Something you forgot is that in the manga she can fight in her base form unlike the anime. She just doesn't fight because she doesn't wanna outshine caulifla even though she's much stronger than caulifla
YES! I think alot of what geekdom mentioned as differences can be attributed merely to the differences of Kale and Broly and how they were raised and NOT a difference in the legendary super saiyan power they tap in to. I think Kale held back alot especially as true legendary ss cause she wanted to support or fight equal to Caulifla. Broly spent so much more time fighting however being under his father's control. So broly would probably have a hard time achieving true legendary ss cause he lacks so much control. I think his training on beerus planet will lead him to unlock *Ultra Control*
@@bmorebirdsnest92…what? Goku Black had no problem with Zamasu, they both thought that they were the only gods needed. He wasn’t super in love with himself like in the anime is all.
Broly and Kale having similar abilities and transformations makes me hyped for the moment they actually meet. It does seem inevitable at this point, especially with the threat of Frieza to all saiyans, regardless of which universe they come from. Kale even has better control over her super saiyan variant than Broly with his, which could play a role in teaching Broly how to control his own transformations.
What I find the most interesting about Kale and Super Broly as compared to the original Broly is how the original's misconception about his hair color led to the creators playing up the green for the new characters. Originally the greenish hue of Broly's hair was implied to be due to the effects of the mind control crown - by the end of the first Broly movie and right before his final clash with Goku, Broly's hair and aura revert to the traditional Super Saiyan golden. It also remains that way throughout the entirety of the second movie Broly's in. Yet most video games and supplementary media always played up the green in Broly's design, as if to make him stand out more. And so in the designs of Kale and Super Broly, the green hair in their legendary form is a permanent, inherent trait.
I think you're mixed-up bro. The mind control crown thing was about his super saiyan form (the blue hair stuff) not his legendary super saiyan form. In the second movie, you can see his super saiyan form has the traditional Super Saiyan color (no more crown) as when he goes to his legendary super saiyan form it is designed how it is supposed to be and is since the first movie.
@@truthspreader1996 Then why is Broly's hair still initially greenish in the 1st movie and only stops being so towards the end of it? It's got to do with the residual effects of the crown too
@@truthspreader1996 How is that relevant? LSSJ Broly for the majority of Movie 8: Greenish hair LSSJ Broly at the end of Movie 8 and throughout the entirety of Movie 10: Normal golden hair That means the greenish hair color was not meant to be intrinsic to Broly's LSSj form in the original incarnations.
I think if Broly taps into god Ki that he should get the SSJ4 look. Like how UI is Goku’s mastered form. UE is Vegeta’s. Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan. Black Frieza. Now Broly needs a form that’s beyond Legendary SSJ/Berserk.
Actually beast gohan is just a evolved version of ultimate more like ultimate 2 or ultimate at its max similar to ssj and ssj2 which is why it looks like ssj2 but its ultimate plus ozaru power which is why vegeta stated broly and gohan have that same beast ! Becauee they both are able to utilize their ozaru power in their transformation! The only difference is gohan can only fully tap into it when he enters beast where as broly can access it even in base throughout his super saiyan transformation ! I think after broly finally got control of his rage he may not be able to access it within base but more so throughout his transformation! It seems like they want to do multiple teirs to power like Saiyans if they could tap into their ozaru power could compete with gods of destructions and angels
I REALLY want Broly and Kale meet someday. I hope they act like long last siblings. That be cute. If they do fight we have to worry about them killing each other since they aren’t evil.
@@CertainlyCynical Yeah I saw that and it was pretty cool and cute, though I think the writer/artist could have shown a bit more interactions with them. I do love the guy’s art.
feels weird to assume Kale and DBS Broly's transformations are too different, if at all different from each other. I'd like to think of them as using different branches of the same form. Kale gaining self control stunted her power growth, while Broly's inability to control himself allowed his power to continue 'overflowing'. That's my interpretation at least.
It is the same form but from different universes. Broly awakened all forms 1 by 1 where kale unlocked berserker at the start then was able to control it. Broly is way stronger in base when compared to Kale but Broly can't control his power yet...
@@supesisfodder7427 I don’t think it is, Kale’s I think is similar but it’s just different while (Super) Broly combined S.S-J.Grade.1 with Ikari making it (Full-Power) S.S-J.
I feel like it all comes down to the biology. Like how Universe 6 Saiyans evolved beyond the Universe 7 Saiyans where they don't need a tail anymore. And I believe Toriyama said that once Saiyans in Universe 7 get to a certain power level, or they reach Super Saiyan, then they don't need their tail anymore, but Universe 6 Saiyans don't have tails, because they are just that strong. And Kale abing timid and stressed, I feel like really factors in, because there comes a point where she just unleashes all of her feelings, like all of the overwhelming stress, and sadness, and things like that, all pent up deep inside being unhealthy, and when she finally gets it out it like... Overclouds her mind somewhat. I don't know how to put it, but bottom like Kale's biology and mental state I feel like contributes more to her transformation. However, Broly on the other hand, Dragon Ball Super Broly, he has always been fighting, and training, and in his base form he was able to go up against Super Saiyan Vegeta. So Broly *IS* a fighter, or a brawler, but you get my point. And I believe that maybe Broly's... Ability to unlock the Great Ape power in his base form, might contribute to that, because the Great Ape form, some couldn't control it, and others learned to control it, like Vegeta, Nappa, and other Saiyans that we saw conquering worlds, and so... Like, if you want to count GT, Goku actually tapped into the power of the Great Ape and that allowed him to reach Super Saiyan 4. So, by taking these into account, Broly might control his power, but I think that controlling it will be different from mastering it for Broly, because I feel like when Broly masters it, then Broly will be UNSTOPPABLE ! Tell me what you all think.
I always thought LSSJ or SSJ Berserk is a version of Super Saiyan 1 reaching an uncontrolled state leading into Super Saiyan 2 making it sort of a Super Saiyan Grade Infinity hence the bulk up and the different variants in obtaining Super Saiyan 2 from a trigger or training vs. learning to master ki control.
I always saw it as when she mastered her berserker form it was somewhere similar in power to God, keep in mind when Goku had them beat, Kale was practically undamaged before fusion
For years I referred to this transformation as legendary super saiyan or lssj but then I heard that the officially gave the form the name of super saiyan berserker and I thought ya know what that’s a perfect name for it because a berserker is a term as old as the dark ages and it is used to a describe a warrior that fights in an uncontrollable, crazy, and well berserk like state and that’s exactly what this form is a saiyan version of a berserker well done to the guys in the naming department that’s for sure
I personally enjoyed Kale’s performance throughout the ToP. For someone that was frowned upon by the other U6 Saiyans, Kale ended up become the strongest of them all. P.S. the thumbnail looks awesome.
Having female super saiyans was a refreshing change in DBS. I wish the other saiyans weren't so soft though with their power coming from a "tingly feeling in your back" I thought Kale was a nice callback to Broly and the Kefla fusion was SICK especially with the multi colored ki blasts.
The main differences between Z Broly, Super Broly and Kale in this Berserk/Legendary form as I can tell are as follows: Z Broly: Power keeps increasing but clearly has a cap that Broly would need to train in order to get past; given that this boosts him to the point where he can mangle an entire galaxy, he's likely around Buu Saga tier during the Cell Saga (as it's not until that point where we see people being able to destroy things at a larger level than that), and that's just Movie 8 Broly, not Movie 10 (after he got a huge Zenkai boost after getting nearly killed by Goku) Super Broly: Power keeps increasing, no clear cap, and his rate of skill growth is clearly the fastest of the three here Kale: Similar effects to Z Broly, but she's less aware and in control; her Controlled form gets rid of this weakness, though
Kinda wish Broly would've had the ssj4 design since he basically had the oozaru power up in his base form. Would've been a great way to introduce that look from GT
Super Saiyan Berserk, Kale and Broly are my favorite saiyans. Mainly because I like meathead/brute characters. Like an RPG character that pumps the strength and health stats.
Kale definitely gets stronger just like Broly. In the manga Goku stated while fighting her briefly that she was getting stronger. So she does have that power but also the draw backs as well which was that the power was hurting her which caused her to lose in battle in the manga. Kale from the manga and anime are both the same character but with different personalities. Anime Kale she believed she was weak when she really wasnt. Manga Kale she was just hiding her potential from Caulifa. I would love to see Broly and Kale together one day training and what not
Love your content and glad to see a new addition to the transformation guide!! You should totally do the hero transformations!! I would love to learn more about them! Thank you for always putting out great content and looking forward to your next release!
Lol I like how on heros broly can just get angrier and achieve a new form,it literally gives meaning to the word Legendary because he has access to any form😂
Sometimes, just want to turn off brain and watch bodies get ragdoll. The two Broly and Kale does this PERFECTLY and never is boring! Too bad likely not going to happen often.
I like how Kale evolved in the manga compared to how she did it in the anime. Her version of super saiyan and she slowly grows into a hulking super saiyan as she continues to fight. If she didn’t begin to tire out, she might’ve had a chance to push Jiren into fighting seriously. Might not have lasted long, but enough time passes she could knock him off his feet. There really isn’t much of a difference between Kale’s power and Broly’s. She simply had positive support and Broly got it after being tamed by Gogeta.
@@jasonone8726 She doesn’t lose power. She loses stamina. Her power rises faster than her body can handle it. It could be her age or lack of intense training, but that’s why she slowed down in the manga. Broly was fully grown when he tapped into his latent abilities. His stamina didn’t peak because he spent most of his life training. If Goku had limitless energy, technically he could use the kaioken with blue, or use the principles of kaioken to keep getting stronger. The thing is, if his body isn’t prepared to continuously break it’s limits, he’ll wear his body out or kill himself before he can master his new found strength. The same could be said for Kale.
well when you create the character for the sole purpose of paying tribute to the og broly it makes sense they would share a lot of similarities thats literally the only reason she exists
Another thing that’s different between Kale and Broly is that Broly tuned super saying with the yellow hair in the DBS Broly movie and then when fighting Gogeta in that little pocket dimension, he turns into the green haired form, where as Kale never achieved the yellow haired form.
Also I always referred to the green haired form as true super saying because of how Vegeta described it in the anime during the tournament of power, and I like to think of Kale was just in a controlled version of True Super sayian and not super sayian 2. I think that makes more sense.
I like to think of this form as a genetic mutation. Little was known about Super Saiyans until recently thanks to Goku, but before, it was only considered a legend, so no actual living Saiyan could see these forms or any variants. With the concept of genetic mutation, this Super Saiyan Berserk form can only be truly expressed so long as both mother and father carry the gene and have offsprings to activate it as a dominant gene, but the likelihood of a Saiyan truly inheriting such a trait would be incredibly rare, and perhaps the likelihood of an infant surviving with all this immense power increases the gene’s rarity even more. It could explain why such a unique and primal form of the Super Saiyan would appear every 1,000 years. But of course, it needs to be triggered, like in Broly’s case (DBS Version), traumatized to the sight of his Father’s death.
5:32 It's easy to forget because of his eyes being blank, but people need to realize that Broly's Wrath power was active for the entire battle. Even against Gogeta. Broly' was already getting stronger prior to becoming a Super Saiyan.
Geekdom appreciation post Keep up the good work brotha man. Youve become part of the whole dragon ball fandom experience 😤✊🏾 always looking forward to the next upload
It seems like Kale is more powerful in the 2nd form but against the pride troopers when she runs out of energy she reverts back to berserker for the ki regeneration so the form has it's hax
I really enjoy kale actually I just think we need to see more of here xenoverse 2 actually had some Parallel quest that showed more of her personality.
I don't know if you have made a video explaining all the dragonball timelines within the show, but I think that would make a good video that only you can pull off.
Actually, there _is_ *technically* a time where Z Broly achieved Super Saiyan 2, as it was debuted (and had its only appearance) in the Dragon Ball Kai: Miracle Battle Card game. It, surprisingly, hasn’t even reappeared in Heroes yet. I’d REALLY like that if Broly comes with Goku and Vegeta to Planet Sadala (whenever that may happen), that Broly meets Kale and Goku mentions something about the two “having a similar air” to each other, with them both being calm when under normal circumstances, and both going primal under extremely stressful situations!
I believe that the term "Super Saiyan 2" of that transformation refers only to the Legendary Super Saiyan, a case similar to what happened with Kale's Berserker form, which on some occasions has been named Super Saiyan 2. That's why there is no Broly Super Saiyan 2 in Heroes, simply because the Legendary Super Saiyan already fills that role.
@@tomasjoelinsfran2745 But like I said, the Dragon Ball Kai: Miracle Battle Carddass specifically calls Broly’s form as a Legendary Super Saiyan but so the spiky hair as “Super Saiyan 2 Broly,” since there’s already another card of Legendary Super Saiyan Broly in that card game, and while that card is labeled as “Super Saiyan Broly” as well, there is _another_ card that is called “Super Saiyan Broly” that has his normal, non-buff Super Saiyan form.
It would be pretty cool if Broly goes to train with Kale and have her teach him how to master the berserker form. Regardless, I think we all agree a universe 6 arc is inevitable ay this point.
My main question, (before actually watching the video) is “is Super Saiyan Berserker another name and/or type of Legendary Super Saiyan?” Because if not, that’s really fucking stupid in my eyes…green powerd-up hair, equals Legendary Super Saiyan
Kale is already U6’s strongest Saiyan and Caulifla is kinda like a younger Vegeta girl. They are a few fanfics were Kale is sometimes King Sadala’s daughter and in Ultra Vegito Caulifla is.
I always saw Kale's "super saiyan 2 form" as a suppressed version of her berserker Saiyan form. Makes sense, if you can't control all that power don't use all that power.
super saiyan seems to be able to evolve as much as needed, as such i would prefer kale and broly get there own forms as they seem to be mutants, so i think having them adapt to powers like god-ki and such differently while keeping some of that green aesthetic would work well. i also agree that the two of them are not quite the same on a biological level cas they are from different universes on top of being mutants of their own species so i'd like it if they went a bit crazy with their forms in the future to keep things interesting
I think that both Broly and Kale are legendary super saiyans in their own universe Edit: I also think that legendary super saiyans have there own forms for each stage like there’s super saiyan 1 2 3 then there’s legendary super saiyan 1 2 3 And one last thing now hear me out when Broly learns to control his forms it will be Goku = Ultra Instinct Vegeta = Ultra Ego Broly = Ultra Anger
I kind of hope Broly gets his own unique thing like Goku with Ultra Instinct and Vegeta with Ultra Ego. I hope it's like a perfected Super Saiyan form that's something only he can do.
Also Kefla actually uses this form which makes more sense as to why she is so strong. She is a fusion of arguably powerful saiyans (compared to most characters in the series) which is already insane, but she uses this inasne form on top of that. Base Kale got from being fodder to krillin lv characters, to actually fighting ssj goku and beyond. The multiplier of the form is massive. And on top of all that , she uses ssj2 version of that form. Who knows whats the multiplier for that form compared to 1st form. This is why Kefla was insanely strong up until that point. And its weird how people did not udnerstand that. Its so simple
Something you forgot is that in the manga she can fight in her base form unlike the anime. She just doesn't fight because she doesn't wanna outshine caulifla even though she's much stronger than caulifla
She was super fast in base form
Manga Kale and Anime Kale are two very different characters.
@@mechajay3358 just like how goku black didn't like zamasu in the manga but in the anime they were BFFs
YES! I think alot of what geekdom mentioned as differences can be attributed merely to the differences of Kale and Broly and how they were raised and NOT a difference in the legendary super saiyan power they tap in to. I think Kale held back alot especially as true legendary ss cause she wanted to support or fight equal to Caulifla. Broly spent so much more time fighting however being under his father's control. So broly would probably have a hard time achieving true legendary ss cause he lacks so much control. I think his training on beerus planet will lead him to unlock *Ultra Control*
@@bmorebirdsnest92…what? Goku Black had no problem with Zamasu, they both thought that they were the only gods needed. He wasn’t super in love with himself like in the anime is all.
Broly and Kale having similar abilities and transformations makes me hyped for the moment they actually meet. It does seem inevitable at this point, especially with the threat of Frieza to all saiyans, regardless of which universe they come from. Kale even has better control over her super saiyan variant than Broly with his, which could play a role in teaching Broly how to control his own transformations.
What I find the most interesting about Kale and Super Broly as compared to the original Broly is how the original's misconception about his hair color led to the creators playing up the green for the new characters. Originally the greenish hue of Broly's hair was implied to be due to the effects of the mind control crown - by the end of the first Broly movie and right before his final clash with Goku, Broly's hair and aura revert to the traditional Super Saiyan golden. It also remains that way throughout the entirety of the second movie Broly's in. Yet most video games and supplementary media always played up the green in Broly's design, as if to make him stand out more. And so in the designs of Kale and Super Broly, the green hair in their legendary form is a permanent, inherent trait.
I think you're mixed-up bro.
The mind control crown thing was about his super saiyan form (the blue hair stuff) not his legendary super saiyan form.
In the second movie, you can see his super saiyan form has the traditional Super Saiyan color (no more crown) as when he goes to his legendary super saiyan form it is designed how it is supposed to be and is since the first movie.
@@truthspreader1996 Then why is Broly's hair still initially greenish in the 1st movie and only stops being so towards the end of it? It's got to do with the residual effects of the crown too
@@SaturnineXTS Are you aware of super saiyan and legendary super saiyan are two different form?
@@truthspreader1996 How is that relevant?
LSSJ Broly for the majority of Movie 8: Greenish hair
LSSJ Broly at the end of Movie 8 and throughout the entirety of Movie 10: Normal golden hair
That means the greenish hair color was not meant to be intrinsic to Broly's LSSj form in the original incarnations.
@@SaturnineXTS Okay, I concede.
Your statements seem to hold true.
I think if Broly taps into god Ki that he should get the SSJ4 look. Like how UI is Goku’s mastered form. UE is Vegeta’s. Orange Piccolo, Beast Gohan. Black Frieza. Now Broly needs a form that’s beyond Legendary SSJ/Berserk.
I actually respect that idea a lot! It would be interesting to get an SS4-looking god ki Broly. It makes sense too
Actually beast gohan is just a evolved version of ultimate more like ultimate 2 or ultimate at its max similar to ssj and ssj2 which is why it looks like ssj2 but its ultimate plus ozaru power which is why vegeta stated broly and gohan have that same beast ! Becauee they both are able to utilize their ozaru power in their transformation!
The only difference is gohan can only fully tap into it when he enters beast where as broly can access it even in base throughout his super saiyan transformation !
I think after broly finally got control of his rage he may not be able to access it within base but more so throughout his transformation!
It seems like they want to do multiple teirs to power like
Saiyans if they could tap into their ozaru power could compete with gods of destructions and angels
I REALLY want Broly and Kale meet someday. I hope they act like long last siblings. That be cute. If they do fight we have to worry about them killing each other since they aren’t evil.
They meet in db kakumei. The art is great there!
@@CertainlyCynical Yeah I saw that and it was pretty cool and cute, though I think the writer/artist could have shown a bit more interactions with them. I do love the guy’s art.
A fusion of them would literally break the power scale, be kinda funny on what they would look like being a male and female fusion
@@StevenP727 Not going lie… kinda wanna see it!
@@StevenP727 1 breast and one ball
feels weird to assume Kale and DBS Broly's transformations are too different, if at all different from each other. I'd like to think of them as using different branches of the same form. Kale gaining self control stunted her power growth, while Broly's inability to control himself allowed his power to continue 'overflowing'. That's my interpretation at least.
It’s literally the same form
Legendary ssj
I wish they would just confirm it being the same form so we don’t have a million different super saiyan forms for no reason
It is the same form but from different universes. Broly awakened all forms 1 by 1 where kale unlocked berserker at the start then was able to control it. Broly is way stronger in base when compared to Kale but Broly can't control his power yet...
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I don’t think it is, Kale’s I think is similar but it’s just different while (Super) Broly combined S.S-J.Grade.1 with Ikari making it (Full-Power) S.S-J.
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I don’t think so, (Full-Power) S.S-J is a combo of S.S-J.Grade.1 with Ikari (I think?) while Kale went straight to Breserk.
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I cant believe they introduced a Male Kale and he got his own Movie after she showed up in the TOP
Are you a bot ?
@@LegendGTC are you? It's clearly a joke.
@@styx5318 shit wasn’t funny lil bro
@@jamespain2138 it is funny
Typical male patriarchal society gotta make two strong women into one male xD
Can't wait for super back on tv
I feel like it all comes down to the biology.
Like how Universe 6 Saiyans evolved beyond the Universe 7 Saiyans where they don't need a tail anymore. And I believe Toriyama said that once Saiyans in Universe 7 get to a certain power level, or they reach Super Saiyan, then they don't need their tail anymore, but Universe 6 Saiyans don't have tails, because they are just that strong. And Kale abing timid and stressed, I feel like really factors in, because there comes a point where she just unleashes all of her feelings, like all of the overwhelming stress, and sadness, and things like that, all pent up deep inside being unhealthy, and when she finally gets it out it like... Overclouds her mind somewhat. I don't know how to put it, but bottom like Kale's biology and mental state I feel like contributes more to her transformation. However, Broly on the other hand, Dragon Ball Super Broly, he has always been fighting, and training, and in his base form he was able to go up against Super Saiyan Vegeta. So Broly *IS* a fighter, or a brawler, but you get my point. And I believe that maybe Broly's... Ability to unlock the Great Ape power in his base form, might contribute to that, because the Great Ape form, some couldn't control it, and others learned to control it, like Vegeta, Nappa, and other Saiyans that we saw conquering worlds, and so... Like, if you want to count GT, Goku actually tapped into the power of the Great Ape and that allowed him to reach Super Saiyan 4. So, by taking these into account, Broly might control his power, but I think that controlling it will be different from mastering it for Broly, because I feel like when Broly masters it, then Broly will be UNSTOPPABLE !
Tell me what you all think.
Kale is kinda like Vegeta in regard on how they got SSJ by self-loathing and feeling inadequate compared to their peers.
I always thought LSSJ or SSJ Berserk is a version of Super Saiyan 1 reaching an uncontrolled state leading into Super Saiyan 2 making it sort of a Super Saiyan Grade Infinity hence the bulk up and the different variants in obtaining Super Saiyan 2 from a trigger or training vs. learning to master ki control.
I always saw it as when she mastered her berserker form it was somewhere similar in power to God, keep in mind when Goku had them beat, Kale was practically undamaged before fusion
For years I referred to this transformation as legendary super saiyan or lssj but then I heard that the officially gave the form the name of super saiyan berserker and I thought ya know what that’s a perfect name for it because a berserker is a term as old as the dark ages and it is used to a describe a warrior that fights in an uncontrollable, crazy, and well berserk like state and that’s exactly what this form is a saiyan version of a berserker well done to the guys in the naming department that’s for sure
I personally enjoyed Kale’s performance throughout the ToP. For someone that was frowned upon by the other U6 Saiyans, Kale ended up become the strongest of them all.
P.S. the thumbnail looks awesome.
Nice pfp
Love your channel, best DB content on UA-cam! Keep em coming!
Super introduced so many characters I want see again universe 6 sayians, Hit, Jiren, broly, toppo etc
I still can't wait for super saiyan blue evolution, keep up the great work geekdom, I enjoy your videos, you give a really great explanation. 😃😃
Having female super saiyans was a refreshing change in DBS. I wish the other saiyans weren't so soft though with their power coming from a "tingly feeling in your back"
I thought Kale was a nice callback to Broly and the Kefla fusion was SICK especially with the multi colored ki blasts.
That was only caulifla
The main differences between Z Broly, Super Broly and Kale in this Berserk/Legendary form as I can tell are as follows:
Z Broly: Power keeps increasing but clearly has a cap that Broly would need to train in order to get past; given that this boosts him to the point where he can mangle an entire galaxy, he's likely around Buu Saga tier during the Cell Saga (as it's not until that point where we see people being able to destroy things at a larger level than that), and that's just Movie 8 Broly, not Movie 10 (after he got a huge Zenkai boost after getting nearly killed by Goku)
Super Broly: Power keeps increasing, no clear cap, and his rate of skill growth is clearly the fastest of the three here
Kale: Similar effects to Z Broly, but she's less aware and in control; her Controlled form gets rid of this weakness, though
They are the same form
I really hope there is more videos on the transformation guide
Kinda wish Broly would've had the ssj4 design since he basically had the oozaru power up in his base form. Would've been a great way to introduce that look from GT
All I know is that this Power is MAXIMUM!
And it's OVERFLOWING.
MAXIMUMER
Awhhh!!!! He so cool
Goku:Prove It!
Love eating my Saturday morning breakfast while watching new vids for the Transformation Guide playlist 😎
I would love to see you cover transformations from hero’s. I’m curious and wanna know more!!
Ps. Love the content!
Super Saiyan Berserk, Kale and Broly are my favorite saiyans.
Mainly because I like meathead/brute characters. Like an RPG character that pumps the strength and health stats.
Kale definitely gets stronger just like Broly. In the manga Goku stated while fighting her briefly that she was getting stronger. So she does have that power but also the draw backs as well which was that the power was hurting her which caused her to lose in battle in the manga. Kale from the manga and anime are both the same character but with different personalities. Anime Kale she believed she was weak when she really wasnt. Manga Kale she was just hiding her potential from Caulifa. I would love to see Broly and Kale together one day training and what not
Love your content and glad to see a new addition to the transformation guide!! You should totally do the hero transformations!! I would love to learn more about them! Thank you for always putting out great content and looking forward to your next release!
Lol I like how on heros broly can just get angrier and achieve a new form,it literally gives meaning to the word Legendary because he has access to any form😂
Awesome
I don't care what others say.. I loved Kefla, Caulifla, Kale and Cabba 🔥
Sale
Same
Sometimes, just want to turn off brain and watch bodies get ragdoll.
The two Broly and Kale does this PERFECTLY and never is boring! Too bad likely not going to happen often.
Great video
I like how Kale evolved in the manga compared to how she did it in the anime. Her version of super saiyan and she slowly grows into a hulking super saiyan as she continues to fight. If she didn’t begin to tire out, she might’ve had a chance to push Jiren into fighting seriously. Might not have lasted long, but enough time passes she could knock him off his feet. There really isn’t much of a difference between Kale’s power and Broly’s. She simply had positive support and Broly got it after being tamed by Gogeta.
@@jasonone8726 She doesn’t lose power. She loses stamina. Her power rises faster than her body can handle it. It could be her age or lack of intense training, but that’s why she slowed down in the manga. Broly was fully grown when he tapped into his latent abilities. His stamina didn’t peak because he spent most of his life training.
If Goku had limitless energy, technically he could use the kaioken with blue, or use the principles of kaioken to keep getting stronger. The thing is, if his body isn’t prepared to continuously break it’s limits, he’ll wear his body out or kill himself before he can master his new found strength. The same could be said for Kale.
She's also similar to Broly due to her earrings, gauntlets & boots.
well when you create the character for the sole purpose of paying tribute to the og broly it makes sense they would share a lot of similarities thats literally the only reason she exists
Another thing that’s different between Kale and Broly is that Broly tuned super saying with the yellow hair in the DBS Broly movie and then when fighting Gogeta in that little pocket dimension, he turns into the green haired form, where as Kale never achieved the yellow haired form.
Also I always referred to the green haired form as true super saying because of how Vegeta described it in the anime during the tournament of power, and I like to think of Kale was just in a controlled version of True Super sayian and not super sayian 2. I think that makes more sense.
Kale achieved the yellow haired form too, but after the green haired form
I like to think of this form as a genetic mutation.
Little was known about Super Saiyans until recently thanks to Goku, but before, it was only considered a legend, so no actual living Saiyan could see these forms or any variants.
With the concept of genetic mutation, this Super Saiyan Berserk form can only be truly expressed so long as both mother and father carry the gene and have offsprings to activate it as a dominant gene, but the likelihood of a Saiyan truly inheriting such a trait would be incredibly rare, and perhaps the likelihood of an infant surviving with all this immense power increases the gene’s rarity even more.
It could explain why such a unique and primal form of the Super Saiyan would appear every 1,000 years. But of course, it needs to be triggered, like in Broly’s case (DBS Version), traumatized to the sight of his Father’s death.
5:32 It's easy to forget because of his eyes being blank, but people need to realize that Broly's Wrath power was active for the entire battle. Even against Gogeta. Broly' was already getting stronger prior to becoming a Super Saiyan.
That’s funny I was just listening to the Broly movie music 90s then this popped up
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Super Saiyan Berserk
Super Saiyan Rage
Legendary Super Saiyan
They all look so similar
Would it be cool for them to have Kales mom be Spinara (Spinach) but instead of being like paragus she's really nice and helps Kale control the power
Her power is MAXIMUMER!!!
Kinda funny thinking how Broly is about Goku’s age or maybe a little older but his appearance and personality makes him seem super young
It seems like Kale is more powerful in the 2nd form but against the pride troopers when she runs out of energy she reverts back to berserker for the ki regeneration so the form has it's hax
I like the direction of unique forms.
Kale is just like Broly in DBS, when uncontrolled, she literally becomes OP.
Kale and Broly that would be cool to see maybe they would have them both in the 3rd Dragonball super film going against Frieza cooler.
Broly film was the third Super film.
I really enjoy kale actually I just think we need to see more of here xenoverse 2 actually had some Parallel quest that showed more of her personality.
Yeah Kale just needs more spotlight with her being more independent. With how she's portrayed already in XenoVerse 2 she's pretty great
Kale is awesome. i love her design
I agree. I love her design too
Supersonic Warriors 2 was soooo much fun back then!!!!
Good times!
I don't know if you have made a video explaining all the dragonball timelines within the show, but I think that would make a good video that only you can pull off.
Crazy how both Kale and DBS Broly absolutely manhandle Goku
Lil Gohan ssj with uncut hair looks so cool
Kale and Broly fusion would be OP af lol
Actually, there _is_ *technically* a time where Z Broly achieved Super Saiyan 2, as it was debuted (and had its only appearance) in the Dragon Ball Kai: Miracle Battle Card game. It, surprisingly, hasn’t even reappeared in Heroes yet. I’d REALLY like that if Broly comes with Goku and Vegeta to Planet Sadala (whenever that may happen), that Broly meets Kale and Goku mentions something about the two “having a similar air” to each other, with them both being calm when under normal circumstances, and both going primal under extremely stressful situations!
I believe that the term "Super Saiyan 2" of that transformation refers only to the Legendary Super Saiyan, a case similar to what happened with Kale's Berserker form, which on some occasions has been named Super Saiyan 2.
That's why there is no Broly Super Saiyan 2 in Heroes, simply because the Legendary Super Saiyan already fills that role.
@@tomasjoelinsfran2745 But like I said, the Dragon Ball Kai: Miracle Battle Carddass specifically calls Broly’s form as a Legendary Super Saiyan but so the spiky hair as “Super Saiyan 2 Broly,” since there’s already another card of Legendary Super Saiyan Broly in that card game, and while that card is labeled as “Super Saiyan Broly” as well, there is _another_ card that is called “Super Saiyan Broly” that has his normal, non-buff Super Saiyan form.
10:05-10:13 Very much like Bruce Banner and The Hulk.
Awesome!
Manga did the form more justice than the anime
It would be pretty cool if Broly goes to train with Kale and have her teach him how to master the berserker form. Regardless, I think we all agree a universe 6 arc is inevitable ay this point.
I WOULD BE SO HAPPY IF YOU DID A LIMIT BREAKER EXPLAINED
Bro you should do one on orange piccolo or Gohan beast.
My main question, (before actually watching the video) is “is Super Saiyan Berserker another name and/or type of Legendary Super Saiyan?” Because if not, that’s really fucking stupid in my eyes…green powerd-up hair, equals Legendary Super Saiyan
Hope we get princess of all saiyan female version of vegeta in universe 6?
Kale is already U6’s strongest Saiyan and Caulifla is kinda like a younger Vegeta girl. They are a few fanfics were Kale is sometimes King Sadala’s daughter and in Ultra Vegito Caulifla is.
I always saw Kale's "super saiyan 2 form" as a suppressed version of her berserker Saiyan form. Makes sense, if you can't control all that power don't use all that power.
You need to do an ultimate gohan transformation guide
Do a transformation guide on Super Rose 3 Goku black, ssjb gogeta evolution and some others
You should do a video on Anne’s Super Saiyan Blue transformation.
Awesome sauce
Please do Super Saiyan 4 Limit Breaker explained please!!!!!
It’s interesting that they’re not the same form both legendary and berserker but they are close to Reedley related to each other if that makes sense
Berserks are my favorite
YES
Nice
BERSERK KALE IS MOMMY KALE DOMINATE ME MOMMY KALE!
Yes please 🙏
🤨📸
super saiyan seems to be able to evolve as much as needed, as such i would prefer kale and broly get there own forms as they seem to be mutants, so i think having them adapt to powers like god-ki and such differently while keeping some of that green aesthetic would work well. i also agree that the two of them are not quite the same on a biological level cas they are from different universes on top of being mutants of their own species so i'd like it if they went a bit crazy with their forms in the future to keep things interesting
Personally I rather they have Kale drop the green from any potential higher forms
Finally!
Yes you definitely should do the transformations in db heroes, that would make this series of yours to on even longer
I call everything the "Toriyama Universe" just easier that way
Can’t wait for the vegeta one
I think that both Broly and Kale are legendary super saiyans in their own universe
Edit: I also think that legendary super saiyans have there own forms for each stage like there’s super saiyan 1 2 3 then there’s legendary super saiyan 1 2 3
And one last thing now hear me out when Broly learns to control his forms it will be
Goku = Ultra Instinct
Vegeta = Ultra Ego
Broly = Ultra Anger
you lost me at the ultra anger part lol
Could you make a super Saiyan rose 2 and 3 as an transformation guide please
Would love too see videos about the sdbh transformation
I mean I'm just gonna say it. Yes do heroes in the transformation guide please
Super Saiyan Berserk: Kale's version of the Legendary Super Saiyan
It’s just legendary ssj
Brought many new hair dyes lol. Still love the show
“KAAAAKKKAAAAROOOOTTTT”
-Broly
Make one one the hero forms but we need beast Gohan if you haven’t done it yet
Almost certain that is fake lmao
I kind of hope Broly gets his own unique thing like Goku with Ultra Instinct and Vegeta with Ultra Ego. I hope it's like a perfected Super Saiyan form that's something only he can do.
Also Kefla actually uses this form which makes more sense as to why she is so strong. She is a fusion of arguably powerful saiyans (compared to most characters in the series) which is already insane, but she uses this inasne form on top of that. Base Kale got from being fodder to krillin lv characters, to actually fighting ssj goku and beyond. The multiplier of the form is massive. And on top of all that , she uses ssj2 version of that form. Who knows whats the multiplier for that form compared to 1st form. This is why Kefla was insanely strong up until that point. And its weird how people did not udnerstand that. Its so simple
No
Goku was holding back tho lol
Please do limit breaker super saiyan 4 next its so underrated
Legendary Super Saiyan 2 - seems to be the idea of what it is, I think.
im curious why kale never met broly and spared with their berserk phases
IMAGINE THAT
Please do mastered ultra instinctes
Can you please do a transformation guide on ssj4 limit breaker on sdbh people are having confusion over it
Bro do a transformation guide for Dragon Ball AF 😉
Could the UI Transformation go berserk ?
sign maybe, from what we’ve seen with TUI goku, he’s allowed to be emotional in that state. Definitely not mui though.
I came simply to refresh my memory
the manga called her a demonic legendary super saiyan
Hopefully one day Kale and Broly will square off against each other