Why you DON'T want a Ferrari as your everyday car!
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- Опубліковано 1 лип 2024
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Ferrari's are super exciting to drive, but there are some serious design flaws that make them a TERRIBLE everyday car.
Here I break down the reasons why you DO NOT want to own a Ferrari and use it as your daily car.
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When Ferrari say the car is suitable as a daily driver, they mean you MUST drive it daily or the battery will go flat.😆
so it's perfect as a daily :)
Sorry but not true. Once a week would suffice...
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@@peterpan7840 depends how you drive it lot of people uses 4 to 5 times a week and still no reliability issue!! New Ferrari’s are as reliable as any other super/sports car.
The modern V8 cars, California or newer can last weeks without a charger. The V12 cars need a charger after 5 days or you will damage the battery, I know from my own experience
The 5 day battery is a massive improvement over the 2 day batteries of the early 90's.
HA HA HA
Hopefully v will get a 10 day battery in the years to come
Thats not a very common issue in the Ferrari world. In particula this California has a start/stop-sytem, which seems to be the cause of the problems. I would say he should look for a propper workshop to sort out the drain.
I owned a 456GT for 18 years. I think that I replaced the battery once, more than 10 years ago. Since then she started every single time, often after many months (+6), costing my brother-in-law a fortune in lost bets. I did use the built in battery cut out switch which negated the alarm system but if your battery is flat then you'd get the same effect anyway.
@@veenoth_gaming8445 296GTB
If it was built like most production cars they would have gone broke a long time ago they make money on servicing and parts priced way over the top , like oil and filters , here in Australia service costs of
$ 9000 for a service not worth it even if money grows on trees , the amount of problems they have doesn’t warrant having it
I have exactly the same California. It's often not used for weeks and I never have a problem to start it.
Yours has the start/stop system too? The countless times i've had mine looked at because of battery failure I just keep getting told "its normal" from every dealer I've sent it to! I would be amazed if yours has start/stop and can go longer than a week without failing.
Yeah because yours is not a dud. He bought a lemon lol.
what is your insurance?
Do you have a california t. Because the 4.3 california is terrible. The 3.85 California t is worlds apart.
The guy is an absolute PLONKER
Nobody keeps you away from adding a fully loaded battery into your trunk.
The fuel bills are to be expected. The other reliability issues are just unacceptable though.
Buy a Ford - the worst car they make is better than a Ferrari
your charisma more real with your car feedback. thanks man. I had 458 and same battery issue!
Been driving the California daily for a year now, so far no battery issues. 🤞🏻
The guy is idiot 1euro per km is 80l per 100km is impossible
The guy is a PLONKER
Yeah but if you're daily driving it... then it's not sat in a garage for five days.
@@adrianf7106 he meant the cost to own a ferrari per mile, not exactly the fuel consumption
It's not a matter of IF but WHEN.
You are about to get hit hard
I had an Acura TL type S many years ago that once, I left in a hotel parking lot for over a month while I traveled on business. It started right away when I turned on the ignition.
It sure sounds like these Ferraris are more trouble than they are worth!!
I have a Toyota 86. Left it parked in my garage for 8 weeks while I travelled and it started straight up too.
NEVER buy a Ferrari
Fit a battery isolator switch. Easy to switch off when leaving for days. What you say is true, though. It’s ridiculous to have such an issue.
OMG, I'm keeping my Mercedes CLK 350 cabriolet. Bought it at 5 yrs old, and owned it for 8 yrs now. Never any major problems!
I hear ya! My buddy bought an 07 in 09. Seriously he has never had any problems with it. Only has about 44 k miles so obviously doesn't drive it every day. Just a fun smooth car to drive. I've tried to buy it and he won't sell it ! Lol.
Opertive ....Major!!!....Get a Lexus!
Porsche, multiple 911s turbos in the last 20 years, had never any serious issues unlike my friends who went with the Ferraris but their cars are longer at a service dealer than on the street. With my current 911 992, bought it when it had 47.000km on it, now I have 149.000 km as I am using it for work / daily driver , vacation car, basically for everything. Just servicing it and that's it.
Porsches are also boring, so it’s a trade off.
I have no desire to own one! Bought a Shelby GT 350 ❤️ never a problem.
What's great is watching the cash nightmare that keeping one of these cars alive is.
basic parts cost a fortune and the design is not service-oriented.
I've owned a 2010 California, a 2012 Cali, a 2015 Cali T, and now a 2020 Portofino. Along with them I have had two FF's (forget the years) and traded the last FF for a 2019 GTC4Lusso. Having a V8 convertible along with a V12 four seater is perfect for me and my family. I got 30,000 miles (roughly) on each before I traded it in for a new one. I loved every one of them. They all were daily drivers, summer and winter in NW Ohio, snow, salt and all. Most of the driving was local but often 150 miles one way. The problems that I have had were few, the 2010 Cali had an electrical connector in the driver's door repaired (many of the early cars had that issue). Later I had a current sensor in the top mechanism fail, new wire harness fixed under warranty. After five 30 minute sessions on the Mid-Ohio race course it needed a new set of brake pads, $3,500. The 2015 T had a radiator failure under warranty. The Cali's do need the battery tender if you plan to leave it sit for a week. The FF's and the GTC4Lusso need the tender after a couple days of sitting. The FF's did need a battery disconnect to reset things probably once a year, but that is a VERY easy job taking 4 minutes if you are slow. The GTC4Lusso did need a cruise control computer replacement when it was new, after reprograming it 4 times didn't work. The GTC4Lusso had a radiator failure, when a rock went through it. Otherwise I had no other issues! I do seem to get defective rear tires regularly as they wear out in 6,000 miles (kidding about defective, I just have too much fun with the power). And I've owned three Porsche 928's which were pretty much trouble free. I will keep the Ferraris as they are really no more trouble than the old 928's, and way more fun. I must add, the FF's and the GTC4Lusso eat batteries! The longest a battery has worked is 1.5 years. The shortest was 6 months. Great news with the GTC4Lusso is the battery failed a couple months ago. Ferrari said they would only replace it if the car had been driven over (I THINK) 5,000 miles, and it currently has around 24,000 miles, so it was repaired free. I have had 3 broken right front wheels, 7 bad rf tires in the FFs from potholes.
You didn’t mention anything about the portofino.. was that trouble free?
@@zeeshan1300 Mine was. The only thing is that you have to connect it to the battery tender.
rickledrman: Your response makes you come across as a dick. Thirty thousand is nothing sport. Some of us believe good engineering means at least a hundred thousand with none to few issues.
The Portofino a couple months ago had the left electronic display fail. The list price for the display only was $10,000.@@zeeshan1300
@@stephencurry8552 First, I go by Rick, not dick. I put 32 years in our military, and much of that I worked one or two additional part time jobs to pay for a radio control model airplane habit, and a Porsche 928 habit (I've had three and one of them I put over 150,000 miles on myself). One of those jobs, I taught myself computer programming, and it is that work that puts me in the position to update cars rather than drive them 100k miles and almost every update gets you more Horsepower. I've been extremely fortunate to be in the right place at the right time. As an example, when I ordered my first California, that was 2010, and the stock market had crashed in 2008 and anyone with extra money was certainly not throwing it away on a car so I was able to get an allocation within a week. As a final note, I've let over 250 people drive my Ferraris, how about you?
I don't get it. For most of these exotic expensive cars how can they have so much problems??? Don't make excuses for these cars. These car companies know how to make a reliable car. But it's more profitable changing parts than fixing them
They’re status symbols for rich people. The more fragile and expensive to repair they are, the better they work as status symbols. If you’re concerned about practicality, you’re not the target market. If you idolize trouble-free transportation, maybe you should put a poster of a Camry on your wall.
I dont think its more profitable for them to produce cars with issues, since reliability was a huge problem back in the 90s and sales dropped. Thats why the Italians offer an extended warranty, so they get back their customers / or gain new customers. With new cars they will give you 7 years warranty. Almost everything that breaks on the car, will be replaced by Ferrari. And those are not small numbers.
My dealership has also a pickup service, so you dont have to drive on a train (lol) for 350 miles like the dude in the video. They come and get the car, and when it is ready, they will deliver it to you. No problems so far with that. Works great.
Also: No, they are not status symbols for everyone. I just appreciate to own nice things, and driving an emotional car, preferably on alpine roads. Everytime I open my garage I look at those beautiful cars, and its quite relieving. Starting a Ferrari up is the best part. I am not a show off, nor do I drive those cars to stroll on streets to get attention.
Oh, by the way: I have had bad and good experiences with the brand. Some cars are just rubbish, some are flawless.
@@BillLaBrie oh you're a Jordan Peterson fan. I can see why you like super cars... Compensating!
Thank you so much for sharing this video . It definitely was an eye opener for me !!!
Thanks for the information if I ever do get a Ferrari Portofino I will customized make sure I can get rid of those problems you mentioned.
Pistongreg bro a Ferrari portofino wont have those problems lol his car is like 9 years old. I bet the 2015 California wont even have those problems
For me, reliability comes at the top of having pleasure to own a car, this why I am not even attracted to own a Ferrari.
agreed!
I have a solution, so what tends to go wrong with these cars are electronics engine and transmission right?
sooooo GET RID OF THEM and ls swap it or something, do the bare minuimum so it drives and is legal and also there are problems with the roof...
SO GET RID OF IT boom NO MORE PROBLEMS
Porsche 911 every time....or a Huracan,thanks to Audi input,pretty well sorted car...
@@paullacey2999 Audi ? Geez, they arent reliable at all. Grossly overrated.
Same for me: it's has already been painful enough to own high end German cars, so it would be too stressful for someone like me to own a Ferrari
Many years ago, I thought I was rich, turns out no, but I had a choice between a Ferrari and a Porsche. Hearing this type of word of mouth, I chose a Porsche GT3.
Now 16 years later and 55,000 miles, my car has had no mechanical problems whatsoever. My dealership is warm and friendly. I still have a smile every time I get out of it. I think I was very lucky.
I have a couple of cars that sit for a while I don't get to drive them much. Having a battery tender is not an option because of where they are parked. I just make it a routine to turn them on and run them for a while every 3 days and now it's just my routine. I also have a battery charger/jumper if I go on vacation so I don't have to call someone and wait for them to charge my battery. If you have a car like that you need to set up a routine and have your own battery charger.
Your Ferrari is why I have an Acura NSX.
Thanks finally someone who justs gives advice without dragging the video out
I sent this comment from Japan.I surprised because my F's color is same with you and quite rare. I think keep this one whole my life!
Now some of the manufacturers give you a charger. But 5 days is too low.
The type of person that buys a Ferrari generally doesn't care about the high costs, because they're only interested in impressing other people.
Interestingly the Maserati Granturismo of the same era also has a similar problem with battery drain. I pick my California up on Friday, thankfully I don't have the HELE system fitted. I also have the two year extended warranty and will keep that going as long as I have the car and Ferrari will let me.
Thanks for the video, it was really useful.
I believe that model Maserati has a Ferrari drivetrain so there ya go.
Must be an early model. My 2014 Cali30 HS has been great.
Concerning your battery, would go for a gel optima battery, should fix the problem. This i used in my porsche with a professional audio system. Fixed my problem.
Is the cabin drone as pronounced in person as it seems in the video? Or is that due to the position/mounting of the mic (most video's I've seen have the camera/mic mounted on the window and I didn't notice a drone)? One of the reasons I'm looking at the California is because I was under the impression that it was relatively quiet at highway cruising speeds. One road trip I like to make is about 500 miles each way, and most of it is highway driving. A cabin drone that makes normal conversation difficult with the top up would be a deal breaker for me.
Buys a Ferrari, complains about fuel consumption. WANKPUFFIN.
Did you already buy yours?
Absolute PLONKER
Why not? If I bought a Ferrari, I'd humbly expect to get 10-16 miles out of a gallon in normal road traffic (much less on a race track, obviously). Steep, but to be expected.
If it gave significantly less than that, I'd suspect a technical fault - and after paying a pretty hefty price for the car, I'd complain about that, too.
He wasn't specific about what mileage he got and what he had expected - but buying a Ferrari doesn't switch off all perception of quality and value - so no need to insult him for that.
Wouldn t that be a great problem to have.
Had a 2009 California for 4 years used as daily driver with no probs. Then a 458 speciale which i rarely used (about 6000mls in 4 years) and never had any issurs. Now i am going for gtc4lusso
1: People who purchase a Ferrari don’t worry about the cost of fuel.
2: Even if the car can fit 10 people, only 2 are ever getting in.
3: Things go wrong with every special vehicle.
4: Ever heard of a trickle charger?
1. True lol
2. If its your everyday drive, sometimes you might want friends or children to be in the car.
3. Which is why you don't want it as your everyday drive.
4. What if you are travelling, in a carpark or at a hotel and theres no power access?
Thank you so much !
Get a clamp meter on the B+ and pull fuses until the current stops, then remove the fuse when not using it. Any decent auto electrician should be able to offer you some sort of workaround for this issue, unless you have to reset things, or it causes other issues like the alarm being the actual culprit.
I will take your advice and never buy a Ferrari
Because I cant
Looks good, so much fun to drive and expensive to keep running. ...and not for every day use. Hmm, sounds like the side chic.
For the battery, consider an Antigravity LiFePo battery, with the remote re-start capability
Owning a Ferrari is like having a 10 out of 10 girlfriend who has cancer. Your forever taking her to the hospital for treatment.
thanks for the advice
exactly so much fun, i still remember it
If the battery dies after 5 days then something is draining it and from which year it is build.
If people stopped buying them,they would get their finger out and improve them......
My Aston Martin DB9 didn’t hold battery charge after 5/7 days either.
"Ferraris are complicated cars and the engine is superadvanced"...
It's a car... just your specific car is one of those with loads of faults. It happens. Not Ferrari-unique.
I've driven my Porsche for 110.000km in 4,5 years as daily driver.
The battery issue must be related to something drawing electricuty when it shouldn't when the car is off.
You need to find yourself an independent workshop who specialuzes in sportscars in general. You can't go to the dealerships workshops, they're incompetent (even the Porsche one's). You need to find the independent specialuzed workshops where the mechanics smell and talk to the cars basically. Kind of like "the sportscar whisperer".
I think your problem is the workshop.
Do you really think anyone considers the fuel costs when buying a Ferrari… it’s irreverent… not even a consideration when you spend 100k plus …everyone knows the brand is fraught with reliability issues … amazing to look at … great to drive when working .. but ultimately a bottomless money pit for the millionaires who can afford to just burn the cash in ownership … if you want an every day super car then time and again its the Porsche… German reliability… or alternatively hire your super car for the weekend have your fun and hand it back & let the hire company pick up the running costs … the other wiser amongst us get an Audi RS6 or RS7.. 😁
Fuel: We know you can afford the fuel.
More people: It's NOT meant for more than 2 people.
Fixing: Find a specialist for routine stuff like oil changes.
Battery: I agree. Try the optima gel battery.
Repairs: Buy it a few years used so the kinks have already been taken care of.
Beautiful color, is it Blu Mirabeau?
About the battery- Do you leave it on the battery tender? (Trickle charger)
Also, the F8 has an Auto-start disable button. I push it every time before I go for a drive. Gimmick to meet corporate average fuel economy, but it's just annoying and probably wears out the starter.
Edit: Oh, you couldn't charge it while traveling
I hope that Cali is not 2009-2012? The DCTs stop working and are a huge cost to replace.
Basically what you are saying, stay away from Ferrari's. Ferrari's are a piece of crap. Thank you!
Like Mclaren,totally overrated...
@@paullacey2999 Thank you!!
I had a California T, great car, never had a single issue with it. Fuel economy on the motorway is 25 to the gallon at LEAST, around town honing around, yeah, but if you can’t afford it, don’t buy one
My BMW starts right up after 4 months of not driving. Battery life of just 5 days is insane.
Nice color.
I don't get it. What would drain the battery from parking? Do you need to turn the battery off or disconnect it or some such thing?
Something in your interior is rattling.
I own a 2007 Audi A6. I never went for a technical inspection ever. I just change the oil. And add water when needed.
I never had any problems ever.
I love Ferrari but I know about these issues.
Good luck 🍀
Never had a battery failing after "5 or 7 days" on any of my F cars, and that includes both vintage and more modern cars. And everyone knows all you need is a battery tender.
Ferraris are like women. High matintenence
And just as stroppy....
I work rotational shifts with 8 weeks at work and 4 weeks off. My RS6 will start first time, every time after not being driven for 8 weeks. As far as I am aware there is only one battery. Not sure what Ferrari is doing here 🤔
They are piece of crap if you ask me, you can be sure if i pay 200k + for a car i want Lexus like reliability, that being said they are very pretty.
I had a 2008 Audi S3 in 2010 that started up after not being driven in 2 months, no problem.
You know, I think you'd be better served with a 911 Turbo. Not ridiculous on MPG, ridiculously fast, very reliable and I think you may just have a better experience at the dealerships (as long as you aren't trying to buy a Porsche GT range car). I'm about to flip over 90,000 miles on my 997 Turbo and other than fluid changes, motor mounts (which I did myself for about $250 in less than 2 hours) and a brake job, it has been trouble free. I know it isn't quite as pretty to look at as a Ferrari, but there is something to be said for the value of your time and patience. At 49 years old myself, I can tell you, you'll become less tolerant of these kinds of problems as you get older. :)
I had a new Lexus LS460 same problem. If car sat for 4 days, dead battery.
It's ridiculous that buyers accept this bs when they spend so much money on a car.
I do drive one every day, it less expensive that running an M4 or an Rs5 both on petrol and insurance. I know because I have had these cars too. The servicing is the only thing to consider and procure a good warranty or a main dealer warranty. These cars are for car lovers . Lastly, invest in a trickle charger 😊
You could put a simple kill switch on the battery just goes over the negative terminal
Good to know thanks
I drive a Ferrari 599 GTO and I never experienced such thing.
sorry to say but it sounds completely ridiculous..
That's correct! You want a Ruf, Porsche, or a McLaren for a daily driver.
How much in total did you pay for those shock absorbers you mentioned? Did you replace 4 or just 2? I'm thinking about getting 2017 used one with 20k km with HS option in this month.... going to be my first Ferrari!
Have you bought it ?
Yes, I boght it a year ago and I love it the most! More than my porsche 911 4s, bmw m5 and bmw m2.
@@johnkim1921 Glad to hear it!
Honestly, if you bought a Kia and it had that many problems, you'd be pissed.
Tell you what,the Stinger looks as good as any supercar👍
So what kills the battery? when off
Most car guys realize V12 engines use a lot of petrol, this is how they produce the power they do. You don't buy a Ferrari for good MPG or practicality.. All you do is whine and whinge. You need to sell it and get a Golf Diesel........
it's a lovely car hough ;)
still got it?
Someone recently told me: The build quality of a Ferrari is worse than the one of a FIAT.
I had a Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale for two months and got rid for an Audi because of all the issues.
If you have the money to buy a Ferrari why would gasoline be an issue? The same with service fees and maintenance schedules. I would think a Ferrrari owner would have a normal driver car and the Ferrari is for the pleasure drives. You can fix the battery issue by turning off the keyless entry function -where it is constantly searching for the key’s presence. Mercedes do the same thing.
They need to add a switch that disconnects the battery when you want to.
I'm looking at a 2010 Cali with 25k miles. How much is a fair deal?
£75-80k i think
IMO only very wealthy people daily Ferrari's. They have little interest in residuals, maintenance costs, running costs, etc.
Everyone else who can afford a Ferrari should look at it as a 2nd car only and treat it as an asset. And on this basis as similar high maintenance costs will still be incurred regardless of model I would recommend buying a well cared for older model with a desirable spec so that you will see most of your original payment back and many of the niggles from the original build may have been resolved. 360/430/550 gated manual's perhaps. Very exciting cars with incredible sound tracks.
Otherwise, as dozens are also advising, buy a 911. So reliable, very reasonable repair costs as there are so many specialists, and plenty of the models hold their value exceptionally well. Or perhaps the R8.
Some of these points aren’t any different than daily driving a Camaro SS or C7 Corvette. Lack of back seat use, battery dies if left untouched for a week, etc.
From one Ferrari man to another…I never had any of these issues on my Dodge Ram,you should get one as your daily driver
Batteries are heavy and affect performance so an extra battery is not a perfect solution for anyone who cares about that.
It is, when properly placed. So if you're traveling to France, have one spare to pick up & install before driving through the chunnel on the return trip
Suggesting to add two batteries in the Ferrari 😂
We had the 2 day battery, now the 5 days battery, why doesn't Ferrari sort their c2ap electronic earthing problem out or give them a battery isolator switch (not a charging cable) and give thier customers a 5 year battery?
how much do spend on basic maintenance? looking into used FF's
Depends how much you drive it. If you drive it enough to justify the annual Ferrari service, maintenance per year is about $2000 for the service which covers all the basic maintenance, oil change, air con gas, brake checks, electronics check etc Last year I only drove it a few times a month, so I did not bother with the annual service and my maintenance costs were $0.
@@TheGreatGoldingAdventures I think skipping oil change is a bad idea
Bullshit how 1euro per km, this means 80l per 100km, when you own 200.000 euro car you don't care about fuel
It should do better than that even in massive traffic jams or on a racetrack.
But hey, maybe his car really goes THAT wrong - and then I'd agree with his complaint.
That’s why it’s called The Italian Job, like the money heist film.
what a good sound !!!
They do not say it has 4 seats. It is called a 2+2. In Europe, those back seats even have height restrictions for the people sitting there. Also, no one is going to be surprised about the running costs. I was expecting something more in-depth. Ferrari’s also don’t really have a bad battery. This is absolutely normal for such a car. You need a trickle charger. This goes for modern Carrera’s, AMG’s and any sports or supercar. The battery is quite a bit bigger in the proper Ferrari GT’s, so a week should be no problem in an F12 or 599.
Nothing wrong with my Fiesta van , sport model ,I'll have you know. It will keep up with any Ferrari , there are so many cameras around here.
Hello, my name is Enzo. I appreciate the honest criticism. Just notifying you that will be receiving your obligatory cease and desist order immediately. Thank you for being a customer.
I live in Texas, USA so petrol is pretty cheap. I would be happy to daily a Ferrari.
I have the same Ferrari and I changed the battery, I left 2 weeks and it started right up, and no I dont have stop start
Exactly. If I buy another I will absolutely make sure there's no stop start! Ridiculous system! I don't even use the stop start system either!! XD
After that glowing review why would you ever buy another one?
We have a Ferrari dealership in Wilsonville Oregon just a couple blocks down the road from hs2 Oregon where you can take a drive test and driving classes
Ferrari owners typically have multiple cars. A very modern Ferrari cannot sit for 5 days without dying is just horrible.
I run an SLK AMG. I use it 4 months a year, turns on a key.... never an issue. Had multiple years... why do the Germans just get it right.
You mean Japanese
i have a carolla it turns on everytime, the japanese even get it righter lol
Buying a 100k car I wouldn't worry about gas. LOL.
I live in the US and we pay way less for gas then the UK does around 43% less
you have no idea what it is like to be able to afford a $100K car so your posting is irrelevant, easy to take shots at something you know zero about
Did you call breakdown to just start the battery…?!