I honestly wish there were more mental health professionals like you that were accessable! The ones in my county and surrounding counties lack empathy. They don't seem to care much or want to actually listen & take into account what their patients have to say. It seems impossible to find a decent mental health doctor for me so your UA-cam videos help me so much more than you know!! Thank you so much for all you do.
It's really a shame. I also very much believe that Mental health disorders cause so many physical symptoms/illnesses. Family doctors & specialists need to start working hand in hand with mental health professionals. It shouldn't be separate. It's all linked. Physical issues can cause mental health problems and mental health problems can cause physical issues. It also needs to be talked about way more.... Even the mental illnesses that are "bad" or that make ppl "uncomfortable" need to be talked about more openly. My family & many others seems to think you should just be able to simply "get over it" and "change your way of thinking". I wish it were that easy..........
The only thing in the UK is to go private, I have done this and cost a lot of money and still not satisfactory, but at least you get to see a psychiatrist at over £ 100, it's just not good enough.
The biggest distinction is that Bipolar is a Mood Disorder & Borderline is a Personality Disorder. I'm one of the 10% and personally, I feel, BPD occurs at a more conscious level in so much as, it affects me less when I avoid my triggers, whereas, my Bipolar breakdowns were triggered biologically ie: pregnancy, stopping medication. I don't take meds for Borderline, I just avoid what triggers me ie: intimate relationships. Of course, it's not the same for everyone, this is my experience over 30+ years.
I am 29 years old and I was diagnosed with borderline when I was 24. I agree with this diagnosis as it is abundantly clear I have BPD. I showed my first symptoms at just 8 years old. That was the first time I formulated a plan to “off” myself. My childhood had some really bad stuff in it and that’s what caused the BPD, along with the fact that my mother clearly has it too from her own adverse childhood experiences. I know it’s not preferred to diagnose mental health conditions before age 18, but I really do think I suffered from BPD even as a child.
Oh my, this was A LOT to process. I can only imagine how difficult this must be to manage internally if you have BOTH. I've already listened twice, I think I'm going to have to listen to this a 3rd time. Heartbreaking what so many people have to go through. So unfair...
It is a very challenging process, but not impossible. In my opinion, I think that it is worth the difficult process for the reward of managing and controlling your life. I wish you all the best.
I had a LPC dx me with BPD even though I had been dx'ed with bipolar many years ago. I was taken off my meds and after 1 year I checked myself into a psych hospital. So thankful for the meds.
hey doctor fox, you are indeed a heaven-sent. i've gone through five psychiatrists already (1 from utah, 4 from the philippines) all of them didn't look through my history enough to distinguish that I am not bipolar I but instead have a bipolar II disorder, not only that after i watched your video i am definitely sure i am bpd. thank you for this. now, i will have to contact a competent psychiatrist and make sure to re-diagnose me but this time i am hoping they'll be so sure. no wonder medications didn't work for me.
I was diagnosed with bipolar 2, however I always thought I had BDP which is a label I don't mind having, I talked about it with my therapist and psychiatrist, they said I didn't have BPD, I thought they were being condescendant, however now I'm certain I'm just 100% bipolar 2 with codependency issues. There's some online pop psychology content that tends to oversimplify diagnosis, beware of diagnosing yourselves people.
@@soozshooz mostly relationship related: fear of abandonment, poor communication skills, Valuing the approval of my partners more than valuing myself. The pandemic was a huge trigger because my ex partner was really afraid of the virus so he wouldn't let me out, that was making me insane and depressed, also spending 100% time online, I was isolated. Now I'm feeling better.
I was recently diagnosed with anxiety disorder, panic disorder, cptsd , bipolar 2 with BPD traits. Talk about a real head scratcher , and how treatment for one may clash with the other and it’s just insane.
Re: Blaming your spouse for "not letting you out" being online etc during the pandemic. This is honest objective feedback not meant to dismiss your feelings or experience but because we have a tendency to not self reflect properly at times or reassign blame on others as the 100% cause of how we behave, our actions and how we feel sometimes to avoid accountability, responsibility or not actually look inside to see the real cause because it's a defense mechanism.... during the pandemic it effected EVERYONE in different ways and dismissing your partners fears about going out especially in hindsight because many of us didn't fear, many were very fearful, many like myself had no idea what to think but regardless the world was completely and unexpectedly changed and guess what there was not much else to do but be online to connect to the world when we needed connection more than ever. Certainly it was unhealthy but we all cope differently but what you describing what your partner did is how the vast majority of us did and we may have done it differently with what we know now but to hold that over their head is not fair or justified. I have a hard time believing they simply didn't let you outside as if you were chained but surely people didn't want their love ones getting sick or putting others at risk, again at a point during pandemic nobody truthfully knew and anyone that says "I knew it the whole time" is delusional unless you were a scientist working on the projects directly or if you believe in conspiracy theories than unless you were in on it you didn't know. There were also states like mine that made it law restricting people to stay home and nobody liked that and again in hindsight probably unnecessary but to live with someone who disregards that during a time of uncertainty would probably share their opinion and feelings about it and instead of saying you understand or have a discussion about it and find a place to agree if that was even possible it's an unprecedented moment in history - you solely blame them for your stress, depression, actions (going out or not) and claim now you're better. Ok well we're all better since the pandemic and by the way I just got corona for first time 4 weeks ago and found myself in the hospital and it no joke and realized with humility that I was an idiot to dismiss this as a flu, I literally thought I was dying but let's not make it about me shall we so I was saying we're all better since then for most part but most of the world felt trapped or depressed or anxious or scared or worried or angry or confused and that's not because the people we were with that's the way the whole world felt. If you are blaming them then you are temporarily better because you aren't taking responsibility or understanding the real root for your reactions feelings or health you have assigned that to something or someone else because that is easier and avoid the guilt and shame we unfairly assign ourselves wnen we realize the real problem was ourselves and condition which isn't our fault but it is our responsibility to understand, manage and navigate and that's impossible if we're still blaming others. h@@anareginacoronado1147
@@AmirBasri-e3n he was not my spouse, but ex boyfrienfd. Now we are great friends but yes, our tendency to approach things differently was what set us appart. I respected covid and got the vaccine but by 2022 we all had to learn to live with it and by that point I had already been sick from it twice. We had a Last fight in Jan 2022 because I lied about going to a yoga class in an open space, it was actually in a closed room and he got mad because this wasnt covid friendly. That was the Last fight we had. It was not the fact that he didn't let me out, but if it was not under his terms we would fight. I lost connection with all my friends cuz they didn't care about the virus. I take my responssbility about being angry and I had jelousy issues too that contributed significantly to the toxiciy, definitely don't blame him for all, but in the end, we Just had different approaches in life. I hope you are feeling better from covid. Stay safe.
Thank you for explaining the overlaps and differences in such a concise and clear way. It's not only truly fascinating but also very helpful with having loved ones and peers who are affected. I actually started training and working (for a few hours for starters) as a peer support worker. Your videos inspired me to learn more, find out more about bpd and borderline and look into resources for myself and my cptsd. Your videos are so interesting and my curiosity took me even farther so that now I am beginning a new career at age 58, not having worked in years. I found new friends, new solutions and a whole community.
Thank you so much for your content. I wish there were more licensed professionals that were as helpful as you. I battle with Bipolar two, BPD, severe anxiety disorder, PTSD, and others. It's difficult for people to understand, and there is a stigma against people like me. It's unfair!
Moderate borderline with intense specific social anxiety handling delicate tea or coffee cups in front of others. My SA is so specific and tea obsessive that I am totally opposite in rest of the social situations. So as an extrovert and a social butterfly it is extremely painful for me to miss out on whole things out of the nonsensical fret of possibly having to handle those stupid tea cups. My ridiculous mind will inevitably make me shake my hands when lifting to sip the drink, then I freeze, get stiff, shakes transfer to neck, head, legs, then voice, then blush, in short I invite all the attention to the point where I force people to look away. Then I feel awful for weeks. This whole thing is the exact example of making mountain out of molehill, cooking it all in the head. What helps Coping methods and experience of 20 years with the condition 1. Get rid of all drugs, smoking, alcohol 2. When entering shop, don't leave, fight 3. Start is important, you enter confidently, head high, slowly and breathing deep and calm, make eye contacts, act confidently 4. Begin going alone, as BPD have susceptiblity to interference, you may loose focus, calmness by getting distracted 5. When you sit don't look down or pretend to use cellphone, look up, forward, to the ceiling, pay attention to attractive things 6.what to think Your condition is not your fault, you didn't even come to life on your own. You didn't choose your environment or genes or both This reduces entire mental baggage and self expectation. It's OK to shake a lil, then deliberate the shake a lil, you will realise not being perfectly steady or lil bodily movements are not embarrassing at all, it is all in the head. With age you will also realise control panel is the anxiety inside not the exhibition outside, you have to control and calm the mind. Don't fall into the mistake of fighting shakes or blushes What really helps is to see things while comparing their size with your own size e.g if you struggle with handling small things, just make it a habit to sort of charge at them with a dominant body language telling yourself how comical it is to shy away from something so tiny and benign. You are a big boy/girl, you have large hands, it is so simple. Handle things with minimum effort, the more energy you put into it the messy it gets Facial expression is important, act confident and at ease. Don't frown or squint your eyes. Keep your lips together and act wise and calm. Remember we are all in the same side in the restaurant or on the table with the purpose to enjoy food, it is not a performance event. Get through first two minutes, half life of negative emotions is so short, that if you start well, as soon as the anxiety subsidies the natural instincts will take over and you will finish the drink in enjoyment. More power to BPDs and SAD sufferers 👍👍👍
Omg thank you so much for explaining this! Been struggling to see if I have BPD or bipolar because I see symptoms of both. But after you explaining this it makes sense
I'm overwhelmed by my suspicions that I have BPD. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder last year, and while medications are helping somewhat, I still feel all those feelings of emptiness, fear of abandonment, self-hatred / suicidal ideation, affective instability, unstable relationships, fear of abandonment / rejection, risky behaviors. I have periods of instability, but I can pinpoint specific triggers that precede these periods of instability. They're not really brought on by random occurrence. Anyways, I'm just frustrated. LOL
That really sounds more like BPD than bipolar. You could have both. I also think I have BPD. I have some bipolar symptoms but they don't last that long. I could have episodes that mimic hypomanic phases but they only last a few hours to 1-2 days. Depression lasts much longer. But I also have a ton of different emotions in one day. It's really distressing. I hope you can heal, it's hard but possible
My mom has both. It took forever to find the right combination of meds for the bipolar 1. Her bpd is still going strong. She never accepted she had bpd.
After a lot of tests, Doctors.. it's always bipolar but also a lot of bpd. The main symptoms and diagnosis is bipolar. It doesn't matter, both is horrible to live with. I love my hypomania it's better than depression. I go not Manic anymore because of the Lithium, this is really helpful and a great Medication! All other shit I didn't like I stopped Antidepressants they make sometimes everything worse! I so hope everyone is going to be well soon! Don't let tell you that it's not reversible, it's extremely hard true but possible! Much❤ from Germany
I’m so grateful for your videos as always ❤️ I always learn something here. I had no idea the rapid speech can be part of BPD. I thought that was one of the “presents” exclusively from bipolar lol. Being a borderpolar can be lame, but I can weather the internal storm with a little help from beautiful people giving out their knowledge for free on the internet. It’s allows me to help myself. ❤️
I was dianosed woth BPD and in fact had bipolar 1 reoccuring psychosis. Ive been watching all your videos, and I think BPD is an expiriment. I thought it in 2010 when they diagnosed me, and I think so now in my place of wellness. You might not see it, but I do. Marsha Linehan had no business practicing psychology with her history of schizophrenia. I live psychosis frequently. We come up with bizarre and crazy ideas.
That's interesting about the age of first symptoms. I have BPD and I thought at first that I first showed symptoms at age 17, when I first self harmed. But then looking back, I was lying, manuipulating, extremely emotionally volatile and unstable, before age 16. And THEN looking even further back, I developed my first "Favourite Person" (FP) feelings at age 15. And that person continued to be my FP until age 22, before which we were first best friends and then together in an intimate relationship. At age 15, I had a "crush" on her (which I didn't recognise as I didn't think I was gay and felt nothing sexual), and would explode at her, act strangely like throw leaves at her, one time I squashed a pear into the top of her head as I felt insulted and neglected by her. One time she said she might move away, and I got so distraught I had to sit in the toilet cubicle, crying, instead of going to class. Anyway...yeah. Age 15. BPD. Caused by CPTSD that came from trauma and chronic anxiety and fear starting at age 4. Bipolar...I have ALL the traits of "mixed episode Bipolar", but I don't have episodes. I'm ALWAYS like this. I'm ALWAYS depressed, and always irritable as a part of that. I'm not unstable or volatile APART from with a FP, if I have one. I only react extremely to them.
@@janettemartin4604 No, but my dad was an alcoholic from when I was 4 until 14, and was verbally abusive to my mum. I was constantly anxious but after age 7, I hid it and acted like I was fine, which is when my OCD started. I didn't even realise I had childhood trauma until 2 years ago!
@@ladybaabaa3294 it is all so abusive you poor beautiful STRONG darling! You have SO MUCH HOPE I think, you are being real with yourself! STAY STRONG! This is a sucky World when your parents are absent in any way!
@@janettemartin4604 Thank you! I hold no anger, blame or resentment towards my dad. He quit drinking cold turkey when I was 14 and I'll be 44 soon, so he hasn't had a drop of alcohol for 30 years and that's something to be proud of. My parents are still together, as when he wasn't drunk, he was a great husband and father. They're in their mid-70s now. My mum and I have always been very close, and she was a very stable and strong presence. My dad was more sort of fun, no real discipline, he'd spoil me and I think try to make up for the drinking, even though I didn't show that I hated it. He was only absent when he was drunk, even though he was still there. But he was different, so it scared me. Plus I was always scared he would hurt my mum (verbally mainly, but when I was younger, I worried about physically too, though that thankfully never happened), and I was always loyal to her in our stance that we hated him drinking, but at the same time, I was trying to still make sure my dad knew I loved him. I was also scared my dad would die from drinking, as his mum (my grandma) died when I was only 5 and he was only 34. She was an alcoholic and died from it. My dad's whole family were alcoholics (all who are still alive are sober now) and his childhood was HUGELY traumatic. He once woke up to his mum trying to smother him with a pillow. Yet when she wasn't drinking, she was a great mum. Before age 7, I would be very open about my displeasure when he'd be drunk. After a while, when nothing changed, it felt embarrassing to show negative emotions, as it felt like my needs were unable to be met, so I preferred not to show I even HAD any needs. I also didn't want my mum to be worried about me. And I didn't want my dad to feel bad. I had felt guilty for expressing my unhappiness with him before. So...yeah. My issue now is, I have constant fear, a sense of dread, impending doom, and that something bad will happen to my parents. I can't enjoy or deal with anything as I now have depression / anhedonia caused by this long term anxiety. I can't work, I don't shower regularly, I sleep most of the day, and I don't eat all day as I'm never hungry. Apart from that, between the ages of 17 and 22, almost all the members of my family that I really loved died. I remember feeling numb and that it was a relief to not have many people left that I would be devastated if they died. Which is kinda sad.
Listening to you talk about the idealization and devaluation of partners really makes me realize how terrible I have been. I don't devalue him in the way people think, but I do devalue his love for me when he acts "different" and I see now that that is what this is. I am exhausting. I don't wanna live like this. I've been in therapy/on and off meds since I was about 14/15. I feel like there is no end in sight.
I'm 54 and have concluded that I can't be in a romantic/intimate relationship - it totally consumes me and makes me feel like I'm a prisoner in my own head! You're still young so maybe you cld try DBT - I've heard it helps with Borderline. I just never wanna feel like that again.
I do find your stuff to be very interesting and educational where I live. Our therapist aren’t very good. You explain things so much clearer for someone to understand, but I have to be honest. I kind of feel like crap about myself after I listen to some of your things. 😂
THANK THE DEAR LORD for your clarifying the "maladaptive response"! I had been mis-diagnosed, and just DIAGNOSED when I was in extreme danger and being stalked and threatened and physically HURT by and ex fiancé. ALSO my narcissistic MOTHER was very mentaly abusive and controlling AND siding with my abuser! I WAS SCARED TO DEATH! I had run away! I WAS SCARED TO DEATH and I had NO SUPPORT! BUT because I didn't tell a SOUL about it I was thought to be in dissociation!
Hi Dr. Fox, your videos on BPD are very informative and really useful. I appreciate all the work you do for people with these conditions. I was wondering, how are adolescents supposed to be treated, in regards to mental health? Back when i was 14, i was admitted to a regular hospital by ambulance after attempting suicide, having previous history of NSSI and also a diagnosis of depression. The attempt was life-threatening and I was high-risk already from self-harming and impulsive behaviours like drug and alcohol use, and being a flight risk at school. The crisis team spoke to me the next day when i was feeling better, decided that i could continue doing weekly therapy as i had already been doing for two years before the attempt, and sent me home under 24 hours after having arrived. I really feel that they didnt do enough, and didnt really take the time to care or even consider what was going on or how to deal with it. I just think it was a little underwhelming and very invalidating and not a very good judgment call, because i did end up going home and continuing self-injury and my dad was constantly on edge because i was threatening suicide a lot of the time when i felt abandoned or rejected. Later on, more in depth therapy and diagnosed BPD, and I really feel frustrated that I wasn’t taken seriously at 14 for those issues. I dont expect them to have diagnosed BPD in a 14 year old, that is not going to happen, but i am not sure at all whether their reaction to my attempt was normal or whether they really should have taken more precautions, especially with my medical history. Would love to know your input.
I'm sorry to hear about your difficult experience at such a young age. It's important to advocate for proper mental health care, especially for adolescents.
Thanks Dr fox counslier tells me I'm 2 but I no I'm not it's my BPD and I never took meds for it and I'm 58 some counslier they just put down what they won't but I no me and I no better not going to fuss a bout it thanks again.!!
can you talk about bpd + bipolar + autism + ptsd diagnosed all at once? can you have all of these or is the clinician confused about the actual problem? thanks
I’m sorry I’m late to the party, but this is an awesome video! I love all the detail you went into about bipolar vs bpd. I really like this longer video format-I’d enjoy seeing more of these, if you have time to make them. I think that was a critical point you made about there not really being a medication effective for BPD and other personality disorders. So many people self medicate, but it doesn’t fix the problem.
My mom has had a few manic episodes from Bipolar, it seems to worsen as she ages even though she’s been hospitalized and taken medication. I am diagnosed as Bpd but I don’t feel like it’s getting better, I’m feeling worse and mind you I’m an alcoholic, so I’m at loss at which I am cause my mom said it might be manic episodes when I drink super heavy, I get really intense emotions when I’m drunk. So scary when my mom becomes manic, I panic and don’t know what to do. She believes in things that are going on that aren’t and gets really out of reality so it’s scary. Hospitalization for her has taken a month or longer because of it… I hate bipolar. 😢
There ARE a lot of changes from 16 to 18. My father passed when I was 16, but my quality of life was utterly shit before that; partially on me but mostly in response to others. I suffered mentally for a large chunk of my childhood straight into my adulthood. I'm 20 now and I feel like I've gone through way too much. It's so tiring having done 4 different types of antidepressants and now on Quetiapine that doesn't feel like it's improving anything. It's easier havibg some idea of what is going on, but man is it difficult.
Generally speaking, it's probably both. Which of the two is directing the other, and which is more severe, that can be difficult to figure out... First comes understanding, then comes patience and introspection.
Been reading about Evolutionary Psychiatry and saw your name in the footnotes... then my online wandering led to clinical trials happening with psychedelics used to treat anxiety, depression and PTSD. Your videos and books have been invaluable to me, and I hope you will please share your opinion both the evolutionary theory and the clinical use of psychedelics as treatment in mental health.
I believe that anyone with a condition that carries the risk of psychosis-- this includes BPD and Bipolar Disorder-- is not eligible for these studies. Psychedelic substances (including marijuana), are known to hasten the onset and increase the severity of psychotic illness. I'm glad that these new therapies exist, but as with all medications, they're not for everyone.
Thanks for your insight on this topic. I have been diagnosed with BPD recently and bipolar in the past. I was originally diagnosed with BPD at the age of thirteen. I have had symptoms since I was 8 years old. Is this possible at all? You seem to say not.
As someone with BPD people often look at me odd when I say the voice in my head is so loud. I always play music of a video or have my headset super loud to drown it out. I get made fun of at work bc they can hear my headset from where they are sitting.
If I don’t feel that my bpd affects my life (I don’t care much about rejection and emptiness and other symptoms) but still I’m irritable and and binge eat and bored very easily like 2 minutes and I need to go somewhere, to do something else, and it lasts days or weeks and then i feel depressed, lazy and not talkative and I don’t have appetite, can this mean i don’t have bpd but may have bipolar 2?
Still can't make my mind about my own condition: I do have prolonged depression periods which are very severe, i usually cant go out of bed for days, i have suicidal thoughts and even took action once, sleep for days sometimes around 16-18 hours a day. I do have hypo manic phases whic if are not induced by drugs and substance are pretty minor , although very narcissistic. I think im all able and all powerful and that im the most intelligent and capable men in the room and definitely dont need as much sleep breaks or food while in that phase. But i do feel like i have more the 3 phases or characters (stable, manic, depressed), i feel like i have a very wide and diverse personality. With different people im a whole different person. I do have abandonment and attachments issues , woman where always a problem for me. I had like 20 different girl friends in my life and I'm 27. I feel like i define myself and my self worth through my relationships and with woman in particular. Could it be cbpd? Maybe it bd 2 and bpd? Something else? I feel very lost for years now, and from as far as i can remember myself i doubted my sanity and my decision making. Constantly asking people around my for their perspective and opinion for my actions and thoughts.
IF someone was MASSIVELY abused mentaly and physically and on high alert due to impending DANGER, like people WERE after them, can you call them any specific thing?
THAT is the question. Or it could be "bad character." One of my neuropsych evals said my problems could be "characterological." Can we get a video on what that diag means? Is there a medication for that? 🤣
@@WitnessingTyranny Agree. So I sincerely participate in an eval after a 20 year struggle/miracle in order to save my employability and my marriage. This "professional" scores $1,000 bucks from my health insurance payor and all she comes up with is that I'm a bad person. Her other diags were stuff I reported TO HER from my past treatments. Can you GET ptsd FROM the mental health system? Dr. Fox can help us all by simply explaining why the word characterological is used in a psych eval report. Keep it simple. 😇
My mother is severely narcissistic and is in her 70's now, I'm her only child and I'm 20 years younger, I'm 53 now, I'm also autistic and my 3 children have been diagnosed with autism by a psychologist here where I live. My youngest daughter has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, ASD2, Arfid and verbal dyspraxia. She has also been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder by the psychiatrist st the hospital and even though I described my mother as being as determined that she was right as she was being just like my mother. That was how my youngest got that diagnosis even though the psychiatrist did not believe me about my mother. It's a shame she wasn't there to see my mother terrify me and all of the other things she did and didnt do.
20 years ago my wife gave birth and went full blown postpartum-Borderline/Manic Depressive. Irritable mood, engagging in rish-taking behaviors, impulsivity, fear of abandonment, reckless spending, relationship problems, intense anger, hysterical. She is a nightmare to live with & I am leaving her this summer right after our son graduates college.
Are these diseases actual diseases like having cancer? Like, a disease in the brain? If so, why do most people threat it like a personal thing or disfunction, or like, if we just acted differently or think positive? And HOW do you change it. For the love of god, how!?
I like this presentation, but I think we should really evaluate that graph with BPD and bipolar disorder around 3 minutes in. The graph suggests that there are far more individuals with BPD vs bipolar disorder. The BPD circle is massive in comparison. We need to think more critically about this. I believe the size of those circles are not representative of the population. I wish Dr. Fox would spell this out better or make stronger visual guides
i really dont know what I have. I always thought it was bpd but my life changed a lot for the better when i started taking lithium. maybe i have both. to be honest i feel really scared of these diagnosis because i feel i wont be able to live a decent life and will probably end my life sooner or later
I was wondering if Dr Fox 🦊 is a a Christian 😇. I know one of my worst BPD symptoms is the fear of abandonment. I recently became a born again Christian and I now know I will never be alone,and God will never abandon me. Amen
I’m trying to figure out what my mom has. The father of my child says he has this. My mom has similar traits. But I think there’s more. Unfortunately she refuses to get help.
32yo male here , diagnosed with BPD when i was 24 , quiet type , went thru all the therapies , followed by a doc in the private sector. met an amazing girl 7 months ago , said she didnt feel well , guided her thru the process and she ended up with a bipolar type 2 diagnosis.( i didnt help her , she did it by herself i just guided her ) all went well for 4 months , until what i suspect was an hypomanic episode. started lying , pushing my boundaries , stopped all form of meaningful communication , sent an avalanche of mixed feelings. didnt know what to do cause everytime i tried talking to her about it she responded along the lines ' tired of people telling me im a bad person ' i had to leave one month ago , learned the lies started months ago and that i was the only one trying to make it work. even tho im the one who left , cant help but feel the trigger of abandonment. relationships sometimes....
Lord We thank you for Doctors and other professionals who are able to help in these challenging disorders. Lord we thank you for the help of the Holy Spirit in Jesus name Amen
I, as a bpd diagnosed 41 aged 👨, feel some discomforts like feeling impatience an suffocation, Repentance for past mistakes and .... . Then I think you said that there is no medication for personality disorders. What about for decreasing symptoms? And my next question: is RTMS beneficial for it? Is there any reflection from BPD in QEEG ? Thanks 😊
I honestly wish there were more mental health professionals like you that were accessable! The ones in my county and surrounding counties lack empathy. They don't seem to care much or want to actually listen & take into account what their patients have to say. It seems impossible to find a decent mental health doctor for me so your UA-cam videos help me so much more than you know!! Thank you so much for all you do.
I agree
I agree with you Candice Harris UK is aweful
It's really a shame. I also very much believe that Mental health disorders cause so many physical symptoms/illnesses. Family doctors & specialists need to start working hand in hand with mental health professionals. It shouldn't be separate. It's all linked. Physical issues can cause mental health problems and mental health problems can cause physical issues. It also needs to be talked about way more.... Even the mental illnesses that are "bad" or that make ppl "uncomfortable" need to be talked about more openly. My family & many others seems to think you should just be able to simply "get over it" and "change your way of thinking". I wish it were that easy..........
Agreed
The only thing in the UK is to go private, I have done this and cost a lot of money and still not satisfactory, but at least you get to see a psychiatrist at over £ 100, it's just not good enough.
The biggest distinction is that Bipolar is a Mood Disorder & Borderline is a Personality Disorder. I'm one of the 10% and personally, I feel, BPD occurs at a more conscious level in so much as, it affects me less when I avoid my triggers, whereas, my Bipolar breakdowns were triggered biologically ie: pregnancy, stopping medication.
I don't take meds for Borderline, I just avoid what triggers me ie: intimate relationships. Of course, it's not the same for everyone, this is my experience over 30+ years.
Thanks for sharing. I wish you well.
Thanks for making this video! I've noticed I and a lot of other people with BPD are misdiagnosed as Bipolar. Seeing them compared helps a lot
I have both, Bipolar 1 & BPD, but diagnosed 30 years apart!
I am 29 years old and I was diagnosed with borderline when I was 24. I agree with this diagnosis as it is abundantly clear I have BPD. I showed my first symptoms at just 8 years old. That was the first time I formulated a plan to “off” myself. My childhood had some really bad stuff in it and that’s what caused the BPD, along with the fact that my mother clearly has it too from her own adverse childhood experiences.
I know it’s not preferred to diagnose mental health conditions before age 18, but I really do think I suffered from BPD even as a child.
You are the best Dr. Fox, thank you for all that you do for the community, I don't have the words.
Oh my, this was A LOT to process. I can only imagine how difficult this must be to manage internally if you have BOTH. I've already listened twice, I think I'm going to have to listen to this a 3rd time. Heartbreaking what so many people have to go through. So unfair...
It is a very challenging process, but not impossible. In my opinion, I think that it is worth the difficult process for the reward of managing and controlling your life. I wish you all the best.
I had a LPC dx me with BPD even though I had been dx'ed with bipolar many years ago. I was taken off my meds and after 1 year I checked myself into a psych hospital. So thankful for the meds.
hey doctor fox, you are indeed a heaven-sent. i've gone through five psychiatrists already (1 from utah, 4 from the philippines) all of them didn't look through my history enough to distinguish that I am not bipolar I but instead have a bipolar II disorder, not only that after i watched your video i am definitely sure i am bpd. thank you for this. now, i will have to contact a competent psychiatrist and make sure to re-diagnose me but this time i am hoping they'll be so sure. no wonder medications didn't work for me.
I was diagnosed with bipolar 2, however I always thought I had BDP which is a label I don't mind having, I talked about it with my therapist and psychiatrist, they said I didn't have BPD, I thought they were being condescendant, however now I'm certain I'm just 100% bipolar 2 with codependency issues. There's some online pop psychology content that tends to oversimplify diagnosis, beware of diagnosing yourselves people.
Do you mind me asking if you know what your triggers were?
@@soozshooz mostly relationship related: fear of abandonment, poor communication skills, Valuing the approval of my partners more than valuing myself. The pandemic was a huge trigger because my ex partner was really afraid of the virus so he wouldn't let me out, that was making me insane and depressed, also spending 100% time online, I was isolated. Now I'm feeling better.
I was recently diagnosed with anxiety disorder, panic disorder, cptsd , bipolar 2 with BPD traits. Talk about a real head scratcher , and how treatment for one may clash with the other and it’s just insane.
Re: Blaming your spouse for "not letting you out" being online etc during the pandemic.
This is honest objective feedback not meant to dismiss your feelings or experience but because we have a tendency to not self reflect properly at times or reassign blame on others as the 100% cause of how we behave, our actions and how we feel sometimes to avoid accountability, responsibility or not actually look inside to see the real cause because it's a defense mechanism.... during the pandemic it effected EVERYONE in different ways and dismissing your partners fears about going out especially in hindsight because many of us didn't fear, many were very fearful, many like myself had no idea what to think but regardless the world was completely and unexpectedly changed and guess what there was not much else to do but be online to connect to the world when we needed connection more than ever. Certainly it was unhealthy but we all cope differently but what you describing what your partner did is how the vast majority of us did and we may have done it differently with what we know now but to hold that over their head is not fair or justified. I have a hard time believing they simply didn't let you outside as if you were chained but surely people didn't want their love ones getting sick or putting others at risk, again at a point during pandemic nobody truthfully knew and anyone that says "I knew it the whole time" is delusional unless you were a scientist working on the projects directly or if you believe in conspiracy theories than unless you were in on it you didn't know. There were also states like mine that made it law restricting people to stay home and nobody liked that and again in hindsight probably unnecessary but to live with someone who disregards that during a time of uncertainty would probably share their opinion and feelings about it and instead of saying you understand or have a discussion about it and find a place to agree if that was even possible it's an unprecedented moment in history - you solely blame them for your stress, depression, actions (going out or not) and claim now you're better. Ok well we're all better since the pandemic and by the way I just got corona for first time 4 weeks ago and found myself in the hospital and it no joke and realized with humility that I was an idiot to dismiss this as a flu, I literally thought I was dying but let's not make it about me shall we so I was saying we're all better since then for most part but most of the world felt trapped or depressed or anxious or scared or worried or angry or confused and that's not because the people we were with that's the way the whole world felt.
If you are blaming them then you are temporarily better because you aren't taking responsibility or understanding the real root for your reactions feelings or health you have assigned that to something or someone else because that is easier and avoid the guilt and shame we unfairly assign ourselves wnen we realize the real problem was ourselves and condition which isn't our fault but it is our responsibility to understand, manage and navigate and that's impossible if we're still blaming others.
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@@AmirBasri-e3n he was not my spouse, but ex boyfrienfd. Now we are great friends but yes, our tendency to approach things differently was what set us appart. I respected covid and got the vaccine but by 2022 we all had to learn to live with it and by that point I had already been sick from it twice. We had a Last fight in Jan 2022 because I lied about going to a yoga class in an open space, it was actually in a closed room and he got mad because this wasnt covid friendly. That was the Last fight we had. It was not the fact that he didn't let me out, but if it was not under his terms we would fight. I lost connection with all my friends cuz they didn't care about the virus. I take my responssbility about being angry and I had jelousy issues too that contributed significantly to the toxiciy, definitely don't blame him for all, but in the end, we Just had different approaches in life. I hope you are feeling better from covid. Stay safe.
Thank you for explaining the overlaps and differences in such a concise and clear way. It's not only truly fascinating but also very helpful with having loved ones and peers who are affected.
I actually started training and working (for a few hours for starters) as a peer support worker. Your videos inspired me to learn more, find out more about bpd and borderline and look into resources for myself and my cptsd. Your videos are so interesting and my curiosity took me even farther so that now I am beginning a new career at age 58, not having worked in years. I found new friends, new solutions and a whole community.
congratulations!
Thank you so much for your content. I wish there were more licensed professionals that were as helpful as you. I battle with Bipolar two, BPD, severe anxiety disorder, PTSD, and others. It's difficult for people to understand, and there is a stigma against people like me. It's unfair!
Dr. Fox, I've been listening your channel for a while and wanted to say thank you very much for your great work.
Moderate borderline with intense specific social anxiety handling delicate tea or coffee cups in front of others. My SA is so specific and tea obsessive that I am totally opposite in rest of the social situations. So as an extrovert and a social butterfly it is extremely painful for me to miss out on whole things out of the nonsensical fret of possibly having to handle those stupid tea cups. My ridiculous mind will inevitably make me shake my hands when lifting to sip the drink, then I freeze, get stiff, shakes transfer to neck, head, legs, then voice, then blush, in short I invite all the attention to the point where I force people to look away. Then I feel awful for weeks. This whole thing is the exact example of making mountain out of molehill, cooking it all in the head.
What helps
Coping methods and experience of 20 years with the condition
1. Get rid of all drugs, smoking, alcohol
2. When entering shop, don't leave, fight
3. Start is important, you enter confidently, head high, slowly and breathing deep and calm, make eye contacts, act confidently
4. Begin going alone, as BPD have susceptiblity to interference, you may loose focus, calmness by getting distracted
5. When you sit don't look down or pretend to use cellphone, look up, forward, to the ceiling, pay attention to attractive things
6.what to think
Your condition is not your fault, you didn't even come to life on your own. You didn't choose your environment or genes or both This reduces entire mental baggage and self expectation.
It's OK to shake a lil, then deliberate the shake a lil, you will realise not being perfectly steady or lil bodily movements are not embarrassing at all, it is all in the head.
With age you will also realise control panel is the anxiety inside not the exhibition outside, you have to control and calm the mind. Don't fall into the mistake of fighting shakes or blushes
What really helps is to see things while comparing their size with your own size e.g if you struggle with handling small things, just make it a habit to sort of charge at them with a dominant body language telling yourself how comical it is to shy away from something so tiny and benign. You are a big boy/girl, you have large hands, it is so simple.
Handle things with minimum effort, the more energy you put into it the messy it gets
Facial expression is important, act confident and at ease. Don't frown or squint your eyes. Keep your lips together and act wise and calm.
Remember we are all in the same side in the restaurant or on the table with the purpose to enjoy food, it is not a performance event.
Get through first two minutes, half life of negative emotions is so short, that if you start well, as soon as the anxiety subsidies the natural instincts will take over and you will finish the drink in enjoyment.
More power to BPDs and SAD sufferers 👍👍👍
Omg thank you so much for explaining this! Been struggling to see if I have BPD or bipolar because I see symptoms of both. But after you explaining this it makes sense
I'm so glad to hear that the explanation helped clarify things for you! Understanding the differences can be really important.
I'm overwhelmed by my suspicions that I have BPD. I was diagnosed with Bipolar Disorder last year, and while medications are helping somewhat, I still feel all those feelings of emptiness, fear of abandonment, self-hatred / suicidal ideation, affective instability, unstable relationships, fear of abandonment / rejection, risky behaviors. I have periods of instability, but I can pinpoint specific triggers that precede these periods of instability. They're not really brought on by random occurrence.
Anyways, I'm just frustrated. LOL
That really sounds more like BPD than bipolar. You could have both. I also think I have BPD. I have some bipolar symptoms but they don't last that long. I could have episodes that mimic hypomanic phases but they only last a few hours to 1-2 days. Depression lasts much longer. But I also have a ton of different emotions in one day. It's really distressing. I hope you can heal, it's hard but possible
I feel this so much, I'm sorry you have to deal with this shit as well.
Love it, Dr Fox 🙂This reflects all the things I say to my patients when they wonder if they are one or the other re symptom profiles (psych nurse)
My mom has both. It took forever to find the right combination of meds for the bipolar 1. Her bpd is still going strong. She never accepted she had bpd.
Would you be okay with sharing what meds worked?
@@brittanygreen127 Lexapro, Tegretol, Seroquel, and Temazepam for sleep.
Oh no this is much. It depends how strong the bpd is they need it yes but usually it's far too much!! Try Lithium.
@@brittanygreen127Lithium (Priadel) for me. Swear by it. Taken it 30 years xx
After a lot of tests, Doctors.. it's always bipolar but also a lot of bpd. The main symptoms and diagnosis is bipolar. It doesn't matter, both is horrible to live with. I love my hypomania it's better than depression. I go not Manic anymore because of the Lithium, this is really helpful and a great Medication! All other shit I didn't like I stopped Antidepressants they make sometimes everything worse!
I so hope everyone is going to be well soon! Don't let tell you that it's not reversible, it's extremely hard true but possible! Much❤ from Germany
I appreciate everything you do for this community! Is there any way we can support you back?
Thank you. Be well and keep me up to date on your healthy progress is all I could ever ask. Be well.
@@DrDanielFox you are doing noble work Dr Fox ❤
Dr Real Help💜
I hope you find the video helpful and I wish you all the best
I bought the workbook yesterday. Now I'm getting a notebook and try to help myself thru you Dr. Thank you.
i really, really wish you were my doctor. But even then, the way you help me deal with the mess that is my life, thank you sincerely. ♥
Me too, not 🙇🏽🧡
I’m so grateful for your videos as always ❤️
I always learn something here. I had no idea the rapid speech can be part of BPD. I thought that was one of the “presents” exclusively from bipolar lol.
Being a borderpolar can be lame, but I can weather the internal storm with a little help from beautiful people giving out their knowledge for free on the internet. It’s allows me to help myself. ❤️
I was dianosed woth BPD and in fact had bipolar 1 reoccuring psychosis. Ive been watching all your videos, and I think BPD is an expiriment. I thought it in 2010 when they diagnosed me, and I think so now in my place of wellness. You might not see it, but I do. Marsha Linehan had no business practicing psychology with her history of schizophrenia. I live psychosis frequently. We come up with bizarre and crazy ideas.
bipolar 1 is damaging from manic episodes, bipolar 2 the depression can even worse and making daily tasks impossible
I was suicidal with my depression and I have Bipolar 1.
Thanks!
Thank you so much for supporting the channel. It means so much to me. I appreciate it.
You're so wonderful. Thank you for sharing beautiful soul!
This was beyond helpful! Thank you!
Thank you, Dr. Fox. Meds help surface symptoms, not core symptoms. That is very helpful, too💕. Am going to order your book and read it.
That's interesting about the age of first symptoms. I have BPD and I thought at first that I first showed symptoms at age 17, when I first self harmed. But then looking back, I was lying, manuipulating, extremely emotionally volatile and unstable, before age 16. And THEN looking even further back, I developed my first "Favourite Person" (FP) feelings at age 15. And that person continued to be my FP until age 22, before which we were first best friends and then together in an intimate relationship. At age 15, I had a "crush" on her (which I didn't recognise as I didn't think I was gay and felt nothing sexual), and would explode at her, act strangely like throw leaves at her, one time I squashed a pear into the top of her head as I felt insulted and neglected by her. One time she said she might move away, and I got so distraught I had to sit in the toilet cubicle, crying, instead of going to class.
Anyway...yeah. Age 15. BPD. Caused by CPTSD that came from trauma and chronic anxiety and fear starting at age 4.
Bipolar...I have ALL the traits of "mixed episode Bipolar", but I don't have episodes. I'm ALWAYS like this. I'm ALWAYS depressed, and always irritable as a part of that. I'm not unstable or volatile APART from with a FP, if I have one. I only react extremely to them.
were you abused?
@@janettemartin4604 No, but my dad was an alcoholic from when I was 4 until 14, and was verbally abusive to my mum. I was constantly anxious but after age 7, I hid it and acted like I was fine, which is when my OCD started. I didn't even realise I had childhood trauma until 2 years ago!
@@ladybaabaa3294 it is all so abusive you poor beautiful STRONG darling! You have SO MUCH HOPE I think, you are being real with yourself! STAY STRONG! This is a sucky World when your parents are absent in any way!
@@janettemartin4604 Thank you! I hold no anger, blame or resentment towards my dad. He quit drinking cold turkey when I was 14 and I'll be 44 soon, so he hasn't had a drop of alcohol for 30 years and that's something to be proud of.
My parents are still together, as when he wasn't drunk, he was a great husband and father. They're in their mid-70s now.
My mum and I have always been very close, and she was a very stable and strong presence. My dad was more sort of fun, no real discipline, he'd spoil me and I think try to make up for the drinking, even though I didn't show that I hated it. He was only absent when he was drunk, even though he was still there. But he was different, so it scared me. Plus I was always scared he would hurt my mum (verbally mainly, but when I was younger, I worried about physically too, though that thankfully never happened), and I was always loyal to her in our stance that we hated him drinking, but at the same time, I was trying to still make sure my dad knew I loved him. I was also scared my dad would die from drinking, as his mum (my grandma) died when I was only 5 and he was only 34. She was an alcoholic and died from it. My dad's whole family were alcoholics (all who are still alive are sober now) and his childhood was HUGELY traumatic. He once woke up to his mum trying to smother him with a pillow. Yet when she wasn't drinking, she was a great mum.
Before age 7, I would be very open about my displeasure when he'd be drunk. After a while, when nothing changed, it felt embarrassing to show negative emotions, as it felt like my needs were unable to be met, so I preferred not to show I even HAD any needs. I also didn't want my mum to be worried about me. And I didn't want my dad to feel bad. I had felt guilty for expressing my unhappiness with him before.
So...yeah. My issue now is, I have constant fear, a sense of dread, impending doom, and that something bad will happen to my parents. I can't enjoy or deal with anything as I now have depression / anhedonia caused by this long term anxiety. I can't work, I don't shower regularly, I sleep most of the day, and I don't eat all day as I'm never hungry.
Apart from that, between the ages of 17 and 22, almost all the members of my family that I really loved died. I remember feeling numb and that it was a relief to not have many people left that I would be devastated if they died. Which is kinda sad.
That was well written. I can relate. sending hugs 🫂
Thank you so much Dr. Fox. You explain so much in an easy way to follow!
Glad it was helpful!
Listening to you talk about the idealization and devaluation of partners really makes me realize how terrible I have been. I don't devalue him in the way people think, but I do devalue his love for me when he acts "different" and I see now that that is what this is. I am exhausting. I don't wanna live like this. I've been in therapy/on and off meds since I was about 14/15. I feel like there is no end in sight.
I'm 54 and have concluded that I can't be in a romantic/intimate relationship - it totally consumes me and makes me feel like I'm a prisoner in my own head!
You're still young so maybe you cld try DBT - I've heard it helps with Borderline.
I just never wanna feel like that again.
I have had BPD symptoms from my early teenage years
I finally got diagnosed last year, age 29
I do find your stuff to be very interesting and educational where I live. Our therapist aren’t very good. You explain things so much clearer for someone to understand, but I have to be honest. I kind of feel like crap about myself after I listen to some of your things. 😂
THANK THE DEAR LORD for your clarifying the "maladaptive response"! I had been mis-diagnosed, and just DIAGNOSED when I was in extreme danger and being stalked and threatened and physically HURT by and ex fiancé. ALSO my narcissistic MOTHER was very mentaly abusive and controlling AND siding with my abuser! I WAS SCARED TO DEATH! I had run away! I WAS SCARED TO DEATH and I had NO SUPPORT! BUT because I didn't tell a SOUL about it I was thought to be in dissociation!
Great Video. Thank you for posting.
Thank you so very much, Dr. Fox.
Very well explained and understandable.
It is helping me to narrow down a relative's problem.
Hey Dr. 🦊! Hey everybody! Just coming to say hello and wish everybody the best. We are legion BPD ❤️
Hello and welcome.
Hi Dr. Fox, your videos on BPD are very informative and really useful. I appreciate all the work you do for people with these conditions. I was wondering, how are adolescents supposed to be treated, in regards to mental health?
Back when i was 14, i was admitted to a regular hospital by ambulance after attempting suicide, having previous history of NSSI and also a diagnosis of depression. The attempt was life-threatening and I was high-risk already from self-harming and impulsive behaviours like drug and alcohol use, and being a flight risk at school. The crisis team spoke to me the next day when i was feeling better, decided that i could continue doing weekly therapy as i had already been doing for two years before the attempt, and sent me home under 24 hours after having arrived. I really feel that they didnt do enough, and didnt really take the time to care or even consider what was going on or how to deal with it. I just think it was a little underwhelming and very invalidating and not a very good judgment call, because i did end up going home and continuing self-injury and my dad was constantly on edge because i was threatening suicide a lot of the time when i felt abandoned or rejected. Later on, more in depth therapy and diagnosed BPD, and I really feel frustrated that I wasn’t taken seriously at 14 for those issues. I dont expect them to have diagnosed BPD in a 14 year old, that is not going to happen, but i am not sure at all whether their reaction to my attempt was normal or whether they really should have taken more precautions, especially with my medical history. Would love to know your input.
I'm sorry to hear about your difficult experience at such a young age. It's important to advocate for proper mental health care, especially for adolescents.
Thanks Dr fox counslier tells me I'm 2 but I no I'm not it's my BPD and I never took meds for it and I'm 58 some counslier they just put down what they won't but I no me and I no better not going to fuss a bout it thanks again.!!
Thank you so much for your videos!
You are very welcome and I’m glad that you enjoy my content.
can you talk about bpd + bipolar + autism + ptsd diagnosed all at once? can you have all of these or is the clinician confused about the actual problem? thanks
You can absolutely have all of these conditions at once; having a psychiatric disorder increases your risk of developing others.
I have all these plus ADHD 🎉
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This was helpful, thanks.
i really feel like ive had bpd symptom’s since around 13, ive felt the same way all the way up to now 20.
Insight is a powerful thing. Use it to learn about yourself and to build adaptive strategies to help yourself. Be well.
@@DrDanielFox you are so caring for people. I wish we could clone you lol
@@meowmom3296I agree. Meow to you from a cat parent whose one kitty just had her 3 kittens open eyes today! 🐅🐆🐈🐈🍼♥️😽
I’m sorry I’m late to the party, but this is an awesome video! I love all the detail you went into about bipolar vs bpd. I really like this longer video format-I’d enjoy seeing more of these, if you have time to make them. I think that was a critical point you made about there not really being a medication effective for BPD and other personality disorders. So many people self medicate, but it doesn’t fix the problem.
Insight is a powerful thing. Use it to learn about yourself and to build adaptive strategies to help yourself. Be well.
Oh my god this is fantastic it explains everything 🤘
Thanks for the information.
Thank you!
My mom has had a few manic episodes from Bipolar, it seems to worsen as she ages even though she’s been hospitalized and taken medication. I am diagnosed as Bpd but I don’t feel like it’s getting better, I’m feeling worse and mind you I’m an alcoholic, so I’m at loss at which I am cause my mom said it might be manic episodes when I drink super heavy, I get really intense emotions when I’m drunk. So scary when my mom becomes manic, I panic and don’t know what to do. She believes in things that are going on that aren’t and gets really out of reality so it’s scary. Hospitalization for her has taken a month or longer because of it… I hate bipolar. 😢
Wow, you are incredible!
Thanks 😊
There ARE a lot of changes from 16 to 18. My father passed when I was 16, but my quality of life was utterly shit before that; partially on me but mostly in response to others. I suffered mentally for a large chunk of my childhood straight into my adulthood.
I'm 20 now and I feel like I've gone through way too much. It's so tiring having done 4 different types of antidepressants and now on Quetiapine that doesn't feel like it's improving anything. It's easier havibg some idea of what is going on, but man is it difficult.
Thank god for you 🙏 🤘
Very difficult to not take personally a significant others symptoms/ "episodes" (ESPECIALLY when it involves a romantic relationship)
Yes, I don't envy any of my ex's, but then again, they all fell in love with me, so it can't have been all bad!
This was so informative
I'm so glad this video was helpful for you. I wish you well.
Generally speaking, it's probably both. Which of the two is directing the other, and which is more severe, that can be difficult to figure out... First comes understanding, then comes patience and introspection.
Been reading about Evolutionary Psychiatry and saw your name in the footnotes...
then my online wandering led to clinical trials happening with psychedelics used to treat anxiety, depression and PTSD.
Your videos and books have been invaluable to me, and I hope you will please share your opinion both the evolutionary theory and the clinical use of psychedelics as treatment in mental health.
I believe that anyone with a condition that carries the risk of psychosis-- this includes BPD and Bipolar Disorder-- is not eligible for these studies. Psychedelic substances (including marijuana), are known to hasten the onset and increase the severity of psychotic illness. I'm glad that these new therapies exist, but as with all medications, they're not for everyone.
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Very disappointing, but I thank you for responding.
It makes sense why no medication i take ever seems to work.
Do a video on "Is it bipolar or npd?".
Thanks for your insight on this topic. I have been diagnosed with BPD recently and bipolar in the past. I was originally diagnosed with BPD at the age of thirteen. I have had symptoms since I was 8 years old. Is this possible at all? You seem to say not.
You can have both. They aren’t mutually exclusive. I have both. 🙃
As someone with BPD people often look at me odd when I say the voice in my head is so loud. I always play music of a video or have my headset super loud to drown it out. I get made fun of at work bc they can hear my headset from where they are sitting.
I'm sorry honey. They are rude and immature. sending love ❤
Maybe this is why my gf plays music from morning to evening
I’m a bit schizophrenic and have ASPD, I also have what seems to be bi-polar, or BPD. We find it quite confusing.
I hope the video helped clarify some things for you.
I had a question earlier and now it's gone??
So it’s possible to have both type two bipolar and BPD? 😢
If I don’t feel that my bpd affects my life (I don’t care much about rejection and emptiness and other symptoms) but still I’m irritable and and binge eat and bored very easily like 2 minutes and I need to go somewhere, to do something else, and it lasts days or weeks and then i feel depressed, lazy and not talkative and I don’t have appetite, can this mean i don’t have bpd but may have bipolar 2?
You can also have both. I suggest that you get assessed by a professional.
Still can't make my mind about my own condition:
I do have prolonged depression periods which are very severe, i usually cant go out of bed for days, i have suicidal thoughts and even took action once, sleep for days sometimes around 16-18 hours a day.
I do have hypo manic phases whic if are not induced by drugs and substance are pretty minor , although very narcissistic. I think im all able and all powerful and that im the most intelligent and capable men in the room and definitely dont need as much sleep breaks or food while in that phase.
But i do feel like i have more the 3 phases or characters (stable, manic, depressed), i feel like i have a very wide and diverse personality. With different people im a whole different person.
I do have abandonment and attachments issues , woman where always a problem for me.
I had like 20 different girl friends in my life and I'm 27.
I feel like i define myself and my self worth through my relationships and with woman in particular.
Could it be cbpd?
Maybe it bd 2 and bpd?
Something else?
I feel very lost for years now, and from as far as i can remember myself i doubted my sanity and my decision making. Constantly asking people around my for their perspective and opinion for my actions and thoughts.
IF someone was MASSIVELY abused mentaly and physically and on high alert due to impending DANGER, like people WERE after them, can you call them any specific thing?
Hyper vigilant
CPTSD
THAT is the question. Or it could be "bad character." One of my neuropsych evals said my problems could be "characterological." Can we get a video on what that diag means? Is there a medication for that? 🤣
@@WitnessingTyranny Agree. So I sincerely participate in an eval after a 20 year struggle/miracle in order to save my employability and my marriage. This "professional" scores $1,000 bucks from my health insurance payor and all she comes up with is that I'm a bad person. Her other diags were stuff I reported TO HER from my past treatments. Can you GET ptsd FROM the mental health system? Dr. Fox can help us all by simply explaining why the word characterological is used in a psych eval report. Keep it simple. 😇
I think callig it emotion swings rather than mood swings is better when it comes to BPD
Interesting idea and thank you for your thoughts
My mother is severely narcissistic and is in her 70's now, I'm her only child and I'm 20 years younger, I'm 53 now, I'm also autistic and my 3 children have been diagnosed with autism by a psychologist here where I live. My youngest daughter has been diagnosed with schizophrenia, ASD2, Arfid and verbal dyspraxia. She has also been diagnosed with borderline personality disorder by the psychiatrist st the hospital and even though I described my mother as being as determined that she was right as she was being just like my mother. That was how my youngest got that diagnosis even though the psychiatrist did not believe me about my mother. It's a shame she wasn't there to see my mother terrify me and all of the other things she did and didnt do.
Sounds difficult. Stay strong and be well
is it possible to have both?
20 years ago my wife gave birth and went full blown postpartum-Borderline/Manic Depressive. Irritable mood, engagging in rish-taking behaviors, impulsivity, fear of abandonment, reckless spending, relationship problems, intense anger, hysterical. She is a nightmare to live with & I am leaving her this summer right after our son graduates college.
How do you feel about ADHD with BPD, diagnosis?
I have videos on this and I address this in my Complex BPD book. You may find these resources helpful
@@DrDanielFox wow interesting thanks
Is there any info on BPD with stuff like euphoric episodes, racing thoughts and heighten mood/energy, or could you maybe talk about it, Dr. Fox?
I was diagnosed with both BP2 and BPD, although my psychologist suspects that I have a mild case of DID, rather than BPD.
What if you find yourself getting mad at yourself for not measuring up to your own standards?
Are these diseases actual diseases like having cancer? Like, a disease in the brain? If so, why do most people threat it like a personal thing or disfunction, or like, if we just acted differently or think positive? And HOW do you change it. For the love of god, how!?
This level of naivety is insane to me…
❤ Very helpful
Glad it was helpful!
I like this presentation, but I think we should really evaluate that graph with BPD and bipolar disorder around 3 minutes in. The graph suggests that there are far more individuals with BPD vs bipolar disorder. The BPD circle is massive in comparison. We need to think more critically about this. I believe the size of those circles are not representative of the population. I wish Dr. Fox would spell this out better or make stronger visual guides
i really dont know what I have. I always thought it was bpd but my life changed a lot for the better when i started taking lithium. maybe i have both. to be honest i feel really scared of these diagnosis because i feel i wont be able to live a decent life and will probably end my life sooner or later
I was wondering if Dr Fox 🦊 is a a Christian 😇. I know one of my worst BPD symptoms is the fear of abandonment. I recently became a born again Christian and I now know I will never be alone,and God will never abandon me. Amen
So the basic type is if u don't bother with a shrink I don't have either
Please look into fixing your audio as it is a tad distracting :)
Are those with BPD/Bipolar disorder more prone to having children while in their teens?
I’m trying to figure out what my mom has. The father of my child says he has this. My mom has similar traits. But I think there’s more. Unfortunately she refuses to get help.
Insight is a powerful thing. Use it to learn about yourself and to build adaptive strategies to help yourself. Be well.
32yo male here , diagnosed with BPD when i was 24 , quiet type , went thru all the therapies , followed by a doc in the private sector.
met an amazing girl 7 months ago , said she didnt feel well , guided her thru the process and she ended up with a bipolar type 2 diagnosis.( i didnt help her , she did it by herself i just guided her )
all went well for 4 months , until what i suspect was an hypomanic episode.
started lying , pushing my boundaries , stopped all form of meaningful communication , sent an avalanche of mixed feelings.
didnt know what to do cause everytime i tried talking to her about it she responded along the lines ' tired of people telling me im a bad person '
i had to leave one month ago , learned the lies started months ago and that i was the only one trying to make it work.
even tho im the one who left , cant help but feel the trigger of abandonment.
relationships sometimes....
Lord
We thank you for Doctors and other professionals who are able to help in these challenging disorders.
Lord we thank you for the help of the Holy Spirit in Jesus name
Amen
This is why I don't understand why so many kids are diagnosed with Bipolar in America.
Is it true if a person with Bipolar and BPD come off their medication it could be harm their brain?
It can have severe side effects. Always critical to talk with your provider first.
I, as a bpd diagnosed 41 aged 👨, feel some discomforts like feeling impatience an suffocation, Repentance for past mistakes and .... . Then I think you said that there is no medication for personality disorders. What about for decreasing symptoms? And my next question: is RTMS beneficial for it? Is there any reflection from BPD in QEEG ?
Thanks 😊
I can not focus, even on your speech !
i think i might have both
It’s certainly possible. I would suggest going to see a professional to find out for sure.
Hey um what is family in the head i am secretly (also have been) dying to Know.
There are no complex borderline disorder... icd10 and 11 dosnt have it and it would be new to me if the dsm5 would have such one...
I'm so glad this video was helpful for you. I wish you well.
i BPD and Bipolar
They're often comorbid.
This just made me more confused 😢
👍🏻
Thank you
is it bpd or bipolar??? its both ._.
*in my case*
What happens if a bpd dates a narcissist
Your explanation of the differences between bipolar 1 and 2 was Very unclear
When it's both together 🤡