RTX 4070 vs RTX 4070 Super- The Ultimate Comparison!!!

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  • Опубліковано 6 сер 2024
  • This RTX 4070 Super review focuses on a detailed comparison vs its closest price competitor- Nvidia's own RTX 4070, which used to share the $599 MSRP, but has now been reduced to $549. With only a $50 difference in MSRP, which card should you buy? In this video I am testing the Founders Edition of both GPUs in the latest games at a variety of graphics settings including ray tracing, path tracing, DLSS, DLSS 3 FG, and more!
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    Chapters:
    0:00 Avatar 1080p Ultra
    0:29 Avatar 1440p Ultra
    0:57 Avatar 1440p Ultra DLSS Q
    1:25 Avatar 1440p High
    1:53 Avatar 4K Ultra DLSS Q
    2:19 Avatar 4K High
    2:48 Avatar 4K High DLSS Q
    3:12 Alan Wake 2 1080p High
    3:47 Alan Wake 2 1080p RT High
    4:19 Alan Wake 2 1080p RT High DLSS Q
    4:52 Alan Wake 2 1080p RT High DLSS Q FG
    5:24 Alan Wake 2 1440p High
    5:58 Alan Wake 2 1440p High DLSS Q
    6:30 Alan Wake 2 1440p RT High DLSS Q
    7:03 Alan Wake 2 1440p RT High DLSS P
    7:36 Alan Wake 2 1440p RT High DLSS P FG
    8:09 Alan Wake 2 4K High
    8:42 Alan Wake 2 4K High DLSS Q
    9:15 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p Ultra
    9:47 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p RT Overdrive
    10:20 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p RT Overdrive DLSS Q
    10:53 Cyberpunk 2077 1080p RT Overdrive DLSS Q FG
    11:26 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p Ultra
    11:59 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p RT Overdrive DLSS Q
    12:32 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p RT Overdrive DLSS P
    13:05 Cyberpunk 2077 1440p RT Overdrive DLSS P FG
    13:39 Cyberpunk 2077 4K RT Overdrive DLSS P
    14:11 Baldur's Gate 3 1080p Ultra
    14:44 Baldur's Gate 3 1440p Ultra
    15:16 Baldur's Gate 3 4K Ultra
    15:49 Starfield 1080p Ultra
    16:22 Starfield 1440p Ultra
    16:55 Starfield 1440p Ultra DLSS Q
    17:28 Starfield 1440p Ultra DLSS Q FG
    18:01 Starfield 4K Ultra
    18:34 Starfield 4K Ultra DLSS Q
    19:07 Starfield 4K Ultra DLSS Q FG
    19:40 CoD MW3 1080p Basic
    20:12 CoD MW3 1440p Basic
    20:46 CoD MW3 4K Basic
    21:18 Resident Evil 4 1080p Max
    21:51 Resident Evil 4 1440p Max
    22:22 Resident Evil 4 4K Max
    22:53 Resident Evil 4 4K Prioritize Graphics
    23:24 Lords of the Fallen 1080p Ultra
    23:56 Lords of the Fallen 1440p Ultra
    24:27 Lords of the Fallen 1440p Ultra DLSS Q
    24:59 Lords of the Fallen 4K Ultra
    25:31 RoboCop 1080p Epic
    26:08 RoboCop 1440p Epic
    26:44 RoboCop 1440p Epic DLSS Q
    27:19 RoboCop 1440p Epic DLSS Q FG
    27:55 RoboCop 4K Epic
    28:31 Immortals of Aveum 1080p Ultra
    29:07 Immortals of Aveum 1440p Ultra
    29:44 Immortals of Aveum 1440p Ultra DLSS Q
    30:20 Immortals of Aveum 4K Ultra
    30:55 Final Thoughts
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  • @danielowentech
    @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +21

    Here's the 4070 Super vs the 7800 XT in this same set of tests: ua-cam.com/video/x6EfOf0ZoAM/v-deo.html
    And here's the 7800 XT vs the 4070 (not super) in this same set of tests: ua-cam.com/video/ry8OJTnMhKs/v-deo.html
    There will definitely be more to come when I have time to finish the editing. I've tested a bunch of other GPUs in this same set of tests including some interesting ones to compare to the 4070 Super like the 3070 Ti, 3080, 3090, and 4070 Ti.

    • @bootskirusso1704
      @bootskirusso1704 6 місяців тому +1

      Glad to hear you tested the higher end of last-gen. Will be useful for a lot of us, I'm sure. Thanks for the work you put in.

  • @aftermarkgaming
    @aftermarkgaming 6 місяців тому +274

    Straight to business with all the comparisons you would want. That's why Daniel is my favorite techtuber.

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 6 місяців тому +19

      His ability to single take and keep great understandable logic is second to none. Fav channel for GPUs.

    • @PyrotechnicMailman
      @PyrotechnicMailman 6 місяців тому +1

      For real!!

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 6 місяців тому +3

      Teachtuber :p

    • @Anankin12
      @Anankin12 6 місяців тому +2

      @@christophermullins7163 his experience as a math teacher shows

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 6 місяців тому +1

      @@Anankin12 yeah that's it. Although I'd argue none of my math teachers were as good 😊

  • @neilstack4194
    @neilstack4194 6 місяців тому +59

    Thanks Dan for the staggering amount of stats per game reviewed

  • @sapphyrus
    @sapphyrus 6 місяців тому +138

    I love how Daniel has no excuses for not doing upscaling tests unlike most other channels which pretty much everyone uses at this stage. It’s much more of a real world scenario than the 20FPS running native 4K tests of other channels.

    • @RXC13
      @RXC13 6 місяців тому +11

      When comparing purely Nvidia GPUs, the numbers are very useful. But if you want to compare to AMD or Intel cards, you are comparing apples to oranges if you add upscaling.
      So I prefer native performance to find out which cards are better overall at a given price.

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +45

      I try to show realistic use cases, which I think for many people include upscaling. In a 2 GPU comparison like I do, you can show the image quality differences (albeit imperfectly due to YT compression), whereas in a bar graph that gets a bit trickier to navigate. I try to produce content that complements the big "bar graph" style reviews that have a lot more GPUs in one video, but usually fewer settings tested. Both are very useful in my opinion.

    • @sapphyrus
      @sapphyrus 6 місяців тому +1

      @@danielowentech Thank you Daniel, definitely much appreciated. I have a 4K monitor so as far as I’m concerned native benchmarks are as useful as 3DMark to me. I’ll utilize some kind of upscaling and I’ll turn up the settings till I reach a comfortable FPS and I believe most people are like that. If people decide based on the feature set as a purchase reason, calling it unfair and not showing that is uniformative. When you show upscaling and framegen, I can find out if those games will run on that card at an acceptable performance. Place in the pecking order by itself isn’t enough. Ok it beats this and that but can it play what I want? The channels who went full academic stopped showing that.

    • @SameBasicRiff
      @SameBasicRiff 6 місяців тому +3

      @@danielowentech you do it the best!

  • @drabl0
    @drabl0 6 місяців тому +11

    Great stuff! Love jumping right into the point of the video. Can't wait to see 4070ti super and 4080 super benchmarks!

  • @Sponley
    @Sponley 5 місяців тому +1

    benchmark videos with useful commentary are so rare. You're the goat

  • @Core2
    @Core2 6 місяців тому +1

    Tks for the review, awesome as always!

  • @Balyrion
    @Balyrion 6 місяців тому +5

    I would love to hear your summary price to performance sweet spot once you have digested all the different super cards. I know for me I tend to spend way less than most, I like to shop at the $300 price point, I might be persuaded to $500. More than that I just cannot make myself drop that much on a video card.

  • @saffiullah9080
    @saffiullah9080 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks Dan for the benchmarks

  • @DavidAlfredoGuisado
    @DavidAlfredoGuisado 6 місяців тому +43

    The super sips more power but other than that it looks like a nice refresh if you want that level of performance. On the other hand I still believe the most appealing "super" card is the 4070 Ti Super. Don't waste your money if you're on a 3080 or newer since RTX 5000 series are just a year (maybe earlier) away.

    • @jalma9643
      @jalma9643 6 місяців тому +10

      And if there is no crypto rising in near future, we might finally be gotten "normally" price GPU in those year. I have hope for Battlemage since it will fight this year.

    • @tadsnyder2756
      @tadsnyder2756 6 місяців тому +5

      Bro i thought that about the 40 series last gen and it turned out to be a line of crap gpu’s I don’t really have much confidence anything next gen will be worth it unless you’re willing to spend the 3000$ or whatever they’re gonna charge for their 90’series card

    • @Brownwaffles
      @Brownwaffles 6 місяців тому +11

      Yah problem is people starting to buy gpus for artificial intelligence creation. So good luck 🍀 on those lower prices that will never come 😢

    • @Frozoken
      @Frozoken 6 місяців тому +1

      Yeah but it's still actually 5-10% more efficient.

    • @IncredibleLyrics
      @IncredibleLyrics 6 місяців тому +1

      I got a 3070 not sure what to buy for RT 1440p.

  • @limonabc
    @limonabc 6 місяців тому +4

    hi daniel, 20% more cores but only 10% power limit added which makes me think it may be the bottleneck for 4070super on heavy load, could you please raise the power limit to 240w and compare the results? thank u very much.🤝

  • @forresthunter1483
    @forresthunter1483 6 місяців тому +9

    "We are now seeing 69, nice, on the Super card."
    I freaking adore your channel, man, hahaha!

  • @IcyTorment
    @IcyTorment 6 місяців тому +3

    My thinking on frame generation is this: Frame generation trades latency for smoothness. Smoothness tops out at a relatively low framerate. So it's likely that FG really only makes sense at *low* framerates in games that aren't very latency sensitive (e.g., flight simulators like MSFS and DCS World). At high framerates in an FPS or something like that, you're getting worse latency and no noticeable improvement in smoothness unless the framerate is so low as to make a competitive FPS really unpleasant no matter what.

  • @TubeandJar
    @TubeandJar 6 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for your work sir.

  • @natusvincere966
    @natusvincere966 6 місяців тому +7

    Suggested future head to head video:
    4070 Super vs 4070 Ti Super vs 3090 - Many people want the 24GB of VRAM for AI and productivity. But does it even make sense for gamers even considering future proofing? Nvidia themselves compared the 4070 Super to the 3090 so I find it a bit odd that only TechPowerUp seemed to have put it in their GPU lineup.

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +2

      I tested the 3090. Should have the comparison at some point.

  • @fredsorre6605
    @fredsorre6605 6 місяців тому +21

    looks like that 18% performance difference on average from VideoCardz is pretty spot on the RTX4070 is now finally at the price it should have launched at and the Super version has a decent enough difference for that additional 50$.

    • @CedricBassman
      @CedricBassman 25 днів тому

      Almost 20% performance for basically the same power consumption?
      Definitely worth 50 Bucks. In fact i got my Super for only 30 Euro more than a standard 4070, that decision was even more of a no brainer.

  • @adamdove3495
    @adamdove3495 6 місяців тому

    Sweet comparison. Still in the return window for my 4070 so definitely throwing another $50 at it.

  • @adriancioroianu1704
    @adriancioroianu1704 6 місяців тому +3

    Please mention at least at the start what cpu and ram freq/latency are you using for the tests. I know you focus on scaling but we don't know what to compare to when we do some aproximate maths for our builds to get an idea about expected performance. I know the differences aren't huge but it helps.

  • @HardyDimension
    @HardyDimension 6 місяців тому

    I don't own any of these GPUs or planning to get it, but I did appreciate all your time & effort. Love you, Daniel 👍👍🙏❤

  • @Patrick_AV
    @Patrick_AV 6 місяців тому +4

    Hi Daniel, i still hate it that there is only 12gb of ram available...

  • @johnbrooks2122
    @johnbrooks2122 Місяць тому

    Always great work .god bless u and ur family man😊

  • @noahb7947
    @noahb7947 6 місяців тому

    My favorite PC specs comparison channel

  • @andrzejbogdanowicz9254
    @andrzejbogdanowicz9254 6 місяців тому

    Will I feel any difference when limiting frames to 60 in all games and using dlss where needed?

  • @eribetra
    @eribetra 6 місяців тому +69

    It's great to see the 4070 SUPER is performing very well as a middle ground GPU in between the 4070/7800XT and the 4070 Ti/7900XT. Excited to check out the 4070 Ti SUPER and 4080 SUPER benchmarks, since they're the ones supposedly dethroning the 7900XT and XTX respectively.

    • @elitepauper7400
      @elitepauper7400 6 місяців тому +25

      They will for now. After like 3 years those cards will already struggle i theorize. Meanwhile the 7900XT Will have plenty of longevity cause of its vram and bus width. Same goes for XTX.

    • @jalma9643
      @jalma9643 6 місяців тому +2

      Since the crypto crash and miner have been quite these years. GPU Pricing have been better. Hope i can get sub 200$ GPU that can last me for 2024 game

    • @jeremyg2236
      @jeremyg2236 6 місяців тому +17

      the 12gb vram is bugging me still, ngl......

    • @nicane-9966
      @nicane-9966 6 місяців тому +4

      ​@@elitepauper7400 16gb wont have any issue

    • @elitepauper7400
      @elitepauper7400 6 місяців тому +5

      @@nicane-9966 we said that about 4gb aswell. And then 8gb. Times are changing

  • @nisraelsson
    @nisraelsson 6 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for the review. I will still continue to use my 6750 xt. Don't forget to take care of yourself. You have been open with that you have family and day time job as a teacher. Don't overwork yourself.

  • @selohcin
    @selohcin 6 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Thanks, Daniel! I agree: this is what the original 4070 should have been.

  • @musicalbacon2
    @musicalbacon2 6 місяців тому +2

    I’ve watched a few videos of yours now, why is the footage always jittery when you do these tests? Is it because of the uncapped frame rate? Do you turn vsync/freesync off? I’m only asking because I’m assuming these games don’t look like this in practice and if they did I would turn down the settings immediately

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +6

      I have a footnote about this at the beginning of the video. Yes, external capture without vsync looks like this. It would not look this way on a VRR display. Capturing use the GPU encoder would help the smoothness of the footage, but it can have a minor performance penalty, so I choose the method of external capture for most accurate performance results.

    • @musicalbacon2
      @musicalbacon2 6 місяців тому +1

      @@danielowentech perfect. Thank you for the answer

  • @danabell2709
    @danabell2709 6 місяців тому +224

    I still cannot imagine paying $600 for 12GB of VRAM. That said, I cannot wait to see what the 4070 TI and 4080 Super do. With 16GB, either may be a really good deal.

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 6 місяців тому +56

      4070 Ti Super ***

    • @acytify
      @acytify 6 місяців тому +3

      This I will wait til the 4070ti super comes out

    • @R4K1B-
      @R4K1B- 6 місяців тому +91

      This card isnt fast enough for 4k where 16 GB helps.
      12 is perfectly fine for 1440p

    • @chethanprabhu4475
      @chethanprabhu4475 6 місяців тому +47

      @@R4K1B- Fine for now. After a year it won't be enough for 1440 gaming

    • @DavidFregoli
      @DavidFregoli 6 місяців тому +100

      it's fine for 1440p stop whining

  • @TonyMcCrea
    @TonyMcCrea 3 місяці тому +1

    So in the 1% lows there's only a 5-8 fps difference on average?

  • @niklausweisskopf3062
    @niklausweisskopf3062 6 місяців тому +1

    hi your audio level is lower than usual! you are falling out of the volume of the other youtube videos, please fix! you were louder in the past. thx

  • @GabrielGarcia-sy5nm
    @GabrielGarcia-sy5nm 6 місяців тому

    Are you running AMD fluid Motion Frames feature?

  • @Shantiante
    @Shantiante 6 місяців тому

    Any thoughts on using this over 4080 super on a samsung 49" G9 32:9 240Hz 5120x1440? it's a 90% 4K screen, but I am having doubts on the 40-series and waiting on the 50-generation. Add to that i only sport a 1050 Ti - which have held up suprisingly well so far. But it's hitting the bottom now with minimum specs on AAA-titles.
    What I am asking is if any have thoughts on what GPU to choose from the current offerings for my monitor, or if I should just take a much cheaper 4060 and save some money for a better 50-series.

  • @TechGamesAU
    @TechGamesAU 6 місяців тому

    That’s a surprisingly good improvement

  • @IViCI
    @IViCI 6 місяців тому

    Hi Daniel, when the 4070ti Super is released, could you compare it with a 3090 to see if it is worth the upgrade while loosing 8gb of Vram?

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +1

      I have the 3090 benchmarks done, so I will probably do the comparison at some point. Won't be the first one i do though.

  • @Superdazzu2
    @Superdazzu2 5 місяців тому

    i think you really should use the dlss balanced preset when using RT and FG at 1440p, it looks slightly softer than quality but fps go way up

  • @jmdb8768
    @jmdb8768 6 місяців тому +1

    I'm planning to get this card for 1080p 144hz gaming paired with my ryzen 5 5600 would this be a good idea or should i just buy the 4060Ti 16 gb version? I'm still planning to upgrade my monitor soon

    • @MotivationVerse1
      @MotivationVerse1 24 дні тому

      Nah just buy an rtx 4070 or 4070 super for more fps

  • @TrusteftTech
    @TrusteftTech 6 місяців тому

    If you use a 1440p monitor, wouldn't it make it look better to use performance mode as that is rendering the game at 720p which is exactly half the resolution of 1440p? It should make it look clearer than other modes other than native.

  • @Alte.Kameraden
    @Alte.Kameraden 6 місяців тому +7

    Biggest issue I see is the 4070 super was often 4-10c hotter. How cool the 4070 runs is the entire reason I picked one up. 4070 Super is more hungry for more performance and you can see it in the temps.

    • @jaykesrwani
      @jaykesrwani 6 місяців тому +3

      Same, picked up a 4070 open box for 440$ and im very impressed with 56- 60 degree C on most things its 15 degrees cooler than my old 1070 and way quieter. Thanks for ur comment it made me feel better about my purchase haha

    • @eplugplay8409
      @eplugplay8409 6 місяців тому +3

      Same here, had a 7900 XT originally and my NR200P case was like a hot box! Returned it, went to Best Buy last year got my 4070 FE model with Best Buy credit card for $499. Paid it off right away in full as I have the cash and got more points on the Best Buy rewards.

    • @Alte.Kameraden
      @Alte.Kameraden 6 місяців тому

      @@eplugplay8409 Got mine for $544. Wish I had a Best Buy if you picked it up for $499. Mine though is the MSI Ventus 2x White Edition, weighs almost nonthing. I don't see GPU sag being an issue for it.
      I read how hot AMD GPUs are and it's scary. Nvidia's 3000 series was very hot as well which is why the 3070 never got a single fan XTI version unlike the 970, 1070 and 2070. The 4080 and 4090 are as well, so much so like some AMD GPUs they can melt their connectors. Meanwhile the 4060 and 4070 would be the best GPUs on the market in my opinion if they had more VRAM.

    • @csi2448
      @csi2448 6 місяців тому

      @@eplugplay8409 shame they got rid of the credit card code, cause it came in handy. I used it for my 4070 FE as well, and was gonna use it for a 50 Series card!

  • @zalankhan5743
    @zalankhan5743 6 місяців тому +58

    Both Nvidia and Amd are Changing The Market. $500 Gpus for 1080p Gaming, $800-1000 for 1440p Gaming and $1000-1200+ for 4k.

    • @vFxc
      @vFxc 6 місяців тому +14

      RX 7800 XT is 500$ and is perfect for 1440p gaming ?!

    • @DarkOverFlowOverflow
      @DarkOverFlowOverflow 6 місяців тому +7

      ​@vFxc enjoy dx12 driver crashing issues i just returned my rx 7800 back will get 70 super

    • @clockworklegionaire2135
      @clockworklegionaire2135 6 місяців тому +12

      4070, 4070 Super, 6800 XT, 7700 XT, 7800 XT all do 1440p fine including 30 series too

    • @bjvink0130
      @bjvink0130 6 місяців тому +12

      @@DarkOverFlowOverflownever had any dx12 games crashing with rx 7900 xt

    • @clem9808
      @clem9808 6 місяців тому +1

      Why game at 1440p? Just buy a controller , and game at 4k. The 4070 can handle it well. I've never gone below 1920p with that card in single player titles, and mostly go for 2160p(4k) , and heck even 2880p(5k).

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy 6 місяців тому

    How's the 4070 Super compare to the 7800 XT, I wonder?

  • @BMAD_Christoph27
    @BMAD_Christoph27 6 місяців тому

    I've just done these benchmarks in Cyberpunk on pretty much the same exact system specs (7800x3d, 32gb 6000mhz CL30) but with a 2080 super, and without raytracing I sit pretty much in between the 4070 and 4070 super (both at 1920x1080 and 2560x1440p), is this supposed to happen?
    It falls hard on it's ass though when I enable any amount of RT. If that's true, is my only upgrade path a 4080+, 7900xtx or 4090? (especially considering I'm on a 32:9 5120x1440 which is closer in system demand to 4k than it is to 1440p)
    I double checked that any upscaling was disabled...

    • @jrminate
      @jrminate 6 місяців тому +1

      You have to test with the same exact settings and exact location when comparing to someone elses benchmarks. Especially if its not a built in game benchmark, your results will be severely off as location / time of day in games can be the difference of fps being off Plus or minus 50% depending on the game and your hardware and if the game is demanding. So many factors. That being said the regular 4070 is ~45-50% faster than a 2080 super. The 2080 ti is about 20% faster than a 2080 super. Even a 7800xt would be a huge upgrade or a regular 4070, but I would highly recommend the 4070 ti super if you want to stay nvidia for more future proof if you want to keep a gpu for awhile.

  • @motelghost477
    @motelghost477 6 місяців тому +6

    I'm looking forward to a direct comparison between the 4070 ti super and the 4070 (the card I have now).

  • @stitchyrichie
    @stitchyrichie Місяць тому

    Any point in upgrading my 4070 to 4080 super mini

  • @swiftless6330
    @swiftless6330 6 місяців тому

    Do you yall know if a 4070 super with a ryzen 7 5800x will bottleneck or just be find

  • @Excal123
    @Excal123 6 місяців тому +5

    Man $600 is still asking a lot.... I think I would've instantly buy if it was $500

  • @walter274
    @walter274 6 місяців тому

    Thanks. I'm curious how it stacks up against the 3080 12gb.

    • @chronaii6625
      @chronaii6625 6 місяців тому +2

      The 4070 is roughly the same perf as the 3080 12gb.

  • @billymaze4733
    @billymaze4733 6 місяців тому +2

    Is the 4070 worth it at 500?

  • @slammerjam
    @slammerjam 6 місяців тому

    Which game is in the thumbnail?

  • @virtualgaming9173
    @virtualgaming9173 2 місяці тому

    is 4070s worth upgrade from my GT1030?

  • @izidor
    @izidor 6 місяців тому +5

    31:47 Is IMHO the wrong approach. The 1% lows is what matters. I do not care if they Game runs at 100 FPS or 120 FPS but i do care if it runs at 40 FPS or 50 FPS.
    The 4070 Super is way to expensive for what it is. and 9% more performance for 9% more money is also the wrong approach. UA-camrs nowdays seem to make wrong calculation...sometimes it feeles like they try to justify the price politics from big companies. If you keep calculating like that, Nvidia and AMD are supposed to take 5000 Dollar per GPU´s within the next 10 years. You as a teacher should know this grows exponential...the consumers will not be able to purchase a GPU`s in the future, also GPU´s will become more or less a luxory product.

  • @leyterispap6775
    @leyterispap6775 6 місяців тому

    Really like ur benchmarking , alltho i think most ppl playing competitive' games, not professionaly , usually go for their monitors maximoum refresh rate and not for the absolute fps number. So maybe just think about showin benchmarks that go for a specific fps number ,for example 2k 165 hz , 1080 240 etc. good job though .

    • @pravnav
      @pravnav 6 місяців тому

      @elcactuar3354 Why are you being so rude? Also, 2k literally means 1440p. I don't know why you're being such a dick to him

  • @KuPanSkuter
    @KuPanSkuter 6 місяців тому

    Hey, can you do comparision beetwen rtx 4070 super and rtx 3080 12 gb? PLs :)

  • @justinwalker5237
    @justinwalker5237 6 місяців тому +1

    Why not compare it to the ti model

  • @AKK5I
    @AKK5I Місяць тому

    "Why waste time on an intro when you can just roll the benchmarks"
    Instant like and subscribe

  • @user-lk5kn2tr7k
    @user-lk5kn2tr7k 6 місяців тому +1

    Yes, don't do graph please, tiny Daniel pointer + video scrolling is more than enough + entertaining.
    Would be interesting to see how 4070 ti super runs.

  • @Z3torq8
    @Z3torq8 6 місяців тому

    hi, you should add palworld with the test games

  • @Alexruja3227
    @Alexruja3227 6 місяців тому +25

    I would love to see the difference between the RX 7800 XT and RTX 4070S!

    • @christophermullins7163
      @christophermullins7163 6 місяців тому +9

      The 4070 super is a bit faster.. but you should get the 7800 XT anyway.

    • @Iowcatalyst
      @Iowcatalyst 6 місяців тому

      I believe they are going to be roughly the same for rasterized performance and nvidia will have the advantage with ray tracing and better upscaling

    • @Alexruja3227
      @Alexruja3227 6 місяців тому

      @@christophermullins7163 I was thinking the same, I would like to build a pc soon and my budget si fairly tight, between the 7800 xt and 4070
      Super theres a 70 euro difference and Im not sure I can justify it

    • @4doorsmorewhors
      @4doorsmorewhors 6 місяців тому +33

      ​@@christophermullins7163good advice why get better when you can get worse

    • @Alexruja3227
      @Alexruja3227 6 місяців тому +7

      @@4doorsmorewhors I think thats the wrong way to put it, its likes saying why get the 4070S when the 4080S is better.. By PTP metrics the 7800 xt/6800 xt is better if you dont care about ray tracing (which I personally dont in the slightest)

  • @eplugplay8409
    @eplugplay8409 6 місяців тому

    Nice upgrade for those looking to buy a 4070 but already got my 4070 FE last year for $499.

  • @Kor3Gaming_Ghost
    @Kor3Gaming_Ghost 5 місяців тому +1

    well nvida target these gpu's to use with rt dlss & frame gen so am happy with regular 4070 , gonna be upgrading in the next 4 years rtx 5070 if theres one

  • @XxAtomic646xX
    @XxAtomic646xX 6 місяців тому +1

    hope to see a comparison of a 4070 super vs a 3080 10gb / 3080 12gb / 3080ti

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +3

      I tested the 3080 12gb. Will eventually get a comparison made.

  • @iikatinggangsengii2471
    @iikatinggangsengii2471 6 місяців тому

    nice improvement

  • @artemstepets214
    @artemstepets214 6 місяців тому

    Waiting comparison with 4070 TI
    It looks too close with extra money for TI version
    Thanks

  • @leoSaunders
    @leoSaunders 6 місяців тому

    uhhhh Daniel? why doesn't your riva OSD scale? 4:55 ; 6:50 ; 8:30

  • @rangersmith4652
    @rangersmith4652 6 місяців тому

    Why is everyone forgetting that the biggest price driver for the 4000-series Supers is existing stocks of of 4070, 4070Ti, and 4080?

  • @Charles-sy7ej
    @Charles-sy7ej 3 місяці тому

    I get well over 140 fps with my 4070. Is GeForce experience lying or does my i9 14900k keep my fps up like that?

  • @Danny-ex3tj
    @Danny-ex3tj 3 місяці тому

    Really excited to see the jump from my old 1080ti to 4070 super.

    • @deuc4lion
      @deuc4lion 3 місяці тому

      same here with 1050 Ti

  • @sorinpopa1442
    @sorinpopa1442 6 місяців тому +3

    in reality store pricing , the 4070 super its 130 euro (150$) more expensive versus the 4070 vanilla wtf ?

  • @BR3X
    @BR3X 6 місяців тому

    Can you do 3070 vs 4070 super?

  • @JuanHerrera1
    @JuanHerrera1 6 місяців тому +1

    pls add Witcher 3 Raytracing, even a single test 🙏

  • @qtipp7306
    @qtipp7306 6 місяців тому

    the ultimate test game is MSFS 2020 to tell tell the power differences. Load NYC and see what the readings are.

  • @MechAdv
    @MechAdv 6 місяців тому +4

    600$ for last gen 80 series performance is a joke. We used to get that for 300$, and last gen we got it for 400$, this gen 600$. Bullshit.
    On a positive note, Daniel is providing the best comparison data out there ATM. Good job man!

  • @Kirnale
    @Kirnale 6 місяців тому +1

    Bought the RTX4070 for 570€ (Asus proart). Incredible GPU, good brand, great design, low temps, the best GPU I've ever owned. To get a similar model in super version, I would have to pay at least 700€ (730€ Asus Tuf). So I guess I bought the right one after all when it was cheap. (Deal was in Germany ebay by an official electronic store: 690-50€(ebay code)-60€(asus cashback)-10€(cashback like shoop))

  • @hassaanbinmajeed496
    @hassaanbinmajeed496 5 місяців тому

    In my country rtx 4070 is $663 and cheapest rtx 4070 super (zotac 2 fan version) costs $733........ should i go with 4070 or the rtx 4070 super one .......any suggestion.......also here rx 7800 xt costs same as rtx 4070.....but i don't want yi buy rx.

  • @proklet4694
    @proklet4694 6 місяців тому

    Thank you for benchmarking CoD MW3!

  • @dianaalyssa8726
    @dianaalyssa8726 6 місяців тому

    Curious for the 7800XT versus 4070 S.

  • @IncredibleLyrics
    @IncredibleLyrics 6 місяців тому

    Im a 1440p gamer, want to use max settings and RT I wonder what card to really go for .. I bet the 5000 series way more expensive so this current gen probs best I can get.

    • @mx-gaming87
      @mx-gaming87 6 місяців тому

      Its hard to say, if you play 70% of time shoothers ... you need high FPS and if you play on 1440. 4080 or 4080 super . If you have no problems to test AMD drivers ... go with 7900XT.
      I am a 1080p gamer with only a 1070 ti . My plan is to wait for 5070 RTX to see if finally 16 gb vram is standard, so i can play every title that have unreal 5 engine .

  • @FunSizeSnickers
    @FunSizeSnickers 5 місяців тому

    i'm debating between this and the AMD 7900XT. im just scared that raytracing/dlss is something that i will miss out on.

    • @Bintzak
      @Bintzak 4 місяці тому

      I use an 6700XT and a 4070. In my experience the 4070 is more stable and user friendly 🤷. The 7900XT has more VRAM but I think 12 GB will be a problem when the new PS6 and X-Box will be released (2027). If you like ray tracing just go for NVIDIA. If you like fast raw performance go for AMD

    • @magnomliman8114
      @magnomliman8114 2 місяці тому

      get the 4070 super.

  • @licensetochill1299
    @licensetochill1299 6 місяців тому

    Seems decent. I’m just gonna say this now but these prices aren’t going anywhere. 50 series will be the same, and by then you’ll be so accustomed to it.

  • @Auriga4
    @Auriga4 6 місяців тому

    you know... the thing is that (today and in my country) I can buy 4070 for in $123 less (tax included; this makes the 4070 cost $501 pre-tax)... for that I believe it is certainly a great pick
    (especially since next gen is still atleast a year away and frankly it still sounds safer choice than waiting for battlemage since - we don't know exact price, performence or release date)

  • @Jaykurosakii
    @Jaykurosakii 6 місяців тому

    Wonder how it compares to 4070ti

  • @garyreid2472
    @garyreid2472 6 місяців тому

    6700xt owner. I want this super as I have £400 saved on amazon and can sell the 6700xt for £250 ish so it's essentially a free upgrade. Just the 12gb is like.... how long till I can't even max textures...... might just save for 5000's or a 16+gb card. Thoughts? (I play 1440p)

    • @jejakahensem6753
      @jejakahensem6753 6 місяців тому +2

      i think better to wait 5000

    • @rohanstormbanks7601
      @rohanstormbanks7601 6 місяців тому

      thats like throwin away money; 6700 xt is good for another year or two... U have 2 squezze every bit of performance left on that card b4 upgrading 2 a nwer gen... U shudnt upgrade atleast till Q1 2025...
      U dont need to play on Xtreme graphics every game...

    • @garyreid2472
      @garyreid2472 6 місяців тому

      @rohanstormbanks7601 85% chance I'll wait as I do think I want my next card to be strong in RT and Nvidias 4th gen RT I think will be a step up. Plus, sqeek in some path tracing

    • @rohanstormbanks7601
      @rohanstormbanks7601 6 місяців тому

      @@garyreid2472 Yep, u can consider a 5090 perhaps...

  • @NeonLuminous
    @NeonLuminous 6 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for skipping the intro like that 😂😂

  • @user78405
    @user78405 6 місяців тому +1

    i really wish my 7900xtx was 12288 compute units when amd math does not make any sense in chiplet designed to use 6144 is all gpuz sees vs 12288 it does not see on windows and linux kernel ...what gives from AMD...i feel like entire rdna3 is like amd fx buldozer release when specs say 8 cores but in reality its 4 cores on cpuz, my question is AMD making rdna3 sharing rops and tmus per every compute unit ???

  • @viscountiss
    @viscountiss 2 місяці тому

    I bought the RTX 4070 Super couple of weeks ago and really happy I wated so long to upgrade from my gtx 1070 which worked very well for all this years. Nvidia is expensive but I think with the 4070Super launch you get a lot for your money, finally....it´s still not cheap but I think it´s worth it.

  • @beemrmem3
    @beemrmem3 6 місяців тому

    How satisfied would you be with the 5070 being 4070ti Superperformance with 16gb? That's what it's going to be

  • @lorensmith1000
    @lorensmith1000 6 місяців тому

    Anyone have any advice on hop to snag this card when it drops? I’m assuming just watch Newegg tonight?

    • @TerraWare
      @TerraWare 6 місяців тому

      Yeah or Best Buy. They have a partnership with Nvidia for the founders.

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 6 місяців тому +1

      Best buy is also a good place. That's where I got my 4070 when it launched

    • @lorensmith1000
      @lorensmith1000 6 місяців тому

      @@Hydra_X9K_Music thanks. I’m confused because looking at Newegg some models are already sold out?

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 6 місяців тому

      @@lorensmith1000 Idk if they have reserved pre orders or something. I've never used Newegg.

    • @lorensmith1000
      @lorensmith1000 6 місяців тому

      @@Hydra_X9K_Music do you happen to remember what time it dropped?

  • @Technically_Techy
    @Technically_Techy 6 місяців тому +3

    can't wait to see 4070 super vs 7800xt/6800xt
    same for 4070ti super vs 7900xt
    and for 4080 super vs 4080 and 7900xtx

  • @forestnfren8146
    @forestnfren8146 5 місяців тому

    im not understanding why newer graphics cards performance seems to get worse when you go to 1080p

    • @SpectreNoodle
      @SpectreNoodle 5 місяців тому

      something about cpu performance allocation

  • @Obie327
    @Obie327 6 місяців тому +1

    Great analysis Daniel! The 4070 Super would be the minimum I buy for 1080p or 1440p. Did the Memory bus width or capacity ever felt limited? Thanks for video!

    • @MultiKamil97
      @MultiKamil97 3 місяці тому +1

      Even base 4070 is great at 1440p and for 1080p even 3060 12 GB is enough.

  • @ishay3000
    @ishay3000 6 місяців тому

    Darn no Elden Ring comparison! Was hoping to see benchmarks as that game is horribly optimized and has no dlss/fg officially supported

  • @Dante_780
    @Dante_780 6 місяців тому

    >210 W of usage? it is overclocked, isnt?

    • @Frozoken
      @Frozoken 6 місяців тому

      no it has 20% more cores and is only using 10% more power, that's better than it should be. U can also literally see the exact gpu core frequency and it's slightly lower than the regular 4070 if anything lmfao.

  • @soni650
    @soni650 6 місяців тому +2

    So 50 $ for +10 fps ? mmm idk

  • @bathtime1989
    @bathtime1989 6 місяців тому

    hi daniel i dont care and no one will except for you but you've mis spelt smoothness in your disclaimer/important note at the start.

  • @kotztotz3530
    @kotztotz3530 6 місяців тому

    3080 vs 4070 Super next please!!!

    • @danielowentech
      @danielowentech  6 місяців тому +1

      Incoming. I tested my 3080 as well, although I have the 12gb version.

    • @kotztotz3530
      @kotztotz3530 6 місяців тому +1

      @@danielowentech Thank you Daniel! I have a 12GB also :) That's one of the reasons why I love when you test your 3080 against other GPUs

  • @adink6486
    @adink6486 6 місяців тому +10

    I think we all fall victim to Stockholm syndrome. $600 is not a mid-tier GPU and 12gb vram is just upsetting. Considering AIBs will charge $50+ more and we will be looking at $700+ after tax. At least we know the future 5070 should perform faster than this 4070 super possibly around 4070 super ti territory.

    • @darkgamingbro
      @darkgamingbro 6 місяців тому +4

      12gb is fine buddy

    • @wvjeepguy8178
      @wvjeepguy8178 6 місяців тому +7

      "12gb is fine" pure nvidia copium

    • @Hydra_X9K_Music
      @Hydra_X9K_Music 6 місяців тому

      ​@@wvjeepguy8178said by an AMD fanboy huffing the same copium.

    • @adink6486
      @adink6486 6 місяців тому

      All GPUs I bought were NVDIA; GTX970, GTX1080ti and RTX3090. I undervolted my 3090 to 1830mhz 800mV average power 240-270w so I just say the facts. NVIDIA could extend the 3000 series cards by giving us software level Frame Generation like AMD did. I am sure NVIDIA will make something excursively only for the future 5000 series like FG2 or path tracing to force us to upgrade again. Just like Jensen says - Buy more to save more.

    • @wvjeepguy8178
      @wvjeepguy8178 6 місяців тому

      @@Hydra_X9K_Music lol...I buy both brands. try again.

  • @potatoskins8155
    @potatoskins8155 6 місяців тому

    I have a 6800xt right now and honestly cant justify spending £730 to get either a 4070ti or 7900xt its lack of uograde for price is just crazy.

  • @DenverStarkey
    @DenverStarkey 6 місяців тому +14

    it's rediculous that 4k TV's and monitors have been easily affordable now for 6 years , yet these hardware companies expect us to pay 800+ for a video card to run 4k at 60+ fps native.

    • @IcyTorment
      @IcyTorment 6 місяців тому +4

      "Rediculuous" seems like an overstatement. It's greeniculous or maybe yellowiculuous at most.

    • @berkertaskiran
      @berkertaskiran 6 місяців тому

      Yeah I suddenly got a 4K screen now but only on 3070. Luckily it can do some with upscaling but really it needs a 4070 Ti Super at least.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey 6 місяців тому

      @@berkertaskiran i've had a samsung 4k 60hz TV since 2018. also on a 3070 so i know the boat youa re in currently saving for a new PC . still not sure what video card i'll go with .. torn between 7900xtx , 4080 super or the 4070ti-super. i wont ahve the money till around august or sept... so will give time for every one maybe even intel too , to get new products all out.

    • @berkertaskiran
      @berkertaskiran 6 місяців тому

      @@DenverStarkey I think 4070Ti Super is a pretty good deal right now because it's the cheapest Nvidia 16GB card that is fast enough for an upgrade from 3070. Though if you don't need the tech you could also go with AMD. 4080 and 4080 Super may also be a good idea but paying that much for 16GB doesn't feel right. Honestly if I had the chance I would just go with the 4090 since I have a 144Hz screen and do productivity work as well.
      I think by the time you have the money 5000 series will also be close to release so you might also consider waiting for that which hopefully will be a big upgrade.

    • @DenverStarkey
      @DenverStarkey 6 місяців тому

      @@berkertaskiran well a 5000 series card i can afford is not that close .. even if nvidia drops the 5090 in january of 25 , it;'ll stil be 2-3 months before they release a 5080 and about 6 months before they release a 5070. so not looking to wait much longer than early Sept. if AMD launches new ryzen chips in Q3 (july-sept) i'll likely get one of them so when the 5000's do come along upgrading might be viable depending on where my RTX4000/RX7000 gpu is sitting on terms of capability versus what games are out. but since i'm on a 4k 60hz tv i think a 4080/7900xtx will hold up well on it for atleast 5 years and by then i'll be looking to just build a whole new PC again.
      90 series is too rich for my blood now. If you asked me 6-7 months ago when you could get them for as low as $1500-$1700 i was actually considering them and just pushing my budget up to $3,500 to accomadate one. but then the shit with china happened and 4090's started rising in price , now i see them between $2000-2500 bucks and that is definitely too much. i only got about $200 bucks a pay check i can put back for saving. that's $400 per month. if i was aiming for a 4090 the time before i got the money together would push me in to 25. and that's starting from where i'm at now (got 1000 saved curently). as it is now it'll be about august -sept when i got the money i'm aiming for (about $3000-3200)

  • @Code-n-Flame
    @Code-n-Flame 6 місяців тому

    So I was in the market for a 4070 or 4070 Super. Instead I got an ASUS TUF 3080 12 GB in pristine condition off ebay for $450.
    I've been benchmarking it and I'm really confused with my results. It seems like my card is punching way above its weight. For example, I ran the 1440p ultra benchmark pass against Daniel's numbers and my 3080 averaged 92 FPS. No upscaling. How is my 3080 faster than a 4070 Super??
    To add to this surprising result I'm using an 8700k and 32 GB of 3600. It's delidded and overclocked to 5GHz 47x cache ratio. Not sure what the hell is going on. I thought I would be bottlenecking this card by about 10% not actually scoring better than what im seeing online. 🥴

  • @melexxa
    @melexxa 6 місяців тому

    How did Nvidia manage 20% more cores at same clock speeds but only 10% more power???

  • @zacthegamer6145
    @zacthegamer6145 6 місяців тому +1

    Great card.