Does anyone else think Pierce is underappreciated? He's in the HOF, which he deserves, but it feels like he doesn't get enough respect when the best SG/SF are discussed. I grew up watching him at Kansas and very quickly realized he's the real deal. I knew his talents would easily transition into the NBA. The battles between him and Lebron in the 08 playoffs won't ever be forgotten. They went back and forth, landing haymakers. His nickname fits him perfectly because nobody could handle the Truth.
He was, because back then all espn will show you are dunks and crossovers, now side steps, step backs, hesi are as popular as dunks. No one really outside of the celtics fanbase understood Paul Pierce game back then. Even to this day kids only knew Pierce from the big 3 era or re-runs from 2008, but Early 2000s Pierce had everyhing expect for the 360 dunks.
@@t-god2439 Man what is your problem about Antoine Walker? If he shoots many 3s thats not my problem because there is no FOUR! Remember what Antoine said THERE IS NO FOUR!
I remember that comeback against NJ. I was watching it with my dad and buddy. we were all jumping up and down on the couch yelling. One of the best moments in sports ive ever seen
This duo made me a celtics fan. When ppl ask my favorite NBA team, I scream CELTICS! They look at me like im crazy. I tell them I've been a fan since the struggle was real, PP and AW days. Then they understand. Thank you for this, flashbackcl to my childhood❤
The Celtics had rookie Joe Johnson along with Pierce and Walker in 2002 and they traded him away in midseason trade! Sadly, there was a lot of mismanagement in the leadup to the Pierce and Walker Era that continued through their tenure.
I’ve been following your channel for awhile. And what your channel makes clear is how important college is for a players development. The nba now has so many one and done players that a lot of them don’t know how to play basketball in a system. Let alone at the professional level and it hurts the product of the league
Rick Pitino RUINED the franchise with a ripple effect that lasted almost a decade. I remember so vividly as a young teenager being stoked about him coaching in Boston. We also had the best chance in the lottery at drafting #1 overall in 97, Tim Duncan, and we also had the Mavs FRP which was the odds on favorite for the 3rd pick. The ping pong balls landed almost in the worst possible spots. We got 3 and 6 overall. Chauncey Billups n Ron Mercer. After not landing Duncan, Pitino just went nuts trading player after player. Still cant believe he didnt draft TMac at 6 but it wouldnt of mattered as he likely wouldve traded him aswell. He shipped Chauncey out his rookie season even though he showed promise for kenny anderson, who was undersized n bad defensively. I remember he gave Travis Knight a huge contract for a backup big lol. At least Pitino drafted Paul Pierce though 😂😂😂 even he couldnt mess that pick up. Dude literally fell in our lap at ten
Pierce was one of the most skilled player from that era, while kobe, tmac, VC exploded into the mainstream, Pierce silently put up big numbers, wasnt as explosive but he had the footwork, bb iq, variety of moves. Antoine in my opinion is the 1st big man with legit guard like handles, he had court vision, he had inside outside game similar to Pierce. Ainge wasnt a fan of Walker's game, traded the entire team when he became the GM, but prior to Ainge I wish they kept Joe Johnson and Chauncey billups.
@@dsg3053 😂 here comes the "i know basketball better " dude. Magic is pg, obvioulsy more effective handles , but antoine handles closely resembles the modern nba offense, you never saw Magic do the hesi - cross for a pull 3. Bird another big with handles, again more effective but isnt as flashy as Walker. Hakeem, KG, CWEBB, Ralph Samson, can navigate the court with decent handles but most operates their offense from 20 feet to inside the paint, Walker operates from beyond the 3 point line. Watch some Antoine Walker not the most efficient and effective but showed flashes of what the nba would become. His game resembles Carmelo anthony before melo was even drafted.
Thanks for posting this duo!!!🍀🍀🍀 Uggggghh Toine will always be a "what if" player to me. Walker was really a bit ahead of his time. His handles were really good for a PF, he was an excellent passer, and a good 3pt shooter. He was at his best attacking the hoop and playing with pace. Unfortunately he fell in love with the 3pt shot, and he became lazy n undisciplined on and off the court. He had the potential to be a hall of fame player, his first 3/4 seasons in the league gave every indication of this. Sadly he basically peaked as a player at around 25 yrs old. He gained weight and was never the same losing speed, athleticism and quickness. He became a role player basically for the rest of his career after his stint(s) in Boston. Wouldve loved to see him reach his potential, which we all know Pierce seemed to do. They were alot of fun to watch, and played well off each other. That Pacers series in the playoffs brings back some fond memories. Thanks for the content ✌🏻🤙🏻
Forgotten trio in Seattle Dale Ellis, Tom Chambers and Xavier McDaniel. Would be a great video all had good careers and chambers for some reason isn't in the Hall of Fame
Im 32. AI was my GOAT before LeBron for some context. This duo i remember like yesterday lol. I always wish ppl remembered walkers game more than the money problems.
Pierce and Walker was something serious I wish they would've stayed together I remember one would have 25 pts/game and the other would have 35 pts/game alternating 🔥🔥🏀🏀
I thought Mercer would be an absolute beast in the league... Walker and Pierce seemed like a forgone conclusion they'd be in the HOF. Too bad Walker couldn't stay motivated... he was scary good
Look at any of these guys who end up with their college coach in the NBA. Recent one being Hayward. I don't want to say one way or the other. But maybe this kind of thing can easily go south and stunt someones career like Mercer. Then he moves on (or the Celtics change regimes) and he only knows how to play for Pitino. Just my two cents as I had thought the same thing.
I agree, Walker was my favorite then, but although he was Idol it is still frustrating watching him jack those 3s randomly 😂 tatum shot selection reminds me of Walker, both have size, handles, but settles for outside shots too much. Tatum is more focused and talented but he takes the most random 3s out there like Walker.
@@goriotv2023 its crazy but tatum and walker had the same tendencies, they shoot jumpers when they could have used their size and height advantage over smaller defenders. Antoine had nice post moves and floaters before he fell inlove with the 3, I hope JT adds post moves and operates more in the post next yr.
They ran that give and go play to a science. Maybe I am mis-naming the play. Its the one where Walker looks like he's gonna shoot and then he throws a lob pass to the block.
When the Celtics roster was entirely 1996-1998 KY Wildcats and Paul. Those years were an awesome time to be a KY and Celtics fan despite the losing records. No NBA team so I route for Boston and the Pacers and Im still mad that OKC has an NBA team but Louisville doesnt. Its the biggest college basketball market in the nation.
They were only behind Kobe and Shaq as second highest scoring duo at the time. Walker could have been a hall of famer if he kept himself in better shape and was more coachable. He took way too many 3s.
It's crazy that PP fell to ten in the draft. Back then you were penalized if you stayed in college more than two years. They would over analyze and pick your game apart. You were actually better off leaving after a year if you could.
They were a decent duo and fun to watch but I didn’t particularly like them. They wasn’t going anywhere as a ball club but let’s address the elephant in the room: *Pierce and Walker were not great defenders *Pierce and Walker at times took bad shots *They would settle for jump shots to bail out defenders *and often times would be inconsistent Let’s also remember the rosters wasn’t that well rounded either
I'm not trying to be mean. But it seems that it's always the guys that don't actually PLAY basketball that does the best job when it comes to discussing basketball history, analytics, and such... Good video.
Pierce was THE TRUTH, but Toine was a big man who inexplicably developed into a volume 3pt shooter with questionable defensive, well everything🤔(he was how James Harden played in Houston)👍👎
Boy this is a really terrible video it's nothing but stats and this does not tell the story of Walker and Pierce and the fans and how they kept us coming until Danny age traded Walker and then it dropped off for a while. But you didn't talk about that
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 Hmmm...I can't agree with that. Luka is 1000x a better a player and athlete. He has quite a bit of hidden athleticism, though. Unlike Paul, which always looked out of his depth athletically, like he was getting away with something.
@miguelalegria3614 are you serious right now? You must have never seen how athletic Paul Pierce was in the early 2000s, a substantially better athlete than Luka by far. There are tons of posters Paul Pierce put people on. And to say Luka is 1000x better. Just say you don't like Paul Pierce
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 I saw it and yep, I'm absolutely serious. The basketball of both these people is simply not comparable. And I don't particularly like Luka either.
Larry's team forever,,,Lakers magic team forever, bulls Michael's team forever,,rockets Hakeems team forever, blazers team Clyde's team forever,,spurs team Duncan's team 4ever,,nothing much else to say
This Celtics duo was fun to play with on the NBA video games
Does anyone else think Pierce is underappreciated? He's in the HOF, which he deserves, but it feels like he doesn't get enough respect when the best SG/SF are discussed. I grew up watching him at Kansas and very quickly realized he's the real deal. I knew his talents would easily transition into the NBA. The battles between him and Lebron in the 08 playoffs won't ever be forgotten. They went back and forth, landing haymakers. His nickname fits him perfectly because nobody could handle the Truth.
I always thought of him of a fatter slower Kobe. He could do just about everything Kobe did but looked kinda sloppy doing it. Respect
@Manuel Anthony never looked at it that way, but you're right.
He was, because back then all espn will show you are dunks and crossovers, now side steps, step backs, hesi are as popular as dunks. No one really outside of the celtics fanbase understood Paul Pierce game back then. Even to this day kids only knew Pierce from the big 3 era or re-runs from 2008, but Early 2000s Pierce had everyhing expect for the 360 dunks.
@@manuelanthony2205 hell no no where near as athletic as kobe you sleep
Pierce was better than Kobe. And he was way better than Wade. Don't buy the media hype.
One of my favorite duo. If only have deep bench in 2002 they will make it to the NBA Finals vs Lakers.
One of your favourite duos?!?!?!?! Walker big ass should of not not shot so many 3s that was his main weakness
@@t-god2439 what does Walker not being a good 3pt shooter have to do with how much he likes him as a player?
@@t-god2439 Man what is your problem about Antoine Walker? If he shoots many 3s thats not my problem because there is no FOUR! Remember what Antoine said THERE IS NO FOUR!
@@t-god2439 Pierce and Walker tandem had a special place in my heart after Bird-McHale-Parish left the Cs. They became a part of my early 2000.
@@t-god2439 so because he put up so many 3s makes him his not fav duo u a special kind of ignorant put down the crack pipe
I remember that comeback against NJ. I was watching it with my dad and buddy. we were all jumping up and down on the couch yelling. One of the best moments in sports ive ever seen
Best Moment in Celtics History
This duo made me a celtics fan. When ppl ask my favorite NBA team, I scream CELTICS! They look at me like im crazy. I tell them I've been a fan since the struggle was real, PP and AW days. Then they understand. Thank you for this, flashbackcl to my childhood❤
I LOVED this duo and wouldn't ever miss a game. LOL.Such fun watching them play,the nba was so much different back then.
The Celtics had rookie Joe Johnson along with Pierce and Walker in 2002 and they traded him away in midseason trade! Sadly, there was a lot of mismanagement in the leadup to the Pierce and Walker Era that continued through their tenure.
I enjoyed playing with these Celtics in games. My OG 3 point duo.
One Of The Most Underrated Duos Ever
overrated tbh. Walker especially. Pierce a great player
@@lilpenny1982 how is he overated? Hardly anyone talks about him, and he was a key part of the 06 heat championship
@@Supersonicspyro Celtics
@@lilpenny1982 ?
I’ve been following your channel for awhile. And what your channel makes clear is how important college is for a players development. The nba now has so many one and done players that a lot of them don’t know how to play basketball in a system. Let alone at the professional level and it hurts the product of the league
When they both came along it was a good team walker and pierce
very underrated...
Rick Pitino RUINED the franchise with a ripple effect that lasted almost a decade. I remember so vividly as a young teenager being stoked about him coaching in Boston. We also had the best chance in the lottery at drafting #1 overall in 97, Tim Duncan, and we also had the Mavs FRP which was the odds on favorite for the 3rd pick.
The ping pong balls landed almost in the worst possible spots. We got 3 and 6 overall. Chauncey Billups n Ron Mercer. After not landing Duncan, Pitino just went nuts trading player after player. Still cant believe he didnt draft TMac at 6 but it wouldnt of mattered as he likely wouldve traded him aswell. He shipped Chauncey out his rookie season even though he showed promise for kenny anderson, who was undersized n bad defensively. I remember he gave Travis Knight a huge contract for a backup big lol. At least Pitino drafted Paul Pierce though 😂😂😂 even he couldnt mess that pick up. Dude literally fell in our lap at ten
It's a like before I even hit play. Great content. About time they get some respek on their names. Antoine Walker is my boy.
I love the videos I was born in 98 so it’s good to see the legendary stars of the 90s
Pierce was one of the most skilled player from that era, while kobe, tmac, VC exploded into the mainstream, Pierce silently put up big numbers, wasnt as explosive but he had the footwork, bb iq, variety of moves. Antoine in my opinion is the 1st big man with legit guard like handles, he had court vision, he had inside outside game similar to Pierce. Ainge wasnt a fan of Walker's game, traded the entire team when he became the GM, but prior to Ainge I wish they kept Joe Johnson and Chauncey billups.
Good description of both players you ever wanna be an nba broadcaster ??? I hear the working hrs are-GREAT-and you get in the arena for free.
If you think that Antoine walker was the first big man with legit guard handles, you showed how much you DONT know
@@dsg3053 😂 here comes the "i know basketball better " dude. Magic is pg, obvioulsy more effective handles , but antoine handles closely resembles the modern nba offense, you never saw Magic do the hesi - cross for a pull 3. Bird another big with handles, again more effective but isnt as flashy as Walker. Hakeem, KG, CWEBB, Ralph Samson, can navigate the court with decent handles but most operates their offense from 20 feet to inside the paint, Walker operates from beyond the 3 point line. Watch some Antoine Walker not the most efficient and effective but showed flashes of what the nba would become. His game resembles Carmelo anthony before melo was even drafted.
Paul Pierce was putting up numbers probably more then Carter . He just pr played with a lot of bad team mates
My era 😊
same
Thanks for posting this duo!!!🍀🍀🍀 Uggggghh Toine will always be a "what if" player to me. Walker was really a bit ahead of his time. His handles were really good for a PF, he was an excellent passer, and a good 3pt shooter. He was at his best attacking the hoop and playing with pace. Unfortunately he fell in love with the 3pt shot, and he became lazy n undisciplined on and off the court. He had the potential to be a hall of fame player, his first 3/4 seasons in the league gave every indication of this.
Sadly he basically peaked as a player at around 25 yrs old. He gained weight and was never the same losing speed, athleticism and quickness. He became a role player basically for the rest of his career after his stint(s) in Boston. Wouldve loved to see him reach his potential, which we all know Pierce seemed to do. They were alot of fun to watch, and played well off each other. That Pacers series in the playoffs brings back some fond memories. Thanks for the content ✌🏻🤙🏻
Great video brought back some good memories 🍀
Forgotten trio in Seattle Dale Ellis, Tom Chambers and Xavier McDaniel. Would be a great video all had good careers and chambers for some reason isn't in the Hall of Fame
I can't wait to keep seeing your channel grow. Thanks for all the work and research you put in.
I miss this duo
This is the best one of the DD series
Great video man
Thanks, appreciate it
My guys thanks for this video
Love the channel. Subscribed
Loved walker in college. One of my fav cats ever.. and one of the most under appreciated players in nba history imo. Dude was as good as pierce
Disregarded Duo: Mike Bibby & Chris Webber 🔥2000s
Can you please do Stackhouse and Grant Hill duo
Antoine walker was the first 3 point shooting PF.
Im 32. AI was my GOAT before LeBron for some context. This duo i remember like yesterday lol. I always wish ppl remembered walkers game more than the money problems.
Thank you
Paul Pierce was always a beast . The captain and the truth 34 . He was always up there with t Mac Kobe dirk Carter putting up numbers
Walker had a funky style of play.
Pierce and Walker was something serious I wish they would've stayed together I remember one would have 25 pts/game and the other would have 35 pts/game alternating 🔥🔥🏀🏀
They reached there peak in 2002. They parted ways because the organization chose Paul Pierce to became the face of the Celtics.
ALL CAP
I thought Mercer would be an absolute beast in the league... Walker and Pierce seemed like a forgone conclusion they'd be in the HOF. Too bad Walker couldn't stay motivated... he was scary good
Look at any of these guys who end up with their college coach in the NBA. Recent one being Hayward. I don't want to say one way or the other. But maybe this kind of thing can easily go south and stunt someones career like Mercer.
Then he moves on (or the Celtics change regimes) and he only knows how to play for Pitino. Just my two cents as I had thought the same thing.
@@AntiFreezePeach yeah I think you make a pretty good point. It's like they're in a system and only know that system
If only Toine stopped shooting long-range shots, his stats would've been better
I agree, Walker was my favorite then, but although he was Idol it is still frustrating watching him jack those 3s randomly 😂 tatum shot selection reminds me of Walker, both have size, handles, but settles for outside shots too much. Tatum is more focused and talented but he takes the most random 3s out there like Walker.
@@theclassicmanila-style8435 I think Walker was a better shooter than Tatum during crucial time.
@@goriotv2023 its crazy but tatum and walker had the same tendencies, they shoot jumpers when they could have used their size and height advantage over smaller defenders. Antoine had nice post moves and floaters before he fell inlove with the 3, I hope JT adds post moves and operates more in the post next yr.
@@theclassicmanila-style8435 Todays Celtics live by 3s and die by 3s. One of them cant use his left hand.
I don’t think Toine was serious, if he was, he would have ended up a hall of famer and he wouldn’t be broke.
Massachusetts in the hizzy
They ran that give and go play to a science. Maybe I am mis-naming the play. Its the one where Walker looks like he's gonna shoot and then he throws a lob pass to the block.
Imagine if they kept Joe Johnson what could have been?
And Billups
Only reason the celtics ever had a dip in dominance was from the passing of len bias and Reggie lewis
you gotta do jermain o’neal pacer years🔥
When the Celtics roster was entirely 1996-1998 KY Wildcats and Paul. Those years were an awesome time to be a KY and Celtics fan despite the losing records. No NBA team so I route for Boston and the Pacers and Im still mad that OKC has an NBA team but Louisville doesnt. Its the biggest college basketball market in the nation.
I actually liked the Celtics during the Pitino era even though they were missing playoffs, only team in the NBA with the full court press defense.
Cyber Twan and the Truth they had a good run. Twan was nice before he fell in love with the 3.
Cyber twon n the truth
Please Do John Wall & Gortat 🙏 or a Kevin love Ricky Rubio 🎉
Deron Williams and Carlos Boozer have to be next.
It's today to see a star player play 82 games.
AI’s time in Denver with Melo would be a good one to cover…
I wish they'd put the 01-02 celtics, and the 04-05 celtics in nba 2K, they might not have won championships but those were great teams
They were only behind Kobe and Shaq as second highest scoring duo at the time. Walker could have been a hall of famer if he kept himself in better shape and was more coachable. He took way too many 3s.
It's crazy that PP fell to ten in the draft. Back then you were penalized if you stayed in college more than two years. They would over analyze and pick your game apart. You were actually better off leaving after a year if you could.
I still bust out the Walker shimmy on occasion…!
Watching this again. I hope Jayson Tatum and Jaylen Brown dont end up like this.
That celtics 2002 play good basketball but nets were stronger that year
UK & KU
I did the Toine Shoulder Shimmy to this whole video. Real Ones Know ☘️
Best celtics duos until Jason Tatum & Jaylen Brown came along to wear that Celtics uniform
Walker and pierce is like the fat version of Tatum and brown
They were a decent duo and fun to watch but I didn’t particularly like them. They wasn’t going anywhere as a ball club but let’s address the elephant in the room:
*Pierce and Walker were not great defenders
*Pierce and Walker at times took bad shots
*They would settle for jump shots to bail out defenders
*and often times would be inconsistent
Let’s also remember the rosters wasn’t that well rounded either
Where I give pushback is Pierce not being a good defender. He was a pretty good defender, more than he gets credit for.
I dont think alot of you watched antonie walker play. Cause if you did..... you wouldn't be a fan
Mercer walker duo
I'm not trying to be mean. But it seems that it's always the guys that don't actually PLAY basketball that does the best job when it comes to discussing basketball history, analytics, and such...
Good video.
Pierce was THE TRUTH, but Toine was a big man who inexplicably developed into a volume 3pt shooter with questionable defensive, well everything🤔(he was how James Harden played in Houston)👍👎
Lol!! Nah ain’t nobody checking for no paul pierce lmao
- Lebron fan
Had they kept Iso Joe and Mr. BIG Shot they would have challenged the mighty Shaq and Kobe Lakers for the championship in the early 2000's.😊
Dont forget they also had Rick Fox and Bruce Bowen too.
Boy this is a really terrible video it's nothing but stats and this does not tell the story of Walker and Pierce and the fans and how they kept us coming until Danny age traded Walker and then it dropped off for a while. But you didn't talk about that
All I can think of is Jay Mohr doing his Boston fan accent.
ua-cam.com/video/1rQhVfHCdnI/v-deo.html
I look this again it's funny how he say I'll take that fade for wack j diggs will slap pony tails in ur head
Paul Pierce is responsible for some of the ugliest and most unathletic basketball ever. But I guess you can't argue with the results.
Its what you see from Luka today.
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 Hmmm...I can't agree with that. Luka is 1000x a better a player and athlete. He has quite a bit of hidden athleticism, though. Unlike Paul, which always looked out of his depth athletically, like he was getting away with something.
@miguelalegria3614 are you serious right now? You must have never seen how athletic Paul Pierce was in the early 2000s, a substantially better athlete than Luka by far. There are tons of posters Paul Pierce put people on. And to say Luka is 1000x better. Just say you don't like Paul Pierce
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 I saw it and yep, I'm absolutely serious. The basketball of both these people is simply not comparable. And I don't particularly like Luka either.
I wish AW stayed skinnier when he got bigger he got slower and less aggressive just shot 3s all the time
because just like he said. There was NO FOUR!
Larry's team forever,,,Lakers magic team forever, bulls Michael's team forever,,rockets Hakeems team forever, blazers team Clyde's team forever,,spurs team Duncan's team 4ever,,nothing much else to say