Add two words “and bearing” to the title and this gets 10x the views. Best video I’ve found on the bearing replacement. Thanks for your time and effort putting this out!
Sorta related to this video, I replaced the fan bearing and fanclutch on my 2006 Cummins truck today. The fan bearing was super easy to press in and out, this video helped a bunch. Thanks!
I’d really like to buy this adapter and do the mechanical fan clutch conversion. What do I do with the stock wiring on my Cummins ? Is there a fooler plug?
There is no fooler plug. Just secure the wiring where it can't get damaged. There will be a soft code that doesn't illuminate the SES light, no other impact.
My 2003 cummins fan adaptor looks like it has a small ridge that the outer bearing race locates to. In other words it can ONLY be pressed in and out from one side of the adaptor.
I've seen on other youtube vids that this clutch works great. However, the ac will not work properly in some applications or something to that affect. I even saw one guy had to go back and add an electric fan to the front of his A/C condenser. Could you please comment on the issues I've mentioned above? Very interested in your response to these issues. Thanks so much.
There are a number of situations that can affect A/C performance. This is almost always an issue at low engine speed, like idling or very low speed driving. Once the vehicle is in motion, the airflow across the condenser from vehicle speed is generally enough for it to function properly. We have had a few brand new Hayden fan clutches that were not performing up to par right out of the box. If the clutch is faulty, and was new and purchased from us, we simply ask that you contact us and we will work with you to exchange it under Hayden's warranty. If it didn't come from us, or wasn't new, that's a different story. Even when working properly, the mechanical fan clutch requires engine heat to engage. When starting a cold engine and turning on the A/C right away, there may not be enough heat coming through the radiator to cause the fan clutch to fully engage, causing fan RPM to be lower and airflow across the condenser to be reduced. As the engine warms and the clutch engages, the airflow will increase and the A/C will perform better. In addition to the above, keep in mind that the electronic fan clutch is controlled by the vehicle computer. Even if the coolant temperature and air coming through the radiator is cold, the computer can activate the electronic clutch and run the fan if the A/C is turned on. There is no way to control a mechanical fan clutch based on the status of the A/C system. It should also be noted that older trucks with high mileage may have debris blocking airflow through the radiator. We have serviced a number of trucks of all brands in our shop that had problems with airflow through the radiator, and when disassembled, there was dirt and debris caked on the front of the radiator fins. This messes with airflow across the radiator, which will also affect airflow across the condenser and airflow to the fan clutch. While this kind of issue isn't as common, it is worth looking at if a particular truck is having a cooling system related issue. In a nutshell, the factory electronic fan clutch has the advantage of being computer controlled, so it can be engaged and disengaged based on a number of conditions the computer is aware of...and has the disadvantage of being more failure prone and much more expensive to replace (especially when you are one of those owners that has put multiple electronic fan clutches in your truck). The mechanical clutches are more reliable and less expensive to replace, but they are limited in operating scope to activation by hot air flowing over the front of the clutch and causing it to engage. These mechanical fan clutches have been used for many years in many different heavy duty vehicle applications, they are generally very durable and work as designed.
I live up in Canada and run snow plows on my trucks in the wintertime. My 2007 Cummins 6.7 will not engage the fan when necessary behind the plow for some reason but otherwise works fine. Do you see this as a good solution to that problem? Is it easy to add in a manual override?
Can't say we've heard of anyone using it in that scenario so it's hard to say how it will act. An alternative would be our fan accelerator switch. This will give you some manual control of the fan clutch when needed. www.strictlydiesel.com/product/4532/driven-diesel-dodge-fan-clutch-accelerator-switch
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. Why would you want to put on a Cummins something from Ford? Fan clutch bearings and plate? I thought the Cummins products were better. I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins Mega Cab 4x4. How will this improve what I already have. Peace
Every light duty diesel engine has it's pros and cons, none are perfect. In this instance, the part in question isn't even a "Cummins" part, it's an engine cooling fan clutch that is outsourced and will be different depending on the vehicle the engine was used in. Several manufacturers use electronic fan clutches that are computer controlled. They are expensive to replace and just not as reliable as the older mechanical style clutches. This adapter was originally developed for use on Cummins engines that were being retrofitted to other vehicles (Ford, GM, etc). As it turns out, many Dodge truck owners have had problems with their electronic fan clutches and wanted to get rid of them in favor of a good old fashioned mechanical clutch that is simply controlled by the temperature of the air coming through the radiator. If your fan clutch is working properly, this may not help you at this time. When it fails, you may want ton consider this as a possible repair option, depending on your needs. Feel free to call us at 623-582-4404 to discuss your needs when the time comes. Hope that helps.
Dennis Schroeder Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. You have made a customer out of me. I am all about getting rid of electronic stuff for the mechanical replacement. I am hoping for right now I will not need to replace mine but if I do, you will hear from me. Again, thank you for showing this stuff, and sharing your knowledge with everyone. Peace
Dennis Schroeder isn’t the electronic clutch there mainly to help the A/C by activating the clutch when the A/C is activated no matter coolant temp? Does this modification affect the Air conditioning ?
Thanks for great video work, Nate. We own both a 5.9L and a 6.7L CTD, but I'm new to this particular issue. Why the adapter? I understand that you're adapter allows the use of a '94 to '97 7.3L Ford fan clutch, but why? I'd also like to know what that piece you used to press the bearing out (and back in) is called? To clarify, it's the silver "cone-shaped" piece that you used between the press ram and the bearing itself. I believe that you called it a "race drive," but I'm not sure. Thanks again for the video and thanks for your time.
Cant say we see a lot of just bearing failures, but on high mileage engines it is certainly something to watch for. When swapping out the adapter to use a mechanical clutch like the one shown here, it is something worth replacing for sure!
How about for those of us without a press, you sell the assembly with the bracket. Add a core charge and we send back our old assembled bracket. That way we know the assembly is put together properly.
If not gerald the pressing part wasnt that bad. I actually ended up going to my local amsoil supplier he had one and done it in about 15 min on a sunday. Majority of small hometown tire shops have presses and will let you use them.
@@southernrunners9796 I travel full time. My truck pulls my home. So if I take it down and cannot drive it is only the 18 gazillion tools I carry that will be available. I unfortunately do not carry an H press.
Oh man I feel you. Mine carries my home also but I am parked for a year lol! On that note what type of work is done to your truck to stay reliable pulling it all over the country? Turbo upgrade,tune, built tranny?
Sorry we missed this question, would have answered sooner if we had seen it. This should work equally well with any quality radiator as it is more intended to resolved the shortcomings of the electronic fan clutch than anything else.
Add two words “and bearing” to the title and this gets 10x the views. Best video I’ve found on the bearing replacement. Thanks for your time and effort putting this out!
Thanks for the input and watching. Glad it helped!
Sorta related to this video, I replaced the fan bearing and fanclutch on my 2006 Cummins truck today. The fan bearing was super easy to press in and out, this video helped a bunch. Thanks!
Very nice of strictly diesel to make this video for people thanks strictly diesel.
I’d really like to buy this adapter and do the mechanical fan clutch conversion.
What do I do with the stock wiring on my Cummins ? Is there a fooler plug?
There is no fooler plug. Just secure the wiring where it can't get damaged. There will be a soft code that doesn't illuminate the SES light, no other impact.
What are the torque specs for the bolts great video
Cooling fan to fan clutch. 15 ft lbs
Fan drive adapter to block 18 ft lbs
Fan clutch to hub. 42 ft lbs
Fan pulley to fan hub. 7 ft lbs
Thank you for your excellent video and special time for us I learned more even how to use the tools properly!!!
Just done this on mine, time will tell if it was worth it. But i must say it was nice to hear the fan roar again :)
Was it worth it?
My 2003 cummins fan adaptor looks like it has a small ridge that the outer bearing race locates to. In other words it can ONLY be pressed in and out from one side of the adaptor.
I've seen on other youtube vids that this clutch works great. However, the ac will not work properly in some applications or something to that affect. I even saw one guy had to go back and add an electric fan to the front of his A/C condenser. Could you please comment on the issues I've mentioned above? Very interested in your response to these issues. Thanks so much.
There are a number of situations that can affect A/C performance. This is almost always an issue at low engine speed, like idling or very low speed driving. Once the vehicle is in motion, the airflow across the condenser from vehicle speed is generally enough for it to function properly.
We have had a few brand new Hayden fan clutches that were not performing up to par right out of the box. If the clutch is faulty, and was new and purchased from us, we simply ask that you contact us and we will work with you to exchange it under Hayden's warranty. If it didn't come from us, or wasn't new, that's a different story.
Even when working properly, the mechanical fan clutch requires engine heat to engage. When starting a cold engine and turning on the A/C right away, there may not be enough heat coming through the radiator to cause the fan clutch to fully engage, causing fan RPM to be lower and airflow across the condenser to be reduced. As the engine warms and the clutch engages, the airflow will increase and the A/C will perform better.
In addition to the above, keep in mind that the electronic fan clutch is controlled by the vehicle computer. Even if the coolant temperature and air coming through the radiator is cold, the computer can activate the electronic clutch and run the fan if the A/C is turned on. There is no way to control a mechanical fan clutch based on the status of the A/C system.
It should also be noted that older trucks with high mileage may have debris blocking airflow through the radiator. We have serviced a number of trucks of all brands in our shop that had problems with airflow through the radiator, and when disassembled, there was dirt and debris caked on the front of the radiator fins. This messes with airflow across the radiator, which will also affect airflow across the condenser and airflow to the fan clutch. While this kind of issue isn't as common, it is worth looking at if a particular truck is having a cooling system related issue.
In a nutshell, the factory electronic fan clutch has the advantage of being computer controlled, so it can be engaged and disengaged based on a number of conditions the computer is aware of...and has the disadvantage of being more failure prone and much more expensive to replace (especially when you are one of those owners that has put multiple electronic fan clutches in your truck). The mechanical clutches are more reliable and less expensive to replace, but they are limited in operating scope to activation by hot air flowing over the front of the clutch and causing it to engage. These mechanical fan clutches have been used for many years in many different heavy duty vehicle applications, they are generally very durable and work as designed.
I live up in Canada and run snow plows on my trucks in the wintertime. My 2007 Cummins 6.7 will not engage the fan when necessary behind the plow for some reason but otherwise works fine. Do you see this as a good solution to that problem? Is it easy to add in a manual override?
Can't say we've heard of anyone using it in that scenario so it's hard to say how it will act. An alternative would be our fan accelerator switch. This will give you some manual control of the fan clutch when needed. www.strictlydiesel.com/product/4532/driven-diesel-dodge-fan-clutch-accelerator-switch
If the threads were reversed could the adapter be used on a 12 valve ? , i have a machine shop and i think i can make one ,
We have never explored doing this, wouldn't even begin to guess without looking closely at it first.
Sorry if this sounds like a dumb question. Why would you want to put on a Cummins something from Ford? Fan clutch bearings and plate? I thought the Cummins products were better. I have a 2006 Dodge Ram 5.9 Cummins Mega Cab 4x4. How will this improve what I already have. Peace
Every light duty diesel engine has it's pros and cons, none are perfect. In this instance, the part in question isn't even a "Cummins" part, it's an engine cooling fan clutch that is outsourced and will be different depending on the vehicle the engine was used in. Several manufacturers use electronic fan clutches that are computer controlled. They are expensive to replace and just not as reliable as the older mechanical style clutches. This adapter was originally developed for use on Cummins engines that were being retrofitted to other vehicles (Ford, GM, etc). As it turns out, many Dodge truck owners have had problems with their electronic fan clutches and wanted to get rid of them in favor of a good old fashioned mechanical clutch that is simply controlled by the temperature of the air coming through the radiator. If your fan clutch is working properly, this may not help you at this time. When it fails, you may want ton consider this as a possible repair option, depending on your needs. Feel free to call us at 623-582-4404 to discuss your needs when the time comes. Hope that helps.
Dennis Schroeder Thanks so much for taking the time to reply. You have made a customer out of me. I am all about getting rid of electronic stuff for the mechanical replacement. I am hoping for right now I will not need to replace mine but if I do, you will hear from me. Again, thank you for showing this stuff, and sharing your knowledge with everyone. Peace
Dennis Schroeder isn’t the electronic clutch there mainly to help the A/C by activating the clutch when the A/C is activated no matter coolant temp? Does this modification affect the Air conditioning ?
I was asking myself the same. at 320k miles my fan bearing just went. Its not like it has ever given me issues.
Thanks for great video work, Nate. We own both a 5.9L and a 6.7L CTD, but I'm new to this particular issue. Why the adapter? I understand that you're adapter allows the use of a '94 to '97 7.3L Ford fan clutch, but why? I'd also like to know what that piece you used to press the bearing out (and back in) is called? To clarify, it's the silver "cone-shaped" piece that you used between the press ram and the bearing itself. I believe that you called it a "race drive," but I'm not sure. Thanks again for the video and thanks for your time.
It is a bearing and race /seal installer. They come in a kit with a bunch of different sizes and usually have a handle to hit with a hammer
My problem is my ecm won't engage my fan clutch
I need this adapter for my truck!
ever tried pressing straight?
What's the bearing size?
Yeah my fan housing bearing wore out too
Cant say we see a lot of just bearing failures, but on high mileage engines it is certainly something to watch for. When swapping out the adapter to use a mechanical clutch like the one shown here, it is something worth replacing for sure!
What are the specs on that bearing splitter?
Not sure of the specs on the one in the video but any HD bearing splitter will work.
Snap on 💪🏼😎 they are really really nice to me🇺🇸
can you just replace the bearing ?
Sure, you can use the same procedures to simply replace the bearing using your other OEM parts.
How about for those of us without a press, you sell the assembly with the bracket. Add a core charge and we send back our old assembled bracket. That way we know the assembly is put together properly.
Gerald, we are working on this. Will probably be a few weeks before we are ready to ship.
If not gerald the pressing part wasnt that bad. I actually ended up going to my local amsoil supplier he had one and done it in about 15 min on a sunday. Majority of small hometown tire shops have presses and will let you use them.
@@southernrunners9796 I travel full time. My truck pulls my home. So if I take it down and cannot drive it is only the 18 gazillion tools I carry that will be available. I unfortunately do not carry an H press.
Oh man I feel you. Mine carries my home also but I am parked for a year lol! On that note what type of work is done to your truck to stay reliable pulling it all over the country? Turbo upgrade,tune, built tranny?
How well will this work with a Mishimoto rad?
Sorry we missed this question, would have answered sooner if we had seen it. This should work equally well with any quality radiator as it is more intended to resolved the shortcomings of the electronic fan clutch than anything else.
Ice box preformance triple pass rad is awesome
@@ericburnham8944 really?!
Great!
I broke my Fan Hub Bearing housing putting that thing in crooked the way he was doing it 1992 Cummins
Best not to start the new bearing crooked