I feel so bad for my partner. He didn’t sign up for this and he feels like he’s on a constant rollercoaster ride. Sometimes I feel like I should just go at it alone so I don’t burden anyone.
Remember, it's treatable. I feel the same exact way about my partner. Maybe you will work it out together. Or maybe another partner will be more understanding, one day. Either way, remember: it's treatable.
Same. My partner probably has suffered as much as myself, and I have the extra shame and guilt for the emotional damage she has and is paying because of my mental illness. I wish i was dead, not only because of my own agony, but the oain and hurt I have caused to my friends, family(who also have mental issues,tho some are in denial) but especially to my partner. WHY she has put up with me all these years is beyond my capacity to understand. I KNOW she has suffered more than ANY human being should be expected to. I feel like I am an evil person because even my pets have suffered. Just wish it was over. I really just want to die. No longer able to contribute any thing positive to anyone. I am an atheist(former believer)and having menral illness is hell enough. Dont have any interest in going to heaven or hell. Eternity in either would be an absolute HORROR, worse than any suffering humans have in this mortal life. Thanks, but no thanks. Bye
@@mardishores4016 Please be safe, I am very concerned for you. You are not alone, even though it feels that way. There are people who want to help you, you can have a real life if you work for it. If you have the energy to fight this demon, please do all you can to hold on. Please know I am honestly and truly sending you my love in this time of need 💖🤗
Thank you Dr Fox. I watched all your videos on BPD as i have in the past year been diagnosed and everything makes so much more sense now. But it is still a scary thing to live with. I watch your videos about BPD to calm down because they make me feel like I'm not crazy and there are reasons for the ways i feel and act. Your videos help me a lot!!!
I'm still waiting to get a diagnosis. I have been diagnosed with bi polar by lazy physciatrist's. A physiologist told me I had all the check marks for b.p.d. but oh don't worry about it.
I agree it was so scary when I was diagnosed I googled it and it was all doctor type of articles and one thing stuck out is that BPDs are not capable of love. Cuz I felt like I loved ppl and it got me questioning if that was real or not. But finding Dr. Fox I have learned soooo much including there is different BPDs and never dismisses the true feelings we have. It has made me feel so much better about my diagnoses and gives me a place to start to try to manage what I have
@@aukama thank you for your encouraging comment. I’m curious: have you found any particular support groups that are helpful? Other resources (ie books)? I have completed DBT - but feel I need to go through it again!!
Diagnosed Bipolar II & BPD. I often have a hard time identifying if they're "working together" or if one triggered the other. Basic backdrop is decent, btw. I'm glad you talked about this.
I am diagnosed the same! I find I am layered, and sometimes I experience both disorders at the same time, its really kinda odd. Other times I do notice one will trigger the other and I will have "space" between the two, its extremely hard to put into words though. One thing I can sort of explain is I get these intense feelings like I can actually see my thoughts just zipping through everything is going so fast but I'm standing still. Kinda like in a movie where you see the point of focus but everything else is lightening fast....I call it the "glitch" My brain is going faster than I can deal with I think. It overwhelms me and I have to just sit and breath. Sometimes I stand in shower with hot water on so I can just focus on that. I would assume that is the mania kicking in, shortly after I tank and get extremely suicidal and depressed, sometimes it concurs with it while that is all going on. Its crazy feeling all that way at once its not fun.
@realmofoz Do you feel like you have multiple personalities or characters? Like slightly different thoughts and world views and overall characteristic? I was diagnosed with bd 2 and i feel like i have more than 3 phases. And it is hard for me to see who i am at my base stable self. Until i was diagnosed, i just thought that im a very colorful individual with a lot of different fields of interest and the ability to fit everywhere and with everyone (in mania, in depression it feels like nowhere)
Hey Dr. Fox, I have BPD and I'm Bipolar. I've seen about 6 of your videos. You are truly well educated on how I feel and what to do about it. I'm finding you are helpful to me and I'm understanding more and more as I strive to be better. I'm in therapy and medicated. I have a 2.5 year old. I'm using your worksheets and I just want to to know that you did this to help people... You're helping me. Thank you very much. You makeb more videos, I'll watch them, take notes, print extra materials, watch them 5x each and recommend you to others. You are the fucking best, thanks for spending your personal time doing this. You the best.
I have been suffering in silence with BPD since I was diagnosed at 19. I am now 39 and am finally ready to accept that this is my personal battle within myself - the fear of abandonment shows up almost every day- I feel scared and emptiness all the time- I am not good at anything because I cannot be in the moment long enough to focus my attention on any sort of mindful task . I feel so lost and broken and scared all the time . I get triggered and although I stopped self harming years and years ago, I still feel that way- I want to so desperately . I have clawed at my own face in the mirror in such disgust and shame at myself. The self hatred the self loathing the humiliation .
i'm so sorry, Angie. I am so much like you. I have given up ever trying to have any romantic relationships. No one wants me like I am. I sabotage every thing I do . I have become a sad, shamed, hateful, bitter woman just waiting to get out of this life. I don't know why I'm this way. I didn't do it t y
Hi Angie, Meditation and Mindfulness is what you need, lots of videos on UA-cam. Accepts your sell for how you are, your issue with BPD exists for a reason, but is in the past and we can't change the past, don't feel guilty about that, instead use Meditation and Manfulness to change your life.
I have unfortunately zero positive others to help me when I get triggered. But, I do have the internet and I do rely heavily on the UA-cam community and you, Dr. Fox ! Lol. Fortunately, I do not drink, or drug , engage in promiscuity etc.... I just suffer the paranoia , and pathological loneliness of the bpd whilst trying to reparent myself.... An interesting side note ... I host people who bicycle across Canada and they often are raising awareness for a cause. This summer a young couple came who were raising awareness for mental health issues. I had another cyclist at the same time who shared his battle with depression. It was so refreshing to discuss these issues in casual conversation ...... I am baffled as to why there is such incredible stigma around mental illness....I haven't had a soul to talk to since... Thanks again for your efforts Dr. Fox
I am always willing to talk if you want to Facebook me? Or add me on Instagram. I have maybe 2 people. I rely on people from facebook,you tube,etc. Myself.
Helena what an apt expression! Reparenting oneself is exactly the treatment and demonstrates the root of the problem as well. Good for and in you to have the strength to do this by yourself and to give to others at the same time. I have a theory that bpd-s are not full blown narcissists because they have a heart, that is their core content. Grace be with you.
@@juliettailor1616 . Thanks Julie. I read Pete Walker's CPTSD FROM SURVIVING TO THRIVING. He spoke of a community of books , when your family of origin is unsafe. I really took this to heart. I watch youtube videos rather than read and have learned much from my new family ! The concept of reparenting oneself with great love has really spoken to me... I was called " scum " constantly by my mother amongst many other disgusting names too horrible to mention. Reparenting myself is my only option.
My wife and I have just begun dealing with an adult daughter whom we believe is a "legacy" that was afflicted with the disorder, consistent with behaviors manifested by my mother and brother. Your video has enlightened me by connecting research to the observations and conclusions I have had to deal with w/o insider-understanding. I now realize that BPD, which we only heard about a few years ago, is a very complex onion to peel. Accepting the fact that it is a true disorder should lend patience to this process sustain me in supporting her on a path of improvement. I will resort to your videos, often, to learn more and to refresh what have already learned. Your videos are empowering to us and we will have our daughter watch them as an informational and coaching-tool. Thank you.
So many people suffer from mental illness it's unbelievable. I have BPD, GAD, panic disorder, and agoraphobia. Imagine me out here trying to hold down a job lol. I was turned down for disability and my husband of 16 years passed away last year unexpectedly. I'm currently living with my daughter and trying very hard to keep myself together. Mental illness is so stigmatized and so many people are suffering. Coming to channels like this and reading the comments help me to realize at least I'm not alone. Another major issue is trying to get and keep health care in the United States is another cross we have to bear. Stay strong people and thanks for listening.
I was started on lithium after diagnosed with perpeural psychosis after my first child was born and it was determined I have Bipolar 1. I am lucky because unlike many people who take a whole cocktail of drugs that tend not to work, I have gotten on really well with lithium. I now at thd age of 52, have Chronic Kidney Disease probably as a result of taking lithium for 30 years but I wouldn't have it any other way. Bipolar psychosis has to be the most frightening experience ever and I could easily have died by accident as well as end up blind in one eye. Routine is SO important. When the boxer, Frank Bruno gave up boxing, that was when he was diagnosed with Bipolar. Sleep, no recreational drugs, good diet, no alcohol and fresh air plus a thought for loved ones, enough to be responsible and not talk in terms of enjoying manic episodes coz I can guarantee your family members don't enjoy them - and taking lithium religiously or whatever medication suits you and Bipolar 1 will not rule your life!
What if someone's triggers are always related to interpersonal conflicts having to do with intense fears of abandonment/ rejection, but the episodes that are triggered can last weeks or months at a time (if the conflict isn't resolved, they experience a break-up/ lose a friend, the relationship continues to be a source of fear, etc.) and the episodes meet criteria for depression and/ or mixed/ dysphoric mania? So for example, if you go through a break-up or a fight with a friend or experience of having a negative relationship with a supervisor at work or a life transition like changing jobs and then feel empty, guilty, ashamed, extremely sad, unable to concentrate, self-hatred, suicidal ideations, difficulties at work, etc., with or without manic/ hypomanic symptoms like racing thoughts, very little sleep, intense impulsivity, flights of ideas about how to fix things with overconfidence that they will work, inability to stop talking, etc.- but those feelings last for weeks or months at a time (maybe not every second, but most of the day every day)? And you have a pattern where this happens repeatedly- sometimes for only a few hours until the relationship is repaired, but other times for weeks or months if the relationship isn't repaired? Also, in this case the baseline state is not an underlying constant depression (relatively good self-confidence, interpersonal relationships, optimism, mood states, etc. outside of these episodes triggered by conflicts with favorite people)?
That’s accurate tho…. totally understand where ya coming from shit ain’t easy to deal with me an my girl both have it shit be hard but you can make it thru together if you both want it an work on it like genuinely want to work together to recognize each other’s triggers an actively adjust to those to help mitigate the issues that pop up in life
Just diagnosed. I'm fearful of lamotrigine. I had been on a cocktail of anti depressants for more than 30 years before I discovered that I WASN'T depressed, (dysthymia), but instead have BPD, am OCD & ADHD, and suffer from PTSD (child of holocaust survivors). I eliminated all the meds I'd been placed on, using Prozac (20mg) to finally and safely eliminate the Cymbalta without the nasty withdrawal symptoms. On top of all of that, I'm also now off all my former health medicines because i drastically changed my WOL (am now a carnivore). No diabetes, no inflammation, no cravings, and weight loss to boot! I've never felt better so imagine my surprise when I thought to myself recently, "Hmm, I'm feeling manic." Can't sit still. Spending money. Don't want to and can't sleep. Thank heavens for both CBT and DBT. After a discussion with my psychiatric meds doctor, he recommended I keep a journal for the next couple of weeks. I'm looking into behavioral therapies to deal with it because I love feeling again and don't like the potential side effects listed for the lamotrigine. 🤞🤞
Ive had the opposite happen to me.. I was diagnosed originally with bpd And then was inpatient treatment and the drs realized i had Bipolar 1 This had made me distrust the whole mental health world.. bc of all the mean and nasty things said to me. My favorite is when a hospital staff told me if i was serious about killing myself he would give me his gun.. thats the last time i asked for help from all inpatient. It made me for years to be okay to really talk to my mental health clinicians..
Jessica Rae heres a story. a girl was in a hospital for hypersexual. the nurse had her preform oral sex. then he rapped her. sued hospital for 10million. point is no one is safe. dont give up
This. This. This. This. I have refrained from attempting suicide because I have been convinced I will always fail and nothing will kill me because nothing has worked so far. And i will die before going back to inpatient.
I'd like if you could discuss that feeling of emptiness in Borderline Disorder more. I don't understand where it comes from or why it's so persistent. If you could shed some light on that, I and other folks here would be interested. Thank you Dr. Fox for all your helpful videos thus far :)
Thank you for making these videos. Not only do i relate to all these bpd criteria but your voice is very relaxing and makes me feel like i dont have to be so hopeless
Thank you Dr Fox,now that I’m aware of my BPD I’ve found it possible to not feel abandonment issues as painfully as I once did..I do struggle with shame and guilt but not frequently,however I find depression to be a constant and I do struggle with motivation. However I will start an exercise program as you recommend and balance my diet that’s my goal anyway!!!
I was 15 and diagnosed with PTSD. I started mutilating myself at the age of 10 years old. At 19 diagnosed with bi polar disorder. The mental health providers put me on all kinds of meds that rarely worked or made me worse. I went in at 35 or 36 to another doctor and I said I've tried all the meds for depression and bipolar disorder, went down the list, and I said they didn't work. She said because yes she believed I have a mood disorder, PTSD, anxiety disorder but not bi polar disorder and I had been misdiagnosed for all these years and actually have borderline personality disorder so that's why the meds didn't work. I wonder how much harm was done to my brain and body from meds that I never should have been on for something that I was misdiagnosed with... I went into an angry fit when she told me that. I left her office and had a few choice words for her before I left. She said would you prefer me to lie to you? My follow up appointment a month later I went in and thanked her. During that month I educated myself on bpd and it all clicked and I knew that she was absolutely correct. I always knew something was off because bi polar meds didn't work. Wish I had met her sooner. I'm 45 now and it's still a struggle but I feel blessed because I don't have addictions on top of my mental health disorders. I maybe worse now though because my kids are grown and gone and I shut myself off from the world, and rarely go anywhere and push everyone away. I love people but hate being around too many people. I get triggered easily. I enjoy your shows Dr. Fox. Thank you for doing what you do. I don't have health insurance and you help me a lot. God bless you.
@@mandywilson6750 I'm 61 and have been misdiagnosed my whole life! I was recently diagnosed with BPD and PTSD. I'm currently estranged from my only child and grandchildren because of my behavior. I've only recently recognized how awful I've been after she cut me out. I've sent her a written letter admitting to how I now can see how distorted my thinking has been and to give me another chance. She said she was hopeful for a relationship but as of now, she's not ready. I've been trying to do things to better myself. Got a part time job, started exercising yet my impatient distortion wants everything to get better NOW! And because life doesn't work that way, I regress quickly, freeze in fear of facing the day! Living in fear and misery of my own making! I just got out of bed and have been self talking on how I can and have to get moving. I cannot allow this to be my life! I'm going to accomplish some things today! I have to make the right choices! Thanks for your kind words! I must ask, how are you doing it?
@@pixieheart9303 I have good days and bad days like everyone else. Excersice, drink water, take care of yourself and let the bad feelings pass because they do pass.
Every time I try to make my comment shorter I end up going on and on, I guess it’s because I feel as though someone Finally understands,and I feel the relief,and there I go I’ll stop here,Thanks 🤗🤗🙏🏼🌈👏🏽.
Thank you for this very educational video. I have been diagnosed with Bipolar 2 and Borderline Personality Disorder. When you mentioned hospitalization, I wondered if a lot of other Borderline pd sufferers like hospital stays. I feel more safe in the hospital than anywhere on Earth. I have tried to keep my visits to a minimum because of this. I think part of it is the routine, which I have never had or been able to create. Even during my career and raising my son. I enjoy all of your videos and very much appreciate any advocate for those of us with these specific mental health issues. ✌️💙
OMG yes, I will get intense overwhelming feeling of fear/guilt/anger/confusion for 20-60 minutes and it 's so intense that it knocks me into a state of catatonia for an hour or two. I am conscious but very slow breathing, can't open my eyes and can barely move.
I go through both. Sometimes it's hours, and sometimes it's off and on through out days or a week or at least 3 or 4 days I was triggered today. I went from slightly irritated to pissed to crying to flipping out took an hour to calm down I go a dat or 2 without sleep. I was diagnosed with depression many years ago
I am diagnosed as both from two different doctors as I do have traits from both disorders.... But I have Bipolar II. Which all ranges of mental disorders runs on my mothers side (Skitzo, Bipolar I, II, OCD, ETc. ) I believe my step had narcissist personality disorder or borderline personality disorder or both, and I developed BPD in addition to hereditary Bipolar by being raised by him. Has took a lot of time to get to where I am now...at some points an absolute living hell. No other way to describe it. I find I can not tolerate a lot of medication, due to allergies and sensitivities so that has made things difficult. I had to change states and one doctor told me I can't be bipolar and not be on medication which I think if your in a full blown mania event as I have seen my mother and grandmother go into you certainly can come out of it at some point, just most people get help and come out of it faster... Medication for me seems to make me have more suicidal thoughts and other thoughts I shouldn't be having. Since I got off most of the medication and focused on meditation and DBT, I have less of those intense thoughts but I still have chronic suicidal ideation, and depression although the presence is there is not a an immediate in my face thought if you can understand that, its always there in the constant state in the back of my mind. It's good to find someone talking positively about this disorder as there are a lot of people who seem to want to demonize those with BPD, I have seen it in videos and on message boards it is quite awful even on videos such as educational ones you get people who basically tell us we are the worst people on the planet. So sometimes that is pretty depressing and can trigger some things that aren't nice. Thanks for video, this still confirms I have both disorders.
Very informative, exactly described my symptoms of BPD. I liked that you didn’t put us into that group of neediness and anger filled humans that should be avoided at all costs..
I have a problem with feeling like I made it all up in my head? I don’t know how to explain it because I identify with all of the criteria but I’ve been misdiagnosed and made fun of by mental health staff for trying to explain myself and it’s manifested into me feeling like a liar and making fun of myself a whole lot. I’m not sure if it’s possible to make a video on knowing which voice is talking if it’s clarity or just my mind being mean to me. It’s probably just my brain but I just never know if I’m valid or not. Just ordered your workbook and I’m very excited maybe that will help me a lot. BPD has ruined my life and my reputation but no one will listen.
If only the medical professionals Ive encountered have been willing to listen to me. 95% have felt they know everything and so I have to be my own advocate and move on to look for a doctor who has the ability to listen. I finally did find a fantastic general practitioner and she pretty much saved my life. I absolutely have bipolar and I am not ok without medication.
Thankyou, during the video I had intense emotions and crying - often my normal, to having a sense of hope at the end of your video when you said these are treatable. I definitely have no sense of balance, I originally had a diagnosis of Bipolar for over 12 years and then I started seeing Dr Adrian Ashton from CBT Professionals on the Gold Coast QLD Australia, and within 2 sessions he said this is classic BPD and my treatment changed and Im responding well. I am now 46 and my troubles with unintentional rejection started from a very young age, I was the youngest of nine children. For me it is about the Interpersonal and social rhythm therapy to try and stabilse my emotions. Thankyou for your videos they are very helpful. Regards Linda
Hey dr fox, i would be very interested in a video comparing self harming in different disorders. People with borderline do self harm so do some with depression, bipolar or npd, but do they all do for the same reasons? If not pls make a video adressing the topic:)
Npd I never heard of. I know I have compulsive issues. And alot of the symptoms of both these, but never heard of that. I would like to see a video on this.
@@RAVENMoonTarot Hi Raven, NPD stands for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These people lack empathy for others,they have a grandiose sense of self, they're extremely manipulative, mentally and sometimes physically abusive to their significant other/spouse. They tend to project their own insecurities/issues onto you as if you're the one who is the problem and that no one likes. At first they come off as very charismatic and love bomb you for about year, studying your weaknesses,strengths and whatever personal secrets you share with them are used as fuel to throw back in your face later in the relationship as a tactic to make you feel low about yourself. This term is called,"Gaslighting ". Unfortunately there are no medicines to treat this disorder and they typically dont go to therapy bc in their head, they think nothing is wrong with them. There are different types called,"cluster B's" with some being worse than others which are your,"Covert Narcs,Overt Narcs,Somatic Narcs,Cerebral Narcs and Malignant Narcs. " The Overt narcs are easily to spot within talking to for 5 min. Think of someone talking about themselves a lot on a first date, then saying,"Enough about me, let me hear you speak more about me." That's an Overt Narc.. very egotistical. It's the damn Covert ones that are the most Vindictive bc they put on a facade/ wear fake mask to be a great person in your eyes, and once they know you've fallen in love with them, they take off that fake mask and reveal their true selves! So basically, the person you fell in love with was just an illusion ,not their true self! These individuals are emotional vampire's bc their drug of choice is you...its their high. Narcicissim has become a damn epidemic. So I encourage you to educate yourself on these vultures by watching you tube videos on here. So you'll know all the red flags. Hope my comment helped.😉
@@belle3055 I don't cut or burn, i've had enough pain from being beaten. I just want the pain to be gone, so I find other ways to numb, to me no matter how bad being empty feels, it's better than being in pain.
I feel like I finally understand the differences between these 2 so much better now. Great explanations using simple language and terms. Thanks for breaking it all down. 🙏🏼
Thank you so much for your videos this one really help me that I’m watching now and I hope it helps my sister. I think she has both bipolar and BPD she’s been diagnosed with bipolar. But she has abandonment issues like I do because I’ve been diagnosed with BPD. And I sent it to her and I hope she watches it and I hope it helps herTo get the help she needs thank you very much!
The Mayo Clinic says you can have both. You can have anger, panic attacks, anxiety, racing thoughts as well as identity issues and suicidal thoughts based off of not being able to handle a traumatic event.
Bipolar 1 involves psychosis lasting weeks to months. They have similarities but are not identical otherwise what would be the point of having two names for the same thing??!!
Hello I just wanted to say your videos are really great and have helped me out a lot in terms of understanding my BPD I was diagnosed 2 years ago with severe manic Bipolar disorder and Borderline personality disorder and the information in your videos makes a bit simpler to understand what's going on. Thank you
No one ever said I have either condition ( maybe something else) but I can relate to some BPD symptoms. I don’t understand what fear of abandonment attribute means to someone who already feels abandoned - no friends, no loves. Some people have this or that illness then ...the insurance runs out and they’re well.
BPD and Bipolar really do present themselves similarly... but the way the symptoms are experienced, when and how are what help. The way I can say in my way is.... BPD is triggered and shorter lasting episodes.... Bipolar episodes are out of no where and is continuous for days to a weeks. And yes I have severe anxieties thats cause restless sleep and itchy energy during the day at times, but Im always worrying or being triggered... they are nothing like a hypomanic episode, the thoughts and the way my body and brain behaves is completely different. Severe anxiety can look hypomanic, but I will still feel tired and sometimes nap... I will NOT feel tired or need much rest for DAYS and the thought process is completely different in hypomanic state. PDD, Anxieties and Borderline are 24\7... Bipolar for me is a couple times a year maybe. I have PDD and Borderline Personality Disorder......... and fucking Bipolar 2. It took forever for me to explain that they dont feel the same when and how they happen to me.... and then it finally all made sense once the Bipolar 2 fit in there. (was hard because I have random psychosis too and its not the Bipolar that does it... its the fucking Borderline, I stared to understand how similar they can present to diagnose, but I can express how and when things happen enough to differentiate them). I kept saying I always been low mood and depressed since i was young... and then if something happened i would 0-100 go triggered severely depressed for hours to a day or so. then back to regular depressed...... then Id have out of no where severe depression for like a week or so and then back to blah. They thought double depression.... then I had a hypomanic episode infront of my therapist after spending months describing these random episodes I get out of the blue and they were hypomanic agitations of euphoric and severe irritability. So I have PDD, BPD and Bipolar 2. If I didnt have the insane insight that I do... I dont think id of been diagnosed that fast. I also have shitty anxiety disorders that eat me alive OCD, C-PTSD, GAD, Social, and now I developed Panic after my last concussion.
I just love ya and all your outreach to these mental health issues, needed! And truths, not hurting like my personal experience with 4 therapists. My advice to others, don't give up looking for a sound therapist and person, life gets better, and storms make us wiser and stronger, which we just have to do, and go into, to come out better people. Gold Star for Dr. Fox!
I just absolutely love this guy!!! In my small town I swear every therapist screams bipolar. I told my court ordered therapist I was diagnosed with Borderline and he seriously said “what is that?” and then tried to change it to bipolar. But I really didn’t agree with it. Even though diagnoses can be scary it is also a aha moment to understanding yourself. I felt that with Borderline but bipolar I felt that I didn’t fall into that. And I do understand you can have both but here in my small town bipolar and ADHD is like the only 2 things ppl get diagnosed with and thrown pills it’s really sad. That’s why I love UA-cam and Dr.Fox cuz now ppl can understand there are so many more diagnoses out there and even though he clearly says he isn’t diagnosing anyone but if you feel like he is describing you now you can go out and ask proper questions to ur healthcare and not settle with a misdiagnosis
I am someone who fell in love with a borderline woman were engaged and then broke up. I’d like to see a video focused on how a loved one of a borderline can recover from such a breakup. The pain was just as if not more intense than the relationship was.
Dr. Danile Fox thank you very much for your genuine and very informative video. Fantastic point on the "guilt and shame" that mostly BPD suffer compare to BD. Possibly also fear of abandonment, is more commune in BPD than BD, but I am not a psychologist and don't know the statistics.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you found the video informative and resonated with the points I made about guilt and shame in BPD. It's important to shed light on these topics and create awareness.
My wasband, dually diagnosed, used to eat therapists for lunch. He'd laugh on his way home about how he had them wrapped around his finger. He merely used the experience to study how to be emotionally appealing. How to manipulate people better by being able to appear deep and sensitive. He also used the experience against me. Convincing the therapist that I didn't appreciate this caring man. A therapist, in particular, refused to believe I was in danger when I told her he had tried to kill me. She literally laughed in our joint session with my then husband. (Even though I hadn't given permission to talk about it. ) "Did you do those things? " "Do I look like the kind of person who would do those things? " "No." She was a highly regarded, certified therapist who had been targeted by this disordered man. Many experts believe therapy isn't helpful for Cluster B PDs because it often makes the ability to manipulate worse.
What if a family member (my niece) sets your back porch on fire three times, floods the house with all faucets on in sinks and bathtubs, calls the police when you are sleeping stating that you are suicidal when you're not just to try to get you in trouble, lies to all the neighbors about who you really are, and more horrible things? I had to ask this family member (my niece) to leave and I cannot and will not live under conditions of not knowing what kind of danger that I might experience in the future.
Hi Dr. Fox, your videos have helped me tremendously and continue to do so. I recently noticed a pattern in my BPD symptoms, and that is that when im PMSing, it gets really bad and thats when i tend to have my episodes. have you heard of others having the same experience? since finding this pattern i can prepare for it and almost expect it and it has helped my BPD a lot as its more manageable when i can predict it coming. id love to hear others experiences too and if anyone here can relate. thanks!
Here is an article. Knowing this is building insight which can help you plan management strategies. www.psychiatryadvisor.com/personality-disorders/perimenstrual-symptom-exacerbation-observed-in-borderline-personality-disorder/article/775278/
Hello Dr Fox. Thank you so much for your videos! They ate extremely insightful and help to clear up alot of questions that i have had (and others as well) about BPD. It would be great to see more videos about Bipolar Disorder. My little sister has been diagnosed with it and i am trying to understand it better. Again, thank you!
I think i have both, but my doctor thinks diagnosis might be hurtful and make me feel hopeless so the most he'll say is i have emotionally intensity. I haven't straight up asked him, what do i have? Cause it makes me nervous idk why, ive been seeing him weekly for 5 months. Anyways this is my theory. I think have bipolar disorder 2 genetically, based on family history and based on my own experiences, documentation, and reaearch. I also think I have BPD but that is based on my environment as i developed at a child. Im thinking about asking to be prescribed lamictal as i have seen so many say it helps them, but i said at the beginning i didnt want to rely on medicine so he hasnt brought it up
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Before i say all sorts of wonderful things about this video-which it totally merits-i have to beg you to get a different background and different shirt. Remember you’re dealing with people who may be depressed anyway. Aside from the visuals, I advocate cloning you. A lot of us would flock to a therapist who balanced wisdom, compassion, skill, and dedication.
Dr. Fox, what about the "caffeine" hangover the next day from going over about 50-60 mg per day. IE if I do about 150mg of caffeine, my Borderline symptom of abandonment fear, not good enough seems to totally spike out of control on next day hangover.
You are absolutely on o something. Caffeine, although I'm drinking some now, can spike up many symptoms of many illnesses. Try to balance decaf (an ugly word but important) and half-caf throughout your day. Also, caffeine is in more than just coffee. Great question!! Here's an article: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20164571
Since i was 15 ( I am 28) i was diagnosed with manic depression. The last time I went to go try and get help again I was diagnosed with manic depression, anxiety, and BPD. I don't understand how you can be both legally psychotic and borderline psychotic?
Thank you, Dr. Fox, for this video and all of the work that you are doing. Comment re the backdrop: it looks alright, but it might be a bit boring to use on a regular basis for longer videos. It's nice to have something for the eyes to wander during videos, but you don't want it to be too distracting... Kati Morton (to name one example) just has stuff behind her and that can work very well. How about something like a corner with a comfy chair and a bookcase and art? Or maybe that is too cliché... The diplomas were nice to show your qualifications, but having something more or different is good. How about getting input from a professional for this kind of thing, like working with someone to come up with a few "corners" for videos? Just feedback and brainstorming.
I am glad, i have 'only' BPD. But I have friends with both and can imagine it as an extra trouble. At least i got depression and that kinda like half of it. So i can go the extra mile in my head to conclude how terrible that must be, but also how obvious the connections are. But it still wonders me that both get confused with each other. on another note: I don't know how much insigth u have there or if there is any data about it... but it would interest me how BPD affects us Autists differently than Allists (non-autists)
I have episodes of 3 days at a time, but not in order. Once a week, maybe two. I have gone 5 days of sleep and then 5 days of awake without drugs or alcohol. I was tired for long, I felt I had the energy for days at end
I have BPD, PTSD, Generalized anxiety disorder and apparently bi polar II. My question is if you can explain why I have other identities within me. They are as real to me as a person standing in front of me. I completed DBT, you however have explained to me more than a year of treatment. But I have been told they are all me. Who is the real me?
I am recently diagnosed with BPD and bi polar disorder, although I believe the BPD is more accurately me. All I ever want to do is sleep. Just to escape the madness. I often describe myself as exhausted. Between my emotions and my mental extremes, and faking being all put together everyday, I literally just want to not think. Not feel. But even while sleeping, I hear myself thinking. It's terrible... exhausting... Is this common in patients you see?
Very common. Try yoga, mindfulness, or there are so really good VR meditation practices you could try. Find a place to shut it off and allow yourself moments of peace. Start small and build. An expectation of an hour, or even a half, may be too much for you. Work up to it. I wish you all the best.
Dr. Fox, can you please suggest something for me to read or explain a little here about Florid Borderline Recation and what that looks like? You talk a lot about maniv episodes and what those look like but not much about the others. I am trying to understand this concept and how it applies to me. Thank you, as always, you are a treasure. Amanda
When someone says they will never have Love in their life again, what if they really mean they will never let themselves be vulnerable to allow that to happen?
The more I learn about my mental illnesses the more I understand why my family hates me I feel like a monster I destroy everyone and everything I love. I did not ask for this and I would not wish this on anyone. I've only started learning about what was wrong with me when I was 38 I'm 41 now.
How do you keep track of it I know this is something I'm going to have to work very hard at to do and it's the best suggestion is something my talk therapist said as well journaling is so important especially with these conditions it's very much have to focus on trying to focus to be able to keep up with writing down all the things that go on I do realize how important it is this video like many of your others have helped me very much I appreciate that very much and thank you for the reminder to work even harder at journaling all the work you do is a huge blessing and very much appreciated
I'm glad to hear that my video resonated with you! Journaling can be a powerful tool for self-reflection and tracking progress. Keep at it, and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions!
@@DrDanielFox thank you so much for replying to my comment it absolutely made my day! You've been such an inspiration an amazing guidance and helping me to understand my own Mental Health conditions and the steps I can take to help myself you are appreciated I honestly can't stop thinking about the video on the extremes of BPD thinking all good or all bad and your example of staying in the gray to do with your client having liked chocolate and the example of how most folks would not like chocolate-covered grasshoppers, it's such a simple way of putting it but it resonates with me so much and it's an easy thing for my mind to go back to I've been catching myself and doing my best not to speak in extreme words like always never forever even if in the moment I believe it will be that I've learned to say and believe things such as for the foreseeable future, unless things significantly change for the better I do feel better about those energies then the extremes none of us can actually stay in those extremes nor should we what you do is phenomenal and absolutely appreciated!
Great video. Well explained & glad to hear that these two issues can co-exist as my diagnosis was BPD with bipolar features. I do not however have abandonment issues. I'm confused. Can I have a BPD diagnosis without this?
Thank you. Very interesting. I have NO impulse control issues. And yet a Borderline diagnosis was put on my file without anyone telling me. I am quite sure that I have Bipolar, though it is Bipolar II.
Hello thanks for your words I just wanted to ask you I am a person who is diagnosed with bipolar one around the age of 30 and now I'm 60 and just getting an additional diagnosis of borderline and I guess the thing I'm wanting to ask is how is it possible for me to get my family to acknowledge that I have these no matter what I have done or has happened in my life all these years. My family has never acknowledge these disorders as having any responsibility or partial calls or anything in what has happened they treat me as a person just like any other, and I catch all the blame for anything that might occur without any consideration for the struggles that I'm going through the horrible pain that I'm in that might be affecting my actions. I don't know how to get these people to see this in my life and to understand me and that I'm not choosing to do things that might affect us please help, Danielle
Im pretty sure i have both. Im very confused, and i wish i knew exactly what is wrong with me. Im afraid that i have been misdiagnosed because at the time i got diagnosed i had just come out of a decade long mentally torturing relationship, and i was showing alot of signs of emotional disconnect, and i diden't feel anything for anyone, showing alot of anti-social thoughts and behaviour. I am diagnosed with mixed personality disorder with multible disorders together (borderline, Anti-social, depressive)... But now that 1.5 year has passed, i have been experiencing alot of my real issues. Im having these highs and very lows, which to me seems like type 2 bipolar because i can't quite figure out if i am experiencing hypomania or not, this summer i was riding a wave, a somewhat nervous state, and now im at a low, but i still can't feel my baseline mood, it's not stable at all, even though im on medication (Lamotrigin, and Seroquel). Especially the Lamotrigin helped me in the beginning, and the seroquel has helped me sleep alot better, so it's good. BUT i have trouble ALL the time and im never really okay and stable, which could maybe seem like i have both at the same time, it's confusing... Any thoughts?
If medication (Abilify) controls mood extremes does that mean you were misdiagnosed with BPD?…l have severe loss of abandonment and hit all 9 BPD criteria as l read them. My moods are related to human relationships and one nice word and l am happy…but probably always low key suicidal. DBT alone wasn’t working due to extreme fight flight. My new doc has diagnosed bipolar alone… My medical record shows rage/depression starting age 5 (yes major life trauma) and over medicated me for ADHD until l became severely suicidal… Would comorbid bipolar and cPTSD mimic BPD? Can you describe what comorbid disorders look like more? BP/BPD vs BP/cPTSD…
I'm diagnosed Bipolar II adhd and BPD also OCD tendencies which I'm pretty sure is now full blown OCD. As it affects my life worse than anything else now. I'm so confused. I'm not sure how I can have all of them. Sometimes I feel so paranoid too like if I say things they will happen. Or that I predict things/ that things are a sign... Which doesn't seem to fit any. But then I wonder if it is genuinely a gift as I have successfully predicted deaths. Including Bowie. So so confused. It'd help if I could get the right help. The waiting lists here are ridiculous. And my CPN discharged me for being too complex. :(
That bruh moment when you fit the criteria for both. I also fit the criteria for CPTSD. Either way, I've had hypomanic episodes for years with no trigger needed followed by either euthymic mood or depressive episodes. But I also present all of the interpersonal issues and triggers of Borderline- but at the same time I interpret it as emotional flashbacks from the CPTSD (at least in my case I think both BPD and complex trauma go hand in hand). The only dx I have is Major depression given to me at 14, and then I took Zoloft and ended up having a manic episode. I was basically hypomanic the entire time I was on it until the last months I took it, where it stopped working. I haven't had any other medication since. Usually I have reocurrent depressive episodes, that's for sure. During my seemingly hypomanic episodes in other hand I feel happy, elevated, motivated, I start projects, I clean, I become extremely talkative and binge watch videos for days on end, I have pressured speech, my thoughts race. I feel no need for sleep but my body cannot really take it so I sleep for four hours then spring back up energized. The last one was a month ago- it lasted for seven days. Then I crashed. Am having a depressive episode right now and I'm suicidal. I know I need help ... I just can't get it. It really sucks.
Im so sorry you're going through such a rough time. Hope you will be able to find a support system and outlast your trials. Much love and respect, take care and stay safe!
I have comorbid bipolar and borderline personality disorder. It can be really difficult separating the two at times. I am in therapy and in the process of changing medication for my bipolar. In changing my meds it seems like a lot of my bpd symptoms have heightened too.
They aren’t listening to me. Please help me. How do I get them to listen to me? Ppl are not listening to me, and then telling me they are not sure what is going on with me but that at that same time I need to take meds. I also resonate A LOT with things I have read seen about Autism. And so far any meds I have bad reactions to (6 diff including lithium) and was recently told i have a sensory processing disorder and hypersensitivity. I am fine, but then wil be triggered by something interpersonal. [and have a history of childhood abuse for 19 yrs and my abuser just passed away and i have cptsd]. I can and will and do have multiple episodes per DAY. As many as 12 up/down combos in one day. It has happened. A lot lately. I will get an energy high - I only smoke weed and sometimes have a few drinks but I do not use alcohol to medicate bc my mom is an alcoholic, I mainly use weed - and I cannot sleep. I will get very tired [I have depression so I get tired anyways] and then try to sleep but wake up in an hour or two or three at the most and then be super wired and usually really anxious paranoid and judge mental/ like ready to argue. I usually have meltdowns bc im so uncomfortable physically at this time; itchy too hot then too cold things hurt noises are too loud and i will scream and cry and then get a super burst of impulsive energy. It’s short lived and i get so unmotivated and depressed. Usually i get my things together and get dressed to go t the hospital - today i was walking to dunkin to get an Uber there n then i just got so depressed and scared and unmotivated and paranoid - I DO NOT want bipolar meds again yet they keep pushing - and I get depressed. Go home. Finally fall asleep tho today I’m still waiting its been like 5 hrs. Just watching UA-cam trying to be ok..... i cant go into the hospital when i dont feel safe there..... i dont feel safe anywhere. What do i do? They wont listen... i want an autism test and a real eval before i eat any pills again they really really mess up my body and mind for a long time i am very sensitive to everything.
Sometimes a trigger can last me for about 4 days.. I've always assumed it was pms coming but lately I'm noticing its not adding up. My dad has bipolar type 1 ......i know better when I get in these moods but I just cannot shake it sometimes. 🤔 I feel like some bpd symptoms have definitely lessened with age because although I fear abandonment , I also understand that people will always come and go, its life but there's usually someone just as cool around the corner. I've also stopped self harming. a big struggle of mine is chronic emptiness and loneliness with a touch of agoraphobia .
Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪🌞 Thank you, Dr. Fox, for doing these teachings. They really are good and helpful. I would really much like to hear about sleep hygiene.
i was diagnosed with BPD tendencies and bipolar II disorder but don't really have the financial means to treat either...so have been binge watching your videos to try to help myself hopefully. It sucks because sometimes I can't distinguish whats real and whats perceived and constantly go back and forth between the two. Is there a way to identify when I am perceiving and overthinking things?
+Victoria Jeon There are many good workbooks out there and they can help you build the skills you need to manage your symptoms and assess what is going on around you. Here’s the link to one that I like a lot www.newharbinger.com/dialectical-behavior-therapy-skills-workbook
Me and my psychiatrist are very confused, because i know that my mood changes slow, from days to weeks to even months but also there are triggers for that episodic mood. So, what am i? and i have ptsd too.
I feel so bad for my partner. He didn’t sign up for this and he feels like he’s on a constant rollercoaster ride. Sometimes I feel like I should just go at it alone so I don’t burden anyone.
Remember, it's treatable.
I feel the same exact way about my partner. Maybe you will work it out together. Or maybe another partner will be more understanding, one day.
Either way, remember: it's treatable.
The same here! 😔
Same. My partner probably has suffered as much as myself, and I have the extra shame and guilt for the emotional damage she has and is paying because of my mental illness. I wish i was dead, not only because of my own agony, but the oain and hurt I have caused to my friends, family(who also have mental issues,tho some are in denial) but especially to my partner. WHY she has put up with me all these years is beyond my capacity to understand. I KNOW she has suffered more than ANY human being should be expected to. I feel like I am an evil person because even my pets have suffered. Just wish it was over. I really just want to die. No longer able to contribute any thing positive to anyone. I am an atheist(former believer)and having menral illness is hell enough. Dont have any interest in going to heaven or hell. Eternity in either would be an absolute HORROR, worse than any suffering humans have in this mortal life. Thanks, but no thanks. Bye
@@mardishores4016 Please be safe, I am very concerned for you. You are not alone, even though it feels that way. There are people who want to help you, you can have a real life if you work for it. If you have the energy to fight this demon, please do all you can to hold on. Please know I am honestly and truly sending you my love in this time of need 💖🤗
@@mardishores4016 are you ok?
Thank you Dr Fox. I watched all your videos on BPD as i have in the past year been diagnosed and everything makes so much more sense now. But it is still a scary thing to live with. I watch your videos about BPD to calm down because they make me feel like I'm not crazy and there are reasons for the ways i feel and act. Your videos help me a lot!!!
I'm still waiting to get a diagnosis. I have been diagnosed with bi polar by lazy physciatrist's. A physiologist told me I had all the check marks for b.p.d. but oh don't worry about it.
Be strong and stay the course for your wellness. It is scary but not insurmountable, though it feels that way sometimes.
Clementine Adams be strong and stay the course. It’s tough sometimes and feels overwhelming but you’re resilient. Be well.
I agree it was so scary when I was diagnosed I googled it and it was all doctor type of articles and one thing stuck out is that BPDs are not capable of love. Cuz I felt like I loved ppl and it got me questioning if that was real or not. But finding Dr. Fox I have learned soooo much including there is different BPDs and never dismisses the true feelings we have. It has made me feel so much better about my diagnoses and gives me a place to start to try to manage what I have
@@aukama thank you for your encouraging comment. I’m curious: have you found any particular support groups that are helpful? Other resources (ie books)? I have completed DBT - but feel I need to go through it again!!
You should have a podcast so that it’s easier to listen to you when I’m on the go. Although I appreciate seeing your face.
interesting idea. Thanks
I second this.
Me third
Me fifth
I was thinking this too!
I think I have both. I have triggers like being disrespected, insulted or rejected.
Everyone always talk about triggers like abandonment, but this. Disrespected, rejected, those are severe triggers and will result in episodes.
Diagnosed Bipolar II & BPD. I often have a hard time identifying if they're "working together" or if one triggered the other.
Basic backdrop is decent, btw. I'm glad you talked about this.
+Shin - triggers and tracking episodes are important. Thanks for comment on the backdrop.
I am diagnosed the same! I find I am layered, and sometimes I experience both disorders at the same time, its really kinda odd. Other times I do notice one will trigger the other and I will have "space" between the two, its extremely hard to put into words though. One thing I can sort of explain is I get these intense feelings like I can actually see my thoughts just zipping through everything is going so fast but I'm standing still. Kinda like in a movie where you see the point of focus but everything else is lightening fast....I call it the "glitch" My brain is going faster than I can deal with I think. It overwhelms me and I have to just sit and breath. Sometimes I stand in shower with hot water on so I can just focus on that. I would assume that is the mania kicking in, shortly after I tank and get extremely suicidal and depressed, sometimes it concurs with it while that is all going on. Its crazy feeling all that way at once its not fun.
@realmofoz
Do you feel like you have multiple personalities or characters?
Like slightly different thoughts and world views and overall characteristic?
I was diagnosed with bd 2 and i feel like i have more than 3 phases.
And it is hard for me to see who i am at my base stable self.
Until i was diagnosed, i just thought that im a very colorful individual with a lot of different fields of interest and the ability to fit everywhere and with everyone (in mania, in depression it feels like nowhere)
Hey Dr. Fox, I have BPD and I'm Bipolar. I've seen about 6 of your videos. You are truly well educated on how I feel and what to do about it. I'm finding you are helpful to me and I'm understanding more and more as I strive to be better. I'm in therapy and medicated. I have a 2.5 year old. I'm using your worksheets and I just want to to know that you did this to help people... You're helping me. Thank you very much. You makeb more videos, I'll watch them, take notes, print extra materials, watch them 5x each and recommend you to others. You are the fucking best, thanks for spending your personal time doing this. You the best.
I have been suffering in silence with BPD since I was diagnosed at 19. I am now 39 and am finally ready to accept that this is my personal battle within myself - the fear of abandonment shows up almost every day- I feel scared and emptiness all the time- I am not good at anything because I cannot be in the moment long enough to focus my attention on any sort of mindful task . I feel so lost and broken and scared all the time . I get triggered and although I stopped self harming years and years ago, I still feel that way- I want to so desperately . I have clawed at my own face in the mirror in such disgust and shame at myself. The self hatred the self loathing the humiliation .
You feel fear for 20 years..?
i'm so sorry, Angie. I am so much like you. I have given up ever trying to have any romantic relationships. No one wants me like I am. I sabotage every thing I do . I have become a sad, shamed, hateful, bitter woman just waiting to get out of this life. I don't know why I'm this way. I didn't do it t y
Hi Angie, Meditation and Mindfulness is what you need, lots of videos on UA-cam. Accepts your sell for how you are, your issue with BPD exists for a reason, but is in the past and we can't change the past, don't feel guilty about that, instead use Meditation and Manfulness to change your life.
I have unfortunately zero positive others to help me when I get triggered. But, I do have the internet and I do rely heavily on the UA-cam community and you, Dr. Fox ! Lol. Fortunately, I do not drink, or drug , engage in promiscuity etc.... I just suffer the paranoia , and pathological loneliness of the bpd whilst trying to reparent myself.... An interesting side note ... I host people who bicycle across Canada and they often are raising awareness for a cause. This summer a young couple came who were raising awareness for mental health issues. I had another cyclist at the same time who shared his battle with depression. It was so refreshing to discuss these issues in casual conversation ...... I am baffled as to why there is such incredible stigma around mental illness....I haven't had a soul to talk to since... Thanks again for your efforts Dr. Fox
+Helena Chase I’m so glad they are helpful for you. Be well.
I am always willing to talk if you want to Facebook me? Or add me on Instagram. I have maybe 2 people. I rely on people from facebook,you tube,etc. Myself.
I'm here for you. Really
Helena what an apt expression! Reparenting oneself is exactly the treatment and demonstrates the root of the problem as well. Good for and in you to have the strength to do this by yourself and to give to others at the same time. I have a theory that bpd-s are not full blown narcissists because they have a heart, that is their core content. Grace be with you.
@@juliettailor1616 . Thanks Julie. I read Pete Walker's CPTSD FROM SURVIVING TO THRIVING. He spoke of a community of books , when your family of origin is unsafe. I really took this to heart. I watch youtube videos rather than read and have learned much from my new family ! The concept of reparenting oneself with great love has really spoken to me... I was called " scum " constantly by my mother amongst many other disgusting names too horrible to mention. Reparenting myself is my only option.
My wife and I have just begun dealing with an adult daughter whom we believe is a "legacy" that was afflicted with the disorder, consistent with behaviors manifested by my mother and brother. Your video has enlightened me by connecting research to the observations and conclusions I have had to deal with w/o insider-understanding. I now realize that BPD, which we only heard about a few years ago, is a very complex onion to peel. Accepting the fact that it is a true disorder should lend patience to this process sustain me in supporting her on a path of improvement. I will resort to your videos, often, to learn more and to refresh what have already learned. Your videos are empowering to us and we will have our daughter watch them as an informational and coaching-tool. Thank you.
So many people suffer from mental illness it's unbelievable. I have BPD, GAD, panic disorder, and agoraphobia. Imagine me out here trying to hold down a job lol. I was turned down for disability and my husband of 16 years passed away last year unexpectedly. I'm currently living with my daughter and trying very hard to keep myself together. Mental illness is so stigmatized and so many people are suffering. Coming to channels like this and reading the comments help me to realize at least I'm not alone. Another major issue is trying to get and keep health care in the United States is another cross we have to bear. Stay strong people and thanks for listening.
I was started on lithium after diagnosed with perpeural psychosis after my first child was born and it was determined I have Bipolar 1. I am lucky because unlike many people who take a whole cocktail of drugs that tend not to work, I have gotten on really well with lithium. I now at thd age of 52, have Chronic Kidney Disease probably as a result of taking lithium for 30 years but I wouldn't have it any other way. Bipolar psychosis has to be the most frightening experience ever and I could easily have died by accident as well as end up blind in one eye.
Routine is SO important. When the boxer, Frank Bruno gave up boxing, that was when he was diagnosed with Bipolar.
Sleep, no recreational drugs, good diet, no alcohol and fresh air plus a thought for loved ones, enough to be responsible and not talk in terms of enjoying manic episodes coz I can guarantee your family members don't enjoy them - and taking lithium religiously or whatever medication suits you and Bipolar 1 will not rule your life!
What if someone's triggers are always related to interpersonal conflicts having to do with intense fears of abandonment/ rejection, but the episodes that are triggered can last weeks or months at a time (if the conflict isn't resolved, they experience a break-up/ lose a friend, the relationship continues to be a source of fear, etc.) and the episodes meet criteria for depression and/ or mixed/ dysphoric mania? So for example, if you go through a break-up or a fight with a friend or experience of having a negative relationship with a supervisor at work or a life transition like changing jobs and then feel empty, guilty, ashamed, extremely sad, unable to concentrate, self-hatred, suicidal ideations, difficulties at work, etc., with or without manic/ hypomanic symptoms like racing thoughts, very little sleep, intense impulsivity, flights of ideas about how to fix things with overconfidence that they will work, inability to stop talking, etc.- but those feelings last for weeks or months at a time (maybe not every second, but most of the day every day)? And you have a pattern where this happens repeatedly- sometimes for only a few hours until the relationship is repaired, but other times for weeks or months if the relationship isn't repaired? Also, in this case the baseline state is not an underlying constant depression (relatively good self-confidence, interpersonal relationships, optimism, mood states, etc. outside of these episodes triggered by conflicts with favorite people)?
Could be both
That’s accurate tho…. totally understand where ya coming from shit ain’t easy to deal with me an my girl both have it shit be hard but you can make it thru together if you both want it an work on it like genuinely want to work together to recognize each other’s triggers an actively adjust to those to help mitigate the issues that pop up in life
You just describe myself!
Just diagnosed. I'm fearful of lamotrigine. I had been on a cocktail of anti depressants for more than 30 years before I discovered that I WASN'T depressed, (dysthymia), but instead have BPD, am OCD & ADHD, and suffer from PTSD (child of holocaust survivors). I eliminated all the meds I'd been placed on, using Prozac (20mg) to finally and safely eliminate the Cymbalta without the nasty withdrawal symptoms.
On top of all of that, I'm also now off all my former health medicines because i drastically changed my WOL (am now a carnivore). No diabetes, no inflammation, no cravings, and weight loss to boot!
I've never felt better so imagine my surprise when I thought to myself recently, "Hmm, I'm feeling manic." Can't sit still. Spending money. Don't want to and can't sleep. Thank heavens for both CBT and DBT.
After a discussion with my psychiatric meds doctor, he recommended I keep a journal for the next couple of weeks.
I'm looking into behavioral therapies to deal with it because I love feeling again and don't like the potential side effects listed for the lamotrigine. 🤞🤞
Ive had the opposite happen to me..
I was diagnosed originally with bpd
And then was inpatient treatment and the drs realized i had Bipolar 1
This had made me distrust the whole mental health world.. bc of all the mean and nasty things said to me. My favorite is when a hospital staff told me if i was serious about killing myself he would give me his gun.. thats the last time i asked for help from all inpatient.
It made me for years to be okay to really talk to my mental health clinicians..
wow that is sad
Jessica Rae heres a story. a girl was in a hospital for hypersexual. the nurse had her preform oral sex. then he rapped her. sued hospital for 10million. point is no one is safe. dont give up
This. This. This. This. I have refrained from attempting suicide because I have been convinced I will always fail and nothing will kill me because nothing has worked so far. And i will die before going back to inpatient.
@@supermodelatlanta1354 that's fucked up
I'd like if you could discuss that feeling of emptiness in Borderline Disorder more. I don't understand where it comes from or why it's so persistent. If you could shed some light on that, I and other folks here would be interested. Thank you Dr. Fox for all your helpful videos thus far :)
I'll add it to the list, thanks.
Thank you for making these videos. Not only do i relate to all these bpd criteria but your voice is very relaxing and makes me feel like i dont have to be so hopeless
Thank you Dr Fox,now that I’m aware of my BPD I’ve found it possible to not feel abandonment issues
as painfully as I once did..I do struggle with shame and guilt but not frequently,however I find depression to be a constant and I do struggle with motivation. However I will start an exercise program as you recommend and balance my diet that’s my goal anyway!!!
+jean willis wonderful news. Stay the course and be well.
I was 15 and diagnosed with PTSD. I started mutilating myself at the age of 10 years old. At 19 diagnosed with bi polar disorder. The mental health providers put me on all kinds of meds that rarely worked or made me worse. I went in at 35 or 36 to another doctor and I said I've tried all the meds for depression and bipolar disorder, went down the list, and I said they didn't work. She said because yes she believed I have a mood disorder, PTSD, anxiety disorder but not bi polar disorder and I had been misdiagnosed for all these years and actually have borderline personality disorder so that's why the meds didn't work. I wonder how much harm was done to my brain and body from meds that I never should have been on for something that I was misdiagnosed with... I went into an angry fit when she told me that. I left her office and had a few choice words for her before I left. She said would you prefer me to lie to you? My follow up appointment a month later I went in and thanked her. During that month I educated myself on bpd and it all clicked and I knew that she was absolutely correct. I always knew something was off because bi polar meds didn't work. Wish I had met her sooner. I'm 45 now and it's still a struggle but I feel blessed because I don't have addictions on top of my mental health disorders. I maybe worse now though because my kids are grown and gone and I shut myself off from the world, and rarely go anywhere and push everyone away. I love people but hate being around too many people. I get triggered easily. I enjoy your shows Dr. Fox. Thank you for doing what you do. I don't have health insurance and you help me a lot. God bless you.
I’m so glad that you find the material helpful for you. I wish you all the best
I feel the same way as you. I hate being alone but Im also intolerant and irritable towards others. I'm living in my own self made hell.
@@pixieheart9303 it can get better. It will get better. Move through it and leave it behind. It gets easier as you get older. Prayers for you!
@@mandywilson6750 I'm 61 and have been misdiagnosed my whole life! I was recently diagnosed with BPD and PTSD. I'm currently estranged from my only child and grandchildren because of my behavior. I've only recently recognized how awful I've been after she cut me out. I've sent her a written letter admitting to how I now can see how distorted my thinking has been and to give me another chance. She said she was hopeful for a relationship but as of now, she's not ready. I've been trying to do things to better myself. Got a part time job, started exercising yet my impatient distortion wants everything to get better NOW! And because life doesn't work that way, I regress quickly, freeze in fear of facing the day! Living in fear and misery of my own making! I just got out of bed and have been self talking on how I can and have to get moving. I cannot allow this to be my life! I'm going to accomplish some things today! I have to make the right choices! Thanks for your kind words! I must ask, how are you doing it?
@@pixieheart9303 I have good days and bad days like everyone else. Excersice, drink water, take care of yourself and let the bad feelings pass because they do pass.
Every time I try to make my comment shorter I end up going on and on, I guess it’s because I feel as though someone Finally understands,and I feel the relief,and there I go I’ll stop here,Thanks 🤗🤗🙏🏼🌈👏🏽.
I understand. We all need someone to express ourselves to. Be well and consider a video or written journal. Better out than in :) Be well.
Thanks again Dr Fox, I’m on it 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🌈
Thank you for this very educational video. I have been diagnosed with Bipolar 2 and Borderline Personality Disorder. When you mentioned hospitalization, I wondered if a lot of other Borderline pd sufferers like hospital stays. I feel more safe in the hospital than anywhere on Earth. I have tried to keep my visits to a minimum because of this. I think part of it is the routine, which I have never had or been able to create. Even during my career and raising my son. I enjoy all of your videos and very much appreciate any advocate for those of us with these specific mental health issues. ✌️💙
I get this SO much..getting a tattoo that says "BALANCE "❤
This man is incredible. I used this information to advocate for my bpd husband who was diagnosed as bipolar. Thank you Dr Fox 🙏
YOU are incredible for advocating for him ❤️
@@healingIRT 😊
OMG yes, I will get intense overwhelming feeling of fear/guilt/anger/confusion for 20-60 minutes and it 's so intense that it knocks me into a state of catatonia for an hour or two. I am conscious but very slow breathing, can't open my eyes and can barely move.
Does it last for days or weeks?
I go through both. Sometimes it's hours, and sometimes it's off and on through out days or a week or at least 3 or 4 days I was triggered today. I went from slightly irritated to pissed to crying to flipping out took an hour to calm down I go a dat or 2 without sleep. I was diagnosed with depression many years ago
He comes across as such a caring man with a huge understanding of his subject. Thank you.
I am diagnosed as both from two different doctors as I do have traits from both disorders.... But I have Bipolar II. Which
all ranges of mental disorders runs on my mothers side (Skitzo, Bipolar I, II, OCD, ETc. ) I believe my step had narcissist personality disorder or borderline personality disorder or both, and I developed BPD in addition to hereditary Bipolar by being raised by him. Has took a lot of time to get to where I am now...at some points an absolute living hell. No other way to describe it. I find I can not tolerate a lot of medication, due to allergies and sensitivities so that has made things difficult. I had to change states and one doctor told me I can't be bipolar and not be on medication which I think if your in a full blown mania event as I have seen my mother and grandmother go into you certainly can come out of it at some point, just most people get help and come out of it faster... Medication for me seems to make me have more suicidal thoughts and other thoughts I shouldn't be having. Since I got off most of the medication and focused on meditation and DBT, I have less of those intense thoughts but I still have chronic suicidal ideation, and depression although the presence is there is not a an immediate in my face thought if you can understand that, its always there in the constant state in the back of my mind. It's good to find someone talking positively about this disorder as there are a lot of people who seem to want to demonize those with BPD, I have seen it in videos and on message boards it is quite awful even on videos such as educational ones you get people who basically tell us we are the worst people on the planet. So sometimes that is pretty depressing and can trigger some things that aren't nice. Thanks for video, this still confirms I have both disorders.
You are such a kind and loving person dr D
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You're so kind, Dr. Fox. Thank you for these videos and also, your understanding ♥
Very informative, exactly described my symptoms of BPD. I liked that you didn’t put us into that group of neediness and anger filled humans that should be avoided at all costs..
I'm so glad this video was helpful for you. I wish you well.
I have a problem with feeling like I made it all up in my head? I don’t know how to explain it because I identify with all of the criteria but I’ve been misdiagnosed and made fun of by mental health staff for trying to explain myself and it’s manifested into me feeling like a liar and making fun of myself a whole lot. I’m not sure if it’s possible to make a video on knowing which voice is talking if it’s clarity or just my mind being mean to me. It’s probably just my brain but I just never know if I’m valid or not. Just ordered your workbook and I’m very excited maybe that will help me a lot. BPD has ruined my life and my reputation but no one will listen.
If only the medical professionals Ive encountered have been willing to listen to me. 95% have felt they know everything and so I have to be my own advocate and move on to look for a doctor who has the ability to listen. I finally did find a fantastic general practitioner and she pretty much saved my life. I absolutely have bipolar and I am not ok without medication.
That’s so important to have learned. That’s terrific. Be well.
Thankyou, during the video I had intense emotions and crying - often my normal, to having a sense of hope at the end of your video when you said these are treatable. I definitely have no sense of balance, I originally had a diagnosis of Bipolar for over 12 years and then I started seeing Dr Adrian Ashton from CBT Professionals on the Gold Coast QLD Australia, and within 2 sessions he said this is classic BPD and my treatment changed and Im responding well. I am now 46 and my troubles with unintentional rejection started from a very young age, I was the youngest of nine children. For me it is about the Interpersonal and social rhythm therapy to try and stabilse my emotions. Thankyou for your videos they are very helpful. Regards Linda
Psychiatrists in my town are all on the Bipolar wagon. Everybody and their dog. It's absurd.
Diagnosis du jour, especially in court.
Hey dr fox, i would be very interested in a video comparing self harming in different disorders. People with borderline do self harm so do some with depression, bipolar or npd, but do they all do for the same reasons? If not pls make a video adressing the topic:)
+Liz Gdoifn great idea. Thanks. I’ll do it.
Npd I never heard of. I know I have compulsive issues. And alot of the symptoms of both these, but never heard of that. I would like to see a video on this.
Not everyone selfharm
@@RAVENMoonTarot Hi Raven, NPD stands for Narcissistic Personality Disorder. These people lack empathy for others,they have a grandiose sense of self, they're extremely manipulative, mentally and sometimes physically abusive to their significant other/spouse. They tend to project their own insecurities/issues onto you as if you're the one who is the problem and that no one likes. At first they come off as very charismatic and love bomb you for about year, studying your weaknesses,strengths and whatever personal secrets you share with them are used as fuel to throw back in your face later in the relationship as a tactic to make you feel low about yourself. This term is called,"Gaslighting ". Unfortunately there are no medicines to treat this disorder and they typically dont go to therapy bc in their head, they think nothing is wrong with them. There are different types called,"cluster B's" with some being worse than others which are your,"Covert Narcs,Overt Narcs,Somatic Narcs,Cerebral Narcs and Malignant Narcs. " The Overt narcs are easily to spot within talking to for 5 min. Think of someone talking about themselves a lot on a first date, then saying,"Enough about me, let me hear you speak more about me." That's an Overt Narc.. very egotistical. It's the damn Covert ones that are the most Vindictive bc they put on a facade/ wear fake mask to be a great person in your eyes, and once they know you've fallen in love with them, they take off that fake mask and reveal their true selves! So basically, the person you fell in love with was just an illusion ,not their true self! These individuals are emotional vampire's bc their drug of choice is you...its their high. Narcicissim has become a damn epidemic. So I encourage you to educate yourself on these vultures by watching you tube videos on here. So you'll know all the red flags. Hope my comment helped.😉
@@belle3055 I don't cut or burn, i've had enough pain from being beaten. I just want the pain to be gone, so I find other ways to numb, to me no matter how bad being empty feels, it's better than being in pain.
I feel like I finally understand the differences between these 2 so much better now. Great explanations using simple language and terms. Thanks for breaking it all down. 🙏🏼
I tend to withdraw during depression and exposed when maniac and hypomaniac with triggers or without it
Thank you so much for your videos this one really help me that I’m watching now and I hope it helps my sister. I think she has both bipolar and BPD she’s been diagnosed with bipolar. But she has abandonment issues like I do because I’ve been diagnosed with BPD. And I sent it to her and I hope she watches it and I hope it helps herTo get the help she needs thank you very much!
Sleep hygiene and dream work, please!
The Mayo Clinic says you can have both. You can have anger, panic attacks, anxiety, racing thoughts as well as identity issues and suicidal thoughts based off of not being able to handle a traumatic event.
Bipolar 1 involves psychosis lasting weeks to months. They have similarities but are not identical otherwise what would be the point of having two names for the same thing??!!
Hello I just wanted to say your videos are really great and have helped me out a lot in terms of understanding my BPD I was diagnosed 2 years ago with severe manic Bipolar disorder and Borderline personality disorder and the information in your videos makes a bit simpler to understand what's going on. Thank you
just one general note: i like the other background more. usually darker is better, but at least for me it seems to noise visually (lack of words).
No one ever said I have either condition ( maybe something else) but I can relate to some BPD symptoms. I don’t understand what fear of abandonment attribute means to someone who already feels abandoned - no friends, no loves. Some people have this or that illness then ...the insurance runs out and they’re well.
BPD and Bipolar really do present themselves similarly... but the way the symptoms are experienced, when and how are what help.
The way I can say in my way is.... BPD is triggered and shorter lasting episodes.... Bipolar episodes are out of no where and is continuous for days to a weeks.
And yes I have severe anxieties thats cause restless sleep and itchy energy during the day at times, but Im always worrying or being triggered... they are nothing like a hypomanic episode, the thoughts and the way my body and brain behaves is completely different. Severe anxiety can look hypomanic, but I will still feel tired and sometimes nap... I will NOT feel tired or need much rest for DAYS and the thought process is completely different in hypomanic state.
PDD, Anxieties and Borderline are 24\7... Bipolar for me is a couple times a year maybe.
I have PDD and Borderline Personality Disorder......... and fucking Bipolar 2.
It took forever for me to explain that they dont feel the same when and how they happen to me.... and then it finally all made sense once the Bipolar 2 fit in there. (was hard because I have random psychosis too and its not the Bipolar that does it... its the fucking Borderline, I stared to understand how similar they can present to diagnose, but I can express how and when things happen enough to differentiate them).
I kept saying I always been low mood and depressed since i was young... and then if something happened i would 0-100 go triggered severely depressed for hours to a day or so. then back to regular depressed...... then Id have out of no where severe depression for like a week or so and then back to blah.
They thought double depression.... then I had a hypomanic episode infront of my therapist after spending months describing these random episodes I get out of the blue and they were hypomanic agitations of euphoric and severe irritability.
So I have PDD, BPD and Bipolar 2.
If I didnt have the insane insight that I do... I dont think id of been diagnosed that fast.
I also have shitty anxiety disorders that eat me alive OCD, C-PTSD, GAD, Social, and now I developed Panic after my last concussion.
I just love ya and all your outreach to these mental health issues, needed! And truths, not hurting like my personal experience with 4 therapists. My advice to others, don't give up looking for a sound therapist and person, life gets better, and storms make us wiser and stronger, which we just have to do, and go into, to come out better people. Gold Star for Dr. Fox!
I just absolutely love this guy!!! In my small town I swear every therapist screams bipolar. I told my court ordered therapist I was diagnosed with Borderline and he seriously said “what is that?” and then tried to change it to bipolar. But I really didn’t agree with it. Even though diagnoses can be scary it is also a aha moment to understanding yourself. I felt that with Borderline but bipolar I felt that I didn’t fall into that. And I do understand you can have both but here in my small town bipolar and ADHD is like the only 2 things ppl get diagnosed with and thrown pills it’s really sad. That’s why I love UA-cam and Dr.Fox cuz now ppl can understand there are so many more diagnoses out there and even though he clearly says he isn’t diagnosing anyone but if you feel like he is describing you now you can go out and ask proper questions to ur healthcare and not settle with a misdiagnosis
Thank you so much for your kind words. I wish you well.
I feel like I have bpd, I’m diagnosed with bipolar 1 , but my episodes can last hours or days or weeks
I am someone who fell in love with a borderline woman were engaged and then broke up. I’d like to see a video focused on how a loved one of a borderline can recover from such a breakup. The pain was just as if not more intense than the relationship was.
Dr. Danile Fox thank you very much for your genuine and very informative video. Fantastic point on the "guilt and shame" that mostly BPD suffer compare to BD.
Possibly also fear of abandonment, is more commune in BPD than BD, but I am not a psychologist and don't know the statistics.
Thank you so much for your kind words! I'm glad you found the video informative and resonated with the points I made about guilt and shame in BPD. It's important to shed light on these topics and create awareness.
My wasband, dually diagnosed, used to eat therapists for lunch.
He'd laugh on his way home about how he had them wrapped around his finger.
He merely used the experience to study how to be emotionally appealing. How to manipulate people better by being able to appear deep and sensitive.
He also used the experience against me. Convincing the therapist that I didn't appreciate this caring man. A therapist, in particular, refused to believe I was in danger when I told her he had tried to kill me.
She literally laughed in our joint session with my then husband. (Even though I hadn't given permission to talk about it. ) "Did you do those things? "
"Do I look like the kind of person who would do those things? "
"No."
She was a highly regarded, certified therapist who had been targeted by this disordered man.
Many experts believe therapy isn't helpful for Cluster B PDs because it often makes the ability to manipulate worse.
That’s true for antisocial PD.
What if a family member (my niece) sets your back porch on fire three times, floods the house with all faucets on in sinks and bathtubs, calls the police when you are sleeping stating that you are suicidal when you're not just to try to get you in trouble, lies to all the neighbors about who you really are, and more horrible things? I had to ask this family member (my niece) to leave and I cannot and will not live under conditions of not knowing what kind of danger that I might experience in the future.
Hi Dr. Fox,
your videos have helped me tremendously and continue to do so. I recently noticed a pattern in my BPD symptoms, and that is that when im PMSing, it gets really bad and thats when i tend to have my episodes. have you heard of others having the same experience? since finding this pattern i can prepare for it and almost expect it and it has helped my BPD a lot as its more manageable when i can predict it coming. id love to hear others experiences too and if anyone here can relate.
thanks!
Here is an article. Knowing this is building insight which can help you plan management strategies. www.psychiatryadvisor.com/personality-disorders/perimenstrual-symptom-exacerbation-observed-in-borderline-personality-disorder/article/775278/
I can totally relate!
The saddest part is I believe I have both but I have Medicaid so I will never see a good doctor
Same well I have mass health but above all just know you can rise above it. Support is a big one. 💜
Hello Dr Fox. Thank you so much for your videos! They ate extremely insightful and help to clear up alot of questions that i have had (and others as well) about BPD.
It would be great to see more videos about Bipolar Disorder. My little sister has been diagnosed with it and i am trying to understand it better.
Again, thank you!
This guy is spot on.
I think i have both, but my doctor thinks diagnosis might be hurtful and make me feel hopeless so the most he'll say is i have emotionally intensity. I haven't straight up asked him, what do i have? Cause it makes me nervous idk why, ive been seeing him weekly for 5 months. Anyways this is my theory. I think have bipolar disorder 2 genetically, based on family history and based on my own experiences, documentation, and reaearch. I also think I have BPD but that is based on my environment as i developed at a child. Im thinking about asking to be prescribed lamictal as i have seen so many say it helps them, but i said at the beginning i didnt want to rely on medicine so he hasnt brought it up
Lets talk about pcos,there is a very high percentage of pcos sufferers with bpd,bp
It's important to raise awareness about the connections between PCOS and other conditions. Thank you for bringing this up! I have a video on this.
I'm going to continue playing piano after the covid-19 because ever since I was 15 and heard my favorite solo singer and piano player I wanted a piano. My grandma wanted to buy my sister and I a piano bought my parents said no cuz they couldn't afford it which I understand. But now I have a piano and I'm playing with him I'm getting to know him everyday. You're wondering why I call him a him it's because I named him after my favorite piano player and favorite solo singer so that's why I gave him a beautiful name because it's a beautiful piano to just like me beautiful favorite solo singer and piano player men!
Guilt and shame is my trigger
But cptsd can get triggered too. How do you tell between bpd and cptsd?
They say bpd is cptsd. Like they’re interchangeable
Before i say all sorts of wonderful things about this video-which it totally merits-i have to beg you to get a different background and different shirt. Remember you’re dealing with people who may be depressed anyway. Aside from the visuals, I advocate cloning you. A lot of us would flock to a therapist who balanced wisdom, compassion, skill, and dedication.
Dr. Fox, what about the "caffeine" hangover the next day from going over about 50-60 mg per day. IE if I do about 150mg of caffeine, my Borderline symptom of abandonment fear, not good enough seems to totally spike out of control on next day hangover.
thats super interesting and awesome you found that pattern! i will watch closer how i react to caffeine.
You are absolutely on o something. Caffeine, although I'm drinking some now, can spike up many symptoms of many illnesses. Try to balance decaf (an ugly word but important) and half-caf throughout your day. Also, caffeine is in more than just coffee. Great question!! Here's an article: www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/20164571
Interesting thought
Thanks Dr. Fox. You make it very understandable.
Since i was 15 ( I am 28) i was diagnosed with manic depression. The last time I went to go try and get help again I was diagnosed with manic depression, anxiety, and BPD. I don't understand how you can be both legally psychotic and borderline psychotic?
Please do a video on Cyclothymia! Love your work.
Thank you, Dr. Fox, for this video and all of the work that you are doing. Comment re the backdrop: it looks alright, but it might be a bit boring to use on a regular basis for longer videos. It's nice to have something for the eyes to wander during videos, but you don't want it to be too distracting... Kati Morton (to name one example) just has stuff behind her and that can work very well. How about something like a corner with a comfy chair and a bookcase and art? Or maybe that is too cliché... The diplomas were nice to show your qualifications, but having something more or different is good. How about getting input from a professional for this kind of thing, like working with someone to come up with a few "corners" for videos? Just feedback and brainstorming.
+Caroline Kowalska thanks. Great feedback.
+Caroline Kowalska thank you for the feedback.
The visual doesn’t match his humane persona. A human room…a human’s chair…a human’s plant and some non disturbing art, a real person’s rug…
I am glad, i have 'only' BPD. But I have friends with both and can imagine it as an extra trouble. At least i got depression and that kinda like half of it. So i can go the extra mile in my head to conclude how terrible that must be, but also how obvious the connections are.
But it still wonders me that both get confused with each other.
on another note: I don't know how much insigth u have there or if there is any data about it... but it would interest me how BPD affects us Autists differently than Allists (non-autists)
You are helping me so much with all of your videos! Thank you!
Im definitely bipolar type 2 and bpd... I hate being me... Meds never work... I ruin everyone..
I have episodes of 3 days at a time, but not in order. Once a week, maybe two. I have gone 5 days of sleep and then 5 days of awake without drugs or alcohol. I was tired for long, I felt I had the energy for days at end
Hi Dr. Fox, I'm curious as to why you didn't mention DBT as a therapy for these disorders.
Reaction for 4 hours in borderline while bipolar have episodic mood for 3days and more
Mine mild ocd,mild histrionic,quiet bdp and bipolar affective disorder. What's quiet bpd can you explained it
I have been diagnosed with both bipolar disorder and borderline personality disorder
Yes please please please do a sleep hygiene video. Also best treatment plan for borderline personality disorder. 😊
Very clear video, thank you. What is the contrast between impulse control disorder and ADHD/ADD?
+Currently it’s on my
List of future topics. Thanks
@@DrDanielFox Thanks for replying, I'll make sure I keep notified for that one! Cheers
I have BPD, PTSD, Generalized anxiety disorder and apparently bi polar II. My question is if you can explain why I have other identities within me. They are as real to me as a person standing in front of me. I completed DBT, you however have explained to me more than a year of treatment. But I have been told they are all me. Who is the real me?
I am recently diagnosed with BPD and bi polar disorder, although I believe the BPD is more accurately me. All I ever want to do is sleep. Just to escape the madness. I often describe myself as exhausted. Between my emotions and my mental extremes, and faking being all put together everyday, I literally just want to not think. Not feel. But even while sleeping, I hear myself thinking. It's terrible... exhausting...
Is this common in patients you see?
Very common. Try yoga, mindfulness, or there are so really good VR meditation practices you could try. Find a place to shut it off and allow yourself moments of peace. Start small and build. An expectation of an hour, or even a half, may be too much for you. Work up to it. I wish you all the best.
Dr. Fox, can you please suggest something for me to read or explain a little here about Florid Borderline Recation and what that looks like? You talk a lot about maniv episodes and what those look like but not much about the others. I am trying to understand this concept and how it applies to me.
Thank you, as always, you are a treasure.
Amanda
Watch Fatal Attraction; this is not a glib comment but a good example. When he rejects her, she becomes florid externally and internally.
When someone says they will never have Love in their life again, what if they really mean they will never let themselves be vulnerable to allow that to happen?
Then that’s what they mean
The more I learn about my mental illnesses the more I understand why my family hates me I feel like a monster I destroy everyone and everything I love. I did not ask for this and I would not wish this on anyone. I've only started learning about what was wrong with me when I was 38 I'm 41 now.
Hey Dr Fox could you make a video describing what characteristics you would look for in a patient before diagnosing one with both Bpd and Bipolar.
How do you keep track of it I know this is something I'm going to have to work very hard at to do and it's the best suggestion is something my talk therapist said as well journaling is so important especially with these conditions it's very much have to focus on trying to focus to be able to keep up with writing down all the things that go on I do realize how important it is this video like many of your others have helped me very much I appreciate that very much and thank you for the reminder to work even harder at journaling all the work you do is a huge blessing and very much appreciated
I'm glad to hear that my video resonated with you! Journaling can be a powerful tool for self-reflection and tracking progress. Keep at it, and don’t hesitate to reach out if you have any questions!
@@DrDanielFox thank you so much for replying to my comment it absolutely made my day! You've been such an inspiration an amazing guidance and helping me to understand my own Mental Health conditions and the steps I can take to help myself you are appreciated I honestly can't stop thinking about the video on the extremes of BPD thinking all good or all bad and your example of staying in the gray to do with your client having liked chocolate and the example of how most folks would not like chocolate-covered grasshoppers, it's such a simple way of putting it but it resonates with me so much and it's an easy thing for my mind to go back to I've been catching myself and doing my best not to speak in extreme words like always never forever even if in the moment I believe it will be that I've learned to say and believe things such as for the foreseeable future, unless things significantly change for the better I do feel better about those energies then the extremes none of us can actually stay in those extremes nor should we what you do is phenomenal and absolutely appreciated!
Great video. Well explained & glad to hear that these two issues can co-exist as my diagnosis was BPD with bipolar features. I do not however have abandonment issues. I'm confused. Can I have a BPD diagnosis without this?
Sure, you do not have to have abandonment issues. Core content is different for everyone with the disorder and those who have traits.
Thank you. Very interesting. I have NO impulse control issues. And yet a Borderline diagnosis was put on my file without anyone telling me. I am quite sure that I have Bipolar, though it is Bipolar II.
His words are so true.. Im very sick with bpd plus ptsd plus schizoaffective
Having that rhythm video
It’s a lot to manage. I wish you well and don’t give up hope.
Hello thanks for your words I just wanted to ask you I am a person who is diagnosed with bipolar one around the age of 30 and now I'm 60 and just getting an additional diagnosis of borderline and I guess the thing I'm wanting to ask is how is it possible for me to get my family to acknowledge that I have these no matter what I have done or has happened in my life all these years. My family has never acknowledge these disorders as having any responsibility or partial calls or anything in what has happened they treat me as a person just like any other, and I catch all the blame for anything that might occur without any consideration for the struggles that I'm going through the horrible pain that I'm in that might be affecting my actions. I don't know how to get these people to see this in my life and to understand me and that I'm not choosing to do things that might affect us please help, Danielle
How about the difference between bipolar II and BPD?
And … would long term psychodynamic psychotherapy be helpful for bpd and bipolar?
Im pretty sure i have both. Im very confused, and i wish i knew exactly what is wrong with me. Im afraid that i have been misdiagnosed because at the time i got diagnosed i had just come out of a decade long mentally torturing relationship, and i was showing alot of signs of emotional disconnect, and i diden't feel anything for anyone, showing alot of anti-social thoughts and behaviour. I am diagnosed with mixed personality disorder with multible disorders together (borderline, Anti-social, depressive)... But now that 1.5 year has passed, i have been experiencing alot of my real issues. Im having these highs and very lows, which to me seems like type 2 bipolar because i can't quite figure out if i am experiencing hypomania or not, this summer i was riding a wave, a somewhat nervous state, and now im at a low, but i still can't feel my baseline mood, it's not stable at all, even though im on medication (Lamotrigin, and Seroquel). Especially the Lamotrigin helped me in the beginning, and the seroquel has helped me sleep alot better, so it's good. BUT i have trouble ALL the time and im never really okay and stable, which could maybe seem like i have both at the same time, it's confusing... Any thoughts?
If medication (Abilify) controls mood extremes does that mean you were misdiagnosed with BPD?…l have severe loss of abandonment and hit all 9 BPD criteria as l read them. My moods are related to human relationships and one nice word and l am happy…but probably always low key suicidal. DBT alone wasn’t working due to extreme fight flight. My new doc has diagnosed bipolar alone… My medical record shows rage/depression starting age 5 (yes major life trauma) and over medicated me for ADHD until l became severely suicidal… Would comorbid bipolar and cPTSD mimic BPD? Can you describe what comorbid disorders look like more? BP/BPD vs BP/cPTSD…
Thank you Dr. Fox.
I'm diagnosed Bipolar II adhd and BPD also OCD tendencies which I'm pretty sure is now full blown OCD. As it affects my life worse than anything else now. I'm so confused. I'm not sure how I can have all of them. Sometimes I feel so paranoid too like if I say things they will happen. Or that I predict things/ that things are a sign... Which doesn't seem to fit any. But then I wonder if it is genuinely a gift as I have successfully predicted deaths. Including Bowie.
So so confused. It'd help if I could get the right help. The waiting lists here are ridiculous. And my CPN discharged me for being too complex.
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That bruh moment when you fit the criteria for both.
I also fit the criteria for CPTSD.
Either way, I've had hypomanic episodes for years with no trigger needed followed by either euthymic mood or depressive episodes. But I also present all of the interpersonal issues and triggers of Borderline- but at the same time I interpret it as emotional flashbacks from the CPTSD (at least in my case I think both BPD and complex trauma go hand in hand). The only dx I have is Major depression given to me at 14, and then I took Zoloft and ended up having a manic episode. I was basically hypomanic the entire time I was on it until the last months I took it, where it stopped working. I haven't had any other medication since.
Usually I have reocurrent depressive episodes, that's for sure. During my seemingly hypomanic episodes in other hand I feel happy, elevated, motivated, I start projects, I clean, I become extremely talkative and binge watch videos for days on end, I have pressured speech, my thoughts race. I feel no need for sleep but my body cannot really take it so I sleep for four hours then spring back up energized. The last one was a month ago- it lasted for seven days. Then I crashed. Am having a depressive episode right now and I'm suicidal. I know I need help ... I just can't get it. It really sucks.
Im so sorry you're going through such a rough time. Hope you will be able to find a support system and outlast your trials. Much love and respect, take care and stay safe!
Why can’t you get help
I have comorbid bipolar and borderline personality disorder. It can be really difficult separating the two at times. I am in therapy and in the process of changing medication for my bipolar. In changing my meds it seems like a lot of my bpd symptoms have heightened too.
I have both also. I take nothing for BPD but lithium for Bipolar and it has been a Godsend xx
They aren’t listening to me. Please help me. How do I get them to listen to me? Ppl are not listening to me, and then telling me they are not sure what is going on with me but that at that same time I need to take meds. I also resonate A LOT with things I have read seen about Autism. And so far any meds I have bad reactions to (6 diff including lithium) and was recently told i have a sensory processing disorder and hypersensitivity. I am fine, but then wil be triggered by something interpersonal. [and have a history of childhood abuse for 19 yrs and my abuser just passed away and i have cptsd]. I can and will and do have multiple episodes per DAY. As many as 12 up/down combos in one day. It has happened. A lot lately.
I will get an energy high - I only smoke weed and sometimes have a few drinks but I do not use alcohol to medicate bc my mom is an alcoholic, I mainly use weed - and I cannot sleep. I will get very tired [I have depression so I get tired anyways] and then try to sleep but wake up in an hour or two or three at the most and then be super wired and usually really anxious paranoid and judge mental/ like ready to argue. I usually have meltdowns bc im so uncomfortable physically at this time; itchy too hot then too cold things hurt noises are too loud and i will scream and cry and then get a super burst of impulsive energy. It’s short lived and i get so unmotivated and depressed. Usually i get my things together and get dressed to go t the hospital - today i was walking to dunkin to get an Uber there n then i just got so depressed and scared and unmotivated and paranoid - I DO NOT want bipolar meds again yet they keep pushing - and I get depressed. Go home. Finally fall asleep tho today I’m still waiting its been like 5 hrs. Just watching UA-cam trying to be ok..... i cant go into the hospital when i dont feel safe there..... i dont feel safe anywhere. What do i do? They wont listen... i want an autism test and a real eval before i eat any pills again they really really mess up my body and mind for a long time i am very sensitive to everything.
Sometimes a trigger can last me for about 4 days.. I've always assumed it was pms coming but lately I'm noticing its not adding up. My dad has bipolar type 1 ......i know better when I get in these moods but I just cannot shake it sometimes. 🤔
I feel like some bpd symptoms have definitely lessened with age because although I fear abandonment , I also understand that people will always come and go, its life but there's usually someone just as cool around the corner. I've also stopped self harming.
a big struggle of mine is chronic emptiness and loneliness with a touch of agoraphobia .
Knowledge is power
So true.
Am diagnosed with bipolar and Cptsd which I believe has some overlapping symptoms with bpd so I find this Dr. very interesting and helpful.
Thank you so much for your kind words. I wish you well.
BPD comes out of CPTSD
Greetings from Sweden 🇸🇪🌞 Thank you, Dr. Fox, for doing these teachings. They really are good and helpful. I would really much like to hear about sleep hygiene.
I have videos on sleep you may find helpful. Be well
i was diagnosed with BPD tendencies and bipolar II disorder but don't really have the financial means to treat either...so have been binge watching your videos to try to help myself hopefully. It sucks because sometimes I can't distinguish whats real and whats perceived and constantly go back and forth between the two. Is there a way to identify when I am perceiving and overthinking things?
+Victoria Jeon There are many good workbooks out there and they can help you build the skills you need to manage your symptoms and assess what is going on around you. Here’s the link to one that I like a lot www.newharbinger.com/dialectical-behavior-therapy-skills-workbook
I don't know if I have borderline personality disorder or not but most of the time I feel I have both condition.
Me and my psychiatrist are very confused, because i know that my mood changes slow, from days to weeks to even months but also there are triggers for that episodic mood. So, what am i? and i have ptsd too.
Yes!! Do a video on sleep hygiene.