Rowe Electronics PDM60 and the PIAA LP530 LED Driving Lights
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- Rowe-Electronics, has come up with an alternative to the standard accessory fuse box and relay system, with the PDM60 (Power Distribution Module 60). This device is a solid-state unit that can handle up to six accessory circuits, and up to 60 AMPs of current. Like the fuse box described above, the PMD60 is wired directly to your bikes battery, isolating it from the rest of the electrical system. It is also activated via a keyed trigger wire, or a keyed ground wire (the PDM60 can be set up either way).
The advantages of the PMD60 are that you do not have to maintain physical relays and fuses, and each circuit is programmable for Amperage, trigger method, as well as an activation or deactivation delay.
One of the accessories I have added to my 2015 Yamaha Super Tenere, are the PIAA LP530 LED driving lights. I was looking for a light that would only enable me to see better at night, but also make me more visible during day-light hours. I think these lights accomplish both task very well.
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Craig, thank you for the details video. Just got myself a 2016 ES and you video really helped with with connecting auxiliary lights through the designated connector. Really good video.
You are welcome. Glad it was helpful.
Got the PDM60 for my Victory Cross Country, best investment, hooked my lights, USB chargers and LED lights. Great recommendation.
Thank you sir! And thank you for the donation!
Sorry Craig the last comment went to early as I accidentally hit the send button...lol...What I was going to say is I purchased the Rowe PDM60 in January this year only to realise my BMW GS Adventure had the sat nav & extra lights already hard wired so really I did not need it so sent it back & luckily received a full refund. What I did need was the Givi S110 & S111 which is now fitted to my GS Adventure as it gives me connections to charge my iPhone, iPad & GoPro Camera on the fly ready for my US Tour. The PDM60 is without doubt a brilliant piece of kit but as mentioned most BMW's GS motorcycles don't need it because of the factory hard wired systems.
Rob Taylor, lol...no problem. Sounds like BMW has the accessory thing down. Yamaha, makes me work a little harder...lol.
try pointing the left one down a bit to light in front and leave the right one up for distance. The left one pointing slightly down will be better for oncoming traffic as well.
J Mystro, Good suggestion, thanks!
As far as tools go...9 days through Nova Scotia, Newfoundland, Labrador, and Quebec on my Tenere I overpacked on tools. Air compressor, plugs,patches, tire removal and breakdown tools, electrical tape, bailing wire, zip ties, spare fuses, rope ( flat lay mule tape works great because takes less space) and a few random metric sockets.
This is probably all I would take on a long trip.
It's a Yamaha.
I realize I am not traveling to Alaska and back and you need to put much more thought in it. Just a few suggestions for you.
Have a great trip.......
Thank you for the tips. Sounds like we are on the same track. I will be posting my tool video in the next few days.
Installing the PDM60 on any bike doesn't really require any connectors, not even the Tenere. Just buy a Posi-tap connector and tap directly into a trigger wire. A wire that works every time would be the tail-light wire. A Posi-tap does minimal damage to a wire and if you want to remove it later, you can. Just wrap some electrical tape around the wire afterwards if a tiny hole in the cable sheath bothers you.
You can do it with posi-connectors, and I have done so in other cases. In this case the OEM connector is there, so I figured why not use it? Makes for cleaner installation...part of my OCD. Thanks for the input!
I went to hit the like button, but I already did. Bravo!
Terrific video. Really appreciate your time and effort. Have a terrific Thanksgivings
Thank you! Hope you and your family have a great Thanksgiving as well!
Wow Craig I purchased the Rowe
Awesome explanation
Glad it helped!
Very detailed. I learned alot thank you. Donations on the way.
J Mystro, Thank you!
Another great video. Thx a lot!
Mike McKinley, Thanks!
That is pretty interesting. I put in the Blue Sea System 5025 ST Blade Fuse Blocks - Waterproof fuse box. under the seat in the Vstrom. They aren't as fancy but only cost 30.69 on Amazon.
That is a great price. I know Western Beaver and Twisted Throttle off the standard fuse box and relay option, but I have not see prices that low. Thanks!
a valued resource
thank you
Thanks for watching!
Great review,very informative and detailed.
rick kirkland, Thank you!
Hi Craig, love the vids, very interested in your trip to Alaska. I have done it and at the same time of year that you are. While you have the lights, don't let them tempt you into riding at night once you get on the Alaska highway out of Dawson Creek (or in Wyoming or Montana for that matter if you are going through there). There are truly so many bears, elk (and hundreds of deer and elk in Montana and Alberta) etc. around and on the roads that it is seriously dangerous. Once dusk hits, head for a motel (I camp too, but I saw bears every afternoon...so...being a wuss, headed for a motel!). Northern British Columbia is full of bears...and, they say, there are more bears than people in the Yukon. Best, Douglas
Thanks for the tip. We are definitely going to try and stop at reasonable hours. The only reason we would push harder is if something unforeseen happens. But even then, as you said, we can grab a motel if necessary.
clear water lights are having much better focus and spread.
Thanks!
Hi Craig!!!! Just bought a 2023 yamaha ST.....coming from bmw 1250 rt. Have never used a pdm. Looking at the healtech thunderbox and the amplink.....great bits of kit to clean up wiring. Still loving yours?
Yeah the PDM is great. I ended up selling the Tenere and now have a Triumph Tiger 1200. It also has a PDM installed.
Surprised Yamaha haven't specced full LED headlights and DRL as the bike is a high end product in their range. BMW have got lighting on point with their adventure bikes. Looking forward to seeing you ride that Yammie in anger.
Yeah, the Tenere is not as sophisticated as the GS, but it is also about 10 grand less. For now, I am happy with it. I have already had it on the track. It was a lot of fun. Takes the corners much better than my Vision...LOL.
Craig Ripley I rode a new Africa Twin on a 600 mile trip, great fun if a little underpowered on the road. It all comes down to personal preference and finance as there are some great bikes in that sector including yours of course.
I'm sure your bike will serve you flawlessly on your Alaska trip.
Sleepingdragon 1, Absolutley, there are a lot of great bikes out there and the differences are really small. Thanks!
Hi I am want to put PIAA light on super tenere 2023 did you use hook up with external wire or with factory high beam.Please assist
Thanks
As in the video I used a PDM60 to isolate the lights from the bike. The lights operate via their own switch. They are not connected to the high beam.
Great info. Thanks!
Thanks for watching!
Very Cool! 😎
lonestarrider, Thank you!
I noticed that there is a 20 amp fuse in the wiring of the LP530 PIAA LED lamps. The PDM60 has a limit of 15 which is covered under the warranty. Did you void the warranty of the PDM to increase to 20? Or am I missing something?
I am not sure about 20 amps voiding your warranty...at least I don't remember seeing that in directions for the one I bought. I came with at least one of circuits set to 20 amps. It has been a while so I would have to go and look at my settings, but as I recall they lamps and the switch have a pretty low draw, so I think I set my on 5 or 10.
Thank you for the video. Very informative.
One question, to install this piaa light, does it require to remove that plastic under the headlights?
I took it off.
Excuse my ignorance but why is the PDM 60 needed?
It isolates the accessories from the bike's electrical system, which is important with modern CANBUS systems.. You can do the same thing with fuses and relays, but the PDM 60 is a programmable all in one solution.
@@LivingOffTheSlab makes sense. Thank you for the explanation.
Can someone tell me please why my pdm’s lights are on even if my bike switch is off, and why my air horn can be activated with a button even if switch is off but that line needed the ground trigger activation???
First, let me say that, a friend of my did get a defective one and had to have it replaced. However, to figure it out, I would start with the simple things. Is your trigger wire connected to a keyed wire? If the hot trigger is connected to a line that is always hot, then the PDM will always be on. Or if it is set up to be ground triggered, maybe the ground is always active...? As I said in the video all of my circuits are keyed on the hot wire. To trouble shoot, I would try setting up the PMD to be triggered on the hot and leave the ground unconnected. If it works, then you know the ground is the issue. If it is still on when the key is off, then you are not connected to a keyed wire. Your might also call PMD and see if they can help you. Here is their trouble shooting page.
pdm60.com/support/troubleshooting/
thank you for replay. That was actually, totally stupidity of mine. Instead of connecting ground trigger wire to switch that triggers ground, I connected it directly to baterry ground. what a clown I am. Since the battery ground is continuous one, it was keeping the PDM lights ON continuously. Also, my horn wiring was actually wrong. All I needed to do is 5th line(PDM) positive to horn, negative (PDM) to negative horn and ground ( purple ground trigger on PDM) to the ground side of the horn switch (ground trigger) of the horn. That's it!
Glad you got it fixed!
I would cut the letters off the light guard.
Because they are blocking to much of the light.
I agree, the bars are kind of thick. I would like to find some other covers that do not block as much light. Thanks!
Craig Ripley I also don't like brand names on my motorcycles or Trucks.
I feel that once i pay for a machine it belongs to me, not the company.
I don't mind things like the Yamaha symbol.
But i don't like words all over my stuff.
I took all the words off my Mercury Mountaineer.
If its just a small brand logo, i'm ok with that. but i don't need a bunch of words to wax around.
My old 1973 Honda was a bitch to wax with those big Honda words on the gas tank.
I don't have to wax some of the bikes now days, because they are lust plastic covers you can wipe with a rag.
No paint to protect anymore.
My 2005 cruiser has paint on the gas tank, but the 2 fenders are plastic.
And my sport bike is all plastic, except the frame and handle bars.
Jojo Crazy Cat, I hear you. But everything is about brand now a days. We wear logos like prices of art. kind of bizarre when you think about it. You don't want to know how many Victory shirts I have...LOL.
True, I do have a few Truck Logo shirts.
We pretty much are brainwashed into this way of thinking.
The TV is full of it.
Is why i stopped watching TV all together.
If i want to watch a Movie, i can wait for it to come out on Netflix.
No commercials.
I love my bikes, But its odd i never bought a shirt with a motorcycle logo.
Now you have me wanting to look for shirts online with Motorcycle logos.
Harley is probably the most motorcycle logo i have seen.
You can find just about anything out there. Google has everthing...lol. have fun!
Hello Craig! I plan to pick up a new 2018 Super Tenere ES this coming Thursday. I was wondering if you still recommend the SM-Motech Adventure/Outback side cases and the PIAA Driving lights. I'm planning on getting the better Yamaha skid plate especially since you do not have to take it off to change the oil filter. I haven't decided about what brand of crash bars to purchase yet. If i mount the driving lights under the headlight I don't think Yamaha's crash bar will work due to the cross bar. Your input would be appreciated.
Congratulations on the Tenere, I am sure you will enjoy it. Yes, the bags have worked out great, I have no complaints and would buy them again. The PIAA lights have also been good as well. I don't ride that much at night so mainly they are for increased visibility. If you don't mind spending the money, the Clearwaters or Denalis are probably better. At some point I might upgrade. I think you are right about the upper crash bars, you would have to mount the lights to the bar. There are a few different bars for the Tenere, but I can only speak to the AltRider crash bars. They do their job, but are expensive if you to replace them. But cheaper than an engine. Hope this helps, ride safe!
@@LivingOffTheSlab Thanks Craig! I appreciate it.
So essentially, your accessory lights come on when you turn on the ignition? What if you want to control them through a button? I only want my additional lights on at night. Have you tried connecting through a button?
The switch is wired into the circuit. I can turn them off if I want, but I run them all the time for visibility. Thanks.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Great. How did you wire it into the circuit exactly? When I wire my 4 pole LED button switch into the circuit wire of the PDM my button light turns on as do my lights. Pushing the button does nothing. Everything stays on all the time.
@@LivingOffTheSlab Its Ok. I figured it out through trial and error. The IO/NO post connects to your accessory. While the common and positive pole both connect to the circuit wire from the PDM.
Glad you figured it out. What I did was to cut out the relay from the PIA harness and wire the switch inline to the power for the lights and then of course the ground to the PDM common ground. But what you did works, so dont change it.
Good info Craig. Is there any advantage to clicking the Twisted Throttle link for purchases up here in Canada? I've used them on occasion before I found your channel.
Thank you for asking, I appreciate that. Here is a link to the Canadian site. Obviously you can go there directly, but I appreciate you doing so through my site. I will have to start adding links to the TwistedThrottle.CA site.
www.twistedthrottle.ca/rowe-electronics-pdm60-power-distribution-module-with-user-programmable-cable?___store=twistedthrottleca&acc=072b030ba126b2f4b2374f342be9ed44
Hi Craig Im not sure if got this right you used the OEm super Tenere plug to power the PDM 60?
Yes, the three wire plug that it used for heated grips on the non ES models.
Living Off The Slab Thank You really learned a lot form your video. My 2017 ES model also has a spare plug, I suppose this is for the the aux lights that can be added. But I prefer going through the PDM. So thanks again!
And happy trails
I'm thinking about purchasing a Super Tenere. Did you get the ES model with the electronically adjustable suspention? If not, what was your reason not to get it? Thanks in advance!
I did get the ES model and it seems to work well. I do not end up changing my suspension settings very often, I just set them to what I like and leave them. When it is loaded down, then I stiffen it up. The one great thing yo get with the ES version, are the heated grips. Ride Safe!
Great info on your channel !! Question : My 2016 S-10 I added OEM heated grips.They were plug 'n play. Can I do the same for electronic suspension ? In other words, am I able to buy plug 'n play EAS as an add-on kit ? Just curious.
Are you having problem closing the right side panel at all? I just install the eastern beaver PC-8 which seems to be the same size as PDM60, however space seems to be pretty limited on the newer models of super tenere (2017). I'm very much interested to know if you are facing the same problem or not.
Aria K, when I first installed it, the cover was a little tight, but after having taken it off and on several times, it is good. I also removed the oem tools so I could use the space for wires
Thanks for the reply Craig! Removing the tool box sounds very reasonable and I've done that same as Yamaha could have perhaps found a better spot for it IMO, having said that I read some people had issues with water getting into the tool kit compartment which could be concerning for electrical components like relays, etc. I highly doubt it would be an issue for me since I never go off the road :-). Once again thanks for the helpful video and ride safe!
Aria K, your welcome. I have had my bike down in the mud/water and it does get in there. I had no issues though. I either use weather tight connectors or shrink tube. The PDM is sealed and has been good so far.
Craig,
You may or may not have looked into clearwater, but for additional lighting you may want to check them out. I know they're expensive, but man.... great lights. I run the Darlas on fork mounts on my Multistrada and they are excellent. They company stands behind their product and they take care of you. Check them out.
www.clearwaterlights.com/
Did you program your PDM at 1 amp for the lights.?
No, I do not remember as it has been a while, but I think it was 10. I think the lights are switch are pulling what, 3 amps each . So I think I went with 10. Try it and see if work. If not you can always go up.
Craig, if your looking for a factory connection end plug, check out the following web site for Electrical Connections for motorcycles electricalconnection.com/index.php/brand/yamaha/yamaha-super-tenere/