The Lapsed Fan: Dave Meltzer on Starrcade 97

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  • Опубліковано 19 лип 2016
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    As part of The Lapsed Fan wrestling podcast's Starrcade Memorial Tour, the Wrestling Observer's Dave Meltzer weighed in with his recollections of each event. Here, Meltzer discusses Starrcade 1997.
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  • @travismcdonald6576
    @travismcdonald6576 6 років тому +52

    Bischoff was a mark for Hogan and Nash.

  • @Aj6711
    @Aj6711 7 років тому +76

    God WCW had it and blew it

  • @patjames387
    @patjames387 Рік тому +6

    Hogan would never lie.

  • @irieite9666
    @irieite9666 6 років тому +22

    4:10

  • @adub4ever
    @adub4ever 7 років тому +20

    The biggest pro wrestling even from my childhood was Starcade 97. I was 10 years old, and the build up to that PPV was incredible. They spent so much time building the nWo vs Sting angle, but ultimately blew it. They were lucky they had Goldberg or that would've been the end of WCW. Gotta say, back in those days WCW was far far ahead of the WWF. Had they played those storylines out correctly, they would've put WWF out of business.

  • @anthonyaman1488
    @anthonyaman1488 6 років тому +11

    Sting and Savage's WCW careers in a nutshell - Hogan fucked it up.

  • @adamcraig5800
    @adamcraig5800 7 років тому +47

    I read Bischoff's book then made a point to find the match at Starrcade, based upon what Bischoff had said about Sting's physical appearance, and found Bischoff's criticism of Sting being out of shape when he was huge and in-shape were absolutely ridiculous. While I also found Bischoff's criticism of Sting's lack of tan equally as bemusing. He was The Crow character. Since when did the Crow have a tan. Imagine The Undertaker debuting in WWE in the early 90s as the Deadman with a tan. Absurd! Sting was exactly what he was supposed to be, a buffed up version of The Crow. Bischoff's criticism was simply designed to deflect from the fact that Hogan refused to do the job. He wouldn't get out of the way. Thus, he decided (and seemingly behind Bischoff's back) to screw Sting and the business. The result of him ensuring that he remained the top guy inevitably ensured that WCW went down. That was the turning point.

  • @905JimRaynor
    @905JimRaynor 7 років тому +19

    great job outlining all the screwups in WCW at the very end of '97 and throughout '98.

  • @sleazyfellow
    @sleazyfellow 3 роки тому +4

    Sting should of went over clean, only to be screwed over shortly thereafter, and then PPV matches against the nWo until he gets back to Hogan again and then nWo disbands. This was bischoff being hogans ball washer.

  • @MrJonHimself
    @MrJonHimself 2 роки тому +3

    I know im not likely to get an answer here but does anyone know what Jack(the host) is doing these days? Always loved his work here and with Sherdog.

  • @BarbaPamino
    @BarbaPamino 5 років тому +4

    The only faux screw job that would have made sense would be Hogan putting Sting in the Scorpion and Patrick calling it a tap out. Then have Bret Hart come out.

  • @genxtasy9914
    @genxtasy9914 3 роки тому +3

    wait, what happened with Hogan and Bret in Toronto?

  • @WRESTLINGWRITESITSELF

    40YEARS OF WRESTLEMANIA!!!

  • @henrikschmidt3964
    @henrikschmidt3964 3 роки тому +3

    I think calling Sting naive is absolutely fair. He was made to look like such a tool in this match.

  • @johnnyskinwalker4095
    @johnnyskinwalker4095 6 років тому +14

    I thought Sting was pretty buff at Starrcade 97. What was Hogan talking about.

  • @ara1156
    @ara1156 7 років тому +10

    It seems when people talk about the downfall of the nWo angle (and subsequently the WCW as a company), like on the nWo documentaries, they gloss over the Wolfpac angle, and just act as if it sucked. I believe all that was mentioned about the Wolfpac on the WWE documentary was "Ot was kinda like now all of a sudden your little sister wants to be nWo, so you're like oh yea you can be nWo Wolfpac..." To my recollection, the Wolfpac was over with the audience big time, they were the top baby faces, selling a lot of merchandise, getting huge pops. They should have built up that nWo split better into a major final Hollywood vs Wolfpac PPV, ending with Hogan vs Nash, and that would be the end of nWo

  • @412StepUp
    @412StepUp Рік тому +2

    Sting should have tanned more!

  • @markmenning1804
    @markmenning1804 5 років тому +3

    I agree after the nwo died out wcw did not have anything.

  • @justinorel6592
    @justinorel6592 7 років тому +14

    do a shot every time Meltzer says "ya know"

  • @rODIUMuk
    @rODIUMuk 5 років тому +1

    WCW was the greatest