What went wrong for the USMNT? | ESPN FC
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- Опубліковано 10 жов 2017
- The ESPN FC crew dissects the USMNT's shocking loss to Trinidad and Tobago and ouster from World Cup contention.
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It's not fair, USA had to play Trinidad and Tobago. That's 2 against 1
Tejbir Dhillon wtf 😂😂😂😂
Tejbir Dhillon hold this W 😂😂
Tejbir Dhillon Hahaha 😂👏🏻
Mirza Kovacevic W= whack
im fukin ded 😂
Shaka is from Trinidad and Tobago and you can tell how worked up he is from the arrogance of the USMNT.
And also the comments from the US about the conditions; those were just plain disrespectful and the people who made those comments should be ashamed of themselves
He don’t look like he’s happy Trinidad won 💀
I was about to say "who hurt shaka" lmao
I thought at first it was more likely some Bolivian marching powder, but your explanation makes sense as well.
@@DokiVivacityhe was more pissed at the Us being more arrogant than anything
1. Pay for play system is idiotic - 90% of great footballers in History came from poverty, poorest children can't afford to play, immigrant kids from South America or Mexico can't afford to play, because of that system you loosing your best talents. Football is not and never was elite's sport, it always was poor people and working classes sport,
2. MLS is not competitive at all because few teams play for the title and more than a half of teams play for nothing because nobody gets relegated. At least 4 teams have to be relegated every year to elevate level of competivness. When your ass is on fire you run quicker and your'e way more focused
Testify my brother. Champions are born and bred in tough backgrounds, they grow up with a chip on their shoulders always having something to prove to themselves. The US teams, the players have no backgrounds that's worthy of anything. Not that they should be ashamed that they came from good homes, but we're missing out on talent because there is not the infrasrtucture and the monies to help develop these kids. Another point that was made is all the best players from around the world eventually make their way to Europe at a young age to develop better, they're so arrogant they think they can do a better job than the Europeans in developing talent.
Ronaldo and messi came from a poor background
I didnt even know such a crap exited!
they never feel the pressure because no relegation. So when the lose 2-0 to T & T they not kniw how to react because they had no exprience being pressure. All around the world player hard to get a point even tho they are losing. 1 point is better than losing.
Soccer can be played by ANYONE. Rich or poor, old or young, slave or free.
somewhere klinsmann is laughing his tits off
Klinnsman was one of the architects of the German revival starting in 2004. It's not his fault that when he arrived in the US he had to deal with stuck up players, stuck up USMNT management, and stuck up media who did not want to revamp their system. I remember saying for months how shit talking Klinssman in the US won't make anything better for the US................ well.... Now we have to revamp everything, otherwise its back into the dark ages.
baltechsea23 klansmann set us football back. Never should have been hired and we should have started rebuilding the entire football structure back then.
baltechsea23 Klinsmann was garbage as well. His pedigree didn't match his eye for talent, loser mentality, and terrible formations.
baltechsea23 my brain hurt when they fired him and brought arena back
+Soberanis Fam Set US soccer back from what? Before Klinnsman got there there were what 3 good players in howard Dempsay and Donovan? Now we at least have young talent like Pulisic, Yedlin, Zelalem etc. Klinnsmans been the only US coach to actually go out and get players from Europe actually try to build up and farm talent and push his players to go to Europe cuz he knew the MLS was a joke. Hes not a great coach by any means but hes miles ahead of what the USA has ever had... the main problem is that the USMNT didn't buy into his system.
Shakka 100% on point 👌
Hercules gomez still trying to find as much of an excuse as he can. He is part of the problem. He embodies the arrogance that has led to this.
and he was a scrub too.
Get those kids from black and Latino hoods and give them a chance. Soooooo many Mexican American kids dream of playing soccer professionally, but for the most part since many of us grow up poor, we can't afford to play it after public high school. Nowhere near the same opportunities as football or basketball. Baseball doesn't care about us as much either
Gerardo Reyes that’s capitalism buddy. No funds no play. Tough luck pooor kids.
Gerardo Reyes Jacobe Ellsberry (spelling) New York Yankees outfielder is from Madras Oregon...he played for madras high...
A team that my highschool futbol team would have beat 10+ to 0.
And right now I would stomp the crap out of him in futbol.
Want to know why I think he went from being a shit tier “soccer player” to a mega bucks baseball player?
I will tell you... he knew the right person.
So many players... so fee positions, broken system, nepotism wins.
So Iceland is a socialist country? lol Sweden too? Germany? hahah ur out of order sir
Duke J they do implement socialism in their respective countries; a mixed system
Only other way is to try and get noticed outside of the USA.
The fact that Gomez is actually defending Michael Bradley is pretty indicative of what the problem is.
Trinidadian here. Proud of my country. USA played shit tbh. They deserved to lose. No doubt. Next time USA. Good job TandT
Dillon Samaroo and y'all a shit country tbh
okcthunder fanbase keep talking bruh. That's the same mindset that got yall ass knocked out. My shit Country and I.
Dillon Samaroo he's a child don't worry he doesn't speak for America
Brilliantly put
Dillon Samaroo Congratulations Bro & Best Of Luck For The World Cup But You Shouldn't Disrespect USA. It's Sports, One Team Wins Another Team Loses.
Shaka just kills it!!
Shaka's such a great analyst
Well said by the Trinidadian
Twellman looks like Joe Hart lol
Like-- a lot.
Looks like a bit of Henry A. Wallace
its like hart and cannavaro had a kid
T 21199 lol as long pay to play exists shit like this will always happen
3:54 most arrogant, Yes finally preach my man
And Americans mock England for beating Panama 6-1 when they can't even beat Panama themselves 😂😂😂😂
They tied in Panama City 1-1, and beat Panama at Home 4-0.
The US lost to Costa Rica twice, and tied and lost to Mexico. Something that hadn’t happened before
There's nothing wrong with beating Panama 6-1 at all, maybe they were making fun of England for conceding to Panama ?
I have never seen Americans mock England for winning 6-1
Still can’t beat Panama 😔
Shaka Hislop what a legend
united states has no business being in the world cup..a country that doesn't appreciate the sport. stick to basketball and handegg.
Handegg???
He's referring to american "football" because, to begin with, it's not even played with a round ball and the feet have almost nothing to do with that sport anyway. Some ppl outside the US say they use their hands to pass an egg over and over again, thus the handegg business
handegg... aahahahhha too funny ;D
Powerball and KickVolley and California Games.
Hand almond
This beautiful game was meant to be played in the streets first before the big stage. We that reside in the US will never get overall better until we take and allow it to be played in the streets. Pay for Play needs to be regressed
arrogant and weak systemically
Fun fact, There are like a most hundred of organizations and clubs who willing to give the young players a path to their dreams in the football worl, but these organizations/clubs are focused more on the $$$ they're getting from the tryouts, they're not really focusing on the talents that are being showcased at their tryouts... in reality football in the us is corrupted, these tryouts are scam and the system is messed up, why can't such a big country can't produce enough talents ?!?! Damnnn this is Unbelievable
Mexican americans are needed in the USMNT.
Omar's own goal....good god!!! 😂
R. Kurita Tim Howard’s reflexes also aren’t as good as it used to be
R. Kurita Tim Howard’s reflexes also aren’t as good as it used to be
Where's Craig burley? I need him to go off for some comedic relief to keep from crying.
What went wrong for the USMNT?
E V E R Y T H I N G
july 2020 and im still in shock about his and rewatching smh
Neglecting Mexican American players, the pay for play development system is detrimental to usmnt, and the firing Juergen Klinsmann
Raul Barron wrong
Pay to play affects everyone not just Mexican Americans
@@therealmohammad learn to read commas.
@@superlex611 give us your take, genius. Let's hear it.
He's 100% right.
@@fandomewhisper they need potential players who can be selected and Mexican Americans has nothing to do with of development, find legit talents whether is from the streets or not
That was possibly Bruce Arena’s dumbest comments ever. Most teams in UEFA and CONMEBOL would destroy qualifying in CONCACAF. If this isn’t a wake up call for US soccer, then I won’t know what is.
7:05 how do you interrupt him talking then claim he interrupted you?😂
The big problem with US soccer is
1) Players are offered much more money to play overseas than in MLS resulting in a move far away from your home. Euro players on the other hand can visit their loved ones back home much easier just by hopping on a cheap flight.
2) For soccer to gain popularity in the US, MLS will not and perhaps never create the level of hype needed for new fans to get on-board. The most watched cup with some of the best talent in the game is by far the Premier League which is usually aired early-late morning in the US. I'm on the east coast and I need to wake up at 7am on a weekend to catch some games. The majority US population will never get on that schedule. Bundesliga and La Liga will also never get fans on-board as it's A) dominated by basically a 2 or 3 clubs for an overall lack of excitement and competitiveness compared to the Premier League and B) hardly ever broadcast in English over here.
3) Complete lack of incentive for our younger generation to choose soccer over (American) football, baseball, and basketball as each of the latter offer extremely high scholarships and the ability to play in your home country/not have to move overseas.
Steve S well explained in detail
There’s something to add at ur #2 statement that many young players in the us is controlled by pay to play that’s also why there’s many lack of experience the US just doesn’t wanna change things to natural talent the is all about business
If you want to play pro in the USA and make the national team, you need to skip college and focus on going pro at 17 years old!!
Bro that shouting match at 6:45 was amazing lol
Hercules is resisting criticism towards the players. They aren't kids, let them take it on the chin. Let them respond on the field like professionals.
3 years later I’m proud of how far USMNT has come from this moment. We have the most talent on our team than we ever had.
how are you feeling now?
@@romanyoder9266 still good I mean USA are getting better
Having the most talent =/= having the most performing team.
But good luck in Qatar.
@@ronaldt2339 I’m from the U.S. and I hope we qualify however there’s no guarantees that we’re gonna be in Qatar yet. We blew it last time and I have my worries
And now it would take an even worse collapse to just be in the intercontinental playoff
Way better team now than 4 years ago
I’m a huge futbol fan, I watch every league and every major cup. The World Cup is one of my most favorite sporting events in the world. Them not qualifying makes me sick to my stomach. What needs to be done is an overhaul in all of us soccer. From the mls, to youth, and to international. Look what Germany did, take a note from their book and let’s get to where we should be on a national stage.
ThatBamaDude14 no just no
ThatBamaDude14
I agree. It’s won’t happen though. Germany actually cares about football.
Football/soccer here in the US is mainly a kids game.
People in the U.S do care about soccer
Need to kick out the NCAA and sign kids professionally at 16
ThatBamaDude14 It's bc only people who can afford to play can get in I am from England and if your good clubs actually pay for you
Usa can't even beat an already eliminated Trinidad and Tobago how sad 😂 😂 😂 usass team gonna be ordering chips,food and HD TVs as they watch the world cup in usa next summer bye bye ustrash 😂
in there multi million dollars mansions haha but ya this team sucked
You must be Mexican
Wrong 4K TVs not hdtvs.
LiL Trill #GhettoFan #goat #12 clearly it is. Bye USMNT no one is going to miss your shitty team
Davin Pajuelo fuck pulisic he sucks. He's a little pretty boy bitch.
SO much salt, even we Trinbingonians laughing @ the USA atm for their inability to beat our waste of a side. #sucksalt ...Shaka..... big up for making out US Media & their b>s
Yeah mon. That was our B squad also. lmao
KN Byam wait actually?😂
Old head was hype yo i thought they was about to throw down lol .
Steve Cuthbert he legit was spitting facts look what happen to the us on the finals they lost to Mexico b team, the us is all about pay to play that’s why there’s many lack of experience cause the us just doesn’t change things where more future players need natural talent
This is one of the best day for Trinidadian people proud of my country 🇹🇹🇹🇹
I'm bringing this up every time we win against america
Simply being not good enough and complacency are the main problems. People moan when the older players are still being used, but that sums up the quality of the younger players. The MLS as a whole, is a poor league. Most of the players aren't playing in the top leagues. Klinsmann did wonders with the US team and they wouldn't have qualified for as many tournaments as they did if he wasn't there (which now shows). And if you think doing well at the Olympics means that you'll do well in the professional game, then you are deluded.
And now, they seem to have this American attitude of doing just enough and expect to win. And if they think that relying on Pulisic is one idea, then they'll just go backwards.
Klinsmann was overrated for various reasons. Back in 1994, the US National Team made the quarterfinals without all of the soccer infrastructure. Until someone comes around an coaches a team to go beyond the quarterfinals in the World Cup, every coach under-performs.
One more thing. Look at the last three world cup champions, what do you see? Teams chalked full of players that have play with and against each other on a regular basis in their own leagues. It's no accident that the German national team is full of guys that are playing for Bayern Munich and Boroussia Dortmund, and Spanish team full of Real Madrid and Barcelona players. Soccer is a team sport primarily, and it doesn't matter as much where you play, but with how often you play and with whom. A national teams full of players who play all over the world is not going to be successful, a national team made up of guys coming out of the local clubs that play with and against each other are a lot more suited to playing as a cohesive unit.
suryavajra a youth developement has to Be invested in sports with talented players
Well it has to start somewhere Alex. A lot of countries that became soccer powers had nowhere near the disposable income we are pushing into soccer. Rather we gotta actually have soccer as pick-up games, something that can be played anytime anywhere. The players will come out, but it can only be done when the ball and the player are one.
suryavajra but how will people will ever watch soccer for their legacy sports ?
This was the best thing that could happen for U.S. soccer for the future
It's a necessary wake up call. They NEED to step up.
What a difference five years makes.
USA's BACK! THE USMNT IS BACK IN THE FIFA WORLD CUP STAGE! The failed qualification for the 2018 FIFA World Cup in Russia is now a distant memory.
This is in the background, but the best way to wash that stink off them is to get out of group and make a decent run.
Side note T and T also best the us in the 4x400m at the world championships this yr.
Soccer is a prievelage in the U.S
I appreciate the honest self evaluation from the US. Mexico should learn from this or they too will have a serious reality check. Several Concacaf teams are improving a lot, and soon being the largest countries in concacaf will not be enough to qualify them for tournaments.
coming back 4 years later, look at mexico now
@@HectorHernandez-jz3zzcompa is getting worse
Osario come bless us please :( of course new players but coaching does make a difference.
Still remember Argentina 4-0 USA. How mercyful they were 😂
Sol Agüero Facts
That was an expected result
7:12 So much emotion hahahah
Until US soccer can find a way to work around the ridiculous pay for play system, there will be absolutely no progression as a football powerhouse. The inability to give inner city kids or kids from financially unstable backgrounds an opportunity is seriously holding back USMNT. As an Englishman I find it unbelievable, as half our national team and greatest football players are lads from working class families or tough backgrounds. Their individual desire to prove their strength of character and rise to stardom with football IQ and hunger.
I guarantee USMT and US soccer will be losing future quality stars to other sports and that as lover of this great sport is so disappointing.
I’d like to see them back at a World Cup, but a whole systematic change to the national soccer infrastructure and youth development is needed if the US are ever going to compete past the qualifying rounds of the World Cup
Panamaaaa♥️🇵🇦
David Real congrats 🍾
Geat rant Shaka !
Russian officials will be delighted anyway
Hank Scorpio The officials come from all over the world.
Twellman is a star. Phenomenal voice of reason.
Maybe you guys didn't qualify cause you guys call it "soccer"
Manuel Serna stfu
Seriously its childish that people even think that the name of the sport really matters as much as they think it does.
Maybe you're a little bitch Manuel Serna
Japan and Korea call it soccer too, but they qualified ;)
Jose Sandoval Japan and Korea use American words? You don’t say
Why talk over Steve Nicol? A man who played for the great Liverpool side of the Eighties, as an Evertonian that statement pains me. This is a man who knows what winning is about.
When I played select soccer I was fortunate enough not to have to pay any fees because at the time my family wasn't ditching out $2500 a year(back in 1999-2002). I don't know how I was able to play but was thankful I was wanted that much on a club team.... soccer comes at a price in this country especially in today's world...
we need to bring in players from the hoods. Too many softies in this team. You know what I mean?
Nah, dont do that, we want Trinidad to beat them next time around
too many proper english losers, lol.
the brothers from the hood are all playing basketball. You play soccer you get mocked feel me?
@@DREAMWORKERSKY the africans, latinos , and asians im the hood play soccer tho
@@DREAMWORKERSKY Then we need to change that.
USA natural arrogance. When you accept the fact that this game is not "soccer" but "football", I believe you may have a way out of this mess.
Paulo May it's irrelevant. It's the same beautiful game
That is a arrogant thing to say, demanding that the US use football rather than soccer, the whole thing is just semantics
They use the word "soccer" in USA, so it´s soccer, that´s it. STFU
Lol they spent 11 minutes trying to answer what went wrong? The USMNT isn't good enough to qualify for the World Cup. That's it. The best players are old and suck (relatively speaking)
Damon Agyeman they had to invest more in the youth developement in soccer and seeking for talented players
I thought who is this bloke in glasses he's talking lots of sense. Then his name came up and I thought yep he's a top man played at Liverpool he's been there knows his stuff spot on Stevie.👍👍👍
Costa Rica and Iceland soccer systems are similar; they both care about the whole soccer system taking care like a baby and player are growing soccer since being in elementary school. Soccer player kids have soccer technical up to making the soccer selection for the World Cup.
Thought Stevie was gonna chin Gómez 😂😂
So much re-structure is needed but there is hope...For example in US Soccer history only 3 American players have gone through the Juvenil Divisions (U17-19) in the challenging Academy system in Spain (the best development system in the world) and are now playing in 3rd Division National as Seniors: 18-yr old Ander Egiluz (CD Basconia), 20 yr old Mukwelle Akale (Villareal C), and 18 yr old Hayden Canizalez (UP Plasencia)...perhaps the '99-'97 age groups is what U.S. Soccer needs to invest on.
The last comment was good well said usa soccer need to step it up
im gonna cry the i only watch the world cup, watching the last world cup i started to love us soccer. This sucks. No more World cups in my school life.
Clay Walker Stick to school son. Can’t write a proper sentence.
Watch European football
USMNT = United States Mutant Ninja Turtles?
USA, Italy, Netherlands and Chile out of the world cup. They will be missed.
I found out like two days later from a guy in my office that follows soccer that USMNT weren't going to the World Cup. We don't really follow soccer here so it's backpage news especially with MLB, NFL, NCAA Football and NHL going on.
Blame it on the pitch. I remember the game against Costa Rica on March 2013 in Denver, under the snow.
Deberían traer jugadores a México like Landon Donovan
Shakka is completely right. Further the US have created a nation league that puts us further back but don't worry team USA we wud get of it don't cry when your turn operate in a nation league you create. Systematic classicism.
Watching in 2023…im glad we made it past this
The US on the Road record for 2018, 1W-4D-3L throughout both rounds. That’s a problem
Rich kids end up at Bronze Status in FIFA 18 while Poor Kids end up in Gold to Icon Status
They lost because the other team won!!!
jason j sherlock
jason j thank you for your analysis Michael Owen
This panel is the best, and this video shows why. They tell the truth.
My question is what happened to Jamaica? IMO they can be better than Honduras and Panama and they weren't in the hex.
Ryan Hopper because they lost to Panama and Costa Rica. The group stage before the hex
You also have to pay FIFA to compete
They’ve fallen away from when they qualified in France 98 and did themselves proud.
They’re here now. And they finished 7th out of 8 teams. 🤷🏻♂️
Shaka straight going off here. Sing it brother.
will usa and honduras maybe costa rica please hurry up and make a formal complaint,lodge an appeal,to fifa about that phantom goal that panama got,and has so many conseqences,as im sure fifa will order panama replay the game against costa rica,as fifa made south africa replay a world cup game recently over a no handball penalty issue,and this is so much more serious.
Hislop is just devastating when he comes in at 3:30. The whole system needs to be ripped up and replaced
I’ve never been so disappointed in the US team. Looking back, we deserve to watch the world cup. I will always be behind them but i cannot stress the importance of changing how we develop the game in this country. It’s all about the goddamn money
I'm a substitute teacher in Sacramento, CA and I can tell you that soccer is by FAR the #1 sport the kids in my school district play today during recess. White/Black/Hispanic (Boys & Girls) It's a very low income area as well. The scouts needs to get out there and find talent.
What went wrong? EVERYTHING!!!! how do you lose to Trinidad
Gomez is the USA federation and the other ones are the actual fans. He has to stop defending them so much. They were shit. Plain and simple. They didn’t even deserve to be in the “hex”.
Fabio Cannavaro's English is very good.
cant make a good tootball team if you have a system where one has to pay for them to play. most good footballers came from not so well to do backgrounds. examples Ronaldo, Lewandowski, Neymar, Jesus Navas, Ronaldinho etc
I would only wonder if USA moves to Oceania confederation. They would surely qualify for every World cup blinded folded and hog tied.
Now when there will be 48 teams instead of 32 in the World Cup everyone can go through!
Liasos88 how ?
Damn these guys are really pissed.
Ironically, they had just 1 road win again for this 2022 Concacaf WCQ. (@ Honduras) 🤔
So? The USMNT third in the final round of CONCACAF qualifying 20 years ago and had their best modern era (at least 24 teams) FIFA World Cup finish to date.
You may never know. Lightning can strike twice.
"how could this possibly happen" US "soccer" although have improved over the last several years are still miles behind most countries. Here in the states football is a god damn business Some pay thousands to get into certain "top" academies. Just glad my team qualified lmao
We need new talent , these older players just can't keep up ... We need speed and ball control
thse were the young players
You need to create a baseball world cup, or an american football wc, but nobody would give a shit about those boring sports, so, good luck!
fmoa then what are you doing here?
fmoa baseball is the most paid sport so check your facts before you bash a sport your little brain cant comprehend what do strategic games hurt your little peanut brain?
who likes american football?nobody
7:00 this next 30 seconds is something😭😭
Why don't you get rid of Western and Eastern conferences and create a unique league where all teams play against all such as in the European leagues?
Travelling inconveniences
America is too big for that to be practical
I'm glad they didn't qualify. I hope the USMNT never qualifies for another WC
jesus christ, everyone in this panel is so pissed of and there are only 2 americans. Why are the others so angry hahaha
There's so little analysis
That's the shame of it, the non Americans have more fire in their blood for the blood than the Americans and its not even their team. lmao
there are no americans man.you know what i mean
Dark Heel what do you mean by that ?
Has the coach not lost his job yet u can blame players but the coach is the main one to tak responsibility
the name of the sport is not soccer, it is football, the original, played most of the time with your feet.
The most loved and practiced sport on the planet.
Why is the top 3 going to World Cup and 4th going in playoff it’s unfair. In Europe it’s only top spot and then 2nd goes into a qualifier this makes no sense. I understand it’s a World Cup but it’s sooo easy for bang average teams in other parts of the world to make it to the World Cup when good sides in Europe don’t make it
I'd love to see the legendary, Argentine Marcelo Bielsa take over the US organization. If anybody could turn this organization around, it'd be him.
C Perez it would be nice to see the US team finally under a South American coach
South america doesnt give a single shit about u.s futbol
Football I refused to call it that of thing. Is a working class sport not a middle-class spot that's where you going wrong
Twellman should manage the US already.
Bouta just fuck around and get called up soon 😤😤
The way they played against TandT I'm pretty sure they would have got demolished by 8 out of 10 teams in the wc