SHUTTER ISLAND (2010) Ending Explained + Analysis
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- Опубліковано 19 лип 2018
- Investigating the many twists and mysterious of the noir horror film SHUTTER ISLAND starring Leonardo DiCaprio and directed by Martin Scorsese. Learn all about the complicated story, hidden clues, and explaining the devastating ending.
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This movie made me think whether I'm sane or not.
if you think that youre sane
one thing I've realised over time, is that insanity is contagious. stay safe
tru
Lol
Max Heller this is very true
Imagine andrew's reaction when he finds out that he is 70% water.
underrated
lol
*confused screaming*
underated comment ever
😭😭
He did finally snap out of his made up world. But lied at the end because he didnt want to live with reality.
That’s deep...
John Newell the author actually refused the theory by saying it would be too self destructive for this character
@@omniphysical I'm 14
@@paperandpavement I see what you did there
John Newell or maybe the doctors convinced/manipulated him that he is Laeddis whereas he is actually Teddy. You never know.
After movie ended I questioned my existence.
Believe me, you're not the only one. My mind's fucked up because I just watched it like 5 minutes back.
@Unknown2234 Unknown Sameeee
same 😐
Lol me too
Same here🙂
And yet it still took Leo getting mauled by a bear to get his Oscar.
Bear tore his ass up
And eating raw horse ass
yea, that bear really deserved that oscar.
Wow, spoiler much;(
@@bunnydexter7178 it's your fault if you havent seen a 4 almost 5 year old Leonardo DiCaprio movie that he got an oscar for. And then you go on a DiCaprio video expecting no spoilers
Andrew: I can’t stand the sight of water.
Also Andrew: Lemme splash my face with some water right quick.
😂 Lizard brain
He does not like seeing it but physical contact with it does not bother him.
Exactly he was sea sick or afraid of water. They dosed him the second he got onto the boat, he was sick from the drugs they gave him
Yep, a total inconsistency.
GenreChowderStudios that was “teddy” 😂
And leo only has one Oscar, that's the real hidden crime- no wonder he went crazy
Fr. He’s my favorite actor of the century and imo one of the best
Fr that man is the best actor in hollywood
He deserves at least two more
@@saifurrahman5981 faxxx
it honestly is INSANE how he only has one, he deserved one for each movie he’s been in tbb
I feel like Andrew clearly also had some favoritism towards his daughter
Yeah that’s exactly as I saw it, I figured it was because she was the first one he found and got a look at. That first look had to be one of the main images that really fucked his mental
Literally took him 3 minutes to mourn his daughter until he remembers his other 2 sons lmao
Yeah his only daughter and the oldest and she reminds him of the girl he saw in war that’s why she’s so special
I hope I was wrong but I think there something missing in the story. We know it is there but we are in denial like the main character. The movie didn't explain enough why he killed her children, the only explanation we got as an audience was there's something wrong in her head the movie didn't us enough reason.
Maybe We as an audience we already have an idea what is the reason why she crazy but we are in denial. We don't want to accpet the reality we discovered.
@@qwerty-so7nk wtf are you talking about ?😭
“He killed her children” lmfaoo. It was the wife who killed the children not him
Also SHE did it bc she was already mentally insane. She tried suicide when she burned their house down, also in the movie she says that she killed them bc it was the only way “they could be saved”. Meaning in her head she was so crazy that she thought killing her children would save her mental health
So I just watched this movie and this movie was a total twist . This movie is now one of my favorites and Leo should have won an Oscar for his performance .
Shanelle Shanelle agreed!
Now*
@Shanelle Shanelle absofuckinlutely
Mark Ruffulo did an EXCELLENT job as well!
Shanelle Warner they make the hardest working actors work 10x harder for an oscar. I truly believe thats why they didnt give it to him
This is such a brilliant movie, the whole time I watched it one thing kept going on in my mind: I need to watch more movies like this.
Ionut Bogdan Tarachiu YES , a cure for wellness is underrated but it’s so good
Girl, interrupted. That movie is amazing also
Money Mule, watch Donnie Darko
sixth sense
Similar movie: The Machinist
Mad that when they were interrogating the staff, they all laughed when the guy said rachel hated the food, because she was a nurse and probably made that complaint to her friends, an inside joke they all laughed about. AND also when they were “searching” for rachel, none of the guards seemed interested or particularly worried, because they knew that it was all just roleplay. Absolutely amazing film. The doctor even stalled on letting him interview the staff because it would be troublesome to prep all of them for the roleplay. Details are crazy good
And also did you see the staffs' and patient's reactions when Edward asks them about Dr. Sheehan? Their eyes automatically shift towards Chuck.
also they probably laugh because it’s hard to take being interviewed by a patient seriously
Can someone explain where they actually do the lobotomy. Because Andrew searched the lighthouse right? No lobotomy room
@@roberts2231 it’s simply not there
@@cadmus204 This doesnt make sense , in none of the cases Chuck would be a really Cop, Option 1 - He will be a doctor Option 2 - He will be part of the Island staff placed there to play Teddy and drug him , hope u understand this , so no surprise there , Imo Teddy is real, they played him very well, if not the movie would be too simple by "revealing" the truth
I like the theory that fire represents his fantasy and water represents reality. During the movie Andrew was never scared of fire, he WELCOMED it. When he was in ward c he lit a match almost every 10 seconds it felt like; he blew up a car; and most notably when he got to the cave (soaking wet, mind you) he immediately lunged towards the fire and stayed no less than a foot away from it the entire time. This helps represent that he clings to his fantasy because he can't bare his reality
YES, he never even flinched when the fire from the match was about to burn his fingertips
Kinda like the irony and symbolism that water puts out fire. He’s afraid of water because it represents what is trying to put out his fantasy or the fire.
And the foreshadowing in the beginning that he couldn’t handle water well
And the fact that he swam to the lighthouse, where he faced his reality
Chuck calls out to teddy at the end and he doesn’t respond to him. I took that as he knows he’s Andrew still and he’s accepting the lobotomy.
they manipulated him the cigarrets what he got from his partner caused the headache and the doctors reaction showed that something is wrong he gived him pill and after that he started to get crazy.
i dont know why they manipulate him but its clearly that he is not crazy he says in begining they call them crazy nobody will belive them even if they are not really crazy.
thats the point they manipulated him so hard that when he meets rachel in the hole she says they think im crazy but im not who belives someone evrybody calls crazy ?
its clearly that the patients are not crazy they made crazy by them after they know to much and asked to much.
the doctors where nazis maybe its the nazi who got shoot by him but he survived because there is the same music when they meet
@@okokokok5269 ok you don't understand the movie at all.
@@christellebilodeau i understand it but 90% think its simple like the end is showing, he was never sick.
there are to many things happen that shows us that he was not crazy when he came to the island they make him crazy why would he give him pills he didnt even know what he has he says migrane and gives him pills also the partner gives him cigarettes and we can see he slowly gets crazy.
so you can say what you want a normal thinking people will see the same evry time and its not what the film shows.
you didnt understand the film because you thinking so simple.
@@okokokok5269 I hope you never get pulled for jury duty, person would be guilty af and you would probably say they were framed
“Mrs. Kearns writes "run" on the paper she slips to Teddy because she knows he has an opportunity to escape while they're doing the whole role play experiment. It's also why she sounds "coached" about what to tell Teddy - she has been. As for the conspiracy about why Mrs. Kearns' hand is empty when she goes to drink the water Chuck brings...she's crazy, let's not forget that. I doubt it was an error in editing.
Shush lady 🤫
The creepy lady in the yard at the beginning of the film does the "shush" motion at Teddy because she knows him, knows that she's playing a game and has been instructed not to spoil it. She's a crazy lady enjoying a game, that's all.
Pay attention to the staff interview scene. When Teddy and Chuck interview the nurses and orderlies it's easy to see just how ridiculous the staff finds the interview. One nurse says something about how 'far from normal' their jobs are - she's making an ironic joke because she's talking to a lunatic dressed as a cop. In that scene, the staff are also not too enthused about the role play, and Dr. Sheehan / Chuck pushes them to answer Teddy's questions. You'll see what I mean.
When Teddy reveals to Dr. Naehring that he's figured out the patient 67 riddle during a staff meeting, Naehring says "What are they doing here?" He's genuinely annoyed that Dr. Cawley is letting Teddy/Andrew roam so freely.
In Ward C Teddy is accosted by a loose prisoner and nearly strangles that prisoner to death. "Chuck" and a guard show up and drag the strangled man away. The guard tells Teddy that he can't come along to the infirmary, while mumbling about how much trouble he's going to be in - for letting a patient strangle another patient.
Watch the guards throughout the film. They get extremely edgy whenever "Teddy" is around, and clutch their guns a little tighter. This is especially true at the beginning when "The Marshals" come to the island. It's because the guards know Teddy is a lunatic and they're not exactly thrilled about the role play experiment. It's also why they are less than enthused about looking for a Rachel Solando who doesn't exist down by the ocean rocks.”
Thank you cause I watched this video to better understand and was still confused about different parts. You cleared up all my questions.
The glass of water was invisible because Andrew was so afraid of water that he blocked it from his mind. He only sees the glass when there's no water in it
Bruh
Thanks Ron you explained it better!❤️
So teddy is true
America is one fucked up country that let their former heroes being tortured and let them die in pain, because why not? Turing saves million of people but government still decided to cut his dck because he was gay
*End of conclusion*
I still wanted teddy to escape from the island, even tho he didn’t exist....
samee
he existed, but he couldn’t escape...
@@leilaagha56 no teddy never existed andrew made him up
I still believe teddy was right, they were experimenting on people and he was just 1 more experiment. The bad guys won just like real life. Lol
@@s9erkills same
Andrew didn't kill his wife out of guilt and anger... The flashback clearly shows her asking him to "set her free" as she realizes what she has done for a brief instant. Andrew also confirms it when asked by the doctor why he killed is wife : "because she murdered our children and told me to let her go". I would argue that murdering Dolores is actually a proof of absolute sacrifice on Andrew's end, as he trully loves her but still accept to let her go to face the horror alone. This way, he frees her from the "insect in her brain, clicking accross her skull, pulling the wires just for fun". He only holds himself accountable for the murders of his children ("i killed them because i didn't get her help"), not her. I apologize if there are any mistakes in my comment, i'm a non-native english speaker.
you bloopers shit
Omg i was thinking the same thing..i dont think andrew ever killed his wife. I believe he took the blame for the murder of his children and thats why hes on the island.
@@matthewtrujillo1575 thanks for your reply Matthew ! I still think he killed his wife, but not out of anger or guild :) out of love more than anything.. that's an important point since that is what triggers his insanity and starts the all cicle
I feel if his doctors had focused more on telling him it wasn`t his fault that his children dies, it could have helped him more than all of this extensive role playing experiment. But then, I`m not a therapist...
@@mamagaoru1237 Very precise analysis... Killing his wife isn't to say that Andrew made that decision out of love for her, Andrew felt an unhealthy level of need but also guilt in murdering the people who murder others (killing Nazi guards who killed the prisoners). In some sense, Andrew's question of "which would be worse, to live as a monster or to die as a good man?" is in reference to Dolores. How could he let her suffer in a hospital like Ashecliffe Hospital and face living as a monster? Her fate, for him, would be better if she died a "good woman". This movie seems like a narrative of how lobotomy affected patients at the time of its introduction as a method of treatment. Although Andrew is perfectly capable of realizing his memories that he blocked out of his children and wife, he would rather act as if it never happened, and that parallels with his time killing the Nazi guards, to which he had never really recovered from to begin with. He would rather kill the part of him that he is most guilty of, his accountability and responsibility of his children and his wife, than to live in acknowledgement that that tragedy ever existed. Similar to how he drank as a recourse and rejection of his murdering the Nazi guards, even though they had just murdered all of the prisoners.
This movie is litreally the best suspense / thriller /mystery movie I have ever seen.
It's a fucking masterpiece.
Watch the unusual suspect
@@JarmalK
i watched both still Sutter Island is much better mostly because it has the hearthbreaking tragidy, the plot twist and most importantly mystery ending, while usual suspect only had the plot twist.
@@fishman4526 well in my opinion the unusual suspect is better
No
Can someone explain where they actually do the lobotomy. Because Andrew searched the lighthouse right? No lobotomy room
This guy is saving me a minimum of 50 bucks per month.
Moses he saved me money I didn’t know I didn’t have lol
ikr
Moses lmfaoooooooooooooooooo
With that sweet $600 a year you're definitely gonna retire a fatcat. Cheap bastard.
@@keeganshigh someone is mad
The part where Leo realizes his gun is fake made me bawl my eyes out. The despair and futility he must feel seeing this representation of his personhood, who he is and his absolution falling apart in his hands just crushes me.
Yup that’s when he broke and realised what the truth was! All the hallucinations stopped it was amazing how one moment does it.
@@thang92 that part was insane. We thought Leo’s perspective was all reality and then the psychiatrist told him it was all to stop him from going from fantasy and reality and break the broken cycle of his fantasies
“B*llshit, so then why am I shaking. What the f*ck did you do to me? You drugged me up didn’t you?”- Leo
Psychiatrist- “No, you stopped taking your medication and we tried a different method. You’re experiencing withdrawals, but this is your last chance to break from your fantasies and calm down before we try lobotomy”
**Leo ends up breaking from his fantasy and is fixed**
“You’re a troubling one. You get brought back to reality, but after a while you start all over again. It happened 9 months ago and you were fine, but it happened again” -Psychiatrist
Such a good movie
Can't believe I just watched this movie for the first time yesterday. God darn wasn't expecting it to be that good I was expecting real horror but this was psychological horror. 10/10 did Leo or Mark get any nominations for this? I thought Ruffalo did really good in this and Leo was so emotional really good
Yeah me too, I was hesitant in watching it because its old and thought its horror but yeah it was not and eas beautiful after all
Yup same I heard about it long time but finally watched it today and wow I’m impressed! More than the acting the plot/storyline was so good. Really makes you wonder at the end if he’s insane or sane, even yourself and reality lol 😂
@@neth2175 Its not old tho
@@Thrawn23. 13 years ago man it's getting up there in age
"Once you're declared insane, then anything you do is called part of that insanity. Reasonable protests are denial. Valid fears, paranoia." -Rachel Solando (cave).
After watching this movie and the doctors declaring Teddy is Andrew and insane. Everyone (audience) instantly declares Teddy as insane and disregards him as a Marshal and everything he does or says even if they rewatch it. Mindfucked.
Your belief???
Yap , you are right . I have different opinions but yours again , fucked up my mind again .
I thought that also
I actually think this coould be the other way arnd and he refuses to live as a murderer while he knows he actually is a Marshal and his partner tells the others they couldn't turn him into a "ghost" by shaking his head!
@Jay Xiong Yeah. Idk why people think that what Teddy and the audience are told from the doctors is the truth. That's precisely how they get people in there in order to experiment on them. They screw with the mind of their victim through the hallucinogen and conversations which lead to confusion in order to make it seem like he or she is insane.
I will be honest...I was a die hard believer in the fact that Leo was sane and he was drugged and convinced he was crazy. I based all of this on when he was interviewing the lady patient and after she sent his partner for water she wrote "run!" on a piece of paper. I have since let go of this theory.
This seems to be the biggest question for me though....why did she secretly write "RUN" ?
He was drugged, they even convinced us he was insane. Watch it 4 times. You'll see it
Super Man Girl in the cave said something about Kafka Kafka is famous author who wrote a book called process look it up and u will understand everything, this movie is so good that it conviced a big amount of people that he was insane.
Hey Gibbzy Dan what's our next move? Because we might need to lobotomize you if you regressed.
But how did they get him off the island in the first place? If Adam is the worst patient there, doctor or not, I don’t think that it would’ve been safe to let him off the island.
Small detail: At the beginning when the guys were asked to hand over there guns, Leo was capable of unbuckling his gun holster and Mark Ruffalo character was struggling with it. Showing Leo’s character gun experienced And were role-playing from the start.
Awesome
Literally says it on the video
I too watched the video lol
@@blustgt8814 🤣🤣🤣
Wow you’re so smart! I could’ve never thought that after the video stated this in the first couple in minutes..thanks Sherlock 😩🙏🏾
Second twist: this movie is actually just a dream in inception. He wakes up after dying from the lobotomy.
This can be so true, so many dialogues and scene in the movie seems to be referencing inception, specially the scenes with his wife .
another thing to note is that this movie and inception both came out on the same year
No matter how many FUCKING times I watch this movie. I can always watch it from teddy and Andrews perspective and it works so well both ways at the exact same time. I still want it to be my boi teddy.
Me and the boys felt bad what he had to go thru, you know, his kids being murdered by his wife
Same I always watch it from Teddy’s perspective and still think that collie is the bad guy
That was a whole point of the last line
To live as Andrew or to die as Teddy
he chose to die as Teddy a good man
Rather to live as Andrew facing his reality
i am still 100% on Teddy tbh. i guess the key part is the scene of Rachel in the cave. i strongly believe that she is real, and not an imagination. his other imaginations look extremely surreal and dream-like while Rachel in the cave does not. she looks real. think about it, Teddy meets her, sleeps, and wakes up and he sees her which to me proves that she is indeed real. the only other arguments against her is that she "doesn't exist", which to me is a weak argument
@@Justlilmonster at the same time, many of Andrew/Teddy's dreams and hallucinations included fire. From the apartment burning, matches burning, and then his conversation in the cave takes place with a fire burning that covers most of the screen. Could be a sign that it was also in his imagination. 🧐
So this dude suffers from PTSD, psychosis, DID and multiple phobias at the same time... Jeez...
It happens man it's a downhill if you fell from mental stability
That's what it takes to get into a movie...
Or nothing of this ever happens and the doctors trick him into believing that he is mentaly ill, so he did not discover the truth.
@@kuessebrama but how did the doctor get the picture of Rachel he saw in his visions?!
his wife literally fucked him up
Did you notice when he held Dolores in his arms when she turned into ash, in the burning living room, she was also bleeding out, where he shot her.
I didn't untill you pointed that out. Thanks❤️
Yeah, upon my first viewing I found that really odd that a person who burnt to death would be bleeding from what looked like a gunshot/stab wound.
It only made sense towards the end.
While part of me questioned whether or not Leo really was a detective, the end wasn't ambiguous at all. He realized his guilt. He understood that he was responsible for the death of his wife, and blamed himself for the death of his children. And he chose to go and erase those memories any way he could. In essence dying as a "good man" because he wouldn't remember what he had done.
The movie was representing what doctors argued on how to take care of mental patients that had extreme violent tendencies
They tried for 2yrs to calm him down where he wouldn’t hurt others and in the end it didn’t work. The doctor tried medications and then tried to live his fantasies by going along with what he said in order to stop his hallucinations, but in the end it didn’t work
Then the doctor who chose to do lobotomy on those type of patients ended up doing it his way
I think the ending meant that Leo decided that he couldn’t live in reality and decided to give up and not fight to be cured, hence the lobotomy
@@leonardomichua They didn't try to "calm him down." They tried to bring him back to reality so that he could begin to recover. I think they succeeded, but his idea of recovery was not the same as theirs. They wanted him to learn to live with his actions. He wanted to erase them.
I would have never picked up in the one scene the glass of water he is holding disappears because of his fear of water . Ingenious touch
That scene is actually borderline inconsistent. He wasn't hydrophobic (he had no issue using water to wash his face etc.) He suffered from a form of thalassophobia which is a fear of bodies of water. Such people usually don't associate water in general to something negative, just large bodies like lakes, rivers, oceans, etc.
Yess and when he washed his face. It was completely dry when he looked up in the mirror
Yet he jumped in the water twice.
@@OnlyUknow2 towards the end of his treatment when he was getting close to finding out his truth or the truth
That scene could also be just a mistake!
One of the hardest mind f***ks I have ever had from a movie
matthew kirkland. You should watch primal fear. It’s such a good movie with nice mind fucks
Did you just censor yourself? On UA-cam? Why tho??
Some other favourite psychological thrillers (besides shutter Island) are "Secret Window" , "Identity", "Triangle", "Spider" , "Inland Empire", "Mulholland Dr" , "The Usual Suspects", "Blue Velvet", some great movies that kept me guessing right til the end. Admittedly not many movies have that affect on me, so many now days are dull and predictable.
Denzel Lupheng Shut the fuck up
Chris. G thank you for this. ill will check all these movies out.
I finally got it!
"What would be worse to live as a monster or to die as a good man"
To live as Andrew or to die as Teddy
Thank you
You did me proud, son.
After about 7 viewings I can confidently say that I'm convinced Andrew didn't regress, he just didn't want to live in a world where he has done the things he's done
I find it funny that the "Would you rather live as a monster or die as a good man?" qoute is being said to the guy who in two years would play The Hulk.
(And yes, I know the actor's name.)
Thats the irony of it all
****Die a good man***
@@emanuelsauz12345 calm down Manual
Saturn-splainer Marquise ruffledfeathers is the dudes name
And his response is "why not live as monster hero?"
Leonardo’s acting during the scene where he finds the drowned kids... terrific! absolutely incredible
I love your profile pic!
criminally talented guy
No doubt Leo is a phenomenal actor, but I have to disagree here, I actually think this scene was terribly acted. His reaction was not true at all. If I came home to my 3 kids dead I would be on my knees howling and screaming. He didn’t even ask “what have you done!?” to his wife. There was a reaction there, but it wasn’t enough. Bad acting or bad directing? Either way it was an amazing movie overall.
@@AngeloDiBen agreed ma friend
@@AngeloDiBenngl I don’t think anyone truly knows how they would react to coming home to their 3 kids being murdered by their wife, I think Leo did a great job and the ‘what have u done’ would be very cliche and over done
I've seen the movie 4 times now it's an amazing film. I don't think he regressed in the end, I think he just didn't wanna live with the truth. And a full frontal lobotomy doesn't kill the patient, it basically just renders them into an empty shell. The doc even explains what a lobotomy is.
He definitely knew. That look he gives Chuck in the end proved that. It’s really sad.
This movie is very well written. The end of the story could be interpreted in two ways
1: Andrew is mentally insane. He killed his wife and had a mental break. He could not except reality and thus had to remain on the island indefinitely.
2: Teddy never killed his wife. Teddy was never mentally insane. Everything that Delores said in the cave is true. Teddy gets his mind wiped in the lighthouse and lives the rest of his days out on the island, trapped there by the doctors so that he would not tell the world the truth.
I personally believe that Andrew truly is insane. But the amazing way this story is written makes it so that you can look at it two different ways.
I don't believe he was insane
David Ortiz how do say so
David Ortiz everything points to him having severe ptsd and other things. in the end he was cured of his fantasy world and avoidance of the events that scarred him. however he was not cured of his mental hell/prison. he couldn't deal with the guilt and trauma. both from his time in the military and the dreadful event back home.
Yes he was insane after shooting his wife because she murdered their children. She was mentally insane and he didn’t get her any help. He went insane himself after seeing his children all murdered
He wasn’t cured he was insane.
This movie was one giant roller coaster.
Exactly what i thought
When I read the book years ago, the scene in the lighthouse was legitimately one of the most revelatory moments I've experienced with a piece of media. It's actually incredible how this story manages to forge a cohesive narrative, only to flip it upside down right at the end and reveal that it was actually something entirely different the whole time. Each detail of the greater picture is still there, but when viewed from this new perspective it forms a completely different whole. Often, authors fail to execute twists like these in a way that feels satisfying, but this whole story builds up to this one twist, and it all makes sense.
I'd recommend people to read the book, but... if you're reading this you either already have, have watched the movie, or you've been spoiled by this video regardless, so... there's not much to be done about that.
This movie is a perfect example or analogy for the effects of trauma and projection. Our minds tell or make up stories so that we can live. Or at least try to have some type of peace in this horrible world. Sometimes when we can’t deal with reality, we project evil that we have done on to other people. We make them out to be “the bad guy”, because it fits our own narrative that allows us to feel less guilty. Like the doctors kept stating in the movie, Andrew had great “defense mechanisms”. This story Andrew made up in his head is just a defensive mechanism, created to take away any responsibility for what he had done. The truth of what he did was just too hard to bear. What an excellent movie. It’s my favorite movie of all time. This can happen to any of us. And on a lesser scale it already has. We all make up or believe things that we subconsciously know isn’t true, so we can feel better in this life.
Everyone is missing one of the biggest clues that he got cured, the final scene when he asked “is it was better to live as a monster or die a good man”,, he looked right at the fire in mark ruffalos hand as he lit the cig, instead of covering the top or avoiding looking at it, and knew the orderlies were coming for him and with no hesitation just walked up to them.
So was he insane or was he getting mind fucked and knew it?
@@kiritoakemininja5100while i am unsure myself i think Alex M is saying that he KNEW he had gone insane and that it was all a roleplay constructed by the island, but he no longer cared if he got lobotomized, so he just kept going as if he was delusional
@@kiritoakemininja5100 from the quote he said i believe he knew what happened but couldn't accept reality so he faked regressing back into insanity
@@haidenmartin5910 yup, he couldn't live with the guilt of what he did in his past. so he just decided suicide was the best option
@@kiritoakemininja5100 he knew everything and that he killed his wife but didn’t have to live with the facts her kids and wife were dead so he decided to continue the role play and get lobotomized cause he didn’t want to live with the facts that’s why he walked up to staff
This may sound pretentious af, but Andrew's descent into the facility where they keep the most dangerous patients was kinda like him metaphorically descending into the suppressed part of his mind.
Or it's just a cool-ass scene.
Wow!!!! I never thought of it like that. Nice observation. 👍
Its not pretentious, and don't be afraid to be smart
That’s not pretentious. It’s an interesting take
big brain: doood and the guy he was attacking was locked up just like he locked up and repressed his memories oooh ddddddddddddduuuuuuuuuuuuddddddddddeeeeee looooooooooooooooooooooooooooool
@@gerardjagroo what a comment
I feel like this movie is highly underrated. It didn't receive the praise Inception did and it may just be better.
I love this breakdown. I went back and watched the entire movie again, and I saw all the clues which makes me appreciate this movie even more. At the 17:47 minute mark, you can see Dr Sheehan and an orderly look at each other and smirk while Teddy is interrogating the staff. Amazing! These are the things you wouldn’t notice unless you watched the movie a second time. What a masterpiece!
That scene broke my heart.. seeing all his children dead 😭
vj dc ikr. Especially babies in abortions
Especially when he was kissing them as he was walking towards the grass
It is what it is
LusciousLady no.
Leo's acting was phenomenal. 👌
Notice how fire is a motif of deception and water is truth
not always.. in the cell when he was talking to the guy, he kept lighting his matches to see him.. but the guy was telling the truth
Aidan Petre I only liked this so that there were 69 likes
JiZz2Xtreme / The guy was lying, did you not watch the movie?
@@JiZz2Xtreme the guy told the truth but andrew fit in the story into his fiction.
he doesnt like the sea (water=truth) cant escape the sea (truth) so he dies
I taught they drugged him from the beginning and they were trying to make him mentally insane but yeah it opened up to me at the end. What a twist!
Once he started to have weird dreams and seeing stuff i knew he was probably a patient living in his made up world. The final scene confirmed that theory i had
@@adrianapereira3552 yeah that because Chuck gave him cigarettes
@@hadiputraw8083 How did the doctor have his dead kids’ pictures?
@@MrMalicious5 they Made it up
@@hadiputraw8083 Weird how they would have pictures of people Andrew was seeing in his visions and dreams. Doesn’t make sense that the doctors seemed upset at their treatment “failing” at the end either.
Guilt is such a haunting emotion to have, but at the same time feeling guilt & remorse for the bad things you've done is what makes you human.
Man. This movie is 10 times better than Inception! Why is it so unpopular?
Zeoxaos no idea
A lot of people didn't understand it so everyone just said it was stupid
Zeoxaos I agree
Why are all the comments saying this movie was unpopular? Did I live through a different reality? The feedback on this movie was overwhelming positive when it came out...
Did you even watch the video? From 24:22
I literately stopped this video 1:30 in and watched Shutter Island for the first time. When the credits rolled I started it over again. Such an intriguing film!
Arkham Dingus you watched two times in a row. Man it was good but I would watch it a second time right away unless I was confused about the movie and some parts
Silver Reyes he ment the UA-cam video
Same! I honestly just wanted the spoilers but I stopped at the same spot just to watch the full movie, definitely worth it! Very enthralling and a very facinating plot twist.💯
I very rarely watch a movie multiple times, but this one not only got me to read the book; I've watched it at least 5 times now! All about those layers. I'm not even a huge Scorsese fan overall, but this is truly one of the most underrated movies! Fantastic acting as well.
Way to review a movie, you really hit the nail on the head and dug into the questions everyone was asking. What a great movie I may be almost 12 years late but it was amazing
Jeezus man, as an Iraq/Afghanistan Vet (infantry) this movie really creeps me out. Like when PTSD goes wrong you know? Not that it ever goes right. Chilling
Andrew Matseshe thank you for your service sir
Andrew Matseshe thank you for your service sir. Edit: sorry didn't mean to copy your comment.
Inevermiss 102 hey brother and sisters, it was just a job. Thank you but I was just doing my part. Love this channel and all the fans!
Been with the infantry too. And yes it is really dangerous to lose yourself in the job. You won't be the same once you return.
My friend. I don't mean to disturb you more, but there is a document you may want to see. That ALL who watched this movie may want to see. The truth is Andrew is not crazy. Research operation MKULTRA and the church committee investigation. The 50s were a dark time and the Rockefeller commission report shows the darkest part of out history.
When you talk about the story, you should also mention the screenwriter. I get that you're a fan of Scorsese, but damn, the screenwriters never get any love, despite how much work they put in.
Facts
No script, no movie. It's as simple as that. Thanks for speaking the truth.
So true the only screenwriter who gets a lot of fame & money is esterhaus who wrote basic instinct, flashdance, jagged edge & the horrible show girls lol. Another I know well bc I'm a star wars fan is lawrence kasdan who write the empire strikes back. Frances ford coppola won his first oscar writing the screenplay for patton. Now these days it seems movies want the director to write & direct the movie.
Are you aware though that this movie is based upon the novel written by Dennis Lehane?
The....the book? The book, man! Most of the script is just copying lines from the book. The film is great, yeah, but the people making it were ultimately just adaptaing a pre-existent work. None of this would've existed without Dennis Lehane.
I am a year late and only watched the movie once, but why is no one talking about the rats that appeared before meeting Rachel in the cave?
okay ikr?? i’m still so confused about that
Maybe it signifies that she’s ratting them out on what they do ..?
@@emini585 yeah definitely.....
someone said to him before that scene about rats being stuck in the maze so maybe it shows andrew will never leave the island as he wont move on from his theory
It's a meta throwback to the great end scene in Leo's other movie, the Departed.
At the end Andrew took the cigarette and watched Chuck light it. He didn't look away or put his hand over the flame. He was free of his fear. He was sane.
What fear did he have? He was around fire multiple times throughout the movie.
@@OnlyUknow2 he is slowly getting over his fear and becoming "cured"
@@OnlyUknow2 Yeah, I thought he was supposed to be scared of water.
YES! I hope this means we get a Donnie darko ending explained soon
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YES THIS
Hart hat great idea.
Hopefully it comes up on the votes
Yes please
It really brings awareness to Mental Health and how imperative is to listen, understand and seek help for each other.
Yes
This is one of the most underrated movie's of all time. It's also one of my favorite movie's as well. Everything about this movie is spectacular. From the score, to the set design, to the atmosphere, to the actors and their INCREDIBLY performances. ABSOLUTELY EVERYTHING about this movie is amazing. I NEVER excited Scorsese to direct a movie like this.
What makes this film next level, is that we choose to interpret it our own way. Whatever way we decide to think really happened in the film, is true to our reality. It’s kinda like a shutter island of our own lol
What’s your take, Jake?
11:04 I thought is was a mistake. Never thought it would be such a strong symbolism... damn
SAme holy fuck
and I thought I was tripping
@@yt-sh hahaha me 2 i literally replayed this scene for 5 times
same man
I usually don’t like films with open endings, most seem lazy, not very open, or are just done bad, but this movie was an example of a good open ending, I hope conversations about this film and the ending are talked about for a long time.
not really open ended he chose to be Lobotomized
King Stallion was he cured or was he not cured you completely missed the point
Sauge Smith I don't think it was open-ended at all. It was just a twist.
Sauge Sm
@@meatballdoesstuff5673 he was cured nigga
I watched this for the first time alone in the house in the middle of the night during a rain storm. I'm sure this setting helped fuck my mind harder than it would during a clear day with people around.
I like how you started with the twist then told the story , so you could point out the little hints along the way.
Just a minor but interesting detail, when we see the Nazi lying on the floor bleeding out, in the background is playing a song that was by a Jewish person, which is unlikely to happen irl as we know how the Nazis interacted with Jews, this further proving that Andrew is a unreliable narrator
Salt And Vinegar it would be cool to assumed the writers did that on purpose
@@theodoremastermind6898 they did. Why wouldn't they. Did you think they'd just slap on some random music on a dead guys corpse?
@@theodoremastermind6898 I think its probably done on purpose. That's why the German Dr. specifically names the piece.
Actually I did hear that there was a FEW jewish soldiers (hidden their religion background) in the army if I recall correctly from a few history documentaries, so not every soldier that was in the Nazi army were 100% Nazis, the soldiers that were jewish in the ranks had to keep that a secret and likely died with that secret on the frontlines which honestly is a better death than being either burnt alive or starved to death.
This is one hell of a time consuming role play treatment programme.
9 months late but its because they say that he is their most problematic and dangerous patient, he is their top priority.
@@harrh4528 4 days late but i think you're right
2 weeks late I wanna add that his case is highly complex, he's very intelligent and the experiment stands the highest chance of success w his case
One year late(lol), the film discuss also the change in the treatment for mental patients. Doctor Crawley wants to focus on therapy by speech and not like his colleagues lobotomy and overuse of drugs. He puts so much effort in this, because he wants to show his therapy form as the one most successful
@@harrh4528 9 months late, cool
i wish i could erase my memory from remembering this movie and watch it again, and to it again xD thats how good this damn movie is
You perfectly explain why I love this movie and The Prestige so much. Both literally scream their twist at you without you even noticing it, it's fantastic
This is a movie where every viewing showcases some new detail. No matter how many times you watch it, you will ALWAYS see something new.
A true masterpiece
THANX FF!!!!
I love this movie. Really stuck with me, I always felt that he chose to be lobotomized in the end
he did choose to be lobotomized, he made the staff think the progress didnt work so that they would resort to the final solution. he asked if it's better to live as a monster or die a good man, making the choice to be lobotomized to forget what he did so that he can eventually die thinking he is a good man.
tillie that’s what i thought too. Those last words were what sold it for me and the lighthouse at the end is the icing on the cake.
tillie but that doesn’t change the fact that this movie is so fucking mind-boggling.
tillie he also doesn’t respond to chuck when he calls out “teddy” to him, further solidifying that quote teddy/Andrew made.
Friends Of Red Demi exactly
Rewatching this movie with the thought that Teddy/Andrew is actually the 67th patient makes you able to notice more about how each of the staff members interact with him. Every time Dr. Cawley speaks its a hint back that he is a patient from the beginning.
But he wouldn't be the 67th patient had he been there for 2 years--Right? He would be one of the 66 with a cell. My interpretation is that Teddy is NOW the 67th patient, meaning he was a US marshal a few days ago, but he's a patient now.
The whole time I wanted to believe Ted was not crazy and everybody on the island was indeed trying to brainwash him. However, it seems the movie confirms through some minor details that it's not actually the case.
For instance, how did the doctor at the lighthouse know the question that Ted asks in his visions? "Why are you all wet baby?" The only way for him to know that is him already hearing Ted talk about it in previous occassions, thus proving he was indeed a patient in the island for some time already, and not some sort of government hostage taken captive for experimentation.
No, you're making an assumption that 'Ted' always had those dreams, the movie never shows the water drowning once except saying the fictitious Rachel they were searching for did it.
It could be argued, the doctor implanted those memories to confuse him.
And then the 'flashbacks' of his wife wet happened. After the doctor told him.
Also it's just a movie... I don't think this form of therapy would be helpful, feeding the patient's fantasy through such extensive, grandiose island search role-play, ...
Also the movie makes it intentionally confusing when he's having a dream in a dream, and wakes up from the dream to another dream to reality, and his supposed 'hallucinations' are completely realistic, the conflicting narrative/debate being, is he being drugged causing hallucinations/flashbacks, or is it withdrawal from being off medicine that he WAS on as the doctor told him?
I really wanna believe that the whole thing was really just an elaborate conspiracy to make Teddy believe he was insane but damn 🤔
I wonder why, when he had his breakdown and said that he really murdered his children by not listening to his wife, noone told him it wasn`t his fault? It may not have helped but it feels like something a therapist would need to say.
They convinced a sane man that he was crazy, I can make a video just like this to prove that point.
@@annaf3915 his mental breakdown was because he couldn't believe it was his fault. But in reality, he never got his wife the care she needed, and because of his negligence, led to the deaths of their kids. It was his fault, which is why when he finally faces reality, he admits it was his fault because turned to alcohol and ignored his wife's illness.
@@DMVHipHopStop his final words to Dr. Shiran prove otherwise, proving he was crazy and did murder his wife, and has accepted it, but would rather be lobotomized. The look on his doctors' faces show that they didn't want this outcome, proving they really were trying to help him.
@@Lionimia did you take English lit ?
This movie broke me. I'm convinced the therapy worked and he didn't regress. So sad. But I highly recommend it. lol
I also agree, he progressed but did not want to live with the guilt of his action everyday in a remote rock.
The therapy did work but he tricked them into thinking he reset to get lobotimized because he didnt want to live the rest of his life knowing what he did and living as a monster he'd rather die a good man like his question to Chuck "Would you rather live life as a monster or die a good man?"
I think he kill his wife rp take the pain away from her have to face the truth about killing her 3 kids so he took that guilt for her. I think most of his guilt is from.the War. Seeing innocent die on top of one another and also killing unarm German that they captured. Such good movie very underrated. I firmly believe the core of his heart is good.
@Rayne I agreed bit I dont feel.sas for him I feel for him. Living with all the guilt during the war and his wife and kids do you even want to live and living without your wife and 3 kids will you ever be happy. I know hope I dont sound like I need therapy.
vu le his wife was mentally ill and he didn’t want to believe it. After she killed their children he felt that he was the one that caused it for not getting his wife the help she needed. When she said “set me free” he had already reached his emotional end and killed her and took the blame . This fucked his mind up and made a fantasy of what had happened with hide wife and not having any children.
This is one of my favorite movies of all time. The first time I saw this movie I didn't understand it at all, the second and third times though I really was able to grasp what was happening and I truly can't praise it enough. Any movie that makes me watch it multiple times is deserving of so much praise.
It kinda sucks I watched the movie and at the end I believed that teddy was real and when “his partner” shook his head at the doctors he was signaling that the mind control didn’t work and he still knew he was teddy.
@Yusuf Sabir at the end Andrew knows and has come to terms with what he has done. he pretends to regress back to his mentality of “teddy” so that way he can have his memories erased/die, so he doesn’t have to face knowing the reality of what happened with this wife and children.
@Yusuf Sabir he's not teddy, he's Andrew.
@@melodymelo9933 yea I think so too because he says teddy to him when walking off the step and he doesn’t turn around and answer.
@Yusuf Sabir nah he’s Andrew. 3. Things give it away. 1. his quote: “which would be worse? To live as a monster, or die as a good man?” 2. His body language and tone. He doesn’t seem as nervous and is detective/marshal self 3. When Dr. Sheehan, calls out for him (teddy), he doesn’t turn back
this is the movie leo should have won an oscar for...well a lot of his movies he should have
When Teddy/Andrew breaks the gun in half, it starts dripping water, (20:27) which fits in with the whole water theme
Or....it could've been a water gun😂😂🤷🏻♀️
Thank you for clearing that up, I was definitely a little confused when he said Chuck at the end. The thought that he was able to make a choice is a minor comfort in my mind. Fantastic movie with a very somber ending.
Man I’ve never cried so hard when he was holding his kids in the lake. I’m a grown man, had my kids sleeping in the next room. What a movie.
This guy did a fkn awesome Explaining five stars for him
He’s the best at explaining vids. Watch more of his stuff.
Just watched this movie again on Netflix... such a masterpiece.
Think this is the 3rd or 4th of ur videos I've seen & I realise how important ur videos are. Their really handy for people to watch to understand what the movies are about without having to watch them again. Perfect for someone like me that has absolutely no short term memory since having my stroke. So I can watch any movie, but they never make any sense, coz I can't remember the start of the movie, by the time I get to the end. But also why I buy movies instead of renting them. Coz they are all brand new to me in a few months!
I remember the scene where it all comes back to him with such clarity even though I only saw the movie one time. It actually made me cry. Brutal scene, brilliant acting.
Man, your channel is great dude.
Andrew Matseshe is gay
BOI Goff whatever you think man
Andrew Matseshe thank you for your service
The connection between this movie and Inception is so interesting to me. All of the people on the island play into his fantasy and indirectly give him hints of his real past and life, the key idea of Inception, putting an idea into someone's head indirectly.
In my opinion a theme that crops up is that Andrew seems to feel that the only method of dealing with his mistakes and trauma is to flee from them, through alcohol (for his PTSD), leaving the city (in hopes of escaping the truth of his wife's mental deterioration), killing his wife (so as not to have to live with his own guilt at not getting her help and feeling complicit in their children's deaths) and the subsequent involuntary mental break and adoption of a new personality (over killing her and the resurgence of his horror over the acts committed during the war). The final line he utters doesn't sit right with me: if it is an admission that he's firmly grounded back in reality he could choose to live as the monster and face the demons of his past, but opts for the ultimate escape of the lobotomy. There's a comparison to be made between him and the commander at Dachau- if he'd asked for mercy for his men would the German soldiers still have been killed or would they have been tried for their crimes? Does lobotomizing Andrew result in more lobotomized patients in the future due to the failure of the experimental, therapeutic method? Are acts wherein you save yourself pain and suffering but perhaps cause future suffering for others inherently wrong? Does he die a good man? These are moral questions I am not fit to answer.
I read the book, never watched the movie but I'm amazed at how close so many things I've seen mirror the book completely. Even some conversations are word-for-word. For what it's worth, from what I've seen so far I think the movie does a better job with certain things.
Rick, I listened to the book through the Audible App, and was blown away with how much of the movie came directly from the book. Like you stated above, almost all of the movies dialogue is word-for-word taken from the book.
Is the book better? like worth reading or just watch the movie a couple times?
I read the book many years before the film. I think they did an amazing job with this.
@@ryankasik7911 definitely worth reading. I was blown away by it.
@@tamvee i just watched the movie first. is the book still worth a read if you've seen the movie or is it pretty much the same
I like to imagine that the physician doesn't let DiCaprio commit suicide by doctor and has the lobotomy called off like a minute after the credits roll lmao
But he made it pretty clear that after that experiment failed he won't be in charge of that anymore so he cant stop it.
The doctor who played his partner is an even lower pay-grade.
But I am really sure that even if even if he had that much to say, he wouldn't interfere because Andrew "told" him, that he chooses to get this lobotomy because it holds the chance for sending away all that guilt and pain.
Dr. Sheeran probably ran to them and talked to the group. He probably told how he didn’t regress, he just is depressed and needs help to get through the depression he now lives with. After all, his job is to help the mentally unstable. And after all they have gone through for Andrew, help with his depression wouldn’t be out of the groups reach.
Thank you thank you thank you... It's been years since I've watched this film but I finally understand after years later what was happening Martin scorcese is a genius
Damn I just watched it last night and I was SHOCKED, much more than from any horror movie or anything like that
When I watched this waaaay back, my mind was really blown. This is one of my "mind blowing twists" all of time. It really caught me off guard and made me more observative towards every scene in a movie.
so Jack drowns in Titanic & is reliving his hell in Shutter Island 😨😝
Christy H actually the theory with Titanic is that jacks heart restarted and became Jay Gatsby
Good theory i like it
How? They're completely different characters. Nothing alike. Have different names. We're alike during different times. Your theory makes no sense.
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Tehn what's your number, we can talk about it on the phone
Thanks for explaining the disappearing glass of water. I legit thought it was a post-production blunder. Very insightful!
I am so glad you posted this video of explanation! In such detail makes me appreciate the well acted made movie to watch AGAIN! thank you!
Ben Kingsley was sensational in this. What an actor!
I loved this movie. Thanks so much for reviewing it. I've always thought the experiment actually worked the last time and that he just chose to make them believe differently. He didn't want to live with the memories of his dead children or the murder of his wife.
Kewanna Staples can you imagine
Loralyn F. Right? And I don't think I would've been able to handle it either. He actually told his Dr why he would rather be lobotomized in the end.
The Tillman Review That would be even more sad for him to make that decision for nothing.
Kewanna Staples i agree
Kewanna Staples which makes it more hearbteaking
I questioned my own sanity at the end of this movie. I 100% believed he was Teddy until I watched your summary. Excellent analysis, thank you.
i really appreciate how you broke this down thank you
It's nice to see you talk about a movie you really like, it really makes a difference in how you talk about it