Thats not a very common issue in the Ferrari world. In particula this California has a start/stop-sytem, which seems to be the cause of the problems. I would say he should look for a propper workshop to sort out the drain.
I owned a 456GT for 18 years. I think that I replaced the battery once, more than 10 years ago. Since then she started every single time, often after many months (+6), costing my brother-in-law a fortune in lost bets. I did use the built in battery cut out switch which negated the alarm system but if your battery is flat then you'd get the same effect anyway.
If it was built like most production cars they would have gone broke a long time ago they make money on servicing and parts priced way over the top , like oil and filters , here in Australia service costs of $ 9000 for a service not worth it even if money grows on trees , the amount of problems they have doesn’t warrant having it
@@peterpan7840 depends how you drive it lot of people uses 4 to 5 times a week and still no reliability issue!! New Ferrari’s are as reliable as any other super/sports car.
The modern V8 cars, California or newer can last weeks without a charger. The V12 cars need a charger after 5 days or you will damage the battery, I know from my own experience
I've owned a 2010 California, a 2012 Cali, a 2015 Cali T, and now a 2020 Portofino. Along with them I have had two FF's (forget the years) and traded the last FF for a 2019 GTC4Lusso. Having a V8 convertible along with a V12 four seater is perfect for me and my family. I got 30,000 miles (roughly) on each before I traded it in for a new one. I loved every one of them. They all were daily drivers, summer and winter in NW Ohio, snow, salt and all. Most of the driving was local but often 150 miles one way. The problems that I have had were few, the 2010 Cali had an electrical connector in the driver's door repaired (many of the early cars had that issue). Later I had a current sensor in the top mechanism fail, new wire harness fixed under warranty. After five 30 minute sessions on the Mid-Ohio race course it needed a new set of brake pads, $3,500. The 2015 T had a radiator failure under warranty. The Cali's do need the battery tender if you plan to leave it sit for a week. The FF's and the GTC4Lusso need the tender after a couple days of sitting. The FF's did need a battery disconnect to reset things probably once a year, but that is a VERY easy job taking 4 minutes if you are slow. The GTC4Lusso did need a cruise control computer replacement when it was new, after reprograming it 4 times didn't work. The GTC4Lusso had a radiator failure, when a rock went through it. Otherwise I had no other issues! I do seem to get defective rear tires regularly as they wear out in 6,000 miles (kidding about defective, I just have too much fun with the power). And I've owned three Porsche 928's which were pretty much trouble free. I will keep the Ferraris as they are really no more trouble than the old 928's, and way more fun. I must add, the FF's and the GTC4Lusso eat batteries! The longest a battery has worked is 1.5 years. The shortest was 6 months. Great news with the GTC4Lusso is the battery failed a couple months ago. Ferrari said they would only replace it if the car had been driven over (I THINK) 5,000 miles, and it currently has around 24,000 miles, so it was repaired free. I have had 3 broken right front wheels, 7 bad rf tires in the FFs from potholes.
rickledrman: Your response makes you come across as a dick. Thirty thousand is nothing sport. Some of us believe good engineering means at least a hundred thousand with none to few issues.
@@stephencurry8552 First, I go by Rick, not dick. I put 32 years in our military, and much of that I worked one or two additional part time jobs to pay for a radio control model airplane habit, and a Porsche 928 habit (I've had three and one of them I put over 150,000 miles on myself). One of those jobs, I taught myself computer programming, and it is that work that puts me in the position to update cars rather than drive them 100k miles and almost every update gets you more Horsepower. I've been extremely fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. As an example, when I ordered my first California, that was 2010, and the stock market had crashed in 2008 and anyone with extra money was certainly not throwing it away on a car so I was able to get an allocation within a week. As a final note, I've let over 250 people drive my Ferraris, how about you?
I had an Acura TL type S many years ago that once, I left in a hotel parking lot for over a month while I traveled on business. It started right away when I turned on the ignition. It sure sounds like these Ferraris are more trouble than they are worth!!
Yours has the start/stop system too? The countless times i've had mine looked at because of battery failure I just keep getting told "its normal" from every dealer I've sent it to! I would be amazed if yours has start/stop and can go longer than a week without failing.
Porsche, multiple 911s turbos in the last 20 years, had never any serious issues unlike my friends who went with the Ferraris but their cars are longer at a service dealer than on the street. With my current 911 992, bought it when it had 47.000km on it, now I have 149.000 km as I am using it for work / daily driver , vacation car, basically for everything. Just servicing it and that's it.
I hear ya! My buddy bought an 07 in 09. Seriously he has never had any problems with it. Only has about 44 k miles so obviously doesn't drive it every day. Just a fun smooth car to drive. I've tried to buy it and he won't sell it ! Lol.
I have a couple of cars that sit for a while I don't get to drive them much. Having a battery tender is not an option because of where they are parked. I just make it a routine to turn them on and run them for a while every 3 days and now it's just my routine. I also have a battery charger/jumper if I go on vacation so I don't have to call someone and wait for them to charge my battery. If you have a car like that you need to set up a routine and have your own battery charger.
I don't get it. For most of these exotic expensive cars how can they have so much problems??? Don't make excuses for these cars. These car companies know how to make a reliable car. But it's more profitable changing parts than fixing them
They’re status symbols for rich people. The more fragile and expensive to repair they are, the better they work as status symbols. If you’re concerned about practicality, you’re not the target market. If you idolize trouble-free transportation, maybe you should put a poster of a Camry on your wall.
I dont think its more profitable for them to produce cars with issues, since reliability was a huge problem back in the 90s and sales dropped. Thats why the Italians offer an extended warranty, so they get back their customers / or gain new customers. With new cars they will give you 7 years warranty. Almost everything that breaks on the car, will be replaced by Ferrari. And those are not small numbers. My dealership has also a pickup service, so you dont have to drive on a train (lol) for 350 miles like the dude in the video. They come and get the car, and when it is ready, they will deliver it to you. No problems so far with that. Works great. Also: No, they are not status symbols for everyone. I just appreciate to own nice things, and driving an emotional car, preferably on alpine roads. Everytime I open my garage I look at those beautiful cars, and its quite relieving. Starting a Ferrari up is the best part. I am not a show off, nor do I drive those cars to stroll on streets to get attention. Oh, by the way: I have had bad and good experiences with the brand. Some cars are just rubbish, some are flawless.
What's great is watching the cash nightmare that keeping one of these cars alive is. basic parts cost a fortune and the design is not service-oriented.
I love your car, but I have a 991.2 Porsche Turbo S convertible. I have left it parked much longer than three weeks without a trickle charger. Maybe get a new Turbo S 🤷♂️ yours is prettier though
Had a 2009 California for 4 years used as daily driver with no probs. Then a 458 speciale which i rarely used (about 6000mls in 4 years) and never had any issurs. Now i am going for gtc4lusso
I have a solution, so what tends to go wrong with these cars are electronics engine and transmission right? sooooo GET RID OF THEM and ls swap it or something, do the bare minuimum so it drives and is legal and also there are problems with the roof... SO GET RID OF IT boom NO MORE PROBLEMS
I own a 2007 Audi A6. I never went for a technical inspection ever. I just change the oil. And add water when needed. I never had any problems ever. I love Ferrari but I know about these issues. Good luck 🍀
Why not? If I bought a Ferrari, I'd humbly expect to get 10-16 miles out of a gallon in normal road traffic (much less on a race track, obviously). Steep, but to be expected. If it gave significantly less than that, I'd suspect a technical fault - and after paying a pretty hefty price for the car, I'd complain about that, too. He wasn't specific about what mileage he got and what he had expected - but buying a Ferrari doesn't switch off all perception of quality and value - so no need to insult him for that.
Hello, my name is Enzo. I appreciate the honest criticism. Just notifying you that will be receiving your obligatory cease and desist order immediately. Thank you for being a customer.
1: People who purchase a Ferrari don’t worry about the cost of fuel. 2: Even if the car can fit 10 people, only 2 are ever getting in. 3: Things go wrong with every special vehicle. 4: Ever heard of a trickle charger?
1. True lol 2. If its your everyday drive, sometimes you might want friends or children to be in the car. 3. Which is why you don't want it as your everyday drive. 4. What if you are travelling, in a carpark or at a hotel and theres no power access?
Points 1-3 totally agree.... but absolutely not on point 4. Why should you have to trickle charge a car? Especially at this price, when it should be the pinnacle of technology How stupid that when your on a road trip with your wife and you get to the 5-Star Spa hotel ..... the first thing you have to ask is if you can get an extension lead to trickle charge your poor ailing temperamental ferrari. 😂
Many years ago, I thought I was rich, turns out no, but I had a choice between a Ferrari and a Porsche. Hearing this type of word of mouth, I chose a Porsche GT3. Now 16 years later and 55,000 miles, my car has had no mechanical problems whatsoever. My dealership is warm and friendly. I still have a smile every time I get out of it. I think I was very lucky.
"Ferraris are complicated cars and the engine is superadvanced"... It's a car... just your specific car is one of those with loads of faults. It happens. Not Ferrari-unique. I've driven my Porsche for 110.000km in 4,5 years as daily driver. The battery issue must be related to something drawing electricuty when it shouldn't when the car is off. You need to find yourself an independent workshop who specialuzes in sportscars in general. You can't go to the dealerships workshops, they're incompetent (even the Porsche one's). You need to find the independent specialuzed workshops where the mechanics smell and talk to the cars basically. Kind of like "the sportscar whisperer". I think your problem is the workshop.
I had a California T, great car, never had a single issue with it. Fuel economy on the motorway is 25 to the gallon at LEAST, around town honing around, yeah, but if you can’t afford it, don’t buy one
Concerning your battery, would go for a gel optima battery, should fix the problem. This i used in my porsche with a professional audio system. Fixed my problem.
Never had a battery failing after "5 or 7 days" on any of my F cars, and that includes both vintage and more modern cars. And everyone knows all you need is a battery tender.
Fuel: We know you can afford the fuel. More people: It's NOT meant for more than 2 people. Fixing: Find a specialist for routine stuff like oil changes. Battery: I agree. Try the optima gel battery. Repairs: Buy it a few years used so the kinks have already been taken care of.
About the battery- Do you leave it on the battery tender? (Trickle charger) Also, the F8 has an Auto-start disable button. I push it every time before I go for a drive. Gimmick to meet corporate average fuel economy, but it's just annoying and probably wears out the starter. Edit: Oh, you couldn't charge it while traveling
I do drive one every day, it less expensive that running an M4 or an Rs5 both on petrol and insurance. I know because I have had these cars too. The servicing is the only thing to consider and procure a good warranty or a main dealer warranty. These cars are for car lovers . Lastly, invest in a trickle charger 😊
Interestingly the Maserati Granturismo of the same era also has a similar problem with battery drain. I pick my California up on Friday, thankfully I don't have the HELE system fitted. I also have the two year extended warranty and will keep that going as long as I have the car and Ferrari will let me. Thanks for the video, it was really useful.
We have a Ferrari dealership in Wilsonville Oregon just a couple blocks down the road from hs2 Oregon where you can take a drive test and driving classes
We had the 2 day battery, now the 5 days battery, why doesn't Ferrari sort their c2ap electronic earthing problem out or give them a battery isolator switch (not a charging cable) and give thier customers a 5 year battery?
Is the cabin drone as pronounced in person as it seems in the video? Or is that due to the position/mounting of the mic (most video's I've seen have the camera/mic mounted on the window and I didn't notice a drone)? One of the reasons I'm looking at the California is because I was under the impression that it was relatively quiet at highway cruising speeds. One road trip I like to make is about 500 miles each way, and most of it is highway driving. A cabin drone that makes normal conversation difficult with the top up would be a deal breaker for me.
Some of these points aren’t any different than daily driving a Camaro SS or C7 Corvette. Lack of back seat use, battery dies if left untouched for a week, etc.
Get a clamp meter on the B+ and pull fuses until the current stops, then remove the fuse when not using it. Any decent auto electrician should be able to offer you some sort of workaround for this issue, unless you have to reset things, or it causes other issues like the alarm being the actual culprit.
I work rotational shifts with 8 weeks at work and 4 weeks off. My RS6 will start first time, every time after not being driven for 8 weeks. As far as I am aware there is only one battery. Not sure what Ferrari is doing here 🤔
The battery problem isn't limited to the California model. Ferraris start at a quarter million dollars when new, and yet the electrical system is such that the battery drains in a matter of days if left sitting. That's absolutely outrageous. Who did they use to build electrical system, Lucas Electric, the infamous Prince of Darkness that played havoc with Jaguars for decades?
They do not say it has 4 seats. It is called a 2+2. In Europe, those back seats even have height restrictions for the people sitting there. Also, no one is going to be surprised about the running costs. I was expecting something more in-depth. Ferrari’s also don’t really have a bad battery. This is absolutely normal for such a car. You need a trickle charger. This goes for modern Carrera’s, AMG’s and any sports or supercar. The battery is quite a bit bigger in the proper Ferrari GT’s, so a week should be no problem in an F12 or 599.
I don't get it. What would drain the battery from parking? Do you need to turn the battery off or disconnect it or some such thing? Something in your interior is rattling.
If you have the money to buy a Ferrari why would gasoline be an issue? The same with service fees and maintenance schedules. I would think a Ferrrari owner would have a normal driver car and the Ferrari is for the pleasure drives. You can fix the battery issue by turning off the keyless entry function -where it is constantly searching for the key’s presence. Mercedes do the same thing.
Do you really think anyone considers the fuel costs when buying a Ferrari… it’s irreverent… not even a consideration when you spend 100k plus …everyone knows the brand is fraught with reliability issues … amazing to look at … great to drive when working .. but ultimately a bottomless money pit for the millionaires who can afford to just burn the cash in ownership … if you want an every day super car then time and again its the Porsche… German reliability… or alternatively hire your super car for the weekend have your fun and hand it back & let the hire company pick up the running costs … the other wiser amongst us get an Audi RS6 or RS7.. 😁
You know, I think you'd be better served with a 911 Turbo. Not ridiculous on MPG, ridiculously fast, very reliable and I think you may just have a better experience at the dealerships (as long as you aren't trying to buy a Porsche GT range car). I'm about to flip over 90,000 miles on my 997 Turbo and other than fluid changes, motor mounts (which I did myself for about $250 in less than 2 hours) and a brake job, it has been trouble free. I know it isn't quite as pretty to look at as a Ferrari, but there is something to be said for the value of your time and patience. At 49 years old myself, I can tell you, you'll become less tolerant of these kinds of problems as you get older. :)
It is, when properly placed. So if you're traveling to France, have one spare to pick up & install before driving through the chunnel on the return trip
It should do better than that even in massive traffic jams or on a racetrack. But hey, maybe his car really goes THAT wrong - and then I'd agree with his complaint.
IMO only very wealthy people daily Ferrari's. They have little interest in residuals, maintenance costs, running costs, etc. Everyone else who can afford a Ferrari should look at it as a 2nd car only and treat it as an asset. And on this basis as similar high maintenance costs will still be incurred regardless of model I would recommend buying a well cared for older model with a desirable spec so that you will see most of your original payment back and many of the niggles from the original build may have been resolved. 360/430/550 gated manual's perhaps. Very exciting cars with incredible sound tracks. Otherwise, as dozens are also advising, buy a 911. So reliable, very reasonable repair costs as there are so many specialists, and plenty of the models hold their value exceptionally well. Or perhaps the R8.
The 5 day battery is a massive improvement over the 2 day batteries of the early 90's.
HA HA HA
Hopefully v will get a 10 day battery in the years to come
Thats not a very common issue in the Ferrari world. In particula this California has a start/stop-sytem, which seems to be the cause of the problems. I would say he should look for a propper workshop to sort out the drain.
I owned a 456GT for 18 years. I think that I replaced the battery once, more than 10 years ago. Since then she started every single time, often after many months (+6), costing my brother-in-law a fortune in lost bets. I did use the built in battery cut out switch which negated the alarm system but if your battery is flat then you'd get the same effect anyway.
@@veenoth_gaming8445 296GTB
If it was built like most production cars they would have gone broke a long time ago they make money on servicing and parts priced way over the top , like oil and filters , here in Australia service costs of
$ 9000 for a service not worth it even if money grows on trees , the amount of problems they have doesn’t warrant having it
When Ferrari say the car is suitable as a daily driver, they mean you MUST drive it daily or the battery will go flat.😆
so it's perfect as a daily :)
Sorry but not true. Once a week would suffice...
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@@peterpan7840 depends how you drive it lot of people uses 4 to 5 times a week and still no reliability issue!! New Ferrari’s are as reliable as any other super/sports car.
The modern V8 cars, California or newer can last weeks without a charger. The V12 cars need a charger after 5 days or you will damage the battery, I know from my own experience
I've owned a 2010 California, a 2012 Cali, a 2015 Cali T, and now a 2020 Portofino. Along with them I have had two FF's (forget the years) and traded the last FF for a 2019 GTC4Lusso. Having a V8 convertible along with a V12 four seater is perfect for me and my family. I got 30,000 miles (roughly) on each before I traded it in for a new one. I loved every one of them. They all were daily drivers, summer and winter in NW Ohio, snow, salt and all. Most of the driving was local but often 150 miles one way. The problems that I have had were few, the 2010 Cali had an electrical connector in the driver's door repaired (many of the early cars had that issue). Later I had a current sensor in the top mechanism fail, new wire harness fixed under warranty. After five 30 minute sessions on the Mid-Ohio race course it needed a new set of brake pads, $3,500. The 2015 T had a radiator failure under warranty. The Cali's do need the battery tender if you plan to leave it sit for a week. The FF's and the GTC4Lusso need the tender after a couple days of sitting. The FF's did need a battery disconnect to reset things probably once a year, but that is a VERY easy job taking 4 minutes if you are slow. The GTC4Lusso did need a cruise control computer replacement when it was new, after reprograming it 4 times didn't work. The GTC4Lusso had a radiator failure, when a rock went through it. Otherwise I had no other issues! I do seem to get defective rear tires regularly as they wear out in 6,000 miles (kidding about defective, I just have too much fun with the power). And I've owned three Porsche 928's which were pretty much trouble free. I will keep the Ferraris as they are really no more trouble than the old 928's, and way more fun. I must add, the FF's and the GTC4Lusso eat batteries! The longest a battery has worked is 1.5 years. The shortest was 6 months. Great news with the GTC4Lusso is the battery failed a couple months ago. Ferrari said they would only replace it if the car had been driven over (I THINK) 5,000 miles, and it currently has around 24,000 miles, so it was repaired free. I have had 3 broken right front wheels, 7 bad rf tires in the FFs from potholes.
You didn’t mention anything about the portofino.. was that trouble free?
@@zeeshan1300 Mine was. The only thing is that you have to connect it to the battery tender.
rickledrman: Your response makes you come across as a dick. Thirty thousand is nothing sport. Some of us believe good engineering means at least a hundred thousand with none to few issues.
The Portofino a couple months ago had the left electronic display fail. The list price for the display only was $10,000.@@zeeshan1300
@@stephencurry8552 First, I go by Rick, not dick. I put 32 years in our military, and much of that I worked one or two additional part time jobs to pay for a radio control model airplane habit, and a Porsche 928 habit (I've had three and one of them I put over 150,000 miles on myself). One of those jobs, I taught myself computer programming, and it is that work that puts me in the position to update cars rather than drive them 100k miles and almost every update gets you more Horsepower. I've been extremely fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. As an example, when I ordered my first California, that was 2010, and the stock market had crashed in 2008 and anyone with extra money was certainly not throwing it away on a car so I was able to get an allocation within a week. As a final note, I've let over 250 people drive my Ferraris, how about you?
The fuel bills are to be expected. The other reliability issues are just unacceptable though.
Buy a Ford - the worst car they make is better than a Ferrari
I had an Acura TL type S many years ago that once, I left in a hotel parking lot for over a month while I traveled on business. It started right away when I turned on the ignition.
It sure sounds like these Ferraris are more trouble than they are worth!!
I have a Toyota 86. Left it parked in my garage for 8 weeks while I travelled and it started straight up too.
NEVER buy a Ferrari
I'll bet you'd still take a used one for free!
I have exactly the same California. It's often not used for weeks and I never have a problem to start it.
Yours has the start/stop system too? The countless times i've had mine looked at because of battery failure I just keep getting told "its normal" from every dealer I've sent it to! I would be amazed if yours has start/stop and can go longer than a week without failing.
Yeah because yours is not a dud. He bought a lemon lol.
what is your insurance?
Do you have a california t. Because the 4.3 california is terrible. The 3.85 California t is worlds apart.
The guy is an absolute PLONKER
Porsche, multiple 911s turbos in the last 20 years, had never any serious issues unlike my friends who went with the Ferraris but their cars are longer at a service dealer than on the street. With my current 911 992, bought it when it had 47.000km on it, now I have 149.000 km as I am using it for work / daily driver , vacation car, basically for everything. Just servicing it and that's it.
Porsches are also boring, so it’s a trade off.
Fit a battery isolator switch. Easy to switch off when leaving for days. What you say is true, though. It’s ridiculous to have such an issue.
Been driving the California daily for a year now, so far no battery issues. 🤞🏻
The guy is idiot 1euro per km is 80l per 100km is impossible
The guy is a PLONKER
Yeah but if you're daily driving it... then it's not sat in a garage for five days.
@@adrianf7106 he meant the cost to own a ferrari per mile, not exactly the fuel consumption
It's not a matter of IF but WHEN.
You are about to get hit hard
OMG, I'm keeping my Mercedes CLK 350 cabriolet. Bought it at 5 yrs old, and owned it for 8 yrs now. Never any major problems!
I hear ya! My buddy bought an 07 in 09. Seriously he has never had any problems with it. Only has about 44 k miles so obviously doesn't drive it every day. Just a fun smooth car to drive. I've tried to buy it and he won't sell it ! Lol.
Opertive ....Major!!!....Get a Lexus!
There's a price to pay if you want to play the big boys game
I have a couple of cars that sit for a while I don't get to drive them much. Having a battery tender is not an option because of where they are parked. I just make it a routine to turn them on and run them for a while every 3 days and now it's just my routine. I also have a battery charger/jumper if I go on vacation so I don't have to call someone and wait for them to charge my battery. If you have a car like that you need to set up a routine and have your own battery charger.
I have no desire to own one! Bought a Shelby GT 350 ❤️ never a problem.
1965?
I don't get it. For most of these exotic expensive cars how can they have so much problems??? Don't make excuses for these cars. These car companies know how to make a reliable car. But it's more profitable changing parts than fixing them
They’re status symbols for rich people. The more fragile and expensive to repair they are, the better they work as status symbols. If you’re concerned about practicality, you’re not the target market. If you idolize trouble-free transportation, maybe you should put a poster of a Camry on your wall.
I dont think its more profitable for them to produce cars with issues, since reliability was a huge problem back in the 90s and sales dropped. Thats why the Italians offer an extended warranty, so they get back their customers / or gain new customers. With new cars they will give you 7 years warranty. Almost everything that breaks on the car, will be replaced by Ferrari. And those are not small numbers.
My dealership has also a pickup service, so you dont have to drive on a train (lol) for 350 miles like the dude in the video. They come and get the car, and when it is ready, they will deliver it to you. No problems so far with that. Works great.
Also: No, they are not status symbols for everyone. I just appreciate to own nice things, and driving an emotional car, preferably on alpine roads. Everytime I open my garage I look at those beautiful cars, and its quite relieving. Starting a Ferrari up is the best part. I am not a show off, nor do I drive those cars to stroll on streets to get attention.
Oh, by the way: I have had bad and good experiences with the brand. Some cars are just rubbish, some are flawless.
@@BillLaBrie oh you're a Jordan Peterson fan. I can see why you like super cars... Compensating!
@@fookorf MAGA!
Ferraris are like women. High matintenence
And just as stroppy....
your charisma more real with your car feedback. thanks man. I had 458 and same battery issue!
What's great is watching the cash nightmare that keeping one of these cars alive is.
basic parts cost a fortune and the design is not service-oriented.
I love your car, but I have a 991.2 Porsche Turbo S convertible. I have left it parked much longer than three weeks without a trickle charger. Maybe get a new Turbo S 🤷♂️ yours is prettier though
Had a 2009 California for 4 years used as daily driver with no probs. Then a 458 speciale which i rarely used (about 6000mls in 4 years) and never had any issurs. Now i am going for gtc4lusso
I think use the cost of car to buy a property, then use the rent to rent one, always enjoy different ones without the issue you mebtioned.
Thanks finally someone who justs gives advice without dragging the video out
For me, reliability comes at the top of having pleasure to own a car, this why I am not even attracted to own a Ferrari.
agreed!
I have a solution, so what tends to go wrong with these cars are electronics engine and transmission right?
sooooo GET RID OF THEM and ls swap it or something, do the bare minuimum so it drives and is legal and also there are problems with the roof...
SO GET RID OF IT boom NO MORE PROBLEMS
Porsche 911 every time....or a Huracan,thanks to Audi input,pretty well sorted car...
@@paullacey2999 Audi ? Geez, they arent reliable at all. Grossly overrated.
Same for me: it's has already been painful enough to own high end German cars, so it would be too stressful for someone like me to own a Ferrari
Nothing wrong with my Fiesta van , sport model ,I'll have you know. It will keep up with any Ferrari , there are so many cameras around here.
Thanks for the information if I ever do get a Ferrari Portofino I will customized make sure I can get rid of those problems you mentioned.
Pistongreg bro a Ferrari portofino wont have those problems lol his car is like 9 years old. I bet the 2015 California wont even have those problems
Nobody keeps you away from adding a fully loaded battery into your trunk.
As soon as I have enough money to buy a Ferrari I'm going to get an Audi.
I own a 2007 Audi A6. I never went for a technical inspection ever. I just change the oil. And add water when needed.
I never had any problems ever.
I love Ferrari but I know about these issues.
Good luck 🍀
Buys a Ferrari, complains about fuel consumption. WANKPUFFIN.
Did you already buy yours?
Absolute PLONKER
Why not? If I bought a Ferrari, I'd humbly expect to get 10-16 miles out of a gallon in normal road traffic (much less on a race track, obviously). Steep, but to be expected.
If it gave significantly less than that, I'd suspect a technical fault - and after paying a pretty hefty price for the car, I'd complain about that, too.
He wasn't specific about what mileage he got and what he had expected - but buying a Ferrari doesn't switch off all perception of quality and value - so no need to insult him for that.
Wouldn t that be a great problem to have.
Says the guy with a clipped 2005 Audi.
Hello, my name is Enzo. I appreciate the honest criticism. Just notifying you that will be receiving your obligatory cease and desist order immediately. Thank you for being a customer.
1: People who purchase a Ferrari don’t worry about the cost of fuel.
2: Even if the car can fit 10 people, only 2 are ever getting in.
3: Things go wrong with every special vehicle.
4: Ever heard of a trickle charger?
1. True lol
2. If its your everyday drive, sometimes you might want friends or children to be in the car.
3. Which is why you don't want it as your everyday drive.
4. What if you are travelling, in a carpark or at a hotel and theres no power access?
Points 1-3 totally agree.... but absolutely not on point 4.
Why should you have to trickle charge a car? Especially at this price, when it should be the pinnacle of technology
How stupid that when your on a road trip with your wife and you get to the 5-Star Spa hotel ..... the first thing you have to ask is if you can get an extension lead to trickle charge your poor ailing temperamental ferrari. 😂
Many years ago, I thought I was rich, turns out no, but I had a choice between a Ferrari and a Porsche. Hearing this type of word of mouth, I chose a Porsche GT3.
Now 16 years later and 55,000 miles, my car has had no mechanical problems whatsoever. My dealership is warm and friendly. I still have a smile every time I get out of it. I think I was very lucky.
Your Ferrari is why I have an Acura NSX.
"Ferraris are complicated cars and the engine is superadvanced"...
It's a car... just your specific car is one of those with loads of faults. It happens. Not Ferrari-unique.
I've driven my Porsche for 110.000km in 4,5 years as daily driver.
The battery issue must be related to something drawing electricuty when it shouldn't when the car is off.
You need to find yourself an independent workshop who specialuzes in sportscars in general. You can't go to the dealerships workshops, they're incompetent (even the Porsche one's). You need to find the independent specialuzed workshops where the mechanics smell and talk to the cars basically. Kind of like "the sportscar whisperer".
I think your problem is the workshop.
I had a California T, great car, never had a single issue with it. Fuel economy on the motorway is 25 to the gallon at LEAST, around town honing around, yeah, but if you can’t afford it, don’t buy one
Looks good, so much fun to drive and expensive to keep running. ...and not for every day use. Hmm, sounds like the side chic.
Concerning your battery, would go for a gel optima battery, should fix the problem. This i used in my porsche with a professional audio system. Fixed my problem.
Never had a battery failing after "5 or 7 days" on any of my F cars, and that includes both vintage and more modern cars. And everyone knows all you need is a battery tender.
Fuel: We know you can afford the fuel.
More people: It's NOT meant for more than 2 people.
Fixing: Find a specialist for routine stuff like oil changes.
Battery: I agree. Try the optima gel battery.
Repairs: Buy it a few years used so the kinks have already been taken care of.
I had a new Lexus LS460 same problem. If car sat for 4 days, dead battery.
Must be an early model. My 2014 Cali30 HS has been great.
For the battery, consider an Antigravity LiFePo battery, with the remote re-start capability
I will take your advice and never buy a Ferrari
Because I cant
About the battery- Do you leave it on the battery tender? (Trickle charger)
Also, the F8 has an Auto-start disable button. I push it every time before I go for a drive. Gimmick to meet corporate average fuel economy, but it's just annoying and probably wears out the starter.
Edit: Oh, you couldn't charge it while traveling
Owning a Ferrari is like having a 10 out of 10 girlfriend who has cancer. Your forever taking her to the hospital for treatment.
You could put a simple kill switch on the battery just goes over the negative terminal
I hope that Cali is not 2009-2012? The DCTs stop working and are a huge cost to replace.
I do drive one every day, it less expensive that running an M4 or an Rs5 both on petrol and insurance. I know because I have had these cars too. The servicing is the only thing to consider and procure a good warranty or a main dealer warranty. These cars are for car lovers . Lastly, invest in a trickle charger 😊
Interestingly the Maserati Granturismo of the same era also has a similar problem with battery drain. I pick my California up on Friday, thankfully I don't have the HELE system fitted. I also have the two year extended warranty and will keep that going as long as I have the car and Ferrari will let me.
Thanks for the video, it was really useful.
I believe that model Maserati has a Ferrari drivetrain so there ya go.
Now some of the manufacturers give you a charger. But 5 days is too low.
We have a Ferrari dealership in Wilsonville Oregon just a couple blocks down the road from hs2 Oregon where you can take a drive test and driving classes
I had a 2008 Audi S3 in 2010 that started up after not being driven in 2 months, no problem.
Haha! Five fuckin days ! You fuck!! Sorry, but that was funny.
Thank you so much for sharing this video . It definitely was an eye opener for me !!!
My Aston Martin DB9 didn’t hold battery charge after 5/7 days either.
We had the 2 day battery, now the 5 days battery, why doesn't Ferrari sort their c2ap electronic earthing problem out or give them a battery isolator switch (not a charging cable) and give thier customers a 5 year battery?
I sent this comment from Japan.I surprised because my F's color is same with you and quite rare. I think keep this one whole my life!
Is the cabin drone as pronounced in person as it seems in the video? Or is that due to the position/mounting of the mic (most video's I've seen have the camera/mic mounted on the window and I didn't notice a drone)? One of the reasons I'm looking at the California is because I was under the impression that it was relatively quiet at highway cruising speeds. One road trip I like to make is about 500 miles each way, and most of it is highway driving. A cabin drone that makes normal conversation difficult with the top up would be a deal breaker for me.
Some of these points aren’t any different than daily driving a Camaro SS or C7 Corvette. Lack of back seat use, battery dies if left untouched for a week, etc.
Good clip, but plese use a lapel mic if you haven't already started. Cuts out much of the car's interior noise.
The type of person that buys a Ferrari generally doesn't care about the high costs, because they're only interested in impressing other people.
Get a clamp meter on the B+ and pull fuses until the current stops, then remove the fuse when not using it. Any decent auto electrician should be able to offer you some sort of workaround for this issue, unless you have to reset things, or it causes other issues like the alarm being the actual culprit.
Basically what you are saying, stay away from Ferrari's. Ferrari's are a piece of crap. Thank you!
Like Mclaren,totally overrated...
@@paullacey2999 Thank you!!
I have the same Ferrari and I changed the battery, I left 2 weeks and it started right up, and no I dont have stop start
Exactly. If I buy another I will absolutely make sure there's no stop start! Ridiculous system! I don't even use the stop start system either!! XD
After that glowing review why would you ever buy another one?
I work rotational shifts with 8 weeks at work and 4 weeks off. My RS6 will start first time, every time after not being driven for 8 weeks. As far as I am aware there is only one battery. Not sure what Ferrari is doing here 🤔
Jay Leno was right that's why he don't by them too many problems for someone to be super rich and could afford it and turn it away and said no
Buying a 100k car I wouldn't worry about gas. LOL.
I live in the US and we pay way less for gas then the UK does around 43% less
you have no idea what it is like to be able to afford a $100K car so your posting is irrelevant, easy to take shots at something you know zero about
The battery problem isn't limited to the California model. Ferraris start at a quarter million dollars when new, and yet the electrical system is such that the battery drains in a matter of days if left sitting. That's absolutely outrageous. Who did they use to build electrical system, Lucas Electric, the infamous Prince of Darkness that played havoc with Jaguars for decades?
They do not say it has 4 seats. It is called a 2+2. In Europe, those back seats even have height restrictions for the people sitting there. Also, no one is going to be surprised about the running costs. I was expecting something more in-depth. Ferrari’s also don’t really have a bad battery. This is absolutely normal for such a car. You need a trickle charger. This goes for modern Carrera’s, AMG’s and any sports or supercar. The battery is quite a bit bigger in the proper Ferrari GT’s, so a week should be no problem in an F12 or 599.
They need to add a switch that disconnects the battery when you want to.
I don't get it. What would drain the battery from parking? Do you need to turn the battery off or disconnect it or some such thing?
Something in your interior is rattling.
If people stopped buying them,they would get their finger out and improve them......
If you have the money to buy a Ferrari why would gasoline be an issue? The same with service fees and maintenance schedules. I would think a Ferrrari owner would have a normal driver car and the Ferrari is for the pleasure drives. You can fix the battery issue by turning off the keyless entry function -where it is constantly searching for the key’s presence. Mercedes do the same thing.
I live in Texas, USA so petrol is pretty cheap. I would be happy to daily a Ferrari.
Do you really think anyone considers the fuel costs when buying a Ferrari… it’s irreverent… not even a consideration when you spend 100k plus …everyone knows the brand is fraught with reliability issues … amazing to look at … great to drive when working .. but ultimately a bottomless money pit for the millionaires who can afford to just burn the cash in ownership … if you want an every day super car then time and again its the Porsche… German reliability… or alternatively hire your super car for the weekend have your fun and hand it back & let the hire company pick up the running costs … the other wiser amongst us get an Audi RS6 or RS7.. 😁
I had a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale for two months and got rid for an Audi because of all the issues.
I drive a Ferrari 599 GTO and I never experienced such thing.
You know, I think you'd be better served with a 911 Turbo. Not ridiculous on MPG, ridiculously fast, very reliable and I think you may just have a better experience at the dealerships (as long as you aren't trying to buy a Porsche GT range car). I'm about to flip over 90,000 miles on my 997 Turbo and other than fluid changes, motor mounts (which I did myself for about $250 in less than 2 hours) and a brake job, it has been trouble free. I know it isn't quite as pretty to look at as a Ferrari, but there is something to be said for the value of your time and patience. At 49 years old myself, I can tell you, you'll become less tolerant of these kinds of problems as you get older. :)
If the battery dies after 5 days then something is draining it and from which year it is build.
That’s why it’s called The Italian Job, like the money heist film.
yeah i knew a guy with a ferrari, when he went on trips he had a brand new battery he brought with him to install after sitting for a week or two.
Honestly, if you bought a Kia and it had that many problems, you'd be pissed.
Tell you what,the Stinger looks as good as any supercar👍
Simple solution is one of the remote battery chargers for less than $300.
I hear you can daily drive a GTO with no issues. But that's the Pontiac version. I would never get an Italian car.
thanks for the advice
Batteries are heavy and affect performance so an extra battery is not a perfect solution for anyone who cares about that.
It is, when properly placed. So if you're traveling to France, have one spare to pick up & install before driving through the chunnel on the return trip
Suggesting to add two batteries in the Ferrari 😂
Get Antigravity lithium re-start battery, it will solve your issues with the battery.
My BMW starts right up after 4 months of not driving. Battery life of just 5 days is insane.
So what kills the battery? when off
sorry to say but it sounds completely ridiculous..
They are piece of crap if you ask me, you can be sure if i pay 200k + for a car i want Lexus like reliability, that being said they are very pretty.
Bullshit how 1euro per km, this means 80l per 100km, when you own 200.000 euro car you don't care about fuel
It should do better than that even in massive traffic jams or on a racetrack.
But hey, maybe his car really goes THAT wrong - and then I'd agree with his complaint.
Beautiful color, is it Blu Mirabeau?
5 days and a battery that dies would drive me crazy
IMO only very wealthy people daily Ferrari's. They have little interest in residuals, maintenance costs, running costs, etc.
Everyone else who can afford a Ferrari should look at it as a 2nd car only and treat it as an asset. And on this basis as similar high maintenance costs will still be incurred regardless of model I would recommend buying a well cared for older model with a desirable spec so that you will see most of your original payment back and many of the niggles from the original build may have been resolved. 360/430/550 gated manual's perhaps. Very exciting cars with incredible sound tracks.
Otherwise, as dozens are also advising, buy a 911. So reliable, very reasonable repair costs as there are so many specialists, and plenty of the models hold their value exceptionally well. Or perhaps the R8.
When they talk about Italian design and quality, they aren't lying.
fuel you have to pay to play. i have a 458 and it is a good daily driver to be honest. I dont care to have others in the car with me personally.
That's correct! You want a Ruf, Porsche, or a McLaren for a daily driver.
It's ridiculous that buyers accept this bs when they spend so much money on a car.
It wld just annoy me beyond belief that if i was by the side of the road that id be thinking this wldnt happen to me if id bought a carolla.........