BEST Diesel Heater Set-Up for Winter Camping | Vevor Tools
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- Опубліковано 13 жов 2024
- Diesel heater in the winter. Diesel heater in a rooftop tent is a really nice set up in the winter, or even fall/ spring for that matter. With some inspiration from some other folks around me I believe I’ve come up with one of the best methods for running the diesel heater to a rooftop tent or even a ground tent near your vehicle.
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What I’m using for straps, you may have to strap the hose depending on your tent: envisionedprod...
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A bunch have folks have asked so I feel I need to clarify. When I travel with it, I only fill it up 3/4 of the way so that it doesn’t spill while off-roading heavy. Does anyone have a better method for this?
you can get baffle foam to help with the sloshing
@@RMartin187 I'm looking up one now to fit or just buy and cut. This is a great idea!
I’d like to use this on a UTV while in motion for winter time, and remove in the summer. Is there a safety feature where I wouldn’t be able to run the heater while driving around? Mainly flat ground but occasionally hitting hills. I’ll obviously have it sitting in a sturdy mount.
@@ctea89Years ago they used a similar heater in VWs as the heater off the air cooled engine was pathetic. I never heard of any problems and they are similar to theses heaters. I’d like heater in my UTV also and have looked into putting one it from the factory.
Would it make more sense to carry a rotopax and add a 1/4 - 1/3 tank at a time.
FINELY someone smart enough to mount their heater on a tire step! Every time I see one of these video's for roof top campers the person is always speculating "where should I put the heater"and I'm like on a tire step!! One thing I did notice is your muffler has a weep hole and that should be pointed down to allow for condensation drainage!
Oh I didn’t even notice that. I’ll have to take a closer look at that when I set it up. Using it this weekend so I will make sure I put the muffler the right way.
I've been searching all over for cost effective diesel heater solution and you have the full package with exactly what I want, including the tire step. Wonderful job and great video. I'm going to definately do this or something very close when the weather cools off in the next few months. Great video!
Yeah I would suggest getting started on it in the next 2 months and testing it before it gets too cold. I always break mine out around this time of the year to make sure it’s working how I want it to.
I finally decided to buy a 8kw diesel heater for my 5th wheel. Not the all in one but the one you have to assemble. Works absolutely flawlessly and puts a very hot heat.
I think one day when I find the right plans and get the time I might build one of the assembly ones into a box.
An observation. You may have the muffler attached 90 degrees off the angle recommended by Vevor, probably because it looks better. Like a car, the muffler can collect condensed water from the exhaust and eventually rust out. It is built with a weep hole along one edge to allow condensate to drain out and not collect inside the muffler. The configuration I saw in the video has the muffler sideways/horizontally (i.e. as if laying on a flat surface) rather than vertically with the weep hole at the bottom. The other hole (opposite the weep hole) is to allow you to attach the muffler to a bracket to keep it from moving around.
Absolutely correct!
But I found that it doesn't really need a muffler. Quiet enough without it.
Jason, the gas & diesel heater collector, mechanic, extraordinaire. Haha I know it took a lot of work for this one, great tutorial!
You think I’m good at it? Like I should get more camp heaters? Pile them up?
This was another BANGIN video by the legendary OXFOOT
Way too kind, ha. Thanks!
I like the tire mount set up (outside and off the ground). Some sort of cover and/or weather protection for the heater could easily be affixed to the tire mount to shelter it from the elements if needed. Cool!
Yeah so far Ive just been covering the screen from the elements with a like Tupperware sinch baggy thing that looks like a little mini hairnet. I just don’t know a good method of covering it in heavy rain or something. Ran all night fine even in the heavy snow but in rain I’m just not sure.
Maybe an over-turned plastic tote (secured from wind, open bottom). You could possibly protect/store/transport the heater in the tote when in transit? Cheap and cost effective?
Have you found a rain proof solution yet?
@@benrogers5393 also interested by the answer.
@@OXFOOT Maybe just put some clips to to side of the heater where you can mount a regular umbrella if needed
Great set up I could image making a jerry can shell to cover the whole unit. That way I could leave it on the bag door all the time.
I’ve got a new one with a hard case but yeah a Jerry can is interesting. Probably a much better way to transport it.
If you mount the heater outside, you are heating outside air so the exhaust should be directed downwind so you don't suck it back into the structure you're trying to heat.
The exhaust MUST be fed downwards to drain the condensation which is a bi-product of combustion. Otherwise it will accumulate and block the exhaust or at least, cause a gurgling sound.
Yes, Tire mount is working great !! Highly recommended. Your vid will help a lot of overlander/camper. Great job...
I finish my Diesel Heater set-up and found that the 'Tire Mount' is best location related to fuel pump noise lever. Noise level on my set-up range is 24.1dB/28.90 dB. I also replaced screw that secure fuel pump to 'Plastic' and wrapped it with foam.
Yeah I’ve heard of folks doing that with the pump. I actually found the noise sort of repetitive and relaxing so I didn’t mind it but I could see how that could get really annoying.
Excellent job explaining things. Very straightforward and informative. I've only recently discovered your channel, I subscribed immediately. Great videos,keep them coming.
Thanks, I really appreciate the feedback!
Nice video. These are important as the instructions that come with the units are pretty much useless. One suggestion: in 7.45 you have your muffler sideways. The weep hole must be pointed down so condesation can drip out.
Also, a genuine Webasto muffler is much quieter but adds to the cost. Quieter fuel pumps can also be sourced and/or the fuel pump can be muffled with some imagination and work. These issues might be important if you install the heater in a camper or something where you can hear it actually working during night and if you are a light sleeper.
I wish I had the funds for a true Webasto, maybe one day but I guess even the muffler wouldn’t be too much. As much as I winter camp it might be worth it to get an expensive heater.
And man the instructions on every single one of these no matter the brand is just terrible. I wish stuff was more intuitive. And thanks for the heads up on the muffler!
@@OXFOOT Luckily there are many videos where people explain how to use the control panel too. It has some functions which are quite difficult to figure out by oneself if one doesn't even know they are possible. Like tuning the air/fuel -ratio to make the heater work better and produce less soot. Also several good how to service the burner videos are on the tube. Very simple really, user doable easily. Guys in UK seem to use these a lot and they have made loads of interesting videos (tuning, servicing, improvements etc.).
BTW. you can order the little burner meshes separately from the ebay. Those are good to have for servicing the unit, especially if its been running rich for awhile.
Amazing video man. The explanation. The setup. The direct links 🤘 got my parts coming. All in it was $270 🤷♂️
Awesome! Yeah I didn’t do a cost break down but that’s not too bad compared to some of the box builds Ive seen. Thanks for sharing, hope you like it.
Awesome video sir. This was exactly what I was looking for to heat the bus!
Even in the deserts of new mexico it gets pretty cold in the middle of the night.
Oh yeah, the few times I’ve camped in NM it gets pretty low. It’s how I think of Moab too. Like it’s warm in the day time but as soon as that sun is down and the rocks/sand cool down, it’s cold.
I have mine in a well insulated 24x24 garage with a box fan blowing down from the roof peak works great no noise no fumes space is way to big but it keeps it warm enough I heard that wet snowy weather will get to the controls though maybe get a cover
Hi there and thanks for the great video.. Looks like you are using it in a really cold weather like 20s. Is it functioning good having it on the whole night with 20 fahrenheit? or is it turns off?
Downside to DAH of which I have 3. Boat, Barn and RV. Draws lots of power on average 9amps. Buddy heater draws 0 amps. Advantage of DAH over Buddy Is condensation. DAH can be used to dry the air if intake is inside. Buddy heater will turn tent rv boat into a rain forest.
Yeah I’ve been back and forth with the diesel heater and the buddy and then now I’m also thinking about the propex as well now. So many options. But yeah I wish there was a way to make the buddy heater less wet, it would be perfect if that was also dry heat. Just have a hard time going to sleep with it on because my mind thinks too much about knocking it over, etc.
Oh!!! Very nice video, which helps me a lot!!! Thank you, Jason!🙌👍
Thanks! Glad it was helpful, let me know if you have any more questions.
Did you ever get yor hands on the black model with more"simpler" operation. If so, I'd like to know how it worked out.
Solid explanation video. Might snag one up for camping out here in CO!
Right as gas/diesel prices blow up! Nah it’s only two gallons and it’s very efficient.
Great video! The stock air duct that comes with the diesel heater is 60mm I believe. I noticed you used a longer aftermarket 75mm or 3" air duct. How did you convert it to a bigger diameter?
Awesome! I’ve been looking forward to this video! Great job. The mount for the tire is great. I think in addition to not taking up as much space in the tent that the dry heat of a diesel heater is better than a Buddy heater. Thank you for sharing your upgrades as well. For now until I can justify upgrading I’ll keep using the Buddy heater 😂🥶
Don’t get me wrong I love the buddy heater but this just is a nice upgrade, out of the way, not worried about accidentally kicking it over and burning or melting my bag. The buddy heaters are a lot safer than people think but if I had to choose I’d go with the diesel heater every time.
@@OXFOOT upgrade for sure! Completely agree the new buddy heater has a better sensor for accidental knock overs but the diesel heater is much safer especially if you camp with pets or kids. Please make a follow up video after you have used the new heater for a bit. Curious to see how it holds up. I may end up upgrading later on for next season.
@@atpgarageatl yeah the buddy heater will shut off right away if you accidentally kick it but the grate still stays hot so that’s my only worry ever. It can still burn you or melt your bag or if it hit the wrong thing it could possibly catch something but I doubt it.
Biggest thing for me is that I can run the diesel heater like 24 hours without changing anything. If you only have the green propane tanks they don’t typically last all night and the bigger tanks take up a lot of space. But like I said I still love my buddy heaters, going to hang in to them for a while.
@@OXFOOT that’s a great point. I bought the cable so I can connect regular gas tanks to the buddy heater but the diesel heater is still the way to go. Looking forward to seeing how yours holds up before I upgrade!
i really like these heaters. im thinking about tearing out the shitty propane furnace(that kills my batteries) in my current RV and replacing it with a vevor. curious to know if i can just plumb the vevor directly into the current air ducting in my rv.
This is the just the video I'm looking for to sell me on the Vevor heater. How much power does this heater use? Can I run this off a Jackery 300 throughout the night? Thank you and Happy New Year.
Did you end up purchasing and using the Jackery 300?
Thanks man! Really to the point video!
I appreciate it. Try to make the product videos to the point. Then I get to make the camping ones a little more artistic. Good balance.
This is the best setup I've seen so far. Well done!
I like it but I think I’ve decided to go the propex route. But this is still a great set up and like 1/3 the cost of the propex heater in building. It’s a toss up.
For most people (who don’t make a living winter camping and can tax write off $1200 heater) the tire stand heater is probably the best.
I just got one of these diesel heaters a couple months ago for camping in my jeep xj. This winter in Minnesota is crazy cold and this heater is a complete came changer! I set mine on a trailer hitch cargo basket and cover it with a large tote that I store the unit and 10ft hose in. I cut a 3in hole in the side of the tote for the hot air and by flipping the tote over and covering the heater, it can draw fresh air in from the open bottom as well as getting rid of the exhaust. I like your tire setup. Do you run a small tarp into your wheel well then over your heater to keep it covered?
I haven’t camped in heavy rain or anything but I did use a small plastic bag thing that sort of looks like a mini hair net and out that over the screen. I will need to come up with something soon but I like the tote idea. I’m not actually sure how water resistant these things are.
Love this video! Thanks so much!
Thanks!
@@OXFOOT got my heater stoked! Thanks for the tire step idea! You’re Genius
Best idea I've come a cross.
Thanks! I’ve borrowed ideas from other to come up with this design.
very relaxing video
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback
Appreciate the video. A buddy and I are gearing up to so some winter wheeling and camping. I've seen several people running simular and was looking for a good video going over this. I am having a tougher time finding a tire step that's wide enough. 99% of them only go out to 13 inches and we run 13.50 wide tires so that seems to be the one challenge I'm having. The one I've found that extended further has a grated bottom and won't work well for this application just due to be able to easily drill the holes in the bottom. Any way, again, appreciate the video.
A channel named gear bunker did a similar build with the grated one. Maybe check out his video and see how he did it? I hope between our videos you can make a decision how to go.
Thanks
Any ideas for a mobile portable “ shed/ roof” over the heater if exposed to inclement weather ?
very cool. Does the heater get hot? I'm thinking of running it mounted to a roof rack on a honda civic. Also does exhaust rise or fall? Because I'll have to have a the windows cracked open, and dont want the diesel exhaust to fall into the car through the window crack.
Awesome video love it
Thanks! Appreciate the feedback!
Great video, I was inspired and purchased all the items in your post. Unfortunately I keep getting the e-2 error when running off my eco flow delta battery or cigarette lighter 12 volt. I’m wondering if there is a secret code for the new monitor that I need to type in. I have watched all the UA-cam videos but can’t find a code for this newer panel. Anyone else have trouble with this. With this specific 8kw diesel heater? What power supply do you use so I can get one that works. Thanks!
I haven’t had this error or run into it before. But commenting to bump this comment so hopefully someone who has had that can see it.
Hey brother I followed this to the "T". The set up worked very well. However, I was a bit bummed, my little FOB remote quit working.
looks for sharing the info.
Did you get them from the same company or on amazon? You can likely reach out to them. I somehow ended up with two and they both work for it so maybe you can get a replacement and use that.
@@OXFOOT I just stopped on the way home from work to a battery store, and put the new battery in it. I'll test the unit out in a day or so.
Twin Lakes, Mt. Baker, Washington. The wife and I made it to the Lakes but hey were still frozen. Google it beautiful place.
Thanks again the set up was easy enough.
This looks like a portable version of a bunk heater we use in semi trucks. So I’ve got some questions!
What kind of temps have you used this at?
Did you use #1 or #2 or a mix?
Do you think the muffler gets to hot to mount it and the flex pipe up under that tire step utilizing heat wrap on exhaust and high heat paint on the step? pondering how I could condense it down more.
How hard was it on fuel? Can a guy let her idle all day if the vehicle is staying put and your setup? Some days if we don’t leave ours running up here your gonna have a bad time when ya need it that night!
Thanks for the content. This was very interesting. I apologize in advance if some of these questions are answered in the other video. Still haven’t gotten to that one!
It’s pretty much adapted from the trucking industry. Heard that’s where it started and people moved it to vans and then eventually to the offroad/camping world.
I have used 1 more often but 2 seems to be the most straight forward and easy to modify. One is an 8kw I believe and the new one is 5kw.
I considered that idea keeping it mounted to the step but then it wouldn’t sit well when traveling so I’d be interested in a concept where it easily mounts at camp, however I’d have to test and see how hot it gets compared to the paint. Maybe there’s a way to mount it that doesn’t transfer the heat?
So for fuel it’s probably the most efficient heating system I’ve used. It used about a gallon in a night running not full blast but pretty high. The capacity is 2 gallons I believe. If you ran it on low it would be ideal but I was running it so high that it was too warm for a sleeping bag ha. Just wanted to test it and even though it was really too warm in there, the dry heat felt nice after being so cold in the snow previously.
How far do you need to separate the intake and exhaust ?
Point it the other direction should be fine, however if you can make it intake air from inside of your tent that would be the most ideal. Make sure the exhaust isn’t completely up wind of the intake.
I just opened my black model and was pretty disappointed that the dial is not a manual knob. It’s just the on/off button. There’s no way to operate it if the fob dies manually. I will probably return it since I haven’t even used it yet. That's what I get for not reading ALL the comments! Lol
Damn! Sorry about that. The regular ones are just fine I wish they had a dial on them. I’m going to try to cut that part out of the video tomorrow with the UA-cam editor thing but it’s not super easy.
That sucks, hopefully you’re able to return it with ease
Like the work , great job
Thanks appreciate the feedback!
Will a Bluetti AC180 run this heater? The power boxes have a 12v but only 10A output. The heater says it needs at least 15A.
What are people powering this from?
I wonder if the exhaust would keep the starter battery for your rig warm if you hung the heater on one of the front tires and pointed it into the engine bay? It would also help in cold starts 🤷🏻♂️
I hadn’t really thought I’d that but it could probably work. That exhaust does get pretty damn hot.
Nice vid man. I’m thinking about buying one and this vid simplified my brand… keep up the good work. Also what model of vevor did you get? How much?
This was the first one I bought: www.vevor.com/products/diesel-air-heater-all-in-one-12v-8kw-lcd-monitor-for-cars-trucks-boats-bus-rv?gclid=Cj0KCQiAu62QBhC7ARIsALXijXQApp3YfiFczrBJVy24bS68s8XKp2zaSKI1olZqI3MdfIBNpESUu30aAjTmEALw_wcB
I’ll try to find the new one.
It looks like the new one I got is sold out. It was a 5kw one.
The only difference between the first one I got and the new one is the way that the wire comes out. Might be able to ask them which one attaches with clamps or which one is hard wired.
That's a good set up
Thanks! I really like it
While carbon monoxide isn't an issue with the Buddy heaters, moisture is. Any ventless heater like the buddy produces a ton of water vapor. That will lead to mold & mildew im your tent.
Yeah the moisture was my main reason for switching. The diesel heater outs out super dry heat and usually the tent is bone dry in the morning even with the overnight breathing.
Tyre mount is a great idea
Yeah I picked that up from the gear bunker on UA-cam.
Do you power off of a jackery or other power source of that nature? How long will the battery last? One night? Two?
I power it off of a power bank that’s 2000 watts. So how long it lasts depends on how many watt hours your power bank is and also what setting you are running the heater on. Also will you be charging your phone off the power bank or any other electronics? That will affected. I’ve had it run all night and still had power the next day.
@@OXFOOT So, it needs Diesel and Power...Both ?
@@kookietherapy9398 yeah unfortunately it needs both. It takes very little energy from both but it still needs both.
I like the tire stand
Yeah it’s my favorite part. Got the idea from @the gear bunker but just modified it to work a little better I think.
A lot of reviews complain about that output ducting for diesel heaters. You've not had any problems with it melting?
I’ve not had any melting however since it’s not insulated I’m sure it’s not the most efficient heat by any means. I’m sure I’m losing a decent amount of heat in the process but I’m working on having the intake pulling air from the tent to make it more efficient. As far as the hose if you have a better option absolutely let me know.
Couple questions as well. What about heat loss, especially in winter, thru the uninsulated heater pipe? Maybe it would be worth putting on some insulated pipe wrap? Next, u show the thing buried in snow, should it be more protected, anything to say about low freeze point diesel fuel?
Why do they show it in the inside of a car. That looks ridiculous because of the exhaust. Look forward to your reply. Thanks
Do they show it inside of a car? Lmao don’t do that. Like I’ve seen people do that in vans but they always have the exhaust out of the bottom with a hole cut in the floor with a thru hull. Yeah it’s not the most efficient the way I have it here with heat loss. I’m going to have an updated video soon. But you should also have it with a shorter hose and in theory you should have the air coming in circulate from the inside of the tent with another hose.
How do you clamp on the exhaust pipe underneath? Doesn’t look like much room to get a tool in there to tighten a clamp? Nice setup though.
Truth be told it holds on their fine but it’s very much a weak point in my build. There’s a youtuber @johnny taco outdoors who had a solution on his video. A little quick connect piece. He sort of perfected what I did. You should check out his video for that part there.
I've thought about this but winters are very cold where I am and the diesel fuel would just gel up in the cold. I think it would be good to put a tarp around it or something to contain heat and somehow have a secondd hose going into the tarp to keep the unit from being super cold and shutting down.
I have considered that. I didn’t run into that in this instance, maybe it stayed warm enough some how. They also have propane heaters out there I believe the brand is call “propex” worth looking into. I think propane has a liquid point of like -30 or more. Something crazy low like that.
Just looked it it hen a little and they are unfortunately like $1000+.
Diesel suppliers change over to a winter mix with anti-gel additives a month or two before it gets really cold (areas and times vary of course). I've never had problems with gelling in my truck but maybe I've just been lucky. I live in TX but was working last winter in South Dakota so my experience is limited. Couldn't you just put an anti-gel additive in your container and be good to go?
@@MountainsandValleysOverland Yeah they do that here too, but I run diesel pumps as my job and its not effective enough with how cold it gets here where I live.
@@MrNewff Just add an additive like people do for their diesel vehicles.
I see that you use a lighter plug for the car, would it drain the battery over night? I like that idea better than carrying a 12v everywhere and using a solar trickle charger, that was my original plan. I’m trying to get this set up for camping with my son.
Oh I don’t run this to the cars battery, I run this off of a solar battery. My car won’t even allow a draw when the engine is off, maybe yours might but car batteries already have a hard time in the cold and I personally would be scared to risk it.
I have seen solar panels that top off the cars battery and like that idea but I don’t have first hand experience with that.
@@OXFOOT what solar battery do you use? Where can I purchase one?
@@ErinBrown1444 I used this one: amzn.to/3xIGDVW and it looks like it has a $400 discount on amazon. You also don't need that much power if you're just running just the diesel heater. You could go for a small powerbank like the river 2 pro: amzn.to/3xEbhzD
OR potentially the River: amzn.to/3TTM0bW however you might be cutting it close with that one if you want to use it to charge other things as well. so if you want to go for the smallest one please do some research before buying at taking to the cold.
Is it waterproof？Are you sure you can put it outdoors?
According to them it is not rated waterproof. Ideally you would have the plastics covered however I haven’t had an issue in the amount of times I’ve used mine. If you have a tent that opens on one side, I’d say put it on that tire if you are worried.
Would love to get the bracket that you used for the tire so u can mount it on the tire info on the bracket for the tire
Nice setup but doesn’t the heater get all bent and banged up as the wheel starts going around?? 😆
I got all the left over spinners that no one uses anymore so it just latches to those and sits still while the vehicle is in motion.
What model is the black heater and the power source wouldn't that drain the battery running it all night long?
I see you are exposing the unit to full weather/rain/snow. Although external parts are aluminum, I am unable to find any documentation that indicates this unit is weatherproof. Do you know if somewhere the manufacturer indicates it is safe to use in weather? I am thinking that if it does not say that it is weatherproof it is probably not and should be protected/shielded from damp weather conditions. What do you think? Thanks and Cheers!
I'm wondering the same thing right now... all the people doing this type of setup leave it out in the elements, and that seems reckless to me.
I’m trying to find some kind of cover to put over the heater and step so that I can at least cover it up while it’s in the truck for storage. More like a dust cover. Any ideas?
I hadn’t been using it like that but yeah that did stump me. I’m open to ideas if you figure anything out.
What do you think about installing a little lawn mower fuel filter on the heater?
I hadn’t but that’s intriguing. Have you seen anyone else do that?
@@OXFOOT yeah another guy on UA-cam did it. I’m actually going to put together a setup similar to yours using the same truck tire step. I’ll install a fuel filter and make the exhaust a sort of quick disconnect from the bottom for easy storage and a couple other things. I think I’ll make a little video on it.🌮
Thanks for the video very helpful by any chance vevor vs hcalory any different?
For the most part the motors and all that are the same, the housing is the only thing that’s different. Depends on which HCalory you mean though. That H Calory in a box looks nice but I’ve never tried it.
@OXFOOT I ordered same red as your 5kw for my rooftent top but hcalory brand another quick question how long diesel fuel will last when u not using like summer time for 3 4 months?
Great video! Thank you
Thanks! Also like to add that you can use kerosene mixture when temps get that low to keep it running smooth.
What is the normal setting u put on diesel heater let's see when is weather outside like 30 to 20 degress? And u in ur tent ?
How much power does it use? I see tons of these videos but haven't found a mention of how much battery it takes to run one?
At start up they can draw up to 10amps but then drop to an average of like 1-2 amps. Aka a 12v running at an average of 1.5 amps of current would draw about 18 watts meaning that it in theory run up to like 25-27 hours on a 500wh powerbank. give or take depending on start up.
@@OXFOOT
Perfect! Thanks!
How did you secure the reusable straps to the hose? It was hard to see...I didn’t see them wrapped around the hose? Or were they?
It’s just wrapped around the hose. It doesn’t have to be super tight to get it held in place.
Excellent video. Any thoughts for an insulated air hose?
Have any suggestions? I’m open to the idea. I like using it as radiant heat inside the tent but yeah a decent amount heat lost going up the tent.
@@OXFOOT Home Depot has a 10ft 4” insulated flex duct for less than 30$ (Canadian). Just a thought.
@@walterdibartolomeo3157 I’m going to check on that and I’ll see what that’s about. That’s not a bad idea.
I used mine for the first time, I'm smelling plastic but not sure if its coming from the heater itself or the ducting. Did this happen to you at first as well?
Some people say it’s the ducting. I didn’t have an issue but those that do seem to have a consensus that there’s better ducting out there. Maybe that manufacturer has some duds.
How has it held up in the elements so far?
It’s been fine, no complaints. Only upgrade I’ve made to it was when I drive I put tape over the gas cap to keep it from equalizing and bubbling in my car. I’ve never had it in heavy rain but with heavy snow it’s been fine.
does it run all night or is it controlled by a thermostat you put in the tent?
It depends on what setting you run it on. If you want it to be really warm then it might run all night but if you just want it to not be too cold then a lower setting might kick on and off to regulate the temperature.
Are those better than the smaller ones you put together? I'm looking to get something for my truck camper shell setup. Thanks.
You could probably build something just as cool with the DIY ones. Have you seen Keegan build’s channel where he builds one in a case?
@OXFOOT no but I will check it out thanks
If you are laying it on the ground would header wrap be a good choice
Agreed. I may one day just do it to this one just to be safe if I camp in some tall grass or something.
Would y’all rather have a diesel heater or a Buddy heater? Why?
Diesel. No fumes or extra condensation. Easy choice
@@throttlecurious Totally agreed!
Dear sir could give the model you suggested
10 time out of 10 taking the diesel heater I just purchased one and never going back to my big buddy im a verry active fisherman and hunter I stay in the bush all the time over night in temps down to -35°c here in northern Ontario and my heater has never let me down 👍👍👍👍👍👍 I would always run out of propane in the buddy since would have to run wide open because it does not push as much heat as the diesel webasto👌👌👌👌
For me the Buddy heater because I don't want to hear about three types of fuel with the propane Buddy heater because I'd buy the or I have the adapter to run off the bigger propane tanks then I can run my cookers off it too the bigger propane tank I mean so then I only got to worry about that and gas versus diesel on top of that
Are these heaters ok to be left in the elements? Ie rain/ snow etc while outside?
Still curious how & what you'll be using to cover the heater from Rain & Snow or ""can"" it be run outside In the rain & snow?
In minor conditions is should be fine. I covered the LED screen with like this little hairnet looking thing but it’s made for covering Tupperware. I ended up taking it off and it was still fine. In heavy rain or something I would cover it but I haven’t quite figured that one out yet. Maybe an awning or something.
Any issues with a 3” duct hose getting too hot and the unit automatically shut off? Also any issues on start up when plugging it into the 12v on a Jackery since the Jackery is rated for only 10amps
You didn’t mention battery set up. Are you plugging the 12v into car ?
No I run a powerbank. That part is really up to you if you want to run it from battery or power bank but I wouldn’t run this off if just the car battery. I’m sure it would die.
Does this setup only need power for firing it up or does it continually draw power liking this set up just worried about it draining the battery if running all night.
Yes it consistently drains power. It needs to run on a powerbank of some sort.
Hey man, where did you get that end cap thing for your dryer hose?
I’m about 90% sure that it came with my Vevor heater. Looked through my amazon purchases and I didn’t see a purchase for that outside of what came with the heater.
How much electricity does this use? With a Jackery (or insert whatever brand you like) say a 1000 how long would that last?
It’s really dependent on the mode you set it on. You can go from a very low range to very high. Running it in medium didn’t draw a considerable amount but let me find the exact stats when I get home. I’ll see if I can’t track them down.
Any diesel smell (fuel or exhaust from laying in the tent? GF might be onboard as long as there's no smell...even in the slightest. Granted if a person is on the ground walking close to the location of the heater, but she doesn't want to smell exhaust while we are sleeping in our RTT.
I’ve never smelt any diesel heat but I take precautions and wait a bit after starting it to let it heat up. I will say that some folks have complained of a plastic smell from the cheap hoses that run into the tent so I would recommend going with a higher end one to avoid that. Assemble it in you garage or just at home in general and run it to make sure it doesn’t smell and worst case return it and say it was faulty.
I need this but is there anything better now? I’ve seen the HCalory ones in a plastic box but the fuel tank is separate which is annoying a bit (I think).
Also, please tell me you’ve figured out how to rig the thermostat inside your tent?? I need something for my camper and it’ll only be 4ft from the heater to the inside of camper but I really need the thermostat and controls inside the camper. Any ideas on that?
What’s your budget? When do you need it by? I just bought a propex which is typically permanently mounted to a van or camper underneath and the controller goes inside. Van cafe is the only seller I know of in the US and that thing is $1,200 but it’s more efficient than diesel and no chance of spilling like diesel. Plus I already have tons of propane.
The one you’re talking about it pretty sweet, was actually going to work with them before I decided to just bite the bullet and the the propex with the warranty and all that. But it’s waaaaaay cheaper for the HCalory one there is just a wait time.
Also a company called lolo overland that makes a full unit that has the diesel tank inside.
It’s not cheap either:
camplolo.com/products/diesel-heater?variant=40270330232991¤cy=USD&
Also since I forgot, this is the propex heater I just bought. It’s “waterproof” under the vehicle but I don’t know the dirt and ingress rating.
vancafe.com/propex-hs2211-6500-btu-external-gas-air-heater/
@@OXFOOT so I need something soon (winter ski season) and I’m not in the 1000$ budget (I think). My camper has a Dickensen propane fireplace that runs on propane in my camper. But it’s not hot enough for winter most of the time.
I’ve seen the propex one. They are spendy but apparently great (assuming they don’t create more condensation).
So I was heavily considering the diesel ones. I’m usually only camping for a night or three at most.
How large of a power station would you need to run this heater, would a bluetti ac50s which is a watt power station be enough power, or would a larger station be needed. And what is the rough power draw
The bluetti Ac50 is 300watts, 500wh? If you’re trying to run it all night it’ll run fine, but it really depends on what setting you run it on as ti how long it’ll run. At start up they can draw up to 10amps but then drop to an average of like 1-2 amps. Aka a 12v running at an average of 1.5 amps of current would draw about 18 watts meaning that it in theory run up to like 27 hours give or take depending on start up.
@@OXFOOT Thank you means a lot, definitely going to get one of these for next season. Cheers
Bonjour merci pour les conseils et Ta vidéo peut tu me dire si se type de chauffage sont étanche pour restée la nuit dehors
So I would say it’s not waterproof but it is very much water resistant. I’ve never had an issue in the many times I’ve used it but as long as you cover the intake from getting snow in it there’s not much else that can get water into it. I’ve used it probably 10 or more times in the snow and not had an issue but I can’t guarantee it’s 100% waterproof.
May be a dumb question, but do you just leave this drawing power from your vehicle all night? I have a 360Wh solar generator so I’m not sure if it is viable to use that to power it rather than the vehicles 12V? Thanks for the video, incredibly helpful!
No this was running off of a 2000 watt powerbank. The heater draws between 1 and 2 Amps per hour. Let’s split the difference and say 1.5 amps with a 12 volt power source so you’d be drawing 18 watts per hour. On the high end you could be drawing 24 watts per hour. So let’s say the absolute worst case scenario in 8 hours you’d be using a little less than 200 watts. That being said that doesn’t factor in the 5-10 minutes of priming at start up where it draws about 10amps.
Wow, thank you so much for the detailed reply! That clears up a lot. Since I’m easing my baby into camping I won’t be doing long multi day trips, so with this info my little bank should do just find for a weekend trip. Thank you again for the reply. I’ve been watching a ton of your videos to help get my new Lime Rush 4Runner ready for some over landing trips.
@@DrDenticle and also not that this draw could vary depending on the model. I’d look at reviews of which ever model you get and see what the amp draw is. I’ve not actually hooked mine up to see what the draw is, my information is based on what other people have told me the draw of my heater is.
Would an extra car battery be enough for a night?
Diesel starts to freeze at like 30 degrees. What is your experience using these in Temps 0-30? How does the diesel not start to gel? Does it matter?
I haven’t had an issue with it. Maybe the unit warms up and that keeps it above 30, but I am going to try out a propane and maybe another heater as well this next winter.
How do you prevent the diesel fuel from freezing/gelling? I'm concerned.
Since this happens as high as 32F/0C.
Do you use additives?
I haven’t had this happen some how. The point has been brought up that additives are useful, but maybe because the unit itself got warm and kept the unit going above 32 somehow… frankly I’m not sure how it stayed running if that was the case.
Depends on how much diesel is vs propane
That is a downside. It seems like the price of diesel keeps going up. But I think it’s not too much more than propane. If you are using those little green propane tanks then the diesel fuel would actually be more cost effective.
The heater had to be plugged into 12v outlet?
Hey quick question, is this heater waterproof?? Or how you keep it out of the rain
So it’s not water proof, it’s water resistant when you use a covering for the screen. However I will likely be trying out a heater that’s completely sealed this winter ti see how much better that is or if it’s worth it.
What are you using to power your diesel heater ?
Bonjour je suis Français 😀 Ou avez vous trouvez le support sur roue ? cela fait plus de 1 an que je cherche impossible de trouver merci d'avance et bon voyage.
Can you let me know what is the description of the wheel clamp and where can I buy one.?
It’s pretty much all laid out in this video: BEST Diesel Heater Set-Up for Winter Camping | Vevor Tools
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@oxfoot so I’m curious if purchasing on Amazon how do we know which unit has the back 12v connections that you displayed making it super simple in order to use the other side to plug into our solar generators.
I’ll have to look on Amazon and see. I went through their website so I’m not positive about which ones on Amazon have that.
The hose doesnt get too hot? Wondering if it needs to get wrapped so it doesnt melt the RTT
In my experience no, I could even touch it and not burn myself, but many folks have recommended getting insulated hose. Less heat loss and probably less likely to burn something.
Do you have a recommendation for the 3-in hose? I bought one but then it smells kind of bad when I'm running it even on the lowest setting.
Where did you get the tire stand?
Does that have a thermostat or do you just have to use the remove?
You can set it to either thermostat mode or change it to a different mode that lets you set which level you want it at (low/med/high)
How long does it run with 3/4 tank? Also what vent is on the hose (goes in tent)?
There are a ton of factors that will change the length of time it can run. I ran mine sun up to sun down on a low setting and used like 1/4 or so. If you run it on high it might not do a whole night for all I know.
The vent comes with the heater. I just moved it up to the other hose.
Hi have you ever had issues with the unit being outside in the freezing temps?
I have not but it is a concern for sure. It’s not 100% water proof. I cover the LED screen but apparently that’s actually not even a point of contention. I’m trying to come up with something but so far I haven’t and I keep using it in the snow anyways. Water resistant keeps me using it, but water proof would make me feel better.
@@OXFOOT thank you for the info.