Statement from Isuzu on Check Engine Light: “the Check Engine Light was an alert to the fact that a Diesel Particulate Diffuser (our version of a DPF) regen was not completed. Due to the fact that the car was sitting around in the holding yard for weeks and was frequently started and driven for a short moment around the yard just to get to other cars, we believe that the DPD would have done its job by collecting particulate matter but would not have the operating temperature to complete the regen. When you ended up taking delivery of the vehicle and drove it for an extended period of time, the vehicle would’ve completed that regen once the vehicle reached operating temp, but the Check Engine Light would’ve remained prompting the driver to visit an Isuzu UTE Service Centre for a system check.” So, as expected! Glad it wasn’t anything more 😊
😂 😂😂 Yeah right champ. My uncle absolutely ear bashed me about the MUX. Two weeks later he found out that he could use our Ford discount and now he could afford the Everest. You reckon he talked about the MUX for 1 more second.... nah
First off, I have to say that I love these reviews, fun, funny and honest (if a bit misguided). But I have to pick you up on a couple of things - every MU-X review bangs on about “old technology” and the 6-speed transmission being “well below par where the benchmark is a 10-speed” etc. when the simple fact is, old technology is another way of saying “tried and tested”. There’s a reason they put this engine and transmission in the new BT-50, and that’s because the “new technology” of the variable oil pump in the Ford Ranger engines and the poxy transmission they were coupled to, made both the Mazda and the Ford unreliable. All the Ford fans will point to the sales figures, and that’s fine, but reliability is important when you’re going off road. And before the Toyota owners start (again), I’ve just spent 6 agonising, detestable years in a Fortuner, with its intrusively noisy engine, it’s (twice replaced in mine) useless transmission, it’s DPF issues and it’s underpowered (did I mention intrusively noisy) engine. The consistent air flow meter issues that sent it into limp home mode and the hideously uncomfortable interior meant it wasn’t even a comfortable place to wait for a tow truck. Hands down the worst car I ever owned and I only kept it 6 years because I was going to lose so much on it to sell it. Horrendous, end of story. So Toyota owners who think Toyotas are still reliable are living in the past. Thats the 90’s and early 2000’s. The “old technology” Isuzu is streets ahead of the Fortuner for reliability. The transmission in the new Ford is also plagued with issues, so the commenter who said that Ford reliability issues were a thing of the past, sorry, you’re wrong. Now back to this review - issues with the size of the infotainment screen? Comparing it to the size of the Ford screen? No electric tailgate? Neither of these things matter in real life. In your driveway or in the middle of nowhere, a car that starts when you need it to start is what matters. Would I take a 6 speed transmission over and CVT ever built, or any supposedly more sophisticated 10-speed box? Absolutely. Does anyone buy a 4wd for its zero to 100 speed? I hope not, because you’re going to be sadly disappointed. A touch charger for your phone? Eh, I can plug it in, it’s certainly not a hill I’d die on. People are looking at the Isuzu because it’s reliable, not because it has hooks to hang your shopping on. It needs to get me back from where I’m going to, I didn’t appreciate the paddle shift on my Fortuner, I’d rather it didn’t go into limp-home mode on a dusty road. I don’t want 4 extra gears and a great quarter-mile time if it means the transmission self-combusts before I get 100,000kms out of it. I watched your review, I read the comments, then I went and bought an Isuzu because none of the “negatives” offered in this review were actual negatives…..oh, and mine came with a stupid electric tailgate, for those too lazy to open it themselves.
Love all the Toyota fanboys in the comments. You do know there are other cars other than Toyota that are actually decent cars…. Just a thought all you fan boys
Mate toyota owners are another league. Its funny how they have to justify owning a toyota and convincing others as well if supposebly the brand is that good it speaks for itself.
I’m not a Toyota fan boy but there’s a reason why Toyota has good reputation when it comes to such cars otherwise I’d take a gle or an x5 off-roading. At the moment the Prado and Everest are above every other car in their class. The fortune isn’t bad tbh and is better than the Mu-X. I don’t gate the hate he has towards it
@@cmelft2463the brand literally speaks for itself look at the sales. A Toyota would outlive all of these cars and can do anything these cars can do maybe even better. At the end of the day it really is the persons preference
@@BrianChiedo Not denying that toyota is a good brand but sales is mostly due to worldwide sales, the fact that their cheaper end (corrolla, yaris) are cheaper to own compared to other brands due to them still being pretty basic (a lot of other companies are filling their cars with all sorts of tech). Dont forget toyota sales in "not so good" countrys. All add up to increased sales numbers. My point was, if the name speaks for itself (which is does) its very odd that toyota owners are still so defensive over them I have multiple friends with both the latest Prado and Ford Everest - neither have had issues but its hard to deny the ford comes with a lot more luxuries that the toyota fans keep ignoring putting down to the tired old "more stuff to fail" trope. My final point is that toyota owners Should be expecting more from the brand as they are lagging behind the rest all based on the fact they keep their tech the same and the fanboys dont want to admit it
@@cmelft2463 I mean the older generation of Prado has been around for over a decade so ofc it’s going to be a little outdated but the new Prado that is yet to be produced seems to be on par with the Everest in terms of technology and luxury. I think Toyota has upped its game in the past few years. Their cars are starting to have things that most European manufacturers have. Toyotas usually didn’t have soft touch areas but most models if not all have soft touch on the door and dash and the cars come with apple car play. Again I’m not a fanboy but I’m trying to be as objective as possible. So yea you could say that for older Toyota models but the new ones eg. Prado now have nearly the same features as its European competitors. So the reliability argument seems fair but it can’t be used to excuse their past overuse of cheap materials.
Still the best car in class. Everest’s have been plagued with issues for years and even the new ones are already having issues and the Mitsi’s are too small inside for a family. Little things you pointed out like the steering wheel and the incandescent blinkers are actually good things, I’m a truck driver who’s racked up quite literally a few million kilometres in my time and they are actually both great features to have. Steering wheels wear out, I’ve worn through a few, plastic is a nice thing because it will last longer. Also the incandescent blinkers are an absolute god send. I honestly can not think of a feature I get more angry at as a truck driver more than LED blinkers, purely for the fact that you can’t see them from any angle other than straight on… the amount of times I’ve had to slam on the brakes because a car has turned in front of me or at a roundabout or what not because I couldn’t see a blinker is uncountable. Both those things are benefits of lessons learned from a truck manufacturer making a SUV not a car brand making it. Looks are important but functionality even more so. Also as a lifelong 4WDer I can honestly say the Isuzu wins on every front, my holidays consist of loading the family and hooking up the camper trailer and heading bush, whether it be the Vic High Country, the Simpson Desert, Cape York or even a local State Forest and I can tell you the Isuzu will win hands down every time. In that environment I don’t want fancy constant 4WD or highly strung engines, the Isuzu’s 4jj3 engine is legendary reliability and the part time 4WD is exactly the perfect choice. It’s the joys of having a car that is built by one of the worlds best truck manufacturers, it’s all stress free, that engine will go for 500,000km easily because it’s capable of so much more but is so detuned for production which is also why they respond so well to a custom dyno tune. And by being a longer running model all the bugs are worked out, the early gearbox issues, gone, the constant dpf issues, gone (lol check engine aside but any car will have issues sitting for months), the cracking inner guards, gone, all issues that have been redesigned and fixed… No Ford Everest can say that. I am completely confident to head to the desert for weeks at a time in the MUX. An Everest or Sport or Fortuner, sorry but you miss the mark.
You forgot to mention that if you buy an Everest then you have to go to a Ford service department where you will be treated like shit. I know that first hand.
The Everests are actually quite decent, their adaptive cruise control is better and the lack of an all time 4WD in the MU-X is not good. In the desert they all do pretty well
I have had my Isuzu LSM for 18 months now, cant fault it at all. This my second Isuzu Mux i have owned. For the price and features you get i would go out and buy another one any day of the week.
I have had mine since May 2023 and I love it, I was in a Nissan Pathfinder for over 12 years and this Isuzu is brilliant. I found it hard to defect. Certainly not a speed machine but I didn't buy it for that. The staff at Isuzu where brilliant to deal with and I totally recommend
After 3 new transmissions and a new engine the everest isnt too bad and for a higher price point and less reliability its a no brainer...... as in you would have no brain to buy one :)
Amazing off road performance. I'm so impressed with mine. Off road with 6wk old, 2yro and 10yro and my partner. Went to waterfalls and lookouts on trails. Only complaint is the seat is the most painful I've ever sat on. Slightly better after a year. Never had such a sore tailbone as I get on long drives. It's comparative to hard plastic seating on the tailbone.
You can’t compare a truck company with 3-4 generations of SUVs with Ford and Toyota mate! Ford and Toyota are only just upping their game now after how many years of dated interiors and mechanical issues (ford still have them)!! Isuzu has jumped leaps and bounds from their 1st to 3rd Gen MUX. This is such a try hard review, head over to CarExpert for the good stuff
I’d forgive some of its flaws for reliability as a build for 4WD touring in Oz. I’d buy one for that. Would I buy one as a daily 7 seater? No. That’d be a Mazda CX8 or Kia Sorento.
16:53 back in August/Sep we did a 10,000km caravan holiday from Brizzy to Darwin then to Townsville with a 2000kg ATM Caravan in tow. The Brizzy to Darwin bit was with the van always connected, so about 3000kms, we didn’t take it off and the 2021 MUX LST fuel economy according to the onboard trip computer was 13.8lt/100km, so roughly about 500km per 80lt tank. As a comparison when we do country driving without he van, the fuel economy is about 7.2 to 7.6lt/100km, so the van almost doubled our fuel usage.
Pretty over rated car, drove one and immediately thought - we haven't moved the bar very far at all, this is a 10 year old car in the way it presents feels and drives. Meh.
Very unlikely to buy one as it is more about advertising than a better vehicle. The thing that really bugs me is all the hype of how reliable it is when there is ample evidence to the contrary. also that engine is not new it has some new parts and the DPF issue is an engine issue as the engine causes it. Also the hot transmission issue. I feel like this is a 2023 price for a 1998 car.
Went for a test drive, was okay... but I felt the inside was werid... like the head space was crowded and the dash up in the air... dunno didnt like it. Outside looks good! This is coming from a new mazda cx5 person btw. Was entertaining the thought of one of these etc.
Don’t worry Jacob - you’re still young and have a lot to learn - the Toyota Fortuner is by far the better vehicle across most criteria than the Isuzu or Ford SUVs with the very capable good value Mitsubishi a close second - Isuzu fail on some steep tracks ascents, Ford have their typical reliability issues - yes my Hilux has the dreaded DPF anomaly but I will still choose a Toyota for getting me out there and back with confidence but if I was on a budget the Pajero Sport with its impressive Super Select 4WD system, good reliability and impressive off-road ability would win hands down.
Unfortunately yet another uneducated response. Inform all of us what exactly are the problems you allege with the new generation Ford Everest that would make it spend more time at a dealers rather than your house? Apart from a small batch that had a POTENTIAL issue with inadvertent braking at 6 kph, nothing else has come to light and they have now been around for 12 plus months. Do your homework rather than being a hater of any other brand than the one you own.
I drove the Fortuna but I've been stung with reliability issues with my Mitsy, so I'm researching & ultra sensitive to potential reliability issues. I don't like the new Toyota 2.8L 1-GD FTV engine that's in there. They've tried to lighten the engine components so it runs faster & pumps out more power but is more 'efficient'. You can see a video of the old KD engine vs the new GD engine on YT...The camrods are half the size/thinner (600g lighter) & are prone to bending. They viscous fan hub loses silicone oil & causes overheating. Need to catch it in time. They're trying to meet emissions & avoid the DPF issues of the older KD engine by sticking a 5th injector in there to dump fuel to promote burn off. Additionally, the Fortuna is a bit dated and is due for an update. The Mitsy is another issue. Mine was a solid 4wd but started having overheating issues at
6:15 when I bought mine (LST model) all that beeping when you walked away without locking, or when doors opened annoyed me, however I found out that in that small MID behind the steering wheel you could disable all of them, so I did, soooo peaceful now.
Doors don’t automatically lock themselves after starting a journey. Have to remember to manually lock the doors when starting every journey. This feature should be fitted in a vehicle for security these days to prevent being hijacked
@maxspeed30 not sure what part of the world you live in, I live in Australia, thank god the MUX doesn’t auto lock the door. As well as a new MUX, I’ve also got a 2016 Hyundai Accent, and that auto door locking in it gives me the $#1+$ every damn time I wanna open the door while the car is still on.
Just a comment on every review of MUX and Everest, no one mentions that the Everest needs AD-BLUE - one more thing to go wrong and extra cost of running. Come reviewers, how about stepping up to the mark and make this point. I personally wouldn't buy a vehicle with ad-blue, I would rather have a petrol version!
Difficult to fill with diesel at the pumps. Think the tank breather pipe is too small or tank pipe too small. Trigger on pump nozzle keeps tripping out all the time. Have to just about remove the nozzle al the way out. Then when finished filling some fuel gurgles out and runs down the bodywork and makes a mess. Shouldn’t be like this on my top spec MUX
I have a 2022 Prado as a personal car and a new Isuzu MUX as a work vehicle so I get to jump between the two every day. The MUX probably has better electronics, feels a bit punchier and more nimble than the Prado, but that tinny sound when you close the door (you can even hear it in this video), the jittery handling and the instrument cluster from a Playstation game lets you know it is not a real SUV but a converted ute.
I got an mux. First thing i got disappointed by was the underwhelming power from a 3.0. Next, steering is heavy But for its price, i love the interior because its a collab between mazda. There seems to be some issues with the brake hold. But damn, the power and feel was a big let down for what it is
Door mirrors don’t fold in when locking the car on the remote. Have to manually fold the door mirrors in then get out and lock the car. Even an old 8 year old Tucson has this feature
Mate in all honeslty if you had the choice out of 3 suvs which one would up own? The gwm tank300 ford Everest ambiente or the mux lsu? These are the option I'm looking at but can't decided
i have current mux lst, Even though most reports comment on its good ride quality i find it is ruff on small sharp bumps all most as if it has bad body mounts or maybe just shock absorber probelm. it is allmost soft ride on larger bumps and undulations but little bumps it is annoying and gives me a sore neck. has anybody else noticed this ? cheers to you guys
My older Mazda BT 50 is the same.Really bad for that when towing too.Anything more than 60km I end up with a horrible neck/headache.I much prefer driving my old 2005 Commodore.
Drivers door mirror folds in with a bang when a truck goes past and towing a caravan / boat at 100km/h and using the small clip on towing mirrors. Obviously never tested towing a caravan in Australia using mirror extensions. Had to jam my door mirror fixed open.
Purchased the 2022 Mitsubishi Pajero sport GLS sold it after 14 months of shit and Mitsubishi couldn’t solve the issues. No guts in towing. Going back to Isuzu.
Be very interested to see how that goes? …you may need that defibrillator. Not that parts costs would be extravagant, but I’m sure you’ll be needing them nonetheless.
we don't get any of them in the U.S. $38,400 us $ not much in that price range for a true off roader with a low range lot of soft roaders cx50, rav 4 , crv any thing good is $50k us
@@CathodeRayNipplez easy with those six guns there Tex, your trigger is a little hairy Considering the Scorpio directly competes with this and all the other vehicles featured in this video and is even mentioned in their description ...... I guess them wordz can be difficult for some people to readz if they ain't got the schoolin'
Hey Sauce Man, you seem somewhat underwhelmed by the Mux's performance, I believe you bought one of the exciting new Ford Ranger v6 beasts. how's that working out for you??
Ive had my LST for 6 months. Very happy with it, but it's super sluggish. Sometimes i think theres something wrong like the tyres are flat, it just doesnt like rolling forwaed. I went to a 4wd adventure park with a new top of the line Ranger and they were having trouble with clearance and struggling a bit, where as the mux had no issues at all.
Isuzu are trying to follow Toyota on the path of “old” tested reliability… problem is, Isuzu have been behind for years!! Their design and engineering can’t compete against todays market.
You can’t compare a truck company with 3-4 generations of SUVs with Ford and Toyota mate! Ford and Toyota are only just upping their game now after how many years of dated interiors and mechanical issues (ford still have them)!! Isuzu has jumped leaps and bounds from their 1st to 3rd Gen MUX
I will not buy this mux after seeing your review. You nailed it to convinced me. Hope others will do the same. Hope you keep it brutally honest so that we will not buy this kind of vehicle.
Your chanel has stopped me buying pretty much every car I was looking at for my family, no faith in any of these cars after your reviews , I’ll just stick to my 2000 Corolla
Isuzu servicing is generally expensive. We owned the 2018 MuX and its not cheap. But i guess with the 15,000km service interval its better than the Fortuner which maintains a 10,000km interval. Having owned both, the Fortuner is cheaper to service
15000km is too long between services for a modern diesel if you want to it to last. Watch a deconstruction video after failure, they get incredibly sooty inside. Manufacturers don’t want your vehicle to last.
First off, I like the channel.👍 You would think the people giving you the car, would be trying to put their best foot forward and give you a vehicle without the engine ligh on. What would be a great 0 to 100 for this size and type of vehicle.. I would think the awd is a direct trade off for the great fuel efficiency, Do you guys ever do a 2 vehicle side by side comparisons. Keep tickling each other's pickles🫴🥒
The company I work for bought heaps when they came out. I'm not a fan and yes, a few have already been to the dealer for issues. Also, it's way over priced for such a plasticky techless interior.
Fortuner looks so old and Toyota's reliability isn't what it was on the past worst Dpf problems then any other also bad quality paint jobs and 1 of the worst ride in thus segment
Seriously you guys, the Fortuner rates above MUX, Mitsi easily. Arguably has some better features than Everest (reliability especially). MUX just doesn't have enough go.
Young man, get on top of your trade first. If you cannot even pronounce the name, why should we listen to you blabbing on? It is pronounced MEW-EX. I constantly have to educate influencers and journos. Next time, first learn your trade before rushing out to join the boys for a VB. I came out top of the class by doing my homework while others played. Immature journalism is disrespect to the audience. Get your act together. Please.
Mate grow up, who cares! Everyone in Australia Pronounces It like MU-X, not “MEW-X” so talk to everyone in Australia if you have such a huge problem with the pronunciation of the MU-X, like generally Grow Up!!
No one cares if you got top of your class, and why did you say “immature” just because he can have fun with his life and make jokes!! If you think thats “immature” you must have a boring life!
Everest infotainment is waaaaaay to big and clunky. Older school heaters and a screen a bit bigger than the MUX is the go. Aka Toyota 👏 We dont want permanent 4wd as to expensive for maintenance and fuel economy. Selectable 4wd drives fine. Everest fuel economy is crap
Pajero and Everest have selectable 4wd that can be used on sealed roads which means it can also be driven in 2wd. A good safety feature on wet roads and hard dirt. The MUX cannot. It has a drive system that is decade's old.
Statement from Isuzu on Check Engine Light:
“the Check Engine Light was an alert to the fact that a Diesel Particulate Diffuser (our version of a DPF) regen was not completed.
Due to the fact that the car was sitting around in the holding yard for weeks and was frequently started and driven for a short moment around the yard just to get to other cars, we believe that the DPD would have done its job by collecting particulate matter but would not have the operating temperature to complete the regen. When you ended up taking delivery of the vehicle and drove it for an extended period of time, the vehicle would’ve completed that regen once the vehicle reached operating temp, but the Check Engine Light would’ve remained prompting the driver to visit an Isuzu UTE Service Centre for a system check.”
So, as expected! Glad it wasn’t anything more 😊
Isuzu 💪
every time i get in my MUX i'm comforted by the fact that i didn't get a ford everest
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Total agree, that 4j engine is one of the best diesel motors ever made in my opinion
Think of the money you saved with the mux
😂 😂😂 Yeah right champ. My uncle absolutely ear bashed me about the MUX. Two weeks later he found out that he could use our Ford discount and now he could afford the Everest. You reckon he talked about the MUX for 1 more second.... nah
First off, I have to say that I love these reviews, fun, funny and honest (if a bit misguided). But I have to pick you up on a couple of things - every MU-X review bangs on about “old technology” and the 6-speed transmission being “well below par where the benchmark is a 10-speed” etc. when the simple fact is, old technology is another way of saying “tried and tested”. There’s a reason they put this engine and transmission in the new BT-50, and that’s because the “new technology” of the variable oil pump in the Ford Ranger engines and the poxy transmission they were coupled to, made both the Mazda and the Ford unreliable.
All the Ford fans will point to the sales figures, and that’s fine, but reliability is important when you’re going off road. And before the Toyota owners start (again), I’ve just spent 6 agonising, detestable years in a Fortuner, with its intrusively noisy engine, it’s (twice replaced in mine) useless transmission, it’s DPF issues and it’s underpowered (did I mention intrusively noisy) engine. The consistent air flow meter issues that sent it into limp home mode and the hideously uncomfortable interior meant it wasn’t even a comfortable place to wait for a tow truck. Hands down the worst car I ever owned and I only kept it 6 years because I was going to lose so much on it to sell it. Horrendous, end of story. So Toyota owners who think Toyotas are still reliable are living in the past. Thats the 90’s and early 2000’s.
The “old technology” Isuzu is streets ahead of the Fortuner for reliability. The transmission in the new Ford is also plagued with issues, so the commenter who said that Ford reliability issues were a thing of the past, sorry, you’re wrong.
Now back to this review - issues with the size of the infotainment screen? Comparing it to the size of the Ford screen? No electric tailgate? Neither of these things matter in real life. In your driveway or in the middle of nowhere, a car that starts when you need it to start is what matters. Would I take a 6 speed transmission over and CVT ever built, or any supposedly more sophisticated 10-speed box? Absolutely. Does anyone buy a 4wd for its zero to 100 speed? I hope not, because you’re going to be sadly disappointed. A touch charger for your phone? Eh, I can plug it in, it’s certainly not a hill I’d die on.
People are looking at the Isuzu because it’s reliable, not because it has hooks to hang your shopping on. It needs to get me back from where I’m going to, I didn’t appreciate the paddle shift on my Fortuner, I’d rather it didn’t go into limp-home mode on a dusty road. I don’t want 4 extra gears and a great quarter-mile time if it means the transmission self-combusts before I get 100,000kms out of it.
I watched your review, I read the comments, then I went and bought an Isuzu because none of the “negatives” offered in this review were actual negatives…..oh, and mine came with a stupid electric tailgate, for those too lazy to open it themselves.
Very well said my friend I currently have a 2018 triton,and have be3n he king out suvs,and to my way of thinking and what's good for me is the isusu.
Superb post. I've been wondering which one to buy. It'll be the Isuzu for definite now. Thanks.
A better review than the reviewers and all without the helium induced voice box. 👌
You summed up everything that makes Isuzu better than that 'more advanced' competition.
@@TheJimmythecorkscrew I'm getting an Isuzu V-Cross pickup soon in Thailand. New.
Love all the Toyota fanboys in the comments. You do know there are other cars other than Toyota that are actually decent cars…. Just a thought all you fan boys
Mate toyota owners are another league. Its funny how they have to justify owning a toyota and convincing others as well if supposebly the brand is that good it speaks for itself.
I’m not a Toyota fan boy but there’s a reason why Toyota has good reputation when it comes to such cars otherwise I’d take a gle or an x5 off-roading. At the moment the Prado and Everest are above every other car in their class. The fortune isn’t bad tbh and is better than the Mu-X. I don’t gate the hate he has towards it
@@cmelft2463the brand literally speaks for itself look at the sales. A Toyota would outlive all of these cars and can do anything these cars can do maybe even better. At the end of the day it really is the persons preference
@@BrianChiedo Not denying that toyota is a good brand but sales is mostly due to worldwide sales, the fact that their cheaper end (corrolla, yaris) are cheaper to own compared to other brands due to them still being pretty basic (a lot of other companies are filling their cars with all sorts of tech).
Dont forget toyota sales in "not so good" countrys. All add up to increased sales numbers.
My point was, if the name speaks for itself (which is does) its very odd that toyota owners are still so defensive over them
I have multiple friends with both the latest Prado and Ford Everest - neither have had issues but its hard to deny the ford comes with a lot more luxuries that the toyota fans keep ignoring putting down to the tired old "more stuff to fail" trope.
My final point is that toyota owners Should be expecting more from the brand as they are lagging behind the rest all based on the fact they keep their tech the same and the fanboys dont want to admit it
@@cmelft2463 I mean the older generation of Prado has been around for over a decade so ofc it’s going to be a little outdated but the new Prado that is yet to be produced seems to be on par with the Everest in terms of technology and luxury. I think Toyota has upped its game in the past few years. Their cars are starting to have things that most European manufacturers have. Toyotas usually didn’t have soft touch areas but most models if not all have soft touch on the door and dash and the cars come with apple car play. Again I’m not a fanboy but I’m trying to be as objective as possible.
So yea you could say that for older Toyota models but the new ones eg. Prado now have nearly the same features as its European competitors. So the reliability argument seems fair but it can’t be used to excuse their past overuse of cheap materials.
Still the best car in class.
Everest’s have been plagued with issues for years and even the new ones are already having issues and the Mitsi’s are too small inside for a family.
Little things you pointed out like the steering wheel and the incandescent blinkers are actually good things, I’m a truck driver who’s racked up quite literally a few million kilometres in my time and they are actually both great features to have. Steering wheels wear out, I’ve worn through a few, plastic is a nice thing because it will last longer. Also the incandescent blinkers are an absolute god send. I honestly can not think of a feature I get more angry at as a truck driver more than LED blinkers, purely for the fact that you can’t see them from any angle other than straight on… the amount of times I’ve had to slam on the brakes because a car has turned in front of me or at a roundabout or what not because I couldn’t see a blinker is uncountable.
Both those things are benefits of lessons learned from a truck manufacturer making a SUV not a car brand making it.
Looks are important but functionality even more so.
Also as a lifelong 4WDer I can honestly say the Isuzu wins on every front, my holidays consist of loading the family and hooking up the camper trailer and heading bush, whether it be the Vic High Country, the Simpson Desert, Cape York or even a local State Forest and I can tell you the Isuzu will win hands down every time.
In that environment I don’t want fancy constant 4WD or highly strung engines, the Isuzu’s 4jj3 engine is legendary reliability and the part time 4WD is exactly the perfect choice.
It’s the joys of having a car that is built by one of the worlds best truck manufacturers, it’s all stress free, that engine will go for 500,000km easily because it’s capable of so much more but is so detuned for production which is also why they respond so well to a custom dyno tune.
And by being a longer running model all the bugs are worked out, the early gearbox issues, gone, the constant dpf issues, gone (lol check engine aside but any car will have issues sitting for months), the cracking inner guards, gone, all issues that have been redesigned and fixed… No Ford Everest can say that.
I am completely confident to head to the desert for weeks at a time in the MUX.
An Everest or Sport or Fortuner, sorry but you miss the mark.
Well said!
Now I understand why the car manufactures use incandescent 0:46 lights for blinkers. Good point mate.
Check engine light is on at 16:57, just saying.
You forgot to mention that if you buy an Everest then you have to go to a Ford service department where you will be treated like shit. I know that first hand.
The Everests are actually quite decent, their adaptive cruise control is better and the lack of an all time 4WD in the MU-X is not good. In the desert they all do pretty well
I have had my Isuzu LSM for 18 months now, cant fault it at all. This my second Isuzu Mux i have owned. For the price and features you get i would go out and buy another one any day of the week.
How’s the reliability? Is the DPF giving you any headaches like some reviewers mentioned? How long do you have to drive it for it to regenerate?
@HS-fk2of no problems with the DFP, I live in the country so heaps of highway ks. It's doing a DPF burn about every 800/1000k
@@HS-fk2ofI’ve had my MUX now for 10mths 10000kms and hasn’t done a DPF burn yet, far better then the DPF issues I had in my 2015 SR5 Hilux
I have had mine since May 2023 and I love it, I was in a Nissan Pathfinder for over 12 years and this Isuzu is brilliant. I found it hard to defect. Certainly not a speed machine but I didn't buy it for that. The staff at Isuzu where brilliant to deal with and I totally recommend
Made by a Truck manufacturer its built to last. Not like all the others.
That’s what these wankers don’t consider
After 3 new transmissions and a new engine the everest isnt too bad and for a higher price point and less reliability its a no brainer...... as in you would have no brain to buy one :)
Ford unreliable
Toyota cracked pistons
Izuzu reliable
Amazing off road performance. I'm so impressed with mine. Off road with 6wk old, 2yro and 10yro and my partner. Went to waterfalls and lookouts on trails. Only complaint is the seat is the most painful I've ever sat on. Slightly better after a year. Never had such a sore tailbone as I get on long drives. It's comparative to hard plastic seating on the tailbone.
You can’t compare a truck company with 3-4 generations of SUVs with Ford and Toyota mate! Ford and Toyota are only just upping their game now after how many years of dated interiors and mechanical issues (ford still have them)!! Isuzu has jumped leaps and bounds from their 1st to 3rd Gen MUX. This is such a try hard review, head over to CarExpert for the good stuff
I 100% agree everybody has to listen to this man
I’d forgive some of its flaws for reliability as a build for 4WD touring in Oz. I’d buy one for that. Would I buy one as a daily 7 seater? No. That’d be a Mazda CX8 or Kia Sorento.
16:53 back in August/Sep we did a 10,000km caravan holiday from Brizzy to Darwin then to Townsville with a 2000kg ATM Caravan in tow. The Brizzy to Darwin bit was with the van always connected, so about 3000kms, we didn’t take it off and the 2021 MUX LST fuel economy according to the onboard trip computer was 13.8lt/100km, so roughly about 500km per 80lt tank. As a comparison when we do country driving without he van, the fuel economy is about 7.2 to 7.6lt/100km, so the van almost doubled our fuel usage.
Pretty over rated car, drove one and immediately thought - we haven't moved the bar very far at all, this is a 10 year old car in the way it presents feels and drives. Meh.
I thought the same. Ordered the Everest sport.
@@wizzylizzy69how much more did you pay? Compared to MUX
Sound like ford lovers
But what are the options? Prado is old and expensive. Fortuner is old and unimpressive. Everest has positives but poor build and reliability.
Very unlikely to buy one as it is more about advertising than a better vehicle. The thing that really bugs me is all the hype of how reliable it is when there is ample evidence to the contrary. also that engine is not new it has some new parts and the DPF issue is an engine issue as the engine causes it. Also the hot transmission issue. I feel like this is a 2023 price for a 1998 car.
Went for a test drive, was okay... but I felt the inside was werid... like the head space was crowded and the dash up in the air... dunno didnt like it. Outside looks good! This is coming from a new mazda cx5 person btw. Was entertaining the thought of one of these etc.
Don’t worry Jacob - you’re still young and have a lot to learn - the Toyota Fortuner is by far the better vehicle across most criteria than the Isuzu or Ford SUVs with the very capable good value Mitsubishi a close second - Isuzu fail on some steep tracks ascents, Ford have their typical reliability issues - yes my Hilux has the dreaded DPF anomaly but I will still choose a Toyota for getting me out there and back with confidence but if I was on a budget the Pajero Sport with its impressive Super Select 4WD system, good reliability and impressive off-road ability would win hands down.
The Everest might be the benchmark but it's a Ford and I prefer my vehicles at my house rather than the dealers being fixed.
Unfortunately yet another uneducated response. Inform all of us what exactly are the problems you allege with the new generation Ford Everest that would make it spend more time at a dealers rather than your house? Apart from a small batch that had a POTENTIAL issue with inadvertent braking at 6 kph, nothing else has come to light and they have now been around for 12 plus months. Do your homework rather than being a hater of any other brand than the one you own.
@@dutchie7302 believe what you want but they are not what I would call reliable. Ford Issues are well known look them up or talk to a mechanic.
@@dutchie7302Er fuhr Ford und kam nie wieder.
I drove the Fortuna but I've been stung with reliability issues with my Mitsy, so I'm researching & ultra sensitive to potential reliability issues. I don't like the new Toyota 2.8L 1-GD FTV engine that's in there. They've tried to lighten the engine components so it runs faster & pumps out more power but is more 'efficient'. You can see a video of the old KD engine vs the new GD engine on YT...The camrods are half the size/thinner (600g lighter) & are prone to bending. They viscous fan hub loses silicone oil & causes overheating. Need to catch it in time. They're trying to meet emissions & avoid the DPF issues of the older KD engine by sticking a 5th injector in there to dump fuel to promote burn off.
Additionally, the Fortuna is a bit dated and is due for an update.
The Mitsy is another issue. Mine was a solid 4wd but started having overheating issues at
Please don't ever have to go to a Ford service department. They will treat you like shit.
Mitsubishi had nothing wrong. Sold to a relative but bought it back after 2 yrs. Can't wait for the next gen Pajero sports
@@ricr.4669 The magnas all leaked oil from the engine seals. Did the Pajero have that?
Why do reviewers insist on features that the market does not want
6:15 when I bought mine (LST model) all that beeping when you walked away without locking, or when doors opened annoyed me, however I found out that in that small MID behind the steering wheel you could disable all of them, so I did, soooo peaceful now.
If you ever get tired of driving one of those Isuzu Mu-x, why not donate it to a needy family here in Fiji. Thanks. 😊😊
Doors don’t automatically lock themselves after starting a journey. Have to remember to manually lock the doors when starting every journey. This feature should be fitted in a vehicle for security these days to prevent being hijacked
It automatically locks, you can even set the speed that will trigger it.
Thanks very much I will look into it now
@@maxspeed30 sure, mine is LS-E so i set it to 12km/h to trigger it.
@maxspeed30 not sure what part of the world you live in, I live in Australia, thank god the MUX doesn’t auto lock the door. As well as a new MUX, I’ve also got a 2016 Hyundai Accent, and that auto door locking in it gives me the $#1+$ every damn time I wanna open the door while the car is still on.
That’s great for you !, obviously you live in the outback. Here in Townsville can get hijacked at the traffic lights here !.
Just a comment on every review of MUX and Everest, no one mentions that the Everest needs AD-BLUE - one more thing to go wrong and extra cost of running. Come reviewers, how about stepping up to the mark and make this point. I personally wouldn't buy a vehicle with ad-blue, I would rather have a petrol version!
Difficult to fill with diesel at the pumps. Think the tank breather pipe is too small or tank pipe too small. Trigger on pump nozzle keeps tripping out all the time. Have to just about remove the nozzle al the way out. Then when finished filling some fuel gurgles out and runs down the bodywork and makes a mess. Shouldn’t be like this on my top spec MUX
I love my onyx!!! Best car I've ever had, the new tech on the car is awesome for the price. Having owned the previous model this is a great upgrade.
I have a 2022 Prado as a personal car and a new Isuzu MUX as a work vehicle so I get to jump between the two every day. The MUX probably has better electronics, feels a bit punchier and more nimble than the Prado, but that tinny sound when you close the door (you can even hear it in this video), the jittery handling and the instrument cluster from a Playstation game lets you know it is not a real SUV but a converted ute.
I think if they have a sale on and make it a hell of alot cheaper I'd buy one.
Have you Gents done a 7seat SUV comparison lately?
I got an mux. First thing i got disappointed by was the underwhelming power from a 3.0.
Next, steering is heavy
But for its price, i love the interior because its a collab between mazda.
There seems to be some issues with the brake hold.
But damn, the power and feel was a big let down for what it is
Door mirrors don’t fold in when locking the car on the remote. Have to manually fold the door mirrors in then get out and lock the car. Even an old 8 year old Tucson has this feature
So DPD issues on all Fords, Toyotas, and all Dizel cars are not issues you like to let people know about? Sux going in to limp mode and not moving.
Mate in all honeslty if you had the choice out of 3 suvs which one would up own? The gwm tank300 ford Everest ambiente or the mux lsu? These are the option I'm looking at but can't decided
Independent rear suspension? 5 link live axle more like. 😊
@@CathodeRayNipplez if you want a 4x4 it certainly helps.
Its a continuation of the past but with a price tag of a present car. Wrong idea
Does 2023 mux LST have automatic fold in side mirrors when lock the car with remote ?
Lst has a button inside the car for the mirrors
Have to manually close the mirror before you turn the car off
No mention of bump Steer issues these cars are plagued with. Unfortunately owners just keep chewing out the front tyres in 10,000 or 20,000 kms
i have current mux lst, Even though most reports comment on its good ride quality i find it is ruff on small sharp bumps all most as if it has bad body mounts or maybe just shock absorber probelm. it is allmost soft ride on larger bumps and undulations but little bumps it is annoying and gives me a sore neck. has anybody else noticed this ? cheers to you guys
My older Mazda BT 50 is the same.Really bad for that when towing too.Anything more than 60km I end up with a horrible neck/headache.I much prefer driving my old 2005 Commodore.
Drivers door mirror folds in with a bang when a truck goes past and towing a caravan / boat at 100km/h and using the small clip on towing mirrors. Obviously never tested towing a caravan in Australia using mirror extensions. Had to jam my door mirror fixed open.
Purchased the 2022 Mitsubishi Pajero sport GLS sold it after 14 months of shit and Mitsubishi couldn’t solve the issues. No guts in towing. Going back to Isuzu.
Test drove this, definitely agree with the review here. Something just felt off. Have ordered a Tank 300, just couldn’t fault it
Be very interested to see how that goes? …you may need that defibrillator. Not that parts costs would be extravagant, but I’m sure you’ll be needing them nonetheless.
@@lukeclifton4392 ? A what?
Could you do a review of the LDV D 90 diesel. Thanks.
permanent 4WD while it sounds nice and yes it is safer, your fuel economy really declines quite alot.
we don't get any of them in the U.S. $38,400 us $ not much in that price range for a true off roader with a low range lot of soft roaders cx50, rav 4 , crv any thing good is $50k us
You neglected to mention how the Mahindra Scorpio is coming in at TWENTY THOUSAND DOLLARS less
@@CathodeRayNipplez easy with those six guns there Tex, your trigger is a little hairy
Considering the Scorpio directly competes with this and all the other vehicles featured in this video and is even mentioned in their description ......
I guess them wordz can be difficult for some people to readz if they ain't got the schoolin'
Hey Sauce Man, you seem somewhat underwhelmed by the Mux's performance, I believe you bought one of the exciting new Ford Ranger v6 beasts. how's that working out for you??
Got no rear fog lights but has front fog lights for some reason
Ive had my LST for 6 months. Very happy with it, but it's super sluggish. Sometimes i think theres something wrong like the tyres are flat, it just doesnt like rolling forwaed. I went to a 4wd adventure park with a new top of the line Ranger and they were having trouble with clearance and struggling a bit, where as the mux had no issues at all.
Got a throttle controller on it?
Great fuel economy stability control needs work i had an engine light turned out to be an oxygen sensor
MU-X is just a poor men's Toyota Prado.
Isuzu are trying to follow Toyota on the path of “old” tested reliability… problem is, Isuzu have been behind for years!! Their design and engineering can’t compete against todays market.
You can’t compare a truck company with 3-4 generations of SUVs with Ford and Toyota mate! Ford and Toyota are only just upping their game now after how many years of dated interiors and mechanical issues (ford still have them)!! Isuzu has jumped leaps and bounds from their 1st to 3rd Gen MUX
I will not buy this mux after seeing your review. You nailed it to convinced me. Hope others will do the same. Hope you keep it brutally honest so that we will not buy this kind of vehicle.
My boot won’t open on MUX with horse float on. Any suggestions?
Think you have to unplug the trailer plug and lock the doors then try opening the tailgate
whats with the rattle on cold starts is it the timing chain they all do it and how long will the chain last ?
They dont have a timing chain
@@BradleyGray-ms6uu yes they do
Your chanel has stopped me buying pretty much every car I was looking at for my family, no faith in any of these cars after your reviews , I’ll just stick to my 2000 Corolla
Love the fuel consumption of the vehicle and it's just a family one. Not for racing.
When are you going to drive Tank300
16:57, check engine light.
1:12 and people love it in India.
Iam really lucky as I don't have the funds to buy one 🤴
I've heard they are expensive to service. Can anyone verify this?
no different to every other diesel SUV
Isuzu has set fixed price servicing, costs available on their website
Isuzu servicing is generally expensive. We owned the 2018 MuX and its not cheap. But i guess with the 15,000km service interval its better than the Fortuner which maintains a 10,000km interval. Having owned both, the Fortuner is cheaper to service
15000km is too long between services for a modern diesel if you want to it to last. Watch a deconstruction video after failure, they get incredibly sooty inside. Manufacturers don’t want your vehicle to last.
First off, I like the channel.👍
You would think the people giving you the car, would be trying to put their best foot forward and give you a vehicle without the engine ligh on.
What would be a great 0 to 100 for this size and type of vehicle..
I would think the awd is a direct trade off for the great fuel efficiency,
Do you guys ever do a 2 vehicle side by side comparisons.
Keep tickling each other's pickles🫴🥒
Prefect personal lorry for lowest total cost per km over the 20 years lifespan.
Isuzu most durable longest strong engine eversince tested pilipino jep.
Is spelling ‘disappointed’ incorrectly intentional?
Nope... midnight brain fart clearly! Fixed :')
@@CarSauce I thought it was because you were ‘diss’ing the car! Haha
The company I work for bought heaps when they came out. I'm not a fan and yes, a few have already been to the dealer for issues. Also, it's way over priced for such a plasticky techless interior.
What's wrong with the Toyota Fortuner, cause that car feels a lil' bit upmarket that the Isuzu.
Nothing the Fortuner is a fabulous car 🎉
I think the Fortuner is in Pajero Sport/Discovery space…
Fortuner looks so old and Toyota's reliability isn't what it was on the past worst Dpf problems then any other also bad quality paint jobs and 1 of the worst ride in thus segment
It looks like it was launched in 2005.
Great car..but give me a Hyundai palisade with high ground clearance 😂
全体のバランスがいいね！
Love Matt and Jacobs bro chemistry
Gay
Rexton has power tailgate for 5 grand less...
Seriously you guys, the Fortuner rates above MUX, Mitsi easily. Arguably has some better features than Everest (reliability especially). MUX just doesn't have enough go.
That old tractor? I’d hardly think so….
Your bloody kidding aren't you? The reviews are harsh on Fortuner's, and for good reason.
Fortuner is rubbish
Does reliability matter on these newer cars? They still have warranty and fresh from the womb
Your a loverly couple. 😂
You’re
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@@CarSauce Pedantic!
Very nondescript I would say.
Mate, you're a little bit silly and irritating to be taken seriously, sorry. Not surprised at the relatively high 71 thumbs down.
This guy is really anti Toyota 😂😂😂
Well sprung he says 😂😂😂😂
You guys are a pisser 😂 love the reviews
Pronounced MEW-EX. I always need to school the immature journos. 😊
This guy craves attention by being a hater .
Young man, get on top of your trade first. If you cannot even pronounce the name, why should we listen to you blabbing on? It is pronounced MEW-EX. I constantly have to educate influencers and journos. Next time, first learn your trade before rushing out to join the boys for a VB. I came out top of the class by doing my homework while others played. Immature journalism is disrespect to the audience. Get your act together. Please.
Mate grow up, who cares! Everyone in Australia Pronounces It like MU-X, not “MEW-X” so talk to everyone in Australia if you have such a huge problem with the pronunciation of the MU-X, like generally Grow Up!!
No one cares if you got top of your class, and why did you say “immature” just because he can have fun with his life and make jokes!! If you think thats “immature” you must have a boring life!
Very ordinary car.
Ay-suzu 💀
Everest infotainment is waaaaaay to big and clunky. Older school heaters and a screen a bit bigger than the MUX is the go. Aka Toyota 👏
We dont want permanent 4wd as to expensive for maintenance and fuel economy. Selectable 4wd drives fine. Everest fuel economy is crap
But you're paying for it in that inflated price and not getting it.
Pajero and Everest have selectable 4wd that can be used on sealed roads which means it can also be driven in 2wd. A good safety feature on wet roads and hard dirt. The MUX cannot. It has a drive system that is decade's old.
Very overrated car and transmission.
Why you driving on the wrong side ..
The two Sheilas.
Como todo gringo. Bla bla bla bla.
You didn’t want to release the zForerunner, and you seem to find faults in most vehicles you drive. You might need a holiday.
I Think you mean Fortuner, the Forerunner is not in Australia! And the Fortuner has much more problems than a MU-X