I’m a SC and Michigan fan so I might be biased but the SC vs Clemson rivalry feels like one of the most hateful to me behind obviously Michigan and OSU, maybe the Iron bowl and Red River.
I think the LSU and Arkansas rivalry mainly fell apart because Arkansas just isn’t good anymore. It’s more of a beat down than a rivalry at this point.
@@Homedepotorangeanother thing is why is Georgia southern Alabama a bad rivalry if there was beef navy vs notre dame is a rivalry game and navy is way worse then dame but it is still one
As an FSU fan I think it's weird and kind of sad for a team to not have a real rival. We've got two! Half of our fans say Miami is our biggest rival and half say UF. And speaking of the Gators, they've got two big time rivals as well--FSU, who they play on rivalry weekend, and Georgia, who is such a big rival that the game is played in a neutral site (Jacksonville). How has a program like LSU existed for so long and never developed a true rivalry?
Also, I know a lot of these really old rivalries have a trophy that the winner gets to take home. These old traditions are one of things that make college football so awesome. But you don't need a trophy for a rivalry and when they try to force a trophy on two teams it just seems silly. FSU will get out the old gator head when we beat Florida, but there is no trophy for that or the Miami game. Nor is there a special name for either matchup (and no, no one really calls it the "Sunshine State Showdown" so just stop with that, broadcasters). It's the Gator game and the Miami game, and whatever the call it in Gainesville and wherever it is that Miami fans live.
I think you're mislead about LSU, they have plenty of true rivals. Ole Miss, Miss St, and Tulane are their true rivals. All three of those schools have matches with the Tigers going back as far as the the 1800s, with plenty of legendary matches filling the lore since then. However, in recent decades, LSU began to eclipse their former rivals in terms of talent, leading to schools like Florida, Auburn, and Bama replacing them. I do feel like since Ole miss has improved in the past few years that they feel more like a true rival now, but for awhile that rivalry felt dead atleast to Tiger fans. Hope this helps clear up any confusion.
What's funny is the "Golden Boot" trophy was the first rivalry trophy I ever remember seeing as a kid. I'm smack in the middle of the traditional B1G territory so I may not be as well versed of the SEC as others but I distinctly remember seeing LSU-Akransas play for the boot in the late 90s.
One thing I didn't realize until recently is that the change to the cross-division matchups in the SEC didn't happen at the same time as the 2012 expansion. Mizzou and A&M **WERE** initially matched up together as cross-division rivals just like they did with the previous wave of expansion teams (ARK and SCAR), but then in 2014 they randomly decided to reshuffle the scheduling for the four expansion teams so that we'd get Arkansas-Missouri and Texas A&M-South Carolina every year. Another weird example of a forced rivalry is Louisville-Virginia. It only existed because Louisville took the place of Virginia's old rival, Maryland, in the ACC.
Dude I’m a South Carolina fan and none of consider Texas A&M a rival and Texas A&M feels the same way. They did the same thing with us and Missouri making it a trophy game.
@@batmangummies5393 What happened!? I mean North Carolina still holds their rivalry with the Gamecocks why not the Wolfpack? But like I always tell others NC State is 100% a SEC School
@@SportsFan838 we just only schedule each other like once a decade now, it was pretty big back in the 80’s from my understanding, personally I’d really like to see us play UNC and NC State more regularly, we play UNC every 4 years but rarely nc state.
As a Tennessee fan we have three rivalries, two of them are serious rivalries with bad blood and the other is business. Alabama and Florida are our two real rivals. We hate each other because of history and it shows in every game we play against one another. The other one is Vanderbilt. I’ve actually spent a lot of time at vandy and I can tell you first hand that there’s VERY LITTLE hatred if any at all. Vandy is all business when it comes to Tennessee and vice versa regardless of how bad the beat down gets with our current Vols roster. As long as we get our two real rivalry games against Florida and bama in we’re all fine playing Vandy at the end of the year, especially because their fans are chill about it.
Every rivalry has a game one. Arkansas and Missouri might mean nothing now, but 75 years from now it could become one of the best rivalries in football
South Carolina fan. It's baffling that we were forced to play Arkansas for 2 straight decades and never once was it treated like a rivalry on either side. For perspective, SC's schedule for years had the "Orange Crush" series, that final month of football where we played Tennessee, Florida, sometimes Auburn, and then Clemson in near back-to-back weeks to end the season. Arkansas was always lumped in as an Orange Crush game even though y'all don't wear orange. More animosity was built in the first 3-4 years of SC-Mizzou than there ever was playing the Hogs.
@SHclips1234 I know you don't have alot of subscribers right now but keep representing for the hogs brother. I really hope you're channel keeps growing. Go Hogs!!!!
Arky-lsu is one way - arky sorta kinda dislikes lsu and we lsu fans dont care about arky. Wish players would just leave the boot on the field after a win. To show the sec its worthless.
Just a note, the NCAA has very little influence over any of this. Everything is done at the conference level, and the conference's decisions are driven primarily by 1) tv revenue and 2) scheduling demands. Game *dates* tend to be set by conferences (for conf. games) and school ADs (for noncon games). Game times are then set by TV networks, or otherwise by schools if the game isn't on TV, though untelevised games are getting more rare every year. The NCAA does a lot of scheduling when it comes to postseasons for other sports, but for FBS football, it's pretty much conferences all the way down.
LSU's past rivalry games were Tulane, Rice, Ole Miss and State. Kentucky, Alabama and A&M came later on, then Florida. When the division play came along, LSU and Florida were matched up because of the amount of money the game would draw for television. And it worked. I liked the "pod" divisions idea, but the SEC didn't. It included natural rivalries, while this current system doesn't.
An Arkansas-Oklahoma rivalry would be interesting. Could call the trophy the "Territorial Cup" or something like that. Mizzou-OK + Arkansas-LSU would work too.
As a Mizzou fan, I definitely consider Arkansas a rival. Obviously the rivalry doesn’t have the history like some other Mizzou rivals (Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, etc), but it’s still a rivalry. They’ve been playing each other annually for like 10 years now, and they’re bordering states. Whenever I travel to southern Missouri, it’s not uncommon to see someone wearing Razorbacks merch. So even tho it’s not as good as Mizzou/Kansas, it’s still a rivalry. And I think it’ll only get bigger as time goes on
@@_gamepoint_ But when you’re bordering states, you’re more likely to come across fans of the opposing team, like I mentioned with Southern Missouri. I’m from Mid Missouri, but every time I travel south I come across Arkansas fans
@@LIGHTSABER-ug8sx familiarity breeds discontent yes, but there is really not a place where Arkansans and Missourians meet/mingle. Take kansas city for instance. As I'm sure you know that metro is big for both kansas and Missouri. Homemade/grown fans and alumni alike. That has led to a continued interest in the rivalry for both fan bases. Southwest Missouri and NWA don't really have that going in part due to size and having other cities/states/metros they interact in more. What you're seeing is some stragglers, but most of our out of state students come from texas and I believe Oklahoma. DFW is a common place for Arkansans who which to move. Memphis is a popular spot for central Arkansans just looking to get away for a day. Not meant as a diss or anything, but as a central Arkansan(the biggest area of the state) driving up to Missouri is down the list of places I and others would go not because it's bad. Mostly due to proximity.
@@_gamepoint_ I was referring to primarily Springfield and Branson Missouri. Since they’re in the South, and because Branson is such a big tourist attraction, there’s usually a good mix of Mizzou and Arkansas fans there. And I’ve also witnessed/been part of debates that have gone on between fans of both teams in those areas. I understand what you’re saying tho. Mizzou and Arkansas had only played each other like 3 times in history before the battle line rivalry was created. So historically it’s not a rivalry. But geographically it is, and also conference-wise it is. Being from Columbia (where Mizzou is), I can definitely say it’s considered a rivalry here. No, it’s not considered a rivalry on the same level of the other historic ones, but it’s still considered a rivalry. It’s a rivalry to us, but just not a historic one….yet. 20 years down the line there will be no debate about this being a true rivalry. A big aspect of rivalries is the amount of years and history that go with that rivalry. So the rivalry is only getting stronger with every year that passes
I believe you forgot to clarify that Minnesota-Wisconsin is the most played rivalry in the FBS, not all of Division 1. That honor would go to the Lafayette-Lehigh rivalry. Minnesota-Wisconsin is the FIFTH most played rivalry in Division 1.
As an A&M fan I can confidently say that I didn’t even know A&M and South Carolina were “rivals” before NCAA 25. I’ve literally always really liked South Carolina and their fans have been nothing but nice so I don’t think South Carolina fans really view it as one anyway.
Imo what makes the Michigan and Ohio state rivalry the best is the fact that it started before the football teams even played the first time. 1836 the rivalry between the states of Michigan and Ohio began after the conclusion of the Toledo war and carried over to the football teams. That’s almost 200 years of hate. No other rivalry can claim history like that
It's weird, because one of the most prominent ones (Michigan State), actually makes a lot of sense. They were founded less than a month apart as two of the first "land grant" universities, they were (for a while) the two last independents to join the B1G, they actually played several times before they were conference opponents, and their all-time head-to-head record is very close. But it's just never shaken that "forced" feeling.
LSU fan here Great video, you should make more similar to this. I’m shocked you didn’t mention the Southwest classic between A&M and Arkansas. Also, I learned something new. I had no clue that one time Arkansas was known as the Cardinals and then change their name after beating LSU in 1909. I’m not an Arkansas fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I am in fact a Brandon Burlsworth fan. I spent my summers in his hometown with my grandparents and I learned a lot about the guy.
Missouri and Arkansas is a more believable rivalry than the originally planned Missouri/Texas A&M rivalry that the SEC wanted. Those two schools never had any animosity towards each other. In addition, Mizzou and Arkansas had faced each other in bowl games twice in a five-year span and I'm sure the memory of Tony Temple destroying the Hogs was still fresh on some fans' minds.
Yeah. Until we got good and they stayed mediocre. Then it transitioned to Bama with Saban, but with Saban leaving and Ole Miss getting better, I see them being our biggest rivals for the recent future.
Could very well see Mizzou filling that OKST role. A heated rivalry for sure but five years from now it’s gonna be pretty one sided. Mizzou fans will talk now so keep that attitude when you’re a guaranteed win to us in the schedule.
LSU rivals are definitely Arkansas (Battle of the Boot), Ole Miss (Magnolia Bowl), Alabama (self named by me as Saban is still your daddy bowl), Tulane (Battle of the Ragged Flag), Texas A&M (due to Jimbo Fisher and honestly has become a real rivalry), and Florida.
as a LSU fan i absolutely miss the friday after thanksgiving but also get why the sec would rather us play texas a&m and oklahoma on the biggest week instead of
You could say the SEC created some due to schedule rotation balance since UGA/Aub. & Ala./Tenn. were cross division rivals. As to same-state rivalries, what fan DOESN'T enjoy them?
Im a Gator and I'm starting to hate Missouri more and more because the amount of times they've been beating us. Some years Mizzou was the better team, other years they've caught us by surprise
As an LSU fan I often forget that yall are our "rivals." It really just doesn't have as much hate between us as Ole Miss, Bama, Florida, and heck even A&M. Not to mention the SEC doing away with our oldest rivalry game, MS State, although we haven't been real rivals with them in a while, just rivals on paper (like LSU-Arkansas). But yall always play us close XD
Ou and ok state should've worked out something to play the last game of the season if not them.mizzou I like the battle for Columbia with s.carolina and mizzou But mizzou should play Arkansas and Arkansas should play lsu no excuse
This isn’t just a thing in the SEC. I just learned that my team UConn has a rivalry with UCF for some reason called the Civil ConFLict. It’s so weird and we never play them now that we left the AAC
as an LSU fan…. I WANT AUBURN ANUALLY AGAIN!!! even if Auburn’s not good they still always play up to us out of spite, and it always feels exciting, like a trap game. keeps us on our toes. i’m gonna miss auburn
Rivalry weekend will likely be Steers Arkansas Ou mizzou A&M LSU Since Arky and lsu will not play every year and A&M and Arky will stop playing every year after 25…A&M vs steers can be in sept or oct
SC/TX A&M is NOT a rivalry! It just doesn’t make sense As a SC fan I’d rather get my but kicked by GA every single year (b/c it’s a more true rivalry) than by TX A&M Its just some made up bull b/c some native South Carolinian died @ the battle of the Alamo SC rivalry in the SEC is GA not TX A&M!
@@JK-vi3jm the longest streak in the series is 7 which was owned by Clemson recently, right before that South Carolina had the longest which was 5. It’s really not that lopsided when nobody has had that significant of streaks against one another.
As an lsu fan we have a lot of games that feel like rivalries (ole miss, bama, Arkansas, Florida) and I love those games, we don’t need 1 solid rivalry -we can hate everyone equally (except Bama…all my homies hate Bama)
I agree that a 4 team pod format would work, but I also agree with the difficulty in making them. You used Arkansas as your example, but how do you split this up: Vandy/Tenn./Ala./Aub./Ga./Fl. since they have to play the team(s) beside them. As to your graphic, there's as much for Vandy/Tenn./Ala./Aub. together as Ala./Aub./Ga./Fl.. I will DISAGREE that this division-less is the better option as it will require extra tie-breakers that pods/divisions instantly prevent from being needed.
Yeah forced end of season rivalries suck, especially when they keep changing. Nebraska played Oklahoma as the last regular season game consistently from 1950 - 1995. That’s nearly half a century. The two notable exceptions to this streak being in 1959 when they played on Halloween, and the 78-79 season where after meeting on rivalry weekend in November they met again on New Year’s Day in the 1979 Orange Bowl. But as soon as they got put in different divisions of the Big 12 now we had to play Colorado at the end of each season. Not too bad we were certainly their biggest rival but they weren’t ours it still made some sense. But then we moved to the Big 10 and suddenly Iowa, a team we played 6 whole times between the end of WW2 and us joining the Big 10, is our sworn nemesis simply because we share a border and have corn I guess. By way of comparison we had played Penn State 7 times over that same period of time, and Minnesota 23 times. But nope we were apparently bitter rivals with those terrible drivers across the river that didn’t have the good sense to be Cyclone fans. With all the conference realignment maybe that weekend should be left open from conference play and reserved for historic rivalries regardless of conference. Nebraska has established rivalries with Oklahoma, Missouri, K-State, Kansas, Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Miami, and yes after over a decade of “The Heroes Game” even Iowa. It would be cool to see the conference schedule moved up a week and have rivalry weekend rotate amongst those teams. Sure we wouldn’t play them every year but it would be nice to see them on a fairly regular basis. Sure we get Iowa and Wisconsin fairly regularly because they’re in the same conference but short of meeting in a Bowl game I doubt you’ll ever see Kansas or Missouri on our schedule again.
An rivalry should be either with Main college and its Tech or state college to make then make an rivalry between Another College main school and it’s rival state and do the same with its State and Tech schools Like Michigan State should have a rivalry with Ohio U since Michigan gets their claws on Ohio State
The SEC should’ve added either Duke and North Carolina or NC State and Wake Forest, not Texas or Oklahoma. It does not make any sense to me that SouthCarolina has an SEC school yet North Carolina does not. I absolutely hate this new landscape in college football and college sports in general. The straw that broke the camel’s back for me was when UCLA and USC both decided to join the Big Ten. When it was announced they would join the Big Ten, I decided that I was done with college sports. I’ve been done with college sports for a couple years now. UCLA and USC playing in the Big Ten is gonna be a disaster. The biggest motivator behind this is money. These money hungry universities don’t care the fans who want to watch the games, they don’t care about the rivalries, traditions, or history, and they certainly do not care about the geography. Football is the only sport that will benefit from any of this for two reasons. They only play once a week and they’re also the biggest revenue maker in college. All the Olympic sports such as basketball, baseball, swimming, and tennis are gonna suffer from this due to them playing more often as well as not making as much revenue as football. Also, did any of the student athletes get a say in this or was everything decided for them? They weren’t put into consideration either especially concerning mental health. I won’t be surprised if a bunch of them quit the team because of all of this
The only rival SC has is Clemson. It's one of the oldest and there's lots of history. Both in the same state. The only other mini rival SC has is GA and that's mostly just because it's a border rivalry.
If they let Clemson and FSU into the SEC, any sort of rivalry system would need to be completely reset anyway. Also, Florida/LSU was another forced rivalry (because of Arkansas & South Carolina joining the conference) that just became a real one over the years. The real rivalry Florida had with what would become the SEC west was Auburn. But, Georgia had a stronger claim for them. So, expansion doesn't just create fake rivalries, it kills real ones. Other than to give Florida schedules from hell, I'm not sure how the SEC scheduling will function going forward. But, I have a feeling LSU and Tennessee games aren't going to be protected, so thats two more dead rivalries.
Every rivalry that has been forced on to Lsu has turned into genuinely hate, Florida, Arkansas , Tamu , all got "forced" but as a Lsu fan , i genuinely do not like those teams
How can you not mention the biggest rivalries in the SEC such as Alabama vs Mercer or Tennessee vs Fordham? all those great cupcake games. It just means more
LSU fan here. I feel that LSU-Arkansas was an ok rivalry week game. LSU-Texas A&M is in my opinion my favorite rivalry week matchup for LSU. But OKLAHOMA???? We have basically NO history with them. I'd rather play Arkansas than Oklahoma for rivalry week.
Is this the same daddy that got beaten by Iowa state, KU, osu and ksu pretty regularly between 2012-2022? That same daddy!? Your misplaced arrogance knows no bounds…😂
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I’m not an Arkansas or LSU fan, but the Golden Boot might be one of the coolest rivalry trophies.
Also LSU and Arkansas has been facing each other for over 100 years
neither school really wants it tbh
I’m a South Carolina fan and I’ve never considered Texas A&M as a rival. However, our rivalry with Clemson has to be one of the fiercest.
For real I’m a Clemson fan we had many fights and bottles thrown at sidelines it’s intense
Us and TAMU was by far the dumbest “rivalry” we have in this conference. Why did the SEC have to make things harder than it has to be?
I’m a SC and Michigan fan so I might be biased but the SC vs Clemson rivalry feels like one of the most hateful to me behind obviously Michigan and OSU, maybe the Iron bowl and Red River.
Missouri and Oklahoma should be matched up while LSU vs Arkansas be reignited
I think the LSU and Arkansas rivalry mainly fell apart because Arkansas just isn’t good anymore. It’s more of a beat down than a rivalry at this point.
Oklahoma and Missouri aren’t even close in relevance. It’s like Alabama having a rivalry with Georgia Southern
@@squidwater6700 do 100 years in the same confrence mean nothing?
@@Homedepotorangeanother thing is why is Georgia southern Alabama a bad rivalry if there was beef navy vs notre dame is a rivalry game and navy is way worse then dame but it is still one
@@ASporz Oklahomas not that bad
As an FSU fan I think it's weird and kind of sad for a team to not have a real rival. We've got two! Half of our fans say Miami is our biggest rival and half say UF. And speaking of the Gators, they've got two big time rivals as well--FSU, who they play on rivalry weekend, and Georgia, who is such a big rival that the game is played in a neutral site (Jacksonville). How has a program like LSU existed for so long and never developed a true rivalry?
Also, I know a lot of these really old rivalries have a trophy that the winner gets to take home. These old traditions are one of things that make college football so awesome. But you don't need a trophy for a rivalry and when they try to force a trophy on two teams it just seems silly. FSU will get out the old gator head when we beat Florida, but there is no trophy for that or the Miami game. Nor is there a special name for either matchup (and no, no one really calls it the "Sunshine State Showdown" so just stop with that, broadcasters). It's the Gator game and the Miami game, and whatever the call it in Gainesville and wherever it is that Miami fans live.
They had/have rivals. Tulane and Mississippi. We will see how the bama thing holds up now that saban is gone.
I think you're mislead about LSU, they have plenty of true rivals. Ole Miss, Miss St, and Tulane are their true rivals. All three of those schools have matches with the Tigers going back as far as the the 1800s, with plenty of legendary matches filling the lore since then.
However, in recent decades, LSU began to eclipse their former rivals in terms of talent, leading to schools like Florida, Auburn, and Bama replacing them.
I do feel like since Ole miss has improved in the past few years that they feel more like a true rival now, but for awhile that rivalry felt dead atleast to Tiger fans. Hope this helps clear up any confusion.
They should have kept the bedlam series
What's funny is the "Golden Boot" trophy was the first rivalry trophy I ever remember seeing as a kid. I'm smack in the middle of the traditional B1G territory so I may not be as well versed of the SEC as others but I distinctly remember seeing LSU-Akransas play for the boot in the late 90s.
One thing I didn't realize until recently is that the change to the cross-division matchups in the SEC didn't happen at the same time as the 2012 expansion. Mizzou and A&M **WERE** initially matched up together as cross-division rivals just like they did with the previous wave of expansion teams (ARK and SCAR), but then in 2014 they randomly decided to reshuffle the scheduling for the four expansion teams so that we'd get Arkansas-Missouri and Texas A&M-South Carolina every year.
Another weird example of a forced rivalry is Louisville-Virginia. It only existed because Louisville took the place of Virginia's old rival, Maryland, in the ACC.
Ahould of crossed em up the other way. Mizzu/South Carolina, and A&M/Arkansas for a old SWC rivalry.
@@georgerogers1166a&m plays arkansas every year cause they’re in the same division. we’re talking about cross division rivals
Dude I’m a South Carolina fan and none of consider Texas A&M a rival and Texas A&M feels the same way. They did the same thing with us and Missouri making it a trophy game.
Ya'll should be rivals with a team like NC State in my opinion😂
@@SportsFan838 we used to be
@@batmangummies5393 What happened!? I mean North Carolina still holds their rivalry with the Gamecocks why not the Wolfpack? But like I always tell others NC State is 100% a SEC School
Only works kind of because our schools share the same towns name
@@SportsFan838 we just only schedule each other like once a decade now, it was pretty big back in the 80’s from my understanding, personally I’d really like to see us play UNC and NC State more regularly, we play UNC every 4 years but rarely nc state.
the 74-72 game was absolutely ridiculous i won’t ever get over that
As a Texas A&M fan, i never hated South Carolina until this years loss against them last week 😂😂
As a Tennessee fan we have three rivalries, two of them are serious rivalries with bad blood and the other is business. Alabama and Florida are our two real rivals. We hate each other because of history and it shows in every game we play against one another. The other one is Vanderbilt. I’ve actually spent a lot of time at vandy and I can tell you first hand that there’s VERY LITTLE hatred if any at all. Vandy is all business when it comes to Tennessee and vice versa regardless of how bad the beat down gets with our current Vols roster. As long as we get our two real rivalry games against Florida and bama in we’re all fine playing Vandy at the end of the year, especially because their fans are chill about it.
Every rivalry has a game one. Arkansas and Missouri might mean nothing now, but 75 years from now it could become one of the best rivalries in football
South Carolina fan. It's baffling that we were forced to play Arkansas for 2 straight decades and never once was it treated like a rivalry on either side. For perspective, SC's schedule for years had the "Orange Crush" series, that final month of football where we played Tennessee, Florida, sometimes Auburn, and then Clemson in near back-to-back weeks to end the season. Arkansas was always lumped in as an Orange Crush game even though y'all don't wear orange. More animosity was built in the first 3-4 years of SC-Mizzou than there ever was playing the Hogs.
same here I actually like South Carolina quite a bit yall are cool
Now that's Texas plays Texas a&m the last game of the year. Arkansas should go back to playing LSU
@@lanceweaver4830 I agree, but it seems they are really pushing the Missouri game for some reason
@SHclips1234 I know you don't have alot of subscribers right now but keep representing for the hogs brother. I really hope you're channel keeps growing. Go Hogs!!!!
@@lanceweaver4830thank you man 🙏🏻 comments like these keep me motivated
@@SHclips1234 As a Mizzou fan I can assure you I hate Oklahoma far more then I hate anyone else in the SEC. That should be Mizzous rival
Arky-lsu is one way - arky sorta kinda dislikes lsu and we lsu fans dont care about arky. Wish players would just leave the boot on the field after a win. To show the sec its worthless.
Just a note, the NCAA has very little influence over any of this. Everything is done at the conference level, and the conference's decisions are driven primarily by 1) tv revenue and 2) scheduling demands. Game *dates* tend to be set by conferences (for conf. games) and school ADs (for noncon games). Game times are then set by TV networks, or otherwise by schools if the game isn't on TV, though untelevised games are getting more rare every year.
The NCAA does a lot of scheduling when it comes to postseasons for other sports, but for FBS football, it's pretty much conferences all the way down.
Which makes it hilarious that all the lower college levels actually have better and more organized postseasons than FBS.
LSU's past rivalry games were Tulane, Rice, Ole Miss and State. Kentucky, Alabama and A&M came later on, then Florida. When the division play came along, LSU and Florida were matched up because of the amount of money the game would draw for television. And it worked. I liked the "pod" divisions idea, but the SEC didn't. It included natural rivalries, while this current system doesn't.
An Arkansas-Oklahoma rivalry would be interesting. Could call the trophy the "Territorial Cup" or something like that.
Mizzou-OK + Arkansas-LSU would work too.
As a Mizzou fan, I definitely consider Arkansas a rival. Obviously the rivalry doesn’t have the history like some other Mizzou rivals (Kansas, Nebraska, Oklahoma, etc), but it’s still a rivalry. They’ve been playing each other annually for like 10 years now, and they’re bordering states. Whenever I travel to southern Missouri, it’s not uncommon to see someone wearing Razorbacks merch. So even tho it’s not as good as Mizzou/Kansas, it’s still a rivalry. And I think it’ll only get bigger as time goes on
@@LIGHTSABER-ug8sx your definitely right, I could very easily see this rivalry being great in the years to come
It's not one. Just because our states touch doesn't make it one. Otherwise we would rivals with several others as well.
@@_gamepoint_ But when you’re bordering states, you’re more likely to come across fans of the opposing team, like I mentioned with Southern Missouri. I’m from Mid Missouri, but every time I travel south I come across Arkansas fans
@@LIGHTSABER-ug8sx familiarity breeds discontent yes, but there is really not a place where Arkansans and Missourians meet/mingle. Take kansas city for instance. As I'm sure you know that metro is big for both kansas and Missouri. Homemade/grown fans and alumni alike. That has led to a continued interest in the rivalry for both fan bases.
Southwest Missouri and NWA don't really have that going in part due to size and having other cities/states/metros they interact in more. What you're seeing is some stragglers, but most of our out of state students come from texas and I believe Oklahoma. DFW is a common place for Arkansans who which to move. Memphis is a popular spot for central Arkansans just looking to get away for a day.
Not meant as a diss or anything, but as a central Arkansan(the biggest area of the state) driving up to Missouri is down the list of places I and others would go not because it's bad. Mostly due to proximity.
@@_gamepoint_ I was referring to primarily Springfield and Branson Missouri. Since they’re in the South, and because Branson is such a big tourist attraction, there’s usually a good mix of Mizzou and Arkansas fans there. And I’ve also witnessed/been part of debates that have gone on between fans of both teams in those areas.
I understand what you’re saying tho. Mizzou and Arkansas had only played each other like 3 times in history before the battle line rivalry was created. So historically it’s not a rivalry. But geographically it is, and also conference-wise it is. Being from Columbia (where Mizzou is), I can definitely say it’s considered a rivalry here. No, it’s not considered a rivalry on the same level of the other historic ones, but it’s still considered a rivalry. It’s a rivalry to us, but just not a historic one….yet. 20 years down the line there will be no debate about this being a true rivalry. A big aspect of rivalries is the amount of years and history that go with that rivalry. So the rivalry is only getting stronger with every year that passes
I believe you forgot to clarify that Minnesota-Wisconsin is the most played rivalry in the FBS, not all of Division 1. That honor would go to the Lafayette-Lehigh rivalry. Minnesota-Wisconsin is the FIFTH most played rivalry in Division 1.
Yes you are correct, I definitely misspoke
0:42 Wtf was that?😂
Ole Miss decided to “celebrate” and it cost them the egg bowl lol
As an A&M fan I can confidently say that I didn’t even know A&M and South Carolina were “rivals” before NCAA 25. I’ve literally always really liked South Carolina and their fans have been nothing but nice so I don’t think South Carolina fans really view it as one anyway.
I want Texas, A&M, LSU, and Oklahoma to be in one pod.
As an LSU fan, just no. No.
I used to be weird about the A&M and LSU rivalry but now I think its actually a pretty good one.
Imo what makes the Michigan and Ohio state rivalry the best is the fact that it started before the football teams even played the first time. 1836 the rivalry between the states of Michigan and Ohio began after the conclusion of the Toledo war and carried over to the football teams. That’s almost 200 years of hate. No other rivalry can claim history like that
4:22 as a razorbacks fan same
Anyone notice how in the SEC from 2012-23, the ages never played Kentucky on the road or Georgia at home?
Yup, most of Penn State’s “rivalries” in the big 10 are manufactured as well
They should have been ACC
It's weird, because one of the most prominent ones (Michigan State), actually makes a lot of sense. They were founded less than a month apart as two of the first "land grant" universities, they were (for a while) the two last independents to join the B1G, they actually played several times before they were conference opponents, and their all-time head-to-head record is very close. But it's just never shaken that "forced" feeling.
@@Rodanguirus yeah, agreed. Maybe it’s because Michigan State has a much bigger rival in Michigan? I’m only speculating
LSU fan here
Great video, you should make more similar to this. I’m shocked you didn’t mention the Southwest classic between A&M and Arkansas.
Also, I learned something new. I had no clue that one time Arkansas was known as the Cardinals and then change their name after beating LSU in 1909.
I’m not an Arkansas fan by any stretch of the imagination, but I am in fact a Brandon Burlsworth fan. I spent my summers in his hometown with my grandparents and I learned a lot about the guy.
@@BryceBoudreauxMMA_Announcer thank you 🙏🏻 much respect
A&m Arkansas isn't manufactured. Arkansas always has a thing with Texas schools.
4:13 to 4:20 as a razorbacks fan same
Rivalries dont happen overnight. In 20 years people will consider them rivalries because there is history and big games and big moments
Ah yes, can’t wait for when the ACC rivalry of Cal Berkeley vs Virginia becomes an all time rivalry in 20 years
That aint true. USCs rivalry with Norte Dame and UCLA were started overnight.
Missouri and Arkansas is a more believable rivalry than the originally planned Missouri/Texas A&M rivalry that the SEC wanted. Those two schools never had any animosity towards each other. In addition, Mizzou and Arkansas had faced each other in bowl games twice in a five-year span and I'm sure the memory of Tony Temple destroying the Hogs was still fresh on some fans' minds.
Ole miss was pretty much considered lsus rival after Tulane. Still is for a lot of older LSU fans
Yeah. Until we got good and they stayed mediocre. Then it transitioned to Bama with Saban, but with Saban leaving and Ole Miss getting better, I see them being our biggest rivals for the recent future.
Could very well see Mizzou filling that OKST role. A heated rivalry for sure but five years from now it’s gonna be pretty one sided. Mizzou fans will talk now so keep that attitude when you’re a guaranteed win to us in the schedule.
Thought Nebraska vs Iowa would be mentioned
Clearly SEC bias by the mainstream sports media.
no because they actually do hate each other
That image of a proposed 4 team pod would never happen, Auburn and Georgia would never agree to give up their yearly game
i forgot Oklahoma was in the sec that's some nasty work right there
LSU rivals are definitely Arkansas (Battle of the Boot), Ole Miss (Magnolia Bowl), Alabama (self named by me as Saban is still your daddy bowl), Tulane (Battle of the Ragged Flag), Texas A&M (due to Jimbo Fisher and honestly has become a real rivalry), and Florida.
as a LSU fan i absolutely miss the friday after thanksgiving but also get why the sec would rather us play texas a&m and oklahoma on the biggest week instead of
You could say the SEC created some due to schedule rotation balance since UGA/Aub. & Ala./Tenn. were cross division rivals.
As to same-state rivalries, what fan DOESN'T enjoy them?
Im a Gator and I'm starting to hate Missouri more and more because the amount of times they've been beating us. Some years Mizzou was the better team, other years they've caught us by surprise
us and LSU is a great rivalry, it’s just a shame we’ve been ass for a damn near decade, not even being a challenge to the tigers
As an LSU fan I often forget that yall are our "rivals." It really just doesn't have as much hate between us as Ole Miss, Bama, Florida, and heck even A&M. Not to mention the SEC doing away with our oldest rivalry game, MS State, although we haven't been real rivals with them in a while, just rivals on paper (like LSU-Arkansas). But yall always play us close XD
Ou and ok state should've worked out something to play the last game of the season if not them.mizzou
I like the battle for Columbia with s.carolina and mizzou
But mizzou should play Arkansas and Arkansas should play lsu no excuse
This isn’t just a thing in the SEC. I just learned that my team UConn has a rivalry with UCF for some reason called the Civil ConFLict. It’s so weird and we never play them now that we left the AAC
That was the dumbest unusual rivalry ever ucf only rival is usf
@@lagsworld8331 lmao. Yeah UConn’s only real rials are UMass and our own o-line
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as an LSU fan…. I WANT AUBURN ANUALLY AGAIN!!! even if Auburn’s not good they still always play up to us out of spite, and it always feels exciting, like a trap game. keeps us on our toes. i’m gonna miss auburn
SEC Rivalries are so fun.
Bobby for president
Rivalry weekend will likely be
Steers Arkansas
Ou mizzou
A&M LSU
Since Arky and lsu will not play every year and A&M and Arky will stop playing every year after 25…A&M vs steers can be in sept or oct
Nobody:….
This guy: rivalry 👁️👄👁️
SC/TX A&M is NOT a rivalry!
It just doesn’t make sense
As a SC fan I’d rather get my but kicked by GA every single year (b/c it’s a more true rivalry) than by TX A&M
Its just some made up bull b/c some native South Carolinian died @ the battle of the Alamo
SC rivalry in the SEC is GA not TX A&M!
@@Grant-kd8cz they really screwed us over with the scheduling, we won’t play any schools near us in the sec consistently anymore
@@batmangummies5393 Facts
No it's a domination lol, same as your "rivalry" with Clemson
@@JK-vi3jm the longest streak in the series is 7 which was owned by Clemson recently, right before that South Carolina had the longest which was 5. It’s really not that lopsided when nobody has had that significant of streaks against one another.
I agree that putting Mizz. in the East was bizarre...but putting them in the West would create a host of other problems!
Dude said it makes no sense having tamu in the west and Mizzou on the east. But tamu is further west than Mizzou lol
As an lsu fan we have a lot of games that feel like rivalries (ole miss, bama, Arkansas, Florida) and I love those games, we don’t need 1 solid rivalry -we can hate everyone equally (except Bama…all my homies hate Bama)
good video dude
@@McSteak thank you 🙏🏻
Do you think they'll force a rivalry between michigan state and USC? Since its like spartans vs Trojans
@@LuigiWithGun it’s possible, definitely could see it happen
@SHclips1234 i see it happening to
Great Video
@@jaylenbarnes2.079 thank you 🙏🏻
I agree that a 4 team pod format would work, but I also agree with the difficulty in making them. You used Arkansas as your example, but how do you split this up: Vandy/Tenn./Ala./Aub./Ga./Fl. since they have to play the team(s) beside them. As to your graphic, there's as much for Vandy/Tenn./Ala./Aub. together as Ala./Aub./Ga./Fl..
I will DISAGREE that this division-less is the better option as it will require extra tie-breakers that pods/divisions instantly prevent from being needed.
Yeah forced end of season rivalries suck, especially when they keep changing. Nebraska played Oklahoma as the last regular season game consistently from 1950 - 1995. That’s nearly half a century. The two notable exceptions to this streak being in 1959 when they played on Halloween, and the 78-79 season where after meeting on rivalry weekend in November they met again on New Year’s Day in the 1979 Orange Bowl. But as soon as they got put in different divisions of the Big 12 now we had to play Colorado at the end of each season. Not too bad we were certainly their biggest rival but they weren’t ours it still made some sense. But then we moved to the Big 10 and suddenly Iowa, a team we played 6 whole times between the end of WW2 and us joining the Big 10, is our sworn nemesis simply because we share a border and have corn I guess. By way of comparison we had played Penn State 7 times over that same period of time, and Minnesota 23 times. But nope we were apparently bitter rivals with those terrible drivers across the river that didn’t have the good sense to be Cyclone fans. With all the conference realignment maybe that weekend should be left open from conference play and reserved for historic rivalries regardless of conference. Nebraska has established rivalries with Oklahoma, Missouri, K-State, Kansas, Colorado, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Miami, and yes after over a decade of “The Heroes Game” even Iowa. It would be cool to see the conference schedule moved up a week and have rivalry weekend rotate amongst those teams. Sure we wouldn’t play them every year but it would be nice to see them on a fairly regular basis. Sure we get Iowa and Wisconsin fairly regularly because they’re in the same conference but short of meeting in a Bowl game I doubt you’ll ever see Kansas or Missouri on our schedule again.
It’s not the “NCAA” doing this. It’s TV networks and conferences.
When the hype video coming out?
Texas and Texas A&M will be in same pod Texas will play OU and A&M every year
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An rivalry should be either with Main college and its Tech or state college to make then make an rivalry between Another College main school and it’s rival state and do the same with its State and Tech schools
Like Michigan State should have a rivalry with Ohio U since Michigan gets their claws on Ohio State
The SEC should’ve added either Duke and North Carolina or NC State and Wake Forest, not Texas or Oklahoma. It does not make any sense to me that SouthCarolina has an SEC school yet North Carolina does not. I absolutely hate this new landscape in college football and college sports in general. The straw that broke the camel’s back for me was when UCLA and USC both decided to join the Big Ten. When it was announced they would join the Big Ten, I decided that I was done with college sports. I’ve been done with college sports for a couple years now. UCLA and USC playing in the Big Ten is gonna be a disaster. The biggest motivator behind this is money. These money hungry universities don’t care the fans who want to watch the games, they don’t care about the rivalries, traditions, or history, and they certainly do not care about the geography. Football is the only sport that will benefit from any of this for two reasons. They only play once a week and they’re also the biggest revenue maker in college. All the Olympic sports such as basketball, baseball, swimming, and tennis are gonna suffer from this due to them playing more often as well as not making as much revenue as football. Also, did any of the student athletes get a say in this or was everything decided for them? They weren’t put into consideration either especially concerning mental health. I won’t be surprised if a bunch of them quit the team because of all of this
With 14 teams everyone had to have a permanent cross div game. No one thinks it’s an actual rivalry
The only rival SC has is Clemson. It's one of the oldest and there's lots of history. Both in the same state. The only other mini rival SC has is GA and that's mostly just because it's a border rivalry.
If they let Clemson and FSU into the SEC, any sort of rivalry system would need to be completely reset anyway. Also, Florida/LSU was another forced rivalry (because of Arkansas & South Carolina joining the conference) that just became a real one over the years. The real rivalry Florida had with what would become the SEC west was Auburn. But, Georgia had a stronger claim for them. So, expansion doesn't just create fake rivalries, it kills real ones. Other than to give Florida schedules from hell, I'm not sure how the SEC scheduling will function going forward. But, I have a feeling LSU and Tennessee games aren't going to be protected, so thats two more dead rivalries.
Every rivalry that has been forced on to Lsu has turned into genuinely hate, Florida, Arkansas , Tamu , all got "forced" but as a Lsu fan , i genuinely do not like those teams
Missouri and Arkansas as states has actual beef but as universities not so much. It doesn’t help Missouri university is a few hours from the border
What beef is there? NWA mingles more with the tulsa metro in Oklahoma than they do in/with Missouri.
LSU vs Arkansas, UT vs Arkansas, and Tennessee bs Arkansas are the only rivalries I care about as a Hig fan. Missouri can kick rocks.
Dude, screw this. The Battleline Rivalry actually has a lot of hatred in it
It’s always about the money.
How can you not mention the biggest rivalries in the SEC such as Alabama vs Mercer or Tennessee vs Fordham? all those great cupcake games. It just means more
LSU fan here. I feel that LSU-Arkansas was an ok rivalry week game. LSU-Texas A&M is in my opinion my favorite rivalry week matchup for LSU. But OKLAHOMA???? We have basically NO history with them. I'd rather play Arkansas than Oklahoma for rivalry week.
I can actually see Oklahoma vs lsu becoming a good rivalry given some time .
LSU and A&M rivalry week is always competitive and pretty fun I enjoy it a lot
Sorry tamu. Daddy's coming
As an lsu fan we dont need no rival. We can hate everyone equally. That said if we had to pick one, let it be ole miss. Actual have history.
Fr. They expect us to just hate Oklahoma out of nowhere
Why pretend this video is about college football when it’s just about the SEC?
Intrastate rivalries > interstate rivalries
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Appreciate it 🤝
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it aint that deep bro makes the sport cooler quit yapping
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Sorry tamu. Daddy's coming
Sorry tamu. Daddy's coming
Is this the same daddy that got beaten by Iowa state, KU, osu and ksu pretty regularly between 2012-2022? That same daddy!? Your misplaced arrogance knows no bounds…😂
@@weatherlou how about Appalachian State at home? Texas owns TAMU and that will forever be the case.