John Deere 6090 9.0L engine rebuild in 850J part 2
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- Опубліковано 12 вер 2024
- This is the the second video of a 2 part series so be sure to check the first one out of the engine removal and tear down. This was a 900 hour engine that got dusted due to no outer or filter and loose intake hose. Be sure to stay tuned because we have some big plans with this machine with another popular UA-camr in southern Indiana.
Guess who it is in the comments below!
ccsurplus.com
Know just the place to give this thing a test run 😁
Hopefully he doesn’t break it lol
@@C_CEQUIPMENT I think he did! Call him the bus man. Lol he unintentionally threw you under the bus. You handled it quite well.
I’d like to see little man driving this one
Exactly Mike! Hope you enjoy the company!
@@C_CEQUIPMENT just keep Captain Cleeman off it
DP he recommended his audience to come over and watch that’s why I’m here great videos part one& two. Keep up the great work glad you guys worked out the differences awesome job by both parties Ps Worth subscribing to. 👍
I really do hope that you and Dirt Perfect “Mike” can finish clearing the air. I know your both trying. I’m pretty sure you are both ready to see this behind you. It is crazy how social media can keep feeding the beast of misunderstanding until it chokes both parties. Anything good that might come from it is buried so far underneath a pile of crap that it get lost. Good luck and I’ll continue watching both channels 👍🤙
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We have some videos to come of both of us together!
This is the only social media that I follow so I'm positive that I didn't see the worst of it, anD have no intentions of looking forward to it. I don't know anyone involved, have zero bias, anD usually pickup on what isn't being said anD how things are said. I see no reason for me to not believe that each understands where the other was coming from anD that they probably have more respect for each other, anD a better working relationship, than before all of the blowhards spouted off with some need to soil someone else's laundry before running it up the town flagpole and hanging the rest in the church's front lawn.
yes, the current fad of leaving the "d" out of "and" is a pet-peeve
I have so much respect how you work things out and this channel has benefited from the bus man situation with you. Very impressed with maturity level both sides. I would not have started watching you had not been for the bus man.
Excellent Video ... have to say that I appreciate your CLEAN workshop ... in my 50 years of industry experience I have found that the neatness of a workplace relates to the quality and accuracy of the work that gets output ... your place is OUTSTANDING !!
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How accurate. I've seen one on FB whose shop is a total crap-hole. Of course, he will never change, so I decided to leave him entirely to his own vortex.
I'll go over to dirt perfects channel and watch the shake down. I've already watched it he he he. I love this content keep it coming your doing a great job and thanks for sharing 👍
This is a totally different machine than what dp has
But keep watching it’s gonna get fun
Love the clean assembly environment and the attention to detail. If I needed work done I know exactly where I’d go!
Yea nice shop environment for rebuilding an engine but I’m not seeing any assembly lube being used there’s no way you want to start that thing dry? Those crank bearing should have all been coated with assembly lube.
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They were coated with oil and started within a couple of days so the long-term protection and stickiness of assembly lube isn't required. It wouldn't hurt to use asslube but I certainly wouldn't stop screwing it together if I didn't have any. There's some stuff I'd do different if I had the time and money but their work looks to be plenty up-to-par; I'd have no problem running it out the door and standing behind it if it were my shop (my come-back rate/ratio was well into "less" range, beyond the ideal balance rate(s).
Torque to yield requires a special lubricant to be installed on threads and the head of the bolts to properly stretch each bolt which wasn't done.
Rolling them bearings in sure did remove material from the back of bearings. Hope it didn't get into oil galleys. Goodluck with that build.
I really like what you're doing! I found out about your channel watching DP. He seems like a pretty str8 guy! I never thought that you or your company intentionally tried to get something over on anyone! There's WAY TOO MUCH at stake these days! With social media and crazy fuck nutts people (and it's gettin worse every day) thinking the world owes them something and those people can have a negative impact on your business. I love the way you are looking for content people want to see. Any chance you get BIG iron moving dirt or houses with BIG HP, show it off! The bigger the machine, the more people want to watch it.
I hope you hang in there! It's not easy but what your business does is unique! All kinds of machinery, especially the military stuff, people don't get to see that. You have a extremely nice shop, lots of inventory and that didn't happen by accident!
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Chris Thomas
Thanks for the positive input
And yes I started from basically nothing 15 years ago
We strive to keep our customers happy and we have many repeats because of it.
Stayed tuned because we have plenty more to come
yep what you said lol
Same feelings here.. you guys are doing it right, customer service and ethics👍
These big equipment repair vids are the bomb! I am so fascinated by the size and complexity of these less than nimble machines. Thanks for the content and sharing!
Cannot wait for this thing to be in action! Pushing lots of Dirt will be a Perfect test! Great Job 👏 thanks for sharing!
Watching you and. Kevan working together brings so many memories of a much younger me, I'm 75 and it's a joy Watching. Thank you
Using some shouldered bolts with the heads cut off gives you some location for gaskets and guides for assembling components. You can taper the heads and cut a cross slot for removal with a screw driver. One you’ve made a few and used them you wonder why you had not done it years ago.
Has to be DP since he has bought one 850j from you. I enjoy watching you rebuild the engines. What a pleasure it would be to actually be there and work on this equipment. Your guys are blessed to work for you. Nice job
I'm here because DP recommended your channel I'm very glad he did I love watching the work you do.👍👍🇬🇧
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C&C Equipment +: Another excellent & well-made video. _Reasonably complete_ explanation of rebuild procedures for the 6090 diesel engine. Surprised to see that you had to refer to the factory books for torque sequencing of the head bolts! Would'a thought you'd have those *_mesmerized_* by now, given all the diesel engines of this type that have run thru your shop, but guess that's asking a bit much?!? It did start right up, tho'. So, despite the oily fingerprints in the factory book, would appear you know what you're doing! 👏👏👏
Once again, this video's quality earns it the _YT_ 'thumbs-up' "reward!" Who knew!?!
I started watching when DP had some issues. You stood by him and made it right. I am now a sub. to your channel. I am hooked pole, line, and sinker. Your videos are great. Not a mechanic or operator. I drove an old Ford tractor for about 500 yards. What a ride! I have liked tractors since that time.
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I'll tell you a hack I learned a long time ago. Take 1 of your old head bolts cut the head off and grind a screwdriver slot where the head was. Use this as guide bolts for the head. I learned that while doing a in frame on a 671 Detroit. They used rubber O rings and steel rings for the head gasket. Great video.
Yes that is and I have done that before especially on heads with no lone up dowels
I been into those old 2 stroke Detroit’s a few times also
Such a simple generic engine
Nothing like the feeling of firing up a nice running engine. Then the follow up any leaks, oil coolant, what’s she like when warm then first test then break in. Phew done good. Got to check everything if it can catch ya it will. Love the challenge good job.
I'd suggest the small investment in a gantry crane. Save hours on the forklift, but also make it possible to do jobs safely with fewer hands. Get the largest+tallest that fits into your shop, even if you have to assemble it inside. But it probably only needs winch capacity to lift an engine, or an accessory, not a vehicle.
I bet you are going to Dirt Perfect's place. Mike is a great guy, he treats everybody like he would like to be treated. I think he would loose a million dollars on a deal before he would lie to them. A good family man also. Looks like you'll did a great and professional job on the
850J. I was in the US Army motor pool for a while, they don't take care of anything like a business man or an individual would because it belongs to Uncle Sam and no one is held responsible for tearing up anything. Tell Mike that I said hello from Bangs, Texas.
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I for one would like to this operation completely thru start to finish. There is nothing boring about any of this. People need to see this to understand the labor expense involved in the process. Even if it takes 6 videos.
Thanks for the info, and yes it takes allot of time to do this
This is the tractor , when Kevin came work for C&C Equipment, cool😊
Hey I was a JAG lawyer in the Army we do some pretty amazing things! Line or regular units are not qualified to tear down engines like this, they usually go to 3rd shop where more qualified people work on them. Someone just didn't know better this and didn't PMCS (PRE MAINTENANCE CHECKS AND SERVICES) correctly and this happened. So low ranking individual
You are not only a good teacher, you are sharp: this rebuild is an advertisment for your Dozer... the future customer has seen the quality of work and has a record of it too.
Good thinking!
we got an engine from ex army van they gave it to the boy s to reman in putting the bearings in they got mixed up on the ends& mains i did not get the bolts out off that one i did get half the money back and a free engine for parts keep up the good work 🤟👌
This video 1 + 2 were great to see , as the engine had serious issues that you showed us. The tear down was good as it showed what to be looking for . Then when it was examined after the suspected parts were show & explained (piston ring cap) high gloss cylinders sleeves we ARMCHAIR QUARTERBACKS get to see what it was and what it takes to fix. Only thing missing was approx. $$$ to do this deep of a rebuild. Thanks
I have no idea on diesel engines (or any engines really) but I was fascinated by the wet liner that comes with the piston assembled to it. I had no idea that was a thing.
Watching all of you work and seeing the care you give to all your work is impressive. I also have seen how you respond to any problems your equipment might have after you sell it and that is a great tribute to your company. Great instructive video and you make it easy to follow your work. If you let DP break this one in making sure you let him know that you don't mean to actually break it...lol Happy and safe holidays to all at C&C.
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If you don't mind a critique of your engine repair they make an installation lube for end caps and main bearing that last longer on startup. I always use it. I also put a thin layer of grease to hold the oil pan gasket in place on installation of the pan those gaskets can be a royal pain in the you know where. Other than that fine job. You checked all the other boxes. It's been a while sense I worked on army Green. I was a wheel and track mechanic for almost 6 years. Kind of miss doing it
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Have to say since I started watching your channel one thing is evident. You never spare any expense when you set a vehicle or piece of equipment up for sale. It's pretty much brand new when you put it on the lot. Top Notch service!!!
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Injectors sitting in there takes chance of head being laid flat and injector tips smashed or damaged during assembly. Expensive!
I love how you swap out all the consumables for new so you actually know what you have on there in order to be able to guarantee 💯 % quality 👌. It's a very good and high standard to have .
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Hi like your work you do and good explaining of what you do to the machinescheers keep up the good work tom
I would love to see Kevin do some painting. I think everyone enjoys watchin big machinery get painted. Thanks for sharing. 3rd time watching.
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The people that buy your equipment are really getting Nice machines!!! Most shops would jerry rig it and make a sale. This engine is like brand new!!
Great video for any new buyer no questions about condition.
Really enjoyed this one, reminded me of my teen days stripping down Ford engines and rebuilding them with Dad!
You make it all
Look so easy guys great content again!👍
You did a great job on the engine rebuild. You did it the same way I do. We must have learned from the same person. great job.
Love your stuff. Engine and fab work. You treat your people very well!!!
Going to DP’s. Really enjoy your channel. Has a good variety of content.
Great job guys, a brand new machine for half the cost of new, thank you for your videos really enjoy watching.
Dirt Perfect is gonna have 2 850Js in his fleet this year
Hey There, C&C Guys, I Hope This Finds You All Well? 🙏
We like to talk about Government Waste, and this is a prime example!
As far as hours go, this is basically a new machine, but it's been junked out, due to negligence, and abuse, both of which are totally uncalled for!
Clinton, who's your helper on this project, i do approve of his name? (Wayne)
Those engines are made at John Deere's Tractor Works, in Mannheim, Germany, and have been proven in millions of JD Tractors Worldwide!
I hope y'all have a good one!
"Nothing Runs Like A Deere" 🦌 👍 🇺🇲
We want to see it all. All of the time.
Cameron of Lochiel, Scotland 🤘
I think I found the limit of the OTC rotator engine stand when I overhauled a K19 Cummins. That son of a gun was heavy. Luckily I was under a 7.5 ton bridge crane to pick up parts and install engine.
We knew an 18 year old that went in the army and couldn't seem to do anything right even though he was a fun person to be around. Finally sent him to be a tank mechanic which really angered the mechanics. He ended up passing out tools in the tool room. Most of those Army mechanics are top notch but they do get some people they don't really want on occasion.
I remember back years ago car dealerships would tell you to break the engine in before running at highway speeds. Hardly hear of it today.
I like watching all the steps. Let’s see it go back in!
Great video on rebuilding this Deere motor!
you made a comment about the army screwing up and then said i probably shouldn't have said that. i was in the navy air corps and most of my superiors were sharp as a tack but there were those who could have screwed up a one car funeral. your comment in my eyes was justified.
Great show. Can you do a video of the cleanup and painting a dozer? Thanks love all the good info
I've been wanting another dozer since I had to sell mine back in 09. I've watching you for a wile and admire how you check everything over from top to bottom. I'm waiting on that cat 4 lgp or JD 450 / 550 to come along that I can possible buy from you. Please keep up with the videos
Right on
Great progress! When you make it to Derby, perhaps you can pay a surprise visit to Capt. Kleeman and give him a hand with a few things on the 555. He prides himself on DIY, but hopefully would accept some guest work/collaboration.
Great informative video. Cant wait to see that dozer move so dirt.
Another great informative video…you have a knack for this UA-cam content stuff.. keep up the great videos .
letsdig18 is where its going lol. Great video nice to see Kevin put in a cameo, keep up the good work Clint.
Great video,I really enjoy the hands on stuff.And the explanations.Really nice shop also,great job,Gregg.
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Watch D Ps channel all the time. He sent me over here. Enjoy your channel as much. Keep up the good work.
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Howdy I’m just wondering around your channel this one was a excellent learning experience it showed me about sand what it did to the pistons and the oil rings but it didn’t ruin the whole engine and the one piston ring was suppose to only be 15th and you commented it was about 200th and just the inter air cleaner not being there if that was the case sand and dust just about ruined a good machine but you do know your stuff it’s going to be a very good machine after you are done with it 👍😎🇺🇸NY
i love your channel .i glad dp sent us.you do very nice work
Going all the way down to Derby. Awesome job guys
Holyshit, This is a great channel. Keep up the good work guys! Clint seems like a good guy to work for. Stays extremely calm.
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Going to DP’s . Great job love your channel
Fantastic closeups and sequence!!!
I did notice you have what appear to be Perry suspenders. The founder of those is a native of Decatur. The dad and son are quite the inventors. I don't remember what else they have invented, mfg'd, and patented! The closeups on installing the valves really emphasized how well you were working together.
I don't know about CAT's engine assembly (at Mossville, IL and Lafayette, IN) but in Decatur (trucks, tractor/scrapers, and some of the rubber tired loaders) all bolts are to be assembled dry to get the proper torque. "Lubing with anything will allow over-torque. CAT uses only their specification grade 8 bolts that are above standard grade 8 or so we always said.
I would strongly recommend you guys use some ear protection. That very nice "tin drum" you are working in really amplifies the tool and engine noises!!!
Great job, always enjoy seeing the shop at work.....
You are a quality team, you do the job to the best standard I have seen, you never say that's near enough. A pleasure to watch!!!!
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Sounds good. I noticed when you put the head back on you didn't check cylinder liner protrusion. I know on all the diesel engines l have built many year like Cummins and Detroit you had to check cylinder liner protrusion so the head gasket would seal it would be in 100 thousands like.003 .005 thanks for the video
We did for sure
Just wasn’t on video
Might be good to clarify that it is Dawn dish soap so that it doesn't sound like "Don's soap".
Say hello to DP for us.
Good breakdown and reassembly videos.
Michael (from Scotland)
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What a pushing race that was. Newer paint has the advantage!😊
Another great video, you have the skill of keeping the content moving. Again 10 of 10.
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If you have old head bolts you can make long alignment studs out of them. Cut the heads off, then cut a screwdriver slot in the top and use a straight screwdriver to run them out after the head is set on.
For sure
Done that before especially if there is no alignment dowels
That's always so satisfying on start up when all goes well, isn't it?
I like from A TO Z and Z TO A back together
Learned some new things, and surprised by somethings. Enjoy watching your videos.
Surprised you all didn’t pull the crank and vat the block with all the metal that engine had in it. Cleanliness is #1 in engine building.
This is an old video
Stay tuned for video tomorrow
Torque to yield requires a special lubricant to be applied to threads and the head of bolts to be properly torqued.
I did notice the material being removed from the backside of the main bearings as you rolled them in, hopefully that material didn't get into oil galleys. Goodluck with that build
What's the name of the special lube
Detroit Diesel requires a special lube but not every manufacturer does things the same.
Your headed to dirt perfect for the shack down
Hey Clint!! Hope you got that 850 cheap cuz looks like a lot of cash going into it. Have fun at DP's. Maybe you can catch him up lol.
Thanks, we will work it out and yes we will be catching up with him later on so stay tuned
WOULD THAT BE DP NICE BUILD CLINTON!!👍👍👍
From part two to part three you must have got another used engine, but I didn't see any explanation, looks like it just needed a quicky on it, . I like to turn an engine after each bearing instal, I assume this was done, and ah, the sound of the first startup! All the best,
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Your on the wrong part to
This video is over a year old
Going to Dirt Prefect? Impressive build. Thank you.
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Class act! Great job!
Yup watching you drop the motor back in is interesting [it all is actually]. :-)) The "BEEP-BEEP!!!" from the inside the cab shots of you turning on the machine.... really would appreciate the Beeping audio having some music over it or blanked out if at all possible. Dang Beeps drive my dogs mental and I have to admit... they bug me as well. Love the videos other than that :-)
Pistons and liners are graded and come together do not mix them. This caters for production tolerances, a slightly larger piston will go in a slightly loser bore. Mix at your peril.
By the size of the rod bearings look like a fair size crank shaft
Great job on the rebuild. She sounds Great....Great Video..... You heading too Dirt Perfect. And letting Man Behind The Scenes operate it....LOL
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DP is definitely breaking it in
More videos to come on that
Good job looking good
Head bolts should be drip dry lubed but drip dry, if oil pools at the bottom of the thread and an air gun is used you have a hydraulic chamber and the pressure could crack castings. I always wound a bolt to the bottom of the threads with a speed brace (by hand) to make sure threads where clear and all fluids water and oil are gone. Air line nozzle previously used across the top of the hole with rag to get rid of fluids in the thread holes. Shit happens.
Loved this video, very informative . I will be watching your videos as much as I watch Dirt Perfect, great content. Thank you guys.....
Great
Thanks for watching
Turbo oil feed pipes can get carbonised oil in them restricting oil feed to turbo causing turbo failure of new turbo. Unless you are sure new pipes should be installed.
YOU GUYS SURE MADE THAT LOOK EASY ! Good build for Ol DP !
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great video love what you filmed and yes you could have shown the engine going back in ,, also next time can you show adjusting the valves please .. you said wet sleeves ok I under stand that but are some other diesel engines sleeves pressed in ?? I have worked on cars trucks and small engines but never took a diesel apart ,, love to learn ,, thankyou for filming ..
Will do on the valves. The video messed up and was in time lapse and I didn’t catch it. Yes your smaller diesels will have press in sleeves or no sleeves. I should of clarified that. Thanks for watching
@@C_CEQUIPMENT you did good I just want to learn what I can and you do great videos.. seen others do videos .. can't see what there doing camera a football field away from what there doing .. watched a video on a jeep tranny rebuild .. the whole video only seen the outside of the case and there backsides .. your videos show and you explain what you are doing.. that's a great video .. thankyou for doing the videos..
is that on that little duck pond he,s doing 🤣🤣
I agree with you DP you can test it out for Clint
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Down to Dirt Perfect 👌👍 nice of you doing overhaul the simple way then what is out these days
I noticed no sealant on the sump gasket …? I know JD are well made but .. the block is iron the sump is alloy .. they move under heat at a different rate .. I’d have put a wee bit of glue on it but that’s just me ..🤔
I liked your new wash cabinet 👌
You fast forwarded past putting the pan on 180 degrees off. Great move. LOL
Dirt perfect is where you’re gonna break it in
Just catching up on your videos Clint any questions I have would have been answered. Thanks Clint it was an awesome adventure I've never went through the procedure before of rebuilding an engine it was an awesome experience thank you
Glad you enjoyed it
@@C_CEQUIPMENT please keep a lookout for a 100 horsepower skid steer for dirt perfect. Here's hoping with luck you can make it happen
Well I reckon DP has had enough 850J testin so my guess is the big dam project for Letsdig 18