I don't think Mavuika is the problem per se, I think she was always going to be a main dps as the archon of the nation of war. The real question is why despite knowing this, they still released so damn many pyro main dps units in the past already. Like they could've just made Arle or Lyney off-fielders instead and this whole problem wouldn't have existed.
I mean, as the archon of the nation of war, she could have, instead, been a support. A war isnt won by a single individual but by an army, so someone who can strengthen the army would be more valued than what is just a strong fighter. That is half the reason why she was expected to be a sub-dps, would make sense thematically(and to replace the dominion of xiangling but we can leave that aside for now).
@@agp4048 that would’ve made so much more since, like war wise. A war, just as it isn’t won by one person, isn’t won by brute force(unless you break the Geneva Convention and use nuclear options), it’s won by strategy.
She wouldn't be underwhelming If the pyro element didn't had 69 on-field DPS or her full strength/kit wasn't locked behind another premium 5* character or Constellation. I think this is a really bad and greedy money grabbing move from hoyoverse. Although being said that I truly believe that her banner sell would go crazy after her release.
FOR REAL. I am still going to pull for mavuika and Citlali because I like both of their characters but I’m still kinda disappointed in hoyo for trying to do a money grab.
Idk. With Citlali running right next to her, I wouldnt be surprised if she sold less. She will sell less than Furina regardless, but I think she might sell less than Nahida.
Mavuika isn't a bad character but she is nothing unique as a support. The 4 pc scroll cannot be considered as mavuika's capability as even the pyro traveler can use that. So compared to recent archons like furina and nahida she doesn't bring anything unique to the table. As a support she on her own is just a B+ for me.
This is also what I'm thinking. We have PMC and XL without spending potentially 150 wishes, too. Not to mention playing her as a support means we are wasting her core strength as a main dps, which is quite a bit stronger than other main dps she can support. So why switching to your main dps when she can deal more dmg being the on fielder 😂
@@kadatheklund2904 well, usually they bring something unique to the table to. Kazuha is obvious, he does what the artifact set does on his own. Xianyun makes characters plunge, and heals. The other 5 star Anemo characters are outdated or don’t use vv, or are 4 stars. Jean isn’t anything special, Venti is outdated af, Chasca, Xiao, and Wanderer don’t use it. Other VV characters are 4 stars. So, yeah, she isn’t anything special.
All I know is that this is the first time I'm not immediately pulling for the archon. She doesn't provide much new for me, and the supportive aspect can be done via Pyro MC (although worst, at least they are free). I'll wait to see how the community ends up utilizing her on whether I pull before her banner ends, or maybe even skipping to see if anything new happens s by the time she reruns. Definitely more interested in Citlali, especially if they Cryo jail her for over a year
They wont, all previous cryo 5 stars were main dps except for shenhe who is cryo team only unit. Citlali isnt for cryo but for meta vaporize and future melt teams
Her value as a dps is low cause there are so many pyro onfielders and they can release more. Her value as a support is tied to scroll, if they release another natlan pyro unit she is again replacable
"skill duration being shorter than cooldown isn't a bad thing" yes, but Ei can give Electro off-field for over double the time, and Furina does the same with her Hydro summons. Do we need to put Nahida sigil as well? I am more interested on Citlali, because "Pyro Claymore main DPS" is not appealing anymore.
Now that you mention it, gaming and diluc are very usable main-dps pyro claymores, add there dehya which can be used as a decent support for kinich, remove xinyan for being useless and here we go. Complete over-saturation, wanted a reason to pull for her since she was cool, but im probably going for citlali now since i have plenty of dps characters myself
If the application lasted longer, there would be complications, mualani wouldnt be able to get a xilonen crystalize, wriothesley wouldnt be able to get a cryo swirl/cinder city etc..., because pyro is the most intrusive element it actually works out in her favor in many scenarios, only dpss with a long dps window suffer, but those are very few and far apart and you wouldnt use Mav with them anyway. There is no denying that she is very strong as an on field and off field, for example in Mualani teams she is like a 20% dps increase clorinde aswell, just take a look at a little tc, no point in being so arrogant about something you dont know alot about
@@mihailosekulic7957 Her C1 increases her skill uptime to 18s... and Mualani has no problem removing the pyro aura because Hydro is the strongside reaction. This is only an issue for Melt teams with Xilonen. The only reason she's a "20% dps increase" in Mualani teams is because she enables faster rotations. But then you ignore that she has a severe defect with Sucrose, one of Mualani's best teammates.. so it's not even a smooth upgrade over Xiangling.
Also like, the whole point of her skill is that it has two versions. "What if her off-field pyro app lasted too long and messed up your buffs?" Man, that does sound rough, lucky i can literally turn it off whenever i want by swapping to her and pressing e.
Looking at Mavuika it's clear they forgot that she's an Archon (who are known to be OP supports) when they were developing her kit and when they realized that they decided to just slap the off-field aspect for her E last minute so that she has something that can "support" her teammates.
3:33 ...What 😭 Needing a healer is not the same as NEEDING A SPECIFIC CHARACTER FROM A SPECIFIC REGION 😭 And Nahida one... Girl that's like saying if you bring Raiden into a team, the team is based around Electro reactions. That's not a restriction 7:30 And this is fair, she doesn't meet the requirements. Her kit should be focused more on supporting the teams that need off filed Pyro application, buffing base stats like how Bennett does. She doesn't do enough for an archon, just like how Ei, Zhongli and Venti don't do enough 8:25 yes it is the case. Kinich and Mualani can use Pyro Traveler or Xiangling NO PROBLEM. And Chasca would way rather have Bennett because what Bennett gives her is more valuable. 8:32 As a character who NEEDS characters from her own region to gain her burst SHE SHOULD be having better synergy with them.
@@JayDamaso78That won't work well since chasca wants to have multiple elements in her team. Plus chasca gains more value with citlali if I'm being honest
What? Mavuika needs no specific character, any Natlan one will do. Meanwhile non-C6 Furina is glued to teamwide healers by default, so they're about equal. Also, ZL rocks and Raiden also used to before the Fontaine powercreep, she's still ok tho.
I don't think you understand english, or then you weren't listening to what he said. "Needing a healer is not the same as NEEDING A SPECIFIC CHARACTER FROM A SPECIFIC REGION 😭" whatever you said here is completely irrelevant. He said that you need a healer for Furina to gain fanfare points, otherwise you can't buff your team. He also said that Nahida needs a team that revolves around Dendro reactions, because she, specifically, buffs dendro reactions, like, ALOT. I don't know what Raiden had to do with that part, since she's purely a main DPS and one of the best batteries in the game. Also for the last part, you don't know about future Natlan characters yet, they may have excellent synergy with her. Pretty sure she'll work just fine with some, like Xilonen, maybe even Kinich depending on the teammates. I don't know if you were trying to be cool while writing this comment by "disagreeing with the youtuber" but you didn't make the cut. Also, why were you crying in the beginning of the comment?
The guy who designed Mavuika's kit is the same as the one who designed Dehya's kit ! Role consolidation that works on paper but who are underwhelming in one of those roles ! Dehya being a bad DPS and Mavuika's supportive role not being really great !
@zard2341 she's sure a sidegrade to Xiangling but not a sidegrade to Bennett, which is the thing most of us players have expected since Circle Impact is such an outdated mechanic and that it kills diversity to play 2 ATK-scaling DPS in abyss !
@zard2341 I said she is good as a DPS but her off-field/support role has been butched ! Hoyo clearly put it all in her DPS role, which is a shame since Arlecchino is basically powercrept now ! But guess that Genshin is taking the same direction as HSR !
Sadly they are fond of 'On-field Mommy DPS's'. They are probably happy for DPS Archon so long as she's badass (A.KA Rides a bike) and can deal huge damage. For them it's an automatic swipe to C6
They only changed it because Mihoyo had invested all their money into GI and couldn't risk people leaving their game at that point or they would go bankrupt. Sadly, they have F. you money now and don't need to listen to fans criticisms given that they will just filter into another mihoyo game (ZZZ, HSR). This is why their customer service is poor and they often do not listen to fan feedbacks or criticisms these days.
I don't know if people think Mavuika is bad or just so easily replaceable without much loss and still needs a natlan teamate to unlock her sub dps potential (burst), without, she doesn't improve things to the point of sacrificing so many primos. Let's see what upcoming characters can bring.Thx for the video.
She is biggest disappointment for me so far. I was planning to c2 her, but after her kit leakes she is the easiest skip for me. Just another pyro dps with heavy restrictions. Hef offield is okish but nothing special. On top of that her gameplay looks terrible. Doing circles with her bike. How did they come up with this? I thought it cant get worse than Chasca, but here we go.
They really dont want to powercreep or even compete with Xiangling. Instead they gave us ANOTHER PYRO dps. No thanks. I got C1 Neuvillette i am fine. I will either get Arle or Clorinde. Also i like pyro traveler i want to use them
Real bruh I already have 2 of the most broken dps (Neuvi and Arle) with their sig and Hoyo suddenly decided that we need another top dps while being an ARCHON 😭 Soo f'in disappointed 😞
that's what irritated me too, the guy said no thx to "ANOTHER PYRO dps" following up with pulling for Arle? Anyway, good luck to everyone with their pulls be they for Neuvi rn, MAVUIKA on New years or Arle/Clorinde mid Jan
My biggest issue is that, compared to the other archons, mavuika is (probably) going to age like milk. When your main job in a team is to deal damage and you access that damage by using the new regional mechanic, you're going to fall out of use if either A) another pyro onfielder with more DPS comes out or B) you stop receiving new natlan supports. B is all but guaranteed to happen at the end of the 5.X cycle and A is looking likely to happen eventually with the direction the game is going in. Furina is a best in slot buffer for nearly every team, nahida is still hands-down the best dendro applier and has good damage to go along with it, and while Zhong and Venti dont perform as well as they used to, they are still each the best at what they do. Raiden is the closest comparison, but even she has better utility in her energy regen and burst dmg buffing, so even though she isn't doing a ton of dmg herself, she can still benefit your team by doing dmg. There is indeed flexibility in making Mav on off fielder or an on-fielder, but that is not at all unique to her (raiden, dehya, ganyu, and ayato can all be used as off-fielders) and most off-fielders can be made to function as decent on-fielders. In fact that may be a part of why she was designed as an off-fielder, because turning her into an on-fielder with c6 bennett would be insanely easy and potent and they couldn't sell the traditional "infusion at c6" style of cons. Edit: it's entirely possible that she remains the highest DPS on-fielder to retain her "archon status" and is balanced by having a limited amount of supports but, at least in my opinion, "highest dps" isnt a strong enough reason to pull her when abyss is clearable with units way worse than her.
She’s less than a 10% increase compared to arlecchino and mavuika is also more expensive since her teams pretty much require Xilonen. While arlecchino is more flexible and has more frontloaded damage.
Shes definitely gonna be great but is pretty underwhelming since she just doesn't offer anything new slight arle upgrade in her premium team but she lacks arles flexibility because of her fighting spirit mechanic, and also being a charged attack dps, this isnt even counting the fact that we have like 10 pyro on field dps already slight xiangling upgrade but is a downgrade to her in some teams because of her slower pyro application with a shorter duration, which means tighter rotations even for teams she would technically be an upgrade to xiangling in
@@shonenhikada9254 are you comparing with them having the same stats, including having 0 Er? Are they with their signature weapon? With their Bis artifact and team? Not only that but Mavuika has sub-dps potencial (a strong one) and Arle has none. Are you taking that into account when comparing their pull value?
I mean is she all that interresting, no, does she completely redefine the meta like nahida or furina, no. But is she still really good as a main dps and support/sub-dps, yes. Pure meta wise she's not a dissapointment. If you really wanted a big meta shake-up, then yes she is
She’s a less than 10% increase compared to arlecchino while also being more expensive and restrictive. Her as a support is clunky and undeserving of the archon title.
bro she replaces half of xiangling teams and none with the true archon (bennet), on top of that she uses bennet instead. how is she better, citlali is better than her
Because she doesn't share the same type of gameplay that other archons offer. Aside from Venti... Zhongli gives out a shield and petrifies Raiden has electro off field with a big weeb slash Nahida connects dendro damages with a significantly boosted support burst Furina applies hydro with a broken support burst With Mavuika, you get a motorcycle and woosh through Natlan. She's not bad, but she just doesn't share the same type of broken gameplay like other archons. If you already have an Arlechinno, Xiangling, and Bennett, you'd have no reason to pull for Mavuika's kit other than collection reasons or you just want a new toy to play with. That said, I'm pulling for her knowing I have a dps Arlechinno and an off pyro support. Hopefully this gave you some insights as to why players are perplexed about her "this already exists" kit.
a direct upgrade of xiangling on like 50% of her team is bad now? truly a yelan vs xinqiu moment lol i don't know why people hate a character that is balanced, i personally don't want one of the best meta character in the game to be fully powercreep by a new character, because if they keep doing that, the game will ended up like HSR (rip seele, blade, jingliu)
@zard2341 they don't hate characters that are balanced, it's just the simp drip marketing and the need to replace a party member with a new toy 🤷♂️🤦♂️ I still tell people they can complete the content with Childe and they look at me like I'm crazy 😒
@@kotaro3018 i'm just weirded out on why people don't want a second xiangling when there is so many team that must use her but feels very bad to play (300+ er requirement) and she actually bring a new team archetype which is a double DPS, her burst deal so much frontloaded damage but quite low window, now she can be paired with character that have the same dps window, a char that is not long enough to be on fielder but long enough to be played as quick swap like navia and yae
As a DPS mavuika needs other Natlan characters to deal dmg. But as a subdps she needs other natlan characters EVEN MORE otherwise she might feel like using xiangling as a solo dps without the fishing spear.
A powercrept DPS that lost place in the meta and will keep losing like all carry DPS, while Mavuika is the archon, buffes and plays as sub DPS, being the best pyro sub dps. Literally absurd to pull for Arlecchino, purely emotional and irrational.
@@gamingtemplar9893 Even though Mavuika may be more powerful than Arlecchino, Arlecchino will still remain a powerful Dps, her numbers are INSANE and she’s extremely easy to build and can be slapped onto any team not to mention that her constellations are crazy. I love both these characters and hopefully I can get arle constellations and Mavuika :>
@@gamingtemplar9893 I agree with you so much. I see so many people saying they're skipping Mavuika for Arlecchino and it's just so astounding to me since Mavuika has so much more versitality as a dps, sub-dps, and buffer. Also since Mavuika is not going to be powercrept for a while since she's a recent Archon. She's more future proof than people think.
all the teams where you can use mavuika as an alternative to XL and don't need XL's better pyro app you can just use PMC. so she really is just another pyro DPS and the support stuff isn't worth going for.
This is literally the same cycle with furina back then. Saying she bad coz she need healer & drain hp. Whining is gemshin fandom forte. This community are so predictable.
@@harfi212 yep even tho i was also against the idea of needing z healer i was still gonna pull her regardless same with mavuika people say she will be weaker than neuvilette cuz of teamrestrictions or so but the same happened with diluc hu tao. Hu tao came out and u needed xq to use her people still ended up doing that. Same will happen with neuv
My main problem for Mavuika is that I feel like apart from her damage I can pretty much replace her with traveler as a support. And I have no real incentive to want her as a main dps as I own Lyney and Arlechino and gaming and diluc and dehya and Xiangling and Bennet pretty much every pyro character. I believe as an archon she should have a sense of uniqueness to her. If she was mostly off field centered and only competed with Xiangling and dehya making her feel more important. And she can have 100% percent up time because if she is in wriothesly team she would likely be wearing cinder set to be off field and if she had golden troupe for pure damage you can alter your rotation to use Xilonen after her last application of pyro with wriothesly to make cryo crystallize. But then again I might just be an unhappy critic who just wants “overpowered” characters… Actually if Genshin allows up to save artifact sets to equip fully on characters i can forgive this…
Mavuika not having full uptime on her skill is not a good thing.. you're just regurgitating another yt'er whose name you banned from being mentioned. It's actually a hinderance in every team EXCEPT Wrio / Xilonen.. which is why her C1 increases her skill uptime. So does C1 brick her kit? No, because this "upside" is not an upside at all. The low skill duration screws with so many buff uptimes because Mavuika has to be used right before the main dps. I had to rephrase this comment a dozen times just to get it to post. Are you really that paranoid about people noticing you're just copying what he said? His video already gotten clowned on in the TC community mate.
that is not false advertising in any which way. Is it false advertising for neuvillette to not be a plunge dps just because we saw him jump on tartaglia's head during the first part of fontaine?
@substitutedoll5224 That's not a valid argument that neuvillette scene lasts literally 1 second while Mavuika's fight with the captain lasts several minutes.
@@marcosmartin721so what about raiden then? She doesn’t go into the plane of euthymia. And both Tartaglia and Arlecchino don’t use their boss forms either.
It's a shame her that her biggest value will come for being a DPS. I always prefer supports. Fortunately for me they're releasing pyro traveler and for DPS I'd rather play Arlecchino (love that she has a scythe and gives vampire vibes).
Mavuika sub DPS damage increases with constellations, Xiangling's doesn't. At c6 she has more than 300% damage increase over c0, so if she is better than Xiangling at c0, imagine at c6. At c2 she is already around 60% stronger.
I have a super well invested Hu Tao and Arle both C1R1 idk about so the only reason for me to pull future pyro main dps's lies in either unique play style or I just really like their character desgin but the omega goofy motorcycle animations in a fantasy world setting are just shitt imo same reason why i skipped Chasca and Kinich. And the teams where i would want a Xiangling upgrade she just doesn't work. So i have 0 reason to pull her and i think i'm not alone with this. Xiangling and Onfield-Dps Sidegrade and off looking character desgin. On the other side Citlali (I also don't have really a use case for) is just adorable from her animations and that's why i will pull her. I play since 1.0, can beat any content with eyes closed with 10 different Teams, so yeah I cba about meta or strength.
venti, zhongli, furina, raiden work on any team in the past, present and future. mavuika works exclusively with natland characters, for the next natland patches, enjoy the worst archon for 4 months :)
Because in the storyline her true build of that character is only in storyline mission that's her real build of the character design build for that character
So in other words she’s not an archon, just an overhyped money pit that needs you to buy “another” support character to build up her kit, which is the new HoYo scam now. You have to buy more than one character just to get the other one to perform, such a joke.
Tbh, a character that can deal godly dmg and buff the party with scroll is worth it imo. The potential to just drop her tao skill and go about ur other party members back to Mavuika to burst and do autos/charges is intriguing. Not many characters can do good off and on field dmg after all
The video actually made me worry more. In the main DPS section, I was missing the clarification that she will do at least the same amount of damage as the current top DPS. And in the support section there was always a but for every example. In regards to her design, I am not a fan of the motorcycle because I love to actually see some nice combat animation of the character I saved or spend for. Not a motorcycle driving in circles. Wasted potential unfortunately.
She is weaker than Arle at c0 and c1 and only surpasses her at c2. She is basically team restricted so heavily and still does less damage per rotation.
How I wanted to see her was Bill off the storyline built but able to still able to ride the motorcycle on R2 building but they didn't give a freaking care about the character Sylvester on a piece of s*** move a crappy build
Kit wise yeah.. nothing new except that exploration. Story wise, her character depth is like a cardboard, too perfect yet so thin. And there's the motorcycle problem..
bro i idont knowiff i should pll for neuvi or not or wait for her. cuz heres my problem My team has 3 main dps ( Wanderer, Ayaka, and tignari) I have xiangling, but only c2 i have mona and jean, but not built i have no good artifacts. i have around 30 fragile. but i dont think i can farm her resources and also farm her artifacts i like neuvillette more.
Yeah right, like 20% of the teams who needs pyro subdps wants Xiangling's faster application. Oh, the remaining 80% where Mavuika is better? Pfft who cares, mid archon, miiiid. I don't care if Xiangling's usage rate will spiral down for the whole next year and maybe the next after Mavuika's release, mid archon is still miiiid. 😛
I wanted them to build her like the storyline itself story build her story build of the character design with way better looking Her Moves were badass that's what made me want the character it wasn't a motorcycle
If her C2 added more app to invalidate xiangling I would have gone for it. As she is i might do C0 R1 just because i dont have a pyro dps. And shes the first decent one that her appearance doesn't annoy me.
GUYS I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE!! I WANT MAVUIKA, CITLALI, AND SKIRK. Is that doable if I go all out this patch with 200 pulls and have 40 pity already?
Lets gooo. Its perfectly paced this time. Great info as always. Also looking forward to you covering 5.3 livestream. No English VA is such a letdown T-T
May I would have threw in their ability of her to attack was a dragon with the ultimate because that would have been badass artist Harper built like the storyline her real setup does a real setup is the storyline build
99.99% of people commenting about game design, have no degree or experience in......game design, they are just IDIOTS with an opinion that matters NOTHING. This nonsense needs to stop, it is affecting gaming.
At the end of the day just pull for whoever you guys want! If you guys like the character pull for them. Don’t be so worried about meta just pull for whatever makes you happy. Hope this helps🫡
The character destroys the game in all aspects as the most OP character in the game. A group of brain damaged people with emotional issues for characters, spread hate and misinformation and overreact to slightly bad parts of the kit that are there for balance, because their Arlecchino or group of pixels is being DESTROYED. And some are probably not just trolls, but also, people who hates her for being HOT in all senses. These people are literally a danger for society.
The bill that could have did better on the story build is way better her Mission build was awesome and I skipped over it like it never existed that shows how they don't care about that shows I don't care about the character
And a true God character has raw God power I don't play games to be f****** weak I play games to carry people and help them you don't have the power to carry what's the point playing the game
As a F2P, what should I do: I have enough for 2 pity and I want Mavuika since I like her design and I currently have 0 DPS units(I losted all my 50/50 and I only pulled for supports like nahida, kazuha, etc). Should I go for C2 Mavuika? or C0 Mavuika and C0 Citlali? Or C0 Mavuika, and save for Furina? or C0 Mavuika and wait for C0 Xilonen?
And it's sad they didn't give him enough care about the character that is through stuff together didn't care I like the character I'm just mad they just don't care about the character bus company owner the game the character of being built right
Well, here is the problem. Mavuika is weaker than Xilonen in Natlan. Whoever pulled for Xilonen, already got the Natlan archon. Everyone else is just extras.
She is a main dps or a sub dps she can't be both because of the artefact sets. And there are still no quickswap buttons and save-functions for entire artefact sets so NO thx!
I think you're putting to much credit to her off-field role. As a unit who NEEDS Natlan characters, she SHOULD work better with them. she cant work with Mualani in double Hydro, There is literally no reason to pull for her in Kinich teams when you already have Pyro MC, who does the exact same as her but for free. Then we have Wriothesley who doesn't work that well either since you want to run him with Furina, which Mavuika cant apply enough pyro for her to Vape OR Wriothesley to Melt, making it so she steals most of the reactions, same goes for Childe. Not to mention, this really doesn't bold well for characters IN THE FUTURE after Natlan. No night-soul bursts, means no Burst for Mavuika, meaning her teams will be limited entirely to those in Natlan. Making her long-term value practically non existent (which adds only further to her being a DPS) Also, why are we acting like Mavuika's lack of energy need is so much better than XL's Bennett battery when Mavuika ALSO needs a battery in Xilonen and Citlali. To say this is fine because Furina's also is limited to having a healer and Nahida is limited to Dendro teams also is a major stretch. Furina needing a GENERAL healer is in no way similar to Mavuika needing a SPECIFIC region's characters. Healers outnumber Natlan characters drastically and are ALWAYS going to be added on to, Natlan wont always get new night-soul triggers for them to be on the same level as a healer for Furina. This is what makes Furina such a good unit, her flexibility for future AND past characters. (and as well as her general support buffs) And saying Nahida is limited because of Dendro... Do I really have to say anything here? Dendro is one of the strongest elements in the game, Her 'limiting' her teams is nothing but providing universal support for her element and she does what no other character could do well until she released, which is Dendro app. She works that way, cause thats what her element needs. It'd be different if instead they made her just an EM support, she'd be worse overall because even if you give your teammates 250 EM, they cant really do anything without the dendro app. Mavuika doesn't add anything new to the table with her support mode, all she really has is mediocre pyro app and Cinder City (which once again, Pyro MC has as well.) She's just a waste of an archon in my opinion. And her DPS mode isn't different, just another Pyro DPS that will more than likely get power crept soon anyways.
May I just only want the motorcycle one area to use her super R2 that's the only spot I wanted to be able to use the motorcycle I didn't want it and moves I didn't want to have a motorcycle tacking and moves are ultimate that's so sad they didn't care about the character
She is objectively the single best character in the game best dps really good support really good sub dps amazing exploration especially in natlan the most diverse playstyle you can NA CA Dash trough enemies plunge attack anything
-Amazing exploration only in natlan. It feels like crap outside natlan and at C0. -Her support capabilities and sub dps roles are mid and not worth primo gems -She is weaker than arle at c0 despite team restrictions -She is going to age like milk and is heavily p2w. Not worth it.
@@shonenhikada9254 - even outside natlan she ranges from best to third best in all aspects of exploaration -as a support she gives more damage bonus frontloaded than furina while doing more sub dps than her -c0 mav in her best team is 10% above c0 arle across the board so don't throw around basless stuff - the last part is also baseless and laughable
Hoyoverse is just most likely making her underwhelming at the moment so that people would want neuvillete and/or zhongli, then theyd make her incredible when the banner is almost done (hoping) so that people would end up spending to also get mavuika.
Unfortunately not. Her kit is finalized. Last time a kit was changed after being finalized was zhongli and thats cause the CN community basically rebelled against hoyo
will kachina work good with mavuika? i started a month ago so i practically have no characters and now i don’t know what to pull because i have no natlan characters for mavuika. should i maybe go for neuvi?
To me, Mavuika has 4 unique things going for her: -Not relying on energy means more offensive stats, so in reality, Mama is hitting like a SuperNova. The theory crafting calcs don't even account for the extra damage she'll be doing. -Highest burst damage, single-number-hit in the game .That means you don't miss out even if you only play her off-field + burst. -Guaranteed damage bonus buff at the START of Floor 1 in the Abyss. Speed Runners Dream. -With the Cinder City buff and 200 Fighting Spirit, she can give the active character a maximum of 90% Damage bonus. That's even Higher than Furina. True it decays very quickly as opposed to builds up quickly, but that's the essence of Pyro; all out attack from the jump. With these 4 things added to her off-field pyro application and damage, she's truly the best off-field and on-field Pyro unit in the game.
-It means fail design because if she doesn't rely on Energy it means she won't synergize well with many past units or possibly future units that don't rely on night soul -Her damage per rotation is weaker than arle at C0 and only surpasses C2 arle at C2. Kind of P2W heavy to expect people to pull multiple copies to beat arle. -Damage buff is nice but not worth the pull. Sorry bennet exist. -200 fighting spirit can only be reached practically with her premium team which requires you to spend wishes on multiple 5 star natlan characters. Character is a POOR Long term investment.
@@shonenhikada9254 -Not relying on energy does not mean she loses synergy with all older units, after all, she can still generate particles. If anything it may actually lead to a team damage increase, since you won't need Favonius weapons and ER to battery all 4 members -I'll admit, the Fighting Spirit mechanic definitely appears to be a money grab, but even at C0 she's still incredible. I don't know what calcs your using, but again, with proper investment, she gets more offensive stats than other characters (including Arlecchino): Her frontloaded damage is higher Arlecchino's, and if reacted, can match the damage output of most characters' rotations in a matter of seconds. She's effectively a burst DPS, with caviats. -Bennet boosts base attack, that is less universal than a character who offers damage bonus. -She starts out in abyss with 200 Fighting Spirit, so i don't know what you're talking about. Even with a rapid decay rate, because of her high multipliers, she will shred enemy waves faster than any than any other C0 character. True, in the second and third chamber of abyss floor 12, your damage bonus will be lower, but she will still be able to nuke and maintain roughly 60% damage bonus on average between normal attacks of the team and her kit generating bout 90 fighting Sprit. That alone is worth the pull value. -Lastly, no one can predict the future. Whose to say we won't get a Xbalanque, or the like who will make night soul mechanics universal. Xilonen already gives a free night soul burst.
@@rendition55 -Yes it does since she relies on Fighting spirit and being an on-field DPS means that at least 2 characters on the team will need to be ones that cater towards her burst. aka likely natlan characters. She will not work with raiden and many of old characters since they can only contribute to her burst (her main source of damage) through NA which is slow as hell and not practical in actual end game content. Her pyro application is also poor and can be facilitated by PMC who is free and does an equally good enough job to her. -The calculations comparing C0,C1, C2 Mavuika against C0, C1, C2 Arle shows that mavuika losess to arle in both C0, C1 when it comes to team rotation damage by about 4-6k in damage. She only edges her out Arle at c2 and thats with her best teams which is heavily restricted. -Bennet is free and her damage bonus isn't really going to mean much or justify for pulling for her. -Yeah of course mihoyo is going to cater the next abyss to her and give her 200 fighting spirit in the first stage, they always tweek abyss in favor of the banner character to sell her. She is not going to shred enemies faster than arle. " True, in the second and third chamber of abyss floor 12, your damage bonus will be lower, " And there is the hook line from mihoyo to make her less godly and even more of a not pull. "-Lastly, no one can predict the future. Whose to say we won't get a Xbalanque, or the like who will make night soul mechanics universal. Xilonen already gives a free night soul burst." Its pretty common to predict the future base on past behavior. They heavily tied her to Natlan characters, please tell me how many releases from a past region does hoyo do every year after finishing that region? Very few characters if any. And its really not a smart move to buy a character now in hopes that someone unknown future character will help them. Just look at the kafka mains over at HSR who still waiting for a great DoT unit to actually make DoT competitive again with the other top teams.
@@shonenhikada9254 -She can maintain the requirements from her burst with just 1 other Natlan character (likely Xilonen or Citlali) which, to me, isn't as heavy a restriction as people are making it out to be. -The 200 Fighting Spirit in Abyss is permanent, so it's not MHY specifically creating an abyss only for her, more like the opposite. -We are very likely to get more characters who have Night Soul mechanics, but even with our current roster, Mavuika does just fine. She's tied to the Cinder City set the same way Furina is tied to Marachaussee, the caveat being, anyone can manipulate their HP vs Night Soul. Still, I don't believe requiring a character from a specific region to be powerful is that bad of a restriction. -Do your calculations include signature weapons or other 5* weapons? Do your calcs give both characters no energy substats? What's the length of the rotation, and can the enemies be bursted down in a matter of seconds, or is it a boss that requires multi-wave? All of these factors are extremely important.
@@rendition55 Needing to purchase another premium 5 star character in order for said unit to compete with past 5 star main dps is not good design. Its restrictive because it means that slot will always be there for that unit which means that you only really have 2 slots to play with. You don't know if its permanent. Mihoyo has an entire psyche team that knows how to manipulate players. They tend to cater abyss for whatever unit they are pulling for and quickly remove the abyss blessing when said unit is no longer making them a profit or they want to funnel people into purchasing their newest character. We saw this in how they try to nerf Neuvilette when they wanted to push people to pull for Mulani. Except not really. Of the natlan characters we have right now, she only synergizes well with her (xilonen and citali). Even if we get more characters in the future that work well with her, they are likely to d/c making new supports for her after we leave natlan. This is very important given that she relies on nightsoul burst of others to function as a character. "Mavuika does just fine. She's tied to the Cinder City set" Mavuika is not tied to cinder city. She is tied to codex which is why they made her weapon's crit rate so low because they believe everyone will be using codex to get that 40% crit rate bonus. Her cinder set does about the same as PMC who is a free unit. "Furina is tied to Marachaussee, the caveat being, anyone can manipulate their HP vs Night Soul. " Furina being tied to mara isn't bad. Its a great artifact and furina allows all units to enable its passively thanks to her kit; this is a good design. Mavuika does not allow units outside of natlan to use codex or cinder and is heavily restricted to natlan for subpar games she offers; bad design.
She's a very strong dps. very good objectively. but she's simply boring relative to the existing character roster and their kits. that's why people didnt like her.
So many braindead Mavuika coomer in the comment section. Calling people's heads because people supposedly saying she's bad because of her being a dps. THAT IS NOT THE CASE YOU PLANK She is an Archon that is restricted to exclusively Natlan characters. "Ohh but she can use the scroll set". Just use PYRO MC then 😂. If you're going for her because of designs, cool you guys can pull whoever you want. But for people that overestimating and telling people fake facts about this underwhelming Archon, get a grip 😂.
First time I ever got to a video early lol. Whatever Mavuika ends up being, I'll pull for her just because I love Natlan and fire elements in any game are my jam. Hopefully they end up buffing her supporting a little though. Best of luck with growing your channel!
I would replace Diona for someone else since you don’t need the heals or the shield that she provides. The em buff is cool a c6 but compared to other characters she’s a below average option. Maybe a anemo vv user like Kazuha maybe furina or any off field geo character.
@ i wasn’t only talking about the “kit” she is also an underwhelming archon in the story, she doesn’t actually hold any huge powers because of her powers being from the eternal fire, even if she is able to cut a hold through the fake sky to reveal the real world outside of the sky, i do not doubt that was not a “redemption” of how awful she is in both representation and power scaling, psychologically. Now what do we mean by psychologically? Sure, mavuika is a powerful archon, but she isn’t menacing, not once did i feel she had a power scaling above the traveler, the only time i felt this was the fight between mavuika and capitanio. But do you know who does? Raiden, now, i also do not like their direction that they went with her, but what I do like is how she was seen as dangerous, or at least, menacing, i wanted mavuika to be hard to go to, i wanted the traveler to go through obstacles, to show their honor, and legacy towards Natlan, but all we got was a “cool hot mommy motorcycle badass.” Lets not forget she is an HORRIBLE representative for the culture she was inspired by, and its not only the skin color, even her clothes horribly damaged what mavuika was supposed to be, i wanted mavuika to have a proper representation of her culture Maorī, but she failed, she is shown as a hot motorcycle driver, and not a dangerous but fair warrior, i wanted her to look at the traveler and say: “before you talk to me, show my your honor” and use the pilgrimage as a substitute for that instead of a yearly thing that not everyone cares about, I dont understand why they went for this direction, i did not care about her even if hoyoverse throws me a 10,000 interwined fate, i do not care. Natlan is an horrible nation only the first three characters were okay, but they also showed terrible representation. I do not care about her AT ALL, and i certainly hope sheznahya isnt like that.
Also, for the kit problem, she isnt actually bad, she is just, so, goddamn boring! She brings nothing new to the table, no abilities that only she can uses, the only thing that is even considered “interesting” is that god awful motorcycle, and we know how awful that is if you think your dumb enough to waste your money on a average support and main dps, and to a goddamn racist company, then do it, i dont give a fuck, but you are just being childish by not understanding how dumb and average of a character she is, in both gameplay, and in representation and character development. Goodbye, i dont mind an argument but please be respectful all the rude comments were just me ranting, dont be so sensitive about it.
Don't pull her. She is useless without Natlan teammate (more specifically Xilonen). TBH, She extremely bad designed character on every aspect. The only reason for Mavuika to exist is to force you to spend ton of money on another Natlan character.
@@The-hamster2471 If not mistaken almost every archon people thought they would not be good and they was completely wrong. Because almost every archon sounded bad on paper but in practice they was incredibly overpowered.
@@Raiden-the-Goat32 oh she will be good. Great actually but her kit is quite literally dehya with high multipliers. Instead of getting a unique character we got the 69th on field dps who requires Bennett.
Her biggest upside is Xiangling's biggest downside: there's only one Xiangling and 2 sides of the abyss. So I'll just be putting her on whatever team doesn't have Xiangling. It's still a massive disappointment that she isn't more unique
I don't think Mavuika is the problem per se, I think she was always going to be a main dps as the archon of the nation of war. The real question is why despite knowing this, they still released so damn many pyro main dps units in the past already. Like they could've just made Arle or Lyney off-fielders instead and this whole problem wouldn't have existed.
I mean, as the archon of the nation of war, she could have, instead, been a support.
A war isnt won by a single individual but by an army, so someone who can strengthen the army would be more valued than what is just a strong fighter.
That is half the reason why she was expected to be a sub-dps, would make sense thematically(and to replace the dominion of xiangling but we can leave that aside for now).
@@agp4048 agreed, she could have been the general instead of the soldier in the frontline
EXACTLY
@@agp4048 that would’ve made so much more since, like war wise. A war, just as it isn’t won by one person, isn’t won by brute force(unless you break the Geneva Convention and use nuclear options), it’s won by strategy.
The new HoYo scam, new characters are useless without buying “another” support character additionally.
She wouldn't be underwhelming If the pyro element didn't had 69 on-field DPS or her full strength/kit wasn't locked behind another premium 5* character or Constellation. I think this is a really bad and greedy money grabbing move from hoyoverse. Although being said that I truly believe that her banner sell would go crazy after her release.
It’s unfortunate yeah, but if a person cared about playing characters optimally, they would have gotten Xilonen anyway
FOR REAL. I am still going to pull for mavuika and Citlali because I like both of their characters but I’m still kinda disappointed in hoyo for trying to do a money grab.
Idk. With Citlali running right next to her, I wouldnt be surprised if she sold less. She will sell less than Furina regardless, but I think she might sell less than Nahida.
Everyone playing should have pulled for Xilonen. No idea what you're doing with your account if you skipped her. That's a "sucks to be you" issue.
@thiefpotato2759 She will outsell them all I'm guessing when reality sets in instead of some Internet whining. From what I understand, CN loves her.
Mavuika isn't a bad character but she is nothing unique as a support. The 4 pc scroll cannot be considered as mavuika's capability as even the pyro traveler can use that. So compared to recent archons like furina and nahida she doesn't bring anything unique to the table. As a support she on her own is just a B+ for me.
This is also what I'm thinking. We have PMC and XL without spending potentially 150 wishes, too. Not to mention playing her as a support means we are wasting her core strength as a main dps, which is quite a bit stronger than other main dps she can support. So why switching to your main dps when she can deal more dmg being the on fielder 😂
Scroll cant be.
Anemo character released "but he is a vv holder"
@@kadatheklund2904 well, usually they bring something unique to the table to. Kazuha is obvious, he does what the artifact set does on his own. Xianyun makes characters plunge, and heals. The other 5 star Anemo characters are outdated or don’t use vv, or are 4 stars. Jean isn’t anything special, Venti is outdated af, Chasca, Xiao, and Wanderer don’t use it. Other VV characters are 4 stars. So, yeah, she isn’t anything special.
she also gives a decaying dmg buff
She literally is stronger and better than Xiangling while also being stronger than Arlecchino, how is that bad in any shape or form? GTFO.
All I know is that this is the first time I'm not immediately pulling for the archon. She doesn't provide much new for me, and the supportive aspect can be done via Pyro MC (although worst, at least they are free). I'll wait to see how the community ends up utilizing her on whether I pull before her banner ends, or maybe even skipping to see if anything new happens s by the time she reruns. Definitely more interested in Citlali, especially if they Cryo jail her for over a year
Interesting take Citlali more appealing in that regard
They wont, all previous cryo 5 stars were main dps except for shenhe who is cryo team only unit. Citlali isnt for cryo but for meta vaporize and future melt teams
Her value as a dps is low cause there are so many pyro onfielders and they can release more. Her value as a support is tied to scroll, if they release another natlan pyro unit she is again replacable
pyro mc u r welcome
"skill duration being shorter than cooldown isn't a bad thing" yes, but Ei can give Electro off-field for over double the time, and Furina does the same with her Hydro summons. Do we need to put Nahida sigil as well? I am more interested on Citlali, because "Pyro Claymore main DPS" is not appealing anymore.
Now that you mention it, gaming and diluc are very usable main-dps pyro claymores, add there dehya which can be used as a decent support for kinich, remove xinyan for being useless and here we go. Complete over-saturation, wanted a reason to pull for her since she was cool, but im probably going for citlali now since i have plenty of dps characters myself
If the application lasted longer, there would be complications, mualani wouldnt be able to get a xilonen crystalize, wriothesley wouldnt be able to get a cryo swirl/cinder city etc..., because pyro is the most intrusive element it actually works out in her favor in many scenarios, only dpss with a long dps window suffer, but those are very few and far apart and you wouldnt use Mav with them anyway. There is no denying that she is very strong as an on field and off field, for example in Mualani teams she is like a 20% dps increase clorinde aswell, just take a look at a little tc, no point in being so arrogant about something you dont know alot about
@@mihailosekulic7957 Her C1 increases her skill uptime to 18s... and Mualani has no problem removing the pyro aura because Hydro is the strongside reaction. This is only an issue for Melt teams with Xilonen. The only reason she's a "20% dps increase" in Mualani teams is because she enables faster rotations. But then you ignore that she has a severe defect with Sucrose, one of Mualani's best teammates.. so it's not even a smooth upgrade over Xiangling.
Also like, the whole point of her skill is that it has two versions. "What if her off-field pyro app lasted too long and messed up your buffs?" Man, that does sound rough, lucky i can literally turn it off whenever i want by swapping to her and pressing e.
That makes setting up rotations more difficult lmao, Pyro takes time to remove in a lot of teams
Looking at Mavuika it's clear they forgot that she's an Archon (who are known to be OP supports) when they were developing her kit and when they realized that they decided to just slap the off-field aspect for her E last minute so that she has something that can "support" her teammates.
She is a strong support shes just a better on-fielder
Are you forgetting Venti, when he was busted he was a DPS
3:33 ...What 😭
Needing a healer is not the same as NEEDING A SPECIFIC CHARACTER FROM A SPECIFIC REGION 😭
And Nahida one... Girl that's like saying if you bring Raiden into a team, the team is based around Electro reactions. That's not a restriction
7:30 And this is fair, she doesn't meet the requirements. Her kit should be focused more on supporting the teams that need off filed Pyro application, buffing base stats like how Bennett does. She doesn't do enough for an archon, just like how Ei, Zhongli and Venti don't do enough
8:25 yes it is the case. Kinich and Mualani can use Pyro Traveler or Xiangling NO PROBLEM. And Chasca would way rather have Bennett because what Bennett gives her is more valuable.
8:32 As a character who NEEDS characters from her own region to gain her burst SHE SHOULD be having better synergy with them.
I think the meta Chasca team with Mavuika will include her with Bennett not in place of him.
@@JayDamaso78That won't work well since chasca wants to have multiple elements in her team. Plus chasca gains more value with citlali if I'm being honest
What? Mavuika needs no specific character, any Natlan one will do. Meanwhile non-C6 Furina is glued to teamwide healers by default, so they're about equal. Also, ZL rocks and Raiden also used to before the Fontaine powercreep, she's still ok tho.
I don't think you understand english, or then you weren't listening to what he said. "Needing a healer is not the same as NEEDING A SPECIFIC CHARACTER FROM A SPECIFIC REGION 😭" whatever you said here is completely irrelevant. He said that you need a healer for Furina to gain fanfare points, otherwise you can't buff your team. He also said that Nahida needs a team that revolves around Dendro reactions, because she, specifically, buffs dendro reactions, like, ALOT. I don't know what Raiden had to do with that part, since she's purely a main DPS and one of the best batteries in the game. Also for the last part, you don't know about future Natlan characters yet, they may have excellent synergy with her. Pretty sure she'll work just fine with some, like Xilonen, maybe even Kinich depending on the teammates. I don't know if you were trying to be cool while writing this comment by "disagreeing with the youtuber" but you didn't make the cut. Also, why were you crying in the beginning of the comment?
@@reignbirdfurina does NOT require a teamwide healer even at c0, even less so at c1 and 2, solo healers are just fine
The guy who designed Mavuika's kit is the same as the one who designed Dehya's kit ! Role consolidation that works on paper but who are underwhelming in one of those roles ! Dehya being a bad DPS and Mavuika's supportive role not being really great !
And they both get fixes to their bad playstyle at c1! Truly a dehya moment.
i guess an upgrade of xianlging on like 50% of team that must use xiangling is bad now lol
@zard2341 she's sure a sidegrade to Xiangling but not a sidegrade to Bennett, which is the thing most of us players have expected since Circle Impact is such an outdated mechanic and that it kills diversity to play 2 ATK-scaling DPS in abyss !
@@sof5495 a char not being a second bennet doesn't make them bad, but ok
@zard2341 I said she is good as a DPS but her off-field/support role has been butched ! Hoyo clearly put it all in her DPS role, which is a shame since Arlecchino is basically powercrept now ! But guess that Genshin is taking the same direction as HSR !
I wish the Chinese pulled the same shit they did on 1.1 where they forced hoyo to completely change the archon’s kit because it sucked. (Zhongli)
Sadly they are fond of 'On-field Mommy DPS's'. They are probably happy for DPS Archon so long as she's badass (A.KA Rides a bike) and can deal huge damage. For them it's an automatic swipe to C6
They only changed it because Mihoyo had invested all their money into GI and couldn't risk people leaving their game at that point or they would go bankrupt. Sadly, they have F. you money now and don't need to listen to fans criticisms given that they will just filter into another mihoyo game (ZZZ, HSR). This is why their customer service is poor and they often do not listen to fan feedbacks or criticisms these days.
I don't know if people think Mavuika is bad or just so easily replaceable without much loss and still needs a natlan teamate to unlock her sub dps potential (burst), without, she doesn't improve things to the point of sacrificing so many primos. Let's see what upcoming characters can bring.Thx for the video.
She is biggest disappointment for me so far. I was planning to c2 her, but after her kit leakes she is the easiest skip for me. Just another pyro dps with heavy restrictions. Hef offield is okish but nothing special. On top of that her gameplay looks terrible. Doing circles with her bike. How did they come up with this? I thought it cant get worse than Chasca, but here we go.
Natlan, the nation of deception. I was so hype at first, now I just want the story end to discover more interest outside this land.
Please, be courteous to the archon of motorcycles :D :D
Chasca is fun tho.
"Doing circles with her bike. How did they come up with this?"
You'll have a heart attack watching dmc5
@@novalee8127 Dmc5 cavaliere is way funnier than just doing donut as best damage sequence. We can't compare it
They really dont want to powercreep or even compete with Xiangling. Instead they gave us ANOTHER PYRO dps. No thanks. I got C1 Neuvillette i am fine. I will either get Arle or Clorinde. Also i like pyro traveler i want to use them
Real bruh I already have 2 of the most broken dps (Neuvi and Arle) with their sig and Hoyo suddenly decided that we need another top dps while being an ARCHON 😭 Soo f'in disappointed 😞
"I'll get Arle who is basically the same as Mavuika" Ok??
@@mr.poteitou Arlecchino isn’t nearly as restrictive as Mavuika. On field
@@mr.poteitouYou don't have to use Fontaine characters with Arle lil bro 😂
that's what irritated me too, the guy said no thx to "ANOTHER PYRO dps" following up with pulling for Arle? Anyway, good luck to everyone with their pulls be they for Neuvi rn, MAVUIKA on New years or Arle/Clorinde mid Jan
I'm pretty sure that even if a lot of people don't seem to like her kit, her sales would still be high.
Of course, whales and people love big damage in the end.
Because the haters are a minority just super obnoxious and loud
Really disappointed that capitano and xabalanque are not playable. I was excited for them from fontaine .
We need pyro man and cryo man
My biggest issue is that, compared to the other archons, mavuika is (probably) going to age like milk. When your main job in a team is to deal damage and you access that damage by using the new regional mechanic, you're going to fall out of use if either A) another pyro onfielder with more DPS comes out or B) you stop receiving new natlan supports. B is all but guaranteed to happen at the end of the 5.X cycle and A is looking likely to happen eventually with the direction the game is going in. Furina is a best in slot buffer for nearly every team, nahida is still hands-down the best dendro applier and has good damage to go along with it, and while Zhong and Venti dont perform as well as they used to, they are still each the best at what they do. Raiden is the closest comparison, but even she has better utility in her energy regen and burst dmg buffing, so even though she isn't doing a ton of dmg herself, she can still benefit your team by doing dmg. There is indeed flexibility in making Mav on off fielder or an on-fielder, but that is not at all unique to her (raiden, dehya, ganyu, and ayato can all be used as off-fielders) and most off-fielders can be made to function as decent on-fielders.
In fact that may be a part of why she was designed as an off-fielder, because turning her into an on-fielder with c6 bennett would be insanely easy and potent and they couldn't sell the traditional "infusion at c6" style of cons.
Edit: it's entirely possible that she remains the highest DPS on-fielder to retain her "archon status" and is balanced by having a limited amount of supports but, at least in my opinion, "highest dps" isnt a strong enough reason to pull her when abyss is clearable with units way worse than her.
She’s less than a 10% increase compared to arlecchino and mavuika is also more expensive since her teams pretty much require Xilonen. While arlecchino is more flexible and has more frontloaded damage.
I think I may go for c1 arlecchino :>
Shes definitely gonna be great but is pretty underwhelming since she just doesn't offer anything new
slight arle upgrade in her premium team but she lacks arles flexibility because of her fighting spirit mechanic, and also being a charged attack dps, this isnt even counting the fact that we have like 10 pyro on field dps already
slight xiangling upgrade but is a downgrade to her in some teams because of her slower pyro application with a shorter duration, which means tighter rotations even for teams she would technically be an upgrade to xiangling in
lol she is weaker than arle at c0. She only beats c2 arle at c2.
@@shonenhikada9254 No shes stronger
@@shonenhikada9254that's undeniably false, she's better than arle at c2 aylt c0
Mavuika c2 is so busted that can even beat c6 arle
@@martimdiasguimaraes3293 Not. False she is weaker than Arle at C0, C1 and only surpasses her at C2 (barely).
These are the numbers
C0 mavuika + 200 FS = 103.65k dps (1st rotation)
C0 mavuika + 130 FS = 84.53k dps (2nd rotation, least FS collected).
C0 Arlecchino = 94.3k dps (might get higher with BOL stacking)
C1 Mavuika + 200 FS = 110.96k dps
C1 Mavuika + 162 FS = 99.53k dps
C1 Arlecchino = 116.75k dps
C2 mavuika + 200 FS = 152.5k dps
C2 mavuika + 162 FS = 134.65k dps
C2 Arlecchino = 137.0k dps
@@shonenhikada9254 are you comparing with them having the same stats, including having 0 Er? Are they with their signature weapon? With their Bis artifact and team?
Not only that but Mavuika has sub-dps potencial (a strong one) and Arle has none.
Are you taking that into account when comparing their pull value?
I mean is she all that interresting, no, does she completely redefine the meta like nahida or furina, no. But is she still really good as a main dps and support/sub-dps, yes. Pure meta wise she's not a dissapointment. If you really wanted a big meta shake-up, then yes she is
She’s a less than 10% increase compared to arlecchino while also being more expensive and restrictive.
Her as a support is clunky and undeserving of the archon title.
@The-hamster2471 Arlechinno is more fragile, its take and leave, just play the one you like more
@@wansper9297you can't manage her onfield if you think she's fragile
@@morasiregar1052 Arlecchino is also just a boring character with a boring kit.
@@EinSilverRose better to be boring than to be trashy 🤪
bro she replaces half of xiangling teams and none with the true archon (bennet), on top of that she uses bennet instead. how is she better, citlali is better than her
That's GENUINELY the worst part for me 😭 Like what's the point of an archon if I can't replace the same 2 characters I've been using since 1.x
Because she doesn't share the same type of gameplay that other archons offer.
Aside from Venti...
Zhongli gives out a shield and petrifies
Raiden has electro off field with a big weeb slash
Nahida connects dendro damages with a significantly boosted support burst
Furina applies hydro with a broken support burst
With Mavuika, you get a motorcycle and woosh through Natlan. She's not bad, but she just doesn't share the same type of broken gameplay like other archons. If you already have an Arlechinno, Xiangling, and Bennett, you'd have no reason to pull for Mavuika's kit other than collection reasons or you just want a new toy to play with.
That said, I'm pulling for her knowing I have a dps Arlechinno and an off pyro support. Hopefully this gave you some insights as to why players are perplexed about her "this already exists" kit.
a direct upgrade of xiangling on like 50% of her team is bad now? truly a yelan vs xinqiu moment lol
i don't know why people hate a character that is balanced, i personally don't want one of the best meta character in the game to be fully powercreep by a new character, because if they keep doing that, the game will ended up like HSR (rip seele, blade, jingliu)
@zard2341 they don't hate characters that are balanced, it's just the simp drip marketing and the need to replace a party member with a new toy 🤷♂️🤦♂️
I still tell people they can complete the content with Childe and they look at me like I'm crazy 😒
@@kotaro3018 i'm just weirded out on why people don't want a second xiangling when there is so many team that must use her but feels very bad to play (300+ er requirement)
and she actually bring a new team archetype which is a double DPS, her burst deal so much frontloaded damage but quite low window, now she can be paired with character that have the same dps window, a char that is not long enough to be on fielder but long enough to be played as quick swap like navia and yae
As a DPS mavuika needs other Natlan characters to deal dmg. But as a subdps she needs other natlan characters EVEN MORE otherwise she might feel like using xiangling as a solo dps without the fishing spear.
I prefer a flexible dps, hence im pulling for Arlecchino.
Good choice! I have her and she’s a game changer :>
A powercrept DPS that lost place in the meta and will keep losing like all carry DPS, while Mavuika is the archon, buffes and plays as sub DPS, being the best pyro sub dps. Literally absurd to pull for Arlecchino, purely emotional and irrational.
@@gamingtemplar9893 Even though Mavuika may be more powerful than Arlecchino, Arlecchino will still remain a powerful Dps, her numbers are INSANE and she’s extremely easy to build and can be slapped onto any team not to mention that her constellations are crazy. I love both these characters and hopefully I can get arle constellations and Mavuika :>
@@gamingtemplar9893 I agree with you so much. I see so many people saying they're skipping Mavuika for Arlecchino and it's just so astounding to me since Mavuika has so much more versitality as a dps, sub-dps, and buffer. Also since Mavuika is not going to be powercrept for a while since she's a recent Archon. She's more future proof than people think.
all the teams where you can use mavuika as an alternative to XL and don't need XL's better pyro app you can just use PMC. so she really is just another pyro DPS and the support stuff isn't worth going for.
I mean regardless of what people say or like its highly likely most people will still pull for her even tho they say ots dissapointing
which leads to her not getting improved. people are so stupid
SKIPPP
@@dcbdafbngdnAre people stupid for wanting to go for a character they like?
This is literally the same cycle with furina back then. Saying she bad coz she need healer & drain hp.
Whining is gemshin fandom forte. This community are so predictable.
@@harfi212 yep even tho i was also against the idea of needing z healer i was still gonna pull her regardless same with mavuika people say she will be weaker than neuvilette cuz of teamrestrictions or so but the same happened with diluc hu tao. Hu tao came out and u needed xq to use her people still ended up doing that. Same will happen with neuv
My main problem for Mavuika is that I feel like apart from her damage I can pretty much replace her with traveler as a support.
And I have no real incentive to want her as a main dps as I own Lyney and Arlechino and gaming and diluc and dehya and Xiangling and Bennet pretty much every pyro character.
I believe as an archon she should have a sense of uniqueness to her. If she was mostly off field centered and only competed with Xiangling and dehya making her feel more important. And she can have 100% percent up time because if she is in wriothesly team she would likely be wearing cinder set to be off field and if she had golden troupe for pure damage you can alter your rotation to use Xilonen after her last application of pyro with wriothesly to make cryo crystallize. But then again I might just be an unhappy critic who just wants “overpowered” characters…
Actually if Genshin allows up to save artifact sets to equip fully on characters i can forgive this…
Mavuika not having full uptime on her skill is not a good thing.. you're just regurgitating another yt'er whose name you banned from being mentioned.
It's actually a hinderance in every team EXCEPT Wrio / Xilonen.. which is why her C1 increases her skill uptime. So does C1 brick her kit? No, because this "upside" is not an upside at all. The low skill duration screws with so many buff uptimes because Mavuika has to be used right before the main dps.
I had to rephrase this comment a dozen times just to get it to post. Are you really that paranoid about people noticing you're just copying what he said? His video already gotten clowned on in the TC community mate.
It gets real serious around these parts
Im quite interested in who is this TC youre talking about
I just hate the false advertising, the way she fought the captain was far different then using a motorcycle.
that is not false advertising in any which way. Is it false advertising for neuvillette to not be a plunge dps just because we saw him jump on tartaglia's head during the first part of fontaine?
@@substitutedoll5224i just imagined neuvilette being xiao and hopping on a pogo stick
@substitutedoll5224 That's not a valid argument that neuvillette scene lasts literally 1 second while Mavuika's fight with the captain lasts several minutes.
@@substitutedoll5224 this is so unnecessarily funny
@@marcosmartin721so what about raiden then? She doesn’t go into the plane of euthymia. And both Tartaglia and Arlecchino don’t use their boss forms either.
It's a shame her that her biggest value will come for being a DPS. I always prefer supports.
Fortunately for me they're releasing pyro traveler and for DPS I'd rather play Arlecchino (love that she has a scythe and gives vampire vibes).
Unless you cant afford her weapon
I have Arlecchino and top 100 Diluc, so i don't think i am gonna pull for her if the banner is not the whole patch.
If her bike design would like ghost rider then that will fit more or a Phoenix tbh
she fits the saying : no one fights alone
Mavuika sub DPS damage increases with constellations, Xiangling's doesn't. At c6 she has more than 300% damage increase over c0, so if she is better than Xiangling at c0, imagine at c6. At c2 she is already around 60% stronger.
Because her storyline build made her look so badass and awesome but the company don't give a f****** care about anybody
Summary: Mavuika is a good 5* star dps but she falls extremely short when compared to Nahida and Furina.
I have a super well invested Hu Tao and Arle both C1R1 idk about so the only reason for me to pull future pyro main dps's lies in either unique play style or I just really like their character desgin but the omega goofy motorcycle animations in a fantasy world setting are just shitt imo same reason why i skipped Chasca and Kinich. And the teams where i would want a Xiangling upgrade she just doesn't work.
So i have 0 reason to pull her and i think i'm not alone with this. Xiangling and Onfield-Dps Sidegrade and off looking character desgin.
On the other side Citlali (I also don't have really a use case for) is just adorable from her animations and that's why i will pull her.
I play since 1.0, can beat any content with eyes closed with 10 different Teams, so yeah I cba about meta or strength.
If you have Support Mavuika, Citlali and Xilonen on a team, what artifact is everyone on? Only 1 user can be on Cinder City
venti, zhongli, furina, raiden work on any team in the past, present and future. mavuika works exclusively with natland characters, for the next natland patches, enjoy the worst archon for 4 months :)
I think her bike is awesome, but spinning in circles with it when dealing damage feels weird.
If she sucks the Chinese community will complain and force them to buff the shit out of her
Won't work. Mihoyo has F. you money that they don't need to listen to anyone anymore.
Because in the storyline her true build of that character is only in storyline mission that's her real build of the character design build for that character
would have preferred a dragon/any creature as mount instead of a bike tbh… still cool though
So in other words she’s not an archon, just an overhyped money pit that needs you to buy “another” support character to build up her kit, which is the new HoYo scam now. You have to buy more than one character just to get the other one to perform, such a joke.
So like every character in this game?
Tbh, a character that can deal godly dmg and buff the party with scroll is worth it imo. The potential to just drop her tao skill and go about ur other party members back to Mavuika to burst and do autos/charges is intriguing. Not many characters can do good off and on field dmg after all
Unless she can't buff anemo with scroll... At least she will be able run millelith
Plenty of characters can deal good damage on and off-field, she just deals more
Should I pull for Mavuika or Arlecchino? I skipped Xilonen’s banner.
2:40 Can you even take it to the next chamber? Arlecchino's Bond of Life for example resets every time and thus always start at zero.
So my question is, if I don’t have arlechino, should I pull for macula as a lyric dps for my acc? I already have xilonen and will pull for Citlali too
mavuika would be very good value pull then yes
8:07 isn't that more of a skill issue? Like couldn't you still do that but just want to do her skill again?
He's just copying T.G.S. lol I thought I recognized that part
The video actually made me worry more. In the main DPS section, I was missing the clarification that she will do at least the same amount of damage as the current top DPS. And in the support section there was always a but for every example.
In regards to her design, I am not a fan of the motorcycle because I love to actually see some nice combat animation of the character I saved or spend for. Not a motorcycle driving in circles. Wasted potential unfortunately.
She is weaker than Arle at c0 and c1 and only surpasses her at c2. She is basically team restricted so heavily and still does less damage per rotation.
How I wanted to see her was Bill off the storyline built but able to still able to ride the motorcycle on R2 building but they didn't give a freaking care about the character Sylvester on a piece of s*** move a crappy build
Kit wise yeah.. nothing new except that exploration.
Story wise, her character depth is like a cardboard, too perfect yet so thin. And there's the motorcycle problem..
bro i idont knowiff i should pll for neuvi or not or wait for her. cuz heres my problem
My team has 3 main dps ( Wanderer, Ayaka, and tignari)
I have xiangling, but only c2
i have mona and jean, but not built
i have no good artifacts.
i have around 30 fragile. but i dont think i can farm her resources and also farm her artifacts
i like neuvillette more.
Yeah right, like 20% of the teams who needs pyro subdps wants Xiangling's faster application. Oh, the remaining 80% where Mavuika is better? Pfft who cares, mid archon, miiiid. I don't care if Xiangling's usage rate will spiral down for the whole next year and maybe the next after Mavuika's release, mid archon is still miiiid. 😛
As of now ? I feel she would be the type of unit if you have the facilitation for she would break your game but if nah you would struggle
Real question is if she is good for dps pyro aether or citlali is better??.
I wanted them to build her like the storyline itself story build her story build of the character design with way better looking Her Moves were badass that's what made me want the character it wasn't a motorcycle
If her C2 added more app to invalidate xiangling I would have gone for it. As she is i might do C0 R1 just because i dont have a pyro dps. And shes the first decent one that her appearance doesn't annoy me.
Her storyline mission build Oliver missions you did in storyline her build of that bill that's what made me want the character
GUYS I REALLY DON’T KNOW WHAT TO DO ANYMORE!! I WANT MAVUIKA, CITLALI, AND SKIRK. Is that doable if I go all out this patch with 200 pulls and have 40 pity already?
Lets gooo. Its perfectly paced this time.
Great info as always.
Also looking forward to you covering 5.3 livestream.
No English VA is such a letdown T-T
May I would have threw in their ability of her to attack was a dragon with the ultimate because that would have been badass artist Harper built like the storyline her real setup does a real setup is the storyline build
99.99% of people commenting about game design, have no degree or experience in......game design, they are just IDIOTS with an opinion that matters NOTHING. This nonsense needs to stop, it is affecting gaming.
‘imagine a wriothesley team’ yes that’s what people do with his teams
Now imagine Wriothesley oiled up with only a thong and black chantilly lace garterbelt with Shenhe in matching lingerie except periwinkle colored.
At the end of the day just pull for whoever you guys want! If you guys like the character pull for them. Don’t be so worried about meta just pull for whatever makes you happy. Hope this helps🫡
The character destroys the game in all aspects as the most OP character in the game. A group of brain damaged people with emotional issues for characters, spread hate and misinformation and overreact to slightly bad parts of the kit that are there for balance, because their Arlecchino or group of pixels is being DESTROYED. And some are probably not just trolls, but also, people who hates her for being HOT in all senses.
These people are literally a danger for society.
The bill that could have did better on the story build is way better her Mission build was awesome and I skipped over it like it never existed that shows how they don't care about that shows I don't care about the character
Will she be a top tier? Yes. But not for the reasons we wanted her to be.
Whoever disliked this video, has mental issues. Emotional Arlecchino fanboys or trolls of some kind.
Welp the chronicled wish has some interesting character might pull for xiao or ganyu or childe
She's an archon. For almost 5 years now, and archons dont disappoint.
this one will given how bad mihoyo did her design.
Well get ready for disappointment
This is the worst so far
And a true God character has raw God power I don't play games to be f****** weak I play games to carry people and help them you don't have the power to carry what's the point playing the game
As a F2P, what should I do: I have enough for 2 pity and I want Mavuika since I like her design and I currently have 0 DPS units(I losted all my 50/50 and I only pulled for supports like nahida, kazuha, etc).
Should I go for C2 Mavuika? or C0 Mavuika and C0 Citlali? Or C0 Mavuika, and save for Furina? or C0 Mavuika and wait for C0 Xilonen?
As a F2P i would say skip. She is going to age like milk with how her kit was design.
since you really like her, definitely go for it. if you can also grab C0 Citlali, that will really activate Mavuika's strength
And it's sad they didn't give him enough care about the character that is through stuff together didn't care I like the character I'm just mad they just don't care about the character bus company owner the game the character of being built right
Well, here is the problem. Mavuika is weaker than Xilonen in Natlan. Whoever pulled for Xilonen, already got the Natlan archon. Everyone else is just extras.
She is a main dps or a sub dps she can't be both because of the artefact sets. And there are still no quickswap buttons and save-functions for entire artefact sets so NO thx!
I think you're putting to much credit to her off-field role. As a unit who NEEDS Natlan characters, she SHOULD work better with them. she cant work with Mualani in double Hydro, There is literally no reason to pull for her in Kinich teams when you already have Pyro MC, who does the exact same as her but for free. Then we have Wriothesley who doesn't work that well either since you want to run him with Furina, which Mavuika cant apply enough pyro for her to Vape OR Wriothesley to Melt, making it so she steals most of the reactions, same goes for Childe. Not to mention, this really doesn't bold well for characters IN THE FUTURE after Natlan. No night-soul bursts, means no Burst for Mavuika, meaning her teams will be limited entirely to those in Natlan. Making her long-term value practically non existent (which adds only further to her being a DPS) Also, why are we acting like Mavuika's lack of energy need is so much better than XL's Bennett battery when Mavuika ALSO needs a battery in Xilonen and Citlali.
To say this is fine because Furina's also is limited to having a healer and Nahida is limited to Dendro teams also is a major stretch. Furina needing a GENERAL healer is in no way similar to Mavuika needing a SPECIFIC region's characters. Healers outnumber Natlan characters drastically and are ALWAYS going to be added on to, Natlan wont always get new night-soul triggers for them to be on the same level as a healer for Furina. This is what makes Furina such a good unit, her flexibility for future AND past characters. (and as well as her general support buffs)
And saying Nahida is limited because of Dendro... Do I really have to say anything here? Dendro is one of the strongest elements in the game, Her 'limiting' her teams is nothing but providing universal support for her element and she does what no other character could do well until she released, which is Dendro app. She works that way, cause thats what her element needs. It'd be different if instead they made her just an EM support, she'd be worse overall because even if you give your teammates 250 EM, they cant really do anything without the dendro app.
Mavuika doesn't add anything new to the table with her support mode, all she really has is mediocre pyro app and Cinder City (which once again, Pyro MC has as well.) She's just a waste of an archon in my opinion. And her DPS mode isn't different, just another Pyro DPS that will more than likely get power crept soon anyways.
Hoyo always did Pyro-Claymore dirty
May I just only want the motorcycle one area to use her super R2 that's the only spot I wanted to be able to use the motorcycle I didn't want it and moves I didn't want to have a motorcycle tacking and moves are ultimate that's so sad they didn't care about the character
She is objectively the single best character in the game
best dps
really good support
really good sub dps
amazing exploration especially in natlan
the most diverse playstyle you can NA CA Dash trough enemies plunge attack anything
Her motorcycle mobility is only good at c6.
-Amazing exploration only in natlan. It feels like crap outside natlan and at C0.
-Her support capabilities and sub dps roles are mid and not worth primo gems
-She is weaker than arle at c0 despite team restrictions
-She is going to age like milk and is heavily p2w. Not worth it.
@@shonenhikada9254
- even outside natlan she ranges from best to third best in all aspects of exploaration
-as a support she gives more damage bonus frontloaded than furina while doing more sub dps than her
-c0 mav in her best team is 10% above c0 arle across the board so don't throw around basless stuff
- the last part is also baseless and laughable
@@jiffonbuffo no even at c0 she is better than pretty much everyone else besides chasca
@@erronblack3462 Amazing that everything you have just said is a lie.
Her damage is anything but underwhelming, but her herself is nothing but underwhelming
But but the company don't give a damn about the character
Hoyoverse is just most likely making her underwhelming at the moment so that people would want neuvillete and/or zhongli, then theyd make her incredible when the banner is almost done (hoping) so that people would end up spending to also get mavuika.
Unfortunately not. Her kit is finalized. Last time a kit was changed after being finalized was zhongli and thats cause the CN community basically rebelled against hoyo
Will a Mavuika, Xilonen, Kazuha, and bennett team work?
The video was supposed to be on maviuka +ve and -ve but you just literally pointed out her +ve .
Seriously, were you paid or just a simp?
And yes I like the character but I like power not f****** weakness I like to be able to carry people not to be damn weak
will kachina work good with mavuika? i started a month ago so i practically have no characters and now i don’t know what to pull because i have no natlan characters for mavuika. should i maybe go for neuvi?
Kachina can be used if you don't have anything else. Both neuvillette or mavuika will still be good pulls for you IMO
heard enough, citlali gets my pulls
To me, Mavuika has 4 unique things going for her:
-Not relying on energy means more offensive stats, so in reality, Mama is hitting like a SuperNova. The theory crafting calcs don't even account for the extra damage she'll be doing.
-Highest burst damage, single-number-hit in the game .That means you don't miss out even if you only play her off-field + burst.
-Guaranteed damage bonus buff at the START of Floor 1 in the Abyss. Speed Runners Dream.
-With the Cinder City buff and 200 Fighting Spirit, she can give the active character a maximum of 90% Damage bonus. That's even Higher than Furina. True it decays very quickly as opposed to builds up quickly, but that's the essence of Pyro; all out attack from the jump.
With these 4 things added to her off-field pyro application and damage, she's truly the best off-field and on-field Pyro unit in the game.
-It means fail design because if she doesn't rely on Energy it means she won't synergize well with many past units or possibly future units that don't rely on night soul
-Her damage per rotation is weaker than arle at C0 and only surpasses C2 arle at C2. Kind of P2W heavy to expect people to pull multiple copies to beat arle.
-Damage buff is nice but not worth the pull. Sorry bennet exist.
-200 fighting spirit can only be reached practically with her premium team which requires you to spend wishes on multiple 5 star natlan characters.
Character is a POOR Long term investment.
@@shonenhikada9254
-Not relying on energy does not mean she loses synergy with all older units, after all, she can still generate particles. If anything it may actually lead to a team damage increase, since you won't need Favonius weapons and ER to battery all 4 members
-I'll admit, the Fighting Spirit mechanic definitely appears to be a money grab, but even at C0 she's still incredible. I don't know what calcs your using, but again, with proper investment, she gets more offensive stats than other characters (including Arlecchino): Her frontloaded damage is higher Arlecchino's, and if reacted, can match the damage output of most characters' rotations in a matter of seconds. She's effectively a burst DPS, with caviats.
-Bennet boosts base attack, that is less universal than a character who offers damage bonus.
-She starts out in abyss with 200 Fighting Spirit, so i don't know what you're talking about. Even with a rapid decay rate, because of her high multipliers, she will shred enemy waves faster than any than any other C0 character. True, in the second and third chamber of abyss floor 12, your damage bonus will be lower, but she will still be able to nuke and maintain roughly 60% damage bonus on average between normal attacks of the team and her kit generating bout 90 fighting Sprit. That alone is worth the pull value.
-Lastly, no one can predict the future. Whose to say we won't get a Xbalanque, or the like who will make night soul mechanics universal. Xilonen already gives a free night soul burst.
@@rendition55 -Yes it does since she relies on Fighting spirit and being an on-field DPS means that at least 2 characters on the team will need to be ones that cater towards her burst. aka likely natlan characters. She will not work with raiden and many of old characters since they can only contribute to her burst (her main source of damage) through NA which is slow as hell and not practical in actual end game content. Her pyro application is also poor and can be facilitated by PMC who is free and does an equally good enough job to her.
-The calculations comparing C0,C1, C2 Mavuika against C0, C1, C2 Arle shows that mavuika losess to arle in both C0, C1 when it comes to team rotation damage by about 4-6k in damage. She only edges her out Arle at c2 and thats with her best teams which is heavily restricted.
-Bennet is free and her damage bonus isn't really going to mean much or justify for pulling for her.
-Yeah of course mihoyo is going to cater the next abyss to her and give her 200 fighting spirit in the first stage, they always tweek abyss in favor of the banner character to sell her. She is not going to shred enemies faster than arle. " True, in the second and third chamber of abyss floor 12, your damage bonus will be lower, " And there is the hook line from mihoyo to make her less godly and even more of a not pull.
"-Lastly, no one can predict the future. Whose to say we won't get a Xbalanque, or the like who will make night soul mechanics universal. Xilonen already gives a free night soul burst."
Its pretty common to predict the future base on past behavior. They heavily tied her to Natlan characters, please tell me how many releases from a past region does hoyo do every year after finishing that region? Very few characters if any. And its really not a smart move to buy a character now in hopes that someone unknown future character will help them. Just look at the kafka mains over at HSR who still waiting for a great DoT unit to actually make DoT competitive again with the other top teams.
@@shonenhikada9254
-She can maintain the requirements from her burst with just 1 other Natlan character (likely Xilonen or Citlali) which, to me, isn't as heavy a restriction as people are making it out to be.
-The 200 Fighting Spirit in Abyss is permanent, so it's not MHY specifically creating an abyss only for her, more like the opposite.
-We are very likely to get more characters who have Night Soul mechanics, but even with our current roster, Mavuika does just fine. She's tied to the Cinder City set the same way Furina is tied to Marachaussee, the caveat being, anyone can manipulate their HP vs Night Soul. Still, I don't believe requiring a character from a specific region to be powerful is that bad of a restriction.
-Do your calculations include signature weapons or other 5* weapons? Do your calcs give both characters no energy substats? What's the length of the rotation, and can the enemies be bursted down in a matter of seconds, or is it a boss that requires multi-wave?
All of these factors are extremely important.
@@rendition55
Needing to purchase another premium 5 star character in order for said unit to compete with past 5 star main dps is not good design. Its restrictive because it means that slot will always be there for that unit which means that you only really have 2 slots to play with.
You don't know if its permanent. Mihoyo has an entire psyche team that knows how to manipulate players. They tend to cater abyss for whatever unit they are pulling for and quickly remove the abyss blessing when said unit is no longer making them a profit or they want to funnel people into purchasing their newest character. We saw this in how they try to nerf Neuvilette when they wanted to push people to pull for Mulani.
Except not really. Of the natlan characters we have right now, she only synergizes well with her (xilonen and citali). Even if we get more characters in the future that work well with her, they are likely to d/c making new supports for her after we leave natlan. This is very important given that she relies on nightsoul burst of others to function as a character.
"Mavuika does just fine. She's tied to the Cinder City set"
Mavuika is not tied to cinder city. She is tied to codex which is why they made her weapon's crit rate so low because they believe everyone will be using codex to get that 40% crit rate bonus. Her cinder set does about the same as PMC who is a free unit.
"Furina is tied to Marachaussee, the caveat being, anyone can manipulate their HP vs Night Soul. "
Furina being tied to mara isn't bad. Its a great artifact and furina allows all units to enable its passively thanks to her kit; this is a good design. Mavuika does not allow units outside of natlan to use codex or cinder and is heavily restricted to natlan for subpar games she offers; bad design.
She's a very strong dps. very good objectively.
but she's simply boring relative to the existing character roster and their kits.
that's why people didnt like her.
I got nevu instead of mavuika bit maybe ill get her i really dont know simce they nerfed her fly and swim and i hate it
So many braindead Mavuika coomer in the comment section. Calling people's heads because people supposedly saying she's bad because of her being a dps.
THAT IS NOT THE CASE YOU PLANK
She is an Archon that is restricted to exclusively Natlan characters. "Ohh but she can use the scroll set". Just use PYRO MC then 😂. If you're going for her because of designs, cool you guys can pull whoever you want. But for people that overestimating and telling people fake facts about this underwhelming Archon, get a grip 😂.
Just got Diluc from the Zhongli Banner , i guess i be benching him for the Pyro Archon , Sorry Diluc
First time I ever got to a video early lol. Whatever Mavuika ends up being, I'll pull for her just because I love Natlan and fire elements in any game are my jam. Hopefully they end up buffing her supporting a little though. Best of luck with growing your channel!
😂😂😂😂😂😂 the archon God is somebody with a lot of all God power if it doesn't have power it's not a god it's a garbage not worth drawing for
Best character in the game.
Is a team like mavuika with tidel shodow citlali Bennet diona good for abyss???
I would replace Diona for someone else since you don’t need the heals or the shield that she provides. The em buff is cool a c6 but compared to other characters she’s a below average option.
Maybe a anemo vv user like Kazuha maybe furina or any off field geo character.
@The-hamster2471 saying diona for tidel shodow passive is black cliff with rosaria better?
@@abolfazleabner5301 yeah she’d work better.
Yes, she is.
Then don’t pull for her 😄
@ i wasn’t only talking about the “kit” she is also an underwhelming archon in the story, she doesn’t actually hold any huge powers because of her powers being from the eternal fire, even if she is able to cut a hold through the fake sky to reveal the real world outside of the sky, i do not doubt that was not a “redemption” of how awful she is in both representation and power scaling, psychologically.
Now what do we mean by psychologically? Sure, mavuika is a powerful archon, but she isn’t menacing, not once did i feel she had a power scaling above the traveler, the only time i felt this was the fight between mavuika and capitanio. But do you know who does? Raiden, now, i also do not like their direction that they went with her, but what I do like is how she was seen as dangerous, or at least, menacing, i wanted mavuika to be hard to go to, i wanted the traveler to go through obstacles, to show their honor, and legacy towards Natlan, but all we got was a “cool hot mommy motorcycle badass.”
Lets not forget she is an HORRIBLE representative for the culture she was inspired by, and its not only the skin color, even her clothes horribly damaged what mavuika was supposed to be, i wanted mavuika to have a proper representation of her culture Maorī, but she failed, she is shown as a hot motorcycle driver, and not a dangerous but fair warrior, i wanted her to look at the traveler and say: “before you talk to me, show my your honor” and use the pilgrimage as a substitute for that instead of a yearly thing that not everyone cares about, I dont understand why they went for this direction, i did not care about her even if hoyoverse throws me a 10,000 interwined fate, i do not care.
Natlan is an horrible nation only the first three characters were okay, but they also showed terrible representation.
I do not care about her AT ALL, and i certainly hope sheznahya isnt like that.
Also, for the kit problem, she isnt actually bad, she is just, so, goddamn boring! She brings nothing new to the table, no abilities that only she can uses, the only thing that is even considered “interesting” is that god awful motorcycle, and we know how awful that is
if you think your dumb enough to waste your money on a average support and main dps, and to a goddamn racist company, then do it, i dont give a fuck, but you are just being childish by not understanding how dumb and average of a character she is, in both gameplay, and in representation and character development.
Goodbye, i dont mind an argument but please be respectful all the rude comments were just me ranting, dont be so sensitive about it.
I’m sorry, what’s the “racist company” about?
@ uhhh hoyoverse
I don't have any natlan character..what should I do?
Rip
You have kachina, is totally functional with scroll set, something like mavuika Kachina benet + any elem aplic should work
Don't pull her. She is useless without Natlan teammate (more specifically Xilonen).
TBH, She extremely bad designed character on every aspect. The only reason for Mavuika to exist is to force you to spend ton of money on another Natlan character.
People whining about her kit being disappointing when Mualani and Kinich are DPS characters with no support.
Absolutely comical.
Not gonna lie, I'm just pulling for her to be a transportation tool and cause I collect archons. I don't need another pyro dps. I already have Arle.
Arle 🗿
lol her transport is trash outside of natlan.
so many haters on mauvika and i dont see why.. im pulling for her and her weapon cuz shes pretty (❁´◡`❁)
But she could be pretty and worthy of the archon title.
@@The-hamster2471 If not mistaken almost every archon people thought they would not be good and they was completely wrong.
Because almost every archon sounded bad on paper but in practice they was incredibly overpowered.
@@Raiden-the-Goat32 oh she will be good. Great actually but her kit is quite literally dehya with high multipliers. Instead of getting a unique character we got the 69th on field dps who requires Bennett.
@@The-hamster2471 she is! in my opinion :)
@@muuffi you are completely entitled to have your own opinion. She will be meta. Just not in the way many hoped.
Her biggest upside is Xiangling's biggest downside: there's only one Xiangling and 2 sides of the abyss. So I'll just be putting her on whatever team doesn't have Xiangling. It's still a massive disappointment that she isn't more unique