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It's sad to think that many people will believe in this BS. Netflix shouldn't allow a misleading "documentary" like this in their platform. Such a shame!
Hi Ed. I love your videos and would like to know is holistic grazing is the same or similar as forest management with sheeps and goats? Maybe you have more info on that, because I have positive info that they help to reduce bush fires, because goats love eating all sort of spiky and hard bushes. So they let them go free in the area they want to reduce these invasive bushes to allow other plants to grow. Thank you I hope to hear from you soon.
woooooo Cleary you did not watch the whole documentary!!!! they said right near the end the two diets to move forward are VEGAN and a Regenerative Diet which removes factory farming. I prefer every one to GO VEGAN, but the claims you have made are quite in accuracy. When you stop tilling soil !!! only then you can rebuild soil heath that was the biggest push they were saying. are you for synthetic fertilizer and round up on soil to stop weed growth and pests, cause with out a NO Till system you will never achieve a soil pH that is conducive to high yeild plant growth and not weeds and pests this documentary had its faults by no were as bad as you just made it sound. Trust me I want a Vegan world but this would be the first step and reducing and stopping animal consumption will follow once a new system is set up. NO TILL is the future of Crop Production and that should be the take away from this documentary. Did you even Hear the word Vegan? cause it was said right near the end I was even shocked my self because "The Game Changers" did not even use that word.
It´s unfortunate that vegans delude themselves to the point that they believe animal agriculture is the primary cause of deforestation, when in reality it´s actually the construction industry. You know, building the usual stuff, like houses where people live (that includes self-entitled vegans). And deforestation itself isn´t even a problem, because it´s in the interest of private forest companies to restore and replant forest areas which result in massive profits for them. Companies like for example Brinkman, Terviva, Guayaki, Ecosia, Pueblo Nuevo, Komaza, Lyme Timber, Symbiosis, Tentree, BioCarbon Engineering, F3 Life, Domtar, EcoPlanet Bamboo, Hypro AB, New Forests, ConFor. These are just a few examples of forest companies from all over the world that annually invest millions and millions of dollars in reforestation projects (this is apart from the timber that they harvest). Not only are they all forced by Law to plant more trees, it´s also in their own interest to keep planting new trees because it means more profits for them. It´s simply idiotic the claim that vegans make that we are running out of forests. By the way, animal agriculture isn´t the leading cause of climate change. It´s fossil fuel emissions in the industrial sector. Metallurgy, plastics, brick & concrete production, car manufacturing, electrical energy production. The industrial sector is responsible for at least 75% of all global greenhouse gases, not animal agriculture.
I grew up in Zimbabwe, and when I heard how Alan Savory slaughtered 40,000 elephants on a whim, I was appalled. The work of Alan Savory must be dismantled and assigned to the dustbin of history. We must switch to a fully plant-based economy. Thank you for this much needed video! - Robbie
@@v.a.n.e. it's not a strawman because they weren't arguing against holistic grazing. They were just making the point that anyone who decides to slaughter 40,000 elephants clearly has some serious mental problems. So try harder next time
Organic farming is the future tho. Uses less water, less land and little to no chemicals and pesticides are used in contrast to industrial farming. Instead of animal fertilizers, we can use compost in organic agriculture, therefore no animals need to be bred for our consumption. I’m talking about organic crop production ofc.
@@moalenn Yes that is the important distinction, current 'organic' farming is more likely to use animal fertiliser. As a vegan, I avoid organic food. Veganic farming is the way to go!
@@bengilkes7676 unless you grow your own food, or know a farmer who does not use any animal fertilizer, you’re still buying vegi and fruits grown with animal fertilizer. Also, animal fertilizers are not the problem, it’s the animal agriculture and animal farming. As more people transition into veganism, the use of animal fertilizers will decline and the use of farming compost will rise.
@@moalenn I avoid organic, so the products I buy use LESS animal fertiliser. They are definitely a big part of the problem - use of animal by-products make them products. As a vegan I try to reduce my indirect support of the animal agriculture industry as much as possible.
Here in Brazil we can see damn well just how "regenerative" grass-fed beef production really is. Just take a look at what is happening to the Amazon just to make way for pasture land
They are cutting the Amazon down for mainly soy. Nothing to do with GRASS feed beef. And you should research some of the pastures that have been reverted from desert in America, Australia and Africa due to holistic farming practices.
@@jeremymartin3816 Over 91% of deforestation in the Amazon is directly related to animal farming -- over 79% of the world's soy beans are not for human consumption but for livestock feed. Nobody had to convince me on those numbers I have SEEN in person just how destructive livestock farming truly is. I hope you stop being selfish and emotionally attached to "your" meat and see the truth: killing animals is killing us too.
@@jeremymartin3816 here are some receipts for you. Globally animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation and species loss. Let's take some specific examples: "Cattle ranching is the largest driver of deforestation in every Amazon country, accounting for 80% of current deforestation rates. Amazon Brazil is home to approximately 200 million head of cattle, and is the largest exporter in the world, supplying about one quarter of the global market." - Global Forest Atlas, Yale University (globalforestatlas.yale.edu/amazon/land-use/cattle-ranching) Think about that next time you shove a burger in your face while you read about the Amazon burning. Or maybe consider Australia, where the livestock industry is again the primary cause of deforestation and consequent habitat loss, species extinction: "Projections suggest that 3 million hectares of untouched forest will have been bulldozed in eastern Australia by 2030, thanks to a thriving livestock industry and governments that refuse to step in." - Australia's Biodiversity at Breaking Point, The Guardian (www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/15/australias-biodiversity-at-breaking-point-a-picture-essay)
Yes deforestation for soy to feed to cattle. GRASS FEED cattle are FEED GRASS. It has nothing to do with regenerative farming at all so why being it up?
@@jeremymartin3816 Right because 70 billion animals aren't already eradicated every year for human consumption. That makes sense. I'd love to see the research you conducted to reach your fascinating conclusion.
@@jeremymartin3816 It's funny... you oppose a vegan farming system because you think it would eradicate animals, but you don't seem to mind all the animals who are slaughtered to satisfy your taste buds!
@@jueatsplants8154 rather than just being eradicated because they are a pest? Yes animals have a use, and we make money off them. So you would rather live in a world where the animals have no use at all in fact they are a pest to be killed and left to rot? Dosent sound like you care to much about animals at all.
@@jeremymartin3816 you're thinking about the best possible scenario in a non-vegan world, but then a vegan world, you think of the worst. Otherwise you wouldn't have made a comment like that.
Exactly and it’s mainly due to humans being more widespread and consuming more I’d say cut the population in half and stop gluttony because people eat too much food and that overconsumption then causes diseases
@@Assassin99584 Unfortuantely Sustainable doesnt cut it anymore. You cant sustain a degrading resource. You need to be Regenerative. Grasslands are one of the largest areas on the earths surface. Animals are integral in their regeneration. We know it can be done as its been done in the past. We just have to be smart enough to learn from that. But the good news is that its already happening and the movement is growing globally. So there is some hope.
That statement is correct. Science is done to prove or disprove a hypothesis. It is an observation of something that is already there but no-one had paid any attention to or had the ability to comprehend. That was the point he was making.
Omg, thaaaaank you for this. Allan Savory drives me mad. Horticulturalist and current enviro-science student here. People advocate for this here in Australia even though there are no large, cloven hoofed grazing animals native to Australia. In fact grazing animals are the reason for the extreme environmental degradation that occurred immediately after European settlement.
thanks for that experience. I would be grateful if you have any useful research list which covers this topic for Australia. I try to get the best information out there that I can.
Yep Savory drives me mad also. I recently read George Monbiots "Regenisis" and I can't disagree with his main arguments. If we have the technical ability to produce our protien, calorific and material needs without exploiting animals or burning fossil fuels, then to not pursue policy which leads us in that direction is nutty. I say this as a livestock farmer. I'm totally open to critiquing the system I'm embedded in if there's a better way.
Yes, cows emit carbon to the atmosphere, but, unlike fossil fuels, they don't add NEW carbon to the atmosphere. The carbon they emit came from the plants they ate, which in turn came from the atmosphere in the first place. It's a cycle, no new co2, just the same carbon circulating. We also have to take in consideration that plants and cows (through manure) store carbon in the soil, improving its fertility. So, claims like in 1:38 make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
This is so true but fundamental misunderstanding of "looking out for " animals and "caring for the environment". Presented as valid scientific review (it isn't) and advertising veganism in the top right hand corner. No prizes.
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ - ᛄᚢᛒᚨ emotional driven science* sorry, and its not gonna work btw. I'm sorry I came across as attacking, I can assure you it is all driven by a deep care for creating a better planet. I could find plenty of relevant sources but the incentive to want to find the true problems and the true solutions has to be there in the first place for a person to want to invest time in researching. Allan Savory's book is a great resources if a person holds these values described. I have about 100 links that I could share with you if that has any interest.
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ - ᛄᚢᛒᚨ this is a good one I was just re-watching. It is Walter Jehne a great great guy, absolutely non emotional driven science. ua-cam.com/video/123y7jDdbfY/v-deo.html
Because it isn't here anymore, there used to be many many herds larger than the eye could see, which maintained and regenerated much of the worlds ecosystems.
This is honestly dumb logic. Ed literally says in the video that the deforestation is caused by cattle that were led to go wild. This is why nature can’t simply exist. He really is contradictory in this video. I would advise doing your own research on this topic as Ed is extremely bias. He picks and chooses studies words them in away that is pro vegan it is very confusing and misleading. This is why identify politics and free thought can not coexist. The ego takes over as it seeks affirmation. Not to mention Ed’s lively hood is based on being vegan. His core beliefs are tied to his income.
@@Gustav4 👌🏻👌🏻 Ed no longer being vegan = no longer having a sustainable income. ^ this isn’t necessarily something that he is conscious of.It’s obvious that he cares for the environment. But he will never seek real truth if all he is doing is trying to win arguments it’s not sustainable he can’t keep this up. He’s at war everyday.
Regenerative agriculture has been practiced in the French countryside for years. However, before there were grasslands in these locations there were ... Woodlands ! And given the countless studies on woodland's ability to efficiently sequester loads of carbon, pastures , as holistically managed as they are, will never come close to locking away as much carbon .. Afforestation remains a better solution for doing so ..
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ mate I studied chemistry , sustainable agriculture as master level and now I’ve been an agronomist for 4 years. Forgive me if I don’t really need to watch UA-cam for facts on this topic. Carbon emissions are not the only factor in sustainability, for example soil health, crop rotation, soil ability and many more I could name. Your vegan utopia is flawed. But if you have read the news lately here in the uk subsidies are gonna be based on environmental impact so we are an industry that adapts hence why it’s one of the oldest. Animal produce methane, methane might be more potent, but it’s the CO2 from cars ect that are the real problem as it’s in the atmosphere for 100 years. Methane is gone in 12 years and some studies show that European agriculture systems sequester as much carbon as they produce. Obviously Amazon rainforest beef is terrible, no one denies that, but here in the uk it’s not bad. A lot of these studies include Amazon beef and it skews the studies but where you have established pasture land that are perfect conditions and climate for grass- why not utilise it.
Actually healthy grasslands have the potential to sequester far more carbon than woodlands do as they have a far denser root structures underground. Look up the work of scientists like Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham if you would like to know how it all actually works.
No not really because sequestration of carbon in the form of organic mater grown on regenerative farms has not been addressed in this video or by the scientific experts. Also scientists claim that the amount of organic matter grown on majority of regenerative farms is only possible over 100s of years which most are achieving over 10-20.
I just want to say that the quality of these videos is amazing. They are a work of art. The pictures, music, and powerful prose are in my opinion the best that can be found apart from the full-length vegan feature films.
I loved the idea of regenerative farming when I first learned about it, but I abhore that it has been taken over by animal agriculture and seems to be synonymous with cattle grazing. This idea that cows can provide the soil with any nutrients that can't be done by plants or native wildlife is simply not supported by the evidence. After all, it is plants that turn CO2 from the atmosphere into carbon in their roots and therefore in the soil. Cows, and all animals, turn carbon and oxygen into CO2. Therefore, just looking at the basics of how the carbon cycle works shows that adding cows to a landscape and then killing the cows and removing their bodies to eat is not going have a net benefit on the soil carbon, let alone other landscape health factors.
@@linksusbellgate5619 And the single biggest thing you alone can do is go vegan 😌. Also tough for a person like you to say that (just saying that flag ain't it)
My biology teacher recommended us that documentarie -_- omgs. And I always debunk her at the class with scientific facts, but of course, because I am a student my opinion (scientifically proven to we true) isn't valid... I hate the school system, always disregarding students opinions just because is different, and validating adults opinions just because they are adults -_-
You really do great job ed. You inspire millions of people, this your strength to communicate to the society so efficiently. Keep up with your idea of a better world everyday. . . Love from India💌
It is a good way to speed up the restoration of "already-degraded" land locally to a certain point, but there are many other methods that can accomplish this easily, not just the Savory method. You just need to get enough organic matter and primary production to cross the "tipping point". Nothing about the Savory method can "reverse" climate change if it does not displace bad industrial animal production.
Your videos are beyond mindblowing, Ed! Shared each and every one of them. No words can express my gratitude for all the work you've done. Thank you so much!
Informative video !! Ecosystems understanding and restoration is a huge need to debunk the false propoaganda of animal farming and meat consumption. Altering global environment at alarming rate, alters Earth's ability to sustian life.
In Australia, all native animals have soft feet, so hoofed agricultural animals compact the soil and damage native vegetation, causing runoff and erosion
we need more documentaries about the horrors and environmental impacts of animal agriculture! I was glad that in the movie "David Attenborough" he mentioned how a plant based diet is the way towards a healthy planet in the future but we need to get this info mainstream!
What about the horrors of large scale monocropping? ALL industrial agriculture is horrible for the environment, but BOTH plant and animal agriculture can be positive if we manage them correctly. Look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
2:25 when soil meets soil carbon equilibrium that isn't when we stop using that land.... that doesn't mean we have to move on to new land... the whole point of holistic management and rotational grazing is to manage a sustainable amount of animals and plants on a fixed amount of land. the farmer manages those animals in a way that improves soil health, promoting microbial activity and creating more resilient, abundance ecological systems. Then you have a healthy system that produces healthy food to be consumed by humans.
The guy is a vegan, so he will sadly not take anything you say into account. But I wholeheartedly agree with you. I believe regenerative agriculture is the future.
Currently working on a research project on this exact topic. People really fail to consider that there is a maximum to how much carbon can be sequestered in a soil and we will inevitably hit a ceiling. Additionally, the most impressive sequestration numbers have been demonstrated on already degraded land, meaning the carbon being sequestered is carbon that has already been emitted from land use change in the past due to humans. I am fairly convinced that all of this talk of carbon neutral cattle is just a sham to be able to protect the meat industry. Surely, higher net carbon sequestration can occur through afforesting/restoring grasslands without the dead weight of emissions from cattle.
I know, there's so many people so indoctrinated by it. It's tiring showing them why it's wrong when they're fighting not to understand your points. This video should come in handy as a neat summary of the case against it.
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 It's a master class in patience - after the Attenborough documentary, my local community cafe refused to serve milk alternatives for "ethical concerns with the amazon", yet they happily serve meat, eggs, and dairy lol. Some people....
@@Gustav4 Yes he is doing the most about it by just doing nothing all day. He already slaughtered 40,000 elephants on a whim, he probably slaughtered far more afterwards too
@@no1aviator Yes thank the animal agriculture industry for that, it's the leading cause of ocean dead zones, desertification, animal extinction, habitat destruction, and so on. You're criticizing this guy while you kill and eat bodies of dead animals every day on your plate. Whatever you think vegans do that is bad, you are doing far worse because 80% of our agricultural land is fed to livestock, only 20% of the crops we grow is human food.
@@justmegawatt lol fertilisers cause dead zones. The fertiliser runs off into the oceans and cause algae to bloom and sucks up oxygen in the oceans. This is caused by plant agriculture. Pesticides cause animal extinctions, plant agriculture is responsible for that also. Vegan like to say animal agriculture is holocaust lol. Animal agriculture breeds animals, it’s not trying to wipe them from the face of the planet lol. Vegans are so gullible and deluded. Pahahaha!!! 55% of crop is grown for people, 36% of for animals and the rest is for biofuels. Damn you’re so lost and indoctrinated
Great video, I am a practitioner of regenerative ag, I graze sheep and chickens on a sustenance micro farm, I am more than happy to encourage the majority of people to adopt veganism, but as I see a virtue in self sufficiency I raise meat and dairy animals. Veganic agriculture is great, but a lot of work and careful practices, I attempted to garden veganically for 3 years before adding animals to my farm, I found it very difficult to get right, I eventually realized it was my climate, being in Canada I was unable get my cover crops to compost completely in time for planting due to the short growing season. Another problem I had was with the tilling, if you’re not tilling you’re using plastic tarps to aid in decomposition which is fine enough for small market gardens, not so for large operations. So you’re left with Tilling, tilling is the worst thing you can do to soil, for a multitude of reasons. Another advantage to farming meat is having nutritionally dense meat available to me in the dead of winter with very little work. Growing vegetables is an incredible amount of work, especially to do it properly and organically. On a typical day it takes me 5-10 minutes of animal chores a day and for that I annually get 200 lbs of the highest quality meat available at all times of year, I also get 1 pint of the highest quality milk a day, and 7 cubic yards of high quality compost to grow amazing veg, and I am able t graze formerly fallow acre that brought a large amounts of pests into my garden, since adding sheep to my farm I am able to reduce greatly the outside inputs into my garden and instead of composting garden waste I am able to feed it to my chickens providing me with eggs and even better compost. I am not saying veganic practices are trash, I am saying they aren’t feasible in my situation or climate and with my goals of self sufficiency in mind.
Quality video, I appreciate your opinions on the matter. Here are my comments: 1. Converting all livestock land back to forest would store more carbon, but people want to eat meat. So there will always be livestock production and pastures. Maybe think of solutions that work with that premise in mind. 2. You mentioned that soil carbon is capped at a certain point, which I agree with, but that is the same case for forests. Eventually the total forest carbon will plateau. This is of course if there is not a fire before that, which whips out all the carbon savings. I do agree that more trees would help, but don't think they grow forever. 3. If you sub out one cow for a buffalo wouldn't there be no change in carbon? 4. Native animals and herds have the same ability to overgraze as cattle herds do. It wasn't invented by humans, it is nature, some areas are over grazed some under. Everchanging. Please if anyone wants to argue I do enjoy a debate. Thanks
The fact that people are so attached to eating dead animals that they are not willing to let go of it even to literally save the planet we live on baffles me. It’s a sick addiction.
We probably live in the most dramatic times ever existed on earth. And I mean that in two ways. One, we can now hear every opinion on the planet in a matter of minutes. Two, we actually have a world wide giant amount of problems which will either kill us or awaken us at last to a new phase in our evolution.
I love how many likes this has and how many dislikes. Not even the meat eating trolls have anything to say to Ed. His following is strong and proud, Ed is a legend, I'm proud to be apart of this generation to experience his wisdom.
I think you are polarizing here. I didn't hear anyone in Kiss the ground say that we should eat more meat to save the earth. Just that grazing animals is regenerative for the soil. And you can have animals graze the land, without eating them.
Duno about Kiss, but some meat eaters have literally told me to eat meat to save the environment and reduce green house emissions... which we know (from statistics) is totally wrong.
No, he missed out on 99.9% of the research and made a very ill informed video. If you really want to know the people doing the research look up Dr Christine Jones, Dr Elaine Ingham and Nicole Masters.
I wish the naysayers here would go investigate farms and ranches practicing regenerative agriculture. Compare them to the traditional farm operations that normally operate in mono-culture and single-species production. Dismissing Savory and holistic practices is akin to throwing the baby out with the bath water for you vegans. There’s plenty of room in regenerative operations for plant-only production.
As I understood Allan, he didn't claim to use livestock more, he just said that its important to use it in a different way. Not to promote meat eating or livestock usage, but to use the livestock we have today and use it differently. He said that he observed the changes in the environment were due to a difference in sheep behaviour not a different amount of them. In the Ted talk he also says that the images from a national historical park in new mexico are due to overgrazing. Literally in the Ted talk he says that, he doesn't say that its due to lack of cattle. He also doesn't say that it needs to be cattle, he says he incorporates any herd animal, preferably native or the one that is already used in the area. He also says in multiple of his speaches that this method works for the specific environment of land, like savanna, that is exposed to natural drought periods and then sudden floods. An environment that has evolved with large herds of animals. THAT was what his work was based on, NOT the overuse of livestock and overproduction. He observed that in the lands that are naturally prone to drought this method works and deduced that it can work in places with simmilar situation even if these places haven't had naturaly occuring large herd animals. But I think it's fair to say that it depends. To the moment of writing this I have not heard a single argument that actually adressed his method, every argument is either about a missrepresentation or missunderstaning of his method or about his lack of scientific support. But anecdotal data that is observed again and again is not anecdotal and every scientist knows that. All I want from this is for someone to actually explain why his method can't work, even though there are actual living people and communites bc of him ????? like Im more confused. I think making more land for livestack, disrupting nature more would go against his teachings. He says that whatever he is teaching he observed from natural habitats and how the animals have lived with the environment, and some of yall in the comments are talking about how land for livestack is destroying forests. That was not what Allan is advocating. But Im not surprised since this video made a claim that it was. In a debate he had he literally said "aggriculture is probably playing a biggger role then fossil fuels". Aggriculture is also livestock, and he is talking about desertification. I don't know how much Allan's work is legitimete at the end of the day, though the fact that he helps communites that live there and benefitted from his work does sound convining to me. But, I haven't gothered from this video anything, other then the fact that his method isn't peer reviewed, that actually addresses his claims. It's like you made a whole another story to make a counterargument for, or completely missunderstood what he was saying. Maybe it's just me so if somebody is reading this and has a better understanding of this please let me know.
So, why are some people fighting SO HARD to try to convince people to keep eating animals? It’s just food, people. It doesn’t represent status, happiness, virility, or any of the other ridiculous characteristics that get attached to food. If you can get what you need to survive, and thrive, from just eating plants, and it also happens to be humane for the animals and better for the environment, just stop eating animals and their products. You don’t need it!
Thank you for talking about re-wilding in this video. This is such an important topic for all people to understand whether vegan or not. I’m really concerned by the growing number of people who think that the only way to live in harmony with nature is to move into the country or the wild, and live among nature. There is a growing field of research suggesting that the best thing for restoring earth’s ecosystems and slowing the huge number of plant and animal extinctions happening each year is for humans to move out of nature, live more densely in cities and give back most of the earth’s surface to wild plants and animals. It is not eco-friendly to move into a cabin in the woods where you interact with and change the environment you live in and likely use awful sources of energy, like propane or wood for fuel, but so many supposed environmentalist Instagram and UA-cam accounts keep presenting this lifestyle as a good (or even the best) option for the environment. If people understood the importance of re-wilding, they’d be less likely to fall for these unscientific ideas about what it means to live with a reduced environmental footprint.
This statement ignores the rewilding that is inherent in transitioning tilled land to graze land. It also ignores the potential for diverse integration of other crops into the landscape like tree crops and other perennial vegetables and herbs, thus recreating the great Savannas that once existed and provided for generations before us.
But it would be even better to transition tilled land to wilderness, where wild animals roam free and Nature maximally sequesters carbon. If we humans transition to vegan diet, then we'll have so much land available, to plant whatever we want! We do not need grazing livestock.
I have been regenerating land for over 40 years. I use no live stock. I have no use for them. I have not eaten meat for 45 years. I use cover crops, compost and dynamic accumulators. I use agroecology, Biodynamic horticulture. My non profit planted 20,000 native trees earlier this year to demonstrate how to regenerate land.
Hi Ed, if this is not too much work, you should add references for the numbers or conclusions you mention. Not because I don't believe you, but to help spread the info. Good video anyway!
Ok, I really like Ed.. I’m a fan and agree with 80% of his views and love how he backs it up with science tho what actually is he proposing?? We “ rewild farm land” seems very idealistic.. and somehow counterintuitive to his views on animal ethics. What he is proposing exactly? The majority of grass based farms couldn’t support or compete as an arable based system due to the land quality ..etc. In Ireland for example. The ground is simply too wet. This land couldn’t just be set as a massive wild life animal sanctuary ? Who would fund this?? How could many countries consume local food,? This idea of returning wild is madness.its not all what we picture our heads.. The wild is a ruthless place with many animals suffering through disease, starvation, maggots eating them to death ..animal attacks.. brutal killings..There has to be a more clear vision for veganism .? as for savery .. he should not have came out with the claims he did , tho I think Ed shouldn’t be debunking the concept of holistic farming , it could change a lot of the industry in a healthy direction.. “for now” at least..until the day veganism makes proper CLEAR sense at scale . And I know savery’s concept couldn’t be done at massive scale to meet demands .. but it could be the answer for those farms that have limited options. I for one definitely don’t have the answers ..it’s SOO complex. tho I feel Veganism needs more detailed Q&A going forward .
He literally lies and invents "facts" throughout the whole video and did zero research. Fact check it and you'll be shocked with how dishonest he is. If you're genuine, it's easy to promote veganism without lying. He has to lie to everyone though. The man is a fraud using veganism to make money.
Please talk with Dr. Sailesh Rao and see his position paper that shows, including opportunity cost, animal agriculture has contributed 87% og greenhouse gases.
I'd love to see a video where you look through papers, and scientific proofs for how rewilding and veganic farming can benefit the soils and feed so many more people. I have seen all these in chunks within other videos but having it all in one place would be really great. Maybe you do have one and I just haven't seen it yet?
Thanks Ed, I crossed upon savory’s claims just a few weeks ago and it let me quite confused, I was needing this debunk video. The future of organic agriculture, a regenerative and sustainable system of agriculture has to be vegan. I hope this awareness expand soon to this spaces of permaculture, etc, where it exists a true questioning about the current models of societal structures and our relation with the entire planet, but i feel not so much with how we view non human animals. The explotation and abuse of animals cant be sustainable or permanent, they are here with us and not for us.
Hi Matias! I was searching the comment section for someone else thinking about permaculture here. I'm quite new to it, studying as much as I can, and I'm very impressed by many of the intelligent designs that it proposes, but it worries me that, at least in Spain, most of the PC organisations are sold on the idea of holistic management and there's very little talk of vegan permaculture. One of the founders of permaculture, Bill Mollison, used to make fun of vegetarians even! Darren Doherty, one of the main figures in this movement, is also pro-holistic management. That so many intelligent people are backing this makes me wonder whether there's some economic interest behind, just plain ignorance or whether they're just not seeing the possibility of a more sustainable, vegan option.
@@mtornerorubio Thanks for the reply!! I feel glad to know someone with the same “worry”. I have the sensation that it is something that will change soon (i dont really know why haha) and if not.. maybe is us who have to plant a seed and water it until it blossom 💚
@@mtornerorubio and Im not studying permaculture (at least not formally 🤔) but i feel really drawn to it. No doubt there is a lot for us to learn there. I wish you joy in your path! ❤️
As you say, maybe it is us we have to plant the seed! I'm also optimistic that more people will start to see animals not as resources but as companions and also see that's the most advantageous way for our ecosystems and our health at the same time! :)
"The future of organic agriculture, a regenerative and sustainable system of agriculture has to be vegan" At least in our system. In other poorer arid or colder regions it may look different. Also for self-sufficency set-ups. It needs objective research. Non-extractive mix with animals - might be an option in some places, too. Whatever is necessary to feed the world with least impact and most regeneration.
Yesterday I ran across yet another video espousing animal grazing in "regenerative agriculture" and wondered: Does Earthling Ed have a video on that? Sure enough. Thanks!
Hello, my name is Sarah Savory, I am Allan’s daughter - I just wanted to help you to clear a few things up as you seem to be struggling with this subject and appear to just be making stuff up in order to suit your narrative rather than fact-checking for yourself. First, it’s very silly to try and debunk something you haven’t even vaguely begun to understand. Allan isn’t a livestock farmer, never has been. His entire life has been dedicated to saving wildlife by finding out what it is about our management that causes biodiversity loss and land degradation. Holistic Management is a decision making process. It is nothing to do with livestock - the holistic planned grazing process and correct timing and impact of animals is a new biological land management tool within this decision making framework that can be used, in the right situations, to regenerate land for wildlife. Holistic Management doesn’t involve any grazing system. Grazing systems don’t work - Allan figured that out 60 years ago and will be the first person to help you debunk them and to tell you that they are not ecologically regenerative in the long term - all the studies you site have only reviewed grazing systems, which are not in any way similar to what a holistic planned grazing process is. The holistic planned grazing process ensures that the management herd is mimicking nature by always flowing with the ever changing ecological, social and economic variables going on on the land all the time. No grazing system does this. I’m happy to share the planning process we use with you if you’re interested. Here in Zimbabwe we plan the herds movements around all the wildlife movements, even including things like the guinea fowl breeding periods, etc - it’s fascinating. Nobody who has tried to debunk Allan’s work, including you, have ever actually reviewed his work or understood the Holistic Management Decision Making Framework - you’ve all gone and reviewed livestock grazing systems which have nothing whatsoever to do with the work. In the 1980’s, the Holistic Management framework was rigorously put through the test over 2 years by over 2,000 top scientists in American land management agencies, as well as from USAID, World Bank and major universities in the US - they could not make it fail. What stopped it moving forward was institutional stupidity and paradigm paralysis. Nobody knows how to solve that problem. Here’s a link explaining why humans struggle to get new knowledge into mainstream science: ua-cam.com/video/mNU3Gix445w/v-deo.html The other thing is that, before doing a video like this, it is very important to be ecologically literate and know how the earth’s four ecosystem processes must be functioning and also to understand how differently they react to the same influences at either end of the brittleness scale. If you understood this and knew how the world’s grasslands developed (in an incredible symbiotic relationship with herding animals and their pack hunting predators) and how there simply aren’t the numbers needed to do the job of keeping the land healthy anymore, you’d begin to understand the vital need for the tool of the correct timing and impact of animals using holistic planned grazing. You certainly wouldn’t blame livestock for impacting soil - that’s a symptom of the incorrect TIMING of animal impact and is 100% due to our management. Just have a look at the devastation in our National Parks thanks to our management: ua-cam.com/video/krQMkmOLjOo/v-deo.html For those on here actually interested in the truth instead of this bs: What Allan has actually discovered is that human management is the root cause of land degradation. Our physical and financial stability depends entirely on the health of earth’s ecosystems. He has developed a management framework that enables anyone (from individuals to governments) to make decisions or develop policies that successfully manages the social, economic and ecological complexity our decisions impact and ensure that they have the best possible ecological outcome while simultaneously considering the unique social and economic circumstances the decision is being made in at any given time. When we adjust our management and begin using the Holistic Decision-Making Framework, we learn how to develop and use a Holistic Context as a "magnetic north" to guide all our decisions. A Holistic Context is a statement describing the quality of life we want for ourselves, which we tie to a description of what the health of our environment must look like far into the future in order for us to have the quality of life we desire, and to ensure physical and financial security for ourselves and for many generations to come. Then, before making any decision or taking any action, we run through several ‘context checking questions’ that we ask ourselves to help us determine whether the action being considered will be simultaneously socially sound, economically viable and ecologically regenerative in our particular situation at the time of making the decision. We also use the testing questions when we want to compare a couple of potential decisions/practices/actions/enterprises in order to figure out which one of them will be the most appropriate. This is a generic example of what a National Holistic Context developed by citizens of a country might look like: “We want stable families living peaceful lives in prosperity and physical security, while free to pursue our own spiritual or religious beliefs. We want access to nutritious food and clean water. We want to enjoy good education and health. We want to be living balanced lives, with time for family, friends, community and leisure for cultural and other pursuits. All this is to be secured, for many generations to come, on a foundation of regenerating soils and biologically diverse communities on our land and in our rivers, lakes and oceans. This will be brought about by the humane treatment of all life and by being tolerant and non-judgmental, ensuring mutual respect and support as we live with each other and, our environment, in harmony.” There are seven filtering context checks used in holistic decision making. Each check incorporates one or two questions to ask yourself prior to implementing a decision to ensure that the decision is economically, environmentally and socially sound relative to your holistic context. I invite anyone reading this, especially the maker of this video to stop looking at reductionist grazing systems and come and see results of Holistic Decision Making and the holistic planned grazing process for yourselves before making wild claims about something you haven’t understood.
1:30 "grazed and confused" ... yes, very confusing. "holistic management" wants to stop desertification on a LARGE scale. the goal "stop desertification" can also be achieved with vegan permaculture, but on a SMALL scale, since more human work is needed. seems we need both?
As we continue to make progress as a movement, we'll continue to see bolder and bolder claims being made by those that oppose its progress. It's crucial that we address and debunk such blatant misinformation.
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It's sad to think that many people will believe in this BS. Netflix shouldn't allow a misleading "documentary" like this in their platform. Such a shame!
Hi Ed. I love your videos and would like to know is holistic grazing is the same or similar as forest management with sheeps and goats? Maybe you have more info on that, because I have positive info that they help to reduce bush fires, because goats love eating all sort of spiky and hard bushes. So they let them go free in the area they want to reduce these invasive bushes to allow other plants to grow. Thank you I hope to hear from you soon.
woooooo Cleary you did not watch the whole documentary!!!! they said right near the end the two diets to move forward are VEGAN and a Regenerative Diet which removes factory farming. I prefer every one to GO VEGAN, but the claims you have made are quite in accuracy. When you stop tilling soil !!! only then you can rebuild soil heath that was the biggest push they were saying. are you for synthetic fertilizer and round up on soil to stop weed growth and pests, cause with out a NO Till system you will never achieve a soil pH that is conducive to high yeild plant growth and not weeds and pests this documentary had its faults by no were as bad as you just made it sound. Trust me I want a Vegan world but this would be the first step and reducing and stopping animal consumption will follow once a new system is set up. NO TILL is the future of Crop Production and that should be the take away from this documentary. Did you even Hear the word Vegan? cause it was said right near the end I was even shocked my self because "The Game Changers" did not even use that word.
It´s unfortunate that vegans delude themselves to the point that they believe animal agriculture is the primary cause of deforestation, when in reality it´s actually the construction industry. You know, building the usual stuff, like houses where people live (that includes self-entitled vegans).
And deforestation itself isn´t even a problem, because it´s in the interest of private forest companies to restore and replant forest areas which result in massive profits for them. Companies like for example Brinkman, Terviva, Guayaki, Ecosia, Pueblo Nuevo, Komaza, Lyme Timber, Symbiosis, Tentree, BioCarbon Engineering, F3 Life, Domtar, EcoPlanet Bamboo, Hypro AB, New Forests, ConFor. These are just a few examples of forest companies from all over the world that annually invest millions and millions of dollars in reforestation projects (this is apart from the timber that they harvest).
Not only are they all forced by Law to plant more trees, it´s also in their own interest to keep planting new trees because it means more profits for them. It´s simply idiotic the claim that vegans make that we are running out of forests.
By the way, animal agriculture isn´t the leading cause of climate change. It´s fossil fuel emissions in the industrial sector. Metallurgy, plastics, brick & concrete production, car manufacturing, electrical energy production. The industrial sector is responsible for at least 75% of all global greenhouse gases, not animal agriculture.
I grew up in Zimbabwe, and when I heard how Alan Savory slaughtered 40,000 elephants on a whim, I was appalled. The work of Alan Savory must be dismantled and assigned to the dustbin of history. We must switch to a fully plant-based economy. Thank you for this much needed video! - Robbie
Thanks, I thought I recognized him.
nice strawman that has nothing to do with the topic.
@@v.a.n.e. It is everything to do with the topic. The man is a false prophet.
@@v.a.n.e. it's not a strawman because they weren't arguing against holistic grazing. They were just making the point that anyone who decides to slaughter 40,000 elephants clearly has some serious mental problems. So try harder next time
yes... he is pure evil. 40,000 beautiful elephants murdered for his pseudoscience
Grass-fed, free range, organic, regenerative farming, humanely slaughtered -- all but labels to sustain middle-class hipocrisy about their meat
Organic farming is the future tho. Uses less water, less land and little to no chemicals and pesticides are used in contrast to industrial farming. Instead of animal fertilizers, we can use compost in organic agriculture, therefore no animals need to be bred for our consumption. I’m talking about organic crop production ofc.
@@moalenn Yes I agree. Veganic Farming is also a very good idea
@@moalenn Yes that is the important distinction, current 'organic' farming is more likely to use animal fertiliser. As a vegan, I avoid organic food. Veganic farming is the way to go!
@@bengilkes7676 unless you grow your own food, or know a farmer who does not use any animal fertilizer, you’re still buying vegi and fruits grown with animal fertilizer. Also, animal fertilizers are not the problem, it’s the animal agriculture and animal farming. As more people transition into veganism, the use of animal fertilizers will decline and the use of farming compost will rise.
@@moalenn I avoid organic, so the products I buy use LESS animal fertiliser. They are definitely a big part of the problem - use of animal by-products make them products. As a vegan I try to reduce my indirect support of the animal agriculture industry as much as possible.
Here in Brazil we can see damn well just how "regenerative" grass-fed beef production really is. Just take a look at what is happening to the Amazon just to make way for pasture land
They wanna feed us with scientific lies
They are cutting the Amazon down for mainly soy. Nothing to do with GRASS feed beef. And you should research some of the pastures that have been reverted from desert in America, Australia and Africa due to holistic farming practices.
@@jeremymartin3816 Over 91% of deforestation in the Amazon is directly related to animal farming -- over 79% of the world's soy beans are not for human consumption but for livestock feed. Nobody had to convince me on those numbers I have SEEN in person just how destructive livestock farming truly is. I hope you stop being selfish and emotionally attached to "your" meat and see the truth: killing animals is killing us too.
@@jeremymartin3816 here are some receipts for you.
Globally animal agriculture is the leading cause of deforestation and species loss. Let's take some specific examples:
"Cattle ranching is the largest driver of deforestation in every Amazon country, accounting for 80% of current deforestation rates. Amazon Brazil is home to approximately 200 million head of cattle, and is the largest exporter in the world, supplying about one quarter of the global market."
- Global Forest Atlas, Yale University (globalforestatlas.yale.edu/amazon/land-use/cattle-ranching)
Think about that next time you shove a burger in your face while you read about the Amazon burning. Or maybe consider Australia, where the livestock industry is again the primary cause of deforestation and consequent habitat loss, species extinction:
"Projections suggest that 3 million hectares of untouched forest will have been bulldozed in eastern Australia by 2030, thanks to a thriving livestock industry and governments that refuse to step in."
- Australia's Biodiversity at Breaking Point, The Guardian (www.theguardian.com/environment/2019/may/15/australias-biodiversity-at-breaking-point-a-picture-essay)
Yes deforestation for soy to feed to cattle. GRASS FEED cattle are FEED GRASS. It has nothing to do with regenerative farming at all so why being it up?
"Why mimic nature when nature can simply exist there instead?" WOW, this hit different. 🌱❤️
Because that isnt feasible under a plant based system. Because animals would become pests and have to be eradicated, under a vegan farming system.
@@jeremymartin3816 Right because 70 billion animals aren't already eradicated every year for human consumption. That makes sense. I'd love to see the research you conducted to reach your fascinating conclusion.
@@jeremymartin3816 It's funny... you oppose a vegan farming system because you think it would eradicate animals, but you don't seem to mind all the animals who are slaughtered to satisfy your taste buds!
@@jueatsplants8154 rather than just being eradicated because they are a pest? Yes animals have a use, and we make money off them. So you would rather live in a world where the animals have no use at all in fact they are a pest to be killed and left to rot? Dosent sound like you care to much about animals at all.
@@jeremymartin3816 you're thinking about the best possible scenario in a non-vegan world, but then a vegan world, you think of the worst. Otherwise you wouldn't have made a comment like that.
I am sooo glad for people like you, for aktivists and for every vegan that's trying to bring awareness.
THANK YOU ED💚
There are nearly 8 billion of us humans consuming and growing, and we are living like we have several planets worth of natural resources.
Exactly and it’s mainly due to humans being more widespread and consuming more I’d say cut the population in half and stop gluttony because people eat too much food and that overconsumption then causes diseases
@@Assassin99584 yes thats what we will have to do if we continue with conventional ag. You cant keep destroying soil forever.
@@Forester-qs5mf I’m all for looking into sustainability
@@Assassin99584 Unfortuantely Sustainable doesnt cut it anymore. You cant sustain a degrading resource. You need to be Regenerative. Grasslands are one of the largest areas on the earths surface. Animals are integral in their regeneration. We know it can be done as its been done in the past. We just have to be smart enough to learn from that. But the good news is that its already happening and the movement is growing globally. So there is some hope.
@@Forester-qs5mf as long as no one tries to stop me eating what I want I have no issues with that
I hate people that ignore the facts 💀turning Vegan has been the best decision I have ever made
Once you see you can't unsee. True!
@VeteranCape what? 🤨
periodT💅
RIP health
@@andylucas6962 define health.
“The scientific method never discovers anything”, yeh, tell that to Kepler, Newton, Curie, Einstein, and 350 years of scientific discovery.
Yes, what a brainless quote! I couldn't laugh hard enough at that. The guy debunks himself. Why do people listen to him?
Cool list of shills, bro
@@reformationinc.3376 lol
@@fearofaveganplanet8513
How is their work verifiable?
That statement is correct. Science is done to prove or disprove a hypothesis. It is an observation of something that is already there but no-one had paid any attention to or had the ability to comprehend. That was the point he was making.
Omg, thaaaaank you for this. Allan Savory drives me mad. Horticulturalist and current enviro-science student here. People advocate for this here in Australia even though there are no large, cloven hoofed grazing animals native to Australia. In fact grazing animals are the reason for the extreme environmental degradation that occurred immediately after European settlement.
thanks for that experience. I would be grateful if you have any useful research list which covers this topic for Australia. I try to get the best information out there that I can.
Yep Savory drives me mad also. I recently read George Monbiots "Regenisis" and I can't disagree with his main arguments. If we have the technical ability to produce our protien, calorific and material needs without exploiting animals or burning fossil fuels, then to not pursue policy which leads us in that direction is nutty. I say this as a livestock farmer. I'm totally open to critiquing the system I'm embedded in if there's a better way.
Yes, cows emit carbon to the atmosphere, but, unlike fossil fuels, they don't add NEW carbon to the atmosphere. The carbon they emit came from the plants they ate, which in turn came from the atmosphere in the first place. It's a cycle, no new co2, just the same carbon circulating. We also have to take in consideration that plants and cows (through manure) store carbon in the soil, improving its fertility.
So, claims like in 1:38 make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE.
Ignorance of the world today is sad 🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️🤦🏻♀️ thanks for looking out for animals Ed!
Edit: also thanks for caring about the environment
I like how he names the video "literal BS" 😁😁 👌🏽
Animal ag will outlive you your kids and grandkids
This is so true but fundamental misunderstanding of "looking out for " animals and "caring for the environment". Presented as valid scientific review (it isn't) and advertising veganism in the top right hand corner. No prizes.
i wish you could make a documentary for netflix one day.
yeah
Agreed!
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ - ᛄᚢᛒᚨ emotional driven science* sorry, and its not gonna work btw.
I'm sorry I came across as attacking, I can assure you it is all driven by a deep care for creating a better planet.
I could find plenty of relevant sources but the incentive to want to find the true problems and the true solutions has to be there in the first place for a person to want to invest time in researching.
Allan Savory's book is a great resources if a person holds these values described.
I have about 100 links that I could share with you if that has any interest.
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ - ᛄᚢᛒᚨ this is a good one I was just re-watching. It is Walter Jehne a great great guy, absolutely non emotional driven science.
ua-cam.com/video/123y7jDdbfY/v-deo.html
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ - ᛄᚢᛒᚨ In the UK dominion is on Netflix
Ed I think you just humanely slaughtered Allan's whole career 🤣🤣
The question is, can you morally justify it? :p
@@martenproductionz Veganism is not the answer
@@linksusbellgate5619 how
@@linksusbellgate5619 what's the answer then in your opinion
@@bethanywhite9815 he won’t answer it lol no way
thanks for this video Ed! A coworker claimed those things too, now i have a great video for him ;)
Who needs Cinderella or Snow White when we can listen to fairy-tales about stopping climate change and feeding the world with grass-fed beef?
LMAO an actual comment that made me laugh
Who needs comedians when we can listen to vegans?
@@linksusbellgate5619 Who needs comedians when we have racist americans everywhere
You can feed the world with grass fed beef
@@linksusbellgate5619 wow you’re so cool 😩😩👀 stfu
Fun fact, soil microbiology and fertility is done by bacteria and fungi and insects, not from bigger animals.
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"Why mimic nature, when nature can simply exist there instead?"
Ed, I love you.
Because it isn't here anymore, there used to be many many herds larger than the eye could see, which maintained and regenerated much of the worlds ecosystems.
This is honestly dumb logic. Ed literally says in the video that the deforestation is caused by cattle that were led to go wild. This is why nature can’t simply exist. He really is contradictory in this video. I would advise doing your own research on this topic as Ed is extremely bias. He picks and chooses studies words them in away that is pro vegan it is very confusing and misleading. This is why identify politics and free thought can not coexist. The ego takes over as it seeks affirmation. Not to mention Ed’s lively hood is based on being vegan. His core beliefs are tied to his income.
@@Rayray-yl1ed Agree, this topic can not be approached with prejudices which is a symptom of ego, its too important for ego.
@@Gustav4 👌🏻👌🏻 Ed no longer being vegan = no longer having a sustainable income.
^ this isn’t necessarily something that he is conscious of.It’s obvious that he cares for the environment. But he will never seek real truth if all he is doing is trying to win arguments it’s not sustainable he can’t keep this up. He’s at war everyday.
He must be exhausted
Regenerative agriculture has been practiced in the French countryside for years. However, before there were grasslands in these locations there were ... Woodlands ! And given the countless studies on woodland's ability to efficiently sequester loads of carbon, pastures , as holistically managed as they are, will never come close to locking away as much carbon ..
Afforestation remains a better solution for doing so ..
Aye and starve people at the same time.
@Juba - يوبا - ⵊⵓⴱⴰ mate I studied chemistry , sustainable agriculture as master level and now I’ve been an agronomist for 4 years. Forgive me if I don’t really need to watch UA-cam for facts on this topic. Carbon emissions are not the only factor in sustainability, for example soil health, crop rotation, soil ability and many more I could name. Your vegan utopia is flawed. But if you have read the news lately here in the uk subsidies are gonna be based on environmental impact so we are an industry that adapts hence why it’s one of the oldest. Animal produce methane, methane might be more potent, but it’s the CO2 from cars ect that are the real problem as it’s in the atmosphere for 100 years. Methane is gone in 12 years and some studies show that European agriculture systems sequester as much carbon as they produce. Obviously Amazon rainforest beef is terrible, no one denies that, but here in the uk it’s not bad. A lot of these studies include Amazon beef and it skews the studies but where you have established pasture land that are perfect conditions and climate for grass- why not utilise it.
Actually healthy grasslands have the potential to sequester far more carbon than woodlands do as they have a far denser root structures underground. Look up the work of scientists like Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham if you would like to know how it all actually works.
@@JakeJonesx true but they only sequester a percentage of the carbon that the livestock emit
Theo Lepilleur Before there were 4.6 billions acres of croplands, there were 4.6 billion acres of the wilds.
DebunkED.
*Facts And Logic Destroy Savory Nonsense Every Time*
Tru-dat
*Savory's Unsavory nonsense
@@Changeling9au zzzzzzzzzzactly!
No not really because sequestration of carbon in the form of organic mater grown on regenerative farms has not been addressed in this video or by the scientific experts. Also scientists claim that the amount of organic matter grown on majority of regenerative farms is only possible over 100s of years which most are achieving over 10-20.
@@jeremymartin3816 Citations please
Stoked to see you cover this specific topic! 10/10
Brilliant! look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
THANK YOU I LOVE YOU
Appreciate all the time and energy that goes into these videos! So much valuable info! ✌🏾🌱🌍
I just want to say that the quality of these videos is amazing. They are a work of art. The pictures, music, and powerful prose are in my opinion the best that can be found apart from the full-length vegan feature films.
I loved the idea of regenerative farming when I first learned about it, but I abhore that it has been taken over by animal agriculture and seems to be synonymous with cattle grazing. This idea that cows can provide the soil with any nutrients that can't be done by plants or native wildlife is simply not supported by the evidence. After all, it is plants that turn CO2 from the atmosphere into carbon in their roots and therefore in the soil. Cows, and all animals, turn carbon and oxygen into CO2. Therefore, just looking at the basics of how the carbon cycle works shows that adding cows to a landscape and then killing the cows and removing their bodies to eat is not going have a net benefit on the soil carbon, let alone other landscape health factors.
This is some Late Stage Carnism BS.
plenty.ag the future of farming. go vegan
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A cool website design OwO
The leading cause of climate change is fossil fuel emissions, not animal agriculture. You need to stop believing your vegan religious leader
@@linksusbellgate5619 And the single biggest thing you alone can do is go vegan 😌. Also tough for a person like you to say that (just saying that flag ain't it)
@@linksusbellgate5619 you are 100% WRONG
My biology teacher recommended us that documentarie -_- omgs. And I always debunk her at the class with scientific facts, but of course, because I am a student my opinion (scientifically proven to we true) isn't valid... I hate the school system, always disregarding students opinions just because is different, and validating adults opinions just because they are adults -_-
That must be so frustrating! I can imagine how annoying that would be
Adults are worth listening to. Children are not.
If you want more facts check out scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham!
You are insane, just like Ed or even worse as he might be a pawn.
Oh my gosh! Thank you for this one!! 🙌🏻
You really do great job ed. You inspire millions of people, this your strength to communicate to the society so efficiently. Keep up with your idea of a better world everyday.
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Love from India💌
Brilliant 👏🏻👏🏻
Your videos inform me so much about things I was completely unaware of thank you.
Take matters into your hands. Starting your own garden is a way for each of us to make a difference . It benefits the evnvironment and us too :)
already done
and vegan too
This is the best way, and chickens can reduce your food waste while producing eggs for you as well as fertiliser for your garden
Me too :) ua-cam.com/video/VL8_kqT-3Iw/v-deo.html
@@Lewdogg123 Just like Allan Savory is advocating (but with chickens rather than cattle). Very nice.
@@WoodenBoatGuy preaching to the saved brother
The only thing the Animal Agriculture cares about is $ not the Environment
It is a good way to speed up the restoration of "already-degraded" land locally to a certain point, but there are many other methods that can accomplish this easily, not just the Savory method. You just need to get enough organic matter and primary production to cross the "tipping point". Nothing about the Savory method can "reverse" climate change if it does not displace bad industrial animal production.
Your videos are beyond mindblowing, Ed! Shared each and every one of them. No words can express my gratitude for all the work you've done. Thank you so much!
Informative video !! Ecosystems understanding and restoration is a huge need to debunk the false propoaganda of animal farming and meat consumption. Altering global environment at alarming rate, alters Earth's ability to sustian life.
Let's give that Netflix documentary a 1 star review fellow vegans! It's called 'Kiss The Ground'
Don't give it traffic
Ed, Thank you so much for what you are doing.
Thanks for this well documented video Ed!
I love the quality of these videos. Ed’s really going all out
Thank you very much for this Ed, I just watched this documentary and was wishing someone like you would address it
Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham address all of the science in their work I recommend looking them up!
Thank the gods for earthling ed! We need you!
In Australia, all native animals have soft feet, so hoofed agricultural animals compact the soil and damage native vegetation, causing runoff and erosion
Another fantastic video, Ed! Keep up the good work
we need more documentaries about the horrors and environmental impacts of animal agriculture! I was glad that in the movie "David Attenborough" he mentioned how a plant based diet is the way towards a healthy planet in the future but we need to get this info mainstream!
What about the horrors of large scale monocropping? ALL industrial agriculture is horrible for the environment, but BOTH plant and animal agriculture can be positive if we manage them correctly. Look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
Thanks for researching all of this.
2:25 when soil meets soil carbon equilibrium that isn't when we stop using that land.... that doesn't mean we have to move on to new land... the whole point of holistic management and rotational grazing is to manage a sustainable amount of animals and plants on a fixed amount of land. the farmer manages those animals in a way that improves soil health, promoting microbial activity and creating more resilient, abundance ecological systems. Then you have a healthy system that produces healthy food to be consumed by humans.
The guy is a vegan, so he will sadly not take anything you say into account. But I wholeheartedly agree with you. I believe regenerative agriculture is the future.
@@HelenEk7 and brings brutality into the world by using an excuse
We need to get the views up on these videos
So glad you made this video! 🙏
Brilliant Ed - I often wondered about Savory's argument, thank you!!!
Not Brilliant! Look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
Currently working on a research project on this exact topic. People really fail to consider that there is a maximum to how much carbon can be sequestered in a soil and we will inevitably hit a ceiling. Additionally, the most impressive sequestration numbers have been demonstrated on already degraded land, meaning the carbon being sequestered is carbon that has already been emitted from land use change in the past due to humans. I am fairly convinced that all of this talk of carbon neutral cattle is just a sham to be able to protect the meat industry. Surely, higher net carbon sequestration can occur through afforesting/restoring grasslands without the dead weight of emissions from cattle.
I'm so tired of debunking Savory, thanks so much for the informative video - I can sleep easy tonight lol.
I know, there's so many people so indoctrinated by it. It's tiring showing them why it's wrong when they're fighting not to understand your points. This video should come in handy as a neat summary of the case against it.
@@fearofaveganplanet8513 It's a master class in patience - after the Attenborough documentary, my local community cafe refused to serve milk alternatives for "ethical concerns with the amazon", yet they happily serve meat, eggs, and dairy lol. Some people....
Masterpiece again 🙏🏼
He killed thousands and thousands of Elephants
then karma awaits him. he won't escape his punishment.
They are still being slaughtered by mainstream conservationist and Allan has and is probably the man doing the most to stop it.
@@Gustav4 Yes he is doing the most about it by just doing nothing all day. He already slaughtered 40,000 elephants on a whim, he probably slaughtered far more afterwards too
@@justmegawatt Dont talk about something you dont anything about. This is your feelings controlling you and is not valid critic.
Who else tried to wipe the crumb off of their screen at 4:23? Hahaha. But great work as always Ed!
Didn't see it, so I checked the timestamp.
Yes I did swipe it just to be sure
Becoming vegan thanks to Ed changed my life for ever . All my family is turning vegan too . I can only thank you for ever !
Congratulations for poisoning animals and creating dead zones to kill millions of fish every year
@@no1aviator Yes thank the animal agriculture industry for that, it's the leading cause of ocean dead zones, desertification, animal extinction, habitat destruction, and so on. You're criticizing this guy while you kill and eat bodies of dead animals every day on your plate. Whatever you think vegans do that is bad, you are doing far worse because 80% of our agricultural land is fed to livestock, only 20% of the crops we grow is human food.
@@justmegawatt lol fertilisers cause dead zones. The fertiliser runs off into the oceans and cause algae to bloom and sucks up oxygen in the oceans. This is caused by plant agriculture. Pesticides cause animal extinctions, plant agriculture is responsible for that also. Vegan like to say animal agriculture is holocaust lol. Animal agriculture breeds animals, it’s not trying to wipe them from the face of the planet lol. Vegans are so gullible and deluded. Pahahaha!!! 55% of crop is grown for people, 36% of for animals and the rest is for biofuels. Damn you’re so lost and indoctrinated
Great video, I am a practitioner of regenerative ag, I graze sheep and chickens on a sustenance micro farm, I am more than happy to encourage the majority of people to adopt veganism, but as I see a virtue in self sufficiency I raise meat and dairy animals. Veganic agriculture is great, but a lot of work and careful practices, I attempted to garden veganically for 3 years before adding animals to my farm, I found it very difficult to get right, I eventually realized it was my climate, being in Canada I was unable get my cover crops to compost completely in time for planting due to the short growing season. Another problem I had was with the tilling, if you’re not tilling you’re using plastic tarps to aid in decomposition which is fine enough for small market gardens, not so for large operations. So you’re left with Tilling, tilling is the worst thing you can do to soil, for a multitude of reasons. Another advantage to farming meat is having nutritionally dense meat available to me in the dead of winter with very little work. Growing vegetables is an incredible amount of work, especially to do it properly and organically. On a typical day it takes me 5-10 minutes of animal chores a day and for that I annually get 200 lbs of the highest quality meat available at all times of year, I also get 1 pint of the highest quality milk a day, and 7 cubic yards of high quality compost to grow amazing veg, and I am able t graze formerly fallow acre that brought a large amounts of pests into my garden, since adding sheep to my farm I am able to reduce greatly the outside inputs into my garden and instead of composting garden waste I am able to feed it to my chickens providing me with eggs and even better compost. I am not saying veganic practices are trash, I am saying they aren’t feasible in my situation or climate and with my goals of self sufficiency in mind.
thanks for sharing this, this is a very real and practical example of why some people choose and must include animals onto their operation.
Thanks for the video !
Quality video, I appreciate your opinions on the matter. Here are my comments:
1. Converting all livestock land back to forest would store more carbon, but people want to eat meat. So there will always be livestock production and pastures. Maybe think of solutions that work with that premise in mind.
2. You mentioned that soil carbon is capped at a certain point, which I agree with, but that is the same case for forests. Eventually the total forest carbon will plateau. This is of course if there is not a fire before that, which whips out all the carbon savings. I do agree that more trees would help, but don't think they grow forever.
3. If you sub out one cow for a buffalo wouldn't there be no change in carbon?
4. Native animals and herds have the same ability to overgraze as cattle herds do. It wasn't invented by humans, it is nature, some areas are over grazed some under. Everchanging.
Please if anyone wants to argue I do enjoy a debate. Thanks
Thank you Ed, very informative as always and edited fantastically.
The fact that people are so attached to eating dead animals that they are not willing to let go of it even to literally save the planet we live on baffles me. It’s a sick addiction.
We probably live in the most dramatic times ever existed on earth. And I mean that in two ways. One, we can now hear every opinion on the planet in a matter of minutes. Two, we actually have a world wide giant amount of problems which will either kill us or awaken us at last to a new phase in our evolution.
I love your objective level headed approach
Great job ED!
As always, Earthling Ed educating us with such professionalism and impeccability! Thank you very much!
Great job Ed, keep up the good work. We need to debunk all of the excuses for animal abuse if we are going to bring it to an end.
Yes, Great! Look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
I love how many likes this has and how many dislikes. Not even the meat eating trolls have anything to say to Ed. His following is strong and proud, Ed is a legend, I'm proud to be apart of this generation to experience his wisdom.
👌 👍 #BoycottMeat and all other animal products, cruelty and exploitation in any way possible!
Millions of bison seemed to manage living off grasslands in America. Fed the Native Americans for hundreds and hundreds of years!
Holistic Management is as true as Intelligent Design (ID).
Anything to do with cows would trigger vegans
Thank you!
I'm happy I get vegan ads on your vids
I think you are polarizing here. I didn't hear anyone in Kiss the ground say that we should eat more meat to save the earth. Just that grazing animals is regenerative for the soil. And you can have animals graze the land, without eating them.
Duno about Kiss, but some meat eaters have literally told me to eat meat to save the environment and reduce green house emissions... which we know (from statistics) is totally wrong.
@@arajo5773 I'll do it anyway.
Earthling Ed DOING the reasearch! Thank you for everything you do man, you are truely invaluable. 💜
No, he missed out on 99.9% of the research and made a very ill informed video. If you really want to know the people doing the research look up Dr Christine Jones, Dr Elaine Ingham and Nicole Masters.
I wish the naysayers here would go investigate farms and ranches practicing regenerative agriculture. Compare them to the traditional farm operations that normally operate in mono-culture and single-species production. Dismissing Savory and holistic practices is akin to throwing the baby out with the bath water for you vegans. There’s plenty of room in regenerative operations for plant-only production.
BC...the likes of EE will not stop spreading this nonsense until every human on this planet stops consuming animals and animal products.
Monoculture is far worse for the environement and the earth than regenerative grazing which is the natural way
Great work, you will always be an inspiration
As I understood Allan, he didn't claim to use livestock more, he just said that its important to use it in a different way. Not to promote meat eating or livestock usage, but to use the livestock we have today and use it differently. He said that he observed the changes in the environment were due to a difference in sheep behaviour not a different amount of them. In the Ted talk he also says that the images from a national historical park in new mexico are due to overgrazing. Literally in the Ted talk he says that, he doesn't say that its due to lack of cattle. He also doesn't say that it needs to be cattle, he says he incorporates any herd animal, preferably native or the one that is already used in the area. He also says in multiple of his speaches that this method works for the specific environment of land, like savanna, that is exposed to natural drought periods and then sudden floods. An environment that has evolved with large herds of animals. THAT was what his work was based on, NOT the overuse of livestock and overproduction. He observed that in the lands that are naturally prone to drought this method works and deduced that it can work in places with simmilar situation even if these places haven't had naturaly occuring large herd animals. But I think it's fair to say that it depends.
To the moment of writing this I have not heard a single argument that actually adressed his method, every argument is either about a missrepresentation or missunderstaning of his method or about his lack of scientific support. But anecdotal data that is observed again and again is not anecdotal and every scientist knows that. All I want from this is for someone to actually explain why his method can't work, even though there are actual living people and communites bc of him ????? like Im more confused. I think making more land for livestack, disrupting nature more would go against his teachings. He says that whatever he is teaching he observed from natural habitats and how the animals have lived with the environment, and some of yall in the comments are talking about how land for livestack is destroying forests. That was not what Allan is advocating. But Im not surprised since this video made a claim that it was. In a debate he had he literally said "aggriculture is probably playing a biggger role then fossil fuels". Aggriculture is also livestock, and he is talking about desertification.
I don't know how much Allan's work is legitimete at the end of the day, though the fact that he helps communites that live there and benefitted from his work does sound convining to me. But, I haven't gothered from this video anything, other then the fact that his method isn't peer reviewed, that actually addresses his claims. It's like you made a whole another story to make a counterargument for, or completely missunderstood what he was saying. Maybe it's just me so if somebody is reading this and has a better understanding of this please let me know.
Facts will get you every time. Great work as always Ed and Co. 🌱
yes, look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
So, why are some people fighting SO HARD to try to convince people to keep eating animals? It’s just food, people. It doesn’t represent status, happiness, virility, or any of the other ridiculous characteristics that get attached to food. If you can get what you need to survive, and thrive, from just eating plants, and it also happens to be humane for the animals and better for the environment, just stop eating animals and their products. You don’t need it!
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Thank you for talking about re-wilding in this video. This is such an important topic for all people to understand whether vegan or not. I’m really concerned by the growing number of people who think that the only way to live in harmony with nature is to move into the country or the wild, and live among nature.
There is a growing field of research suggesting that the best thing for restoring earth’s ecosystems and slowing the huge number of plant and animal extinctions happening each year is for humans to move out of nature, live more densely in cities and give back most of the earth’s surface to wild plants and animals. It is not eco-friendly to move into a cabin in the woods where you interact with and change the environment you live in and likely use awful sources of energy, like propane or wood for fuel, but so many supposed environmentalist Instagram and UA-cam accounts keep presenting this lifestyle as a good (or even the best) option for the environment.
If people understood the importance of re-wilding, they’d be less likely to fall for these unscientific ideas about what it means to live with a reduced environmental footprint.
Great work again.
This statement ignores the rewilding that is inherent in transitioning tilled land to graze land. It also ignores the potential for diverse integration of other crops into the landscape like tree crops and other perennial vegetables and herbs, thus recreating the great Savannas that once existed and provided for generations before us.
But it would be even better to transition tilled land to wilderness, where wild animals roam free and Nature maximally sequesters carbon. If we humans transition to vegan diet, then we'll have so much land available, to plant whatever we want! We do not need grazing livestock.
Thank you for always speaking the truth Ed. Veganism is the future and I am blessed to be part of this wonderful community.
With 85 - 90 %fail rate I highly doubt veganism is the future. Smh
@@andylucas6962 It is already limping.
I have been regenerating land for over 40 years. I use no live stock. I have no use for them. I have not eaten meat for 45 years. I use cover crops, compost and dynamic accumulators. I use agroecology, Biodynamic horticulture. My non profit planted 20,000 native trees earlier this year to demonstrate how to regenerate land.
So you don't put manure in cow horns?
I would like to learn more. Whats your non profit?
Hi Ed, if this is not too much work, you should add references for the numbers or conclusions you mention. Not because I don't believe you, but to help spread the info. Good video anyway!
Ok, I really like Ed.. I’m a fan and agree with 80% of his views and love how he backs it up with science tho what actually is he proposing?? We “ rewild farm land” seems very idealistic.. and somehow counterintuitive to his views on animal ethics. What he is proposing exactly? The majority of grass based farms couldn’t support or compete as an arable based system due to the land quality ..etc. In Ireland for example. The ground is simply too wet. This land couldn’t just be set as a massive wild life animal sanctuary ? Who would fund this?? How could many countries consume local food,? This idea of returning wild is madness.its not all what we picture our heads.. The wild is a ruthless place with many animals suffering through disease, starvation, maggots eating them to death ..animal attacks.. brutal killings..There has to be a more clear vision for veganism .? as for savery .. he should not have came out with the claims he did , tho I think Ed shouldn’t be debunking the concept of holistic farming , it could change a lot of the industry in a healthy direction.. “for now” at least..until the day veganism makes proper CLEAR sense at scale .
And I know savery’s concept couldn’t be done at massive scale to meet demands .. but it could be the answer for those farms that have limited options. I for one definitely don’t have the answers ..it’s SOO complex. tho I feel Veganism needs more detailed Q&A going forward .
He literally lies and invents "facts" throughout the whole video and did zero research. Fact check it and you'll be shocked with how dishonest he is.
If you're genuine, it's easy to promote veganism without lying. He has to lie to everyone though. The man is a fraud using veganism to make money.
Please talk with Dr. Sailesh Rao and see his position paper that shows, including opportunity cost, animal agriculture has contributed 87% og greenhouse gases.
I'd love to see a video where you look through papers, and scientific proofs for how rewilding and veganic farming can benefit the soils and feed so many more people. I have seen all these in chunks within other videos but having it all in one place would be really great. Maybe you do have one and I just haven't seen it yet?
PUSH ED PUSH.
everything you put out is 100% gold Ed, THANK YOU!!
Gold! Look up the work of scientists Dr Christine Jones and Dr Elaine Ingham to get a true understanding of how it all works.
Thanks Ed, I crossed upon savory’s claims just a few weeks ago and it let me quite confused, I was needing this debunk video.
The future of organic agriculture, a regenerative and sustainable system of agriculture has to be vegan. I hope this awareness expand soon to this spaces of permaculture, etc, where it exists a true questioning about the current models of societal structures and our relation with the entire planet, but i feel not so much with how we view non human animals. The explotation and abuse of animals cant be sustainable or permanent, they are here with us and not for us.
Hi Matias! I was searching the comment section for someone else thinking about permaculture here. I'm quite new to it, studying as much as I can, and I'm very impressed by many of the intelligent designs that it proposes, but it worries me that, at least in Spain, most of the PC organisations are sold on the idea of holistic management and there's very little talk of vegan permaculture. One of the founders of permaculture, Bill Mollison, used to make fun of vegetarians even! Darren Doherty, one of the main figures in this movement, is also pro-holistic management. That so many intelligent people are backing this makes me wonder whether there's some economic interest behind, just plain ignorance or whether they're just not seeing the possibility of a more sustainable, vegan option.
@@mtornerorubio Thanks for the reply!! I feel glad to know someone with the same “worry”. I have the sensation that it is something that will change soon (i dont really know why haha) and if not.. maybe is us who have to plant a seed and water it until it blossom 💚
@@mtornerorubio and Im not studying permaculture (at least not formally 🤔) but i feel really drawn to it. No doubt there is a lot for us to learn there. I wish you joy in your path! ❤️
As you say, maybe it is us we have to plant the seed! I'm also optimistic that more people will start to see animals not as resources but as companions and also see that's the most advantageous way for our ecosystems and our health at the same time! :)
"The future of organic agriculture, a regenerative and sustainable system of agriculture has to be vegan" At least in our system. In other poorer arid or colder regions it may look different. Also for self-sufficency set-ups. It needs objective research. Non-extractive mix with animals - might be an option in some places, too. Whatever is necessary to feed the world with least impact and most regeneration.
Yesterday I ran across yet another video espousing animal grazing in "regenerative agriculture" and wondered: Does Earthling Ed have a video on that? Sure enough. Thanks!
Hello, my name is Sarah Savory, I am Allan’s daughter - I just wanted to help you to clear a few things up as you seem to be struggling with this subject and appear to just be making stuff up in order to suit your narrative rather than fact-checking for yourself.
First, it’s very silly to try and debunk something you haven’t even vaguely begun to understand.
Allan isn’t a livestock farmer, never has been. His entire life has been dedicated to saving wildlife by finding out what it is about our management that causes biodiversity loss and land degradation.
Holistic Management is a decision making process. It is nothing to do with livestock - the holistic planned grazing process and correct timing and impact of animals is a new biological land management tool within this decision making framework that can be used, in the right situations, to regenerate land for wildlife.
Holistic Management doesn’t involve any grazing system. Grazing systems don’t work - Allan figured that out 60 years ago and will be the first person to help you debunk them and to tell you that they are not ecologically regenerative in the long term - all the studies you site have only reviewed grazing systems, which are not in any way similar to what a holistic planned grazing process is. The holistic planned grazing process ensures that the management herd is mimicking nature by always flowing with the ever changing ecological, social and economic variables going on on the land all the time. No grazing system does this. I’m happy to share the planning process we use with you if you’re interested. Here in Zimbabwe we plan the herds movements around all the wildlife movements, even including things like the guinea fowl breeding periods, etc - it’s fascinating.
Nobody who has tried to debunk Allan’s work, including you, have ever actually reviewed his work or understood the Holistic Management Decision Making Framework - you’ve all gone and reviewed livestock grazing systems which have nothing whatsoever to do with the work. In the 1980’s, the Holistic Management framework was rigorously put through the test over 2 years by over 2,000 top scientists in American land management agencies, as well as from USAID, World Bank and major universities in the US - they could not make it fail. What stopped it moving forward was institutional stupidity and paradigm paralysis. Nobody knows how to solve that problem. Here’s a link explaining why humans struggle to get new knowledge into mainstream science: ua-cam.com/video/mNU3Gix445w/v-deo.html
The other thing is that, before doing a video like this, it is very important to be ecologically literate and know how the earth’s four ecosystem processes must be functioning and also to understand how differently they react to the same influences at either end of the brittleness scale. If you understood this and knew how the world’s grasslands developed (in an incredible symbiotic relationship with herding animals and their pack hunting predators) and how there simply aren’t the numbers needed to do the job of keeping the land healthy anymore, you’d begin to understand the vital need for the tool of the correct timing and impact of animals using holistic planned grazing. You certainly wouldn’t blame livestock for impacting soil - that’s a symptom of the incorrect TIMING of animal impact and is 100% due to our management.
Just have a look at the devastation in our National Parks thanks to our management: ua-cam.com/video/krQMkmOLjOo/v-deo.html
For those on here actually interested in the truth instead of this bs:
What Allan has actually discovered is that human management is the root cause of land degradation. Our physical and financial stability depends entirely on the health of earth’s ecosystems. He has developed a management framework that enables anyone (from individuals to governments) to make decisions or develop policies that successfully manages the social, economic and ecological complexity our decisions impact and ensure that they have the best possible ecological outcome while simultaneously considering the unique social and economic circumstances the decision is being made in at any given time.
When we adjust our management and begin using the Holistic Decision-Making Framework, we learn how to develop and use a Holistic Context as a "magnetic north" to guide all our decisions. A Holistic Context is a statement describing the quality of life we want for ourselves, which we tie to a description of what the health of our environment must look like far into the future in order for us to have the quality of life we desire, and to ensure physical and financial security for ourselves and for many generations to come.
Then, before making any decision or taking any action, we run through several ‘context checking questions’ that we ask ourselves to help us determine whether the action being considered will be simultaneously socially sound, economically viable and ecologically regenerative in our particular situation at the time of making the decision. We also use the testing questions when we want to compare a couple of potential decisions/practices/actions/enterprises in order to figure out which one of them will be the most appropriate.
This is a generic example of what a National Holistic Context
developed by citizens of a country might look like:
“We want stable families living peaceful lives in prosperity and physical security, while free to pursue our own spiritual or religious beliefs. We want access to nutritious food and clean water. We want to enjoy good education and health. We want to be living balanced lives, with time for family, friends, community and leisure for cultural and other pursuits.
All this is to be secured, for many generations to come, on a foundation of regenerating soils and biologically diverse communities on our land and in our rivers, lakes and oceans. This will be brought about by the humane treatment of all life and by being tolerant and non-judgmental, ensuring mutual respect and support as we live with each other and, our environment, in harmony.”
There are seven filtering context checks used in holistic decision making. Each check incorporates one or two questions to ask yourself prior to implementing a decision to ensure that the decision is economically, environmentally and socially sound relative to your holistic context.
I invite anyone reading this, especially the maker of this video to stop looking at reductionist grazing systems and come and see results of Holistic Decision Making and the holistic planned grazing process for yourselves before making wild claims about something you haven’t understood.
1:30 "grazed and confused" ... yes, very confusing. "holistic management" wants to stop desertification on a LARGE scale. the goal "stop desertification" can also be achieved with vegan permaculture, but on a SMALL scale, since more human work is needed. seems we need both?