M1 Mac Mini vs Intel - Is Intel ACTUALLY Better?
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0:00 - Intro
4:29 - Boot Time
4:46 - Sleep Wake
5:20 - Geekbench 5
6:20 - Cinebench
6:44 - Clocks & Temps
7:42 - Photo Editing
8:52 - App Launch
9:34 - Disk Speed
10:13 - Video Editing
11:40 - H.265 Conversion
12:48 - Timeline Performance
13:31 - 8K Playback
13:50 - Gaming
15:49 - GPU - On Screen
15:16 - GPU - Off Screen
17:07 - Conclusion
16:47 - Ending
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The Intel Mac Mini managed to outperform the M1 Mac Mini in a lot of cases! Would you still pick the M1 model, or would you go with Intel, because of eGPU, Windows support & more?
Does it outperform in the price benchmark? No..... no it does not
@@dvxAznxvb lol
m1 because longer life
How come when maxxtech did this comparison the m1 won in most cases and even outperformed iMacs in most cases or was on par
@@Leo-ph5dk Hmm
I still stick with Intel (sound engineer here) and never regretted it. So many extremely valuable apps and plugins are at service, I can have windows and I even played RDR2 on Ultra. Maybe I’m sticking to some old things dunno.. but I love it.
Man I was feelin kinda down today but watching ur vids always helps me relax
Evening Dan 🙂
It always amazes me how much they can improve tech year on year, this is all beyond me of course, but I still found it interesting to watch, thanks Dan! xx 💕
$700 vs $1999 I would take M1 anyway. Because it’s cheaper and also faster too.
My M1 has too many bugs to use from the moment I turned it on it has been NOTHING but issues. $1400.00 in the TRASH
@@bunsmom no it doesn’t
@@bunsmom Lol, sure.
@@bunsmom yeah...
M1 for my primary apps of Lightroom, Photoshop and Final Cut Pro. When Adobe comes out with optimized versions early next year, the speed differences M1 vs Intel will be even greater.
8:00 could also be the ssd capacity, as higher capacity ssd's often come with better read/write performance and have more iops that could help with random writes.
Great video. Great tests. Nicely done!
Best review on these two I’ve seen online so far! I will be getting the M1 with an upgrade:
1. 3.2GHz 8-Core CPU
2. 8-Core GPU
3. 16GB Unified Memory (+180)
4. 1TB SSD Storage (+180)
5. 10 Gigabit Ethernet (+90)
6. Pro Apps Bundles (+200)
Total: $1,500 plus tax
Will be using my setup to create and edit videos for my online platforms and my online businesses!
Thanks for explaining. Great video!
Very very VERY good analysis. In the conclusion, you just missed one reason to use the intel macmini : the possibility to run natively windows apps on windows 10 with bootcamp. I am a developer and I use 2 intel macminis with windows server installed on them. The best dev machines ever consuming 15W in idle mode. SUBSCRIBED !!!
Informative video ,thank you man!
I'm wondering why the M1 Mini was crippled with only 8gigs of ram vs the Intel with 32gb ram? Faster and larger storage and running an external GPU really doesn't seem like a reasonable comparison. Unlike others, I'd say this comparison is pretty lopsided - an unfair comparison at best.
That shows you the M1 Mac mini is a beast. It’s also off the shelf model if you want more ram it’s like a 9 day delivery. I ordered the 16gb ram with 256ssd came from HK.
That timeline seemed seemed artificially heavy and unlikely that most would have 5 videos at once. You likely were running into memory issues and the light room example was also contrived as you were running the Intel version. The fact that the arm mac was only a few seconds slower batch processing all of those photos is astounding because it was running emulated code.
While I was wating for my Mac Mini (Intel) order, the M1 came out and I really considered to cancel the order and buy the M1. But I'm a music producer and I work with a lot of 3rd party plugins that aren't ready now and my main DAW (Cubase) is also not ready for the M1. I also wanted 32 GB of RAM, so I went with the Intel. But working on a big project with lots of plugins and tracks, the Mac Mini is really loud and it is getting hot. That problem I'd dont had with the M1 I think.
If the "Pro" version really comes out, I maybe sell the Intel and buy a M1 (or M2? ;))
I use my mac mini 2018 for virtual machines. IA virtualbox. Apparently VB won't be updated for the M1. So consider your use case
Very well done video!
This is insane. I’m so glad I went for the 16GB Mac mini. I was so close to buying a used 2018 Mac mini or iMac so I didn’t have to wait for shipping.
Hey man thanks for comment do you recommend to buy Mac mini m1 2020 16gb or 2018 32gb. I am graphic designer
@@marekstepanek1214 I would recommend the M1.
@@SamAdamsDesigns thanks man!
I just got my 1st Mac, it’s a m1 mini 16GB and a terabyte. I can’t wait for the softwares to make native versions. It would be interesting to see what would it do to comparison tests from today. Anyway I bought it for the ecosystem and longevity more than, crazy intensive apps. iMovie, garage band, rawtherapy , and maybe some games. Loving the big sur experience, especially IOS apps Dominos pizza app right on my rig it’s tiny and quiet I also got the USB C dock that cradles right under it, it hooks to my 4 TB NAS like a champ with no sign in after a couple short tutorials😍😍
Super happy so far, it’s like a giant 57” iPad with desktop capabilities 😜😜!!!
You sound like a freakin commercial ... professional consumer 😂
Thank you this video was very helpful 😊
We have an in-house Swift-based API that solves for structural spans, and makes heavy use of Apple’s Grand Central Dispatch code library to keep all available cores saturated. Needless to say, this is a compute-heavy API. My initial testing was a request package of 250 spans on a 6-core i7 2018 mini, vs a base model M1. Both systems were configured as a headless server that takes the JSON request data and returns the computation results.
Over multiple tests, the average total execute time for the 2018 mini was 1.126 CPU seconds. The M1 under Rosetta was 1.414 CPU seconds, and the recompiled native M1 was 0.697 seconds. This API gets hit about 25,000 times a day, mostly during business hours. So this improvement is significant.
Hi, which one will be good for developers? I mean for using Xcode. Because Xcode is taking more RAM and it is killing the performance of the Mac that I'm using now.
Great analysis
great in depth video!!
One would think that the reason Apple continues to sell Intel computers is because they have an overstock of Intel chips that they need to use up.
And production lines in Foxconn running and similar stuff.
The reason why they still sell Intel base because many tools for developers are not optimized for M1 yet.
@chippster stephens m2 mac mini should have a 32gb option
Finally, the video that I have been waiting for!...Thank you, Daniel!...Since I'm not a gamer, M1 Mac Mini is my choice and it is cheaper.
I started watching the video and my brother brought the customary snacks. I paused the video and threw him along with the snacks out of my room. Thank you. Let’s continue.
I think the wake from sleep test on the mini is testing your monitor wake time more than the mini.
Thank you for your detail review. You made it easier to make the choice.
Why was a recommended this 6 months later
Great review
Gracias for the video but this M1 is a slap in the face for the competition they better wake up
Depends what you are using the Mac Mini for? The thing with the mini is that it misses out on one of the big advantages of the M1 chip, the low-power cores, ergo battery life. So you are really buying the Mac mini for the performance. However, as this is a new platform that performance is at the cost of some features. That is where you need to make a decision as to Intel -v- Apple Silicon?
Useful review
I love your channel, and this is a great comparison of the performance difference between the two versions.
I have just purchased the M1 model to replace a 10 year old Hackintosh and the first thing I noticed was the total failure of the M1 to connect to and use my existing
Canon printers. I know that UA-cams care a lot about video editing, but most of us just want the thing to work. Canon totally fails here by not supplying some driver support for the new system.
My Epson V550 scanner on the other hand worked flawlessly. Epson had an installer that just worked and the Epson scan software ran perfectly despite running under Rosetta. Amazing contrast to Canon.
Thanks for the Canon info, i use 2 canon printers.
awesome level of detail 👍
Is Cinebench R23 optimized for M1? Wouldn't that matter?
Was there a reason why when you was testing the GPU you didnt also have the eGPU on the M1? I know you was showing how the onboard gpu was but it would have been nice to see it with it just to know what to expect.
This is a very well done comparison! Thank you! Maybe you could do another comparison where you focus much more on productive apps, for example Microsoft Office and other major packages.
So what you're saying is that an i7 Mac mini, with 32GB of RAM and 2TB of storage (Price from Apple £2,599 with 10Gbe) and an RX5700XT GFX Card (£400ish) and an enclosure (say £325) total of around £3200, often beats a £599 Mac mini ???
For 5 times the price I would be somewhat angry if it didn't. The M1 Mac mini is a replacement for the i3 Mac mini, I would like to see a test against that. And adding the EGPU if you want to but if your prepared to spend so much on an EGPU, wouldn't you just buy an i9 16" MBP and trouser £600?
Is M1 good for music production ? pro tools ?
Which one of my main use is lightroom classic and fcpx also can m1 run windows under parrells thanks 🙏
Can someone help me? I want to buy a new mac at the cheapest price possible. I'm hesitating between the M1 mac mini at 799 euros (8G+256) or a second hand 2018 i5 6-core Mac mini 8G 256g at 700 euros. The reason why I am considering the i5 is because I will be able to upgrade it in the future whereas I will be stuck with the 8g and 256g of the M1. Is it worth considering ? or should I just go with the m1. I feel 8g is going to be too low very soon.
Question, I'm about to buy the Intel mini.. can I do the Ram upgrade later ? .. help plz...
@ZONEofTech So it did happen. They came up with a M1 pro as you mentioned last year. Just gave a thumbs up
Good video comparison. I just bought the 2020 Mac Mini M1 on sale from Amazon for $570 new. It was $130 off. I was hoping it was worth it. I only wanted a decent desktop for web-surfing, emails and UA-cam only.
You could have done all that with a Raspberry Pi and saved a whole lot of money.
im happy with my m1 mac mini!! never been so happy on my purchase. and also my linux skills helps alot to switch to mac os. thanks for the video!
I'm keeping my 2018 i5 as I upgraded the RAM to 32GB myself and have an ogpu that makes game play outstanding.
I think the next M1 is gonna be a BEAST. I would buy the M1 once they get some updates, optimizes software without Rosetta and gets eGPU support. I'm not gonna worry about running bootcamp because they are working on version Parallels to work on the M1 which may be out in another 2-3 quarters. If they can get this done I would buy a M1 with 16Gb of ram and the 1-2 TB ssd and still come out cheaper tham the 2018 intel Mac Mini.
So it doesn’t seem fair to compare the 8 gig ram M1 vs the 32 gig ram Intel + GPu at significant additional cost. At least get comparable ram in each.
Yeah, plus there's the big factor that the M1 performs very similarly to the Intel and in many ways out-performs it, when they're about 400 dollars in price difference
You didnt mention anything about the compatibility
The M1 chip uses ARM architecture while Intels cpus use x86 architecture so if you wanna run a microsoft programm well then get the intel model
Thats just my opinion
True. And many other apps
Which monitor are you using?
Think the ONLY reason on getting intel one is for egpu, color more ports, ram and optimization
So it seems the massive performance increase is just due to gpu acceleration, when it comes to cpu vs cpu, the improvement is very small, but then again we're comparing a cpu that is two years old and has 6 cores to one that litterally just came out and has 8 cores
Can I use my old Macbook pro 2012 as a monitor with M1 mac mini, if not, then maybe the intel one?
Thank you sir👍👍
Great video!
Glad you enjoyed it
Im sold on the M1. Thanks!
Hello! Which one would you recommend if you plan to run Windows 10 on Parallels?
You cannot run x64/x86 Windows on the M1. So the Intel version is not just recommended, but required.
I bought the mini last year as a home server and see no advantage to the M1 mini...I would be interested in a 2021 macbook pro M1 if it has 4 usb c ports...2 ports would be dongle hell when out and about
The best comparison on UA-cam!
Maybe an arm bootcamp will be introduced at some point 😃
Can we run & install Windows 10 on both ?
Dope video
I’m using the i7 Mac mini with 64GB RAM and 1TB SSD. No gaming. Definitely no need for update to the M1.
Maybe the M1X would be a game changer.
I have a 2012 mac mini with 16 gb RAM. does not know if i can install 64 and the other thing Lr is requiring Ventura . What do you recommend if going to upgrade mi mini?? Thanks.
@@fotografiahomeric get a Mac Studio in Basis config. Perfect for Lr.
Loved this video! Definitely Subbing!
I have 2012 27" iMac, would you recommend me to substitute for a Mac Mini M1 or wait for iMac M1?
If your iMac works well than you should keep it but if it’s slow then you could get a Mac mini but you would also need to get a separate monitor of your choice which is cheaper then the Imac and better but your choice
@@khangn5354 Thanks for your advice!
Good stuff
I really wish the space grey mini case came with the m1/2
thank you for the thorough review :)
What Benq monitor is that? Drop the link
Bought M1 -
Thanks for your detailed review!
I would like to see a video how well a 4k video from an iPhone 12 Pro Max will be imported to the M1 directly via USB from the iPhone.
All I did was air drop that footage into the m1 not usb
Why does it have to be a Mac mini pro and not just a higher specked Mac mini like there are now?
It's cool but Daniel Where's the z fold 2 review?
Hey Daniel!
Hello!
Seriously
Any reason why none of the reviewers mention Bluetooth, WiFi and other connection problems with the M1 Macs?
They're not actual reviewers, just an outsourced marketing department.
imo swap the mac mini enclosure. The space grey looks cooler.
m1 is faster but it sucks that macs will finally be fast af in the coming future, but they dont support windows
EXACTLY! that is precisely why I brought the last gen of intel iMacs, it just arrived like 10 days ago and i've been using windows 10 which is what i wanted, apple hardware plus windows software
@@wolverineiscool7161 yeah it’s good
Hi does new M1 Mac mini support 5120x1440 monitors? I want to buy M1 Mac mini but not sure if it supports my Samsung CRG9 monitor?
It does!
Can the Mac Mini M1 run 2 4K monitors at once?
what I'd like to know is how much did he pay for that intel I-7 with 32gb of ram 2TB HD and that 5700XT eGPU I'll bet it was a lot more then the $659 for the M-1
Was hoping to see a comparison for Premiere and After Effects 😒
What monitor is that ?
Take your time to confirm you’re on Spider-Man 3.
I'm having 16,256 Mac Mini M1(India), I'm getting a 50 - 100 Scores less than all of those test results, Please tell me why this happens..(200 less in SSD test ), TOO SAD, but Satisfied !!,,, Please install TG pro and check the chipsets it's detecting 7-performance, 2-efficient, 2-gpu cores ? Is that software useless ??? Is maintaining average CPU below 33* correct or should i make it little higher ?? or that's the truth ??? iStat Menus isn't detecting Temperature other than SSD
// I'm new to Mac environment,,, but understood the env. Please clarify these doubts alone !!!
Thanks for reading ++!
Link to the m1 compatible 5700xt egpu
ಅದ್ಭುತವಾದ ಸುಂದರವಾದ ವಿಡಿಯೋ ❤️😍 amazing and beautiful video ❤️
My modest Skylake Hackintosh boots in 13 seconds...
M1 must-have. Thank you Daniel
Thanks. As a musician, the M1 would be better. But losing half the TB3 ports is really annoying.
Once the M2 Mac mini comes out I wouldn’t be surprised if the cheaper MC beats the most expensive Intel Mac mini.
But the cheaper M1 already beats the intel Mac mini. The only time the intel Mac mini beats it or comes close is when the eGPU is connected. That’s already a lot of money and not part of the intel Mac mini. Because the lack of eGPU support in Apple silicon is temporary.
it sounds a bit mad and no pun is intended, but the silence is deafening. i miss the sound of the fan. I used to walk into the room and hear the gentle fan noise of my PC and new instantly it was on and ready to go. Now, I hear nothing, and it just feels so very strange.
if i will go with intel that just because I need to use bootcamp for running win, the thing that hold me back of getting m1 that not yet bootcamb can run win
don't care if they make a space grey version I just want better graphics.
Hello & How are you?
Congrats on your UA-cam channel.
Please advise which Mac Mini I should get (Value/performance) between
the following.
Hardware
3.2GHz 6‑core 8th‑generation Intel Core i7 (Turbo Boost up to 4.6GHz)
16GB 2666MHz DDR4 Intel UHD Graphics 630 512GB SSD storage Gigabit
Ethernet Accessory Kit
Total US$ $1,499.00
or
Hardware Apple M1 chip with 8‑core CPU, 8‑core GPU, and 16‑core Neural
Engine 16GB unified memory 512GB SSD storage 10 Gigabit Ethernet
Accessory Kit
Total US$ $1,199.00
Apple M1 chip does not indicate the speed of this processor. Do you
know? Do both options come with WIFI?
Are these Mac mini trouble free and can they get hot over time. Is
16gb sufficient for just surfing and using Microsoft office?
Thanks & Regards,
Richard De Gannes
Why can I not get the M1 with 32gig RAM?
12:55 Intel mini did better because integrated graphics are optimised for h264 and 265 formats specifically as far as I have read.
There’ll never be anything like: the Mac mini pro ... that kinda defiles the “mini” in the name
3.49 => It is not three point forty-nine. It is three point four nine.
I am curious, how do you explain the fact that apple decides to make their own processor, and at first attempt they get such better performance? Are they that ahead?
Yes and no. The reality is that Intel has been at the top, for decades now. They never had any competition so they couldn't be bothered to innovate. AMD"s doing pretty well now too.