I feel that strand is actually in a fantastic spot rn, can be super useful and really increases the possible skill gap. Even when people do end up using it like that, it is difficult to learn all of the individual things you can do. It’s not a free slate of overpowered abilities that anyone can use without skill like stasis used to be.
Quick Tip: The distance you travel from the slam is based on your current momentum, and canceling a grapple with a slam when you're at max speed seems to send you the farthest. Doing it after a jump (for whatever reason) seems to give less distance.
You don't have to have auto-melee off or bind an uncharged melee to be able to do lunge melee after grapple. You can just click your super button after grapple and it will lunge you (also works with cancelling throwing knives too). Just make sure you don't have your super charged...otherwise you will unintentionally pop super!
Yeah but since you have to worry about that super thing just makes it a hassle imo. Also idk why they still haven’t fixed the super melee thing bc I fat finger sometimes and I just end up meleeing
@@SayWallahBruh Yeh it is a hassle but when your on the sticks its hard to find an extra button for an uncharged melee. Any suggestions for an uncharged melee button?
@@sitnok3820 I switched one of my emote buttons to finisher, and set my uncharged melee to what used to be the finisher button. In my case, the finisher moved to the empty emote button, uncharged melee was set to the old finisher button, and my charged melee was set to what was the auto-melee. Obviously switch it around however you want, that config made the most sense to me. And I would also change your Super input to 2 buttons if it isn't already, prevents a lot of accidental presses in my experience.
iirc if you have ability melee and kinetic melee bound to the same button, holding down your shoot button will make it so your melee button will use the grapple melee and not the ability. Though on titan, for some reason, you dont have to hold down the shoot button. the button will only activate the grapple melee
@@sitnok3820 if you okay on Xbox there is like 30$ controllers with buttons on bottom and I have charged melee set to right on the dpad because I set one of the buttons to it 😊
You can actually preform a super reliable tangle grapple punch combo as well! What I tend to do whenever I’m not using tangles for movement is to pick one up, toss it a medium to low arc through mid or whatever lane is active and grapple to it, and since the tangles have the same tracking property as they do in pve, 9/10 it will curve directly into an enemy which will knock them to half and you can immediately follow up with a grapple punch killing them. It all happens very quickly and as long as the tangle hits them there’s nothing they can do to stop it. It even creates another tangle upon kill, highly recommend
I've played against you twice in trials, and I don't think peoplr understand how good your moevemnt is and your videos dont so you justice. Separates you from a lot of other streamers and top level players I've ran into in trials. Keep up the grinding young fella!!!
Late to the party here so don't know if anyone's said this already. But for my fellow controller players (I'm on ps5), I set uncharged melee to R1 and charged to double tap R3. I tried double tap R1 but wasn't getting the charged melee off consistently. And I just unbound auto melee. We obviously don't have the versatility of key binds like mnk, but this is how I learned to do this movement on controller!
Heyo wallah definitely helpful didn’t put two and two together on the auto melee, hope your friend who does the editing is holding in there much love to you and him
Grapple also refunds one jump if you're on double jump(not sure about the others)! It's not the greatest for doing actual movements. However, you can chain the grapple and jump together indefinitely, because your grapple is refunded when you grapple to an already established grapple point. it's a lot of fun and you can get into some wacky spots.
If you have powered and normal melee binded to the same button - just shoot and use melee, then it always use non-powered melee = you can use grapple melee
@@VerEdon so I have to not shoot my weapon if I want to use a powered melee. And if I want to use the normal melee.. aka grapple melee I have to shoot my weapon lol. That sounds aweful.
some people don't know you can strafe while grappling. when ever i grapple counter clockwise (left), i press D to get more circular momentum. and vice versa, whenever i grapple around to the right i press A
love the video. but my prayers go out to your editor, truly sad to see him in such conditions at such a young age. be strong to both you and your editor 🙏 😢
Unfortunately, the pvp community in destiny is not large enough for him to have that. That’s why I’m so glad he’s doing so well on twitch bc he’s also such an amazing entertainer in addition to being the best d2 player of all time.
Do a guide on the super now, my streaks usually end when i pop it since I have to be on their level to attack since vertical attacks don't work and the DR is worse than golden gun lmao
Another thing is since fast ball doesnt do much (if anything) with grapple you can opt for grenade kickstart and you will get grenade energy anytime you grapple including grappling to your own grapple point so if you have some down time or are in a stalemate you can just continuously chain and cancel the grapple on to a point and get both charges back. This is even better with the helmet to have Perma woven mail
Cool meme stuff you can do with grapple kinda mentioned. When you grapple as a hunter it leaves the node that allows you to use grapple with out using the ability charge. But every time you grapple it resets your double jump. So you can reach the sky box by 1) priming a node by grappeling in the air, canceling that first grapple than (grapple cancel double jump) repeat. You can do this untill you are again at the sky box and go for some really fun suspends
Been using the grapple punch to knock guardians off the map or follow up with a Rapid fire fusion. Been starting to enjoy that new helm that gives DR as well. Remember to always use Grenade kick start if you're grappling, as you can refresh your grenade from any grapple point or tangle...
I also like to jump up to start engagements with my 85 AE rose (elemental capacitor, Icarus, extended, foetracer) and just shoot them, and then dive down if it’s not going well. Like on dead cliffs if you’re on the spawn in the corner vs outside spawn, I like to jump up over the platform to peak and then dive back down. Or I just run in there with both grapples and ground pound
Appreciate the movement guide, still getting the hang of it myself so I just imagine my character is Spiderman and it helps a little. Also what hand cannon is that you're using?
While it doesn't come into play as often in PvP, dont forget that you can grapple to your grapple point to get free grenade energy with grenade Kickstart as the game thinks you've used a grenade ability so gives you energy but the grapple point fully refunds your grenade
I just use my super button not a perfect option since it only works when you don't have a super but since I'm on warlock I am not usually holding on to my super that long
For those people who are on a controller use your jump and crouch button on an elite together for the grapple melee. Also only tested this out on the moon public activity but dead messenger looks the way for multiple suspends. Will you get away with it in PVP or end game PVE
im a weirdo and have a 12 button mouse so my movement and nade are on keyboard but my uncharged, charged and a few other things on my mouse. its not necessary but Its nice to have
In terms of auto-melee, only Titan and Warlock can do grapple melees while having charged melees ready. Hunter is for some reason the only class that tosses their charged melee over the grapple melee
A good comparison to the grapple in this game would be TitanFall 2, if you know how to properly grapple in that game, in D2 it would be a cake walk for you
Does anyone have advice to move like this on controller? Should I just crank my sens up? Or just go into a private match and practice? Also, any controller players, what did you bind your power melee to? An emote button?
Probably not a great solution, but back when I mained shadebinder I got tired of wasting the freeze melee, so I have charged melee R1 and uncharged set to R3 (click the stick) works well for me
@@GMurph2336 yeah, I figured that was probably the set up you have, I’ve heard that having them bound to the same button, but I don’t know which takes preference on that, but d-pad, I think will be awkward too in shotgun fights, etc.
Hey doods sorry for no gameplay today! I wanted to get this video out asap so people stop asking for it! Regular gameplay tomorrow! Love you see ya
@SayWallahBruh will we get a hunter movement guide?
What’s the shader for the chestpiece?
I saw your post about your editor. My prayers are going out to that man.
Thank you for the tips and vid
@@wallyrus104 looks like irradiant chaorite
Any update on your editor??
I feel that strand is actually in a fantastic spot rn, can be super useful and really increases the possible skill gap. Even when people do end up using it like that, it is difficult to learn all of the individual things you can do. It’s not a free slate of overpowered abilities that anyone can use without skill like stasis used to be.
don't start saying anything increases the skill gap bungie will nerf it 💀
Skill gap in this game is a joke lmao. As long as you can aim at people's nuts and shoulders and still hit crits it will be a joke.
@@GageMason the fact that you think aim is the only thing that can determine skill says a lot about your skill lol
@@dylanholm9995 I never said that lmao. You need to learn how to read.
Quick Tip: The distance you travel from the slam is based on your current momentum, and canceling a grapple with a slam when you're at max speed seems to send you the farthest. Doing it after a jump (for whatever reason) seems to give less distance.
You don't have to have auto-melee off or bind an uncharged melee to be able to do lunge melee after grapple.
You can just click your super button after grapple and it will lunge you (also works with cancelling throwing knives too).
Just make sure you don't have your super charged...otherwise you will unintentionally pop super!
Yeah but since you have to worry about that super thing just makes it a hassle imo. Also idk why they still haven’t fixed the super melee thing bc I fat finger sometimes and I just end up meleeing
@@SayWallahBruh Yeh it is a hassle but when your on the sticks its hard to find an extra button for an uncharged melee. Any suggestions for an uncharged melee button?
@@sitnok3820 I switched one of my emote buttons to finisher, and set my uncharged melee to what used to be the finisher button. In my case, the finisher moved to the empty emote button, uncharged melee was set to the old finisher button, and my charged melee was set to what was the auto-melee. Obviously switch it around however you want, that config made the most sense to me. And I would also change your Super input to 2 buttons if it isn't already, prevents a lot of accidental presses in my experience.
iirc if you have ability melee and kinetic melee bound to the same button, holding down your shoot button will make it so your melee button will use the grapple melee and not the ability.
Though on titan, for some reason, you dont have to hold down the shoot button. the button will only activate the grapple melee
@@sitnok3820 if you okay on Xbox there is like 30$ controllers with buttons on bottom and I have charged melee set to right on the dpad because I set one of the buttons to it 😊
You can actually preform a super reliable tangle grapple punch combo as well! What I tend to do whenever I’m not using tangles for movement is to pick one up, toss it a medium to low arc through mid or whatever lane is active and grapple to it, and since the tangles have the same tracking property as they do in pve, 9/10 it will curve directly into an enemy which will knock them to half and you can immediately follow up with a grapple punch killing them. It all happens very quickly and as long as the tangle hits them there’s nothing they can do to stop it. It even creates another tangle upon kill, highly recommend
I've played against you twice in trials, and I don't think peoplr understand how good your moevemnt is and your videos dont so you justice. Separates you from a lot of other streamers and top level players I've ran into in trials. Keep up the grinding young fella!!!
Adam Strandler strikes again
would definitely love a full hunter movement guide from you one day!
Late to the party here so don't know if anyone's said this already. But for my fellow controller players (I'm on ps5), I set uncharged melee to R1 and charged to double tap R3. I tried double tap R1 but wasn't getting the charged melee off consistently. And I just unbound auto melee. We obviously don't have the versatility of key binds like mnk, but this is how I learned to do this movement on controller!
Super helpful, Wallah. I usually stay away from Hunter cuz I love Titan and Warlock but Strand Hunter seems worth the switch and this really helped.
Hope your editor is okay ❤️
Heyo wallah definitely helpful didn’t put two and two together on the auto melee, hope your friend who does the editing is holding in there much love to you and him
Grapple also refunds one jump if you're on double jump(not sure about the others)! It's not the greatest for doing actual movements. However, you can chain the grapple and jump together indefinitely, because your grapple is refunded when you grapple to an already established grapple point. it's a lot of fun and you can get into some wacky spots.
What’s that shader on Rose?
i was asking the same question but i dont see any answers and wallah liked but didnt comment 😭
Love these types of videos!
Also you can grapple onto the lumina noble rounds, that’s a lot of fun
WICKED - Needed this to show some of my students. Thanks fellow jim
Thank you for the guide ❤
Man, Strand Hunter is so much fun, meanwhile Warlock's Threadlings do the most random shit and run into walls. Rip.
If you have powered and normal melee binded to the same button - just shoot and use melee, then it always use non-powered melee = you can use grapple melee
But then you don’t have a powered melee… lol
@@OxbohYes, you have. If you are not shooting it defaults to powered melee, even up-close to enemy.
@@VerEdon so I have to not shoot my weapon if I want to use a powered melee. And if I want to use the normal melee.. aka grapple melee I have to shoot my weapon lol. That sounds aweful.
@@Oxboh it's not strictly shooting. It depends on if you have pressed shoot button. It's not that inconvenient as it looks :)
thanks for those vids, they are very helpfull. Thx for ur cool content always makes my day better XD
does anyone know how he gets his character to look so bright? i’ve tried the same shader and can’t get that effect
rose shader? looks so good
that was super interesting bro, thanks , im loving strand hunter atm too :)
some people don't know you can strafe while grappling. when ever i grapple counter clockwise (left), i press D to get more circular momentum. and vice versa, whenever i grapple around to the right i press A
Thanks Wallah, love the videos man 🤯
Damn that new moon widows court map looking clean
love the video. but my prayers go out to your editor, truly sad to see him in such conditions at such a young age. be strong to both you and your editor 🙏 😢
I never heard about this idk what it is but hope theyre okay
why does this guy not have 1million subs? he's easily the best pvp player in the d2 community.
Unfortunately, the pvp community in destiny is not large enough for him to have that. That’s why I’m so glad he’s doing so well on twitch bc he’s also such an amazing entertainer in addition to being the best d2 player of all time.
Pro Tip: you get a 200% increase to in air mobility and a 75% reduction to all knockback (including airblast) while using Threat Level
Do a guide on the super now, my streaks usually end when i pop it since I have to be on their level to attack since vertical attacks don't work and the DR is worse than golden gun lmao
editor love ❤
Another thing is since fast ball doesnt do much (if anything) with grapple you can opt for grenade kickstart and you will get grenade energy anytime you grapple including grappling to your own grapple point so if you have some down time or are in a stalemate you can just continuously chain and cancel the grapple on to a point and get both charges back. This is even better with the helmet to have Perma woven mail
Cool meme stuff you can do with grapple kinda mentioned. When you grapple as a hunter it leaves the node that allows you to use grapple with out using the ability charge. But every time you grapple it resets your double jump. So you can reach the sky box by 1) priming a node by grappeling in the air, canceling that first grapple than (grapple cancel double jump) repeat. You can do this untill you are again at the sky box and go for some really fun suspends
Wallah listen, it’s time to use Khepris horn with strand.
Do you wipe sitting or standing wallah
Been using the grapple punch to knock guardians off the map or follow up with a Rapid fire fusion.
Been starting to enjoy that new helm that gives DR as well. Remember to always use Grenade kick start if you're grappling, as you can refresh your grenade from any grapple point or tangle...
I love Strand. Not a fan of being shoved into 3rd person camera when Suspended, but you get used to it
Daily editor prayer ❤
gotta love stand hunter
Ima. Hunter main and. Even learned a thing here. Thanks for this vid wallah
What shader was that on your Rose?
What jump do you normally use wallah?
I also like to jump up to start engagements with my 85 AE rose (elemental capacitor, Icarus, extended, foetracer) and just shoot them, and then dive down if it’s not going well. Like on dead cliffs if you’re on the spawn in the corner vs outside spawn, I like to jump up over the platform to peak and then dive back down. Or I just run in there with both grapples and ground pound
Appreciate the movement guide, still getting the hang of it myself so I just imagine my character is Spiderman and it helps a little. Also what hand cannon is that you're using?
It’s the Rose hand canon :)
Also while using the grapple melee, you can grapple, zoom like the flash and shotgun>melee =)
What shader is on the rose?
if you play apex , the grapple physics and momentum is like the pathfider grapple but tad bit easier to pull off
Does the melee thing have a effect like strand on other subclass or just strand ????
While it doesn't come into play as often in PvP, dont forget that you can grapple to your grapple point to get free grenade energy with grenade Kickstart as the game thinks you've used a grenade ability so gives you energy but the grapple point fully refunds your grenade
“No scope mele-oh shit”
😂😂
how are you hitting those in air shots with stompeez on?
Movement in destiny 2, M&K+strand. Good video.
You can shut down thunder strike with the air dodge, I tried it and it works
strand is too fun with all the flashy schnasty plays you can do
Prayers for ur editor.
I just use my super button not a perfect option since it only works when you don't have a super but since I'm on warlock I am not usually holding on to my super that long
what shader is on your rose?
Can you do a guide like this for every hunter subclass.
Day 1, new mindbender's ambition deserve better
I love wallah telling me how to handle balls
For those people who are on a controller use your jump and crouch button on an elite together for the grapple melee. Also only tested this out on the moon public activity but dead messenger looks the way for multiple suspends. Will you get away with it in PVP or end game PVE
Favourite exotics for hunter strand ?
Thank you...
Do NOT pick up a tangle you didn't make! I want to shoot my little bundle nuke you rushing in picking it up and immediate dying does nothing
I’m praying for your editor man, That truly sucks
Rose shader???
Stompees gonna be kidna stinky with strand next season
What’s the opinion on using sixth coyote for a second air dodge?
It’s what I main. Lets you dodge out of awkward situations. Love it
does fastball allow for the anchor point of the tether to go further since its a grenade technically?
Very good question that no one is answering☹️
I tried to grapple melee, I got shotgun between the grapple and the melee, I learned not to go for grapple melee on enemies.
omg thank u saywallahbruh I can finally suspend all of my friends in private matches 🙏
How about warlock please
Shader????
im a weirdo and have a 12 button mouse so my movement and nade are on keyboard but my uncharged, charged and a few other things on my mouse. its not necessary but Its nice to have
I hope strand hunter doesn’t get nerfed, but I have a feeling it’s gonna happen in a month or two
Maybe the new aspect but everything else nah. Without artifacts it’s pretty balanced
Can we get a gofundme for your editor?
Whenever they get back to me
@@SayWallahBruh Awesome. I really hope they recover soon. That story is so sad.
In terms of auto-melee, only Titan and Warlock can do grapple melees while having charged melees ready. Hunter is for some reason the only class that tosses their charged melee over the grapple melee
Day 1: Praying for Wallah’s editor 🙏
I stand melee around corners and it’s nice cuz they don’t know what’s going on
warlock strand needs a buff fr
A good comparison to the grapple in this game would be TitanFall 2, if you know how to properly grapple in that game, in D2 it would be a cake walk for you
What if you're on controller?
I remember when people were calling strand trash literally Day 1 of Lightfall lmao
5:15 Wallah, buddy. - We both know, you wouldn't hit that headshot - lmao Kappa xD rofl rofl
One thing that I've found is that you get a big burst of speed with strafe jump when you jump at the very end of the grapple
"HIt them with the no sc-OH SHIT"
Day 129 asking wallah to become the hammer of dawn aka devils ruin with wings of sacred dawn do Cerberus first
I am at total 6k kills w/ Cerberus, but 4k on the tracker... T^T
@@Cerberus1141 nice I’m at 7200 with devils ruin and 6500 on tracker
@@Releothunder Damnb
Day 50 or so idek of asking for updated settings guide with dpi and other stuff aswell:( pls Jim
One last tips with these balls
Does anyone have advice to move like this on controller? Should I just crank my sens up? Or just go into a private match and practice? Also, any controller players, what did you bind your power melee to? An emote button?
Probably not a great solution, but back when I mained shadebinder I got tired of wasting the freeze melee, so I have charged melee R1 and uncharged set to R3 (click the stick) works well for me
@@Helmsy_53Gaming that’ll get real awkward since that’s where my slide/crouch is
@@GMurph2336 yeah, I figured that was probably the set up you have, I’ve heard that having them bound to the same button, but I don’t know which takes preference on that, but d-pad, I think will be awkward too in shotgun fights, etc.
tbh, if I ever run into you in pvp, im just gonna use Thorne on you mister 2 res
Strand titan next 😮😮😮😮😮 lol
Let me calm my place as 13th person to see the video
Thumbnail: *Movent*
Hunters fat head is in the way 😂
saaaayy wallah?!
I know you don’t care but the melee isn’t a shuriken. It’s more of a kunai. The stasis melee is more of a shuriken.
Is your editor okay?
FINALLY
🏆👏