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A psychopath 'drained' my late husband's life 2 years ago after years of various forms of manipulation and torture! We'd known him for 24 years - my husband considered him a friend in spite of some odd/inappropriate behaviors. It's been a nightmare - caring for my dying husband (poisoned) for 2 1/2 years and coming to realize who had planned and acted in various ways to cause his death. There are many people like this - we need to be on our guard! The 'demon' I've described is active in his church - even preaches sometimes!
You are describing my spouse. I can't handle his behavior anymore. I'm secretly saving up to make a quiet escape. I'm afraid he could become violent, so I'll be leaving when he is away on a trip.
All of this is pretty chilling but I would like to add that psychopaths can also seem to perform in social situations a bit like robots with a learned script which can fail them sometimes when their behaviour/words don't seem to match the nuances of the situation or conversation. I think the average person, once armed with education or experience of these types, can begin to detect these patterns of behaviour and thus disengage from them ASAP.
@@einstein63 Yes, they are the ones who can’t read the room and will casually say something that leaves everyone else frozen with their mouths open in disbelief. And of course the psychopath may not even appear to realize they’ve just said something far out of the norm.
When I was still a child I tried to wrap my head around how my family functioned. We didn't have terms like narcissists or psychopaths back then. I figured, in my family, we were divided in two groups: the ones who took and the ones who gave.
Garnering sympathy has become a red flag in general since learning about how to live abuse free. It's not always sinister when I feel sympathy for someone but I do have to apply a lot of reflection on whether it is a manipulation tactic.
Parasitic is *right* ! Intestinal parasites are a higher form of life than a no-good narcissist , sociopath , psychopath , or any combination/variant of the three .
Think of them as quadruplets. A quad may differ from the other three, and this may be true of each of the other three, as well, but each is far more like the others than would be true of four ordinary siblings.
I am not a professional. But I was married to a diagnosed psychopath for 3 years, and I have known people with each. Narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths all lack empathy and can be superficially charming. Here are the differences I have learned. Sociopaths: are more power motivated like psychopaths but they tend to be the easiest to spot of the 3 because they are more chaotic. Sociopathy is also known as Type 2 Psychopathy mentioned in this video. Sociopaths are usually in and out of jail their whole lives. They are more impulsive. You won’t find a sociopath in the corporate world. They tend to be too chaotic to hold down a job for long. They usually grew up in really rough, chaotic environments where these traits were encouraged. Sociopaths are the people that will think, “oh I need money. Let me just rob this gas station real quick”. Psychopaths: technically fall under the same disorder as sociopaths but psychopaths have better impulse control. Sociopaths and psychopaths are both power motivated. They like money to gain more power. They like to have power over other people. Psychopaths play the long game. They can excel in their careers. Psychopaths were usually chaotic like sociopaths in their youth but they learned how to control it because that is the easiest way to gain the most power. Psychopaths have a dysfunctional nervous system where they do not experience the “fight or flight” response. They don’t feel anxiety or nervousness. Psychopaths are impossible to spot. Even after being married to a psychopath, I still would not be able to spot one. Psychopaths usually also have narcissistic personality disorder so there is a lot of overlap, but they don’t need to be the center of attention like narcissists. They don’t have the same fragile ego narcissists have. Psychopaths know they are the best. Our marriage counselor said being married to a psychopath makes marriage to a narcissist look like a walk in the park. I feel that. Narcissists: are all ego motivated, instead of power motivated. Narcissists want to gain money just to look better. They tend to project a cocky exterior to protect a fragile ego underneath. Narcissists feel extreme jealousy, unlike sociopaths and psychopaths. Narcissists can also have a low level of empathy, guilt, and remorse. Vs. Psychopaths have no empathy, guilt, or remorse. You may find a narcissist crying and apologizing to keep you around. You will rarely find this in a sociopath or psychopath. Sadists: sadists just means someone gets enjoyment / satisfaction from hurting others. Any of the above disorders can also be sadists. They also may not be sadists. They may not enjoy hurting people, they just don’t care when their actions do hurt others. Hope that helps!
This is why so many of them are financially well off and seem "successful." They have no problem stepping on the necks of others, taking all the goodies for themselves.
I didn't even realize that the narc was preying on my finances, my professional network, my social circle, my name... even now that we're separated, he's trying to get his hands on payment for work I'm doing 100% on my own. It's so disgusting once you finally see through the BS about 'the dynasty we were building together', how he could 'sell sand to the desert' but never seemed to be able to keep a job or stick to a business. How can you have all of the ambition but none of the skills or work ethic?
I think predator is a more apt description of a psychopath whereas parasite better fits the narcissist. The psychopath can go from prey to prey simply acquiring what is needed and moving on, but the narcissist wants a host to provide narcissistic supply over time.
Interesting comment! As I listened to his succinct description of a psychopath as a parasite I tried to classify my father as Type 1 & my partner as Type 2. Both actually stayed with their first partners for decades, so it’s difficult to see them as moving on for supply, but remember the narcissistic trifecta is always sex/cash/show. Although most narcs are autoerotic & possibly gay, they need feedback about their wonderful sexual performance or power over another… however, money seems to trump (pun intended) their supply line as they age. Surprisingly a show of normality, as in a monogamous heterosexual union, can be very important to previous generations, so even boomers can cling to the marriage. Since narcissists are incredibly insecure & more neurotic than psychopaths, it’s really difficult to decide… but certainly the psychosis worsens with age & eventually cannot be hidden from the public.
Actually, I think some narcissists will do it either way. My dark tetrad narc would've just as soon I died so he could take it all and move on quicker.
@@caroleminke6116Very well dissected! And I tend to agree with you on all points. My 72 year old dark tetrad narc finally picked the wrong girl and got overexposed!
@@caroleminke6116I'm new at this, only married one horrible narcissist at age 70, so I often learn something from your comment. I didn't ever hear of the "narcissistic trifecta". Maybe Darren can cover this as a topic for a video...
I just watched the documentary about Lois Riess on Crave last night.. wow does she ever fit these characteristics!! Everything from the superficial charm and attractiveness to lure in unsuspecting people to the manipulation to get what she wanted. And finally used them parasitically with zero compassion or empathy. The crazy thing is that she didn't seem to truly show these characteristics until she was in her 50's.
Yes, I’m a victim of diagnosed psychopath ( F1)- pure horror! But I’m trying to look at the good side of the holocaust torture and senseless abuse I experienced; I’m alive, free and I learned so so much! This lesson money can’t buy and I turned this experience into something so significant for me. Today I’m grateful for what I have ( and I have so much- I’m not hungry, nor homeless and I’m free) and I don’t worry about I don’t have and any really not important things. Who survived a psychopath will see the world like never before and be grateful for every little thing that they never even noticed before. You will strive and I wish you the only very best!
Thank you for your brillant observations Darren. Psychopaths are more common than we think. Many people live parasitic lives and live by the rule that end justifies the means. Cold, calculated cruel, entitled, exploitative yet superficially charismatic, charming and allegedly full of concern and care for the greater good and well being of others. Lies and manipulation all along. I have been dealing with it for many years now.
You've just explained the last gf.she is now a nurse , so go figure, she claims to hate people, but likes helping them heal from sickness. The last part is telling, playing the marytr. the marytr and the vitcim are one of the same.
I used to think my ex husband was just narcissistic: that he believed he was entitled to status that he had not earned. Now I see his psychopathic, parasitic tendencies as well: he felt entitled to my resources as well: my income, my assets, etc. and was never willing to pull his weight.
Not all obviously but yes, where there is power, status and money to be found; these positions will be disproportionately represented by disordered people. I would add school administration to that list.
Trump in mind as he spoke. Mussolini & Hitler combined on steroids! It’s truly scary to be an American @ this frightening time in the world 🌎 but today I voted early here in narcissistic Florida 💙
By this description, it can be hard to tell, if you’re looking at a vulnerable or communal narcissist, in some ways. Either way, if you have any idea they’re Cluster B at all, hit the road!
@@caroleminke6116 they are. But, I’m also dealing with a malignant sister. Broke into the house I inherited and changed the lock, before I received the deed. So, dealing with the violent aspect is not fun either.
@@privateprivate8366sounds like 2 of my sisters who took over my father’s house while he was in the hospital & were probably planning to murder him if he came home but I warned him then threw my key inside & locked the door & walked away
I would like to hear a discussion of how the world we now occupy, and specifically the electronic world, has given rise to epidemic levels of psychopathy. A discussion of on-line scammers in regard to psychopathy would be relevant to this topic.
My stupid ex friend went and married one and he is so disgusting and yet she defended him and I ended up getting the boot. I won’t cry when karma comes for her or him.
Wow, you are extremely critical of your "friend"! When you're thinking about Karma, you need to remember to look in the mirror. I think you have really forgotten the saying "love is blind." She probably was love- bombed all the way to the altar, as I was. I'd never even heard of narcissism or love bombing. Try cutting people some slack instead of being so judgmental it feels like you chopped her head off.
@@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753 wow maybe I should’ve given an explanation. I’ve known my friend since she was six. She’s an alcoholic and we both came from abusive homes. She is known for her cruelty but I saw so much more in her. She’s heavily degreed and a member of Mensa, so very intelligent. I started dating someone years ago who at the time drove a truck and had lost his job. She said to me “how disgusting I would never date someone who drives a truck and doesn’t have a job.“ Of course he eventually got another job and who cares if someone drives a truck. she very much is concerned with image so to her the car mattered. She’s very entitled and grew up very spoiled. She reconnected with a guy we all grew up with who at 50 years old was driving a truck that mom and dad made the payments on, while living at home with mom and dad and who has never held a job or made his own money or owned a home or a car at age 50. my friend at the time they connected was in AA for 10 years and her life had gotten back on track. We had a great relationship because she was no longer drinking. It was actually really nice until she connected with this giant loser. He called her of course because she has money and the very first time they went out of course she paid for everything and that same night he coincidentally said he had a fight with his mom and asked if he could stay in her guest room. He never left. He treated her like dirt and yet she pushed him and pushed him to marry her. I tried as did many others so hard to intervene and point her to help, and even her own therapist told her that if she married this guy, the therapist would have to discontinue therapy with her. I’m guessing that Therapist drew the line because abuse was involved so when someone willingly walks into an abusive relationship and stays I guess the therapist had had enough. This person is very judgmental of other people and yet she will turn around and do the very thing that she criticizes others for doing and it’s a very mind-boggling dynamic. It sounds very coldhearted what I said but decisions like this impact everyone around them. I was her maid of honor. Every time they had a fight it was me she called. She would text me 20 to 50 times a day telling me how awful he was and yet she stayed. She finally called the police on him and had him thrown in jail and all of this drama was causing chaos in her family and in our relationship. It was like watching somebody walk right into a freight train and you can’t do anything to help them. Of course, she went back to him and then blamed me for getting “too involved“ then she literally smeared my name, telling everyone that I was jealous of their love. The classic statement. This is not the first time I have been through this with her and toxic men. This is a pattern. I started looking at myself, asking many questions as to why I would be drawn to someone like this, who every time I try to help, she treats me like dirt and I recognized the pattern in my own family and the toxicity of these people that I myself was drawn to. I got into therapy and for the last 10 years have been healing from a terribly abusive childhood and toxic childhood. She and I bonded because we had the same similar upbringing. I went through hell and back with this person. She didn’t like what I was saying when I told her she needed to be strong and break free and then as a result, she would discard me for months even years. She would always come back to the friendship and I would always take her back. Over and over and over. That’s on me now and I recognize that. There are countless people that she drew into her circle and then when they served no purpose or told her things she didn’t want to hear her she would discard them as if they were trash. I’m sure my comment sounded cruel without the back story. Oh, and this guy when she connected with him had four DWI’s and a criminal trespassing charge. She willingly went into this and let him accuse her of being the raging alcoholic, basically projecting his own loser behavior onto her, and because she just can’t work through her trauma and her demons and doesn’t want to hear me or my opinion, she dumped me. She has tried to resume the relationship many times and I will never resume contact with her while she is with this person and drinking. I feel it in my bones that one of them is going to end up dead. It’s so horrifying and heartbreaking to feel so helpless and so angry at the same time of course that anger was years ago and not a part of my current life mostly now I just feel really sad for her because she could’ve had such a different and beautiful life. So again, when karma comes for her I won’t be sad because sometimes karma is actually what it’s going to take for her to make changes in her life. Somehow, I don’t think she’s going to come out of this and be OK. When she threw him out of the house just months after they were first married, he got a lawyer and they had only been married less than a few months and he told her he was entitled to half the house and half of her savings. Can you imagine. She didn’t see that as a red flag. He used her and married her for a place to stay and a checkbook. And then anyone who tried to help her she discarded. Maybe I do sound cold but at some point, I think you just get fed up.
@@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753 Actually, I responded but I don’t see my comment so I’m going to respond again. He did not love bomb her. He treated her like dirt from the start. She treated me like dirt for trying to tell her that he was treating her like dirt. Her own therapist told her he was terribly toxic and she needed to get away so what did she do? She dumped her therapist. Her therapist told her that she will not take her back or see her again until she is out of this relationship, but that was over 10 years ago. He had four DWI’s when they met and a criminal record. She was Mensa with multiple degrees. I’m sorry that you got loved bombed because it’s terrible. I bet though that you didn’t discard or blame your friends, when they tried to counsel you. She called me 50 times a day and texted me 50 times a day to tell me all the horrible things that he was doing to her. It was just a living nightmare to then watch her go back and tell him everything I said so that he could call me and scream at me and say I was trying to break them up. It was truly the most toxic and disgusting thing I’ve ever been a part of. I will never get involved in somebody else’s relationship ever again no matter how much they call me or how much they ask for my help nor do I ever want to hang around someone who doesn’t have more respect for themselves. I had to claw my way out of codependency because I took a long look at myself and asked why I would ever let a friend treat me like that, I got myself into therapy and realized that we both came from similar toxic families and she has chosen to remain a heavy drinker and live in that enmeshment world. I hope you are proud of yourself and know how strong you are for being able to break free and get away. It takes incredible strength to be able to do that. Not only did you save your life, but you probably helped the people around you who watched how strong you were and who watched you break free because living in chaos and dysfunction is a horrible way to live. I do believe now there are some people who need chaos because they grew up in it and they just cannot let it go. Some people don’t want to live in peace and calm and not to mention she is an atheist and so there’s an undercurrent of anger that prevents her from living a better life and treating herself better.
We always hear about the CEO psychopath but what about the low level, low IQ types that we all experience in real life. Can you do a video on how they, in all types of groups, create havoc in peoples lives.
❤they say repetitious words like Nunya Hey guy hey guy Hey friend I appreciate you Manipulative try to get you to invest in their “ business” which usually is BS. Hey guy hey guy
This is a good observation. They think and act in stereotypes. Like they just read some book on effective catch phrases to make friends and influence people. They are very shallow and surface oriented.
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A psychopath 'drained' my late husband's life 2 years ago after years of various forms of manipulation and torture! We'd known him for 24 years - my husband considered him a friend in spite of some odd/inappropriate behaviors. It's been a nightmare - caring for my dying husband (poisoned) for 2 1/2 years and coming to realize who had planned and acted in various ways to cause his death. There are many people like this - we need to be on our guard! The 'demon' I've described is active in his church - even preaches sometimes!
Wow, l am so sorry for your loss!
The "demons" are often found very close to the church...
You are describing my spouse. I can't handle his behavior anymore. I'm secretly saving up to make a quiet escape. I'm afraid he could become violent, so I'll be leaving when he is away on a trip.
All of this is pretty chilling but I would like to add that psychopaths can also seem to perform in social situations a bit like robots with a learned script which can fail them sometimes when their behaviour/words don't seem to match the nuances of the situation or conversation. I think the average person, once armed with education or experience of these types, can begin to detect these patterns of behaviour and thus disengage from them ASAP.
Lack of emotional warmth for sure… watching & calculating but not truly emoting positive feelings
@@einstein63 Yes, they are the ones who can’t read the room and will casually say something that leaves everyone else frozen with their mouths open in disbelief. And of course the psychopath may not even appear to realize they’ve just said something far out of the norm.
When I was still a child I tried to wrap my head around how my family functioned. We didn't have terms like narcissists or psychopaths back then. I figured, in my family, we were divided in two groups: the ones who took and the ones who gave.
Yup!
Garnering sympathy has become a red flag in general since learning about how to live abuse free. It's not always sinister when I feel sympathy for someone but I do have to apply a lot of reflection on whether it is a manipulation tactic.
Parasitic is *right* ! Intestinal parasites are a higher form of life than a no-good narcissist , sociopath , psychopath , or any combination/variant of the three .
We should ALL be doing two parasite cleanses a year!
You can make your own tinctures with brandy or vodka and wormwood, black walnut hull and cloves.
@@timmywitty1432 if it works against narcissists , then sign me up .
Thanks for this. I often wonder about the difference between psychopaths, sociopaths, sadists and narcissists.
Think of them as quadruplets. A quad may differ from the other three, and this may be true of each of the other three, as well, but each is far more like the others than would be true of four ordinary siblings.
So true...Was married to one for 18 years...
Psychiatry has yet to catch up to what victims have already learned & remember that many in the profession are narcissists too
Not much.
I am not a professional. But I was married to a diagnosed psychopath for 3 years, and I have known people with each.
Narcissists, psychopaths, and sociopaths all lack empathy and can be superficially charming. Here are the differences I have learned.
Sociopaths: are more power motivated like psychopaths but they tend to be the easiest to spot of the 3 because they are more chaotic. Sociopathy is also known as Type 2 Psychopathy mentioned in this video. Sociopaths are usually in and out of jail their whole lives. They are more impulsive. You won’t find a sociopath in the corporate world. They tend to be too chaotic to hold down a job for long. They usually grew up in really rough, chaotic environments where these traits were encouraged. Sociopaths are the people that will think, “oh I need money. Let me just rob this gas station real quick”.
Psychopaths: technically fall under the same disorder as sociopaths but psychopaths have better impulse control. Sociopaths and psychopaths are both power motivated. They like money to gain more power. They like to have power over other people. Psychopaths play the long game. They can excel in their careers. Psychopaths were usually chaotic like sociopaths in their youth but they learned how to control it because that is the easiest way to gain the most power. Psychopaths have a dysfunctional nervous system where they do not experience the “fight or flight” response. They don’t feel anxiety or nervousness. Psychopaths are impossible to spot. Even after being married to a psychopath, I still would not be able to spot one. Psychopaths usually also have narcissistic personality disorder so there is a lot of overlap, but they don’t need to be the center of attention like narcissists. They don’t have the same fragile ego narcissists have. Psychopaths know they are the best. Our marriage counselor said being married to a psychopath makes marriage to a narcissist look like a walk in the park. I feel that.
Narcissists: are all ego motivated, instead of power motivated. Narcissists want to gain money just to look better. They tend to project a cocky exterior to protect a fragile ego underneath. Narcissists feel extreme jealousy, unlike sociopaths and psychopaths. Narcissists can also have a low level of empathy, guilt, and remorse. Vs. Psychopaths have no empathy, guilt, or remorse. You may find a narcissist crying and apologizing to keep you around. You will rarely find this in a sociopath or psychopath.
Sadists: sadists just means someone gets enjoyment / satisfaction from hurting others. Any of the above disorders can also be sadists. They also may not be sadists. They may not enjoy hurting people, they just don’t care when their actions do hurt others.
Hope that helps!
Thank you for this
Wow, very comcise accurate and frightening.
This is why so many of them are financially well off and seem "successful." They have no problem stepping on the necks of others, taking all the goodies for themselves.
I didn't even realize that the narc was preying on my finances, my professional network, my social circle, my name... even now that we're separated, he's trying to get his hands on payment for work I'm doing 100% on my own. It's so disgusting once you finally see through the BS about 'the dynasty we were building together', how he could 'sell sand to the desert' but never seemed to be able to keep a job or stick to a business. How can you have all of the ambition but none of the skills or work ethic?
I think predator is a more apt description of a psychopath whereas parasite better fits the narcissist. The psychopath can go from prey to prey simply acquiring what is needed and moving on, but the narcissist wants a host to provide narcissistic supply over time.
Interesting comment! As I listened to his succinct description of a psychopath as a parasite I tried to classify my father as Type 1 & my partner as Type 2. Both actually stayed with their first partners for decades, so it’s difficult to see them as moving on for supply, but remember the narcissistic trifecta is always sex/cash/show. Although most narcs are autoerotic & possibly gay, they need feedback about their wonderful sexual performance or power over another… however, money seems to trump (pun intended) their supply line as they age. Surprisingly a show of normality, as in a monogamous heterosexual union, can be very important to previous generations, so even boomers can cling to the marriage. Since narcissists are incredibly insecure & more neurotic than psychopaths, it’s really difficult to decide… but certainly the psychosis worsens with age & eventually cannot be hidden from the public.
Actually, I think some narcissists will do it either way. My dark tetrad narc would've just as soon I died so he could take it all and move on quicker.
@@caroleminke6116Very well dissected! And I tend to agree with you on all points. My 72 year old dark tetrad narc finally picked the wrong girl and got overexposed!
Well, when a narcissist is love- bombing someone all the way into marriage, I call him a predator, because the whole thing is fake!
@@caroleminke6116I'm new at this, only married one horrible narcissist at age 70, so I often learn something from your comment. I didn't ever hear of the "narcissistic trifecta". Maybe Darren can cover this as a topic for a video...
I just watched the documentary about Lois Riess on Crave last night.. wow does she ever fit these characteristics!! Everything from the superficial charm and attractiveness to lure in unsuspecting people to the manipulation to get what she wanted. And finally used them parasitically with zero compassion or empathy. The crazy thing is that she didn't seem to truly show these characteristics until she was in her 50's.
They always spiral downward as they age
I would imagine she had them but got away with hiding it.
It’s ALL spiritual warfare!
Yes, I’m a victim of diagnosed psychopath ( F1)- pure horror! But I’m trying to look at the good side of the holocaust torture and senseless abuse I experienced; I’m alive, free and I learned so so much! This lesson money can’t buy and I turned this experience into something so significant for me. Today I’m grateful for what I have ( and I have so much- I’m not hungry, nor homeless and I’m free) and I don’t worry about I don’t have and any really not important things. Who survived a psychopath will see the world like never before and be grateful for every little thing that they never even noticed before. You will strive and I wish you the only very best!
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Thank you very much for your clear and sober presentation of the material, I find it very useful
Another name for Vampires!
Vampire is a polite way of describing an energy-cannibal and black-magic or negative-projection is their superpower.
Thank you for your brillant observations Darren. Psychopaths are more common than we think. Many people live parasitic lives and live by the rule that end justifies the means. Cold, calculated cruel, entitled, exploitative yet superficially charismatic, charming and allegedly full of concern and care for the greater good and well being of others. Lies and manipulation all along. I have been dealing with it for many years now.
You've just explained the last gf.she is now a nurse , so go figure, she claims to hate people, but likes helping them heal from sickness. The last part is telling, playing the marytr. the marytr and the vitcim are one of the same.
I used to think my ex husband was just narcissistic: that he believed he was entitled to status that he had not earned. Now I see his psychopathic, parasitic tendencies as well: he felt entitled to my resources as well: my income, my assets, etc. and was never willing to pull his weight.
Politicians,doctors,nurses,pharmacists,CEOs,Police
Don’t forget dentists.
And clergy
Not all obviously but yes, where there is power, status and money to be found; these positions will be disproportionately represented by disordered people. I would add school administration to that list.
excellent content thank you xxx
You just described practically every American politician/cop/judge , etc. in detail 😞
Everywhere around the world. Some have statues in the main squares of important cities in Europe.
Trump in mind as he spoke. Mussolini & Hitler combined on steroids! It’s truly scary to be an American @ this frightening time in the world 🌎 but today I voted early here in narcissistic Florida 💙
@@caroleminke6116Trump 2024🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉
@@caroleminke6116 yep , Trump's a grandiose narcissistic-sociopath for sure - Kamala & Joe are just as dysfunctional , that's the problem .
@@TheListOf Trump 20-24 years in prison.
By this description, it can be hard to tell, if you’re looking at a vulnerable or communal narcissist, in some ways. Either way, if you have any idea they’re Cluster B at all, hit the road!
Coverts are the worst, hands down!
@@caroleminke6116 they are. But, I’m also dealing with a malignant sister. Broke into the house I inherited and changed the lock, before I received the deed. So, dealing with the violent aspect is not fun either.
@@privateprivate8366sounds like 2 of my sisters who took over my father’s house while he was in the hospital & were probably planning to murder him if he came home but I warned him then threw my key inside & locked the door & walked away
@@caroleminke6116much harder to spot unless you have studied cluster b….this is a spiritual war!
Sounds like most politicians...
Yes, ran into them in the legal field. But also a sibling and husband’s ex -gf…. No fun
Everywhere in work or dating scene now
I would like to hear a discussion of how the world we now occupy, and specifically the electronic world, has given rise to epidemic levels of psychopathy. A discussion of on-line scammers in regard to psychopathy would be relevant to this topic.
There seem to be so many narcissists and psychopaths making videos about these two topics nowadays.
Aged ones die in despair.
great topic(ality) !!!!!!!!!!!!!
A guy who acts like this, moving from one to the other "host", but IS also good, kind & helpful?....
My stupid ex friend went and married one and he is so disgusting and yet she defended him and I ended up getting the boot. I won’t cry when karma comes for her or him.
Just repeating cycles in their dysfunctional family of Orin until they learn better alternatives
Wow, you are extremely critical of your "friend"! When you're thinking about Karma, you need to remember to look in the mirror. I think you have really forgotten the saying "love is blind." She probably was love- bombed all the way to the altar, as I was. I'd never even heard of narcissism or love bombing. Try cutting people some slack instead of being so judgmental it feels like you chopped her head off.
@@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753 wow maybe I should’ve given an explanation. I’ve known my friend since she was six.
She’s an alcoholic and we both came from abusive homes. She is known for her cruelty but I saw so much more in her. She’s heavily degreed and a member of Mensa, so very intelligent.
I started dating someone years ago who at the time drove a truck and had lost his job. She said to me “how disgusting I would never date someone who drives a truck and doesn’t have a job.“ Of course he eventually got another job and who cares if someone drives a truck. she very much is concerned with image so to her the car mattered.
She’s very entitled and grew up very spoiled. She reconnected with a guy we all grew up with who at 50 years old was driving a truck that mom and dad made the payments on, while living at home with mom and dad and who has never held a job or made his own money or owned a home or a car at age 50. my friend at the time they connected was in AA for 10 years and her life had gotten back on track. We had a great relationship because she was no longer drinking. It was actually really nice until she connected with this giant loser.
He called her of course because she has money and the very first time they went out of course she paid for everything and that same night he coincidentally said he had a fight with his mom and asked if he could stay in her guest room.
He never left.
He treated her like dirt and yet she pushed him and pushed him to marry her. I tried as did many others so hard to intervene and point her to help, and even her own therapist told her that if she married this guy, the therapist would have to discontinue therapy with her.
I’m guessing that Therapist drew the line because abuse was involved
so when someone willingly walks into an abusive relationship and stays I guess the therapist had had enough. This person is very judgmental of other people and yet she will turn around and do the very thing that she criticizes others for doing and it’s a very mind-boggling dynamic.
It sounds very coldhearted what I said but decisions like this impact everyone around them. I was her maid of honor. Every time they had a fight it was me she called. She would text me 20 to 50 times a day telling me how awful he was and yet she stayed.
She finally called the police on him and had him thrown in jail and all of this drama was causing chaos in her family and in our relationship. It was like watching somebody walk right into a freight train and you can’t do anything to help them. Of course, she went back to him and then blamed me for getting “too involved“ then she literally smeared my name, telling everyone that I was jealous of their love.
The classic statement. This is not the first time I have been through this with her and toxic men. This is a pattern. I started looking at myself, asking many questions as to why I would be drawn to someone like this, who every time I try to help, she treats me like dirt and I recognized the pattern in my own family and the toxicity of these people that I myself was drawn to. I got into therapy and for the last 10 years have been healing from a terribly abusive childhood and toxic childhood. She and I bonded because we had the same similar upbringing. I went through hell and back with this person.
She didn’t like what I was saying when I told her she needed to be strong and break free and then as a result, she would discard me for months even years. She would always come back to the friendship and I would always take her back.
Over and over and over.
That’s on me now and I recognize that.
There are countless people that she drew into her circle and then when they served no purpose or told her things she didn’t want to hear her she would discard them as if they were trash.
I’m sure my comment sounded cruel without the back story. Oh, and this guy when she connected with him had four DWI’s and a criminal trespassing charge.
She willingly went into this and let him accuse her of being the raging alcoholic, basically projecting his own loser behavior onto her, and because she just can’t work through her trauma and her demons and doesn’t want to hear me or my opinion, she dumped me.
She has tried to resume the relationship many times and I will never resume contact with her while she is with this person and drinking.
I feel it in my bones that one of them is going to end up dead. It’s so horrifying and heartbreaking to feel so helpless and so angry at the same time of course that anger was years ago and not a part of my current life mostly now I just feel really sad for her because she could’ve had such a different and beautiful life. So again, when karma comes for her I won’t be sad because sometimes karma is actually what it’s going to take for her to make changes in her life. Somehow, I don’t think she’s going to come out of this and be OK. When she threw him out of the house just months after they were first married, he got a lawyer and they had only been married less than a few months and he told her he was entitled to half the house and half of her savings. Can you imagine. She didn’t see that as a red flag. He used her and married her for a place to stay and a checkbook. And then anyone who tried to help her she discarded. Maybe I do sound cold but at some point, I think you just get fed up.
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Actually, I responded but I don’t see my comment so I’m going to respond again. He did not love bomb her. He treated her like dirt from the start. She treated me like dirt for trying to tell her that he was treating her like dirt. Her own therapist told her he was terribly toxic and she needed to get away so what did she do? She dumped her therapist. Her therapist told her that she will not take her back or see her again until she is out of this relationship, but that was over 10 years ago. He had four DWI’s when they met and a criminal record. She was Mensa with multiple degrees. I’m sorry that you got loved bombed because it’s terrible. I bet though that you didn’t discard or blame your friends, when they tried to counsel you. She called me 50 times a day and texted me 50 times a day to tell me all the horrible things that he was doing to her. It was just a living nightmare to then watch her go back and tell him everything I said so that he could call me and scream at me and say I was trying to break them up. It was truly the most toxic and disgusting thing I’ve ever been a part of. I will never get involved in somebody else’s relationship ever again no matter how much they call me or how much they ask for my help nor do I ever want to hang around someone who doesn’t have more respect for themselves.
I had to claw my way out of codependency because I took a long look at myself and asked why I would ever let a friend treat me like that, I got myself into therapy and realized that we both came from similar toxic families and she has chosen to remain a heavy drinker and live in that enmeshment world.
I hope you are proud of yourself and know how strong you are for being able to break free and get away. It takes incredible strength to be able to do that. Not only did you save your life, but you probably helped the people around you who watched how strong you were and who watched you break free because living in chaos and dysfunction is a horrible way to live. I do believe now there are some people who need chaos because they grew up in it and they just cannot let it go. Some people don’t want to live in peace and calm and not to mention she is an atheist and so there’s an undercurrent of anger that prevents her from living a better life and treating herself better.
@@yvetteandjorgenlarsen9753cluster b’s attract cluster b’s too….before victim shaming.😊
We always hear about the CEO psychopath but what about the low level, low IQ types that we all experience in real life. Can you do a video on how they, in all types of groups, create havoc in peoples lives.
❤they say repetitious words like
Nunya
Hey guy hey guy
Hey friend
I appreciate you
Manipulative try to get you to invest in their “ business” which usually is BS.
Hey guy hey guy
Hey Buddy! It was his favorite greeting to a male… but women got “You’re gorgeous!” 🤮
@@caroleminke6116 yes!! Buddy is one they used a lot too!!
Over messenger they repeatedly send the same wording until you answer. “Hey”, or “Hey you”.
This is a good observation. They think and act in stereotypes. Like they just read some book on effective catch phrases to make friends and influence people. They are very shallow and surface oriented.
Who wins when a male psychopath and a female vulnerable narcissist get together?
Sarasota Tim😊
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Sounds like Netanyahu
You are describing every socialist...
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And communist….sooo nwo!
Thank you.