Russia's Heavy Aircraft Carrying Cruiser Kuznetsov
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- Опубліковано 29 лис 2022
- The Soviet era aircraft carrier that still serves today...albeit from a dry dock. Wait till you hear the crazy story of hull 2...
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Kuznetsov, the most advanced ship ever made to help Navy tug boats train.
Well Done …!
It definitely is now after all that smoke coming off it...
Woof...
She will make a fine reef soon!
Mazut burner
There's a saying among sailors in the Red fleet: "If you misbehave, you'll end up on the Kuznetsov"
I've read that a contributing factor to Kuznetsov's unreliableness was that she was (and maybe still is) unable to receive external power at her home port. As such she must constantly run a few boilers while at dock. This inevitably eats into the service life of the boilers and leads to failures.
is. and most of her toilets don't work. really.
Yep, she has essentially been in service the whole time at idle and it has been hellish to maintain a ship treated that way.
Even if their country wasn't corrupt and the union didn't collapse she would have needed extra tlc
@@QuizmasterLaw Thought that was what the poopdeck was for....😆
Kuznetsov was constructed in my home city of Nikolaev, not in Crimea. There are 3 shipyards in the city, but only one Black Sea shipyard has the capability to build such a big and complex ship.
Aaron simply missed that Nikolaev is not in Crimea... :cD
Soviet Union ; everyone happy
@@prasakmanitou4925 Also seemed to miss that Crimea is not in Russia 😒
Also "Nikolaev" is the russian name for the city. In Ukrainian it's Mykolaiv
@@Hairysteed 1988 = Soviet union = Nikolaev... Today, Mykolaiv's dockyards (for Kuznetzov) are believed to be the (millitarily) goal of invasion... Crimea is already in Russian hands.
Did you know putin invaded Ukraine for the 70.8 trillion cubic feet of natural gas discovered in 2010? And the oil fields, nothing to do with Nazis or bufferzones.
Considering how big a Flanker is, being able to carry 32 of those plus no less than 24 helis is impressive
i'm assuming some of those are stowed as parts/spares/repairs i've always seen this represented as operating an air complement of around 40 a/c, even as few as 32 -- not 56.
It isn't, kuznetsov-class (Liaoning and Shandong included) don't carry 32/36 fixed wing + 24 rotary wing aircraft.
The *max* is a combination of 24 fixed wing su-33/J-15 and 12 helicopters for a 'not so surged' total of 36 aircraft. You can squeeze some more fixed-wing 'or' rotary-wing at the expense of the other. The maximum number of aircraft on board (at surge) is no more than 40.
This particular video of @SubBrief has several inaccuracies.
if it manages to sail :)
How many would've fit in had they not add the VLS? That thing is 70 ft long, bigger than the Tomcat.
@@Joshua_N-A you can answer it by comparing Liaoning's complement to Kuznetzov
The story about acquiring the ex-Varyag/Liaoning makes sense to me. The PRC government probably convinced a wealthy individual to purchase it as a front man and the government would reimburse him. The guy then probably tried to up the price to the PRC government at the last minute, thinking that he could make some extra profit. I imagine that he really thought he held all the cards in the negotiation, right up to the point where they arrested him.
_"Crimea, Russia"_
[Everyone hated that]
Also easily proven false. Crimea was part of the Ukrainian SSR at the time, having been transferred in 1954. Furthermore, the Black Sea shipyard wasn’t even in Crimea. It was in Mykolaiv, mainland Ukraine. Very bad error.
@@stupidburp And who was Crimea transferred from in 1954? The RSFSR perhaps?
You never know when you might need a quick tug at sea.
you....oh, you...
lmfao. most underrated comment lol
always turned me off the idea of hot bunking btw.
A few notes about Liaoning:
- The J-15 was not grounded for engine issues. It uses the same AL-31F engines as the base Su-27. The aircraft was grounded because the flight control system caused multiple uncommanded pitch-up incidents that killed a couple test pilots. This was due to it being the first FBW aircraft the Chinese developed indigenously - the original Su-27/J-11 was not FBW, and the J-10 and Su-30MKK had their flight control systems developed by IAI and Sukhoi respectively.
- One of Liaoning’s steam mains ruptured during sea trials in 2014. This and other testing incidents caused the ship to not be accepted for years as the plant was continually modified to fix the flaws found, which is why the PLAN did not officially certify her for service until 2018. We know this because of Sun Bo, a senior engineer at Dalian who passed on details of Liaoning’s refit and shakedown process to the CIA - he has, of course, vanished since the CCP found out about it.
- Liaoning has a half-sister, Shandong, that commissioned in 2020. So far neither ship has experienced any at-sea engine casualties (and we would know of them since they’re always tailed), so whatever the Chinese did, it seems to have worked.
- The JMSDF reported that Liaoning was averaging 300 sorties/week during her 2021 deployment, during the entirety of which at least one Japanese warship shadowed them. That works out to about 42/day, which is pretty normal for a STOBAR or STOVL carrier, and nothing compared to a Nimitz (which does 100/day all the time) but is downright amazing when you consider Kuznetsov did 420 sorties over 4 months - about 4 sorties/day.
It really showcases the importance of the organization behind the military. Poor old Kuznetsov never had a chance in hell, coming online just as the Soviet Union was fully collapsing into the decay that would consume it, and spending its entire service life in service to a country that basically subsisted on stripping the copper out of the walls the Soviets built. As godawful as the Chinese are in any number of areas I could care to name, they APPEAR to have aggressively worked to keep a handle on that kind of corruption, both based on their own statements (which could be completely full of it) and the real-world situation those actions created (which are a lot harder to fake when under this kind of scrutiny).
The results speak for themselves. While not a _supercarrier,_ the Liaoning appears to have turned into an entirely functional modern fleet carrier, while the Kuznetsov may never sail again. A dire, cautionary tale for navies around the world in the modern day.
Just, y'know. Not so much the part about throwing a private citizen under the bus as part of the acquisition.
I have heard that they never used shore ties while in port and remained on ships power. Over a short period of time they racked up huge a huge amount of hours on the equipment without doing cold maintenance on the systems.
Correction: The US *never* gave aid or support for IS in Syria or any other area. The US supported a third faction(SDF) which advocated for establishing a secular democratic regime in Syria which was opposed to both the Assad government and IS. In fact, at that same time coalition forces including US, British and French troop were fighting IS forces in western Iraq, assisting the IDF as requested by the Iraqi government.
Jive Turkey went full russian troll mode here.
Granted, Syria is a huge mess of different factions all fighting each other. Basically there's the Assad dictatorship backed by Russia, The SDF, which are backed by the US. US and the west also backs the Kurds' fight against ISIS, but Turkey - a NATO country - keeps fighting the Kurds. Then there's the ISIS and Al-Nusra, which are wahhabists like the Saudis, although Saudis deny supporting them.
I was about to point out the very same thing. Also, the Russian support for Assad began after USA et all got involved.
Cope. The CIA set up a cover operation so it wasn't quite so obvious what America was up to. America/Israel are the creators and sustainers of IS.
Glowies all over these comments boys, be aware. Jive is a Russian troll? Are you even trying, Agent McGrady?
@@georgelincolnrockwell14 I'm honestly dumbfounded as to how idiotic your comment is. Congrats. The thing with conspiracy theories this absurd is they are truly so mind numbingly moronic that even beginning to attempt to understand the reasoning one would need to believe such lunacy is incomprehensible to anyone with a modicum of knowledge on the subject matter.
14:25 About the MIG-29: "the indian navy, they love this plane". Come on Aron! This is some over the top BS right here!
I was stationed on the Spruance class Destroyer USS Deyo, DD-989. Near the end of our 3-91 Med deployment, this was in November, the Russian Navy decided to move their carrier, Admiral Kuznetsov, from the Black Sea, out of the Med and up to join their Northern Fleet. We were supposed to head out with the battle group, but were tasked to stay behind and 'escort' the Kuznetsov out of the Med. They didn't even have an airwing on board, since it was only a homeport move for them. Since we were an 'OUTBOARD'(Organizational Unit Tactical Baseline Operational Area Radio Detection Countermeasures Exploitation System) equipped ship, the Navy decided we should tag along and do our thing, which is monitor, record and classify any electronic signals etc.
The Kuznetsov wasn't smoking like she does now, she was pretty new at the time. During the move, I managed to get a couple of photos. Also with Kuznestsov was the Krivak II Pytlivyy, 808. At one point, the Russian Krivak put a floating package in the water. We fished it out and it was wrapped in some plastic and newspaper and contained a bottle of wine, some ships hats and stuff like that. We in turn put together a package for them to pick up. I think it had some ships hats, some zippo lighters with the ships image on it, some fruit, stuff like that. Once they left the Med we caught up with our battle group to complete the transit back to Charleston, we got back on 21 Dec 1991.
Kind of surprised you didn’t cover Shandong (Type 002) as well, considering she is a subclass of this design.
Also, I’m surprised you never covered Kuznetsov’s infamous “catacombs”: her lower levels were essentially abandoned for most of the 1990s and never repaired, which contributes in large part to her continual propulsion failures.
the idea of ``abandoning`` lower levels is shocking from a western point of view, if someone had claimed that to me from any other ship i`d assume it was in mothballs, but hardly any surprise from the ruskies. considering they sent a vessel to war with 1/8 as many fire extinguishers she was meant to be fitted with.
SO interested in this now.
Type 002 is so different from Kuznetzov. The interior had been completely redesigned, from hangar layout to even the support structures. That’s also why 002 can carry 36 fighters compared to 001’s 24
it's the same hull but i expect the electronics and probably CIWS are totally different
@@thomaszhang3101 The majority of Shandong's structure and HM&E is, according to what few photos we have of both ships, shared with Liaoning, and by extension Kuznetsov. Her island is smaller and her sponsons are enlarged, but footage from press video taken aboard the ship also doesn't seem to suggest the hangar is any longer than that of Liaoning/Kuznetsov. There has also been no mention of her machinery being any different from Liaoning's, or, at least, from Liaoning's plant after her steaming issues were fixed. Calling her a sister ship of Kuznetsov and Liaoning is not a stretch at all, and especially not so when considering how many differences there are between sister ships of most aircraft carrier classes: compare Vikramaditya (even when she was Baku in Soviet service) with the other Kiev-classes for instance.
I have also never seen any indication Shandong can carry 36 J-15s unless she dumps her normal helicopter compliment. The more common figure I've seen is an air wing of 28-32 J-15s, for a total of 45 aircraft when you include helicopters. That is still a significant improvement over Liaoning, especially in strike power, considering the basic hull and dimensions are the same, and I suspect the reason she can only field 5 more aircraft but can field up to 8 more fighters is because the former missile VLS was converted to shops and repair space for J-15s.
For "The Hunt for Red October" (novel) fans, there was an error where the Forger was said to be Yak-36. It should be Yak38 as mentioned in the video
Do you think Russia should've gone with the STOVL route and put out more Kiev-class like designs? For some reason I see the Freestyle as an indicator for that.
@@Joshua_N-A in hindsight,.probably. you can now get cheaper aircraft carriers and a STOVL can turn even a small clearing in the forest into a fighter jet base.
Or as I would call it, "airstrip extension for ports, with sea-based mobility option (availability limited)"
Dlc
in syria it isn't just two factions, last i'd checked islamic state is a pretty small one. the others are various other rebels and extremist groups. ALL of them are fighting against the islamic state - the rebels, syrians, americans and russians.
The 30mm GSh-30-1 cannon with its 150 rounds firing at 1800 RPM is enough for exactly as much firing time as the M61A1 with its 500 rounds firing at 6000 RPM - five seconds.
150*60/1800=5
500*60/6000=5
Then again, a five second-burst from a GSh-30-1 is impossible because firing a burst of longer than 100 rounds destroys the barrel.
Nice math, pretty funny too!
Hull 2 is an amazing story. I bet it could be a movie.
I’m sure the radar reflective material was very effective at hiding the giant trail of black smoke.
Good thing black smoke is invisible to radar. 😜 Clearly it’s the RAM
The official name of the ship is Heavy Missile Carrying Battlecruiser Admiral of the seas Kuznetsov. It is the world's most heavily armed aircraft carrier.
They were built in Mykolaiv or Nikolaev not the Crimea . It was I believe the only shipyard in the Soviet Union that could build that large a ship , built their Cruisers there as well.
In the Current conflict Russia made it to the outskirts of Mykolaiv and I imagine it is something Putin wanted as the Shipyards are still there and Russia doesn't have any of its own large enough to build Carriers or other large warships in.. And they did roll out that Model of their dream Carrier a few years back so he wants one, he'd have to build the yards before he could start building any large warships ..
They sure do love their auto loaders...
'Nuclear Depth Bomb' sounds like it deserves to be covered in more detail.
Developed by the same ordinance bureau as the nuclear hand grenade?
This ship looks good ON PAPER. I'd be gobsmacked if half the systems work at any given time.
The Chinese have been doing quite well with Liaoning recently. The JMSDF reported she was sustaining about 300 sorties per week when they shadowed her on her 2021 deployment. Contrast that with Kuznetsov doing 420 total sorties over the course of her entire 4-month 2016 deployment.
@@GintaPPE1000 exactly
Yeah, I was surprised that the air defense missiles were describes as "very accurate" and "could hit anything they were fired at," considering they've never really been fired in anger at a serious opponent. I don't think even the CIA or the Russians using classified information can speak with any confidence about how they would have actually performed. It's a lot of speculation. They might have worked perfectly in the 80's against anything the Americans were flying at the time. But there's no real performance data to back up or disprove such a claim.
These types of episodes are awesome man. You obviously put in lots of effort, it really shows in the quality. Keep up the good work.
Had she stayed (Admiral Kutznezov), in Ukraine during the break-up of the Soviet Union it would have been mothballed and either become a floating resort in China or may become the first aircraft carrier of the PLAN Loaning although the former Varyag would probably still have been acquired or completed in Ukraine then handed over to the PLAN or alternatively she may ended up with Indian Navy instead of the Admiral Gorshkov.
Ukraine became so corrupted at the break of Soviet Union. It sold everything: weapons, technologies, ammunition, carriers... you name it. I don't believe this country is able to build any serious ships since 1991.
Thank you for you great information, videos, and service.
That shaddy casino story is crazy, you can't make this up.
The Chinese version of '' The House always wins ''.
Another fire on the Kuznetsov reported today
The Kuznetsov looks very top heavy. The Chinese Liaoning looks much better. The former always has black smoke coming from the funnel, the latter has a clean exhaust, perhaps they replaced the boilers as they burn much cleaner. Perhaps the Russians used thick cheap bunker oil while the Chinese use lighter diesel.
They do use cheap crappy oil
"That's it for the Kuznetsov." Final words for your very entertaining history of this Russian attempt to compete as a aircraft carrier naval power, and likely a damning prognostication of the vessel's future, as well.
It is interesting how logistics and maintenance have been a consistent issue with Soviet/Russian military since forever. I'm sure this Achilles heel is considered in NATO doctrine.
On the Helicopter slide I believe that second photo is actually a KA-29, with the lack of surface search radar, different cockpit windows and the struts of the landing gear, and generally bulkier appearance as it has a primary role as a troop transport, that minor nitpick aside, great work as always Aaron, thanks for providing real info, not idly repeating the tug boat and pipework issues and saying nothing else like clickbait tubers, thanks!
The tugboats made it a meme in the West.
Thanks! Gonna enjoy this with some coffee tomorrow morning
Can't wait to get into nitty gritty on the ski ramp / catapult fascinating stuff
Wow, amazing Hull 2 - VARYAR storytelling .
First I ever heard of it
Good show 👍👍
Really enjoyed the brief and history of both ships and what the appalling living conditions were like on Kuznetsov while in the north. I have built the 1/350 scale Trumpeter PLAN Liaoning, which is basically the same as the Kuznetsov kit but with revised decals, aircraft / helos and CIWS. Cheers.
Very interesting story indeed! Another good video brief by Aaron.
The Kuznetsov Class. Continuing the time honored Russian/Soviet tradition of building expensive things cheaply and wondering why it doesn't work. Never change Russia.
What became of the Liaoning was only 60% finished when it was abandoned for years in Ukraine. When Chinese experts came for a detailed examination, it was found that the whole ship interior was in a very pitiful state but the main structure was in almost perfect shape: under the thin layer of rust, the steel used for the hull was of such quality that almost no sights of stress or deformation was seen despite years of abuse with no maintenance.
@@thomaszhang3101 The hull and structural members aren't the important thing here. The important thing here is the electronics and engines, and those, as installed by the Soviets in Kuznetsov, were and are absolute crap. Even worse, because of problems, Kuznetsov had to keep her engines constantly running for much of her life even when she was pierside, resulting in a situation where she has 40-year-old engines in a hull that's only actually been used for a total of about 3-5 years.
@@katherineberger6329 that limitations to the technology, and not their attitude of building expensive things cheaply. What was put onto the ship was the best that the Soviet industry could offer.
@@katherineberger6329 Currently in Ukraine, Russian weapons outperform all the West throws at them. Moreover the Mig29, Su25, Su27/31/35 are excellent aircraft. Disparaging a nation's intellectual capacity after they've led the way in space and over a vast range of military developments, isn't a good look, nonetheless you manage to pull it off well. Kuznetsov recently helped thwart the CIA/Mi6/Mossad-trained Islamic State in Syria. For this service alone Kuznetsov, earned its stripes.
@@a.m.armstrong8354 " Russian weapons outperform all the West throws at them. "
that is demonstrably untrue. Note all the burned out exploded T72 and their ilk. Does that look like victory?
re aircraft. top the line aircraft- Russia makes 1 for every 100 Murica drops
and the SU 25 is a coffin in a modern contested environment.
you, my troll friend- are full of bulsh1t.
Love these briefs. Great job as always, but would have loved to hear more about the fuel on her basically being roofing tar and burning so black to was very easy to track.
Russian naval mazut (more accurately called "furnace mazut") is cheap, filthy stuff, basically the same thing as the Bunker C that old cargo ships used to burn. It's so thick (like you said, basically roofing tar) that they have to heat the piping and tanks with superheated steam to liquify it and pump it around. All 1st world carriers that aren't nuclear have long since (1980s+) transitioned to burning jet fuel and diesel. They aren't even allowing new cargo ships to be registered that burn Bunker C, they all have to burn at least Diesel #2.
That ship looks like a damage control nightmare… which is a trait of the Russian navy … Those Missile Hatches in the flight deck … what could possibly go wrong…?
I love the Admiral Kuznetsov, it is so effective at eating Russian funds, the only thing left to improve is to heat the boilers by burning Rubels.
Dude, the picture from the periscope of a sub behind the kuzetzov, maybe 12in or less above the water line! Wondering where that particular snap came from😉 (please say us😁)
PROOF that if you rename a ship you doom her to poor luck
Really enjoying this series. Hopefully you can do some Royal Navy ships at some point 👍🏻
the reason that sukhoi s carry so few rounds is that their guns are for air to air and not air to ground. when the pilot squeezes the gun trigger the air plane's weapons system/avionics takes control of the aircraft. after calculating the speed, direction, size of both the sukhoi and the target aircraft, the plane then orients itself to align the gun for the perfect shot. only then does the gun fire.
gun accuracy is exceptionally good with hit ratios of better than 99% after five shots. there are also proximity fuses that can be used but come with smaller explosive shells. the stored shell capacity of 130 is more than enough to deal with multiple air threats.
getting too close to a sukhoi is suicide.
Thanks Capt!😋
Dude I am checking your channel twice each day for new videos
Wow, thanks
I have two YT channels. Checkout 'OnlySubs' for video game stuff.
Does anyone know why the Soviet Union loved to paint much of their decks that red-brown colour? I think it actually looks quite good, but it's not exactly low viz. Then again, if you're enemy has a direct visual on you, you're probably dead anyway.
The reddish brown is just a result of the anti rust paint.
Soviet/russian admirals can choose green or red paint with this formula and so the shops are either red decks or green and sometimes patchy.
They prefer red to white as it is easier on the eyes which can matter when everything is blinding snow white
Mig 29 K does have digital fly-by-wire, old Mig 29 S, and Mig 29 A do not have FBW
The greatest money pit in Russian Navy history & THAT is probably its greatest achievement😘
Good morning G
Great content. I’m going to enjoy this one. I watch the papa submarine brief last night and it was great. Are you thinking of doing a RN type 22 frigate or type 42 destroyer brief? Also a uk nuclear submarine story would be fantastic. From dreadnought to swift sure. Don’t know if doing modern active subs is a bit tricky.
Ship brief in the am b4 worm 👍
Thanks for the info
Where my boy at? It’s been two weeks. Hopefully enjoying a nice break!
"Arresting" the company management showed how important this thing was to PLAN, especially considering many other cases of civilian imports. Minsk actually became an amusement park and I have visited there years ago. HMAS Melbourne was also sold to China as scrap, but PLAN didn't spend much time on it either.
Fun fact about the yak-38: it would eject the pilot DOWN, and would automatically eject based off the roll of the plane. So yeah, very safe.
How could it eject the pilot down when the nose gear is right below the cockpit?
I thought take off and landing would be the most dangerous part of any flight. Especially for a carrier based plane. At those times you are also closest to the deck/ground. Would not like to be ejected downwards lol
@@michaeljohnson4258 escape module is also a unicycle lol
It's kinda funny how the Chinese one seems to have addressed less issues, but the ship looks nicer
The turbine issues with Kuznetsov are largely due to neglect, not design flaws. Basically the entire lower levels were abandoned after the collapse of the USSR - look up her “catacombs” for some images of how bad it got.
After Liaoning had a steam main rupture in 2014, she had her steam plant continually modified to try and fix the issues, which is why she didn’t officially become operational unit 2018. And evidently, enough of the plant works now that the Chinese also reused it for Shandong, not to mention both ships have been largely-trouble free despite being quite active in recent years.
Must admit modern Chinese ships look attractive and clean.
Hi Sub, this is like the Mullet of Warship's. Business in the front and Party in the back.
One correction. Three keels were laid in Ukraine in 1980th, two carriers were launched, and later commissioned - namely, Russian Kuznetsov and Chinese Liaoning. When USSR collapsed, the third keel was still in the very initial stage of construction with no funding anymore, so it was ultimately scrapped for its metal.
I believe India isn’t so thrilled with the MiG-29K. They seem to be looking at replacing them. They have two carriers again, Vikramaditya and the new Vikrant.
Good morning Sir and subscribers. I hope everyone had a Happy Thanksgiving. The Ticonderoga class cruiser is a large part of the Navy's defense. Your briefing show just large the hole in a in the Navy's defense is. The Navy has no replacement and even you triple the amount of Arleigh-Burke class destroyers the Navy will still fall short. Do you have briefing on all of the Arleigh-Burke class that includes all of the up dated versions? Thank you. Have Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
3:26 "dalian shipbuilding industry"...yeah about that. Aaron you may want to look into it.
I'm more interested in the tug which pulls it.
I was serving on SB-929 during my navy service. Ocean tug/ search / resque always departed to accompany any russian naval activity. Nowadays my beautiful ship painted black and renamed Шахтер.
Fascinating.
Isn't it bad luck to change the name of a ship? 😂
There’s bad luck in everything. But to your point sailors have a “ritual” to rename things. Some place have you sail out of harbor backwards and change the name at sea then bring it back to port. I don’t know how the Russians do it.
Sarcasm buddy
ahhhh America backing islamic state WTF dude 22:12. 😐
Jive Turkey went full russki troll mode. Better check his bank account for ruble transfers.
5:22 Hey what does my girlfriend have to do with this?😂
any chance you could do some briefs on ww2 subs? that would be very cool. great show.
RU: calls it a cruiser due to Montreaux
UK: call its carrier a through-deck cruiser because MoD being cheap
JP: call its carrier a multi-purpose operations destroyer due to Article 9 (who wrote that?)
Imagine if Russia had 10 of these modernized and in good condition.
That would be very scary.
Ten of any carrier is a great cause for concern.
I'm surprised you didn't mention the Kamov KA-31 airborne early warning helicopter.
It is very well armed, I like to know if there any in depth books about this ship.
Never stop 👌👌👌
Ship brief in AM b4 work...love it, great content as always 👍
Airframe stress loads are so different for use on flipper ships than cat ships that one plane can't work with both. Between launching and arresting the flipper planes have to be beefed up to take the stress in two different directions.
As far as I understand, Tbilisi wasn't the third name for the first hull, but actually a name for the second one
maybe. these ships went through at least 3 name changes due to end of USSR
Came for the tugboat jokes. Was not disappointed
24:25 Not in the future Cap, India commissioned their 1st homemade carrier this year
He uploads his videos to UA-cam a year after they are put up on Patreon
comparable to carriers in 1980s? more like mid 1940s. Midway was of comparable displacement
Is there a chance that you could play some sonar recordings and explain how you would Analyse those, what it tells you about the ship, it's technology or like how it sounds when a sub or torpedo is approaching?
I have no idea how you could "read" something like this from a seemingly monotonous sound.
Love your channel! Greetings from Germany
I know I'm late but passive sonar works off frequencies, it can detect how many screws/blades a ship/sub has and can identify them due to their different frequencies for tens of kilometers underwater since sound travels so well, that's the short explanation.
Very nice video SB.
Few extra facts
1)Russians couldn't make steam catupults work in north so they opted for ski ramp. Having a deck frozen to -20c and trying to operate a steam system out of it did't sound something easy. Next class of carriers called Ulyanovsk would have nuke propulsion so more power to make a steam system work in the north.
2)2nd ship Varyag was not allowed at first to cross Vosporus, so they ended up circling Black sea for 16 months. When the got permision to cross, a sea gale in Aegean caused tow lines to brake and the ship was heading to the rocks of Skyros island. A Greek helicopter landed on it to pick 7 crew members, fortunatelly the weather became better so they managed to re-attach tow lines and keep going.
3)Egypt forbit it to cross Suez for a ship without own power, so they had to circle Africa to reach china.
Kuznetsov, they forgot to install engines. Instead they got magnificent smoke generator plant for fighting in First WW.
Interesting that you mentioned the Su-25 doesn't look anything like the A-10. It looks a lot like the YA-9 though which was Northrop's prototype for the A-X program just two years before the first flight of the Su-25.
The incident mentioned on 20:40 has been caught on video. Just search for "Sukhoi Su 33 Crash".
Ooo is it "Sub-Brief-Christmas" on UA-cam this week? And this is my favorite type of Sub Brief as well: Cold War-era Russian vessel that makes you wonder what the Hell those crazy commies were thinking. Thanks, Capt Jive!
"72 meters, T H I C C" - J.Turkey 2022
She must be making 80k shaft horsepower each, it would be insane if a ship that big makes 32 knots on 80k shaft horsepower total
LOL. It just had another fire -- add another year or two to the 'refurbishment' schedule ;)
At the rate it is going, it will soon enter service alongside the Moskva ;)
They will probably blame the fire on cigarettes again. At this rate the Ukrainians can win this war by simply supplying the Russians with free cigarettes.
Unanswered question: how many bottles of vodka were typically smuggled per man?
very funny and I suspect it was a lot.
10:48 RBU has 2 variants either 6 or 12 barrels, not 10.
That´s not true. There are several different versions of the RBU. The RBU-1000 have six barrels, the RBU-1200 have five barrels, the RBU-2500 have 16 barrels, the RBU-6000 have 12 barrels and the RBU-12000 have 10 barrels. The problem is he´s refering to the RBU-12000 as the RBU-6000, while at the same time showing a picture of a RBU-1000 and a drawing of a RBU-6000.
...also it was discovered that most of the copper cabling has been stolen for sale making her almost useless until the replacement of most of the electronics (if they will even bother to do it at all).
Never leave copper ANYTHING unguarded in Russia. It will go missing. Also, you might want to hire some extra guards to guard the guards guarding the copper…😉
The Soviets suffered badly with one-up-man-ship. IT seems to me that many of their projects were just for show: as soon as they were a few years old the military lost interest (and therefore budget) to keep them working, they didn't fill a very useful role for them (in this case, they already had lots of planes that could go where ever they legitimately needed without an aircraft carrier), and they were often stuffed with equipment that didn't make sense for the mission that seems like it was just there to say "oh look at all these goodies" (all those missiles).
25:48 Wow I never knew this part. It's incredibly and fishy.
There is no way in China a private business can do such a thing, so this "business man" has to be related to CCP somehow, in which case imprisonment is even more mysterious.
I'm just curious about one thing - in the brief here at the timestamp you mention, Mr Jive says they tried to sell it to China but China didn't want it. Then he goes on to talk about the man buying it privately and then China confiscating it. All in all, that sounds fishy but it doesn't make sense if framed as some sort of conspiracy for China to get the ship. If China had wanted the ship in the first place, they could have just bought it when they were first offered it. Refusing to buy it then creating an elaborate ruse and workaround to have one of their eccentric citizens purchase the ship then take it from him makes no sense when they could have opted for simply getting it without all the extra legwork.
I mean, it could actually have been an elaborate ruse to get the ship indirectly instead of just buying it and maybe they had good reason to do it that way, but I fail to see a reason why it would have benefited them to do so.
@@Exkhaniber It may have been a case of budget. The China of the 90s was only just beginning its rise as an economic powerhouse, so they simply might not have had the money at that point and maybe needed a company that was more likely to get international capital for such a move. There's also the problem of China always having been perceived as a threat by the US, Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and Vietnam. That presents the problem of the outright purchase of a "70% Lower" by a government that is widely perceived as being belligerent, but maybe does not yet have the power projection capabilities to truly back that up with enemy bases in Okinawa, Yokohama and Guam on what it considers to be its front porch. Especially in the late 90s, the US might have very well tried to block selling such power potential to China by way of NATO or the UN. The Chinese government letting some kooky investor buy a high profile ship for some strange new idea and then stepping in to present itself as a nation that stops international arms trade (outwardly at least) was probably a nice smokescreen to pull that off.
@@DiggingForFacts also prevents the hulk from being mysteriously torpedoed or any other "freak accidents" while being towed to China.
I gathered some hearsay from Chinese sources, but it's too complicated.
Long story short: some senior military officials who had different opinions from the head of CCP made the decision of purchasing Varyag behind the back of the head of CCP. Latter on they lost the internal power struggles of CCP and were punished for corruption. The businessman they sought was also found guilty and thus imprisonment.
The fishiness of the whole thing comes from the internal power struggles: back then Sino-US relation was much better, and president Jiang of China (who just died) didn't want to antagonize Clinton admin and thus gave the order of not purchasing Varyag. Purchasing Varyag apparently was one of the actions senior military officials mentioned did to challenge Jiang's authority.
@@zyc8198 Now that is absolutely fascinating, if true.
Da, we make the world's biggest LCS.
Dalian is in China where the Chinese reconstructed the one unfinished hual and a copy of the ship I wouldn't call it the construction yard.
I thought the Indian Vikramaditya was the same class as the kuznetsov, like the Kiev and Minsk which were both sold to china for entertainment as well. But those 3 were a completely different class. Huh, they look quite similar though.
Jive Turkey seems to have a lot of false information. Kuznetsov and Kiev were two different ships and classes. Kiev became Vikramaditya.
@@Hairysteed Vikramaditia is ex Gorshkov ex Baku, the 4th hull of the Kiev-class.
@@Hairysteed he never said they were the same class? What are you smoking?
@@Hairysteed He unfortunately is only slightly bigger standard than a gamer military channel.
He falls quite short when compared to historians or experts sometimes but overall his intentions are good.
He is just a busy man who can't become an expert in everything rather than intentionally ignorant and wrong.
Some day, it might even put to sea again.
Mig29k does have FBW and that top photo of mig landing is not on kuznetsov but ins vikramaditya
P.s. surprised they didn't put a trip-barreled 18inch turret on it as well.
5:20 by the 'numbers'? no no no. "Long", "Thicc". Thats all that is needed.