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Hey Sam. Very interesting review and I agree with your conclusion. Great to see you out of the studio and with your family. Great kids, and all the best to your wife.
And then I see those videos of spiders the size of small dogs posted up on the ceiling like "Hello fellow Outbacker, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior The Mist?" And I'm like...NOPE. I'm good.
Thanks for the review. I recently bought the Omoda E5 the android auto issue has to do with your phone I had similar issues until I change my phone. This car is a great car my only issue is the poor DAB radio signal.
This is a reference to the old ICE cars that were imported years ago. The company gave up with them in Australia because as you say they were poor quality.
...just like Japanese cars tended to rust like crazy in the beginning. Dude...sone even give Diesel-gate xriminals am ther chance...with burning BEVs like the ID7...sibde they use outdated batteries and electronics.
I have had the E5 omoda the top of the range one and i live in the UK and it's winter here and I've found the range not up to what they say and I've been driving ev cars since 2017 Nissan's. And i agree with you about the regeneration it's not up to it, and the tugging on the wheel so basically i agree with all you have said and your review is the best I've watched so far 👍👍
They need to make the "driver assist" stuff so that it takes the hint if you fight it even if the lane keeping gets fixed. Touch screens in a cold climate can be trouble. You don't really need you phone to connect. You can run the navigation software right on your phone and use one of those phone holder things.
Your exactly bang on like a tasty bit of appealing cake you bite into it and then are disappointed. So wanted to like it for a purchase with all the pluses you mentioned. But how someone signed off the software for this. The throttle progression the regen and braking just don’t gel. I felt sick too and so glad to get in the smooth MG again. Even the dealer agreed. Omoda have lost a lot of sales I imagine over these issues. Thanks Sam👍
Nice review, thanks. I’m looking to test drive one myself in NZ soon. With regard to the software issues and the opinion of possibly being fixed with an update, have you spoken to Chery about it? I’d be interested to see what they say and if they plan on addressing the issues in the near future.
E5 interior has more european elegance design. Charging port i prefer omoda because center location is more versatile on the charger cable lenght , shape since i prefer sleek and simple look, i prefer also omoda. but atto3 wins on rear seat spaces.
I'm surprised that with your height you didn't mention the low door opening and the low roof. I'm 1.8m with limited neck flexibility and I struggled to get into the front seats. That was an immediate deal breaker for us. I found the Atto 3 significantly easier to get into and we're happy with the car after 7 weeks of ownership (except for the lane keeping but at least we can permanently turn off the active assist).
Doesn't sound better than the Atto, which in my experience is very well harmonised. I am a bit weird, I love the Atto interior, but I am also into modern art.
Even if u don't have solar panels at home, you can get off peak tariff electricity deal from your electricity retailer so charging your ev vehicle at discounted rates.
@@jinoz8560 I have the panels and a battery and have been with Amber Electricty for 5 months now. I'm just stating that a car that charges itself would help alleviate those people with range anxiety and fear the way to charge them. Imagine just parking in the street for a few hours to too to ur car up.
You could probably fit 1.5 475W panels on a car like this, so maybe 700W at noon on a clear summer day. And it wouldn't work everywhere you park, eg, covered parks, tree shade, building shade. Best left for the solar panels at home.
I suspect the range & accleration is due to the gear ratio of the motor/gearbox. Not so much of the weight or size of the car given the same capacity battery.
Nice video. Can I ask if you were able to permanently turn off the speed limit chime? I.e. when you go over the speed limit it ‘ BINGS’ it looks like you have to turn the noise off each time you get in the car!!
Somebody should put a solar charge controller directly in the car, with MC4 connectors. Especially with vehicle to load / grid coming. The car itself would be your powerwall
@@AddisAbebaBete icar 03 is much better, the battery is provided by CATL. And the all-aluminum alloy chassis, four-wheel drive system, chassis texture and control are very good. It is a boutique model of Chery.
One issue worth noting is that this car won't suit taller people. I turned up to request a test drive but after adjusting the seat to the lowest level found my head was still tilted and pressing against the ceiling. At 196cm I rarely get people yelling "freak" at me in the street, and I felt I needed to be a good couple of inches shorter to be comfortable. I'm not sure what maximum driver height is likely to be but it may top out around 6'3"(?)....unless there is an extra adjustment I'm not aware of?
Is there a problem generally with generative breaking that the other breaks will stop working? It is a problem in Sweden with snow and salt on the roads.
The Chinese are building some amazing cars, BUT not reliable. They will devalue faster and have a lot more issues in a few years. Here in NZ they are already having warranty claims for rust
For those who don't have solar, does Australia have a system whereby it is cheaper to charge EVs (i.e., use electricity) at night or during off peak hours?
because we have such high solar uptake, the wholesale price can be negative during certain times. Some power companies leverage this to offer $0 electricity for 2-3 hours around midday if you have an EV plan. I have free power 12-2 which is enough to put ~12 or so kWh into my EV on a 7kW charger
Think chery is the most practical with spare wheel charging port location and infotainment display seems better all in one than two separate screens But probably need to wait maybe a model or two down the line
Sam, good criticisms and observations. As you probably know I drove that exact car about 500km during my week with it including my test loop where I concluded its real range is about 350km, and you picked up a lot of the same faults I did. While we did like some aspects - notably the ride and the interior, other critical things - the software calibration for regen, electric steering, throttle delivery and numerous other things were only half-finished. All things that Chery can fix with a software upgrade (shame the car doesn't support OTA updates) but at the moment - it feels like nobody at the factory bothered to test it and no way can I recommend this car. Here's our review in case you missed it: ua-cam.com/video/VHChZJJqdFs/v-deo.html
I think in my country this car sells good with no user complaints about driving comfort. Regen braking mostly used is 1 or 2 because with just release of Trottle pedals it slowed down the car smoothly and with very light additional brake pedal press just touching the brake switch ,it will activate more regen braking without using the brake pad. This is the way fot smooth driving. Regen level 3 is not usefull, to strong. Electric steering and trottle delivery is normal in my country. everything works smoothly . Maybe software version is different.
In order to be compatible with the driving habits of traditional fuel vehicles, Chery prohibits the accelerator pedal opening to control the strength of kinetic energy recovery, but can set three levels of kinetic energy recovery strength. When the accelerator pedal is completely released, the kinetic energy recovery strength can only be carried out according to the set value. Omoda E5 uses the IPB brake system provided by Bosch. If you need to continue to strengthen the power recovery strength, you can adjust it by stepping on the front part of the brake pedal. This kinetic energy recovery system of Chery is very easy to use in actual use. When testing vehicles, reviewers like you should read the driving manual more and understand the performance of the vehicle, instead of self-righteously throwing out your own naive opinions.
@@kindness-villain You wouldn't say that if you'd seen the driving manual that came with the car. 280 pages of Chenglish. Clearly written in Chinese and loosely translated and not proof-read by a native English speaker. An no mention in the entire thing about regeneration, how to select it, change it, how it's used, what it does. So I politely suggest you can skip the "self righteous" comment unless you've done your homework. Which in this case it seems you haven't. And as for "the front part of the brake pedal"? As opposed to ...? What other part of the brake pedal would you like the driver to push? Back? Middle? Left side? Top? Look it's not a bad car in many ways but the Regen system needs calibration. It needs work. Bosch or not, It's not good. It's nowhere near good as many rival vehicles. Mainly because of the jerkiness and that it takes too long to respond to driver inputs. It's not technique related Mr Kindness-Villain. The good news is - it's probably just software so easily fixable. But Sam is right - Max level Regen is unusable.
@@inCARnationAustraliaThe difference between the third-level kinetic energy recovery and the first-level kinetic energy recovery is not so obvious. I have said it very clearly. The third-level kinetic energy recovery strength set by the system in the Chery electric car is only auxiliary. The strong kinetic energy recovery strength is adjusted linearly by the pedaling amplitude of the brake pedal. This is also the most suitable braking method for fuel vehicles. Just because you can't adjust the power recovery strength through the brake pedal does not mean that others will not use it. Why didn't users of Omoda E5 in Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, the United Kingdom, and Spain mention this problem? I have been driving the Chery Exed LX Phev for two years and I am very satisfied with its power recovery method. The only dissatisfaction with the braking system: when the vehicle speed drops to 8km/h during braking, the kinetic energy recovery will automatically exit, and only the mechanical brake will continue to work, and the car will nod.
Sam himself reported BYDs coming to Oz with rust in panels of new cars. Who makes cars without galvanized metal these days? BYD evidently. My point was that 600km road tests show very little about the longevity and quality of a product; even crash tests will be of the best of the vehices they make; they are not going to submit vehicles with missing welds for example when perhaps 20% of the vehicles they sell to the public are getting out with such terrible flaws - this is due to a massive lack of QA in chinese car makers part look up Statistical Quality control or Deming and you'll see why Japanese companies have risen to be the top quality brands.
Chery is currently selling very low quality in Mexico, the omoda are the worst, transmission, engine, electrical issues and dealerships aren't able to fix them
All the models that Chery sells have been tested on the road for millions of kilometers. Moreover, Omoda E5 is not the first electric model produced by Chery. It has more than ten years of experience in the research and development and production of electric vehicles. I think the questions raised by Viking are because they do not fully understand the characteristics of the model and have not communicated with Chery engineers. They are all very subjective.
I'm sorry but you're understanding of regen breaking is incorrect. When you apply the brakes you are taking manual control of the regen breaking as illustrated on the plus minus power meter. Brake pads don't apply until regen brake not adequate.
@@paulc6766The kinetic energy recovery system of Chery Automobile adopts Bosch IPB system. Due to the major safety hazards of single pedal mode, Chery prohibits the use of it. The intensity of energy recovery can be controlled by the pedaling force in the front part of the brake pedal travel. The mechanical brake pad will only intervene when the brake pedal travel enters the middle part.
The key problem with short reviews even 600 miles - is it tells you nothing about the build quality and longevity of the vehicle.Example: Chinese makers are under pressure to use chinese made bearings - so? So they are not durable; China is unable to make the high quality steel and bearings that help make a car last. In 600 miles; you would hope you would not need parts or service - is there any? Many new Chinese brands have zero service stations or parts for repair them with; so you can't evaluate their service. Even Tesla has very limited repair and parts capabiity. It's like trying to judge a book by it's cover - you can't judge the key matters.
You know nothing about Chinese cars. The bearings used in Chery cars are all provided by nsk and skf The body frame, which is very important for car safety, uses more than 80% hot-formed steel and high-strength steel, and is provided by Germany's Benteler. The paint automatic spraying equipment is from Germany's Durr, and the body paint is supplied by DuPont.
In my country chinese car has been around for 6 to 7 years. And no problem within that period. Chery engine also has 10 years or 1mio km of warranty here. Lots of my friends are happy with their chery.
@@hadisoewoyo8739 Im not really addressing BYD or Chery except for BEVs - Chery and BYD make cars other than BeVs - plusCherry isn't public so you can't tell if it makes any money. They are considering going public and having stock. China made this problem. It gave 1/3 Trillion to incentivise new BEV companies. They initially had 500 BeV startups and still have 100. These are dragging down Chinese car quality in general but bEVs specifically because they are trying to survive by low price cutting every corner to try and survive - very bad situation for all.
I would not want an EV if flooding comes back as it did in Brisbane a few years back. This has been highlighted by the recent hurricanes in America. Burnt out EVs everywhere.
So you are willing to sit in a metal box with an 800-volt power pack under your seat sitting in water. It was worse when storm surges brought salt water into contact with the battery. Also several cases of people drowning in submerged EVs due to door locks not functioning. One was a Tesla in America that reversed into a pond on a ranch. A female driver sadly died.
This is why I'm glad you guys (in AU) can beta test the Chinese cars, it will take them years to get the details to work, like Tesla needed years to get the car features like parking assist and all the other stuff that needed to get better.
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This is not a finished product. This is the fear I personally have about point to point Chinese cars. Chinese cars should be sold through established brands like Toyota and Nissan. The way Buick and Volvo are doing. Those companies can fine tune and weed out problems like re-gen. They will also provide an established service network. After fine tuning the Chinese brands can stand on their own. Cars like this are going to give the Chinese a bad reputation.
@FrankiePo89 The Chery Omoda 5, introduced in China in the second quarter of 2022, has experienced varying sales figures over the past two years. In 2022, a total of 8,258 units were sold. However, in 2023, sales declined to 3,538 units. In May 2024, Chery reported a significant increase in sales, reaching 188,556 vehicles globally, a 35.5% year-on-year rise. Of these, 92,481 units were exported. While specific sales figures for the Omoda 5 in May 2024 are not detailed, the overall growth indicates a positive trend for Chery's vehicle lineup.
@FrankiePo89 Exactly, that's my point-while the Omoda might do well in markets outside China, it is clearly not equipped to withstand the intense competition in China's automotive market.
High-mileage electric car usage is working out almost twice as expensive as petrol What’s promised isn’t always what you get with electric cars - my 11,000 miles in Ford Mustang Mach-E proved it’s far from an EV panacea This is the headline from one of the Telegraphs writers. And even better, he would rather drive his Honda Civic Type R since it is more efficient and better on the highway than an EV. Oh and EV owners in the UK are being told not to use portable heaters in their EVs since they lose so much range in the freezing cold. Gas wins again.
@ not here it won’t. And most cities around the world realize that so they won’t be bringing that in either. And think about it, if delivery companies can’t get into the city, how fast will they and those companies that rely on them pack up and leave the city? It’s already happening in Toronto and other major cities, how fast will those cities stop with those bans? They can’t survive without those businesses and delivery companies
I can’t speak to your exact circumstances but here in Australia I’ve done 48,000 km of mostly freeway driving in 18 months in a Tesla model y. Lifetime usage is 162wh per kilometre which works out at $4.20 per 100km or about 1/4 the cost of fueling a similar size car. Superchargers work out at about $9 per 100km which is still cheap. Tyres cost a little more but I have saved a lot on service costs. I would be wary of media reports as one can structure a test to achieve any outcome desired. Here in Australia the daily mail did a test using one of the worst ev available and compared it a diesel version of the same and also didn’t have access to the only comprehensive fast charging network and complained about slow charging and excessive electricity usage. I was rather impressed at the amount of research they would have done to find the outcome they were looking for. The only issue being having done the research they would have been fully aware of dishonest nature of the story being told.
@ last December a news reporter from Chicago wanted to see his daughter in New York City and he took a model Y. A coworker went with him to document the travel and charging time. He recorded the Tesla was lying about the full charge. He would spend an hour at the Tesla charging stations along the way and the car never got the estimated range. It was always half of what it said. 300 miles, he would travel 150 on a full charge. 200 miles, he would travel 100 miles on the full charge. It took them an extra day to get to New York City. Absolute crap of a vehicle. It shows Tesla is not a car manufacturer but a software manufacturer.
@@kevinW826 So the westerners keeping the city clean brouhaha are just a farce? They've spent so much of your taxpayers money all for nothing? Are you fuming and did you bring it up to your representative?
Stick with Tesla. Chinese ev brands are inferior in every aspect. The price differences are insignificant. Consider that the model Y is proven as the safest vehicle and reliable.
This is not a finished product. This is the fear I personally have about point to point Chinese cars. Chinese cars should be sold through established brands like Toyota and Nissan. The way Buick and Volvo are doing. Those companies can fine tune and weed out problems like re-gen. They will also provide an established service network. After fine tuning the Chinese brands can stand on their own. Cars like this are going to give the Chinese a bad reputation.
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Hey Sam. Very interesting review and I agree with your conclusion. Great to see you out of the studio and with your family. Great kids, and all the best to your wife.
Good review Sam, spot on and thank you. I felt the same for all of the cons, and that's why I bought Atto 3
Great review Sam. Thank you.
Australia is a tropical dream
That is a place I would love to visit some day!
only the north
I wouldn't able to drive wrong side of the car and road
And then I see those videos of spiders the size of small dogs posted up on the ceiling like "Hello fellow Outbacker, do you have a moment to talk about our Lord and Savior The Mist?"
And I'm like...NOPE. I'm good.
@@Ian-lm5ep I visited for 3 months and was still getting into the car on the wrong side.
Looking forward to all evs having a full size spare
Thanks for the review. I recently bought the Omoda E5 the android auto issue has to do with your phone I had similar issues until I change my phone. This car is a great car my only issue is the poor DAB radio signal.
Great video Sam.
Having a spare is cool but too many Aussies remember cherrys first crack at selling cars in oz and won't go anywhere near them.
And maybe many aussie have no past issue with them and will give it a go.
When was that?
Not Datsun Cherry?
So bad they changed name to Nissan.
It seems like you are wrong. I'm living in a tiny town in W.A. and I have seen a few of them around
This is a reference to the old ICE cars that were imported years ago. The company gave up with them in Australia because as you say they were poor quality.
...just like Japanese cars tended to rust like crazy in the beginning. Dude...sone even give Diesel-gate xriminals am ther chance...with burning BEVs like the ID7...sibde they use outdated batteries and electronics.
Great review. Your boys are going to take over spot as the bloger They are cute.
Thanks! Glad you enjoyed it!
I have had the E5 omoda the top of the range one and i live in the UK and it's winter here and I've found the range not up to what they say and I've been driving ev cars since 2017 Nissan's. And i agree with you about the regeneration it's not up to it, and the tugging on the wheel so basically i agree with all you have said and your review is the best I've watched so far 👍👍
They need to make the "driver assist" stuff so that it takes the hint if you fight it even if the lane keeping gets fixed.
Touch screens in a cold climate can be trouble.
You don't really need you phone to connect. You can run the navigation software right on your phone and use one of those phone holder things.
Your exactly bang on like a tasty bit of appealing cake you bite into it and then are disappointed. So wanted to like it for a purchase with all the pluses you mentioned. But how someone signed off the software for this. The throttle progression the regen and braking just don’t gel. I felt sick too and so glad to get in the smooth MG again. Even the dealer agreed. Omoda have lost a lot of sales I imagine over these issues. Thanks Sam👍
Great honest review!
Does not matter which EV is better. We are getting neither in the US or Canada.
And you may expect Mexico to go it's own way.
Welcome to the new world. It used to be the other way around for us in Asia during the last century. 😂
Nice review, thanks. I’m looking to test drive one myself in NZ soon. With regard to the software issues and the opinion of possibly being fixed with an update, have you spoken to Chery about it? I’d be interested to see what they say and if they plan on addressing the issues in the near future.
Shape - Atto 3
Charging Location - Atto 3
Price - Omoda E5
Inteirior - Atto 3
E5 interior has more european elegance design. Charging port i prefer omoda because center location is more versatile on the charger cable lenght , shape since i prefer sleek and simple look, i prefer also omoda. but atto3 wins on rear seat spaces.
I'm surprised that with your height you didn't mention the low door opening and the low roof. I'm 1.8m with limited neck flexibility and I struggled to get into the front seats. That was an immediate deal breaker for us. I found the Atto 3 significantly easier to get into and we're happy with the car after 7 weeks of ownership (except for the lane keeping but at least we can permanently turn off the active assist).
If BMW or Toyota Lexus make something like this EV Omoda equivalent , they will charge 80,000 or more.
And charge you a few grand a year to service and upgrade software😂
It's great😀
Mon the lads!! Footy!!
Doesn't sound better than the Atto, which in my experience is very well harmonised. I am a bit weird, I love the Atto interior, but I am also into modern art.
Is it a game changer?
Probably 🤣
nice call lol
Classic 😂
Nah he doesn’t hold Chery shares
absolutely not
Solar on an EV should really be a given. I men charging as you go, at the shops, Really anywhere you park the car.🎉
Even if u don't have solar panels at home, you can get off peak tariff electricity deal from your electricity retailer so charging your ev vehicle at discounted rates.
@@jinoz8560 I have the panels and a battery and have been with Amber Electricty for 5 months now. I'm just stating that a car that charges itself would help alleviate those people with range anxiety and fear the way to charge them. Imagine just parking in the street for a few hours to too to ur car up.
You could probably fit 1.5 475W panels on a car like this, so maybe 700W at noon on a clear summer day. And it wouldn't work everywhere you park, eg, covered parks, tree shade, building shade. Best left for the solar panels at home.
this is a very nice review. it's seems very honest and devoid of gentle bullshit you see in other reviews.
I suspect the range & accleration is due to the gear ratio of the motor/gearbox. Not so much of the weight or size of the car given the same capacity battery.
Advise please
Atto 3 or Omoda E5
Nice video. Can I ask if you were able to permanently turn off the speed limit chime? I.e. when you go over the speed limit it ‘ BINGS’ it looks like you have to turn the noise off each time you get in the car!!
Yes u can.
Good review please get the to do some better marketing also about $3 to $4K cheaper in price they will sell good nice car
Somebody should put a solar charge controller directly in the car, with MC4 connectors. Especially with vehicle to load / grid coming. The car itself would be your powerwall
I wish you have driven Chery's ICAR 03, and provide us your honest review.
icar 03好很多，电池由宁德时代提供的。而且全铝合金底盘，四驱系统、底盘质感和操控非常好。属于chery的精品车型。
@kindness-villain what does it mean? i can't read Chinese & couldn't copy paste it translate in google.
@@AddisAbebaBete icar 03 is much better, the battery is provided by CATL. And the all-aluminum alloy chassis, four-wheel drive system, chassis texture and control are very good. It is a boutique model of Chery.
The petrol version is not very fuel efficient, so I can't think this one will be very competitive in terms of efficiency and range.
This one is good. In my country it can travel for 450 to 472km in single full charge.
Looking forward to your G6 review! How does the Cherry compare ?
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lindia?????????????????
@ what? You mean india
One issue worth noting is that this car won't suit taller people. I turned up to request a test drive but after adjusting the seat to the lowest level found my head was still tilted and pressing against the ceiling. At 196cm I rarely get people yelling "freak" at me in the street, and I felt I needed to be a good couple of inches shorter to be comfortable. I'm not sure what maximum driver height is likely to be but it may top out around 6'3"(?)....unless there is an extra adjustment I'm not aware of?
How does that front charger work after a front fender bender?
Hey g-day Sam. Interesting EV review! Does your youngest boy like Mexican music? His hair cut is like Peso Pluma's
How much cost that EV ?
Any feedback from Chery about your criticisms?
Seems the didn't learn from the KIA E-Nero that a front charge like that isn't great
Is there a problem generally with generative breaking that the other breaks will stop working? It is a problem in Sweden with snow and salt on the roads.
The mechanical brakes should still work as normal.
@ Teslas has had this problem two years now. Cost $1000 to repair.
Two cute boys!
The Chinese are building some amazing cars, BUT not reliable. They will devalue faster and have a lot more issues in a few years. Here in NZ they are already having warranty claims for rust
Man, why are the AC charging speeds so slow?
How is safety? Semi great-offset rear end semi trailer on A pillar. AEB Automatic Emergency Braking?
5 star euro ncap
The kids review is the one to listen to, sorry Sam!! (lol) Sounds like you are raising another gear head?
When you use brake pedal, does it not use regen first before the actual brake pads?
Depends on the design. Some cars do not use any mechanical braking unless you press brake pedal.
Absolutely, just light press on pedal activate regen first. This shown on the energy display being charge the battery more.
In that case that's the point of one pedal during? I'd rather just brake when I need to. It's easier than less car sick
For those who don't have solar, does Australia have a system whereby it is cheaper to charge EVs (i.e., use electricity) at night or during off peak hours?
because we have such high solar uptake, the wholesale price can be negative during certain times. Some power companies leverage this to offer $0 electricity for 2-3 hours around midday if you have an EV plan. I have free power 12-2 which is enough to put ~12 or so kWh into my EV on a 7kW charger
@@Clove_Parma That's nuts. With an ICE vehicle you spend $100 in fuel, and $66 of it goes up in heat, pollution and engine wear.
Think chery is the most practical with spare wheel charging port location and infotainment display seems better all in one than two separate screens
But probably need to wait maybe a model or two down the line
icar 03 or icar 03t better than omoda e5
Sam, good criticisms and observations. As you probably know I drove that exact car about 500km during my week with it including my test loop where I concluded its real range is about 350km, and you picked up a lot of the same faults I did. While we did like some aspects - notably the ride and the interior, other critical things - the software calibration for regen, electric steering, throttle delivery and numerous other things were only half-finished. All things that Chery can fix with a software upgrade (shame the car doesn't support OTA updates) but at the moment - it feels like nobody at the factory bothered to test it and no way can I recommend this car. Here's our review in case you missed it: ua-cam.com/video/VHChZJJqdFs/v-deo.html
I think in my country this car sells good with no user complaints about driving comfort. Regen braking mostly used is 1 or 2 because with just release of Trottle pedals it slowed down the car smoothly and with very light additional brake pedal press just touching the brake switch ,it will activate more regen braking without using the brake pad. This is the way fot smooth driving. Regen level 3 is not usefull, to strong.
Electric steering and trottle delivery is normal in my country. everything works smoothly . Maybe software version is different.
In order to be compatible with the driving habits of traditional fuel vehicles, Chery prohibits the accelerator pedal opening to control the strength of kinetic energy recovery, but can set three levels of kinetic energy recovery strength. When the accelerator pedal is completely released, the kinetic energy recovery strength can only be carried out according to the set value. Omoda E5 uses the IPB brake system provided by Bosch. If you need to continue to strengthen the power recovery strength, you can adjust it by stepping on the front part of the brake pedal. This kinetic energy recovery system of Chery is very easy to use in actual use. When testing vehicles, reviewers like you should read the driving manual more and understand the performance of the vehicle, instead of self-righteously throwing out your own naive opinions.
@@kindness-villain You wouldn't say that if you'd seen the driving manual that came with the car. 280 pages of Chenglish. Clearly written in Chinese and loosely translated and not proof-read by a native English speaker. An no mention in the entire thing about regeneration, how to select it, change it, how it's used, what it does. So I politely suggest you can skip the "self righteous" comment unless you've done your homework. Which in this case it seems you haven't. And as for "the front part of the brake pedal"? As opposed to ...? What other part of the brake pedal would you like the driver to push? Back? Middle? Left side? Top? Look it's not a bad car in many ways but the Regen system needs calibration. It needs work. Bosch or not, It's not good. It's nowhere near good as many rival vehicles. Mainly because of the jerkiness and that it takes too long to respond to driver inputs. It's not technique related Mr Kindness-Villain. The good news is - it's probably just software so easily fixable. But Sam is right - Max level Regen is unusable.
@@inCARnationAustraliaThe difference between the third-level kinetic energy recovery and the first-level kinetic energy recovery is not so obvious. I have said it very clearly. The third-level kinetic energy recovery strength set by the system in the Chery electric car is only auxiliary. The strong kinetic energy recovery strength is adjusted linearly by the pedaling amplitude of the brake pedal. This is also the most suitable braking method for fuel vehicles. Just because you can't adjust the power recovery strength through the brake pedal does not mean that others will not use it. Why didn't users of Omoda E5 in Indonesia, Malaysia, Singapore, the United Kingdom, and Spain mention this problem? I have been driving the Chery Exed LX Phev for two years and I am very satisfied with its power recovery method. The only dissatisfaction with the braking system: when the vehicle speed drops to 8km/h during braking, the kinetic energy recovery will automatically exit, and only the mechanical brake will continue to work, and the car will nod.
@@kindness-villain Hey thanks for reply. You sound like the guy who wrote the owners manual
Sam himself reported BYDs coming to Oz with rust in panels of new cars. Who makes cars without galvanized metal these days? BYD evidently. My point was that 600km road tests show very little about the longevity and quality of a product; even crash tests will be of the best of the vehices they make; they are not going to submit vehicles with missing welds for example when perhaps 20% of the vehicles they sell to the public are getting out with such terrible flaws - this is due to a massive lack of QA in chinese car makers part look up Statistical Quality control or Deming and you'll see why Japanese companies have risen to be the top quality brands.
Chery is currently selling very low quality in Mexico, the omoda are the worst, transmission, engine, electrical issues and dealerships aren't able to fix them
The software is still in beta, this is why they are many issue.
I know you don't like NIO's CEO, but could you give an honest review on ONVO?
Sam's confused: Kids, Chemo, Jet lag....Try again..or disregard.
Sam, you just busted a cherry!
They probably gave you the car to test and tell them where all the bug bears are .
All the models that Chery sells have been tested on the road for millions of kilometers. Moreover, Omoda E5 is not the first electric model produced by Chery. It has more than ten years of experience in the research and development and production of electric vehicles. I think the questions raised by Viking are because they do not fully understand the characteristics of the model and have not communicated with Chery engineers. They are all very subjective.
Pickups in your country look weird!😮
lol i thought you typed Chevy
If you use the car while charging, the charging speed will be reduced!😅
I'm sorry but you're understanding of regen breaking is incorrect.
When you apply the brakes you are taking manual control of the regen breaking as illustrated on the plus minus power meter.
Brake pads don't apply until regen brake not adequate.
Are you talking about this particular car?
@@paulc6766The kinetic energy recovery system of Chery Automobile adopts Bosch IPB system. Due to the major safety hazards of single pedal mode, Chery prohibits the use of it. The intensity of energy recovery can be controlled by the pedaling force in the front part of the brake pedal travel. The mechanical brake pad will only intervene when the brake pedal travel enters the middle part.
The key problem with short reviews even 600 miles - is it tells you nothing about the build quality and longevity of the vehicle.Example: Chinese makers are under pressure to use chinese made bearings - so? So they are not durable; China is unable to make the high quality steel and bearings that help make a car last. In 600 miles; you would hope you would not need parts or service - is there any? Many new Chinese brands have zero service stations or parts for repair them with; so you can't evaluate their service. Even Tesla has very limited repair and parts capabiity. It's like trying to judge a book by it's cover - you can't judge the key matters.
You know nothing about Chinese cars. The bearings used in Chery cars are all provided by nsk and skf The body frame, which is very important for car safety, uses more than 80% hot-formed steel and high-strength steel, and is provided by Germany's Benteler. The paint automatic spraying equipment is from Germany's Durr, and the body paint is supplied by DuPont.
@@kindness-villain I'll accept that - go and list the chinese BEV companies that use German bearings - it will be a very short list wont it?
In my country chinese car has been around for 6 to 7 years. And no problem within that period. Chery engine also has 10 years or 1mio km of warranty here. Lots of my friends are happy with their chery.
@@hadisoewoyo8739 Im not really addressing BYD or Chery except for BEVs - Chery and BYD make cars other than BeVs - plusCherry isn't public so you can't tell if it makes any money. They are considering going public and having stock. China made this problem. It gave 1/3 Trillion to incentivise new BEV companies. They initially had 500 BeV startups and still have 100. These are dragging down Chinese car quality in general but bEVs specifically because they are trying to survive by low price cutting every corner to try and survive - very bad situation for all.
I would not want an EV if flooding comes back as it did in Brisbane a few years back.
This has been highlighted by the recent hurricanes in America.
Burnt out EVs everywhere.
You might be totally wrong. A proper seal EV is more water proofing than patrol cars. Check the BYD yang wang U8, it can floating on the river.
So you are willing to sit in a metal box with an 800-volt power pack under your seat sitting in water.
It was worse when storm surges brought salt water into contact with the battery. Also several cases of people drowning in submerged EVs due to door locks not functioning. One was a Tesla in America that reversed into a pond on a ranch. A female driver sadly died.
@@squishedfrog99-gp4qqno way would I buy one of those things, sticking with my ICE V8 thx.
Luke combs yay
I know what's wrong, the steering wheel is on the wrong side.
Come with FULL Spare Tyre!!
This is why I'm glad you guys (in AU) can beta test the Chinese cars, it will take them years to get the details to work, like Tesla needed years to get the car features like parking assist and all the other stuff that needed to get better.
#cancerawareness month . just a reminder .. Carcinogenesis begins right Here,,, Why are so many young non-smokers getting cancer? The main toxins found in vehicle exhaust include: carbon monoxide (CO), nitrogen oxides (NOx), particulate matter (PM), benzene, formaldehyde, hydrocarbons, and depending on the fuel type, some levels of sulfur dioxide, with carbon monoxide being considered the most significant toxic component in exhaust fumes.
The car looks like a toy with you crammed in.
This is not a finished product. This is the fear I personally have about point to point Chinese cars. Chinese cars should be sold through established brands like Toyota and Nissan. The way Buick and Volvo are doing. Those companies can fine tune and weed out problems like re-gen. They will also provide an established service network.
After fine tuning the Chinese brands can stand on their own.
Cars like this are going to give the Chinese a bad reputation.
Driving into people's backyard and pool. Lol
This car flopped in China for a reason, which is likely why the manufacturer is now targeting markets outside of China.
Please show.
@FrankiePo89 The Chery Omoda 5, introduced in China in the second quarter of 2022, has experienced varying sales figures over the past two years. In 2022, a total of 8,258 units were sold. However, in 2023, sales declined to 3,538 units.
In May 2024, Chery reported a significant increase in sales, reaching 188,556 vehicles globally, a 35.5% year-on-year rise. Of these, 92,481 units were exported.
While specific sales figures for the Omoda 5 in May 2024 are not detailed, the overall growth indicates a positive trend for Chery's vehicle lineup.
@@JJ20182
Yes, I've read up on their sales increased. Withstanding the EV competitions in China itself is just crazy and not for the faint hearted.
@FrankiePo89 Exactly, that's my point-while the Omoda might do well in markets outside China, it is clearly not equipped to withstand the intense competition in China's automotive market.
@@JJ20182因为奇瑞在中国市场有更优秀的车型进行竞争，比如全铝合金车身的icar 03就比omoda e好得多。更不用说星途、星纪元这些用料、品质更好的车型了。
Did you just dox yourself with that map :(
It sounds like you will be lucky to own a Tesla in 2025.
Sam, How is wife?
You should checkout mahindra BE 06 ev
High-mileage electric car usage is working out almost twice as expensive as petrol
What’s promised isn’t always what you get with electric cars - my 11,000 miles in Ford Mustang Mach-E proved it’s far from an EV panacea
This is the headline from one of the Telegraphs writers.
And even better, he would rather drive his Honda Civic Type R since it is more efficient and better on the highway than an EV.
Oh and EV owners in the UK are being told not to use portable heaters in their EVs since they lose so much range in the freezing cold.
Gas wins again.
And gas won't win in the cities when the no-entry kicks in.
@ not here it won’t. And most cities around the world realize that so they won’t be bringing that in either.
And think about it, if delivery companies can’t get into the city, how fast will they and those companies that rely on them pack up and leave the city?
It’s already happening in Toronto and other major cities, how fast will those cities stop with those bans?
They can’t survive without those businesses and delivery companies
I can’t speak to your exact circumstances but here in Australia I’ve done 48,000 km of mostly freeway driving in 18 months in a Tesla model y. Lifetime usage is 162wh per kilometre which works out at $4.20 per 100km or about 1/4 the cost of fueling a similar size car. Superchargers work out at about $9 per 100km which is still cheap. Tyres cost a little more but I have saved a lot on service costs.
I would be wary of media reports as one can structure a test to achieve any outcome desired. Here in Australia the daily mail did a test using one of the worst ev available and compared it a diesel version of the same and also didn’t have access to the only comprehensive fast charging network and complained about slow charging and excessive electricity usage. I was rather impressed at the amount of research they would have done to find the outcome they were looking for. The only issue being having done the research they would have been fully aware of dishonest nature of the story being told.
@ last December a news reporter from Chicago wanted to see his daughter in New York City and he took a model Y. A coworker went with him to document the travel and charging time.
He recorded the Tesla was lying about the full charge.
He would spend an hour at the Tesla charging stations along the way and the car never got the estimated range. It was always half of what it said. 300 miles, he would travel 150 on a full charge.
200 miles, he would travel 100 miles on the full charge.
It took them an extra day to get to New York City. Absolute crap of a vehicle. It shows Tesla is not a car manufacturer but a software manufacturer.
@@kevinW826
So the westerners keeping the city clean brouhaha are just a farce? They've spent so much of your taxpayers money all for nothing? Are you fuming and did you bring it up to your representative?
Stick with Tesla. Chinese ev brands are inferior in every aspect. The price differences are insignificant. Consider that the model Y is proven as the safest vehicle and reliable.
Little do you know many Tesla is actually made in China.
Why would uass and eu be afraid of an "inferior" product and have to counter it with extreme tariffs?
Have you driven the chery exeed sterra et or the huawei luxeed r7? do you have any evidence that the tesla model y is better than them?
well how boring
Викинги превратились в попрошаек. Не дело это для викинга - пытаться пиарить китайское тофу-барахло. И Тесла скоро закроется. Ищи нормальную работу.
lol "feels plastiky" hhhhhhh, you added new word to dictionary! love your imagination with language.
This is not a finished product. This is the fear I personally have about point to point Chinese cars. Chinese cars should be sold through established brands like Toyota and Nissan. The way Buick and Volvo are doing. Those companies can fine tune and weed out problems like re-gen. They will also provide an established service network.
After fine tuning the Chinese brands can stand on their own.
Cars like this are going to give the Chinese a bad reputation.