Hi my name is Walt Wilder I'm glad I seen your video I was fixing to buy a Winnebago you change my mind for me thank you very much you have a blessed day this is Walt
I just decided on Minnie about a month ago after 6 months of research and was about to begin the dealer visits. I hate it you had such problems, but you saved me from them. The search continues.
I bought a new "Minnie" in 2014 with no problems at all in over 8 years and over 33 trips. I have reviewed the Minnies a couple times, and I have noticed that the latest ones are of much lesser quality and much higher prices than what we bought when Winnebago first started making these trailers. I would not buy another Winnebago, and you have strongly confirmed what I have already suspected. Guess I'll keep what I have. If it ain't broke ... don't fix it. Good luck with yours, now that you've fixed it. Thanks for sharing.
MR. JIM, What an entertaining video. Much like a lot of people I always thought Winnebago to be one of the best units on the road. They MAY have BEEN, but now I can see they are probably like many other manufacturers, profit,profit profit. Just churn them out boys. NO QUALITY CONTROL. Thanks Jim, I'm looking elsewhere.
I have a 2018 1706FB. I've been living in it full time for almost 3 years. I feel your pain. Out of your list the only issue I didn't have was the leaking windows. This was my first travel trailer and I learned very quickly in the first year what it's all about. I tightened every screw or bolt that I could access. I also, replaced all of the wire nuts I could find with the new Wago lever nuts. 50% of their wire nuts came off with a slight tug. Now that I've basically memorized the wiring and system operations I'm finally happy with my rig. If I had to guess, they don't offer any manuals so most folks will be forced to take their rig to the dealer for $150 per hour labor. Not me, I'll solve it myself. Safe travels.
From what I have been seeing no one makes a good camper. They all have problems with cheap parts and bad builds. I want one but I really don't know if I will get one now.
Thank you so much for making this video. I was considering this very trailer and now Winnebago can go pound sand. I hope your video keeps others from buying from this company. You should send them the link to your video.
Great review. You had me “snort laughing” in parts. We’ve just bought our 4th trailer (over 10 years we upsized a couple of times and are now going back to an 18’). We seriously considered a Winnebago mini. Thank Goodness for your review and we have dodged that bullet (we’ve bought a Nash instead). Much appreciation to you.
Great video. Your disdain and dry humor crack me up. I've only had a few of the issues you pointed out. The solar thing is what I was really wondering about though. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm planning on doing some boondocking on a hunting trip coming up.
thank you for this video on the 1808. my wife and I were planning to purchase a micro minnie but thanks to your video i will not be buying a winnebago now. once again thank you.
A priceless rundown of the issues you've encountered Jim, but at a cost. I just spent the last day or so looking into purchasing a new Winnebago Hike 215HS, but after watching a few YT vids about that model and yours, I'm out. Thanks, Jim. I hope your next trailer buying experience is a better one. Winnebago, I hope you're watching these users' reviews, and I hope you learn something. Much like Jim and his area of expertise, my career experience in Quality Assurance fully qualifies me to make the determination that you are selling these trailers by name alone, and not by your quality standards. Selling such sub-standard products, with inherent problems such as what Jim has experienced, is unconscionable. Especially when a good majority of your unsuspecting customers are at or near retirement and unknowingly dishing out 30K plus of their hard-earned savings on junk.
I gotta tell you folks. Winnebago, Forest River ( they make Rockwood Geo Pro and many others) , Coleman, Jayco are all crap with build quality. They literally shake apart in the first few months. The torsion axles do 2 things. They shake the heck out of cabin and the axels are prone to failure ( the rubber innards of the axle that twists and flexes works as suspension fails) . The build quality is already sub par and compounded with pandemic issues including material shortages. Across the board they're all building light weight TT's to meet the demand and they look extremely attractive and offer lots of cool stuff well placed and thought out. Things to expect as an RV owner now; The drawers and cabinetry will fall apart, the plumbing hoses will come apart/fail/leak, wire connections will loosen, A huge one known to happen with Rockwood Geo Pro is the entire cabin structure becoming unbolted from the trailer chassis! , sliders will fail and those cool solid step stairs that fold into the doorway will be a PITA. ;)
Welcome to rving.most company's have the same problems they are built with cheap labor parts .cheap unskilled later. And run by uncaring staff.dont forget about the lying sales people . And the poorly run service department. With people who I don't even trust washing my rv. I'm am going to build my next trailer my self. With all the knowledge I have leaned fixing my store bought Riggs.
Awesome review! Sorry you've had sooooooo many problems. Wish I'd seen this before I bought a 2100BH in the spring. Only used it 6 nights so far, but I can already see little things like wallpaper coming off and construction debris behind panels. If I had seen this previously it's likely Winnebago would have come off the table.
I got 2018 micro Minnie 2100bh. Very poor quality and cheaply built. I had many problems too. My brake away melted off instead of rusting like this guys shows. Awning seized up. Lucky I had my tools. Slide out is now kicking off to one side. Ceiling is now at sagging down and looks terrible from nails letting go. Only one brake works now which just locks up. Wheel bearing shaft looks terrible too, bad machineing job. Water heater controller gave up. Only thing goin for it is it’s weight
Great job on the detail review but you should consider yourself lucky because your trailer still intact. My Forest River R-pod fell apart completely in less than 2 years. Main frame break apart, water leak on walls, floor slump, and almost everything broken. At least you have all the major structure in good and safe condition. So don't feel bad about your winnebago because the whole US RV industry are using cheap materials to build and sell at relatively lower price.
I'm absolutely shocked and extremely dismayed by the multitude of fairly serious problems your new Winnebago had! This video may literally make me stop considering Winnebago products altogether. Thank you for informing the public about the TRUTH of Winnebago's horrible workmanship!
Lmao!!! You had me rolling!!!... What's not so funny is that my 2018 Coleman LR (bought new) has the same problems and same hardware! From the awning to the end caps to the vent that pops with each breeze to the leftover "junk" under the bottom drawers and rain that leaked on my Amazon bed. I kinda lucked out tho cause mine came with an owner's manual. Just, you have to have a Master's degree to understand it all! I wonder if Coleman and Winnebago are the same company 😮😂 So, while on my mission to shop for a new trailer for 2022, I came across your video. Thanks so much for the laugh!
I am in the process to buy this product, thank you for your tips I will start looking in a different direction, now I start looking at reviews and definitely this is not good. Thank you again.
I have a 2019 Winnebago Minnie Travel Trailer 2500FL, and in 3.5 years I have had 4 times the problems that I have on my Jayco Travel Trailer that I had for 7 years. Every time that I go camping there is a new problem. The red color faded quickly badly under the Southwest sun (in about 1 year). I will never buy a Winnebago again.
Sad to hear about all those issues on a new trailer. I'm little nervous buying any trailer now. Might have to do like so many on UA-cam and convert a cargo trailer that way if anything goes wrong I have nobody to blame but myself..plus save thousands of dollars for more beer.. cheers 🍻
I have a 2015 1706FB and your video shows that WB has just gotten worse. I can attest to a number of your complaints. In addition ours has suffered delam under the entry side bedroom window and the decals have faded to white sheets of vinyl. My most recent repair is to replace the rear skylight/vents then scrape and reflow all the joints and fixtures with self leveling caulk because they have cracked due to sun damage. I concur on the mattress, leaky basement doors, and rotting paneling there, stabbing window, stove heat, vent lamp, shaky table mount . Also the AC is so oversized that it actually humidifies as it over cools and creates such a large positive pressure that it will push out the stabbing window if it isn't secured and runs with such loud noise that you cannot sleep with it on. I desperately searched for a way to tame that beast, but just gave up in despair. We don't use the trailer when the nights are so warm that AC is necessary. We live in Florida so that rules out most of the year. Next up time to replace the dry rotted tires. Don't get me started on the field mouse damage to the hated AC unit.
I feel your pain! Our 2021 micro Minnie, has had endless problems in less than 5 months. The last straw was the slide that was falling apart and barely went out, leaving us without access to the bathroom. The dealer hasn’t been much help, and we are in the process of trading for a no slide.
Not all slides use the same system. After owning a few campers with slides we could never go without them. Our current camper is all hydraulic slides and many say that is far more trouble than all electric, but still working great and our camper is 21yrs old and unless previous owner lied, that system is the orginal.
@@FunkMasterJunk @CAVOK have you checked all those with positive reviews? Will you allow one or two bad reviews to steer you away? All brands have issues. Btw not released for public yet, but Winnebago just built a special trailer for Traveling Robert with some items for him to test that I think most will want as standard equipment, like an a/c that is quiet and can be run off the battery. The biggest factor on any brand is what dealer you buy from and do they work with you after sale.
@@forry100 not at all. To be honest, I have seen more negative then positive in my research. I was surprised given the brand name. My Father in law, up until 5 years ago was still running his vintage Winnebago Brave Motor home. It never leaked, never had the cabinets come apart and was still solid. But, from the research I have done, the brand doesent seem to be what it used to be. I've also discovered the company is leaving customers in the cold when it comes to warranties as well. Like I said, I was disappointed to see this, given this was the first trailer that kind of fit the bill for us. You're correct, I have also found out in my research that none of the manufactures high-end or low are perfect in the industry. But with poor build quality and poor Q.A, I'm not sure I want to put my hard earned money into a product that everyone has come to accept poor craftsmanship and bad customer service. I want an R.V to escape and relax, not fix and fight with people.
@@FunkMasterJunk on 5th wheel side Alliance has good response, but also fighting OA issues and they were considered to be the best and a game changer for a new company, but their reviews are slipping. While I can not afford it the only one I truly trust is New Horizons, but way out of my budget. I love everything but bedroom height in my 2000 NuWa Hitch Hiker. Back to Winnebago, Traveling Robert had great success with his last trailer and he is allowed to speak honestly about the good and bad. I know if Winnebago makes some of the things part of their build that are test items on the trailer he just took delivery of they will be ahead of most others. Per negatives, they will always out number the positive, people love to complain, but rarely give praise. I still think most issues regardless of brand depends on what dealer you dealt with. A few great ones, a few more good ones, but most dealers suck, take your money and shove you out the door and end of taking care of you. Starting to think the fastest to service and ones that stay on the top are all located near the manufacturers, think they know they must do good. Good luck in your search.
Anyone who buys a new trailer from a dealer right now is "getting shafted". All of the problems come directly from the manufacturer, and the dealers have no time to fix them before delivery, because they are too busy fixing warranty items from last month's "fool"! One should buy a 2 year old RV from a private party who has already gone to the trouble and time to FIX everything that could go wrong. Thereby, you will be getting a working unit at HALF the msrp of the new one. That depreciation figure alone speaks to the quality of what is coming out of Indiana and it's unregulated RV industry! BTW, this goes DOUBLY for the "high end" brands, which come out of the same garbage in garbage out factories.
I was just starting to consider the purchase of one of these for retirement. You've talked me out of it. We would not deal well with even 2 of these problems. We will continue using hotels.
Bumper cap fix. Drill a 3/16" hole through the bumper and cap...top and bottom. Cut 6" of hanger wire and bend a 90 degree about 1" down from 1 end. Drop the wire through the holes from the top. I've not lost a cap since doing this.
I saw a comment on another video about trash being left behind in their unit & it’d messed the heater up. Im surprised to hear this about this company. Its amazing that these things are so cheaply made but everybody wants one
Sorry about all Of the problems. I have a 2018 2108DS and have only had a couple of issues, nothing like the problems you mentioned. So far only two minor leaks that were fixed. It did have an issue with the kitchen sink drain coming loose once and the valence over the dining room table fell down but was put back up by my dealer at no cost. I have been generally pleased with the overall quality of the trailer but I realize that given the nature of a light weight trailer it is not going to be built like a Sherman tank. I looked at a lot of trailers before I purchased mine and for the money I felt the Micro Minnie was the best deal. I do agree with some of the observations like the reversal of the light switches, the awning that needs to be opened to dry out, the quality of the cushions not being as good as they could be, and the lack of fire wall on the side wall next to the stove. There are some design features there that need to be improved. I am sure that there things I have over looked or come to live with that might irritate some people but not everyone. I have not taken my trailer on any long trips but have spent about 5 weeks of camping in it over the last two years and think I have most of the bugs worked out. There are a few improvements I am planning to make like putting up a firewall in the kitchen, adding a couple of hangers in the bathroom and putting in a new shower head. Of course, we all have our own experiences and opinions so before you buy a trailer be sure to do a lot of research and choose one that best fits your needs.
Very well said , I have a 2108DS and live in mine full time( sold my house and travel) , mine is holding up extremely well. I'm sorry for him, but I love mine.
Good reply. I totally agree with the poster, about not having a fire-wall/heat deflector on the wall that houses the Fridge. Ours (2018 1706FB) is that way as well. We took care of that ourselves for minimal cost. We also take the time to place a large flat garbage bag with two sand-bag made weights to have it drape down the bathroom sink cabinet, facing our shower stall. This way, if any water does splash or escape our closed shower curtain, it will not wet the sink top, or facing cabinet wall...and no water ingress/bloat, delaminating will occur. Takes all of 30 seconds to just take the bag out of the cabinet bottom, hang the garbage bag body off of the top and cabinet, and hold it down onto the sink top, with those two plastic sand bags. We have had no water touch the top surface, or cabinet, in doing this. Just stuff we thought to do...and oh...a suggestion to everybody...before travelling, take our your Microwave GLASS ROTATING PLATTER, and pull your bed covers back, and place it on your mattress, then putting your blanket or comforter back over to make the bed. Leave a pre-made note stating that the Glass Platter is under the covers, to remind you of that fact, and that will prevent (in transit) the chance that the Microwave door will open up, and the Glass Platter come crashing down to the trailer floor. This has indeed happened to some, who have posted their experience, and solution to never have this happen, or happen again. Just stuff, you learn....:)
Jim, like many we are sorry to hear about your problems with your Winnebago TT. My wife and I bought a 2018 2108DS Micro Mini after looking at various models and options for a couple of years and have also had our share of problems with our purchase, leaks, electrical issues, etc. Two summers ago when checking the brakes I discovered the wheel bearings had an absolute minimum amount of grease applied to them by the factory, almost criminal. As has been mentioned here and in comments elsewhere the industry basically produces junk, some worse than others. I have spoken to a couple of Airstream owners who have had serious issues with their trailers so no one is immune to these problems. From what I have read sales of towables have been just going crazy recently, looser manufacturing standards? more junk? more unhappy customers? I guess we will see. One thing that isn't said is that you really have to be able to work on your vehicle because things WILL go wrong or have very deep pockets to make this a viable pass time. Two companies that just may be the best are Nash and Lance but are very expensive new, not to bad used. Best of luck in the New Year ....... Regards from Canada, Linda and Ivan. PS. We got a manual and it's about as bad as you can imagine.
I have a 2020 1706fb bought it in 2019 the awning still does not work right the dealer could not find the problem quit trying to fix it. Heater quite working several times lots of water leaks inside at the fittings. the dealer does not carry any parts for the towable
If you look up who makes most of the trailers these days they are all basically the same. The only trailer I have found to be made with any quality is the black series campers.
Oh man. We’re shopping for trailers and the micro was on the list but this scares me. Thanks for the video. Airstream was too pricey but boy does the quality look better.
Sorry you got screwed, Winnebago is off my list. I see most brands are the same and a lot don’t honor their warranties either. The only good one I can actually find is Taylor Coach in Canada, if you order ( custom made from them only) one now you won’t get it till September of 2024. Rockwood is a possibility I’m still checking on them.
This video had some great information on what to look for as we are looking to purchase a new mini trailer. But, WOW!! Sorry you have to deal with this.
Dude, you really need to make more videos. Great, funny and informative. I won't be buying a Micro Minnie but I am looking for something. This gives me the opportunity to look over the rig more for these potential malfunctions. thanks!
@@robinsyverson967 You should look at the public owner reviews on Lance. Everything since they were bought out is just doubly priced problems. They are living off of the quality name that sadly is no more. As this channel has posted previously, there really are very few quality builders anymore, especially since the pandemic induced RV boom.
Ditto Jennifer K! Does anyone have opinions on the Forest River No-Bo’s? My understanding is that Warren Buffet/Berkshire Hathaway conglomeration, which to me has an aura of AMF Harley-Davidson’s from the 70’s, may be cost containing/profit maximizing them into the toilet as well
Thank you Jim! I have a 2019 Micro Minnie and the water circulation system leaks at almost every single junction. I’ve replaced almost every original pex pipe and hose clamp between the city input and the pump. Every single hose clamp came loose after 2 years (still clamped on, but no longer a watertight seal). You must have hit this problem by now… the one leaky thing I can’t reach is fresh water tank itself, it’s covered in foam, so I’ve just shut off the line between the pump and the fresh water and just leave the fresh water drain in the open position (since I don’t want to dig down and fix those seals). It’s probably better to give up on the fresh water tank, since the pump was always getting stuck in the “feed water to fresh tank” mode, even when I didn’t want it to… So many problems with the water system! Did you hit these yet yourself?
I have had many of the same problems with my 2021 2106DS. Another one I have found to be extremely annoying is if you have a flat and change out the spare tire the regular wheel will not fit on the spare tire carrier, WTF?
We were on a road trip, I saw this older gentleman get out of his toyota tacoma pickup with a nice looking pop up camper. I wander over to him and ask if he is busy, no no no I am retired how can I help you? I was curious about your camper. He opens it up, and it is all obviously home made cabinets and drawers. Oh wow I like what you did, do you like this brand of camper? He was a Canadian fella from BC and stated the most accurate thing ever, "they are all shit, just shit, yank everything out and start over." At the time I thought this guy needs to switch to decaf not everyday you meet a Canadian who is overtly grumpy and such! WRONG! I decided I should try this out. I bought an Outfitter camper for our truck, when I went to remodel some stuff due to what I assumed was years of use? Nope, it was just full of stupid. Know how normal people put screws into studs? Not here bro! Just be off by a couple inches, into air. So when you go to dig around in there HELLO TETANUS! My wife didn't know I could swear as much as I did doing that stuff. I wasn't an engineer, I was an instrument tech for a long time, went to school to be an aviation mechanic, and when you said that you were an engineer for 30 years? I just went, yep.
@@The_End_of_Sanity Yeah I've been doing some research before I buy, and learned the same thing. I also read that there's a high turn over when it comes to employment at both parent companies. An airstream and Bigfoot are out of my budget unfortunately.
I started watching and it felt like the twilight zone because I have a 2018 Minnie with all the same issues. I bought it based on the name too so buyers beware.... the name means nothing. In addition to these issues... I lost my main circuit board that runs the gas heater after my 2nd trip out. Black tank valve is stuck shut and rod won’t go in or out. Most all the blinds pulled out of the walls, and on and on and on. This sounds like a lawsuit to me, so let me know if you decide to do anything.. I am exhausted fixing issues and I have been out 5 times total.
Great information. Most of them I would blame Winnebego, but some of them like the bumper end cap maybe not their fault. The garbage in hidden places are disgusting.
Welcome to the world of RVs. RVs are just built cheap. All of them. The only variable is which item on your RV will give you problems compared to another person. They're built light to be towed easily but the wear and tear due to roads and bumps will take their toll. Most people can find plenty of problems with their home... and the home is stationary. I'm not trying to downplay workmanship but RVs are like owning a home. Both are a money pit.
I've come to the realization that MOST if not ALL travel trailers are built so cheaply that as the rolling earthquakes that they are NOTHING is worth the money 💰 the manufacturers are asking for them... seriously 25K and that many problems is just shear crap 💩... truly 15K in materials and I could build a TANK of a travel trailer... in FACT that's now my. Plan
Yeah I had a 2017 Winnebago Minnie Micro too and your issues are similar to what I had. Very poor quality and they've used some of the cheapest components they could find. Also you're kind of lucky that the mattress sagged. Mine it not only sagged but one night it collapsed. They used a balsa like wood as the support on the bottom and used staple gun which gave way. Worst of issue was cheap clamp used for water pump gave way and started leaking and caused water damage to bathroom door and walls around the furnace vent. And guess what? Electrical distribution panel is right where the water pump was and leakage occurred, don't believe me? Go to the dealer and ask them where the water pump is. Take your time when shopping around for RV or Travel Trailer.
Wow, I was seriously considering getting a Micro Minnie (one of my top two choices) but this definitely makes me reconsider. I feel like Winnebago should just give you a new trailer since this one is clearly faulty. But then again, would you really except another one...lol
Wow 25k. That’s a lot of coin. The RV world knows there are no lemon laws for their products. Therefore, they are protected and quality becomes an idea of the past, unless one buys an Airstream or a high end unit like that. Then you pay through the nose. Also, an rv is made up of a lot of parts manufactured by a lot of different companies. This leads to issues with tolerances, wiring, fitment and so on and so forth. My travel trailer was one of my biggest financial mistakes ever. Thanks for the video and I will not buy another rv ever. I might build my own.
Well back to looking at Jayco and the Wolf Pup. I wouldn't touch a Winnebago now. Thank you for the heads up. More videos like this are required. Hopefully the company can put their big boy underwear on and compensate you and it looks like many others in your position. Winnebego own up to your issues or go broke please.
Jim, OMG your video is timely. I am travel trailer shopping and discovered the Winnebago Mini line just recently. I liked the size and thought Winnebago would be a quality unit but your video is a killer for me. Of all the problems you show the pipe cut at a 45 degree angle and the industrial trash in the hidden locations is the most telling for me of poor quality. Where is the factory located? There must be some unskilled labor and poor quality control processes at that factory. Dan
Couldn't agree more Dan. I actually visited a dealership several weeks ago and emailed them about purchasing the Micro Minnie today! Before they responded I thought I would check UA-cam one more time and stumbled upon this. While I understand the industry is plagued with quality problems, the fact they allow this to continue is criminal.
I have watched this twice and can’t stop laughing. I definitely don’t want a Winnebago but I do want to buy you a beer. Please make more videos! This was amazing!
Interesting no rep from Winnabago commented with any kind of rebuttal on your video. I am sure they have folks who monitor Utube in relation to there products. This video will surely dissuade folks from considering the Winnabago Micro Mini. I been looking at the Winnabago Micro Mini & Rockwood Mini Lite. Well the Winnabago Micro Mini is off the list now. I guess the demand for Rv's trumps quality control, just get them out. Appreciate your brutally honest review @ the expense of your frustrating experience. I recently sold my Winnabago Navion Class C that I had for many years, with 0 issues, however it was at a much different price point.
I want to have a beer with you after just hearing all this winnebago nonsense. They're very unthoughtful folks, unlike this man who thought to warn us before making the same mistake purchasing a micro minnie whiney-bag-O-shhhhh... well, you know! Thanks man!!!
Hi my name is Walt Wilder I'm glad I seen your video I was fixing to buy a Winnebago you change my mind for me thank you very much you have a blessed day this is Walt
Omg!!!o loved your sense of humor!! And thank you! You made one less client for Winnebago!! I'm not buying this thing anymore!!
Thank-you for your review; I was actually thinking of buying a Winnebago Micro Minnie, but I guess you've changed my thinking! Thank-you so much!
I just decided on Minnie about a month ago after 6 months of research and was about to begin the dealer visits. I hate it you had such problems, but you saved me from them. The search continues.
I have a micro Minnie and will never buy Winnibego again. The fact that there is no manual drives me nuts. UA-cam videos saved me many times.
I bought a new "Minnie" in 2014 with no problems at all in over 8 years and over 33 trips. I have reviewed the Minnies a couple times, and I have noticed that the latest ones are of much lesser quality and much higher prices than what we bought when Winnebago first started making these trailers. I would not buy another Winnebago, and you have strongly confirmed what I have already suspected. Guess I'll keep what I have. If it ain't broke ... don't fix it. Good luck with yours, now that you've fixed it. Thanks for sharing.
This is probably the most useful, practical review I have ever seen. You saved me $25k and a world of frustration. Thank you.
Stumbled across this while trying to fix my 2022 micro minnie. Again. Nothing has changed.
LOL! This was funny and sad all at the same time.
WOW !! THANKS FOR VIDIEO . I was thinking on winnebago flx and at 57000 bucks I don't think SO!
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Lettering so close to ‘Wine ago’ which could have perhaps explained SOME of the manufacturing.
MR. JIM,
What an entertaining video. Much like a lot of people I always thought Winnebago to be one of the best units on the road. They MAY have BEEN, but now I can see they are probably like many other manufacturers, profit,profit profit. Just churn them out boys. NO QUALITY CONTROL.
Thanks Jim, I'm looking elsewhere.
Holy Shit Dude, I'm so sorry...
I have a 2018 1706FB. I've been living in it full time for almost 3 years. I feel your pain. Out of your list the only issue I didn't have was the leaking windows. This was my first travel trailer and I learned very quickly in the first year what it's all about. I tightened every screw or bolt that I could access. I also, replaced all of the wire nuts I could find with the new Wago lever nuts. 50% of their wire nuts came off with a slight tug. Now that I've basically memorized the wiring and system operations I'm finally happy with my rig. If I had to guess, they don't offer any manuals so most folks will be forced to take their rig to the dealer for $150 per hour labor. Not me, I'll solve it myself. Safe travels.
Thank you for this, I will look elsewhere for my camper. I know nothing is perfect but wow, way to many problems !
From what I have been seeing no one makes a good camper. They all have problems with cheap parts and bad builds. I want one but I really don't know if I will get one now.
Thank you so much for making this video. I was considering this very trailer and now Winnebago can go pound sand. I hope your video keeps others from buying from this company. You should send them the link to your video.
Great review. You had me “snort laughing” in parts. We’ve just bought our 4th trailer (over 10 years we upsized a couple of times and are now going back to an 18’). We seriously considered a Winnebago mini. Thank Goodness for your review and we have dodged that bullet (we’ve bought a Nash instead). Much appreciation to you.
How is the Nash working out for you?
Great video. Your disdain and dry humor crack me up. I've only had a few of the issues you pointed out. The solar thing is what I was really wondering about though. Thank you for pointing that out. I'm planning on doing some boondocking on a hunting trip coming up.
thank you for this video on the 1808. my wife and I were planning to purchase a micro minnie but thanks to your video i will not be buying a winnebago now. once again thank you.
Holy cow this made me happy we bought our Airstream in 2016. Five years and thousands of miles with two kids and the dog and not a single problem.
A priceless rundown of the issues you've encountered Jim, but at a cost. I just spent the last day or so looking into purchasing a new Winnebago Hike 215HS, but after watching a few YT vids about that model and yours, I'm out.
Thanks, Jim. I hope your next trailer buying experience is a better one.
Winnebago, I hope you're watching these users' reviews, and I hope you learn something. Much like Jim and his area of expertise, my career experience in Quality Assurance fully qualifies me to make the determination that you are selling these trailers by name alone, and not by your quality standards. Selling such sub-standard products, with inherent problems such as what Jim has experienced, is unconscionable. Especially when a good majority of your unsuspecting customers are at or near retirement and unknowingly dishing out 30K plus of their hard-earned savings on junk.
I gotta tell you folks. Winnebago, Forest River ( they make Rockwood Geo Pro and many others) , Coleman, Jayco are all crap with build quality. They literally shake apart in the first few months. The torsion axles do 2 things. They shake the heck out of cabin and the axels are prone to failure ( the rubber innards of the axle that twists and flexes works as suspension fails) . The build quality is already sub par and compounded with pandemic issues including material shortages. Across the board they're all building light weight TT's to meet the demand and they look extremely attractive and offer lots of cool stuff well placed and thought out. Things to expect as an RV owner now; The drawers and cabinetry will fall apart, the plumbing hoses will come apart/fail/leak, wire connections will loosen, A huge one known to happen with Rockwood Geo Pro is the entire cabin structure becoming unbolted from the trailer chassis! , sliders will fail and those cool solid step stairs that fold into the doorway will be a PITA. ;)
Welcome to rving.most company's have the same problems they are built with cheap labor parts .cheap unskilled later. And run by uncaring staff.dont forget about the lying sales people . And the poorly run service department. With people who I don't even trust washing my rv. I'm am going to build my next trailer my self. With all the knowledge I have leaned fixing my store bought Riggs.
The Winnebago Micro Minnie was at the top of my list. Not anymore.
Awesome review! Sorry you've had sooooooo many problems. Wish I'd seen this before I bought a 2100BH in the spring. Only used it 6 nights so far, but I can already see little things like wallpaper coming off and construction debris behind panels. If I had seen this previously it's likely Winnebago would have come off the table.
What year is your 2108bh?
I got 2018 micro Minnie 2100bh. Very poor quality and cheaply built. I had many problems too. My brake away melted off instead of rusting like this guys shows. Awning seized up. Lucky I had my tools. Slide out is now kicking off to one side. Ceiling is now at sagging down and looks terrible from nails letting go. Only one brake works now which just locks up. Wheel bearing shaft looks terrible too, bad machineing job. Water heater controller gave up. Only thing goin for it is it’s weight
I would have expected better from Winnebago. I guess you did to. I’m taking them off the list.
Great job on the detail review but you should consider yourself lucky because your trailer still intact. My Forest River R-pod fell apart completely in less than 2 years. Main frame break apart, water leak on walls, floor slump, and almost everything broken. At least you have all the major structure in good and safe condition. So don't feel bad about your winnebago because the whole US RV industry are using cheap materials to build and sell at relatively lower price.
I'm absolutely shocked and extremely dismayed by the multitude of fairly serious problems your new Winnebago had! This video may literally make me stop considering Winnebago products altogether. Thank you for informing the public about the TRUTH of Winnebago's horrible workmanship!
Lmao!!! You had me rolling!!!... What's not so funny is that my 2018 Coleman LR (bought new) has the same problems and same hardware! From the awning to the end caps to the vent that pops with each breeze to the leftover "junk" under the bottom drawers and rain that leaked on my Amazon bed. I kinda lucked out tho cause mine came with an owner's manual. Just, you have to have a Master's degree to understand it all! I wonder if Coleman and Winnebago are the same company 😮😂 So, while on my mission to shop for a new trailer for 2022, I came across your video. Thanks so much for the laugh!
I am in the process to buy this product, thank you for your tips I will start looking in a different direction, now I start looking at reviews and definitely this is not good. Thank you again.
I have a 2019 Winnebago Minnie Travel Trailer 2500FL, and in 3.5 years I have had 4 times the problems that I have on my Jayco Travel Trailer that I had for 7 years. Every time that I go camping there is a new problem. The red color faded quickly badly under the Southwest sun (in about 1 year). I will never buy a Winnebago again.
Sad to hear about all those issues on a new trailer. I'm little nervous buying any trailer now. Might have to do like so many on UA-cam and convert a cargo trailer that way if anything goes wrong I have nobody to blame but myself..plus save thousands of dollars for more beer.. cheers 🍻
Can I ask you where the leak by the front window, over the bed was coming from and how you fixed it. Mine is leaking there now, thank you
I have a 2015 1706FB and your video shows that WB has just gotten worse. I can attest to a number of your complaints. In addition ours has suffered delam under the entry side bedroom window and the decals have faded to white sheets of vinyl. My most recent repair is to replace the rear skylight/vents then scrape and reflow all the joints and fixtures with self leveling caulk because they have cracked due to sun damage. I concur on the mattress, leaky basement doors, and rotting paneling there, stabbing window, stove heat, vent lamp, shaky table mount . Also the AC is so oversized that it actually humidifies as it over cools and creates such a large positive pressure that it will push out the stabbing window if it isn't secured and runs with such loud noise that you cannot sleep with it on. I desperately searched for a way to tame that beast, but just gave up in despair. We don't use the trailer when the nights are so warm that AC is necessary. We live in Florida so that rules out most of the year.
Next up time to replace the dry rotted tires. Don't get me started on the field mouse damage to the hated AC unit.
I feel your pain! Our 2021 micro Minnie, has had endless problems in less than 5 months. The last straw was the slide that was falling apart and barely went out, leaving us without access to the bathroom. The dealer hasn’t been much help, and we are in the process of trading for a no slide.
Not all slides use the same system. After owning a few campers with slides we could never go without them. Our current camper is all hydraulic slides and many say that is far more trouble than all electric, but still working great and our camper is 21yrs old and unless previous owner lied, that system is the orginal.
Thx for that. We are looking at this trailer in 2021. We like the floor plan and liked the brand, but not anymore.
@@FunkMasterJunk @CAVOK have you checked all those with positive reviews? Will you allow one or two bad reviews to steer you away? All brands have issues. Btw not released for public yet, but Winnebago just built a special trailer for Traveling Robert with some items for him to test that I think most will want as standard equipment, like an a/c that is quiet and can be run off the battery. The biggest factor on any brand is what dealer you buy from and do they work with you after sale.
@@forry100 not at all. To be honest, I have seen more negative then positive in my research. I was surprised given the brand name. My Father in law, up until 5 years ago was still running his vintage Winnebago Brave Motor home. It never leaked, never had the cabinets come apart and was still solid. But, from the research I have done, the brand doesent seem to be what it used to be. I've also discovered the company is leaving customers in the cold when it comes to warranties as well.
Like I said, I was disappointed to see this, given this was the first trailer that kind of fit the bill for us. You're correct, I have also found out in my research that none of the manufactures high-end or low are perfect in the industry. But with poor build quality and poor Q.A, I'm not sure I want to put my hard earned money into a product that everyone has come to accept poor craftsmanship and bad customer service. I want an R.V to escape and relax, not fix and fight with people.
@@FunkMasterJunk on 5th wheel side Alliance has good response, but also fighting OA issues and they were considered to be the best and a game changer for a new company, but their reviews are slipping. While I can not afford it the only one I truly trust is New Horizons, but way out of my budget. I love everything but bedroom height in my 2000 NuWa Hitch Hiker. Back to Winnebago, Traveling Robert had great success with his last trailer and he is allowed to speak honestly about the good and bad. I know if Winnebago makes some of the things part of their build that are test items on the trailer he just took delivery of they will be ahead of most others. Per negatives, they will always out number the positive, people love to complain, but rarely give praise. I still think most issues regardless of brand depends on what dealer you dealt with. A few great ones, a few more good ones, but most dealers suck, take your money and shove you out the door and end of taking care of you. Starting to think the fastest to service and ones that stay on the top are all located near the manufacturers, think they know they must do good. Good luck in your search.
Considering these units are close to 40k$ in Canada,I'm glad I seen this video
Thanks for sparing me the aggravation! I’m looking for a TT to live in f/t.
Anyone who buys a new trailer from a dealer right now is "getting shafted". All of the problems come directly from the manufacturer, and the dealers have no time to fix them before delivery, because they are too busy fixing warranty items from last month's "fool"!
One should buy a 2 year old RV from a private party who has already gone to the trouble and time to FIX everything that could go wrong. Thereby, you will be getting a working unit at HALF the msrp of the new one. That depreciation figure alone speaks to the quality of what is coming out of Indiana and it's unregulated RV industry!
BTW, this goes DOUBLY for the "high end" brands, which come out of the same garbage in garbage out factories.
I was just starting to consider the purchase of one of these for retirement. You've talked me out of it. We would not deal well with even 2 of these problems. We will continue using hotels.
25K will buy allot of nights in a decent hotel
@@mymiataflys This is what I've been weighing on this whole RV perspective!
It's sad they make them for the shareholders and not the owners.
Thanks for the warning
The guy is so funny and in the same time so frustrated :))
After years of research went with a Rockwood MiniLite, a few issues but nowhere near that many!!!!
Bumper cap fix.
Drill a 3/16" hole through the bumper and cap...top and bottom. Cut 6" of hanger wire and bend a 90 degree about 1" down from 1 end. Drop the wire through the holes from the top.
I've not lost a cap since doing this.
Thanks for the analysis. Just getting started looking and thought Winnebago was one of the better brands. They're off our list now.
I love my 2018 Winnebago. I suggest joining the facebook Winnebago travel trailer group.
I saw a comment on another video about trash being left behind in their unit & it’d messed the heater up. Im surprised to hear this about this company. Its amazing that these things are so cheaply made but everybody wants one
Sorry about all Of the problems. I have a 2018 2108DS and have only had a couple of issues, nothing like the problems you mentioned. So far only two minor leaks that were fixed. It did have an issue with the kitchen sink drain coming loose once and the valence over the dining room table fell down but was put back up by my dealer at no cost. I have been generally pleased with the overall quality of the trailer but I realize that given the nature of a light weight trailer it is not going to be built like a Sherman tank. I looked at a lot of trailers before I purchased mine and for the money I felt the Micro Minnie was the best deal. I do agree with some of the observations like the reversal of the light switches, the awning that needs to be opened to dry out, the quality of the cushions not being as good as they could be, and the lack of fire wall on the side wall next to the stove. There are some design features there that need to be improved. I am sure that there things I have over looked or come to live with that might irritate some people but not everyone.
I have not taken my trailer on any long trips but have spent about 5 weeks of camping in it over the last two years and think I have most of the bugs worked out. There are a few improvements I am planning to make like putting up a firewall in the kitchen, adding a couple of hangers in the bathroom and putting in a new shower head.
Of course, we all have our own experiences and opinions so before you buy a trailer be sure to do a lot of research and choose one that best fits your needs.
Very well said , I have a 2108DS and live in mine full time( sold my house and travel) , mine is holding up extremely well. I'm sorry for him, but I love mine.
Good reply. I totally agree with the poster, about not having a fire-wall/heat deflector on the wall that houses the Fridge. Ours (2018 1706FB) is that way as well. We took care of that ourselves for minimal cost. We also take the time to place a large flat garbage bag with two sand-bag made weights to have it drape down the bathroom sink cabinet, facing our shower stall. This way, if any water does splash or escape our closed shower curtain, it will not wet the sink top, or facing cabinet wall...and no water ingress/bloat, delaminating will occur. Takes all of 30 seconds to just take the bag out of the cabinet bottom, hang the garbage bag body off of the top and cabinet, and hold it down onto the sink top, with those two plastic sand bags. We have had no water touch the top surface, or cabinet, in doing this. Just stuff we thought to do...and oh...a suggestion to everybody...before travelling, take our your Microwave GLASS ROTATING PLATTER, and pull your bed covers back, and place it on your mattress, then putting your blanket or comforter back over to make the bed. Leave a pre-made note stating that the Glass Platter is under the covers, to remind you of that fact, and that will prevent (in transit) the chance that the Microwave door will open up, and the Glass Platter come crashing down to the trailer floor. This has indeed happened to some, who have posted their experience, and solution to never have this happen, or happen again. Just stuff, you learn....:)
Jim, like many we are sorry to hear about your problems with your Winnebago TT. My wife and I bought a 2018 2108DS Micro Mini after looking at various models and options for a couple of years and have also had our share of problems with our purchase, leaks, electrical issues, etc. Two summers ago when checking the brakes I discovered the wheel bearings had an absolute minimum amount of grease applied to them by the factory, almost criminal. As has been mentioned here and in comments elsewhere the industry basically produces junk, some worse than others. I have spoken to a couple of Airstream owners who have had serious issues with their trailers so no one is immune to these problems. From what I have read sales of towables have been just going crazy recently, looser manufacturing standards? more junk? more unhappy customers? I guess we will see. One thing that isn't said is that you really have to be able to work on your vehicle because things WILL go wrong or have very deep pockets to make this a viable pass time. Two companies that just may be the best are Nash and Lance but are very expensive new, not to bad used. Best of luck in the New Year ....... Regards from Canada, Linda and Ivan. PS. We got a manual and it's about as bad as you can imagine.
I have a 2020 1706fb bought it in 2019 the awning still does not work right the dealer could not find the problem quit trying to fix it. Heater quite working several times lots of water leaks inside at the fittings. the dealer does not carry any parts for the towable
If you look up who makes most of the trailers these days they are all basically the same. The only trailer I have found to be made with any quality is the black series campers.
Oh man. We’re shopping for trailers and the micro was on the list but this scares me. Thanks for the video. Airstream was too pricey but boy does the quality look better.
60% of what he is complaining about has been changed or upgraded on the new 2021.5 micro models
The car is well-equipped with electric appliances and running water. How many years have you owned it?
Sorry you got screwed, Winnebago is off my list. I see most brands are the same and a lot don’t honor their warranties either. The only good one I can actually find is Taylor Coach in Canada, if you order ( custom made from them only) one now you won’t get it till September of 2024. Rockwood is a possibility I’m still checking on them.
This video had some great information on what to look for as we are looking to purchase a new mini trailer. But, WOW!! Sorry you have to deal with this.
Great Review! Thanks for helping me avert a huge mistake that was about to happen!🤭🤭🤭
Ok that's it. I'll just stay in a hotel.
Not just Winnebago; many brands such as Forest River, too.
Do you have a brand that you recommend?
I was considering the Rockwood Mini Lite, thanks for the heads up.
Dude, you really need to make more videos. Great, funny and informative. I won't be buying a Micro Minnie but I am looking for something. This gives me the opportunity to look over the rig more for these potential malfunctions. thanks!
Look at the LANCE TRAILERS
@@robinsyverson967 You should look at the public owner reviews on Lance. Everything since they were bought out is just doubly priced problems. They are living off of the quality name that sadly is no more. As this channel has posted previously, there really are very few quality builders anymore, especially since the pandemic induced RV boom.
I think you got a super lemon dude
Ditto Jennifer K! Does anyone have opinions on the Forest River No-Bo’s? My understanding is that Warren Buffet/Berkshire Hathaway conglomeration, which to me has an aura of AMF Harley-Davidson’s from the 70’s, may be cost containing/profit maximizing them into the toilet as well
Thank you Jim! I have a 2019 Micro Minnie and the water circulation system leaks at almost every single junction. I’ve replaced almost every original pex pipe and hose clamp between the city input and the pump. Every single hose clamp came loose after 2 years (still clamped on, but no longer a watertight seal). You must have hit this problem by now… the one leaky thing I can’t reach is fresh water tank itself, it’s covered in foam, so I’ve just shut off the line between the pump and the fresh water and just leave the fresh water drain in the open position (since I don’t want to dig down and fix those seals). It’s probably better to give up on the fresh water tank, since the pump was always getting stuck in the “feed water to fresh tank” mode, even when I didn’t want it to… So many problems with the water system! Did you hit these yet yourself?
I have had many of the same problems with my 2021 2106DS. Another one I have found to be extremely annoying is if you have a flat and change out the spare tire the regular wheel will not fit on the spare tire carrier, WTF?
This is an epic sales pitch! I'll never buy a Winnebago!
Great video sir!!
Wow that things a mess! I would have thought Winnebago was a trusted product also 🤔
We were on a road trip, I saw this older gentleman get out of his toyota tacoma pickup with a nice looking pop up camper. I wander over to him and ask if he is busy, no no no I am retired how can I help you? I was curious about your camper. He opens it up, and it is all obviously home made cabinets and drawers. Oh wow I like what you did, do you like this brand of camper? He was a Canadian fella from BC and stated the most accurate thing ever, "they are all shit, just shit, yank everything out and start over." At the time I thought this guy needs to switch to decaf not everyday you meet a Canadian who is overtly grumpy and such! WRONG! I decided I should try this out.
I bought an Outfitter camper for our truck, when I went to remodel some stuff due to what I assumed was years of use? Nope, it was just full of stupid. Know how normal people put screws into studs? Not here bro! Just be off by a couple inches, into air. So when you go to dig around in there HELLO TETANUS! My wife didn't know I could swear as much as I did doing that stuff.
I wasn't an engineer, I was an instrument tech for a long time, went to school to be an aviation mechanic, and when you said that you were an engineer for 30 years? I just went, yep.
i think I will think twice about buying that wreck
Thanks for your candid review, but dammit! Thought i wanted to buy one of those. Now i have to keep looking.
Are any travel trailers great quality?
@@The_End_of_Sanity Yeah I've been doing some research before I buy, and learned the same thing. I also read that there's a high turn over when it comes to employment at both parent companies. An airstream and Bigfoot are out of my budget unfortunately.
I started watching and it felt like the twilight zone because I have a 2018 Minnie with all the same issues. I bought it based on the name too so buyers beware.... the name means nothing. In addition to these issues... I lost my main circuit board that runs the gas heater after my 2nd trip out. Black tank valve is stuck shut and rod won’t go in or out. Most all the blinds pulled out of the walls, and on and on and on. This sounds like a lawsuit to me, so let me know if you decide to do anything.. I am exhausted fixing issues and I have been out 5 times total.
Great information. Most of them I would blame Winnebego, but some of them like the bumper end cap maybe not their fault. The garbage in hidden places are disgusting.
I don’t think travel trailering is in my future, if I had to deal with that much crap, I’d rather stay home.
Welcome to the world of RVs. RVs are just built cheap. All of them. The only variable is which item on your RV will give you problems compared to another person. They're built light to be towed easily but the wear and tear due to roads and bumps will take their toll. Most people can find plenty of problems with their home... and the home is stationary. I'm not trying to downplay workmanship but RVs are like owning a home. Both are a money pit.
When there's no quality control, Winnebago can mass produce garbage.
We were going to purchase a Micro Minnie. Not sure now.
I've come to the realization that MOST if not ALL travel trailers are built so cheaply that as the rolling earthquakes that they are NOTHING is worth the money 💰 the manufacturers are asking for them... seriously 25K and that many problems is just shear crap 💩... truly 15K in materials and I could build a TANK of a travel trailer... in FACT that's now my. Plan
Yeah I had a 2017 Winnebago Minnie Micro too and your issues are similar to what I had. Very poor quality and they've used some of the cheapest components they could find. Also you're kind of lucky that the mattress sagged. Mine it not only sagged but one night it collapsed. They used a balsa like wood as the support on the bottom and used staple gun which gave way.
Worst of issue was cheap clamp used for water pump gave way and started leaking and caused water damage to bathroom door and walls around the furnace vent. And guess what? Electrical distribution panel is right where the water pump was and leakage occurred, don't believe me? Go to the dealer and ask them where the water pump is.
Take your time when shopping around for RV or Travel Trailer.
I was seriously considering buying one 😳
Wow, I was seriously considering getting a Micro Minnie (one of my top two choices) but this definitely makes me reconsider. I feel like Winnebago should just give you a new trailer since this one is clearly faulty. But then again, would you really except another one...lol
They all suck. Winnebago is not alone.
I wouldn’t worry. Most of the stuff he’s complaining about has happened in our trailers and we’ve had 5 or 6 of multiple kinds of brands
Ahhh Winnebago you got your ears on? Nothing but crickets....
Lol too good feel sorry for him but damn
My Winnebago is a 1974 and has none of those problems. Too bad the guys who built mine retired before they built yours - Hal
Thank you!!!!!!! I wish i could give you two thumbs up. I was really close to buying one of these.
SURE HOPE W SAW THIS!!
Wow 25k. That’s a lot of coin. The RV world knows there are no lemon laws for their products. Therefore, they are protected and quality becomes an idea of the past, unless one buys an Airstream or a high end unit like that. Then you pay through the nose. Also, an rv is made up of a lot of parts manufactured by a lot of different companies. This leads to issues with tolerances, wiring, fitment and so on and so forth. My travel trailer was one of my biggest financial mistakes ever. Thanks for the video and I will not buy another rv ever. I might build my own.
Well back to looking at Jayco and the Wolf Pup. I wouldn't touch a Winnebago now. Thank you for the heads up. More videos like this are required. Hopefully the company can put their big boy underwear on and compensate you and it looks like many others in your position. Winnebego own up to your issues or go broke please.
WTF!!!!! That’s insane...
I other words...you paid 25K to rebuild. Promaster van self build best option at this point. RVs are designed crap too!
Jim,
OMG your video is timely. I am travel trailer shopping and discovered the Winnebago Mini line just recently. I liked the size and thought Winnebago would be a quality unit but your video is a killer for me. Of all the problems you show the pipe cut at a 45 degree angle and the industrial trash in the hidden locations is the most telling for me of poor quality. Where is the factory located? There must be some unskilled labor and poor quality control processes at that factory.
Dan
Couldn't agree more Dan. I actually visited a dealership several weeks ago and emailed them about purchasing the Micro Minnie today! Before they responded I thought I would check UA-cam one more time and stumbled upon this. While I understand the industry is plagued with quality problems, the fact they allow this to continue is criminal.
Look at a LANCE
Elk hart Indiana
I had to watch a second time. Thanks again.
I am scared!
I have watched this twice and can’t stop laughing. I definitely don’t want a Winnebago but I do want to buy you a beer. Please make more videos! This was amazing!
I think you should have just rented a trailer whenever you wanted to go traveling.. I don't think I'd ever buy any kind of RV after this video.
Interesting no rep from Winnabago commented with any kind of rebuttal on your video. I am sure they have folks who monitor Utube in relation to there products. This video will surely dissuade folks from considering the Winnabago Micro Mini. I been looking at the Winnabago Micro Mini & Rockwood Mini Lite. Well the Winnabago Micro Mini is off the list now. I guess the demand for Rv's trumps quality control, just get them out. Appreciate your brutally honest review @ the expense of your frustrating experience. I recently sold my Winnabago Navion Class C that I had for many years, with 0 issues, however it was at a much different price point.
Don't blame you a bit.
I want to have a beer with you after just hearing all this winnebago nonsense. They're very unthoughtful folks, unlike this man who thought to warn us before making the same mistake purchasing a micro minnie whiney-bag-O-shhhhh... well, you know! Thanks man!!!
Buy a airstream
Hilarious! 😆
What say you, #Winnebago? What? No comment? Is anyone home?