Ruf CTR "Yellow Bird" full laps on Nürburgring Nordshleife 1987 (Option Auto)

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  • Опубліковано 22 лип 2013
  • Faczination on Nürburgring (Nordschleife)
    Stephan Rozer on Board
    Ruf CTR1 Yellow Bird :
    Flat6 3.3 l, Twin Turbos KKK
    469 ch / 5 950 tr/mn
    56,4 mkg / 5 100 tr/mn
    1 222 kg
    0-100 km/h : 4.2 s
    400m D.A. : 12 s
    1 000 m D.A. : 21 s
    Max Speed : 342 km/h
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  • @CarlosPanades
    @CarlosPanades 9 років тому +4843

    No helmet, no gloves, no fear, just a couple pair of balls and skills! This is one of the greatest videos I've seen!

    • @cybertree
      @cybertree 9 років тому +167

      No kidding, perfect example of A *REAL* DRIVER! HE EVEN DID IT IN HIS SLIPPERS HAHA! XD

    • @CarlosPanades
      @CarlosPanades 9 років тому +1

      cybertree LOL

    • @gregv3920
      @gregv3920 9 років тому +56

      Carlos Panades NO SHOES!

    • @CarlosPanades
      @CarlosPanades 9 років тому +5

      Greg V LOL true!

    • @derkeiler6811
      @derkeiler6811 9 років тому +2

      Greg V Still shoes but only slipper.

  • @TheOneandOnlyGodHydra
    @TheOneandOnlyGodHydra 5 років тому +3593

    The steering wheel spends more time pointing to the outside of the turn than the inside. Absolute legend

    • @FearlessLeader2001
      @FearlessLeader2001 2 роки тому +97

      Just a little kick into the corner, then holding opposite lock, guiding that pendulum. Insane skill.

    • @marcusxenon
      @marcusxenon Рік тому +44

      @@FearlessLeader2001 Turn left to go right

    • @pedrosaulys9569
      @pedrosaulys9569 Рік тому +23

      That's the engine put in the rear

    • @arahok7675
      @arahok7675 Рік тому +15

      if was good, he would hold the world record even today, but no, instead to keep in track, these cars of that times wasted too much tire and TIME making the pilot compensating the angle.
      i really not miss these times, i'm glad that this lack of performance finally ended and today most cars obey our plan.

    • @arahok7675
      @arahok7675 Рік тому +2

      @@FearlessLeader2001 that is true, this pilot deserve all the respect

  • @estebanhernandez9165
    @estebanhernandez9165 Рік тому +1095

    Two legends, one's a machine, the other a car

    • @chrisS19019
      @chrisS19019 Рік тому +43

      That’s really good. I’m stealing that to say about myself wherever I can

    • @IloveGodGod
      @IloveGodGod 11 місяців тому +1

      Bro my name is Esteban Lopez Hernandez

    • @porrito66
      @porrito66 8 місяців тому +8

      ​@@IloveGodGodcredit card digits? just to check if they're the same too

    • @PaulWashington..
      @PaulWashington.. 7 місяців тому +1

      @@IloveGodGod Hello i also love God . Jesus Christ is Lord.

    • @ianportnoy4746
      @ianportnoy4746 6 місяців тому

      I want to like this comment, but I don't want to disturb the devil.

  • @j.d.3181
    @j.d.3181 3 роки тому +662

    Engineer: “Sir, here’s your helmet. Do you feel ready for this?”
    Driver: “My what?”

    • @zentaur966
      @zentaur966 3 роки тому +47

      Weight reduction bro

    • @alexm566
      @alexm566 Рік тому +17

      "Never wear one, it's a distraction"

    • @matttondr9282
      @matttondr9282 Рік тому +17

      Are we driving through a construction zone or something??

    • @discombob93
      @discombob93 Рік тому +9

      This was 1987. Almost guaranteed he didn't even have a seat belt 🙃

  • @MilianMalivukMusic
    @MilianMalivukMusic 5 років тому +2818

    Front axle: k let's take this turn
    Rear axle: I WANNA BE FIRST

    • @littledramaboy
      @littledramaboy 3 роки тому +39

      This is one of my favorite comments on UA-cam. Bless you.

    • @JMB-gt6of
      @JMB-gt6of 3 роки тому +4

      @@littledramaboy does this car have a front axle lol? its kind of dumb tbh

    • @littledramaboy
      @littledramaboy 3 роки тому +3

      @@JMB-gt6of good point, it would make more sense with "wheels" but it's still very funny.

    • @JMB-gt6of
      @JMB-gt6of 3 роки тому +4

      @@littledramaboy indeed don't let me ruin it tho XD

    • @joshjackburns
      @joshjackburns 2 роки тому +3

      @@JMB-gt6of well, the axles connect the wheels to the car so a car can’t drive without them

  • @N0thingIsTrue
    @N0thingIsTrue 9 років тому +1955

    Downforce provided by the sheer weight of the balls...

    • @malteins
      @malteins 6 років тому +5

      LOL

    • @TheRguru1
      @TheRguru1 6 років тому +16

      That must be why they didn't add any more aero bits or a bigger wing to the car. It just wasn't necessary ;)

    • @50037
      @50037 6 років тому +4

      And no Helmet !

    • @soplim8632
      @soplim8632 5 років тому +5

      They are very big and heavy steel balls

    • @sux2bu883
      @sux2bu883 5 років тому +4

      As much this thing is almost out of control, it must have street tires on it. He probably says soft compound tires takes the fun out of it.

  • @jez_77
    @jez_77 Рік тому +308

    7:04 is such a great moment too, his rear suddenly snaps while exiting the Carousel, but instead of lifting or panicking he just keeps his foot to the floor and powerslides through the entire next corner completely sideways. This video is an absolute definition of perfect car control

    • @istvanlorinczi2817
      @istvanlorinczi2817 6 місяців тому +17

      It's rear engined, had he lifted there, he would've hit the inside wall

    • @jez_77
      @jez_77 6 місяців тому +33

      @@istvanlorinczi2817 Yeah, I know. Thats why its great that he kept that powerslide whilst being under full control of the Yellowbird. And it looks badass af

    • @xphxntomx
      @xphxntomx 6 місяців тому +1

      Powerslides are so satisfying.

    • @Andrei-cp5jr
      @Andrei-cp5jr 6 місяців тому +6

      Had he lifted, he would dhave spun. All Porsche 911's do that. He really knows that car.

    • @sushimementomori7239
      @sushimementomori7239 4 місяці тому +1

      @@Andrei-cp5jrmy guy that’s not not just Porsches. If your rear is swung out with no corrections being made you’re gonna spin regardless.

  • @clockhanded
    @clockhanded 3 роки тому +303

    As legendary as this performance is, it makes me wonder the amazing driving that happens all the time on Nurburgring and elsewhere and never gets recorded.

    • @dazzledonkey
      @dazzledonkey 2 місяці тому +3

      Nowadays any fool can go round the Nurburgring at a fast pace. Back then, and even now, only a true maestro could weave a furious "widow maker" around there and come back home to dinner.

  • @Soknik01
    @Soknik01 7 років тому +2507

    You spend years behind the wheel and eventually are able to get your vehicle performing at what you assume must surely be close to the limit. Then one random afternoon you stumble upon some 1980s footage of a real driver taking corners at literally twice the speed you can, in a car that's orders of magnitude more difficult and dangerous to drive than your own...
    Feast upon the humble pie -

    • @1312_PV
      @1312_PV 5 років тому +126

      @@budlit1854 probably, why would it matter? So many woman drivers are LEAGUES above you.

    • @budlit1854
      @budlit1854 5 років тому +13

      @@1312_PV and your leagues under me.. judging by your channel pic. Fucking pussy hahahaha

    • @1312_PV
      @1312_PV 5 років тому +82

      @@budlit1854 I put my channel pic when I was like 14, many years ago, but you are still below 14 mentaly, considering all your arguments are lame failed attempts at trying to offend someone.

    • @1312_PV
      @1312_PV 5 років тому +48

      @Ryan Davidson I barely understood you, sorry, I'm not native.

    • @1312_PV
      @1312_PV 5 років тому +41

      @@budlit1854 Oh and also, BUD LIGHT is like drinking water, a 14 year old here drinks harder stuff than that shit ahahajahhahaha

  • @BillyBob-qf9th
    @BillyBob-qf9th 7 років тому +2081

    I'm glad to see he was wearing his safety socks.

    • @tbg008
      @tbg008 5 років тому +71

      It must be Ayrton Senna and his mocassim shoes.

    • @IrLosin
      @IrLosin 5 років тому +7

      This is the opposite of what Dutch people mean when we call someone a hero in socks

    • @jds6206
      @jds6206 5 років тому +1

      Nomex safety socks....

    • @moody1353
      @moody1353 5 років тому

      hahaahahahvavaahaahahhjykkdsha made my day

    • @Sean_Farmer
      @Sean_Farmer 5 років тому +2

      One of the best comments ever!

  • @98-SR5
    @98-SR5 3 роки тому +548

    Wow, I never realized how beautiful the scenery around the ring was, I've always been to busy watching E36 BMWs bounce between the walls.

  • @rootsmanuva82
    @rootsmanuva82 Рік тому +179

    They didn't call it the Widow Maker for nothing. Absolutely insane.

    • @tapsofosiris3110
      @tapsofosiris3110 3 місяці тому +2

      Nobody called the yellowbird the widow maker.

    • @Goobermint
      @Goobermint 2 місяці тому +3

      @@tapsofosiris3110 because they are all dead for taking their foot off the gas.

  • @kelly00000111111
    @kelly00000111111 4 роки тому +973

    How have I gone 30 years without seeing this video. Unbelievable driving.

    • @marcelk3847
      @marcelk3847 Рік тому +3

      Where are you from?

    • @stenovitz
      @stenovitz Рік тому +15

      @@marcelk3847 30 years walk from here?

  • @MrUltraworld
    @MrUltraworld 9 років тому +846

    470 HP with a 500 pound pendulum hanging off the back. As stable as a waterbed.

    • @yeahnahsweetas
      @yeahnahsweetas 5 років тому +35

      ...balancing on a rocking horse

    • @cattcameo
      @cattcameo 5 років тому +160

      His 500 pound cast-iron balls balance the weight

    • @DrBIeed
      @DrBIeed 4 роки тому +29

      Fred Garvin In the cars defense some of those slides were intentionally induced.

    • @TheGoodChap
      @TheGoodChap 2 роки тому +6

      And it doesn't even have the big tires, and I think this used an engine configuration where the engine was farther back which had already been abandoned by porsche lol

    • @ghomerhust
      @ghomerhust Рік тому +14

      yeah think about tires from the mid 80s putting up with this kind of torture. the skill it takes to keep this monster between the grassy sides is insane

  • @Soonzuh
    @Soonzuh 4 роки тому +211

    That sound at 14:51!
    It's like the anguished scream of a frustrated evil spirit.

    • @madmax2069
      @madmax2069 3 роки тому +48

      Lmao, well said.
      It's screaming because it's trying as hard as it can to kill him but is in anguish because it's unable to.

    • @BpgaMusic
      @BpgaMusic 8 місяців тому

      hands down the best clip. they needed more of those angles to catch his insane drifts.

  • @MrButterInaCan
    @MrButterInaCan 3 роки тому +866

    Crazy how he doesn't lift After the big straight and doesn't panic when he's on the grass at ~200mph.
    Absolute mad lad

    • @TheGoodChap
      @TheGoodChap 2 роки тому +76

      Every time he got remotely close to the grass I winced. If one wheel goes into the grass in a porsche with the weight in the back you're going to find yourself driving backwards at 100mph into a tree like all the others that have been widowmaked

    • @donblub
      @donblub Рік тому +25

      he lifts, just to get some weight on the front tires so he can turn, but he lifts, and the topspeed with this car at the end of the dottinger höhe is more like 180mph, maybe less

    • @tormentorxl2732
      @tormentorxl2732 Рік тому +18

      If you lift you spin out. Typical older 911 characteristic.

    • @donblub
      @donblub Рік тому +11

      @@tormentorxl2732 if you don't know what you are doing, yes.
      but that guy knows how to drive a car.
      on an old porsche, you don't have a lot of weight on the front wheels, so if you want to turn, you need to shift weight

    • @swishfpv821
      @swishfpv821 Рік тому +14

      @Bread And Circuses he recorded a speed of 211 mph on this lap

  • @petesliwa9316
    @petesliwa9316 5 років тому +1126

    There are 173 turns in the Nürburgring Nordschleife. That car attempted murder 174 times. God damn good driving though. Seeing newer cars (albeit lapping faster) looks boring because of all the driver aids and well tuned suspension, tires, etc. This lap was all driver input and no mistakes.

    • @viktort8229
      @viktort8229 4 роки тому +90

      I'd take being faster over bragging about "hurr durr driving aids and good tires make it too boring" I'm sure pro drivers of that era would do the same.

    • @exsappermadman25055
      @exsappermadman25055 4 роки тому +10

      Its an absolute animal!....

    • @lucastekkan
      @lucastekkan 3 роки тому +46

      I would take a well tuned car with good tires over a death machine anyday. Not only I will be faster, but also safer

    • @michaelczesnozki1671
      @michaelczesnozki1671 3 роки тому +23

      You know they turn all the aids off right? That’s why Track Mode on cars almost always turns off ABS, Traction Control, Steering Assist, etc.

    • @Car1osDanger
      @Car1osDanger 3 роки тому +28

      @@michaelczesnozki1671 false... adaptive steering is never "turned off" also the ecu and overall "brain" if you will is much more advanced. These days its extremely rare to see a manual 6 speed gearbox. Some have sequential manual transmissions with up to 7 or 8 gears. That means no heel toe, no rev match, no moment where you have to let go of the wheel to shift. You put Lewis Hamilton in a formula 2 or formula car from the Hunt, Lauda, Regnezonni, Moss era hed be toast... id love to see Lewis Hamilton battle it out with James Hunt... poor kid would be so frustrated only to find out that James Huntt wasnt even trying.

  • @marioskoutras6583
    @marioskoutras6583 8 років тому +2389

    This video gives me more adrenaline than any Ken Block video. It's real, not staged, this car is trying to kill you constantly, no tcs, no abs, nothing! It's like fighting a mad dragon and Stefan Rozer is the man who gives the finger to that dragon!

    • @CardizoneSemblance
      @CardizoneSemblance 7 років тому +134

      What stefan is doing is driving. Not being driven as most cars do for you.

    • @46467878
      @46467878 7 років тому +148

      Ken Block never claimed his videos aren't staged. They're both entertaining videos, no need to compare.

    • @Artel295
      @Artel295 7 років тому +42

      Ken Block just child))))

    • @46467878
      @46467878 7 років тому +32

      Artel295 Artel295 just fetus))))

    • @FEGTTTSDH
      @FEGTTTSDH 6 років тому +43

      if that is just "driving" well the new porsche 918 or zr1 or p1... stefan is only playing if he drives it. This ruf is not a car made for normal people

  • @rustyATV
    @rustyATV 3 роки тому +102

    13:17 Never noticed, before, you can hear the helicopter crew talking and laughing as he exits the carousel.

  • @elkey1000
    @elkey1000 2 роки тому +9

    Example why no car movie with best effects can match reality. One of the very best motor video ever made. Raw power and skills.

  • @yeetusdeletus9
    @yeetusdeletus9 7 років тому +551

    driver slows down after completing first lap*
    rear tires: "ITS FINALLY OVER, THE TOTURE IS FINALLY OVER..."
    driver: "but wait there's more..."

    • @kostman23
      @kostman23 5 років тому +10

      Are, Are you, are you talking about porn?

    • @Robert-Cinque777
      @Robert-Cinque777 4 роки тому +9

      Tires: here we go again

  • @flammenjc
    @flammenjc 7 років тому +1737

    Notice how he hoons it like a madman, but slows down to pass other road users safely and respectfully.
    How it should be done at the ring...
    How times change...

    • @CardizoneSemblance
      @CardizoneSemblance 7 років тому +158

      How it should be done at any track

    • @Icepacalapse
      @Icepacalapse 5 років тому +24

      "hoon" implies that it was staged and practiced while wrecking a bunch of cars.
      This is real.

    • @0xsergy
      @0xsergy 5 років тому +7

      @J.D. Turner barely sideways at all, tires were quiet

    • @thatoneweirdkid7385
      @thatoneweirdkid7385 5 років тому +3

      Seems like people have got that backwards.

    • @SpaceyCortex
      @SpaceyCortex 5 років тому +17

      Turistenfahren or Free laps for anyone that pay the toll ticket, should be for responsible fast driving and not about lap times. Overtaking during these rides is allowed left side only, just like german highways. Stupid things get you banned for the day, dangerous things get you banned for life.

  • @smokeyrandy7572
    @smokeyrandy7572 4 роки тому +75

    16 minutes of glorious driving followed by 2 hours of laughing my ass off at the glorious comments!!!!

    • @dividedstatesofamerica2520
      @dividedstatesofamerica2520 2 роки тому +2

      These shitty comments always make the experience worse. Isolating the video itself puts me in a better mood until I move on to the cancerous comment section.

    • @smokeyrandy7572
      @smokeyrandy7572 2 роки тому +5

      @@dividedstatesofamerica2520 Um, you realize you don't have to read the comment section?

    • @dividedstatesofamerica2520
      @dividedstatesofamerica2520 2 роки тому

      @@smokeyrandy7572 Suck it up and take some fucking power dumps.

    • @leepicgaymer5464
      @leepicgaymer5464 Рік тому +1

      @@smokeyrandy7572 No but i have to scroll down and the only things my eyes see are the comments

  • @olliemorgan974
    @olliemorgan974 2 роки тому +68

    This might be some of the most skilful driving I have ever witnessed. It is car control on a whole other level, how he didn't make 1 mistake I have no idea. As remarkably unbalanced as that chassis is, the way driver predicts it's movements and winds the oppo' lock on is absolutely mesmerising!

    • @RST9413
      @RST9413 3 місяці тому +1

      is not unbalanced,lol. This is the purpose. He use the weight of the car for turn in. if it was an 50 50 ,it will slughish like hell . thats one reason why Porsche is one of the best.

  • @robertwaffel8248
    @robertwaffel8248 8 років тому +1098

    The problem with having such a capable test driver is no matter how lethal the car is (like the CTR) he will always say "No it's fine. Easy to handle. I had no problem tossing it down the Nordschleife." - Result: EVERY CUSTOMER WILL DIE! :-) :-)

    • @volvo245
      @volvo245 7 років тому +69

      Lol indeed. But i have to wonder if this guy actually thought that....That cabin is full of arms and legs every second of the drive.

    • @shaft9000
      @shaft9000 7 років тому +12

      LOL...the gap between truth and fantasy

    • @jjhpor
      @jjhpor 5 років тому +95

      Anybody who thinks he can get in a car like that and drive like that without years of practice and unnatural ability is a good candidate for Darwin's sideroad.

    • @Marauder1981
      @Marauder1981 5 років тому +3

      Then he is a rubbish test driver. But I get your point.

    • @Kmancanada
      @Kmancanada 5 років тому

      😂

  • @unrealeck
    @unrealeck 5 років тому +858

    30+ years later, that's still FAST.

    • @ChrisJones-yu9rz
      @ChrisJones-yu9rz Рік тому +25

      That set a record for a long time actually, but yes you are correct sir! That shit is still fast

    • @The-KP
      @The-KP Рік тому +8

      Drive it like you stole it!

    • @alphatrion100
      @alphatrion100 Рік тому +2

      Sliding often means you are losing time.
      F1 cars don't slide

    • @hustlerfour
      @hustlerfour Рік тому

      @@alphatrion100 man shut up

    • @mikblues_146
      @mikblues_146 Рік тому +24

      @@alphatrion100 Depends, if that were the case, rally cars wouldn't slide

  • @gerdhermann752
    @gerdhermann752 Рік тому +60

    I've watched this about 100 times...the driver is a MACHINE! This is 'changing direction with your right' foot at its best....🤩

    • @GregoryShtevensh
      @GregoryShtevensh 3 місяці тому

      Yep, he hold such a drastic slip angle, which is why he is able to corner so damn fast.
      Amazing to watch when you realize what he is doing.
      He fully understands the typical Porsche characteristics, clearly

  • @quackers4207
    @quackers4207 Рік тому +30

    this is just beautiful! a terrifying dance between man and machine. you can see the wheel being tossed back and forth from the front wheels and him fighting it back in line. just awesome, love 80s Porsche. those were real sports cars. race cars on the road

  • @ALT3REDB3AST
    @ALT3REDB3AST 9 років тому +371

    No traction control. No abs. No torque vectoring. No helmet. No shoes! All skill, and nerves of steel! It's been awhile since I watched this incredible display of REAL driving!

    • @Ignacio.Romero
      @Ignacio.Romero 5 років тому +1

      In 1987 both ABS and TCS already existed

    • @buckorooster
      @buckorooster 5 років тому +22

      Ignacio Romero TCS and ABS were both rarely used in cars though around that time, and the CTR definitely didn't have either

    • @Ignacio.Romero
      @Ignacio.Romero 5 років тому +4

      @@buckorooster All premium cars at that year had, at least, ABS

    • @buckorooster
      @buckorooster 5 років тому +16

      @@Ignacio.Romero It's funny you mention 1987, that's the year of my Starion ESi-R which does have rear ABS, but most cars definitely did not have TCS. This CTR though was based off the Carrera 3.2 which never came with ABS.

    • @Ignacio.Romero
      @Ignacio.Romero 5 років тому +4

      @@buckorooster Well, I did a bit more research. Like I said, most premium cars had ABS, but the yellowbird, f40 and others aren't premium cars, they are supercars. My wrong for assuming they would be equipped with ABS since other luxury cars (from Mercedes and BWM for example) did have ABS

  • @sjk6097
    @sjk6097 5 років тому +305

    Stefan Roser....legend. What a drive....skill WAY beyond us all.

    • @JoCo480
      @JoCo480 Рік тому +19

      Thank you for the name, I was wondering. Thats one to remember.

  • @themr.bigpig7709
    @themr.bigpig7709 3 роки тому +240

    Kdo je tady od Koza Bobkov? 😂

  • @sepplmeier6637
    @sepplmeier6637 2 роки тому +27

    Zitat Walter Röhrl: „Am besten ist ein Mittelding zwischen untersteuern und übersteuern mit der Tendenz zum Drift!“
    Nach diesem Video weiß ich was der Walter damit meint! 🤩🤩🤩🤩
    Das ist eines der besten Videos die ich je gesehen habe 👍

  • @ianwilmoth
    @ianwilmoth 7 років тому +87

    The dude seriously flicks it into every single corner and then countersteers, even at 150 mph. I'm in love.

  • @demontwashington5388
    @demontwashington5388 9 років тому +401

    That's a hell of a piece of driving. Man, the transitional behavior of that thing is just pure evil, but he's clearly mastered it. Amazing skills.

    • @BollocksUtwat
      @BollocksUtwat 8 років тому +1

      +Demont Washington I assume its the boost that's making him fight it.

    • @SquillyMon
      @SquillyMon 8 років тому +49

      +Demont Washington They arent evil...they got that reputation from Green or no driving skills of Lawyers and Doctors who thought they could drive. The tail happy character of 911's is well known. After that you use it to your advantage...no car communicates what it is doing or about to do better than these 911's. Not the cars fault if you dont speak its language.

    • @ianwilmoth
      @ianwilmoth 7 років тому +5

      It's for people who know what they are doing but it's still dangerous. And that's why we all marvel at the results. Like a lion tamer!

    • @TheRguru1
      @TheRguru1 6 років тому +14

      It's probably to do with how most people simply aren't used to the way they handle. After all, 911's are the practically the only cars with a rear engine placement (some exceptions, but most of which were discontinued long ago). Most people might be trying to drive it like a front or mid engined car, but the 911 has always required a completely different driving style.

    • @TheRguru1
      @TheRguru1 6 років тому +2

      Ian Wilmoth I think a lion would be a lot less scary than this car XD

  • @carlosmartin1995
    @carlosmartin1995 3 роки тому +28

    This is art guys, remember it for generations like a Beethoven symphony.

  • @Bobsofax64
    @Bobsofax64 9 місяців тому +4

    Full send on the straights and "easy" corners, drifting around the "slower" ones. All that in a fully analog, bright yellow axe murderer. The amount of skill, balls, track knowledge and luck to perform this masterpiece of driving, on an open Nordschleife no less, is hard to comprehend. WOW!

    • @SuperLeafyman
      @SuperLeafyman 7 місяців тому

      Luck? You had me until that

    • @Bobsofax64
      @Bobsofax64 7 місяців тому

      @@SuperLeafyman Luck with the traffic

  • @sethmorton1856
    @sethmorton1856 8 років тому +456

    Can you imagine being one of the cars he rips by? This would be the equivalent of seeing a next-gen Koenigsegg drift by you on the track. There was nothing else that could match this car in the 80s.

    • @moejr1974
      @moejr1974 8 років тому +83

      It took the McLaren F1 to break the yellowbirds ring record in 94.

    • @jonsku321
      @jonsku321 7 років тому +10

      really? not even a f40?

    • @sethmorton1856
      @sethmorton1856 7 років тому +50

      jonsku321 Yeah I doubt it. F40 wasn't nearly as fast.

    • @moejr1974
      @moejr1974 7 років тому +50

      The official Yellowbird time on the ring is 8:05. I cannot find the F40 nor F1 times for the full ring. I did find one for the F40 for the smaller ring config at 7:40. I made an error. It was the Jag Xj220 that broke the yellowbirds ring record

    • @Beolex
      @Beolex 7 років тому +29

      True, I wish I could go back in the 80's and see what "exotic" and "supercar" must've been like. Today they still, perform and sound amazing, can you imagine back in 1987?

  • @jermaineonealnumber7
    @jermaineonealnumber7 8 років тому +991

    14:49 I mean, are you kidding me?

    • @herberthans7015
      @herberthans7015 5 років тому +386

      you don't see much stuff like this anymore. that's because it's forbidden to upload sexual content to youtube.

    • @von...
      @von... 5 років тому +10

      @@herberthans7015 I see you too were recommended this video recently lmao

    • @benzintrinker5821
      @benzintrinker5821 5 років тому +21

      @Timothy McSweeney Yes they do... damn algorithm have become smart but they will never be genious enough to drive a car round the ring like that. holy shit

    • @TheCorrectionist1984
      @TheCorrectionist1984 5 років тому +71

      And 4:11. That much counter street at that speed. Insane.

    • @Adam-FR
      @Adam-FR 5 років тому +17

      That driver blew my mind. Masterful. 🤯

  • @pyklwheostanzan6901
    @pyklwheostanzan6901 Рік тому +22

    this is just.... INCREDIBLE
    the amount of skill he has is just sickening... hats off to you sir!
    Everything about this is perfection... the track.. the car... the shifts, and drifts.. the countersteers... your a god among mortals at driving.

  • @thomasgreen1557
    @thomasgreen1557 4 роки тому +29

    Stephan is 100% in sync with the car during this run. He knows exaclty what she is going to do and wont do.

  • @opmike343
    @opmike343 10 років тому +500

    This guy has two sets of balls running in SLI.

    • @quintin359
      @quintin359 7 років тому +62

      opmike343 Sack linking interface

    • @SneakySandhu
      @SneakySandhu 7 років тому +3

      +Whatsit Tooyah LMAO

    • @sieve5
      @sieve5 6 років тому +1

      EPIC LULS

    • @lucywucyyy
      @lucywucyyy 6 років тому +2

      sli sucks tho

    • @iaial0
      @iaial0 5 років тому

      @@lucywucyyy but the jokes on it do not

  • @AdventuresWest
    @AdventuresWest 9 років тому +149

    No motorcyclists were harmed in the making of this video

    • @stevebell4853
      @stevebell4853 5 років тому +27

      .....but local underwear sales were up considerably.

    • @theonlynontrollhere
      @theonlynontrollhere 4 роки тому +1

      A few of those corners had brown hazards after some of those drift passes though

  • @pan17awa
    @pan17awa 3 роки тому +18

    this video alone is the living embodiment of "Turn left to go right." what a fucking legend.

  • @microbuilder
    @microbuilder Рік тому +20

    Man, you could almost feel the car get nearly weightless at the top of some of those crests, all that weight up in the air just flying...amazing run!

  • @wernotdonewithu3132
    @wernotdonewithu3132 9 років тому +96

    The 80's really *were* crazy. People lived by mottos like "Nothing succeeds like excess." , "The sky's the limit." and "What can't be acquired with money can be with more money." The cocaine they sniffed embodied all those mottos perfectly both figuratively and literally.
    Ruf CTR - and outrageous car for an outrageous era.

    • @signs80
      @signs80 6 років тому +5

      WeRnotDone WithU Damn I sure wish I was alive back then. It was peak America basically

    • @thelessofyouthebetter7002
      @thelessofyouthebetter7002 5 років тому +2

      word!

    • @CallMeMrX
      @CallMeMrX 5 років тому +1

      Not to mention Group B :D

    • @ile911
      @ile911 5 років тому

      @King Brilliant why ? Did you live in soviet union ?

    • @seanm.collins9888
      @seanm.collins9888 3 роки тому +2

      @King Brilliant transformers, gi joe, masters of the universe,...............

  • @Anaxarxes
    @Anaxarxes 5 років тому +46

    the amount of mechanical grip of cars being increased over the years is astonishing.
    This looks more rallying than track driving. Amazing skills, what a great driver!

  • @ghomerhust
    @ghomerhust Рік тому +9

    seriously one of the greatest Ring videos ever made. this guy hangs it all out! in a bone stock Bird. stunning and beautiful!

  • @lloyd324
    @lloyd324 Рік тому +8

    That is more impressive than the newer faster times to me. Lively would be an understatement. Great driving.

  • @bryanfle
    @bryanfle 8 років тому +323

    114 times. Thats the number of times that I counted when he should have lost control and binned the thing. At least he had proper safety equipment. Gotta be hard to work the pedals like that with balls the size of church bells.

    • @wizedo
      @wizedo 6 років тому +34

      Well, that's the stuff with those rear engine cars. Indulge in the pendulum effect, make it do the work instead of fighting it and tame it by loading the rear tires as soon as possible. All sprinkled with smooth steering inputs. Stephan Rozer, a real master of that art.

    • @TheMediaparc
      @TheMediaparc 5 років тому +6

      @bryanfle Hahahahhahah 😂 lost it with the “church bells” 🔔 😂🔔

    • @lotusesprit38
      @lotusesprit38 4 роки тому

      😀😁😂

    • @Paulman50
      @Paulman50 4 роки тому

      But the more traction you loose on the rear the slower your lap time.

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 4 роки тому

      @@Paulman50
      Showmanship

  • @benoit1335
    @benoit1335 7 років тому +122

    i love how the trees grew so much since then hahaha

  • @GoldenEye0006
    @GoldenEye0006 4 роки тому +26

    This is what i call "dynamic driving"

  • @eatdirt13
    @eatdirt13 Місяць тому

    Still arguably the best Nurburgring video. This is a guy who knows the car 100% and knows exactly what it’s going to do with every input. Fantastic!

  • @TheGoodChap
    @TheGoodChap 7 років тому +123

    The amount of adrenaline in his body during this is probably enough to kill most normal animals.

  • @NEKROSE_
    @NEKROSE_ 5 років тому +430

    8:41 drones were really noisy back then

    • @Grumpy_old_Boot
      @Grumpy_old_Boot 5 років тому +124

      Ah yes, we called those "Helicopters" … it's one of those weird drones with only 2 propellers, very strange!

    • @afilleduptaco
      @afilleduptaco 5 років тому +16

      Grumpy ol' Boot r/wooosh

    • @JHX1
      @JHX1 5 років тому +2

      And fast!

    • @eoinsweetman9263
      @eoinsweetman9263 5 років тому +61

      @Obese Taco double whoosh.

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 4 роки тому +3

      @@Grumpy_old_Boot it's not even a propeller

  • @Housesider
    @Housesider 2 роки тому +1

    This driver is insanely talented, obviously. Driving this car in video games would make you think the absurd oversteer is exaggerated even just a tad, but this video reaffirms the pure lunacy that is the reality that this car ever made it to market.

  • @galvanizado7071
    @galvanizado7071 Рік тому +6

    vengo por billy cherokee, SUEÑO CONTIGO

  • @bradman7281
    @bradman7281 5 років тому +170

    7:07 Jesus, it just won't quit oversteering!

    • @tankiller9638
      @tankiller9638 4 роки тому +39

      Thats the lovely turbo reminding the driver that it will kill him if he gets too cocky lol

  • @AMERICANPSYCHO73
    @AMERICANPSYCHO73 7 років тому +349

    This might be the best driving video around the Nordschleife ever recorded. In a today's world where high-tech computer systems makes anyone a 10X better driver than they really are, this video is all balls and pure skill. Stefan Roser - wherever you are, I tip my hat and raise my Pilsner to you, good sir. No one will ever make a 911 dance like you did. #blackbelt

    • @Hyp33rX
      @Hyp33rX 7 років тому

      Word! Absolutely

    • @46467878
      @46467878 7 років тому +19

      Oh please, I'm tired of this "back then everything was better" bullshit, with all due respect. If the current regulations allowed this, I'm 100% sure a nut pro driver would attempt to do something like this. I like current cars better, why? They have the best of both worlds. You have insane performance with enough driver's assistance tech to keep your ass alive. I guarantee you those folks form the "golden age" of cars would do anything to drive these new cars instead.

    • @AMERICANPSYCHO73
      @AMERICANPSYCHO73 7 років тому +41

      Stop your clucking, little chicken... It appears you completely mis-read my post. I'm not making a comment about which cars are better (modern versus old-school); rather, I'm simply making a comment about Stefan Roser's driving skills, especially considering the absence of various traction control systems, chassis control systems, double clutch transmissions, etc. It takes 10X the skill and 10X the balls to drive that Yellow Bird, than it does a modern GT3RS. The debate of which car is better is no different than arguing apples and oranges.

    • @46467878
      @46467878 7 років тому +16

      "It takes 10X the skill and 10X the balls to drive that "
      No it doesn't. It's slightly harder, not as safer, but definitely not as challenging as you make it seem.
      Pro drivers these days can definitely drive like this if not much better. The only reason it doesn't happen is due to new regulations.
      I guess what I'm trying to say is, drop the elitist attitude and quit sounding like a neckbeard.
      Ex: "I tip my hat and raise my Pilsner to you, good sir. No one will ever make a 911 dance like you did."

    • @Chewygsxr
      @Chewygsxr 7 років тому +2

      AmericanPsycho73 for sure, he was on the edge every second, he was correcting his steering constantly with precise precision.

  • @daveevans4356
    @daveevans4356 4 місяці тому +1

    One of the best pieces of car control I've ever seen, all done on the world's most unforgiving track. Whilst wearing white socks!! Balls the size of spacehoppers

  • @BoostedSpeedDemon
    @BoostedSpeedDemon 9 місяців тому +1

    This is the best driving video of a production car I've ever seen. Hands down, share it as often as possible. This was a masterpiece

  • @Hempflakes
    @Hempflakes 9 років тому +142

    This video is a great example of how difficult it can be to drive these rear-engined, rear-wheel drive cars. It also shows how bumpy nordshleife is, lol.

    • @TopiasSalakka
      @TopiasSalakka 9 років тому +25

      This car came to Assetto Corsa and it is indeed very hard to drive, even in a simulator :/

    • @Hempflakes
      @Hempflakes 9 років тому +5

      I have to admit, I didn't know about this car until A.C. I knew about the 911 though. A rear-engined rear wheel drive car is bound to be hard to drive xD but very fast and efficient.

    • @CB-RADIO-UK
      @CB-RADIO-UK 9 років тому +2

      Hempflakes Same here. Its a tough old bugger to drive fast in AC but they have nailed the sound.

    • @calom4823
      @calom4823 9 років тому +1

      Those car was realy rear engine , recently porsche have start to cheat a little by getting the engine closer to the middle and still calling it rear engine :P .
      Annyway im not against little moer stability when i seen that lol .

    • @stressbizzle
      @stressbizzle 9 років тому +1

      Topias Salakka I took about an hour trying over and over to finish a single lap of the tourist circuit in it on the default setup/tyres, finally managed a 7:56.36. Ragged as hell and a real monster to drive, great fun though.

  • @dryjointdave
    @dryjointdave 8 років тому +189

    at 4.05 he takes his right hand off the wheel while doing about 150mph to re-adjust his LARGE kahunas. great vid

    • @playingretro3636
      @playingretro3636 5 років тому +5

      I didn't notice, seems that he usually does readjusting on the edge LOL!

    • @TheMediaparc
      @TheMediaparc 5 років тому +2

      dryjointdave «Kahunas» 😂😂😂

    • @GewelReal
      @GewelReal 4 роки тому +11

      He was just shifting the ballast

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 4 роки тому

      @@TheMediaparc
      👍 yes!
      ... cajones
      But yeah, funny either way

    • @FOH3663
      @FOH3663 4 роки тому

      @@GewelReal
      Exactly! ... ballast
      Gewel ✔ = Genius

  • @jfv7202
    @jfv7202 5 місяців тому

    When the car you are driving knows you perfectly and you know perfectly the car you're driving...Stephan Rozer was not the ruf's test pilot for nothing!!! Perfect technique ( his brake placement, steering and acceleration control are just impressive) and knowledge about what you can and can't do with a 911 !! again and again congratulations Mr Rozer and congratulations of course at you, beautiful "Yellow bird" 😃!!

  • @ChristophersGopro
    @ChristophersGopro 7 місяців тому +1

    To me what makes it so impressive, is he is truly using the natural oversteer to his complete advantage. No time for E brakes, he trusts the heavy rear (and grip) of that car. As well as his lack of gear lol. Truly one of the best videos I’ve ever seen

    • @wiLdchiLd2k
      @wiLdchiLd2k 7 місяців тому

      As often luck is mistaken for skill...

  • @RanLinlayrian
    @RanLinlayrian 5 років тому +70

    Probably the most counter steering needed I've seen on the ring. The true widow maker, hands down.

    • @OxBlitzkriegxO
      @OxBlitzkriegxO Рік тому +3

      a lot of that counter steering was forced. the car didnt need to be turned in like that on many of the corners.

    • @pugachevskobra5636
      @pugachevskobra5636 Рік тому +1

      I find myself doing the same thing playing RaceRoom lmao. Afterwards I say “wait I didn’t need that much countersteering, Jesus” and then I wince in embarrassment.

    • @putinski666
      @putinski666 Рік тому +7

      ​@@OxBlitzkriegxO these cars are butt heavy and notoriously understeery if you try to enter corners the traditional way. But yeah this dude's thrashing it around like it owes him money.

  • @derlandvogt11
    @derlandvogt11 9 років тому +169

    I had the luck to know Stefan Roser and to drive 2 or 3 times with him (even the Yellow Bird :-) ) He was the Ken Block of the 80´s, but, without Internet and UA-cam he was not famous. There are cars, wich are easier to handle than a Porsche, but he "felt" the car perfect... I will never forget it!

    • @jamesshunt5123
      @jamesshunt5123 5 років тому +44

      Ken Block is a stunt car driver, not a racer. When he tried to compete in the WRC (World Rally Championship) he was nowhere near the special section times of the world's elite. Ken Block is famous *exactly because of internet and UA-cam* not due to his *actual* skill as a racer.

    • @316creative2
      @316creative2 5 років тому +4

      @@jamesshunt5123 True, but to his credit, his failure at WRC and at World Rally Cross had much more to do with the car than with him. Ford couldn't field a competitive machine.

    • @urbananalrapist
      @urbananalrapist 5 років тому +7

      @@316creative2
      Pretty sure if you spoke to Ken, he would admit that he was the problem, and not the car.

    • @bagelitsandila4611
      @bagelitsandila4611 5 років тому

      I am officially jelaous of you, sir!

    • @twincammike8329
      @twincammike8329 5 років тому +2

      @@316creative2 lol he can't drive for shit...he crash every car he gets in... useless...

  • @leomux2004
    @leomux2004 Рік тому +2

    Driving in Nurburgring with the Yellowbird without any type of helmet and overall... This guy is a absolutely madlad!

  • @Chadabi
    @Chadabi Рік тому +9

    4:07 reaching between his crotch to adjust the car’s center of gravity, mad skills👏

  • @identiticrisis
    @identiticrisis 5 років тому +194

    This is a golden video. When I first saw it, it cemented in me the understanding that a good driver can anticipate the dynamics of the car and perfectly time their inputs to match. He would of course always be waiting for the car if he weren't timing the transitions so they end when he needs them to for the next input.
    Naturally he is still having to react to the car and road surface, but he does so in a way that returns complete control to him quickly. Also, you know you've got it sussed when the steering wheel is mostly straight going around corners!

    • @Scott19x
      @Scott19x 4 роки тому +15

      4:30

    • @jasonnandu
      @jasonnandu Рік тому +1

      He is assisted by lack of power steering, tc, abs. Just the raw driving experience, basically.

    • @nuckels188
      @nuckels188 9 місяців тому +3

      Rear engine explains the straight wheel. Old (pre 1995) porsche explains the car trying to kill him

    • @m1co294
      @m1co294 6 місяців тому

      The wheel moves according to where the car wants to go, it's not all totally calculations.

    • @riquelmeone
      @riquelmeone 5 місяців тому

      @@m1co294it’s a bit more complex than that in a car like that. your sentence makes sense when he is on the straights, the moment he enters the corners, your sentence goes out of the exhaust

  • @twococksproduction
    @twococksproduction 5 років тому +90

    *puts on slippers*
    imma slay the track today....

  • @Good_Horsey
    @Good_Horsey 7 місяців тому

    Couldn't tell you how old I was when I first watched this, but I can for sure say this footage is why I fell in love with the Nordschleife.

  • @nomadben
    @nomadben 3 роки тому +3

    Utterly magnificent driving! I was laughing out loud during some parts, it was so exciting to watch.

  • @heamees4822
    @heamees4822 6 років тому +89

    Based on Assetto Corsa and this amazing footage, this car is one of the rawest and craziest driving experiences you can have

    • @69kiyo69
      @69kiyo69 4 роки тому +7

      yep, still my favourite car in Assetto corsa with Street vintage tires ♥ love that car,you cant hassitate on one second ! cause you are dead :D and thas why i love this car.. You have to give it all you´ve got...Im driving it on like 110% :D

    • @highoffgunpowder8208
      @highoffgunpowder8208 4 роки тому +6

      In project cars this car is mental as well 😂

    • @nicogentz4588
      @nicogentz4588 3 роки тому +1

      Gallardo SL Step 3 on street tires joined the chat

  • @GewelReal
    @GewelReal 4 роки тому +52

    13:42 OMG YES BABY!

    • @dominickruiz1240
      @dominickruiz1240 3 роки тому +1

      Hell yeah! I love that still shot, see the CTR flying through that corner sideways...

  • @MrBomb-cn2ym
    @MrBomb-cn2ym 3 роки тому +94

    Kto je tu od Koza Bobkov ?

  • @alexandervanwyk7669
    @alexandervanwyk7669 3 роки тому +1

    Incredible scary, however priveleged to watch from my PC. Must take insane amount of concentration and ring experience to keep that thing at that limits on the road. Congrats and thanks for sharing. Porsche pure passion of perfection.

  • @MrCavemanDave
    @MrCavemanDave 5 років тому +30

    This car is crazy, drives like it's on ice with the engine so far back. Sideways on straightaways. If I was one of those guys on a motorcycle seeing that thing coming up beside me, I would be terrified he is about to take me out.

  • @MrHungrySimon
    @MrHungrySimon 4 роки тому +90

    Came here straight after watching Yellowbird featured on Jay Leno's Garage.
    Really amazing car control, I would've binned it after 2 corners.

  • @jamesb8028
    @jamesb8028 Рік тому +4

    I love the speed wobble’s at 200mph going straight. This guy is bad ass

    • @ripptorr
      @ripptorr 6 місяців тому

      How do you know what speed he had?

  • @warrena8990
    @warrena8990 Рік тому +1

    Wow….now this dude can drive! Casual, no helmet LEGEND! Respect.💪🏼👍🏼

  • @youmustbethatninja
    @youmustbethatninja 8 років тому +186

    I was visibly sweating just watching this video.

    • @dopeymark
      @dopeymark 7 років тому +1

      tr comet mee too

  • @ledzeppelin27
    @ledzeppelin27 8 років тому +123

    you know you're playing too much forza when you know every single turn on a track that is 14 miles long. what a driver, what a car

    • @musewolfman
      @musewolfman 8 років тому +7

      +ledzeppelin27 Soooo true! Got my start on that track in GT4, moved up to Forza, now I'm honestly tired of it.

    • @mro9466
      @mro9466 8 років тому +22

      +LegacyMuse Time to do it in real life :p

    • @_TimTurb0_
      @_TimTurb0_ 5 років тому

      @@musewolfman blasphemy!

  • @JaimeBobby1776
    @JaimeBobby1776 2 роки тому +1

    The intentional power slides done precisely at specific places show this driver is completely in tune with this beast! I thought his wrist would snap going through the carousel. 😵‍💫

  • @adchuvghj2159
    @adchuvghj2159 7 місяців тому

    Ich frage mich, ob Misha dieses Auto so fahren könnte. Es ist definitiv kein Angriff auf die Bestzeit, sondern der beste Fahrspaß.
    große Fähigkeiten, ein so wildes Auto zu fahren.

  • @G0ML333
    @G0ML333 10 років тому +31

    No fear for his own life or the car, this is the definition of balls to the wall. Holy Sh*t!

  • @jellene4eva
    @jellene4eva 5 років тому +83

    driving on nordshleife like a rally stage

    • @ItsJustMetrion
      @ItsJustMetrion 3 роки тому +2

      Well, before they decided to renew the asphalt it was very comparable, like one big asphalt rally!

  • @martinmihalik
    @martinmihalik 3 роки тому

    No helmet
    No gloves
    No racing combi
    Just t-shirt with denim jeans and pure driving. Love it.

  • @sethurban410
    @sethurban410 Рік тому +1

    Looked at the rear view mirror and the intensity of this guy’s eyes while he drives is nothing but pure focus 😂😎🤘

  • @RoadRunner1980
    @RoadRunner1980 10 років тому +71

    Amazing! Is this driver even human? Sick skills.

  • @thefourthwall9022
    @thefourthwall9022 4 роки тому +34

    This guy is at one with his car, probably some of the most impressive skills I've ever seen.

  • @EstevanTH
    @EstevanTH Рік тому

    The amount of oversteer and the driver's expertise are so amazing!!!

  • @dayabloom9634
    @dayabloom9634 Рік тому

    By far one of the craziest and coolest onboard I saw, what an archive

  • @mx_nana_banana
    @mx_nana_banana 5 років тому +57

    ruf ctr "yellow bird" - the most efficient way to get rid of tyres.

    • @painxxxl
      @painxxxl 3 роки тому +2

      probably to get rid of yourself as well...:D

  • @aaronwoodcock4715
    @aaronwoodcock4715 5 років тому +47

    You have to take an oversteer turn with constant throttle. It's a scary thought, but if you let off the gas, kiss what stability you have goodbye, and say hello to possibly the wall.

    • @neilanderson891
      @neilanderson891 Рік тому

      That's what creates "lift-throttle-oversteer" ... that's why the C4 was invented. Porsche needed a less risky car for the masses. I'm one of the masses.

  • @RtB68
    @RtB68 6 місяців тому +1

    The balls. Holy mother of everything - this guy just impressed the hell out of me. Seriously opposite locked for almost half the lap.

  • @MisterRawB
    @MisterRawB 2 роки тому +2

    That steering wobble at around 4:15 had me cracking up for some reason ;D

  • @mchockney3664
    @mchockney3664 5 років тому +29

    Most legendary onboard footage ever captured at the Nürburgring!

  • @Munkenba
    @Munkenba 10 років тому +123

    0:45 is probably the most ballsy part of the video, even on playstation I'm too scared to go flat out on that blind hill

    • @yerrie1908
      @yerrie1908 10 років тому +22

      thats Flughplatz, fly place, it has that name with a reason ( ;
      But for race cars with ground effect it's flat out trough flughplatz

    • @Munkenba
      @Munkenba 10 років тому +9

      I think I'd evacuate my bowels upon landing g forces and shear terror every time

    • @TheGoodChap
      @TheGoodChap 10 років тому +75

      to think that if his grip was weakened and the wheel jumped out of his hands he would be gone in an instant. The stress of doing what he's doing here is what makes this driver so incredible, he was doing this lap just for fun and not to set a good time. His response to critics saying he was slowing his time while drifting in the corners was something along the lines of "When my wife and I have sex we're not always trying to have children".

    • @Munkenba
      @Munkenba 10 років тому +6

      TheGoodChap Never heard that one before, that's hysterical!

    • @yerrie1908
      @yerrie1908 10 років тому +4

      TheGoodChap
      you don't always make love to have baby's he said, but i guess its the sqme

  • @victor-uranium
    @victor-uranium 2 роки тому

    Harry's garage brought me here! Fantastic driving skills from Stefan Rozer.

  • @sasazapadnik9335
    @sasazapadnik9335 3 роки тому

    To drive like this, not many can do - especially in 2021. Telepathic memory of the track is needed, meter for meter. Not only being able to anticipate turbo lag upon acceleration, but also accounting for sudden burst of torque with each gearchange. It isn't recommended to correct oversteer in a Porsche 911, but with Mr. Rozier's sick sense for gravity, it's no problem.
    In a way, it is a blessing that a modern 991/992 Turbo S is so easy to manage, but it is becoming harder to distinguish who is genuinely a good driver vs. someone who relies on computers and aids.