Why is israels existance still debated? Why is the british mandates immigration policy from 100 years ago being discussed in 2024? Its childish. Its a country, its over. Been 76 years. Its creation was moral and by a UN vote for people alreafy living in the land, and regardless, its irreversible. Before october the 7th I thought it was about israeli policy and how it affects palestinians. I was sympathetic. Now I see its 50 shades of hamas and about the legitimacy of israeli presence. I can understand now why IDF presence in the west bank is so necessary at the moment. I didnt know we were still living in 1948
Suggestion: host a debate between destiny and col Daniel Davis on Ukraine. Can Ukraine win, should the US keep supplying Ukraine, was Biden right to approve use of ATACMS deep in Russia. Or a debate between destiny & Elica Le Bom and Zachary Foster & Aaron Mate on Israel Palestine. Which side is the main obstacle to peace, is the current conflict a genocide etc.
It has to be said, Israel indeed has probably the most extreme right government in its history, which is sad but its a reaction to the palestinian stance of "october the 7th from the river to the sea". Ben gvir has been convicted for support for t. 3rr0r!sm via rethoric, not for actions. He is indeed the most extreme minister in the historuñy of the country, yet he has not explicitly endorsed aggressions towards palest!n!an civillians. He cannot be compared to hamas
Bro is definitely not a historian. He talked about Jews violating intl law by moving to Palestine after WW1. Except there was no intl law preventing this before the end of ww2. No historian would ever make such a basic and obvious mistake. Even conquest and colonialism was seen as a legitimste way to get territory before ww2 and the UN charter. Dude has no idea what he's talking about...
Karim is being bit frustrating by focusing on some inferred actions Israel might take, and both open and hidden motives based on some quotes. Problem is that polticians say a lot of shit, and they might even have some of thier own wishes. But especially in democracy they are accountable to people and various interests in government. I mean you literally see this happening every election eveywhere that politicians can't or won't do what they said they want to do, for various reasons. It also really matters whatever these are private opinions ir actual government stance
I can not understand why Destiny is still being invited to debate this topic. A man who couldn't point to Israel on a map 2 years ago now thinks he's an expert. He is beyond ignorant and slightly evil.
@Alex-rq4eu He absolutely does not. It just sounds like he does to people more ignorant than him. He could not locate Gaza or Israel on a map 2 years ago. He claims nobody supports South Africas genocide allegations at the ICJ whereas most countries do. He is unbelievably ignorant and slightly evil.
@johnleoks7642 yes, he jumped on the bandwagon since October 7th knowing nothing of the conflict. Now he presents himself as some kind of expert. To stupid people, he might sound informed, but to the rest of us, he's a joke.
"the war of israeli independence" why is he using terms that are only used by israelis? this is like calling ww2 the Great Patriotic War its a term only used by russians. you know that someone got an agneda when they use terms like that.
Dave Smith already got ass slapped by destiny on piers Morgan irl. We already know how that fight will go, that's why Dave runs and hides at every opportunity for the past 2 years until recently. 😂
i remember destiny reading Wikipedia articles on stream and learning basic things about the conflict a week after oct 7 happened. and now we're supposed to consider him an expert? that just shows you you don't need to be knowledgeable just spew nonsense confidently and some people would believe you.
@@jsk1429 6:28 literally the first thing he said in his opening statement is false 😂 their slogan literally was "a land without a people to a people without a land". and then went to justify the extreme statements because the other side was violent but he would never give the same courtesy to the Palestinians.
@@azouitinesaad3856the flag of jihad will fly above the white house one day. The apostates will pay inshallah. America will become a muslim country mark my words
Why is israels existance still debated? Why is the british mandates immigration policy from 100 years ago being discussed in 2024? Its childish. Its a country, its over. Been 76 years. Its creation was moral and by a UN vote for people alreafy living in the land, and regardless, its irreversible. Before october the 7th I thought it was about israeli policy and how it affects palestinians. I was sympathetic. Now I see its 50 shades of hamas and about the legitimacy of israeli presence. I can understand now why IDF presence in the west bank is so necessary at the moment. I didnt know we were still living in 1948
True. A huge number of Palestinians have never moved forward at all from 1948, even though most of their parents weren’t even born then.
Pseudo states have feelings too
Jep, the Palestinians have been taken hostage by Hamas and still living as if ww2 never ended. Nothing to discuss when people refuse their defeat.
Suggestion: host a debate between destiny and col Daniel Davis on Ukraine. Can Ukraine win, should the US keep supplying Ukraine, was Biden right to approve use of ATACMS deep in Russia.
Or a debate between destiny & Elica Le Bom and Zachary Foster & Aaron Mate on Israel Palestine. Which side is the main obstacle to peace, is the current conflict a genocide etc.
Ukraine can win and Biden should've approved the deep strikes since 2022.
There you go.
It has to be said, Israel indeed has probably the most extreme right government in its history, which is sad but its a reaction to the palestinian stance of "october the 7th from the river to the sea". Ben gvir has been convicted for support for t. 3rr0r!sm via rethoric, not for actions. He is indeed the most extreme minister in the historuñy of the country, yet he has not explicitly endorsed aggressions towards palest!n!an civillians. He cannot be compared to hamas
Dr. Atassi is more akin to a historian of the region than an analyst of conflict at the present moment. This debate was a mismatch
@@flandergenetics5294 lol.
Bro is definitely not a historian. He talked about Jews violating intl law by moving to Palestine after WW1.
Except there was no intl law preventing this before the end of ww2. No historian would ever make such a basic and obvious mistake.
Even conquest and colonialism was seen as a legitimste way to get territory before ww2 and the UN charter. Dude has no idea what he's talking about...
Then he is a horribly uninformed historian.
Debate Nick Fuentes on this issue. Of course you won't because hes "antisemite". Lol
Karim is being bit frustrating by focusing on some inferred actions Israel might take, and both open and hidden motives based on some quotes.
Problem is that polticians say a lot of shit, and they might even have some of thier own wishes. But especially in democracy they are accountable to people and various interests in government. I mean you literally see this happening every election eveywhere that politicians can't or won't do what they said they want to do, for various reasons. It also really matters whatever these are private opinions ir actual government stance
Poor Arabs, so innocent and pure.
Why is everything is happening to them.
mwah😢😢😢
Destiny school'd him
I can not understand why Destiny is still being invited to debate this topic. A man who couldn't point to Israel on a map 2 years ago now thinks he's an expert. He is beyond ignorant and slightly evil.
He's either being paid or just needs content 😂
Destiny knows more about this conflict than most people.
Oh wow 2 years ago. That really changes things then.
@Alex-rq4eu He absolutely does not. It just sounds like he does to people more ignorant than him. He could not locate Gaza or Israel on a map 2 years ago. He claims nobody supports South Africas genocide allegations at the ICJ whereas most countries do. He is unbelievably ignorant and slightly evil.
@johnleoks7642 yes, he jumped on the bandwagon since October 7th knowing nothing of the conflict. Now he presents himself as some kind of expert. To stupid people, he might sound informed, but to the rest of us, he's a joke.
"the war of israeli independence" why is he using terms that are only used by israelis? this is like calling ww2 the Great Patriotic War its a term only used by russians. you know that someone got an agneda when they use terms like that.
They are not the most studied lol. Dave Smith can run circles around them. Destiny is a man baby.
Dave Smith 🤣🤣🤣 dude thinks if your Israel or US you shouldn’t be allowed to have a foreign policy or defense
why does dave smith turn quiet when he's on an irl panel with destiny on piers morgan?
Dave Smith is a story teller. That is all.
Dave Smith already got ass slapped by destiny on piers Morgan irl.
We already know how that fight will go, that's why Dave runs and hides at every opportunity for the past 2 years until recently. 😂
i remember destiny reading Wikipedia articles on stream and learning basic things about the conflict a week after oct 7 happened. and now we're supposed to consider him an expert? that just shows you you don't need to be knowledgeable just spew nonsense confidently and some people would believe you.
These have to be bot comment sections can u name a single thing he said wrong
@@jsk1429 6:28 literally the first thing he said in his opening statement is false 😂 their slogan literally was "a land without a people to a people without a land". and then went to justify the extreme statements because the other side was violent but he would never give the same courtesy to the Palestinians.
@@azouitinesaad3856the flag of jihad will fly above the white house one day. The apostates will pay inshallah. America will become a muslim country mark my words
Yeah. He comes from a neutral standpoint, not emotional, and bases his opinion on facts. Most "wxperts" have an agenda and an emotional bias
@@azouitinesaad3856bullshit
Destiny speaks so quick and mumbles his words incoherently. How is he a famous streamer.
Skill issue
boring
God bless Mossad