DID HE REALLY EAT PEOPLE? - The case of Robert Maudsley
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- Опубліковано 27 вер 2024
- There are many myths around Robert Maudsley so I have decided to make a video where I will dispel many of them. I will also take you through the crimes he committed and what has become of him in prison. Em x
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I spent a lot of time thinking "Why a budgie? Why not something warm and soft and snuggly like a dog or a cat or even a gerbil or a ferret?" But then I thought about him letting his budgie out of the little birdcage and watching it fly around his plexiglass container and the sense of joy he'd feel in that small moment of giving that budgie some freedom in comparison to the tiny birdcage he was kept in. That's utterly heartbreaking.
Geez that’s so sad 😞
In only 8:50, and read this comment, and this hurts my heart 💔
Cos budgies can be trained to talk,like parrots-he will have someone to talk to x?
@@jaiadixon7918 that’s even more depressing. I thought budgies were like parakeets. They make sounds and whistles but don’t talk. Give that damn man a budgie UK!
I had a parakeet (as we call them, though I don’t know why “budgie” wasn’t good enough) when I was fourteen. We let it fly freely. Beezle was very tame and considered me her mate. She was a true friend and very personable. Sixty-two years later, I still think of her.
For me this is going to be do hard, as I feel nothing but compassion and empathy for this guy.
Breaks my heart, his life should have been oh so very different.
Bob just turned 69, on 26th June , hes been incarcerated for in solitary confinement since 1979.
So fkin wrong. 🤬🤬🤬🤬
It's absolutely heartbreaking 💔 I'd love to have a conversation with him,sad he should never have been incarcerated and given support for his abuse sad
Being catholic, I can only say, 'thank you!' for speaking to the abuse the catholic church has perpetrated on the vulnerable, especially children.
It was/is rife and spans many many decades. Murders and abuse are still coming to light now.
My late Aunty Pat was taken into Nazareth House in Newcastle when she was a toddler as her mother died during WW2. Her siblings, including my father had been evacuated to the country. She never forgot the awful things that were done to her in those formative years and to her dying day, had a complete aversion to even the mere mention of the order of Poor Clares. Scandalous! 😡
I was raised Catholic and after growing up and noticing things outside my small experience in the world, I became so disillusioned with the church and the acts that they have done that I no longer believe in organized religion as a whole.
Even the way they teach children to pray can induce OCD. How well I still remember that mindless, repetitive penance after confession!
I remember a psychiatrist writing about guilt induced mental illness caused by Catholicism.
Here’s the problem I am sick and tired of hearing about what happened 15 years ago 20 years ago 30 years ago 50 years ago in orphanages and care centers. In America in my occupation I have seen many many changes we are not talking even 15 years ago it is much much better so you can pull out all the horror stories from 25 years ago that you want it is not the same today.
Broken child ,broken man.thanks Emma.
Cruel and unusual punishment. Tragic on every level. So much potential lost there.
What potential? He is where he belongs. Think of the poor budgie that would be stuck with this psycho.
I'm glad you are covering him. I was left deeply saddened. I feel he was used and abused by all in life.
The fact that they wouldn't let him have a pet. I stay alone with my dog and even though I live in the suburbs of Cape Town, but I just prefer my dog's company to that of people. When Basil had to be euthanised on the 20th of March, the sudden loneliness made me feel as if I was about to either lose my mind or end my life. I was going to adopt another dog because I'm a bit of an "adopt - don't shop" person when it comes to dogs. But on the 30th of March a very dear friend presented me with a baby Jack Russell.
His name is Eddie and he is nothing like Basil, but every time when I get a new dog I don't compare them to the one who I still miss terribly and whose lifespan is so much shorter than mine. But Eddie is growing into a very handsome little specimen and although he is definitely a handful (having always adopted older rescue dogs, this is my first experience raising a puppy.)
Someone said that raising a puppy also allows one to reparent yourselfand I'm very much aware of the constant weighing of whether I should be strict so that he has good manners and will be welcome where-ever we may go in life, but on the other hand I don't at all enjoy when I have to talk to him in a stern voice. I think I may have erred a bit towards the side of not being strict enough because he is the cheekiest little specimenand although he is fully grown now, his mind and his face is still that of a puppy.
He literally saved my life. To force someone into total solitude is indeed cruel and unusual punishment. I know how lost I felt during those ten days after Basil left and until I was given a tiny little bundle of adorable cuteness.
Me too, my Carlos (little chihuahua) has got me through some hard times, hes my constant, I chat to him right through the day and without that I surely would go mad x
@@nancywade4626 Our fur-babies have amazingly beautiful energy and none of the ulterior motives that people sometimes have. With them, you know without a doubt that what you see is 100% real and from their heart.
Yeah not allowing him to at least have the company of a bird is just so cruel. He just wants someone to talk to, interact with, and possibly just love. I don’t think there’s anything in his background that proves he’s incapable of loving emotions.
Is he Eddie after Martin's dog (Frasier)?
I’m definitely an “adopt, don’t shop” person, but it’s great that you have your Eddie! 💙
I'm an occupational therapist, the occupational deprivation of this man is so disturbing..humans are wired to 'do'....this is torturous..state sanctioned torture in a so called civilised country is shameful and barbaric.
Think about the victims he created first!
@Darcie. huh?
Its absolutely disgusting the way this man has been treated 😪 how many ppl have come out of "lockdown" with mental health issues & we still had access to the world & loved ones so how the fuck this man has dealt with what he's been through is mind blowing 🤯 who ever made these decisions should hang their heads in shame 😔
Yup in no way condone or can really understand why he did the things he did, but this is inhumane. Even if he's beyond redemption and should never be released he shouldn't be treated like an animal that PETA would be protesting about. The fact that he was released to a point in another prison and have someone listen to him only to be thrown back into solitary is horrible. To be honest the death penalty would have been kinder.
Huh? What? When ever he comes out he kills his fellow inmates, why should they reward him? Every prison needs a system for those that go to prison and have nothing to lose. You need a punishment if the punishment isn't enough
He was abused all his life it's absolutely sad and tragic
He only targeted peadophiles
I agree that his treatment is completely at odds with other really dangerous individuals such as Huntley etc
The main reason is the settings where he committed them crimes! A high secure hospital and UK's highest security prison. Besides authorities risking their reputation and the public confidence,...etc.
I gotta say I'm kinda disappointed in Emma cuz this video crystallised lack of clinical experience in high secure psychiatric services and prison structures!
He might have been placed on this wing as it's a VP (vulnerable People) wing. She's obviously oblivious to many facts! Although I agree he could have had less restrictions in terms of access to activities and stuff!
Gotta love how honest Emma is on what she thinks 😂 love her
Totally agree love these posts
I grew up in Ireland, so as soon as Emma got to the word “nuns” , I shuddered. My stepmother and my ex mother in law were raised in childrens homes run by the nuns. You don’t often see them walking around over here in the Uk , but on the odd occasion I see one my stomach clenches up. My stepmother and my ex mum in law went through hell and carried it through their lives . I just can’t see how anyone can come out the other side of growing up in one of those institutions without a skewed view of society and a really poor bunch of coping mechanisms. The sadistic cruelty the nuns were capable of disgusts me. Then to go from that back to a family where abuse is on tap… not ideal foundations for anyone to grow up with .
I’m kind of bias with this one, I feel like he had never been given the right care and support. Even now, the level of care and attention is in inhumane. Isolation from even daylight in 2022 Is definitely not ok. It sickens me. Do I feel sorry for the victims…NO. Robert probably saved a lot of kids mental/ emotional/ physical welfare. Especially where his ex partner was concerned. Up till the 90s paedophilia was rife in London and uk. A lot of wealthy/ protected predators
Robert is a fucking hero he has balls to kill these people which is what we should be doing publicly!
look at tonight's news, BBC Radio 1 DJ allegedly offending 1992-2017, paedophilia is rife still, just waiting for it to come to light. The other high profile offenders only came to light historically. So sickening, and if the news story is to be believed, his body guard was aware if no-one else. How can we protect the children ?
Well said, i fully agree.
Except... sorry but... rife up until the 90s in the uk??? It's still rife, it's even worse now because of the Internet. As you say, the "higher ups" are up to their necks in it. I have some controversial opinions about why they are so involved in it and that reason is definitely not going away.
@@Proudwokemoralist hmm exactly
You entitled clown
CRACKING JOB ON THIS EMMA, I MET BOB'S NEPHEW IN SPEAK IN LIVERPOOL IN THE EARLY 2000S, JUST AFTER THEY REGAINED TOUCH WITH EACH OTHER
As an ex addict I can categorically tell you right now there is no way in how he would have slept the whole night and ate breakfast if he just wanted drug money
This man fascinates me, the psychology of it and him. I feel so much sorrow for him though, despite the crimes he has committed. Thats one person who life has let down, from cradle to grave i guess. I wish I could write to him and say there are people out here that wish him well. I know he has contact with some of his family as there are a few documentaries featuring his family on youtube etc. Thank you Emma
There is a lot of horrific child abuse both domestic (includes position of trust) and stranger.
It was rough time not only for Robert's childhood but for other children in the 1950-60s.
Unpopular opinion. I’ve worked in prison as a nurse. And All I will say is my sympathy meter is incredibly low. I’ve seen the level of manipulation people can go to. I don’t think everyone can be rehabilitated. The prison staff want to go home alive so they will do whatever they have to do to ensure that happens. I’ve just seen and heard so many things in prison…
I agree. I’m not lacking in empathy for him but there’s a responsibility to keep others safe and he proved to be a danger in multiple different environments. I believe this was above and beyond that though. No tv, no mail, and no music? Who is that protecting?
They can’t trust him and ultimately anything they give him has to be seen as a potential weapon. He has shown he will take people hostage, he will kill. I think that giving him therapy should be ok and letting him write letters is fine if they can give them reasonable tools (maybe crayons?). I feel like a bougie would be hard to care for without giving him extra privileges to keep the cage clean and such.
I think your right there, some "people" just don't wanna be rehabilitated
Yeah that makes a lot of sense. No one knows the dangers until they're actually working in that environment with these sorts of people.
@@carasomebody6477 he can read a book. Take your bleeding heart somewhere else.
He did horrible things but... Come on. Let the guy have a pet for his lifelong solitary confinement. I would sign a petition for it. He's paying his years for what he did, but I can't believe it's so inhumane. I'd have asked for that cyanide capsule too
I’d be worried about what he’d do to the pet. I’m an animal lover.
Hi Emma, I love you content, watch it religiously! When you mentioned the nuns, it chimed my memory. My family came from Canada, and attended what are known as Residential Schools. We’ve known for years what nuns and priests did, but Canada has just began to unearth nearly 10,000 children’s graves from these “schools”. These were government-Catholic ran institutions that forcibly separated indigenous children from their parents and used torture to assimilate them into white, settler society. The trauma and cycles stemming from these places amongst survivors is horrendous, and reminded me heavily of the places you described here, although in England. I also believe they’ve found thousands of graves across Ireland also from similar places.
This residential schools show is one of the biggest yet of the many shakedowns the Indians have perpetrated on Canadian taxpayers. These kids died in the residential schools, they were not murdered. To hear some tell it, you would think these kids were victims of homicide. Our idiot Prime Minister has made apologies his primary function, as he is useless for anything else.
And the treatment those indigenous kiddos were subjected to was beyond gruesome. It systematically destroyed them, mind, body and spirit. Thousands of these children, the ones who actually survived, were then released back into the real world. And guess what? These beautiful, spiritual and peaceful indivuals were never the same, not even close.... An entire generation, and then some, were changed forever. So then what happened u ask? Well, these tortured and abused little souls, who grew to b adults and after their release, were expected to just " get on with it." But that didn't happen because, it can't happen when little humans are ripped from a loving home and treated like animals... day after day after day. Subsequently, because of the profound ABUSE they endured, the kids never recovered. Would u? Can u imagine being tortured, beaten and raped ( yes, the boys AND the girls because that would certainly be beneficial) TERRORIZED and THREATENED. They witnessed the deaths of friends and classmates...continuously...for years.
And so, because they suffered so BRUTALLY for way too long and struggled to recover, they continued to suffer. In turn, their children suffered, their grandchildren suffered, their great grandchildren suffered. It's called a cycle. Get it? Can u imagine the level of PTSD?
And most people r barely aware of it. It sickens me. I.L.M.
This one was a powerful one....well done....I really love your take on the cases you cover and your ability to show empathy...such a great quality to have...keep up the amazing work!! I can't wait for the next one!
I’m excited for this one, he knew who he was and what he was capable of and no one listened to him.
I can’t wait. This man I find fascinating. There is so much to this story it will be interesting to see what Emma describes. Maybe this one will need a part two?
@@tazmanianchic9425 Man gets abused, man develops mental illness, man kills people, man gets locked up the rest of his life. I guess you were lucky you got an entire episode.
What does he know? Someone wants to keep him isolated without even being able to send letters.
Whatever he knew, someone wanted to ensure he went totally insane.
He knows something
Sarcasm with empathy perfected by Emma
I really feel sad for Robert, I have seen an read a lot about him what his parents done to him was wicked
I think the "authorities" simply don't want to back down and admit that they have been hugely hypocritical regarding they way they've treated this man as opposed to the way they've treated others who have committed crimes every bit as bad. That is completely shameful on their part. Michael Howard (is he still alive? I don't know) has a lot to answer for too....
Emma, I love your psychological ‘ crime and consistency’ it genuinely is very effective when persuading people to subscribe. Everyone loves consistency!
You’re one of the only UA-camrs who give a genuine , in depth summarisation on these cases
I also love your humanity, empathy and T shirts
I’m still half scared to death if i watch these at night!
Thank you!
Just love this take on him Emma I feel sorry for him to be honest trapped for the rest of his life
Solitary Confinment for most of your life
What the hell! Not disputing his dangerousness but why on earth can't authorities come up with a more humane creative response
And locked up most of his young life with the nuns then the year he was with his dad locked up for 6 months beaten six times a day with weapons and raped my god xxx
Because some people dont deserve to be treated with humanity
@@colettegibson6516 I fully agree but the legal system itself needs to see a paradigm shit in the way in which it functions. Courts should be chambers of truth seeking, instead they're playgrounds for judges and barristers who care only to display their scholarship and erudition in a ridiculous legal system, spinning the facts of a situation to fit their own narrative, irrespective of the truth. Soundbites and legal technicalities should not be the determining factor as to what sways a jury. I believe Natural Law should take precedence, especially considering the labyrinthian system of bureaucracy currently in place. I dont trust the current system to not wrongfully convict innocents.
While I do agree with the death penalty for certain cases( usually involving children) and I understand and respect that the UK doesn't have the it but I honestly feel like this is worse.
It is cruel and unusual punishment indeed. I'm pretty sure he is the only prisoner being kept in these conditions in this country and he's one too many.
@@WakeyWakeyEggsandBakey absolutely cruel and unusual.
It IS worse, 😢 I get he’s dangerous but really? This? This is the solution. Ironically, as Hannibal Lecter said “Half measures are the curse of it, any rational society will either kill me or put me to some use”
Can’t bloody wait for 7pm. I look forward to your videos every week and even base my bath nights around them 💕 love you so much please NEVER stop x
If there's Heaven I hope he gets there. I don't dismiss or approve of his crimes but it sounds like people in this world never gave him even a chance. Whilst treated him utterly inhumanely. I wonder how he's managed to survive, where did he find the will to live (before he got a tv, Music and PS2) , instead of starting himself to death? I mean, I know it's a horrible way to die but to me would seem better than decades of loneliness and boredom.
I can’t wait for this case Em, I’ve heard about Maudsley as I live not to far but I can’t find any documentaries on him so I can’t wait for your deep dives again 👏🏻🙌🏻
Robert mentioned his life was like a reflection of the film "Murder in the First".
There are a lot of comparisons.
Heartbreaking to watch but also gives a real insight, if that is how he views his own life. X
Oh I've been hoping you'd do this case for a long while now, looking forward to it
All of your stories are harrowing don't get me wrong but I held off watching this one as from what I heard of the prolonged torture he goes through chills me to the core. Begging for a bird and having a speech impediment...He did do terrible things and you're telling has made me rethink a lot of things. Had no idea he attacked peopled with rapists and pedophiles! That changes a lot of things in my mind but not that he doesn't deserve basic human rights. Thank you so much for telling his story. More people need to know!
Also absolutely chuffed you are going to cover Ian Watkins. I think you will do this story justice more than anything I've seen.
Thank you so much for your channel. Always my number one to listen to as I'm pottering around! 💖
Totally agree with you Ann, this story needs to be told!
Also, totally agree about Watkins, I’ve commented before that I’d love to see Emma deep dive into that case! He’s a despicable excuse of a man! And as for those women who enabled his sick fantasies! I have no words!!! 🤬
They have left him alone for so long, this is so sad. I know he has done horrible things, but no human should be treated this way. Disgusting.
He's not a baby
It’s the fact that the authorities were exposed to being really quite useless. My take, is that someone from the top was somehow connected to him when he was a rent boy.😉
My Father was a prison officer and had to deal with RM. One of the scariest men he has ever met.
Damn, I´m sure your dad had to deal with a lot of very dangerous men. Is there any anecdote you can share with us about your dad experience with Robert?
"Give him a budgy!" 😂 I agree!!!
Hi Emma. Thanks for all your work and commitment to putting out brilliant content.
Coming from Speke I’m not surprised… and before I get jumped I live in south Speke so i know, I also went to a school run by nuns viscous monsters, I felt bad for maudsley
If we want to create a society of compassion, we must act with compassion. The fact that I reflect on this man’s entire life, from his young childhood through his entire life, and feel pain in my heart for him, is a GOOD thing. I know the type of society I want to live in. This man never had a chance to be a sane and normal healthy human being. He is a danger to society and a danger to cell mates. But the description of his incarceration does not feel okay. Not at all.
Edit: Why can’t they give him a budgie? WTF?
It’s another interesting one 🎥🎥🎥
Very interesting, and in my opinion, very sad. Really looking forward to this one, thanks guys, as always 👏
This is so horrible what a horrible life this man has had. He's an old man now they need to give him a chance of freedom
Why?
@@itsacarolbthing5221 because he's been in solitary all of his life and others who have done the same at least get into general prison population or even released
@@Ravensandcrows2086 I see. Thank you for taking the time to explain! X
@@itsacarolbthing5221 no worries🌟
The horrific irony of this case is the authorities probably thought it would not be fair on the budgie to be caged without natural light. Roberts case has bothered me for many years and is a total failure by subsequent Home Secretaries to at least review his case on a regular basis. I am absolutely sure they could have found a place for Robert that not only recognized his basic needs but also kept the general prison population safe. He has been treated like a street dog since the day he was born. Shame.
The treatment of this man for decades, is disgraceful !
Thank you Emma,.... That is a dreadful situation for any living creature to go through.
Maybe if more criminals were treated as he is, there would be less of them.
I worked as an officer at a max security prison, and you definitely hit on something when you suggested his treatment might, in part, be related to the murders he's committed while _inside_ prison. Institutions like this do not like the look of such things happening on their time, and under their authority, and will punish inmates accordingly, if they feel like their precious institution is being made a fool of. I've seen it happen many times.
I know we have a lot of pet owners and animal lovers on here but I'm sure you would not treat them like this, however my mind does wander to what we have done to animals in zoo's. ( the isolation the lack of interaction) did make them very depressed and volatile. Just saying "is it just me" thinking this........?
I knew a man years ago who served a year inside for theft and admitted that he was let out with hundreds of theft tips from other offenders
Oh! I loved him in “Who is Killing the Great Chefs of Europe”!…What’s that ?…That’s actually Robert Morley?…OK, Nevermind 🙃
Bleeding hearts here...... try seeing what this monster has done and then see how you think about him.
This entire story is tragic. So many failures for so long.
I forgot about him but it should be good because I think there is more to him than meets the eye. I would also like to see Ivan Millat done, as well as a link to his great nephew (I think) who also killed when he was young.
I can’t believe the sympathy for this man who was a serial killer, including a child! He’s a monster.
He hasn't killed a child. You've got the wrong man again 😅
I work in the CJS, I have worked in prisons and in the community as a PO. Without going into too much detail (it would be longer than a dissertation) the CJS is broken. New to your channel and loving it.
I dunno man, I think he would just have an off day and kill that poor budgie... can you imagine being that poor bird, "Hey Pete here's your new daddy, it's Robert frickin Maudsley, he has a habit of waking up one day and killing a bunch of people, sleep tiiiight".
Well what should the authorities do about this guy? Cause when they let him out, he killed someone. He can’t be trusted around other people.
Another fascinating deep dive Emma, I always look forward to watching your videos. So much empathy and mind blowing attention to detail 😀 A real long shot.. but perhaps you could look into the British serial killer Neville Heath! I was told a story by my gran that when she was in her teens she was on a train home I think from London to Southampton and a very charming man joined her in the train compartment and they got chatting. This man very conveniently was going in the same direction as her once off the train and invited her to share a taxi with him, she agreed. When she arrived at Southampton, her father was unexpected at the station platform to greet her off the train and took her home, the man quickly scarpered. A few weeks later, she saw this man’s face in the newspaper. It was Neville Heath and he had been sentenced to death for murdering two young women. I can’t corroborate this but I trust my gran’s story! Quite literally a ‘sliding doors’ moment! As I may not have existed to write this comment if my gran’s father wasn’t there and she got into a taxi with that man! Anyway sorry for the essay and keep up the good work 😀
Wow! How scary 😳
Even if they won't treat or reform him they shouldn't be torturing him. At least letting him study and have hobbies. Also as a survivour of abuse as a child, I know that if I was locked up alone like that all I'd have was my thoughts and mental illness.
Hold tight. This is going to mess with our emotions people. 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
I feel bad for him I understand he couldn't be in the general population but to build an entire room for him then to deny him things that would make it bearable just seems cruel. Just because he upset the prison guards feelings? They would have come across a lot better if they treated him with a bit of decency. I think he is one of those psychopaths that's made not born.
I think you have to have the seed in your mind so to speak but the abuse he experienced allowed it to grow. If he had grown up with a normal childhood maybe he would have just been a bit troubled.
He would be a sociopath then...psychopaths are born that way, sociopaths are made from their environment.
Possibly. We'll never know. I'm not really sure either just my thoughts.
However if the environment wasn't there to create the monster how could be have been one?
If sociopaths are made and psychopaths are born... I don't know if I'm explaining myself correctly. Not really sure how else to word it.
According to a German criminal psychologist whose work I have followed for many years, even organized serial killers do not necessarily have an above-average IQ. However, they often have a high EQ - that's how they are able to manipulate people so well.
My stepfather was brought up in a home run by nuns in Ireland, he told me that they beat the crap out of him!
when a dogs rabid or a danger u either put it down or put it away. no amount of horrific childhood abuse excuses his behavior. what i don’t understand is why he seems to be the only prisoner with such heavy restrictions?
Hi Emma, you're my favorite true crime site. Your consistanty is appreciated. Keep it up!! You're gorgeous BTW, and your nose looks fine. Much love from New Zealand.
As far as I'm concerned, he killed those people & didn't think of their families. They are trapped in their own lives with their memories that haunt them. It's inhumane that he killed those men. I have no sympathy for him.
I don’t think it’s about sympathy for Maudsley or not. Someone has to uphold humanity and justice. It has to be us / the state. We should be better than this. Otherwise we just descend to his level.
Omg this case 😮 this man did wrong and I feel so sorry for the people and the families left behind, yes. He should be punished as such. But my goodness, you cannot agree in any way with how this man has been treated? Everyone should be treated equally under the law and this definitely has not been the case here. How sad that he was denied a budgie 😢
Thank you Emma, as always 😘 🫶🏻 👏🏻
Instead of Hannibal the Cannibal, how about we call him Hurderer the Murderer?
I wonder how many counsellors like myself now have a burning desire to work with him. If everyone is honest and I mean really honest, child sex offenders are at the bottom of the barrel and no one gives a shit about them. Just being congruent here. There is so much about this man that was unheard and I feel he was used to make an example of to other inmates to deter them from killing in prison.
How I wish I could work with him and give him what he absolutely bloody deserves as a human. 💔
Please can you cover the Robert Mone story. He has also been in prison for a long time since his first couple of murders but he was commited a lot crimes while inside prison and has been in there for over 50 years im sure.
I went to a catholic primary school in the 80s and the head teacher was a nun and she was the most evil person I’ve met in my life … she got a kick out of humiliating children … her soul was as black as her robe. There’s no way when she died she went to be with Jesus as she believed .. definitely went down below !
Thank you once again Em for this case as ever such great deep dive on each case. I feel really bad on Maudsley the crimes he committed was horrendous but I feel like he should’ve been offered help and maybe this wouldn’t have happened. The way he has been treated in prison is awful which wouldn’t help with mental health they have a duty of care to him and he gas been let down for sure by the system which is awful.
He’s a hero I am glad he murdered the pure evil monsters who destroy peoples lives
I understand
I usually hate serial killers have no sympathy for none of them but been locked up in that cage isn't right
And a cat would be a perfect companion for him!! They are super intelligent and can tell when you are depressed and need comfort, I totally ADORE my cat!! As am sure you have noticed!😊❤
He is still locked up ..
I do have empathy for him in how he was treated. I understand the need for him to remain in prison for the rest of his life, i understand that he at least at one point posed a risk to the rest of the prison population, but i dont see why he couldnt be spoken to by guards at least whilst he had his hour exercise, why he couldnt be kept in a normal solitary cell, and why he wasnt receiving usual rights (ie. Stamps, mental health treatment etc). There has been no attempt to rehabilitate, even if he was not safe enough to be released at any point, him being afforded basic human rights and possibly even released into general prison population one day.
So all the paedophiles menawhile have served half the time and are out re offending,this is absolutley so wrong on so many levels !!
"Can i have a budgie?
I promise to love it and not eat it..."
That is just sad... 52:40
Another great one em. Stay safe everyone.
I think I’ve heard of Robert Maudsley briefly. It was nothing like your deep dive into his life. He obviously did horrible things but I don’t believe he was beyond help. I’m not saying he should have ever been released, however, he never should have been put in solitary confinement for all these years. I understand in the very beginning to keep him away from the rest of the prison population. He should have been given therapy sessions and more than likely medication. He could have then been eased back into the prison community. I definitely don’t understand moving him and having him working with someone who was genuinely making progress, only to shut it down without warning and throw him back into the other prison back in solitary confinement. If they think he’s been alone too long to be reintegrated than that’s them admitting they screwed up. I feel the least they can do is let him have a pet, stamps and paper to write to people, a TV, books, music, and other cultural things to help stimulate his mind. I think his punishment falls into cruel and inhumane territory.
Remember the name but not the case. Hi everyone.
I know this is going to be upsetting for me 6 months old that breaks my heart and all of them were there for 9yrs and still neglected abuse is a form of neglect in my eyes and of all people to do it were Nuns
What happened to the other 8 children? Did they suffer the same demise can't imagine what happened to them I hope they had it better in life
In total, there were twelve children, the first four were taken into the care of social services and given back to the parents, who meantime had bred eight more.
I'm not sure about the sister, but Bob's in regular contact with the other two brothers put into care with him. And is close to his nephew, Gavin. Xx
Great video as always Em! Really interesting and your sarcastic sense of humour matches my own perfectly so I love it when you go off on one of your tirades!!!😂
I was only aware of the ‘sensational’ nature of Robert’s crimes - which turned out to be mostly untrue! To treat any prisoner this way is awful!
I’d also love for you to tackle the Ian Watkins case - horrific excuse of a ‘man’!!!
I can’t wait for this! Rightly or wrongly the guy fascinates me.
For the record and before even watching, which is a bit naughty, I don’t think he really ate these people. He despised them too much but the rouse of it made him more scary. Just my opinion though 😁
He didn't. Eat his brain!
The press made that up , to sensationalise and dehumanise him.
The shank used was made of a plastic spoon, to kill the guy, nothing more. But we know the press... love a good 'yarn' don't give a flying fk whether its true and the repercussions it may have on whomever involved.
It was found lodged in his brain via his ear. Hence his nickname 'Spoons' was given for awhile!
Our Mr.Maudsley is no cannibal. Xx
I've been waiting for this one! I watched Eleanor cover it and was so so hoping you would eventually!
I know it's wrong to say but I've been looking forward to Robert maudsley. I know that he's spent most of his prison time (last I heard he's still in Wakefield) in solitary confinement for a very long time
For not just his but everyone else's safety.
I hope you're feeling better em, at the least that you can smile straight, bless you. Xx
No he’s in their for the safety or child molesters lol not the average person you and I lets make that part clear. I would never feel threatened being in a room with Robert because I’m not a pedeophile
In a Perspex cell under ground xxx
I can not believe the treatment of this man. I am disgusted at our system and l believe that someone should be held responsible for this injustice. Maudsley is in the right place , prison. But we have to be better than the perpetrators in our conduct. This is so wrong, and what's more it's now making me feel sorry for him which l probably would not if he was just in the general population and holding his time just as all other prisoners have too.
I know that he did HORRIBLE things, but keeping him in such torturous conditions? Even people like him don’t deserve to be treated that way
People like him? Thats what the people he killed dwarves lol
Yet another sickening story of abuse at the hands of 'family'. I'm stunned by the failings of CPS. I wish I had your faith & belief in heaven & hell. My only comfort is that Elisa is no longer in pain.
Aww you did it Emma! I missed the premiere! Just started watching.
Interesting hearing your take on what happens when one puts like minded and otherwise minded human beings in concrete boxes with bars...
Together.
Against their will.
Where things are governed by the legitimate monopoly on violence, like systemically governed by it.
Like that concept,
Or that power structure doesn’t come from the people who wouldn’t be there if they had a choice, does it?
If they had a choice they wouldn’t be there to participate and it would not be able to exist, surely?
It comes from how it’s run from the top down, inside and out.
Seems like a recipe for something that would make some damn good true crime content anyway...
Definitely learned a few things from you and this episode about this human being and his life.
Hella screwed up.
I do think that the prison system has broken him beyond the point.
The point of not even knowing how to come back from it.
The establishment did that to him.
And then as he said, was “swept under the carpet”. The issue being him. Being housed with the focus of his hatred?
I think it was important that you did this video.
I am not a fan of secret places...
With over 14+ doors to get to...
And places some people never knew about or thought existed.
I just think that secrecy breeds vice in a lot of cases?
Then, after doing what they did and the damages done... his actions and reactions and their actions and reactions...
Then using that as a reason to sustain the cruel and unusual punishment?
No pets allowed :s
I am struggling.
Someone’s dug a really stupid hole here or set a precedent and out did themselves in how far out they went, now no one knows the way back, or if there even is one anymore.
Sad. A. Really sad tale of savagery beyond comprehension.
I would argue that there is a point, where you have completely broken or beaten an animal. Or a man.
It’s mind and spirit, that it will literally just f**king bite the s**t out of you and attack you and anything that looks like you.
Which oddly would actually be just a completely natural reaction, if you had done that to another living creature.
Hella messed up psychology, on the fact he has had to maintain his sanity as best as he can.
And then considering the manner that it could even be vaguely possible given everything that’s happened?
You can only imagine.
To the point of “yeah I wouldn’t let me out either.”
I don’t think Robert ever really stood a chance within the environment he found himself in. Thanks for bringing some light to this.
A beautifully painted, dark and twisted tale of bad to worse ad infinitum, appreciate your take on it Emma.
Thanks!
I think that people also need to know that...
The establishment has a subterranean glass coffin.
That is in use...
And like who knows how many more of these exist? I don’t.
A place where they have kept someone for that long... 40+ years?!
Had you heard of him before this?
And in solitary confinement, no way to die or way out....
And that it is just basically prejudice for the most part?
Like.
That’s the reason this man is in this subterranean glass coffin and not you or anyone you know.
After seeing a documentary about HMP Wakefield in March, I reached out to Bob, asking to become penpals. We have been exchanging letters ever since. He is a kindhearted, good-natured, interesting and intelligent man, but tells the most dreadful jokes!
If you were a barber, would you want to go in and cut his hair? No way! And he didn't treat his victims humanly, why should he be treated humanly? You kill people so brutally, you give up some privileges. People are afraid to be around you. He's only in solitary confinement because he is a crazy cold blooded killer. I don't feel bad for him and for God's sake, don't give him a pet!
My friend went to a Catholic schools in Ireland and the nuns used to beat the children just at general school, so I wonder what they did to orphans. Apparently Mother Theresa of Calcutta was cruel too.....
I hope they study his brain after all these years of social neglect to help give better insight into how solitary confinement physically affect prisoners
It is utterly inhumane what the authorities have done to Robert Maudsley.
Starting with the evil catholic nuns.