Chinese Knock Offs - HDMI Mega Drive - HD Retro Game
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Recently At@Games announced their Mega Drive mini and as expected it's awful. Games have frame rate issues, real cartridges need to load plus compatibility is bad and there's no support nor ever will be for flash cartridges.
Have the Chinese finally been able to give us something with while with the HD Retro Game? Well, they almost got there. But what is important is that it's better than the At@Games machine.
Link to buy this machine on line. - www.aliexpress.com/item/2017-...
Currently sells (as of 6th August 2017) for 5800 yen plus shipping via EMS which was 2000 yen. Use XE.com to convert yen to your currency. - Ігри
When Chinese knock-offs are better than AtGames.
1:30 - Impressed a clone's packaging has decent English for once.
Yes, so was I and not only decent English but also very good advice.
Retro Core Certainly important to plenty I know who watch anything full frame that way.
Christopher Sobieniak IMPURESSUVIRRUUU!
That English on the package! Not only was some effort put into producing that machine, but also into making the package informations understandable. Surely one of better (or at least most promising) knockoffs you reviewed.
And a great work on your part, as always.
Thanks, The World.
Yes, I was surprised by the quality of the English and the actual advice given. All good quality advice.
The English on the box is...not butchered. Dafuq? It's a world gone MAD! And for under $50. Not bad!
Good English and good advice.
Retro Core I am stunned.
Well it's slightly wonky English, like a missing coma here, weird sentence structure there. On the level that could conceivably be produced by a native English speaker, but certainly not by a professional technical writer.
It's really worth mentioning the last point of the back of the box, that says that the game save file isn't stored in the console (like in newer systems) but instead it's stored in the cartridge itself... and if the game doesn't save you have to check if a store offers a battery replacement service.
Pretty awesome advice, being a chinese knockoff!
I was laughing when I read that as I'm sure many new people to 16 bit gaming wouldn't understand the concept of battery back up games. Great advice all-round on that box.
Thank you so much for making this video! it was great seeing how this thing works.
I need this in the U.S. AT GAMES needs to go out of business
I agree 100%
So True!
may i add hyperkin ? each of their product looks like crap
The Hyperkin USB 6-Button Megadrive pad is good tho IMO, I used mine to play Sonic Mania.
Mark, I didn't even know about Outrun 2019 until I saw this video. I love the original, so I just got my copy of Outrun 2019 yesterday. So, thanks!
Funny thing is I didn't know about it either. I have a cartridge of the beta version when it was originally Junkers High. I was very surprised to find out it was released as an out run game.
@@RetroCore It's a fun game!
A knockoff better than a licensed product! Who would have thought about it? Certainly not ATGames.
AtGames are a joke. Sega should revoke their license to produce Mega Drive clones as they are really giving Sega a bad name.
Great review. Nice ROM Pack you have on the EverDrive too! :D
Thanks!
Does the headphone jack output stereo audio? I know those model one Genesis would only output stereo from there, so this could be a similar thing. Great video, love your stuff!
Unfortunately not. This machine only outputs mono from every option.
I actually bought this from your link and it's actually better than I had hoped, The only thing I've noticed in the negative is in the second level of Ranger X the transparent beams of light are missing, but apart from that it's my most played console now. Oh and the pads are a bit clacky, promised I wouldn't use them, I use them all the time now :).
Hey, glad you liked the recommendation. Too bad about the small issue with Ranger X though.
Nice review. I have the Atgames one from last year and I love it. Everything looks great and sounds great🍺🍺
Another great video, keep up the good work, greetings from FL USA
bart dunbar I'm also in Florida... I'm on the toilet
also in FL
this is how a review should be,to me this is a perfect review.
and a really good clone,good work!
way better than at games,especially with a everdrive or a 112 in 1 cartridge,so yes thx!
Thanks bart dunbar and thanks for watching.
Thank you Tailslol
Leaves plenty to be desired, but an impressive knock-off anyway. It it just got the HDMI timing right and didn't mix the sound output down to mono, it would be a clear winner. If it somehow ran Virtua Racing and interlocked Sonic & Knuckes (not demoed, but these clones usually fail on that) and had a working Sega CD port, we'd have the Sega fan's dreams coming true. Thanks for the nice video, cheers from Brazil.
thanks for watching Vinicius. I hear that this clone is better than the recent Tech Toy Mega Drive. I've not actually seen the Tech Toy Mega Drive though so I'm not sure how true those claims are.
I will mark this video so i get that console later, it seems quite good!
Thanks for sharing this! I cannot help but wonder if the case lid could be used to replace really scratched up original Megadrive cases - there are some aweful ones out there. I might buy one of these to see what hacking could be done - I am also wondering if the controller receiver part on the PCB (assuming seperate IC) could have its PCB section removed from the board and wired up to a proper Megadrive in order to re-use the wireless controllers in a real Megadrive embedded within that new case. The case does look like an exact repro of the original with regards to the screws, buttons, slot, controller ports etc. Very interesting!
Te case is mostly likely interchangeable with a real Mega drive case. I've not tried it but everything does seem to be in the right place.
The controller circuitry is indeed separate so it could be used in something else.
Digging that Midnight Resistance music track.
Have you tried the front audio port to see if stereo sound comes thru it.
Yep, sadly it's also in mono.
LoL so in the end this console only use mono not stereo
it seems to do a shoddy job at mixing stereo down to mono
Retro Core hi so is the sound mono over HDMI as well ?
jamesccart Yes.
so the sound through hdmi sounds just like through composite right? just hoping its just a conflict with the capture card
Sadly the sound through HDMI even on the TV is in mono. The audio through the headphone jack is also in mono. Such a shame.
Hello. Does the power base converter with it with a real sms game? Maybe it output stereo sound via de head-phone jack, can you check that? Thank you.
I don't have a power Base converter but since the ever drive works I think a power Base converter should also work.
Sadly even the headphones port is in mono.
A very informative video.
Well done
Glen
Glen's Retro Show
Thanks for watching, Glen. Much appreciated.
Retro Core well deserving a watch and sub
It looks good, sounds good and the manual is not in Portuguese or Spanish xD ,an interesting purchase!!!!
Who needs a SPC700, when with a Yamaha YM2612 you can make a theme like Sortie of Gauntlet 4, I love the Megadrive..........and de Snes too,do not anger them xD
Another great video Mark,thanks!!!!!!
A greeting!!!!!!!!!
+GameTrotter haha, yep, I'm so glad there was no Spanish or Portuguese this time round.
Does the headphone jack output properly separated stereo sound?
Ah, I see that it does not. Bummer.
Yeah, sadly not.
Nice video man. Congratulations.
There is SNES hdmi clone from Retroad. Hope you can grab one of those and review it.
Thanks for the heads up on the SNES hdmi clone. I wasn't aware of that. I'll have to see if I can track on down for a review.
Thanks for the video, Maybe I will order one for my collection :D Love to play Sonic 3 & Knuckles on HDMI :D
Great review! Looks pretty good. It would have been interesting to see what components are used etc, too bad you didn't open it up.
Sorry man. Need to sell this item on once the video is made.
I do have to admit Mark, it does look like a well built unit. The controllers look sturdy as well. I might put this on my want list seeing I was pretty impressed on what it could do.
Well done as always Mark. Thank you.
Anthony..
I was interested in seeing if this would be compatible with a 32x. I understand it's lacking the traditional plug so the original 9pin to 9pin wouldn't work, but would you be able to use a RCA to 9pin cable to attach this to a 32x and seeing if it would work?
I'm disappointed in it not having the end connector for the Sega/Mega CD. But I feel it's overall a very impressive product.
There's no way this would work with a 32x I'm afraid.
Thx Yakumo for reviewing - thats the piece of hardware I was waiting for to have a best possible original MD experience on my HDTV. My original MD looks crap with composit on my HDTV ... so I love the soluton ... good bye emulators ;) I already ordered a machine and cant wait to have it!1 Yes mono is not perfect, but the rest is stunning. But I think they don't will ship it to me with a Pal compatible powerunit ... so I think I will need an adapter ... but wait an see what power unit will be in. Cheers
The supplied PSU is 100 to 240 volts so all you'll need is a plug adapter :)
O.k., thats the easy way :)
Great video thanks for the review!
Did you give 32x games a shot on it?
I'm afraid the 32x will not work on this machine.
Which games has the cart the was bundle in the package?
I'm curious if the headphone jack is in stereo?
It's also in mono I'm afraid.
I know you're legit cuz you picked some of the best Mega Drive tunes to demo.
Bummer about the muxed audio. Did you try the front headphone port for possible stereo?
Yeah, most so called knowledgeable channels would probably just choose Sonic or some crap like Desert strike to demo the audio.
Sadly the headphone jack also outputs in mono.
So true man! I mean...Vapor Trail..that one is bad ass! Also using Thunder Force IV for the sound test.... That's class right there! Good job on the video man!
In general, I find Hellfire to be another good game to use to test the sound. It seems like most GOAC clones (maybe all?) run Hellfire's music at half-speed, like a Model 2 Genesis would.
I would try Sonic and Raiden Trad for the synchronization and individual channel quality, and perhaps show the Password Screen soundtrack from Mean Bean Machine for overall quality of the FM channel.
The PXP3 uses the same processor as the AtGames device, but its audio isn't mushy at all; it's just mono, missing parts of the FM, and pitched down incorrectly (not fixable by cartridge or SD card). Otherwise its bass kicks butt and it has excellent percussion. On a PXP3, enter the Mean Bean Machine game and choose "continue". Listen to the music on that screen. Fantastic, compared to its horrible counterpart on the AtGames devices.
Du you have any experience with PAL region games on this one? Can you tell if a lot of them won't run?
It will run PAL games that are not region locked. So basically anything that didn't come in the blue box style cases. It may not play Konami or Capcom PAL games though as they were two of the first to implement the region protection.
Thanks for the quick response. I just needed to know if most of my games would be useless with that clone, but now after checking them with what you said I have only 10 or so that would be affected. The only one I'm really sad it won't run, is Pitfall. ...aaaand maybe Disney's Aladdin.
Was there any option for scanlines on the system, or did you run it trough the Framemeister?
No option I'm afraid. I am running this through the Framemeister but I had the scanlines switched off to give a more true image.
What game is that Vapor Trail song from by the way?
Hehe, it's from Vapor Trail :) in Japan it was called Kuuga - Operation Code Vapor Trail
As always you are bringing us interesting stuff. ..thank you !
+zombee38 thanks man. Glad you liked the show.
Not bad. I put it on my alien press wish list. Hoping for a black Friday steal on it
So the HDMI out on it is ok? Got a bunch of normal ones but the HDMI and wireless tempts me
The HDMI works on the TV just fine however it's got a strange timing to it which capture cards don't like.
Where is the background music from? It sounds like 'Midnight Resistance'...
It tells you at the end of the video.
An excellent review of a surprisingly good article!
Thank you, Javier Bosch. I was so surprised that this is actually of good quality.
I may have missed this but did you check if the headphone jack was stereo or dule mono?
Yep, everything on this system outputs in mono. the Headphone jack, HDMI and the Left and Right phono jacks at the back.
thats a shame, i wonder if they are aware there is a market for the perfect HDMI SEGA. I bet this thing would be a hit in Brazil. If it was compatible with the SEGA CD add-ons it would be a dream
i just found it online but theres a ton of it, they say it has built in games inside, do your megadrive have built in games too?
No, mine has no built in games. You see, in Chinese they rip off other rip offs! So, mind was an original clone but now there are many cloning that clone. Quite often when this happens the quality really drops.
Apparently it doesn't play region protected PAL games. Can you please confirm?
It seems there are some it will not play from some reports I've read recently and mails I've received. This is a bummer for those with PAL Konami and Capcom games from later in the Mega Drives life.
Okay sp as far as the hdmi, I'm very confused. It looked and sounded bad when you demoed it with sonic, but thunderforce 4 looked and sounded good (outside of the mono sound) so what was up with sonic? I'm just confused.
Really? Sonic sounded normal to me unless you're talking about the stuttering audio section. That section was a HDMI feed. This machine doesn't like my capture device which is what caused the stuttering. All the footage shown apart from when I was pointing the camera at the TV and the stuttering sonic footage was via composite.
I'm guessing..... No well, I'm 100% sure this is the system you told me about in your last reply to me.
Looks interesting! I am impressed on how well it seems to play mega drive/Genesis games!
Honestly, I think they should have included an SD card slot as well, it would skip the need of having a EverDrive.
Like I think they should have slapped an SD card reader or USB port under the expansion slot cover! (Since nothing else is there)
I'll maybe wish list this system, but if I find a little extra jingle jangle in my pocket, I think an EverDrive would be better money spent! (Since I don't have one yet)
Besides I still got my old Genesis hooked to a old tube TV I kept, nothing will beat the picture from an actual tube tv anyways for these classic systems!
But, this system does have my attention!
If you do go for this system make sure it's the later revision as that does have real stereo sound via the HDMI and headphone jack unlike this one which is completely mono.
So does the HDMI work properly and it just didn't capture right, or does it have dodgy timing and audio on your TV as well? That is super important to know, you may want to clarify that in your video. Thanks!
Nope, as mentioned in the video the HDMI works perfectly on the TV. Capture devices normally expect perfect timing unlike a TV which is why it had issues.
Can it play the US version of Genesis games on it I know it plays Euro and Asia but will it be able to fit a actual us Genesis or North American cartridge
American Genesis cartridges are the exact same shape as PAL European games. Only the Japanese have a unique shape. Any type of cartridge will fit in to here no problem. All US games bar virtual Racing should work just fine.
when trying the virtual racing you did not change the setting to J from the o??
It was set to J for Japan.
I suppose conflics between Japanese games on a Chinese console are to be expected..ha ha
What a surprise! No lag, dang!
Wow looks good... Does the HDMI support Stereo or does the system simply not have stereo at all.
No, no Stereo from any port including the headphone jack.
Oh my god ! Buster's Hidden Treasure ! This game is my childhood, with Sonic 2 and Castle of Illusion :')
I never had this game as a teenager but I did play the hell out of Castle of Illusion and Sonic. Both classics. I've been playing a bit of Tinny Too since recently and really getting in to it.
Funny thing is. I used to play my Sega Genesis in mono back in 1990.
I seem to remember it having only one RCA audio connector in the back. I had to use a 3.5 mm headphone jack to stereo RCA cable plugged into the headphone jack in the front to get stereo out to my Mom's TV.
The real Mega Drive / Genesis had no composite or auto out on the back. You're probably thinking of the RF socket.
Thanks for confirming that the HDMI worked ok to the TV but not the capture card.
No worries
I know I'm late but dose this come with games built in?
Nope, no built in games. That's why it came with the 16 in 1 multi cartridge.
Best review of this machine. Thanks. You convinced me to get it.
Thanks for watching.
Fantastic review, you basically covered every little thing :) I'm surely wanting to buy this, but I just ordered a Sega Pocketgame device and it ate up about the same money this thing will...so I'm going to wait a while before making this next big purchase!
...Never mind, I just caved and bought it. My money's steadily increasing these days and I know I can go a bit crazy XD
Fingers crossed that your Sega device is a good one. The Mega Drive knock offs are quite often awful although there are a few good ones out there.
Thanks Retro :) you make it fun to learn about these things. With my adapter I can even play this HD thing on my CRT computer monitor. Although I did see another video about this device claiming its HDMI wasn't bad the way the one in this video is, so I'm gonna hope I get one of the good ones!
Not sure why some people would roll their eyes at composite being included with this one. It's a great fallback, especially how you showed it worked well when HDMI didn't, and it's just like TVs nowadays having composite legacy ports. Though that has pretty much been phased out already...RIP
It's great!!! I can't believe how fast I got it. Just one week!
Yeps:
1. It included the 18-in-1 cart, which is always a good time. Though that's a Japanese cart, not fitting into my real Genesis...but who needs to use that when I've got the Retroad HD Genesis, eh?!
2. The wireless controllers are cheap and light of course, we know that, but they work flawlessly! Once I got a screwdriver and got the back off, two AAAs later and it's a great experience. The D-pad feels even better on these than on a real Genesis controller; it rolls more smoothly. The P2 controller is fine too; me and my friend David can race along those Sonic 2 VS tracks once more :)
3. Even though the edge connectors grip hard, and you have to insert AND remove a game carefully, I adjusted to doing it so there's no problem. I can confidently insert and remove any game without fear. It might as well not even be an existing issue.
4. The sound is pretty good. The PSG channel plays a bit louder than it should, but not alarmingly, and my TV's equalizer easily fixed the "flat" sound of the audio.
Nopes:
5. The headphone jack outputs modest volume at best for external speakers; for headphones it's loud enough, but only just, at top volume. When I used a 3.5mm to RCA audio port for the TV to see if it would slightly enhance the sound, I had to turn my TV up to max volume and could barely hear anything still. This was with the headphone jack volume slider at the top too.
6. The HDMI, while certainly better than composite, is only somewhat better for my TV. It might just be the TV itself, but the quality isn't as crystal clear as I'd hoped. It doesn't help that, while on HDMI, my TV can't go to 4:3 mode. But now I'm using the composite ports on my EDTV, and it's even better there (like with the audio as well) and the video is impressive considering composite cables.
7. The RCA jacks are pulled into the unit, not sticking out; this is an advantage for storage sometimes, but it prevents me from using most composite cables. Only the kinds that have those little "fins" sticking out very far can be used. Good thing a nice long set of these was included.
Bonus:
I didn't know there were over 40 built-in games on this darn thing!!! I don't even need my Sonic Classics cart to play Sonic The Hedgehog 2 with David XD
these knockoffs are endlessly fascinating
Are the top cases of the knockoff and the mega drive interchangeable? lol I'm curious.
They should be. The molds seem identical.
looks solid.. is there any controller alternatives on it? since it's rubber tend to breaks easily..
You can use official Sega controllers with it and probably 3rd party ones too. I've only check the official counters though.
maybe some other wireless 3rd party controller that also run on 2.4G? old official sega controller might has aged, and the knockoff sega controller mostly are bad quality built
Thanks for the video, great, could you tell me if Everdrive X7 works?
I know the Everdrive X5 works because I own that one so I guess the X7 should also work.
@@RetroCore I heard that the X7 does not work, but I'm not sure, thanks for the attention.
this is how a review should be,to me this is a perfect review.
and a really good clone,good work!
way better than at games,especially with a everdrive or a 112 in 1 cartridge,so yes thx!
Thank you very much, Tailslol. Glad you enjoyed the review.
AWESOME BACKGROUND MUSIC @RETRO CORE ! MIDNIGHT RESISTANCE !
what's the game sounding while Tiny Toons gameplay (before the Alisia Dragoon one)?
Does anyone know if this clone works with the Everdrive MD? I know it works with the Mega Everdrive, but I haven't seen anything with the Everdrive MD.
Yes, it should do as they are basically the same thing.
Hey Mark,
Is it possible that you have the cables wrong on it?
I noticed that it's different than the usual RCA A/V setup, which is Yellow for video, and Red (r), White (L) audio.
On the box here it shows Red is VIDEO, and White and Yellow are audio and I know many TV's will only display mono sound in both channels if only one active audio channel is present. Just a thought.
Also, does HDMI output stereo sound? How about the headphone Jack? Maybe it's purposely emulating the original Model 1, which of course was mono only through the rear jack, and stereo through the headphone jack. I used to always use a Y-audio adapter to get stereo.
I'm afraid the system is mono no matter how it's set up. HDMI audio is mono ans is the headphone jack. Such a shame. I didn't notice until editing since I had the sound going through my 5.1 system during the video capture section which was set to "LIVE" audio which gave everything a fake stereo effect. I'm not sure why it was set to that. Probably my son had been messing around with it again.
A Y adapter doesn't give stereo sound though. It just outputs the mono audio to both left and right channels.
Did you try the headphone jack? That was the original way to get stereo. Also wonderful review, I wouldn't mind getting this.
Could you perhaps use Master system converter and 32x?
Mono sound form all ports including the headphone jack.
32x wish not compatable at all.
Great console.Do you know if the everdrive cartridge will work in a Sega Genesis model 2, not MD,just regular Genesis model 2.Thanks, Great video.Gio.
Yep, it will work fine on an official Mega Drive 2.
Its not a mega drive,its a regular Sega Genesis model 2😃😃
No problem either way 😊
That's so true, real retro gaming is in 4:3! nice machine actually, not a bad at all. Great vid man!
4:3 all the way for retro gaming. I have no idea why anyone would want to play games designed for 4:3 in 16:9.
Great vid! Hmmm, I can't tell how many "bits" this console is. If only there was some kind of visual cue that conveyed the "bits" that were possessed by said machine had I could rest easy.
I was always wondering why the 16 Bit logo on the PAL machines was so small.
Me too. You know, I'll bet it's covered up by that giant logo on the front...super annoying, isn't it?!
This looks a decent system.
Does it output stereo through headphone jack?
Nope, mono all the way.
I think the sound is a little bit more "tinny" than my original MD1. But I'm also very impressed how good this sounds, mono aside.
It did seem like the hdmi image was a bit softened. Would much rather have preferred razor sharp pixels, and possibly an option for scanlines.
Do you plan to do a video on the atgames machine at some point too? ;)
Personally I find that much more interesting because it's officially licensed. I would never buy one though given that it sucks. No surprises there.
I was actually pretty impressed by the NES mini (well, after you fix the aspect and scanlines with a hack), the emulation is solid and the build quality is great.
Sega really deserves a proper mini console done right :(
I'm afraid I wont be touching the AtGames system because they are ruining the Sega bran officially. These clones are also not helping the Mega drive brand but at least everyone knows they're not official. What's sad is this runs games better than the new AtGames system which is official.
You're right. The best cause of action is to not support crap like atgames, and if no one buys them Sega will hopefully license the console to a more competent company some day.
does this display perfect pixels on a CRT tv ?
no idea. I don't own a CRT :(
I am seriously considering getting this as a bedroom console as it does look rather good value, it's a shame about the sound being mono but apart from that it looks great.
That's awesome, since it looks identical to the original Sega Genesis / Mega Drive, I hope the original Power Base Converter will work with this.
+Voan Siam hmm, it may do since the EverDrive does however I don't have one that I could try.
Love the Devlish Music in the background.
Devilish has some really nice tracks on it.
Can you get the top of that knock off to fit on an old system?
I've not tried it but I would say it should fit,. The case seems to be a 100% replica of the original.
I wonder, have you tested the headphone output too? Usually this one should be stereo out. It was on the original and was for many the only way to get stereo sound out of it when the own TV set was only Mono. Heck, my first TV was mono too and when I hooked my headphones to the Mega Drive and played some of my games it blew me away how much better it was in stereo.
Yep, every output is mono, phonos/av, HDMI and the headphone jack. Seems that the system chip is wired up for mono only.
Aww too bad. Well i think it's easy to assume that sooner or later a revision will pop up that will have eliminated that minor flaw. Heck, at this point it is better than nothing. So i give them that.
I hope so. When it does ill be sure to try it out.
Fun fact... I was waiting for the update to the MegaSG to play Paprium without glitches and I tried it on one of these and it worked great!
Nice 👍
Well i guess the original MD didnt give stereo sound out via the video output only via the headphone jack, so in that regard its emulating the MD perfectly ;-). Mark did you try the HDMI or headphone sockets to see if they outputted stereo sound??
Yep, HDMI was used when playing directly on the TV but that was also in mono and so was the headphone jack unfortunately.
damn thats a shame, would of been almost perfect itf it had stereo audio, wonder if it could be fixed via software update. Where did you get it from anyways?
If you connect the 32x will it burst into flames?
Hahaha, quite possibly.
What's is funny with this kind of system is that the hdmi output need some computing power for conversion who is more powerful them the mega drive.
Hi. This console is 50 or 60hz ? thanks
It's 60hz.
Please do always be aware of your own sound quality, which has enough grains to feed a horse. So by the time sound goes from your mouth and to our ears/headphones, it's changed analogue and digital a few times (your voice needs a reduction in overall gain levels or noise compression or sound gate/limiter for those like myself watching on iPhone, which is another change.
Shinobi III and SoR 2 seem slightly off key or is it just my head playing tricks on me?
wrong instruments on Gauntlets IV? Maybe my memory is at fault at it
The sound is slightly off but I think if someone has not played the originals they'd never notice. I don't think the sound is off key though just different volumes uses for some channels which emphasise sections of the music that shouldn't be.
Did you try the headphone jack? see if that runs in stereo, unlikely but worth trying. I see a review on this clone system a week ago and they said that they liked it..
+Video/Computer Games-Played-today yes, that's also in mono I'm afraid.
The main chip is almost certainly a TCT-6803, which is a GOAC (proper ASIC clone) AFAIK.
The same chip is used in some of the recent handhelds with a direct LCD output, and these signals are apparently being fed to the HDMI chip.
So, it could be using a true digital video connection from the main chip (finally), and it's great to hear that the audio is decent too.
(EDIT: On second thoughts, it may still be a analog video coming from the main chip, as it does look quite blurry via HDMI?)
I expect the compatibility will be quite high, as it won't be using crappy software emulation.
Big shame about the mono audio though.
I'll have to buy one soon, and see if it can be modded for stereo via HDMI.
Does the headphones socket output in stereo btw?
If not, then it's likely that the GOAC itself only outputs in mono, as it was intended for the handhelds.
EDIT: Just saw your other comment about the headphones output also being in mono. That's a shame.
(I see you got bombarded with that same question actually. lol.)
The stuttering via HDMI via the capture card is likely the use of a slightly non-standard audio sample rate in the console.
That may actually be fixable, assuming it's using a separate ADC to sample the analog audio from the GOAC.
+ElectronAsh haha, yeah, everyone asked about the headphone jack. Makes me wish I had mentioned it on the video :p
I think the chip only outputs mono but I'd like to be wrong.
Retro Core
Yep, I believe so too - I'm fairly sure the chip was really intended for the handhelds, so they scrimped on adding the outputs / DACs for stereo.
I'm about to reply to Mr Ace above though, as he's an expert on the clone chips. hehe
The PSG sounds a little off but overall it sounds and looks pretty good.
I agree. The PSG seems to have volume issues.
Thank you so much! Great video!
No problem. I only bought this as I was sure many people would be interested in it.
Is it possible that this shell will accommodate the original motherboard? Maybe with some slight modification. I'm more excited to get this than the snes mini (which I'm not.. Disappointing release) would be fantastic to get a shiny new shell or two if the board fits.
Yep, the original MD board will fit in to this case no problem. It's a perfect copy of the original.
Retro Core that's awesome to hear! Thanks for the info :D Although I'm excited for the functionality this has, a second one couldn't hurt for just a shell replacement. Even at the price its worth it, considering an exact shell hasn't been made like this to my knowledge and it's been almost 30 years since it's release.(which is crazy to think about) Now the task of possibly replicating the Sega logo on the bottom right correctly.. Hmmm
I would love to have a proper megadrive mini from Sega some day.
Thanks for a great video as always 😊👍
Maybe one day they'll do it.
Nolasco They need to release a new cart based system. Yeah I know, no way as cheap as a DVD press but something with higher specs to support better sound / color palette and larger games. Backqards compatible aswell of course. I'd be in the queue for midnight release for that machine. A lot of indie games are retro-styled these days so why not.
Rediscovering Retro that would be great but unfortunately I don't see that happening, the best we can hope for is a build in games console from Sega in the same way of the Nintendo mini altho I have a feeling that all the fake/rip-off systems have damage the brand really bad but I think that if anyone can fix it it's Sega
It's interesting, where did you buy it? ;)
I purchased a Megadrive in 1998 from Target for 14 bucks. It had fallen behind the display case where it sat for 7 years next to a Menacer light gun. When the case was dismantled they were discovered and no one wanted it because PS One was the king of the year. I got to purchase it and the Menacer for 90% off. Still have it. Still works
Wow, I can just imagine how dusty that must have been after 7 years behind the cabinet.
Hell yeah. You couldn't read the box. Leaky roof water and mice droppings messed up one side. Contents were in perfect shape though. Found a few games too. I made out like a bandit. I worked in Assets Protection and stuff got misplaced all the time. Every month we sweep the store for hidden merchandise. I would find clearance merch like games and electronics all the time.
Good to hear the contents was still in good shape.
Where can you get this from?
Read the discription please.
I wouldn't mind getting one of these to be honest. It's a good alternative to the Mega SG or the Megadrive/Genesis Mini. Unfortunately i noticed in many videos that the audio sounds incorrect sometimes, and i'm not talking about the Mono thing. The PSG audio sounds way too loud, and you can definitely hear it if you play Streets of Rage 2 or any game that uses the PSG audio at all.
There is an updated version that has stereo sound and fixes the PSG, apparently.
@@RetroCore really? can you link it?
Much much better than the latest Brazilian tec toy mega drive clone , which is in fact a at games disguised
Yeah, I don't understand why TechToy didn't offer HDMI out with that machine.
Even though audio is slightly off it's still really good compared to other clones. It uses a genesis on a chip design with a scaler board at too. Retrorgb speculates on his channel that it's upscaling composite video but I can't really tell without looking in person. At Games Gen/Mega HD uses emulation which is always a bad idea. Too bad it's mono but guess you can't win them all.
I can confirm that the HDMI is indeed just the composite video signal being upscale to 720p. It looks a little soft and has strange timing which is why my capture device was not liking the video signal as it requires a correct timing signal to run. The TV didn't seem to mind though.
I buy this machine but I'cant conect a wireless gamepad, I turn on the machine and press select for the gamepad, but don't work. Can you explain how to conect a wireless gamepad the first time. Thanks
I wish I could help but mine just worked as they should. Maybe yours are faulty?
A shame about the mono and lack of RGB. If they could crack that (and perhaps improve that build quality a "little bit!") I'd be quite a happy chap. Who knows, one day maybe? I might go for it though just for the 60hz.
Yeah, the mono audio is the only real let down.
Ordered one based on the review. Will report back once I've played it!
As long as you don't mind the mono sound I think you'll be very happy with the purchase.
What games are you trying? It possible they're really awkward ones such as a Capcom or Konami release. Standard Sega games should be fine. For the first 4 years of the Mega Drive's life all games were region free.
Retro Core it was eternal champions. I got an ever drive in the mean time so I could at least use it. it refuses to play some of these roms too. anyway it's great for what it is and my 2 lads are now getting to play some great retro games. thanks again
The switch is for Japan 60hz and Overseas 60hz. There is no setting for Overseas 50hz (which is what PAL region-locked games use), so that's why they don't work. There might be a way to mod it for 50hz.