Man, Reynor is so much fun to watch when he's on top of things. Somewhere between the mechanical perfection of Serral and the drunken mastery of Dark is the crack-ling fast intensity of Reynor. What a perfect trifecta of world class zergs. 🖤
I love watching Reynor. And I think Serral needs a little bit lore of Reynor and Dark. And Clem clearly made him re think his strategy in the finals, someone can play better 😂
I know it'll never happen, but every time I watch pro tournament games like this I can't help but think, I'd love to see this but with the War Chest skins. Like wouldn't it be awesome to see these games with, for instance, the Leviathan and Umojan skins turned on?
i wanted to see Dark vs Clem so bad in this tournament, I feel like nobody else is aggressive enough in the early game of zvt to take down clem in a series
wasn't Olivera the previous champion? Also I think the main concern with hearing commentators is Clem hearing something like "Raynor is going into Mutas, but Clem has no idea!!!"
At what point does the balance team acknowledge its the player, not the race? 2018 serral/zerg was on par with this clem but after 500 zerg nerfs serral just gets rolled. Now they're probably just going to nerf MMM
I liked Clem's opening build - I think if he had traded one of his cyclones for a siege tank on the high ground it would have been a LOT more effective.
Either that or go for Infernal Pre-ignitor since he didn't really do much Cyclone kiting anyways (the Hellions did most of the actual unit killing), while his main opposing unit was lings.
@@joshuakim5240 I think he planned on killing lings with hellions and queens with cyclones - but the lockons seemed to spread their targets instead of focus allowing the queens to transfuse - and with the queens soaking up all the cyclones shots - the lings eventually got to them.
huh, so the pro gamers blast white noise in their headphones? I would've thought they'd be listening to in-game music, they are bangers, but, to each their own. I guess it's so that they can concentrate more. Great cast! you had me in the first half, thought it would be Olivera, the champ last year.
Кажется, что Клем сейчас играет как Мару в лучшие свои годы. И стратегия похожа на старых терранов. Постоянные дропы в трех местах. Зерги уже разучились похоже этому противостоять. Раньше Серрал вывозил такое, сейчас он похоже чуть-чуть не в форме. Вроде бы Серрал раньше держал 500-600 апм...
Hard to say, really. Serral has a big question mark over his name right now, as he's currently doing his mandatory military service (it's not as bad as Korea's, but it can't be helping his practice), and it can't be denied that at least three, maybe four, of the maps in the current map pool are heavily Terran-favored, either locking Zerg into bad strategies with limited paths or giving Terrans the ability to easily coke up 2-3 bases with almost no way for Zerg to get in. The Balance Council really needs to work on a new patch and a new map-pool, especially if some pointy-haired exec is going to insist on best-of-9 finals when the map list was specifically brought up to nine because so many of them were experimental and their balance was in doubt.
Clem invested at the beginning to line up with cyclons...upgrades everything. Then all of the resources he spent on just left behind....and started with marines against the same army composition Reynor started with. Why? Why did he invest so much into the cyclons when -as it turned out later on -he simply left all those invested resources behind. I dont get it. This must be an april fools trick. These guys are not even close to their game. Check that marine count xD this must be a joke xD 16:16 that poor scv stuck behind the engineering bay ...yay "thats a retirement for that scv XDDDD" 2nd game so far and yet still no air army composition for Reynor.... wierd. 3rd game.12:23 no tech units/ missing air army and the game mark 12:23 So 3 thing: OR they are trolling on purpose, or these guys are not the guys who has these names playing now or IAM so fuckin mistaken.... 4th game 14 min game mark....NO ULTRALISKS at all...why?? Where are they?? 53:36 A viper ....a VIPER!!! finally appear on the screen at almost 17 min game mark HOLY COW! 56:45 A single Viper and one infestor...at almost 20 min game mark as tech unit appears....1-1...nothing else. Terran worse he built Vikings against almost no air threat from clem.... Iam not a professional not even close... all those opinions just opinions and experience from the games i saw and titled as a championship game with winners like Serral etc etc... 5th game made me laugh... here at 1:13:03 that infestor was created by the zerg about 300million years ago to use fungus against mass bio composition, they evolved it to deal with these little terrans and yet look at that moment. He failed to use this ability to root them down.... while he waited an entire life to be ready when that moment comes...
what's the zerg equivalent of a medivac? i alway s thought marines are way too op . simply because they are long range. if you have 20 zeregling against 1 marine, they still need to attack him a set amount of time while the other zerglings just walk around cause they are close range. While if you have 10 marine and 10 zerglings, ALL the marine attack even before getting attacked, how is that balanced? let's say you can put a infestor together but marine have medivac, aren't marine still winning? The fact ALL terran humans are long range , is absurdly unbalanced to me.
there is not unit equivalent, only countering units. terran doesn't have a unit equivalent to roaches, cause marauders are strong vs armored, not vs light. so it all balances out, when you not only sum up the entirety of the possible unit composition, but also the quality of a single player. yes, zerglings are melee, but you for example don't need to stutter step like marines. or else, they would have solved this problem 25 years ago with SC1 balance already. the thing is, balance is not intended for us noobs, but for the elite level players' stats. Say i can move my marines GM level, but i kinda suck at everything else and i'm ranked silver. i could destroy any silver enemy micro-wise but only beacause i'm a better player related to the average of my ranking. If i were against a GM, they would be used to that skill level of my micro, nothing exceptional, and so the distance advantage nomore. rather, marines are very powerful and with literally no skill ceiling. zerglings are super effective vs tanks, whereas tanks are super effective vs marines, beacuse zerglings reach a melee range which tanks can't shoot at. or the most expensive land terran unit: the thor. it completely sucks against zerglings. one cannot compare basic units of each race, beacause every stat and specialisation has to be considered before throwing stuff at the opponent. that is my personal idea after some years as a spectator and with very limited game experience.
Ghosts get a lot of (deserved) hate, but IMHO the absolute number 1 OP Terran unit is the Medivac. It's what enables all the bio BS that you end up seeing, adding unmatched mobility, unmatched resilience for the units it carries. That's the unit I'd begin nerfing, and hard. Then again, I'm a simple youtube commenter scrub, so...
Ima stop watching clem games. it's so boring. Usually i can think "Oh if he did that, he could have won." or "if he didn't make that mistake it could have been won" When watching clem games recently, i don't see how any zerg/protoss could have won. (I usually root for the terran or protoss...).
I’ve heard you broadcast with other UA-camrs in the scene and I always enjoy your insight and commentary! If you did ANYTHING except the intro that you do, I would have been watching all your content along time ago. But every time one of your vids pops up and that annoying voice comes thru 3x louder than anything else I watch… like cmon dude, it’s not cool or funny! … it genuinely sucks
queens and vipers are the only good zerg units. and vipers get sniped or 1 shot by thors. if serral is losing i dont think more zerg nerfs are in order.. since he was basically the only zerg dominating the game, and zerg was balanced around him.
Hey Lowko: could you please put the tournament information in the description? I would like to know where/when these games were played.
Yeah, seconding this
Yup, thirding this.
(This one was played at EWC)
Yup, yupping this.
Aye, aying this.
@@HomelessNoob34 potatoing this
50:58 Nydussy is diabolical 😭
I concur
I think it was nydusae, like the plural of Medusa is Medusae
@@johnchilton4005Gorgonussy
I got flashbangged when he said it. Such an horrible yet powerful word
Man, Reynor is so much fun to watch when he's on top of things. Somewhere between the mechanical perfection of Serral and the drunken mastery of Dark is the crack-ling fast intensity of Reynor. What a perfect trifecta of world class zergs. 🖤
Double rainbow all the way across the sky!
I see you lowko, I knew what you were going for.
I remember the double rainbow guy
1:02:20 13=16-4 Math in a video goes as good as usual
Edit: math mistake XD
Dude game 4 was some phenomenal Starcraft! Rough start, yeah, but the level of multitasking and control that both players displayed was WILD
1:05:46 banelings mines missed :( my favourite part of the game :(
50:30
thats how kerrigan was reborn 😔
I love watching Reynor. And I think Serral needs a little bit lore of Reynor and Dark. And Clem clearly made him re think his strategy in the finals, someone can play better 😂
half way in... epic games, epic games no kidding
that is real world class SC2
I know it'll never happen, but every time I watch pro tournament games like this I can't help but think, I'd love to see this but with the War Chest skins. Like wouldn't it be awesome to see these games with, for instance, the Leviathan and Umojan skins turned on?
Want to see more of Clems game play TvT, and TvP would be cool as well.😂
There's JUST SOMETHING ABOUT NASTY ZERG BUGS getting massacred that is so very SATISFYING, lololol
Respect to Lowko for unironically using "pwned" in 2024. My boomer millenial heart is pleased.
i wanted to see Dark vs Clem so bad in this tournament, I feel like nobody else is aggressive enough in the early game of zvt to take down clem in a series
45:24 This mine decided to burrow before the order was given and thus the dominion took care of it.
Thanks for the video, Lowko. Happy Friday! ❤
ZvT plays out like a generic sci-fi movie where humans inevitably win
Reynor should have just stuck to a queen drop every game 😂
YEAH baby!
here we go.
wasn't Olivera the previous champion?
Also I think the main concern with hearing commentators is Clem hearing something like "Raynor is going into Mutas, but Clem has no idea!!!"
At what point does the balance team acknowledge its the player, not the race? 2018 serral/zerg was on par with this clem but after 500 zerg nerfs serral just gets rolled. Now they're probably just going to nerf MMM
56:00 POWNED? What is this, 2005?! I feel old just knowing what it is!
26:22 that Male Karak selected moment felt dramatic and deep... 1 vote for more Male Karak moments
Lowko: I know who ends up winning the series
We all know, Lowko :)
I liked Clem's opening build - I think if he had traded one of his cyclones for a siege tank on the high ground it would have been a LOT more effective.
Either that or go for Infernal Pre-ignitor since he didn't really do much Cyclone kiting anyways (the Hellions did most of the actual unit killing), while his main opposing unit was lings.
@@joshuakim5240 I think he planned on killing lings with hellions and queens with cyclones - but the lockons seemed to spread their targets instead of focus allowing the queens to transfuse - and with the queens soaking up all the cyclones shots - the lings eventually got to them.
25:11 How does Clem has 0 workers, 3 army supply and 4 total supply?
supply count is both units existing AND being produced; there was an scv being produced
Double rainbow. Oh my god!!!
huh, so the pro gamers blast white noise in their headphones? I would've thought they'd be listening to in-game music, they are bangers, but, to each their own. I guess it's so that they can concentrate more.
Great cast!
you had me in the first half, thought it would be Olivera, the champ last year.
Two of the very fastest gamers in the world
about to eat, just in time!!!
Кажется, что Клем сейчас играет как Мару в лучшие свои годы. И стратегия похожа на старых терранов. Постоянные дропы в трех местах. Зерги уже разучились похоже этому противостоять. Раньше Серрал вывозил такое, сейчас он похоже чуть-чуть не в форме. Вроде бы Серрал раньше держал 500-600 апм...
I know same race battles are probably not too good for view counts. But I’d like to see some Clem TvT 😂
great games! great series!
I think Clem has superceded serral after "finnishing" him off 😂🤣
Hard to say, really. Serral has a big question mark over his name right now, as he's currently doing his mandatory military service (it's not as bad as Korea's, but it can't be helping his practice), and it can't be denied that at least three, maybe four, of the maps in the current map pool are heavily Terran-favored, either locking Zerg into bad strategies with limited paths or giving Terrans the ability to easily coke up 2-3 bases with almost no way for Zerg to get in. The Balance Council really needs to work on a new patch and a new map-pool, especially if some pointy-haired exec is going to insist on best-of-9 finals when the map list was specifically brought up to nine because so many of them were experimental and their balance was in doubt.
Zerg got so over-nerfed with time... No Zerg can stop Clem at the moment
1:14:39 baneling bomb.
don't worry Lowko, I remember the double rainbow guy
double rainbow across the sky omg lol
actually in other sports the current reigning champion is introduced last
Double Lurker Den all the way!!! What does it mean... *sniff*
bro actually jsut ran through the entire tournament dropping exactly 2 maps, he had like 90%wr against pro players
I remember the double rainbow guy!! 🌈 OMG
Stim pack shouldn't buff both marines and marauders. Terran bio is OP
Game 2 : 0 workers, 3 army, but still showing as 4 supply? I don't understand that math.
Clem is nuts
The Reynor curse continues.
Finallly lets bring it home for zerg (just started watching)
ghosts can snipe biological targets, make them able to snipe zerg buildings blizzard!
Clem won 1 mil dollars and spent some time in grease
Clem’s weakness is uthermal
domination by clem i wish i can play this fast
Clem invested at the beginning to line up with cyclons...upgrades everything. Then all of the resources he spent on just left behind....and started with marines against the same army composition Reynor started with. Why? Why did he invest so much into the cyclons when -as it turned out later on -he simply left all those invested resources behind.
I dont get it.
This must be an april fools trick. These guys are not even close to their game.
Check that marine count xD this must be a joke xD
16:16 that poor scv stuck behind the engineering bay ...yay "thats a retirement for that scv XDDDD"
2nd game so far and yet still no air army composition for Reynor.... wierd.
3rd game.12:23 no tech units/ missing air army and the game mark 12:23 So 3 thing: OR they are trolling on purpose, or these guys are not the guys who has these names playing now or IAM so fuckin mistaken....
4th game 14 min game mark....NO ULTRALISKS at all...why?? Where are they??
53:36 A viper ....a VIPER!!! finally appear on the screen at almost 17 min game mark HOLY COW!
56:45 A single Viper and one infestor...at almost 20 min game mark as tech unit appears....1-1...nothing else. Terran worse he built Vikings against almost no air threat from clem....
Iam not a professional not even close... all those opinions just opinions and experience from the games i saw and titled as a championship game with winners like Serral etc etc...
5th game made me laugh... here at 1:13:03 that infestor was created by the zerg about 300million years ago to use fungus against mass bio composition, they evolved it to deal with these little terrans and yet look at that moment. He failed to use this ability to root them down.... while he waited an entire life to be ready when that moment comes...
Former World champ would have been a more apt descriptiin than Old world champ
I too am a boomer so I got your double rainbow reference
Wondering, isn't it advantage for a player to hear what the commentators are saying just to know what the opponent might be doing?
Why They don't build spore colonies for def? I just wonder..
CLEM!
But oliveira is the old world champ...
who is the BEST Terran player ?
Whoooooooooaaa double 🌈 all the way… what does this meeeaann?! OOOOHH! Oh my God. OOOOOHHH!!
Watching mass marine beat every top Zerg gets old lol
ZvT my favorite
Plz do 2vs2/3vs3
Hey lowko I got a ad every 4 or 5 minutes. I really like watching you but these ads are upsetting
what's the zerg equivalent of a medivac? i alway s thought marines are way too op . simply because they are long range. if you have 20 zeregling against 1 marine, they still need to attack him a set amount of time while the other zerglings just walk around cause they are close range.
While if you have 10 marine and 10 zerglings, ALL the marine attack even before getting attacked, how is that balanced? let's say you can put a infestor together but marine have medivac, aren't marine still winning? The fact ALL terran humans are long range , is absurdly unbalanced to me.
there is not unit equivalent, only countering units. terran doesn't have a unit equivalent to roaches, cause marauders are strong vs armored, not vs light. so it all balances out, when you not only sum up the entirety of the possible unit composition, but also the quality of a single player. yes, zerglings are melee, but you for example don't need to stutter step like marines. or else, they would have solved this problem 25 years ago with SC1 balance already.
the thing is, balance is not intended for us noobs, but for the elite level players' stats. Say i can move my marines GM level, but i kinda suck at everything else and i'm ranked silver. i could destroy any silver enemy micro-wise but only beacause i'm a better player related to the average of my ranking. If i were against a GM, they would be used to that skill level of my micro, nothing exceptional, and so the distance advantage nomore. rather, marines are very powerful and with literally no skill ceiling. zerglings are super effective vs tanks, whereas tanks are super effective vs marines, beacuse zerglings reach a melee range which tanks can't shoot at. or the most expensive land terran unit: the thor. it completely sucks against zerglings.
one cannot compare basic units of each race, beacause every stat and specialisation has to be considered before throwing stuff at the opponent. that is my personal idea after some years as a spectator and with very limited game experience.
So many commercials in your videos, tune down your settings 😅
I don't mind ghost, but marines are very OP.
Ghosts get a lot of (deserved) hate, but IMHO the absolute number 1 OP Terran unit is the Medivac. It's what enables all the bio BS that you end up seeing, adding unmatched mobility, unmatched resilience for the units it carries. That's the unit I'd begin nerfing, and hard. Then again, I'm a simple youtube commenter scrub, so...
can we upload the series in order so the winners of the games aren't spoiled? Makes me not wanna watch
So Zerg buffs when? I'm so tired of the current state of starcraft. Ghost are so overpowered and Zerg has been nothing but nerfed
Clem as world champion ? I thought it was serral
Clem utterly destroyed Serral in last world cup tournament.
Do you live under a rock?
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Ima stop watching clem games. it's so boring. Usually i can think "Oh if he did that, he could have won." or "if he didn't make that mistake it could have been won" When watching clem games recently, i don't see how any zerg/protoss could have won. (I usually root for the terran or protoss...).
30 seconds and no commets, lowko fell off
curating
I’ve heard you broadcast with other UA-camrs in the scene and I always enjoy your insight and commentary!
If you did ANYTHING except the intro that you do, I would have been watching all your content along time ago.
But every time one of your vids pops up and that annoying voice comes thru 3x louder than anything else I watch… like cmon dude, it’s not cool or funny! … it genuinely sucks
This right here gentlemen is what it looks like to have the worst take possible
terran OP?
first?
lame
Queens should not be able to transfuse othet queens ots ridiculus
queens and vipers are the only good zerg units. and vipers get sniped or 1 shot by thors. if serral is losing i dont think more zerg nerfs are in order.. since he was basically the only zerg dominating the game, and zerg was balanced around him.
MMM always boring