We're currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. If you're watching this review, it may be of interest. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road...
The steering is like that specifically for more precise control when offloading - think it stops the wheel from violently spinning in your hands if you go over certain obstacles. Infotainment system is a ground up Ineos design.
There’s also a popular steering stabiliser by Fox you can get aftermarket to help with return to center. … and one Ineos Dealer in the US just announced that Ineos will address that annoying speed limit function by letting you turn it off and have it stay off. Big plus!
@@GeoffreyBradbury If only we could have the same turn off - stay off thing for the speed limit warning in the EU as well. Or at least put a hotkey somewhere that allows you to turn it off in one click (like Mercedes has on the touchscreen and also the steering wheel for instance)
The steering is designed this way because this truck is strictly for off-road and overtrail use. A highly responsive steering wheel, like those in sports cars or modern vehicles, would make it challenging to control in serious off-road conditions.
@@TheStraightPipes more specifically, this has a solid front axle with recirculating-ball steering. The Jeep Wrangler is the only other vehicle on sale (in the USA) with this front suspension setup and should feel somewhat similar (although probably a bit better) than the Ineos. The is the most robust (not necessarily the "best") suspension/steering setup for off-roading. Bronco, 4Runner, Tacoma, new Defender, Land Cruiser, new G-Wagon and most other Off-Road vehicles use a more modern indepenent front suspension setup these days, and have a better steering feel on-road.
When fording a river, if you hit it too hard and your fan is spinning, the fan can bend and impact the rad punching a hole in it. Either put a metal fan on or have a switch to turn off the fan when fording.
From what I read the steering wheel is made this way specifically for offroading, if you hit something with a wheel the steering wheel wont break your hand. The lack of self correcting is made for accuracy when youre offroading
What you read is nothing but foolish justification of a serious problem with this vehicle. Read feedback from owners who lost steering control while driving this car on the road. Perhaps losing steering control has another explanation and a “good” reason as well… I don’t know.
@@garretts3619I noticed it just by watching this one video. I’m not subscribed so I don’t watch regularly enough to care too much about what’s really going on.
So before going to court over making his own defender, Jim Ratcliffe reached out to JLR just wanting to buy their tooling so he could keep making parts to keep his defenders alive, they refused so he decided he would make his own. *Then* they sued him.
Steering: please let it go! 😂🎉 this thing is made to off-road the world and never break. It is supposed to climb like a goat. Turning ratio is not ideal to park at Walmart... it is a utilitarian vehicle to overland. When off-roading hard, go figure what breaks, even on the jeep. It is made for longevity. For those who don't like the steering, utilitarian truck isn't for you. There are other cards to drive downtown with. Awesome review guys, as usual. Greetings from 🇫🇷
Its got play in it so if your front tyres hit a rock or drop off road, the sudden change in direction doesn't break your arms as its translated up the rack and into the steering wheel. Same steering you'll find on military HUMVEEs (H1) and the old British Army Defenders.
Jakob has always been rude to Yuri in the videos for a while now. I’ve noticed it about a year ago. Jakob is very self-centered and thinks his shit doesn’t stink. I’ve met them both in person & Yuri is the sweetest person while Jakob was way too entitled.
@@GhalaZoy I can see Yuri being the nicest guy. He always talks about relating to the elderly population, which is pretty cool. Jacob I like bc of his love of V8’s. But can’t say I’ve met them tho to really tell.
I'm so glad I never went through with my purchase on this one. As one new owner put it "some parts of my Grenadier looks like it was put together by a 5-year old". Hopefully they cleaned up some of the quality control issues but after seeing this review, especially with the steering, I feel even better having skipped this.
You missed out by not going through with it! It’s amazing and hands down my favorite car I have owned. The review was good but didn’t do it justice. The quality has been outstanding and I have had only 1 minor issue.
Zero quality problems on mine. It’s completely solid, and incredibly fun to drive. It isn’t a stellar highway cruiser, but for camping on off-road trails or to take to the beach as a second/third car, it’s awesome.
You want the fan off in wading mode because the viscosity of the water can pull the fan blades into the radiator or engine. Plus the sudden shock loading of the fan isn't good for the motor or the fan.
Waiting is so that you don't break off the radiator fan blades in the water when it switches on while you are crossing deep water. You deactivate the fans to prevent this.
Proper steering, portal axles, 35" tires, and a central tire inflation/deflation system. That's literally all this needs to become a full-blown offroad vehicle. The rest of it is already there.
It already is very capable of road. It's also very usable on road - as it is designed. The guy wanted and used all the best off the shelf components and a reputable company to build it. He did all that.
@@mcnuggetapple stupid expensive, yes. But compared to lifting the suspension, it retains the original geometry MUCH better, and is much more reliable in the long run as a result. See: every single Gelandewagen and Unimog ever made with portals.
I found the recipe if you want to make of of these at home. Defender body, but sprinkle in some G-Wagon style (look at the bumpers), add a bmw drivetrain, use a Nissan armada infotainment screen, smart car steering wheel, everything else is a generic from autozone or eBay. Edit: and a Volkswagen Jetta key.
The steering and turning radius - the concept of “road” is more of a suggestion than a physical limitation for the Grenadier. I mean, we like knowing it’s there, but if we happen to wander off into a field or down into a ravine, no big deal. It’s called a “scenic detour.” Eventually, we’ll find the road again, at some point. Also, your remark “if my wife needed to drive this, I would not buy it . . .” - that’s a feature, not a defect.
I would buy one of these. It’s a poor man’s G Wagon.. Also, the quirky little design features are part of the appeal of this design and vehicle.. Nice work guys…
Its got a low geared recirculating ball steering which is best for off road as it reduces steering kick back. Then remember its a ladder frame chassis with solid axles, also best for off roading, which explains the ride and handling. A BMW Defender would be a better analogy perhaps.
We rented a new X3 through Sixt in Europe a couple weeks ago, and turning off the speed warning was the first thing we did before driving any further (or the first thing we forgot after driving away). The beep is so annoying.
I actually really love what he's done here. It has a lot of character, which so many cars lack (vintage new). 😮👌🏽 However, I hope they are able to address some of those handling issues to make the thing feel a little more manageable & safe on the road, where it will likely be driven 98% of the time.
From Top Gear - "The Grenadier uses a recirculating ball set-up, a heavier and more ponderous solution than its rack and pinion equivalent but also much more robust and shock-proof off-road. It needs 3.85 turns lock-to-lock and doesn't self-centre, so driving the Ineos in town can be quite the workout. "
they did not design it to be this way. he steering issue is a symptom of an alignment issue. mine did that when it was delivered, but i had it aligned by the dealer to spec and it's totally fine now. the return to zero issue is still there, but it doesn't bother me.
This was designed to be a hard-core offroad vehicle for farmers, utility companies etc. and that's why feels less than precise on the road. Obviously many of these are never going more off-road than the local shopping mall but it's intended to be more at home lugging workers to mines or searching for broken powerless far off the beaten track. The original Defender has a transmission brake rather than a parking brake (safer off-road but you'll trash the entire driveline if it's used when in motion (so no use for drifting).
Ive been keeping up with them for years now and wanted one. Sadly, as I expected, they’re too much for me but maybe one day I’ll be able to afford them..but i doubt it
Just watched Jenny Nicholson's Evermore theme park review before this. Rich guys building wacky things 90% for themselves and 10% for everyone else: if nothing else it's always interesting to see the results, and makes for fun youtube videos.
if the fan is spinning full speed when it hits the water it could break some fins off or even break the whole fan off depending on how quickly it gets deep, in addition to spraying muddy water across the entire engine bay
Solid axle recirculating ball steering. It should be just like the Jeep Wrangler. The wheel not recentering has more to do with alignment. The cooling fan can be sucked into the radiator in water.
These hearty beasts have been ratcheted down too hard on flat beds for delivery and have had caster pulled out of spec which apparently has not been checked on a number of vehicles.
This brand new vehicle sounds like it steers about the same as my 1988 grand Wagoneer “the steering wheel points you in the general direction of where you need to go. “
I was so close to getting one. But that steering was a deal breaker. I know it's for precise off-road control but really for a daily driver, I think they would have broader appeal if they had a more standard steering setup.
I hate the rear lights, there's clearly a shape in the bodywork there for a custom light but for cost cutting reasons I guess they just implemented off the shelf round lights instead. Besides that it's cool, although not for me with it being a bit too agricultural in nature and that's fine, not everything has to be for me. Could've still done with a driver's display/gauges though.
This would need a speed variable ratio steering, 4 wheel steering, I6 turbo diesel, embedded filament windows defrost front and rear, inline antifreeze winter heater vs block, winter package, extra tow with air assist rear suspension leveling.
Absolutely not. We bought them for the build and capability and are absolutely trying our best to break them (not very successfully). Some GWagen or Pretender interior would be a waste of money. They need to stick with the priorities. Built On Purpose. Let everyone else go buy a GX 550 or Defender. Or drop another 50k on a custom interior and absolutely look like a tool.
You can shift manually with the shifter in M/S Mode and it stays in manual, so not completely useless. 😅 Wanna see a B58 Stage 2 Tune in one of these. Does MHD support it? 😬
No idea why they call it a "Station Wagon" considering that we don't use that term in the UK, for a car like this we'd call it a 4×4, Off-Roader or SUV. A "Station Wagon" in the UK would be known as an "Estate Car". I might also add that the development of the Grenadier was started during the time after JLR discontinued the Land Rover Defender but before the launch of the new LR Defender-series, and the factory in Ambach, France where the Grenadier is built was formerly owned by Mercedes-Benz and used to build the Smart-cars before manufacturing was moved to China due to cost reasons.
The Smart production went to China because Geely owns 50% of Smart and has an EV plattform. @ Yuri and Jacob it was developed by Magna-Steyr (which has nothing to do with Germany, it is a austrian-canadian company), not build. Mercedes sold the factory in Hambach (at the german boarder) to Ineos (which also owns 33% of the Mercedes F1 team) and they build them by themselfs. The german flag stands not only for the BMW engine but also for the transmission by ZF Friedrichshafen.
This thing is the opposite of everything that is happening to cars right now and I love it for that. If I could, I would buy one. Simple reliable, proven engineering. Old fashioned analog and switches everywhere. Although I didn't like how it lifted its outside front wheel in those corners... Roll over prone?
For the steering it sounds like the alignment has too much toe OUT . makes the steering super vague and doesn't return steer well also makes the turning angle horrible . Toe in makes it more responsive and snappy steer return.
It has almost no castor, it's solid axle like a jeep, you want 5-7 degrees for the knuckles but you at best can get 2 out of these. Somebody will make adjustable lower lcas will solve it. Think shopping cart with no offset wheels as opposed to them trailing in the front.
We're currently on a 5-year trip in a Grenadier across the world towing a Patriot X3, which we live in. If you're watching this review, it may be of interest. We set off from London in mid-July 2023 with our two young kids and we’re approaching 50000km. At least 70% of our journey has been off-road...
One day when i'm a billionaire, I'll be building my dream V12 centre positioned single seat hypercars. But for now i'll drive my Mazda.
it would be nice to own a mazda.
Video it's just 15 minutes ago, your comment was 10 hours ago?
@@lucassitanggang5154 time travel 😱
@@lucassitanggang5154yuri’s burner lol
V12 based on the Mazda inline 6?
I can feel the tension
😬
Hopefully it's just a small situation that can resolve itself and no one slept with the other guy's wife or anything like that.
The steering is like that specifically for more precise control when offloading - think it stops the wheel from violently spinning in your hands if you go over certain obstacles. Infotainment system is a ground up Ineos design.
Yeah it's a recirculating ball steering like the G class had pre 2018.
There’s also a popular steering stabiliser by Fox you can get aftermarket to help with return to center.
… and one Ineos Dealer in the US just announced that Ineos will address that annoying speed limit function by letting you turn it off and have it stay off. Big plus!
@@GeoffreyBradbury If only we could have the same turn off - stay off thing for the speed limit warning in the EU as well. Or at least put a hotkey somewhere that allows you to turn it off in one click (like Mercedes has on the touchscreen and also the steering wheel for instance)
@@hummerltheOh Just find where the buzzer/speaker is and disconnect it.
offloading what? the kids at soccer practice?
The steering is designed this way because this truck is strictly for off-road and overtrail use. A highly responsive steering wheel, like those in sports cars or modern vehicles, would make it challenging to control in serious off-road conditions.
Hell ya
That’s exactly right
@@TheStraightPipes more specifically, this has a solid front axle with recirculating-ball steering. The Jeep Wrangler is the only other vehicle on sale (in the USA) with this front suspension setup and should feel somewhat similar (although probably a bit better) than the Ineos. The is the most robust (not necessarily the "best") suspension/steering setup for off-roading. Bronco, 4Runner, Tacoma, new Defender, Land Cruiser, new G-Wagon and most other Off-Road vehicles use a more modern indepenent front suspension setup these days, and have a better steering feel on-road.
All those buttons on the overhead panel! I love it, you're basically in a mini flight cockpit at that point. More buttons pls
>bmw g Wagen
Honestly never thought of it like that but you guys are spot on.
One of the coolest vehicles to be unveiled in the last couple years
For the speed limit thing: Hold the SET button for 1 second when entering the car. This turns the speed limit warning off.
When fording a river, if you hit it too hard and your fan is spinning, the fan can bend and impact the rad punching a hole in it. Either put a metal fan on or have a switch to turn off the fan when fording.
There is a Wading Mode for a reason.
Cant wait to see a 9 sec 1/4th mile Grenadier. That motor is a gift from the gods
B58 Mentioned.
Jack/Ethnic Yuri: Neurons activated.
Despite it's shortcomings this thing is still undeniably cool. It's not a global-platform product-planner special.
Jakub: "Apparently this company is coming out with an EV."
Yuri: "I don't wanna know anything about that."
Brilliant.
From what I read the steering wheel is made this way specifically for offroading, if you hit something with a wheel the steering wheel wont break your hand.
The lack of self correcting is made for accuracy when youre offroading
What you read is nothing but foolish justification of a serious problem with this vehicle. Read feedback from owners who lost steering control while driving this car on the road. Perhaps losing steering control has another explanation and a “good” reason as well… I don’t know.
@@australia-ukraine it's a vehicle designed specifically for offroading, if you want a pavement princess then get the jeep wrangler or land cruiser
Seems like Jakub is getting upset with Yuri more often.
It's like a marriage. Too much like a marriage.
I agree…. Trouble in paradise?
Y'all need a microfiber cloth sponsor.
Right that infotainment screen was looking cranked lmao
For sure I have one in my Volvo and just put one the Saab 9-3 convertible. Lol ❤
That speed limit warning is a deal breaker. Insane.
EU showing its awful side..its a dealbreaker for every new car being produced IMO
Saw one in person today and I’m in love with it
They are not vibing as smoothly as usual. It seems like they are annoyed each other and trying to hide it.
I’ve noticed that for a while now and wondered if anyone else was picking up on that?
They were like this a year or two ago, and then they got better. Every friendship and work relationship goes through ups and downs. It’s normal.
@@TranceFur Absolutely.
I mean the channel has really fallen off in terms of views so
@@garretts3619I noticed it just by watching this one video. I’m not subscribed so I don’t watch regularly enough to care too much about what’s really going on.
Of course the minute you post this I see one on the road for the first time - with Ontario plates even! Looks great.
So before going to court over making his own defender, Jim Ratcliffe reached out to JLR just wanting to buy their tooling so he could keep making parts to keep his defenders alive, they refused so he decided he would make his own. *Then* they sued him.
And they lost... delicious JLR tears... delicious they are.
Steering: please let it go! 😂🎉 this thing is made to off-road the world and never break. It is supposed to climb like a goat. Turning ratio is not ideal to park at Walmart... it is a utilitarian vehicle to overland. When off-roading hard, go figure what breaks, even on the jeep. It is made for longevity. For those who don't like the steering, utilitarian truck isn't for you. There are other cards to drive downtown with. Awesome review guys, as usual. Greetings from 🇫🇷
That BMW shifter stands out like a sore thumb. Who ok'd that?
Same thought. It looks totally out of place.
Couldn't agree more.
I read it was gonna cost a lot of $$$ to design one when the BMW shifter came with the motor! I don't mind it it's just to select D !
@@dmbassett they couldn't just swap the physical shifter out and put a knob or something?
Probably Toyota
There are like 7 of these driving around the city I live, and I like seeing them. It's new but a little retro :)
living in an area where everyone drive 5-10 over the speed "limit", the beeping sounds like a nightmare
You know it's coming. Set aside additional 1-20 minutes depending on how long your trips will be and how many stops.
Software update addresses the speed limit clicking not saving
It a EU mandatory requirement from 2024 onwards, why they havent disabled it in cars sold elsewhere is wierd though
Its got play in it so if your front tyres hit a rock or drop off road, the sudden change in direction doesn't break your arms as its translated up the rack and into the steering wheel. Same steering you'll find on military HUMVEEs (H1) and the old British Army Defenders.
Durable heavy duty !! Excellent INEOS !
I feel like the two of them aren’t getting along more and more as the videos progress? Anyone else feel that way?
I felt too! Checked the comments and spotted you here
@@pratheekmini9324 that's exactly what I was thinking. I was actually looking in the comments to see if I wasn't the only one.
Jakob has always been rude to Yuri in the videos for a while now. I’ve noticed it about a year ago. Jakob is very self-centered and thinks his shit doesn’t stink. I’ve met them both in person & Yuri is the sweetest person while Jakob was way too entitled.
@@GhalaZoy I can see Yuri being the nicest guy. He always talks about relating to the elderly population, which is pretty cool.
Jacob I like bc of his love of V8’s. But can’t say I’ve met them tho to really tell.
I'm so glad I never went through with my purchase on this one. As one new owner put it "some parts of my Grenadier looks like it was put together by a 5-year old". Hopefully they cleaned up some of the quality control issues but after seeing this review, especially with the steering, I feel even better having skipped this.
What quality control issues? where can I find more information about that?
You missed out by not going through with it! It’s amazing and hands down my favorite car I have owned. The review was good but didn’t do it justice.
The quality has been outstanding and I have had only 1 minor issue.
Zero quality problems on mine. It’s completely solid, and incredibly fun to drive. It isn’t a stellar highway cruiser, but for camping on off-road trails or to take to the beach as a second/third car, it’s awesome.
So what’s the problem with 5-year-olds putting together their dream car? Most of us who own them are man-children so it’s a perfect match.
Tesla asks more money for cars with worse build quality, so I wouldnt call that a dealbreaker
I just test drove the dark blue one you showed at 8:47 (top right) in Nashville. Loved it.
You want the fan off in wading mode because the viscosity of the water can pull the fan blades into the radiator or engine. Plus the sudden shock loading of the fan isn't good for the motor or the fan.
Y'all need to fight and get it out of the way!
Waiting is so that you don't break off the radiator fan blades in the water when it switches on while you are crossing deep water. You deactivate the fans to prevent this.
I sense some tension here. They not getting along?
Proper steering, portal axles, 35" tires, and a central tire inflation/deflation system. That's literally all this needs to become a full-blown offroad vehicle. The rest of it is already there.
There is one just like you asked..but these guys decided to review the one 400 other reviewed have already done 🙄
Portal axles are stupid expensive and not necessary at all lol
It already is very capable of road. It's also very usable on road - as it is designed.
The guy wanted and used all the best off the shelf components and a reputable company to build it. He did all that.
@@mcnuggetapple stupid expensive, yes. But compared to lifting the suspension, it retains the original geometry MUCH better, and is much more reliable in the long run as a result. See: every single Gelandewagen and Unimog ever made with portals.
@@3204clivesinclair except for the steering. That's a straight up cost cutting measure.
I found the recipe if you want to make of of these at home. Defender body, but sprinkle in some G-Wagon style (look at the bumpers), add a bmw drivetrain, use a Nissan armada infotainment screen, smart car steering wheel, everything else is a generic from autozone or eBay.
Edit: and a Volkswagen Jetta key.
The steering and turning radius - the concept of “road” is more of a suggestion than a physical limitation for the Grenadier. I mean, we like knowing it’s there, but if we happen to wander off into a field or down into a ravine, no big deal. It’s called a “scenic detour.” Eventually, we’ll find the road again, at some point.
Also, your remark “if my wife needed to drive this, I would not buy it . . .” - that’s a feature, not a defect.
Ben Hardy watching this review video for sure
I would buy one of these. It’s a poor man’s G Wagon.. Also, the quirky little design features are part of the appeal of this design and vehicle..
Nice work guys…
Its got a low geared recirculating ball steering which is best for off road as it reduces steering kick back.
Then remember its a ladder frame chassis with solid axles, also best for off roading, which explains the ride and handling. A BMW Defender would be a better analogy perhaps.
I love how Jakob responds when he doesn't get some of Yuri's references like the rc plane and that snow bulldozers thing. lol
These are really growing on me!
We rented a new X3 through Sixt in Europe a couple weeks ago, and turning off the speed warning was the first thing we did before driving any further (or the first thing we forgot after driving away). The beep is so annoying.
This thing is cool. Love the ceiling / sunroof.
I actually really love what he's done here. It has a lot of character, which so many cars lack (vintage new). 😮👌🏽 However, I hope they are able to address some of those handling issues to make the thing feel a little more manageable & safe on the road, where it will likely be driven 98% of the time.
Can you honk both horns at once?
We all hope that you guys can resolve the underlying situation because it's obvious that you guys are not getting along right now.
Bold, capable, and stylish
Re: the loose steering, some Aussie reviewer said it's for off roading. So when you hit obstacles, it's not jerking the steering wheel on impact.
How is it on the road compared to a wrangler and bronco?
From Top Gear - "The Grenadier uses a recirculating ball set-up, a heavier and more ponderous solution than its rack and pinion equivalent but also much more robust and shock-proof off-road. It needs 3.85 turns lock-to-lock and doesn't self-centre, so driving the Ineos in town can be quite the workout. "
Nice
they did not design it to be this way. he steering issue is a symptom of an alignment issue. mine did that when it was delivered, but i had it aligned by the dealer to spec and it's totally fine now. the return to zero issue is still there, but it doesn't bother me.
The fact that the steering is off sucks but otherwise looks like a great off road vehicle !
This was designed to be a hard-core offroad vehicle for farmers, utility companies etc. and that's why feels less than precise on the road. Obviously many of these are never going more off-road than the local shopping mall but it's intended to be more at home lugging workers to mines or searching for broken powerless far off the beaten track.
The original Defender has a transmission brake rather than a parking brake (safer off-road but you'll trash the entire driveline if it's used when in motion (so no use for drifting).
you should go to the rimac dealer in montreal... or if you want a vinfast theres also a dealer in montreal
Ive been keeping up with them for years now and wanted one. Sadly, as I expected, they’re too much for me but maybe one day I’ll be able to afford them..but i doubt it
Just watched Jenny Nicholson's Evermore theme park review before this. Rich guys building wacky things 90% for themselves and 10% for everyone else: if nothing else it's always interesting to see the results, and makes for fun youtube videos.
I just noticed this vehicle yesterday parked outside the store in Vancouver... now i know what it is!
if the fan is spinning full speed when it hits the water it could break some fins off or even break the whole fan off depending on how quickly it gets deep, in addition to spraying muddy water across the entire engine bay
The OEM Steering stabilizer is from from Ram 3500. Switch to Fox and all the issues are resolved.
If you've driven old jeeps you'd instantly know what steering play is...although it def looks weird on a newer modern model lul
Enjoyed the review. Have a Trialmaster and I agree with most of your comments.😊
a shame they don't offer a diesel in north america. That would've been an advantage over it's competitors.
Given the emissions regs on diesels it’s almost not worth it. This has plenty of power and torque.
Solid axle recirculating ball steering. It should be just like the Jeep Wrangler. The wheel not recentering has more to do with alignment. The cooling fan can be sucked into the radiator in water.
These hearty beasts have been ratcheted down too hard on flat beds for delivery and have had caster pulled out of spec which apparently has not been checked on a number of vehicles.
Design wise, looks like an old defender crossed with a G wagen and this is their baby
This brand new vehicle sounds like it steers about the same as my 1988 grand Wagoneer “the steering wheel points you in the general direction of where you need to go. “
Can't wait to see these get tuned.
Love that it’s a solid axle !!!
This is perfect. I hope they roll out more dealerships.
Wading mode turns off the radiator fan because the resistance from water can break a fast spinning fan blade off.
I wish there was more cars like this, made by a real person that actually uses the car
Yuri - now its time to feature some of your R/C experience!
I’ll buy an Rc plane and land it on cliche corner
@@TheStraightPipes Also, no lie, a flying view through cliché corner would be sick
Very cool, specially if you wanna feel like a Bond villain.
I was so close to getting one. But that steering was a deal breaker. I know it's for precise off-road control but really for a daily driver, I think they would have broader appeal if they had a more standard steering setup.
Lmfaooo the overhead panel switches legit look like airbus switches
I hate the rear lights, there's clearly a shape in the bodywork there for a custom light but for cost cutting reasons I guess they just implemented off the shelf round lights instead. Besides that it's cool, although not for me with it being a bit too agricultural in nature and that's fine, not everything has to be for me. Could've still done with a driver's display/gauges though.
Great video!!
The speed and lane departure beep would kill the deal for me. A darn shame I'd love to own one!
Yuri looks like he "indulged" before the review. 😂
I noticed too lol
Jacub looked mad at him and the review seemed a bit off 😅
Was that review shot in April 20th? 😇
Have you guys considered doing a podcast about cars? hosting other car UA-camrs and car people?
Why you rolling with 50psi in the tires?!
That’s how they gave us the car
@@TheStraightPipes Dealers never set things like that right.
Look up all the epas power steering class action suits on every brand of new car almost and that steering will make more sense to you I believe
This would need a speed variable ratio steering, 4 wheel steering, I6 turbo diesel, embedded filament windows defrost front and rear, inline antifreeze winter heater vs block, winter package, extra tow with air assist rear suspension leveling.
Wading mode : so the fan doesnt disintegrate while spinning when hits the water
self centering issue could be corrected in caster wheel alignment?
There is also a dealership im Framingham, Ma
KO Ineos where my Grennie will arrive in September.
👍 excellent. "The G-Wagon, BMW should have built." Very cool. Very true.
You should use seatbelt attachments and appropriate harnesses for dogs. Want to protect them from as much damage in a collision as possible.
Nope - leash on the bumper, Clark Griswold style
Got to shoot one in person, super cool. Just wish the interior was nicer for price
Absolutely not. We bought them for the build and capability and are absolutely trying our best to break them (not very successfully). Some GWagen or Pretender interior would be a waste of money. They need to stick with the priorities. Built On Purpose. Let everyone else go buy a GX 550 or Defender. Or drop another 50k on a custom interior and absolutely look like a tool.
Lada Niva next please
You can shift manually with the shifter in M/S Mode and it stays in manual, so not completely useless. 😅
Wanna see a B58 Stage 2 Tune in one of these. Does MHD support it? 😬
No idea why they call it a "Station Wagon" considering that we don't use that term in the UK, for a car like this we'd call it a 4×4, Off-Roader or SUV.
A "Station Wagon" in the UK would be known as an "Estate Car".
I might also add that the development of the Grenadier was started during the time after JLR discontinued the Land Rover Defender but before the launch of the new LR Defender-series, and the factory in Ambach, France where the Grenadier is built was formerly owned by Mercedes-Benz and used to build the Smart-cars before manufacturing was moved to China due to cost reasons.
Could be because the UK is irrelevant in 2024
The Smart production went to China because Geely owns 50% of Smart and has an EV plattform.
@ Yuri and Jacob it was developed by Magna-Steyr (which has nothing to do with Germany, it is a austrian-canadian company), not build. Mercedes sold the factory in Hambach (at the german boarder) to Ineos (which also owns 33% of the Mercedes F1 team) and they build them by themselfs. The german flag stands not only for the BMW engine but also for the transmission by ZF Friedrichshafen.
@@stefanfalldorf6573 Thank you for this.
Ineos should do a restomod of the Triumph TR6 or the original Mini.
Yeah, something interesting.
This thing is the opposite of everything that is happening to cars right now and I love it for that. If I could, I would buy one. Simple reliable, proven engineering. Old fashioned analog and switches everywhere.
Although I didn't like how it lifted its outside front wheel in those corners... Roll over prone?
It's cool but like hard to beat the Lexus GX or Toyota LC in terms of reliability
I saw a ton of these at Baltimore seaport and had no idea what they were
For the steering it sounds like the alignment has too much toe OUT . makes the steering super vague and doesn't return steer well also makes the turning angle horrible . Toe in makes it more responsive and snappy steer return.
It has almost no castor, it's solid axle like a jeep, you want 5-7 degrees for the knuckles but you at best can get 2 out of these. Somebody will make adjustable lower lcas will solve it. Think shopping cart with no offset wheels as opposed to them trailing in the front.
It’s an old BMW system software?
Fan off to prevent fan from breaking off in water cuz water is surprisingly heavy.