An Unfortunate Clutch from our Bullsnakes

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  • Опубліковано 23 тра 2022
  • While we were in St. Louis, two of our bullsnakes laid eggs unexpectedly! One clutch looks pretty good, but the other... Well, we're not getting our hopes up for those...
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  • @LunatheMoonDragon
    @LunatheMoonDragon 2 роки тому +2330

    I found it really interesting that the eggs that seemed to survive being on the cool end were the ones that were still stuck together, seemingly confirming that being stuck together spreads out warmth

    • @Chaotic_Pixie
      @Chaotic_Pixie 2 роки тому +283

      not just stuck together, but in the center of the clump. Hopefully the sacrifice of the outer eggs will mean those inner ones will survive.

    • @rorysturrockstudios8278
      @rorysturrockstudios8278 2 роки тому +2

      Hi

    • @justlikeadream8883
      @justlikeadream8883 2 роки тому +24

      @@Chaotic_Pixie yea and I love how you said that it's so true

    • @inmydarkesthour2278
      @inmydarkesthour2278 2 роки тому +20

      But who leaves them on the cool side like wth were they thinking smdh

    • @juliusroman8616
      @juliusroman8616 2 роки тому +34

      Perhaps they thought Emily and Ed would be sooner than they were, and afterwards it left their mind until it was too late. Perhaps they didn’t know it was supposed to go in the warm end for the eggs to survive. Things happen.

  • @SoupyGal
    @SoupyGal 2 роки тому +1152

    It’s sad that there was a miscommunication. If you don’t already, I feel like you should have like a packet for the staff on how to take care of eggs when you guys are gone

    • @theincarnationofboredom207
      @theincarnationofboredom207 2 роки тому +122

      Yeah. Sorta like those little emergency folders they have in schools

    • @clarejohnston4729
      @clarejohnston4729 2 роки тому +53

      That combined with a training afternoon would help.

    • @ashleyswinton6798
      @ashleyswinton6798 2 роки тому +10

      That’s a really good idea actually

    • @idrabohm3678
      @idrabohm3678 2 роки тому +39

      If nothing else, you can reference the egg care videos you have already put out.

    • @annap5075
      @annap5075 2 роки тому +20

      Or have a a few trusted individuals who you trust to take care of the eggs that will be available at some point sooner than Ed and Emily’s, and would be able to help with and birthing issues. But maybe that’s too much trust…. I get their issues and worries

  • @linnywines8014
    @linnywines8014 2 роки тому +1234

    That’s so sad to loose so many eggs! Hopefully a few of them make it
    If you get a big clutch, you should label them with soda brands in honor of your new incubator! Mr. Pib, Pepsi, Mountain Dew, etc

    • @Dandylion567
      @Dandylion567 2 роки тому +16

      Aw, that's cute. A lot of them have symbols with the logos already (Pepsi, Sprite, Crush, most root beer brands, etc.), so it should be easy to differentiate between them. Plus, since they refer to the babies by their egg labels, having some named Dr. Pepper, Mr. Pib, or Mountain Dewd/Dude actually sound like names already lol.

    • @aesthetic_queen2248
      @aesthetic_queen2248 2 роки тому +4

      What is Mr.Pib??
      I have never heard of that soda🥤

    • @m0sshroom
      @m0sshroom 2 роки тому +2

      @@aesthetic_queen2248 I think it's like off brand pop

    • @sarahsullivan2230
      @sarahsullivan2230 2 роки тому +3

      @@aesthetic_queen2248 yeah it’s like an off brand Dr Pepper.

    • @Andrea-lk6qq
      @Andrea-lk6qq 2 роки тому +4

      @@aesthetic_queen2248 dr pepper is it's own brand (neither pepsi or coca cola) mr pibb, now pibb xtra, is coca cola's dr. pepper. it isn't an off brand.

  • @emiliainflame
    @emiliainflame 2 роки тому +1033

    Even though we can see that Emily is quite sad about the eggs, it's nice to see that you guys are not shaming your employee for that mistake. Sometimes dumb things happen and everybody can learn from other peoples mistakes :)

    • @HomemadePancakes
      @HomemadePancakes 2 роки тому +66

      Absolutely! I noticed this as well and it makes me super happy to see

    • @jennagrigsby9956
      @jennagrigsby9956 2 роки тому +121

      And I'm sure that employee feels really bad about it too

    • @shell2835
      @shell2835 2 роки тому +30

      Its not the employees fault they haven't revievrd sufficient training!

    • @NoxHowl
      @NoxHowl 2 роки тому +44

      @@shell2835 Yeah.. but... You work at a facility that cares for reptiles - especially snakes... Why would you put the eggs, on the cold side? I mean, why? Don't they know a bit of reptile care? - It's not a case to fire, but imo they would be on a strong advert.

    • @Byulicita
      @Byulicita 2 роки тому +21

      @@NoxHowl It isn't common knowledge. Maybe she laid them on that side so they put them back there.

  • @gd2234_
    @gd2234_ 2 роки тому +579

    Tips for preventing spread of mold
    1) don’t reuse the moss, you’ll just add spores and fungus gnats back into the clutch
    2) practice bio security between eggs. Don’t mark them first if they’re moldy, and when marking moldy ones go from least to most moldy
    3) consider a single use stamp for clutches, where you use it to mark one clutch and then sterilize it before use on another clutch. You can put out a small amount of ink into a container and use that instead of a pad
    4) don’t dry wipe them, use a paper towel that’s slightly damp or spray them before wiping. This prevents spores from being disturbed and flung onto other eggs
    5) have small tubs for moldy eggs to separate them. You can still label what clutch, but you don’t have the chance of it spreading to other eggs if they look good

    • @TheCrazyOrange
      @TheCrazyOrange 2 роки тому +57

      I hope Emily & Ed are willing to test run if these tips help any for their clutches! I especially feel like the reuse of moss after the gnats could possibly spread the eggs more

    • @xNagisaChan
      @xNagisaChan 2 роки тому +49

      From what I've seen from their previous years, even if super moldy eggs are directly attached to thriving eggs, the mold will not spread so long as the other egg is otherwise healthy. I did think the moss with the maggots on them was a bit iffy though.

    • @gd2234_
      @gd2234_ 2 роки тому +20

      @@xNagisaChan I’m of the opinion “why take the chance.” Thankfully snake eggs are resistant to mold when healthy, but in the case they experienced, id be putting them aside in a different tub to ensure as many healthy ones as possible make it.

    • @katherynedarrah4245
      @katherynedarrah4245 2 роки тому +3

      I've never found any of these to help/hinder eggs. Even the "don't reuse moss" one. Also, find me a stamp that can mark eggs and be reliably sanitized that doesn't cost $400 and I'm sure it'll catch on in the hobby. No stamp small enough can be reliably sanitized without costing an arm and a leg.
      Also the foot powder/jock itch powder is more effective than the "separate bin" method.

    • @iPyromantic
      @iPyromantic Рік тому

      @@katherynedarrah4245 I don't know what egg stamps are like, but there's a cleaning product called Force of Nature that's astonishingly affordable and VERY good at sanitizing. It's even been tested on wounds.

  • @shannonmccann3814
    @shannonmccann3814 2 роки тому +514

    Maybe it's time to give the staff a crash course on how to properly set up the eggs for incubation?

    • @melissah4084
      @melissah4084 2 роки тому +209

      Absolutely! Those eggs are income. Definitely worth a training session, and a cheat sheet for when Ed & Em are out of town.

    • @Megzsy98
      @Megzsy98 2 роки тому +39

      @@melissah4084 I agree, I hope the eggs they managed to salvage make it.

    • @lilg0thy482
      @lilg0thy482 2 роки тому +114

      @@melissah4084 I agree, but i also love how they seem very understanding and not just instantly firing the employee (hopefully lmao)

    • @angelcollina
      @angelcollina 2 роки тому +131

      I'm sure everything is being handled properly. It sounds like there was just some miscommunication. We don't need to make the employee feel any worse than I'm sure they do right now.

    • @shannonmccann3814
      @shannonmccann3814 2 роки тому +98

      @@angelcollina the problem doesn't have to do with the employees but lack of training on what to do during breeding season. Such as how much water to ad to the stuff used to hold the eggs and closing off all the holes on the container except for maybe two or three, were to place the eggs after they have been place in the container's.

  • @jenayandfamily7452
    @jenayandfamily7452 2 роки тому +198

    "That's just what we do here at Snake Discovery" **flashbacks of all there mischievous antics**

  • @rose444200
    @rose444200 2 роки тому +333

    With the issues you are having. Maybe a good idea to hold a class with your employees on how to properly get eggs set up to prevent anymore issues. Then mainly do a refresher course every year to remind. I know they aren't doing it on purpose but this helps prevent and educates.

    • @pyrosama1
      @pyrosama1 2 роки тому +53

      Fr cause I'm kinda mad at them, sure it was an accident but cmon they gotta know who they work for. Did they not watch any of Emily and Ed previous videos? idk I just hope most eggies make it through

    • @rose444200
      @rose444200 2 роки тому +69

      @@pyrosama1 Well, here is the thing. Emily and Ed should have also taught them. But then again all are so new to their spots.

    • @SuperYoshiInvasion
      @SuperYoshiInvasion 2 роки тому +24

      Yes yes yes highly reccomend, even if they just make videos explaining proper procedure for everything so they have them to show every new staff member and then they can just be rewatched every year rather than having meetings and taking the time out of their likely busy schedules

    • @pyrosama1
      @pyrosama1 2 роки тому +4

      @@rose444200 True I hope they teach em now and the crew learns from this

    • @caseybarnes4221
      @caseybarnes4221 2 роки тому

      But they said it was them that threw them in the container... so I don't know who should be learning from how to fix their own issues.

  • @ashthealien3621
    @ashthealien3621 2 роки тому +502

    As awful as the circumstances were with this cluch, I feel like it was very educational for a 'worst case scenario'. Hoping the clutch pulls through!

    • @DarkMidnightDreamz
      @DarkMidnightDreamz 2 роки тому +3

      I totally feel the same! I know it’s unfortunate, but I also learned so much from this video.

    • @avengelazrael789
      @avengelazrael789 2 роки тому

      Agreed! It was nice to see what to do should things go wrong.

  • @missatralissa
    @missatralissa 2 роки тому +29

    I feel so bad for the employee that made the mistake with the eggs. If that had been me I would be crying nonstop.

  • @friisps
    @friisps 2 роки тому +437

    That’s so sad and unfortunate, I’m sorry that happened. I love watching eggs and hatching.

  • @bragny
    @bragny 2 роки тому +137

    Love how I said to myself "incubate till there is no debate" before even clicking on this video just because of the title 😂 This sentence is burned into my head apparently

  • @Kristina__K
    @Kristina__K 2 роки тому +148

    I'm really disappointed at the amount of people thinking this is the employee's fault. There is clearly a lack of training here, the onus of which is always on the managers/owners to provide. Given the recent issues, I'm sure Emily and Ed have realised they need to up the training they provide to their staff and are already working on it :)

  • @chevyfish4028
    @chevyfish4028 2 роки тому +272

    Such a brave smile in the face of loss. Hopefully the rest will pull through & you get cool little sneks. 🐍

  • @theogrhino1144
    @theogrhino1144 2 роки тому +79

    A long time ago when I first started breeding snakes my king snake laid a bunch of slug eggs (well what looked like slugs) they were yellow lopsided and some of them were caved in but it being my first time I had a hard time throwing them away so I incubated them with the rest of the eggs I got that season well 60 or so days later they started to pipping it’s just proof incubate till there is no debate

  • @MadHatta555
    @MadHatta555 2 роки тому +87

    Maybe there should be a booklet or signage to help remind staff what to do when you guys are gone? Probably would help if you ran a mandatory meeting for brumation, laying season, and hatching season to keep everyone up to date and keep eggs from going bad. I know this is the first real breeding season at the facility and you guys are crazy busy, but it would help your employees that don't have breeding experience to know what to do in cases like this!

  • @CMUchippewa
    @CMUchippewa Рік тому +5

    Emily never gives up on any eggs and animals that's why she is the one who helps hatch the eggs I love your channel ❤

  • @allegro65
    @allegro65 2 роки тому +20

    There are two things I particularly love about this video. The first is your excitement over these new clutches of eggs. The second is Ed's excitement over getting to say Uranus on video. 🤣

  • @yamiryushi
    @yamiryushi 2 роки тому +88

    This is a good learning experience in what the staff needs to be properly trained on. It does suck it cost the lives of a few noodles though but now the staff will be much wiser for it and learned a crucial knowledge point in working with reptiles.

    • @aussiecountry9320
      @aussiecountry9320 2 роки тому +17

      I think this is the best way to look at it. This is a learning curve year for both staff and Ed and Emily.

    • @houndgirl7365
      @houndgirl7365 2 роки тому +14

      I mean they aren't lives it's just a single cell organism that has the potential for life. Just an important distinction to make here. I do agree the staff should be trained, however we don't know how much was the staff vs how much it was just a bad clutch of eggs that could've ended up with the same result with Emily and Ed even being there. Things happen that are simply out of our control. It's just not right to pin it on the staff when it's not known for sure. Could there have been more moisture and aeration. Sure, but it doesn't mean those factors alone are what caused this.

    • @amandamimic2725
      @amandamimic2725 2 роки тому +9

      @@houndgirl7365 A fertilized egg is alive. It grows, maintains it's internal environment, ect - or doesn't in which case it dies. The egg would be potential for life if unfertilized and could become fertilized.

    • @theaudiobookaficionado
      @theaudiobookaficionado 2 роки тому +25

      @@amandamimic2725 an egg is not a snake. it's an egg. all of those eggs that went bad never even had time to form an embryo so no, a snake did not die, which is what i believe hound girl was rightfully clarifying.

    • @houndgirl7365
      @houndgirl7365 2 роки тому

      @@amandamimic2725 no because life is at first breath. It's technically a single cell organism that's the definition of what an egg is. Just because they are fertilized does not mean they end up making it to hatching. There are plenty of baby snakes that fully develope, but just do not make it thus 'potential for life' a fertilized egg is not a life until it hatches. I kind of correlate it to fetuses in that respect.

  • @kimmills7707
    @kimmills7707 2 роки тому +218

    When you were talking about seeing the veins/embryo in the moldyegg it made me wonder “can you candle reptile eggs like you can chicken eggs?“

  • @6ngelic
    @6ngelic 2 роки тому +10

    Pluto is the planet of death and rebirth!! So let’s see what happens! I’m rooting for that egg haha

  • @anas.3253
    @anas.3253 2 роки тому +83

    Considering that the snakes in the zoo are showing so much breeding behavior and that unexpected things seem to happen every time you guys are away, maybe it would be a good idea to give a crash course on incubating snake eggs to all of your staff. Just have them all come in early before opening one day or on a day that you’re closed and give them a class on it. Doesn’t have to be super detailed, just giving them all the basics. That way no matter what happens while you guys are away, there’s always someone there who can collect the eggs and put them in incubation safely until you guys get back to film the clutch. Seems like such a shame that those eggs might not make it do to some miscommunication. 😕 Both Shakira’s and Priscilla’s clutches have so much potential to be absolutely amazing, if they make it. Best of luck to those eggies!

    • @TealVT
      @TealVT 2 роки тому +12

      unfortunately yeah, it definitely seems like emily and ed are a bit overwhelmed and haven't had time to think of all the situations they may need to train staff on, such as surprise eggs.
      i'm a bit surprised they didn't realise it would be an issue considering how much they travel

  • @amywolfie9
    @amywolfie9 2 роки тому +6

    I think I would die if my mistake was on the internet forever 😅 big hugs to the staff member, hopefully they don’t feel too bad ❤️

  • @shinycharizard5869
    @shinycharizard5869 2 роки тому +262

    for the images on the eggs why dont you do a really long snake? like the first egg has the head and the last egg has the tail and all the eggs in the middle have segments of the body? can make the body segments different to tell them apart with stars or other patterns

  • @thebreaddealer4942
    @thebreaddealer4942 2 роки тому +187

    Everyone in your channel is so down to earth and happy, I really love your channel. Good example of great reptile keepers, all the love to you all.

  • @ShadowHat
    @ShadowHat 2 роки тому +58

    I feel so bad for the employee, they must feel really bad for the mixup. It's a good opportunity to lurn and improve. 100% respect for not shaming them for their mistake, awesome vid as always!

    • @AK-wb2ww
      @AK-wb2ww 2 роки тому

      *learn not lurn

  • @gd2234_
    @gd2234_ 2 роки тому +37

    Definitely consider instructions for staff next year. A little laminated cheat sheet/checklist for collecting/incubating could work well

  • @jenayandfamily7452
    @jenayandfamily7452 2 роки тому +41

    That's so unfortunate! Love you guys and your new end card, to!

  • @pinkjinx876
    @pinkjinx876 2 роки тому +135

    For next time, consider leaving a detailed instructions packet for your staff if you leave. This way, they feel more prepared and this doesn’t happen again.

    • @terri3715
      @terri3715 2 роки тому +13

      @@amybarratt4227 It was just a suggestion based on what we have seen, this is not the first time the staff mishandled eggs.

    • @Athena908
      @Athena908 2 роки тому +26

      @@amybarratt4227 Because their staff clearly dropped the ball in this instance, which indicates that either they don’t know what to do, or don’t care enough to do it properly. And since I won’t automatically assume malice when ignorance is a much more likely cause, I’m going to think that no, someone didn’t know what they were doing.

    • @terri3715
      @terri3715 2 роки тому +11

      @@amybarratt4227 no where did i claim that they haven't likely already considered it however considering their zoo has not been open for long and this is already the second issue they have had with staff mishandling eggs it seems like they may have to go back over training as least in regards to breeding and eggs.

    • @amybarratt4227
      @amybarratt4227 2 роки тому +3

      @@Athena908 it was an unfortunate mistake. They will handle it. I don’t see how a comment is going suddenly open their eyes to this situation.

    • @amybarratt4227
      @amybarratt4227 2 роки тому +1

      @@tripsupstairs And what is your point?

  • @Kaalokalawaia
    @Kaalokalawaia 2 роки тому +202

    Has anyone ever used cinnamon to stop the mold? You can use cinnamon to stop mold on plants and soil. Just curious.

    • @novasgalaxy3652
      @novasgalaxy3652 2 роки тому +19

      That's wat I was thinking, cuz it'll also kill the fungus gnats n larvae.

    • @_Fizel_
      @_Fizel_ 2 роки тому +39

      The main issue with that is the babies possibly inhaling or ingesting it when they hatch. Also it would probably attract bugs.

    • @usernamedaniedmrg
      @usernamedaniedmrg 2 роки тому +12

      Fish methylene blue in the water usually works really well to prevent any molding

    • @KimberDillon4
      @KimberDillon4 2 роки тому +9

      Don't most insects hate cinnamon? I know it's a good deterrent for ants....

    • @vvampyra
      @vvampyra 2 роки тому +2

      @@_Fizel_ you could definitely get it off before they hatch

  • @manifestationsofasort
    @manifestationsofasort 2 роки тому +26

    Dog owners: *Names their dog Bailey*
    Cat owners: *Names their cat Meatball*
    Snake owners: *Names their snake Mr. Stealyourgirl*

  • @sillyface6950
    @sillyface6950 2 роки тому +17

    When things don't go to plan and you end up with a very doubtful clutch, you could put smiley faces on them.
    The smiley face : ) would be a easy way to mark them while not having a theme but still maintaining a image on them.
    Plus a happy face may cause happy eggs and happy baby snakes.

  • @luvyluck1
    @luvyluck1 2 роки тому +28

    Oh no, how unfortunate! Sending you all the good vibes for the clutch to hopefully still make it.

  • @wrenpen
    @wrenpen 2 роки тому +87

    it's so sad that someone messed up that bad (hope the staff member is okay), especially when it was a clutch you were looking forward to. praying some of them make it

  • @reywashere5284
    @reywashere5284 2 роки тому +17

    I volunteer at Clint's Reptile Room, and yeah the terrifying fear of mistakes goes for both the expert and the learners. Nothing feels worse than making a mistake with someone else's animals, except maybe for being the owner who has to leave their critters in others' hands.

  • @inuyashasangelkagome
    @inuyashasangelkagome 2 роки тому +32

    :/ you guys are super nice about it. You’ve had a few miscommunications with employees like with Sable. I’d def train like one or two on what to do with breeding/eggs and things like that. I know you guys make guides maybe that would be a good idea. I’m sorry about the loss! Mistakes happen and I’m sure they all feel awful about it but that still really sucks. I hope they make it! It’s a learning experience for sure.
    You could do a video tutorial and have all the employees give you questions on specifically what they want to know In addition to what to do in different scenarios. We’d all like to watch the video anyway so it’s a win win

    • @gianna7510
      @gianna7510 2 роки тому +1

      what happened with sable?

    • @HinataElyonToph
      @HinataElyonToph 2 роки тому +1

      @@gianna7510 she passed away unexpectedly and they wanted to do a necropsy on her to find out why she died, but an employee put her body in the freezer by mistake instead of the fridge. They can’t necropsy if the body has been in the freezer.

    • @bellee3685
      @bellee3685 2 роки тому

      @@HinataElyonToph damn I didn’t know Sable had died 🥺😣

  • @starfire8142
    @starfire8142 2 роки тому +42

    I love you guys and I’m so happy to celebrate my second breeding season with you guys!

    • @KimberDillon4
      @KimberDillon4 2 роки тому

      That's wonderful Star Fire! What do you breed?

  • @calcyeason1814
    @calcyeason1814 2 роки тому +12

    Really time to teach the staff what to do when you guys are not around please 🙏🏽 they make it Good vibes

  • @candledapple
    @candledapple 2 роки тому +5

    Love that Ed used the Blue's Clues song to remember the planets, legit the same way I use to remember them :D

  • @srrfounder1
    @srrfounder1 2 роки тому +44

    Maybe a 'what to do' instructions
    list in your employees handbook
    might be 'helpful' to prevent further
    miscommunication? Good luck!

    • @Hadeshinai1
      @Hadeshinai1 2 роки тому +4

      also it could contain a link and time stamp to a video where a similar incident happened !

    • @Haghenveien
      @Haghenveien 2 роки тому +11

      I agree, now that they're in 'egg season' it would be a good idea to teach their employees what to do with the eggs so they know what to do in these situations.

  • @everlastingscribe
    @everlastingscribe 2 роки тому +5

    You know it was so kind of you to not name the person who made the mistake. I'd be heart broken if I did that. I mean the death of the babies is heart breaking, but then the time lost, and the money lost. OH think I'd just want to curl up and die. So thank you for that kindness to them.

  • @Thedancinggalah
    @Thedancinggalah 2 роки тому +8

    Maybe a manual on the egg collecting process would help for future egg lays and the staff. That way they can just refer to the manual and read a step by step process of what to do and what not to do.
    I wouldnt have known to tape up the vents either.

  • @joshmaroney9913
    @joshmaroney9913 2 роки тому +25

    Good luck little eggos, you can do it. Stay pearly white. Fight off the mold!

  • @nightshadekelly
    @nightshadekelly 2 роки тому +18

    It will be interesting to see if some of that clutch hatches or not. You should mark them with good luck charms (clover, rabbits foot etc)

  • @MusesWhim
    @MusesWhim 2 роки тому +5

    Sending love to the staff. I know you did your best and I'm proud of you for owning up to your mistakes.

  • @ohhhhdatzgreat57
    @ohhhhdatzgreat57 2 роки тому +5

    Mmmmmmkay so to the handful of comments suggesting an egg incubation crash course...
    If everything is already so busy and hectic with breeding season, the facility (both zoo and shop), being generous and looking out for a friend's reptiles when they have medical emergencies (who has hopefully gotten better... haven't watched in a while so if there was an update IDK ok), AND still providing UA-cam content to name a few, we really need to give EVERYONE here some grace.
    All of this is part of the learning process. Emily and Ed are some of the most invested people in what they do, and I know they have ALREADY done the proper prep work in training. I sincerely believe this.
    There are so many other factors we're not considering here: maybe a lot of Priscilla's eggs were sluggy anyways which is why they were quick to mold, the staff member is relatively new and didn't expect to need to do this so soon and thus they panicked, or the miscommunication that happened was truly legitimate and emphasized with the panic of trying to do what was best ASAP.
    We all seem to forget that we're human and that we make mistakes, but we're so quick to try and put the blame on someone.
    Why can't we just accept it was bad luck? It has happened before on this channel and the biology won't go off and perfect itself so this doesn't happen again.
    Trust Emily and Ed, as they know their business and staff better than basically (maybe staff watch, which you maybe haven't considered) any of us commenting here. Let them do what they need to do to address the issue, and let's appreciate that they took the time to use this as an educational opportunity.
    TL;DR: Please stop trying to tell those who know their situation best what to do. Let's just appreciate the awesome content and give everyone some grace for doing what they could.
    --
    Thank you, Emily and Ed, for continuing to be transparent with everything you do on this channel after all these years. Sending all the love and good juju to both of you, your staff, and the eggs this breeding season ♥

  • @dwagongirl-9327
    @dwagongirl-9327 2 роки тому +9

    The egg box with the moss is almost like intense care box.

  • @EvilValenStrife
    @EvilValenStrife 2 роки тому +2

    I'm glad that you guys aren't being too hard on the staff with this. I also hope they aren't beating themselves up too badly.
    Just a little more education and training to help extend your hand when you can't be there.
    Thank you for always taking even disappointing moments like this to educate all of us.

  • @BlackReshiram
    @BlackReshiram 2 роки тому +8

    all the good luck vibes and charms to you and your hopefully living eggs! i really hope theyll make it, that would be amazing!

  • @EmscuseMe
    @EmscuseMe 2 роки тому +8

    Best wishes to the staff! It was an honest mistake and you’ll make it a learning experience. Don’t feel too bad or guilty although I know it’s easy to. Be strong!
    Best of luck to the egos as well.

  • @LunaTheAngel917
    @LunaTheAngel917 2 роки тому +1

    I'm glad you were able to treat the mold so it wouldn't keep growing and risk spreading to the other eggs. It's a relief we can all feel happy for 😌

  • @raiderxs1570
    @raiderxs1570 2 роки тому +5

    Also works since Pluto is Romes version of Hades, God of the Dead.

  • @smckee42
    @smckee42 2 роки тому +5

    Looks like its time for a shop meeting about egg care. Call everyone in so they are ALL on the same page

  • @meelane
    @meelane 2 роки тому +41

    I feel like more eggs are molding then normal this year could there be a problem with the new incubator? Or is this normal and it’s just that there are more eggs so more mold is showing up because of that?

  • @samiaachard6118
    @samiaachard6118 2 роки тому +1

    Aww so sad!😥Hope the other babies have a wonderful life!!! ❤🧡💛💚💙

  • @thesecretroman
    @thesecretroman 2 роки тому +2

    It's so unfortunate what happened. Best of luck that some pull through and you get some healthy babies from them. ❤️

  • @terri3715
    @terri3715 2 роки тому +26

    Do staff not get training in regards to the eggs? and what to do if you aren't there? from what i remember this isn't the first time there was an issue with how the eggs were handled by staff.

  • @CelticRiver252
    @CelticRiver252 2 роки тому +160

    If you can use Lotrimin to stop mold growth on eggs after it has already started, would dusting the eggs from the beginning help prevent the mold from ever taking hold?

    • @_Fizel_
      @_Fizel_ 2 роки тому +2

      That's just a major waste then.

    • @CelticRiver252
      @CelticRiver252 2 роки тому +49

      @@_Fizel_ not necessarily. For breeders, that could potentially mean more babies. Higher hatch rate = more money. Definitely worth the couple of bucks it would cost to buy a few bottles for the year.

    • @KimberDillon4
      @KimberDillon4 2 роки тому +2

      See I was thinking the same thing....

    • @ally31098
      @ally31098 2 роки тому +33

      hm, maybe worth a thouhgt, but the powder is also pretty dehydrating, as humidity often is a very comfy place for mold to grow in. maybe the risk of dehydrating good eggs would also not be beneficial to breeding long term?

  • @ameliadriscoll8634
    @ameliadriscoll8634 2 роки тому +1

    Fun pluto info - It has water deep under its surface which acts similiar to molten lava, there is a huge portion of pluto where the frozen nitrogen boils due to the ocean of water beneath it.

  • @michaelhartford7382
    @michaelhartford7382 2 роки тому +4

    I don't blame the employees; sometimes these things do happen, but I hope there will be training in the future to prevent a repeat occurrence. I know Ed and Emily love their reptiles and are always excited about these lays and hatchings, but standard reptile care (and documentation of such) should be taught and made available for employees too since they aren't always there. I don't blame anyone, but it's something to consider looking forward.

  • @commandermercury6654
    @commandermercury6654 2 роки тому +11

    “Aw! You’re gonna make Pluto the dead one?”
    “Pluto’s gonna be the test one!”
    “Because it’s not a real planet?”
    Why does that still sort of hurt? Pluto’s been classified as a dwarf planet for over 15 years now, for crying out loud!
    Also a fun switch from trying to draw the actual planets could be to draw their astrological symbols. They’re a bit more obscure, but they look cool.

    • @kentuckywildcatgobigblue7190
      @kentuckywildcatgobigblue7190 2 роки тому +1

      Pluto has been a planet for over 80 years...not 15

    • @warriormaiden9829
      @warriormaiden9829 2 роки тому +2

      I find it hilarious that we as a species (humans) have pack bonded to a planet that none of us have been to. 😂
      Also, Pluto IS a planet. Always has, always will be.

    • @max_punch
      @max_punch 2 роки тому

      I feel bad for Pluto cause I always related to it lol

  • @brendanicholas7813
    @brendanicholas7813 2 роки тому +36

    Sad about the eggs. Maybe an inservice class for staff would be helpful. This is an important part of your store/zoo/collection. Good Luck

  • @Aemirys
    @Aemirys 2 роки тому

    Sending you all the good vibes you need!

  • @v4n1ty_
    @v4n1ty_ 2 роки тому +2

    I found this channel randomly; it is really a channel that produces quality content.

  • @Katiex_x2
    @Katiex_x2 2 роки тому +10

    Aww so sorry. Hopefully the next clutch works xx

  • @cutemew151
    @cutemew151 2 роки тому +3

    I hope they make it! I really hope the staff member isn't too upset about it. mistakes happen especially when you get to a new place,things and new people

  • @PayneInTheExotics
    @PayneInTheExotics 2 роки тому

    OMG the Blues Clues song! As a child I had a blues clues toy that would sing the song when you pressed a button. Mine had a malfunction so it would go off in the middle of the night. To say I know that song by heart would be an understatement!

  • @clairequigley2904
    @clairequigley2904 2 роки тому +1

    love that Ed knows the blues clues song! thats how i remember the planets/order still too

  • @ldnurse79
    @ldnurse79 2 роки тому +4

    Oh no, I’m so sorry! Hope they all (or mostly all) make it. I just want to fast forward a little to see what happens. 😁

  • @sshaa115
    @sshaa115 2 роки тому +34

    That's unfortunate... I hope you get better luck! Love you guys sm

  • @desiredbylili
    @desiredbylili 2 роки тому

    I use to watch them years ago and I'm finding them again just is amazing.

  • @Kaemea
    @Kaemea 2 роки тому +10

    Jock itch powder also treats ringworm, yeast, toe crud, and something else I can't remember. No need to be embarrassed.

  • @MarysWeirdLife
    @MarysWeirdLife 2 роки тому +11

    I think people are forgetting that when you two were doing this on your own there was a much tighter control on what was happening. The bigger and operation gets, the more hands you add to it, the more likely mistakes like this will happen. Yes they are avoidable, but if you look at probability, its gonna happen eventually. Even the greatest waiter in the world will eventually drop a plate or spill a drink. I'm sure you guys are handling it, and even though I can tell you are sad you still are very kind and understanding people.

  • @DarkMidnightDreamz
    @DarkMidnightDreamz 2 роки тому

    It’s an unfortunate situation, but it’s also very educational. I learned a lot from seeing all the different types of eggs, both good and bad!

  • @haleighgoff126
    @haleighgoff126 2 роки тому +1

    That Blues Clues reference was everything 😂 I sing the song too! Lol

  • @robraves1504
    @robraves1504 2 роки тому +15

    Very cute snakes!!

  • @rachelm8552
    @rachelm8552 2 роки тому

    Praying and sending good hatching vibes for all the eggies 🥺❤

  • @angelabrewer7418
    @angelabrewer7418 2 роки тому +1

    I wish y'all all the luck for all babies may they all make it even for the rest of the year.. no more bad eggs lots of health babies...

  • @SylviaAlcatrazz
    @SylviaAlcatrazz 2 роки тому +22

    I kinda want to touch on what others are saying, reusing the substrate already afflicted with gnats, maggots and fungus doesnt seem like a good biosecurity move or just a good move to ensure best chances of survival, I know you're kinda already counting your chickens before they hatch that most of the second batch wont make it, but if you're incubating til there's no debate, why not give them the best chance by upgrading your biosecurity and treatments for egg issues now that you're in the place to do so, with all the equipment and supplies you have now, it would be fair to assume you would be able to start fresh substrate for re-settling eggs, using better mould cleaning methods like a suggested wet toweling method in the comments already, on the eggs, and just general reevaluation of your reduction of cross contamination methods of moulds and gnats as its already a known issue and a potentially costly one to ignore or in this case under-treat both for potential snake sales and just the lives of the snakes in general that may have come to fruition in the absence of the gnat and mould attacks.

    • @TealVT
      @TealVT 2 роки тому

      yeah it worried me that she wasn't doing a very thorough job of cleaning up the mold :/

  • @mrs.playernull2704
    @mrs.playernull2704 2 роки тому +6

    This makes me so sad :( it happens sometimes, I know, but it's upsetting

  • @BreeDragoness
    @BreeDragoness 2 роки тому +1

    Mr. SYG is a very pretty snake. Looking forward to seeing any of his offspring! Good luck on that second clutch!

  • @ginamariewood3101
    @ginamariewood3101 2 роки тому

    Oh my goodness the cliffhanger 💕🥰 I must know what happens good luck baby eggs 💕

  • @loes6839
    @loes6839 2 роки тому +10

    Maybe it's a good idea to make some caresheets for the staff on what to do when there are eggs when you're gone. I used to make them for my staff when managing a pet store and it helped me a lot when something was wrong with an animal

  • @apparentlylife
    @apparentlylife 2 роки тому +5

    Oh no! At least we have a few that may still make it. It sucks that alot of them went bad tho

  • @terrylewis_
    @terrylewis_ 2 роки тому +2

    I don't even have snakes and I think I could put together a batch of pearlite pretty well after watching all of your videos. ;-) It's a shame about the eggs, but it's also crazy to see how quickly the mold sets in!

  • @KKSGCKW
    @KKSGCKW 2 роки тому +1

    Omg that Blue Clues song is so nostalgic lol. I haven't heard that in like geez 20 something years

  • @laartje24
    @laartje24 2 роки тому +8

    12:30 Please don't risk it next time when you are out of town, just let them be put in the incubator asap and you can show them to us at a later moment.

  • @parisinthe30sx
    @parisinthe30sx 2 роки тому +6

    I kinda feel bad for the employee who made the mistake. Mistakes like that are reason why where I worked-only the manager or owners were allowed to handle eggs.(definitely in this case since its a highly endangered bird) A learning experience though.

  • @amandaraelautner
    @amandaraelautner 2 роки тому

    Made my day that Ed used the blues clues song! One of those things I’ll always remember! 😍

  • @renyer4429
    @renyer4429 2 роки тому +2

    Ed and the Blues Clues song is just making me happy

  • @NoodleHausColubrids
    @NoodleHausColubrids 2 роки тому +7

    I feel the disappointment, I hope whichever eggs do make it to hatching are amazing, though! Hard for me to watch this today. Was waiting on eggs from one of my girls, but unfortunately she ended up egg bound. I do want to say thank you for saying what vets you use locally, I took her in to one of those mentioned in a previous video and they have been wonderful with her as both a new patient and an emergency. They're going to try everything, but it's looking like the outcome will probably be a spay. I'm just hopeful my girl makes it through, that's the only care I have rn.

    • @poke-talia268
      @poke-talia268 2 роки тому +2

      Hope she makes it

    • @Dandylion567
      @Dandylion567 2 роки тому +2

      I'm sure you're giving her the best care possible given the circumstances. I hope she makes it out okay, even if she won't be a breeder anymore. Her life is more important.

    • @NoodleHausColubrids
      @NoodleHausColubrids 2 роки тому

      Thank you both.
      @@Dandylion567 Right now all that matters to me is that she comes through everything and heals up to live out her days as a spoiled pet. Even if she can't breed, she's my baby. I'm just ever so grateful that I live close enough to a vet that has the experience to treat her.

  • @d-padqueen1103
    @d-padqueen1103 2 роки тому +8

    A friend of mine had his rat snakes lay their eggs UNDER THE HEAT PAD... It's possible she didn't like the hide he provided her or was too cool where the hide was, possibly even too low a temperature in the habitat.

  • @heyitsraee01
    @heyitsraee01 2 роки тому

    Ed, I was so excited to hear you use the Blue's Clues planet song! That's also how I remember the planets, and no one else ever know where it came from. I'm glad I'm not alone!!

  • @Nscarez
    @Nscarez 2 роки тому

    Welcome back home!! Glad you both and all the little critters arrived safely!!
    Awe its not terrible clutch loss. Always got look on the positive side having some eggs verse no eggs at all this season. Still is sad. This is good though if you think about it. Reason i say that is you guys can teach the staff, on how to prepare for these future situations!
    Also awee yay the planets am happy to see pluto was included, even though its consider a moon now!

  • @rorysturrockstudios8278
    @rorysturrockstudios8278 2 роки тому +10

    Love ur vids keep them up

  • @kaelgirard8339
    @kaelgirard8339 2 роки тому +24

    I really like your videos and hope to open a reptarium just like you and hope to meet you guys at Tilley one day

  • @heatheradams5500
    @heatheradams5500 Рік тому

    I love that some of these hatched! The moldy egg video!!

  • @Lionloverky
    @Lionloverky 2 роки тому +1

    Yes! Finally someone else who knows the blue‘s clues planet song that isn’t just me!

  • @KrissyMeow
    @KrissyMeow 2 роки тому +38

    Not being mean, but I'd definitely give any of the employees who may see or handle the care of the snakes who breed, just some basics of what to do during breed season/with eggs/when they pip. I'm just not sure how someone didn't know they shouldn't be on the cool side.

    • @studio_farrago
      @studio_farrago 2 роки тому +8

      Knowing an egg needs to be kept warm IS common sense. Preschoolers know that eggs need to be kept warm.

    • @amybarratt4227
      @amybarratt4227 2 роки тому +14

      @@studio_farrago We don't know what the ambient temperature is in the facility. Different eggs need different temps. Some eggs are fine in 75-80, while others need more. Warm is not an exact temperature. If they get too hot, it is just as bad for them. They incubate too fast and the babies hatch too early and end up having kinks and underdeveloped bodies with internal organs hanging out. Why is everyone in the comments suddenly an experienced reptile breeder?? Geez, leave the employees alone. I'm sure they learned from this, and at least a developed animal's life wasn't destroyed. It was just some eggs. They can always make more next year. I'm guessing a lot of people are upset here because they were on the waitlist for the eggs. In this case, there are hundreds of good breeders trying to sell their snakes. You don't NEED a snake from Emily and Ed. It's a privilege but unnecessary.

    • @twixxbar07
      @twixxbar07 2 роки тому +5

      @@studio_farrago Preschoolers have to be *taught* that.

    • @KrissyMeow
      @KrissyMeow 2 роки тому +3

      @@amybarratt4227 Or a lot of people are suprised that it happened since Emily and Ed are so knowledgeable. I would have assumed they would make sure their employees know.
      Constructive criticism will only help everyone and the animals in this situation.
      And no, not on any lists. I have no intentions of buying anything in the foreseeable future, if ever.

    • @KrissyMeow
      @KrissyMeow 2 роки тому +3

      @@jessicaconda4825 I absolutely agree. Since their channel is big on education, then suggesting to make sure that education extends to their employees is a given. I don't want whoever did it crucified, but they need to be told they did it wrong, and here's what to do next time.

  • @mrs.playernull2704
    @mrs.playernull2704 2 роки тому +3

    I made this comment on the last video, it got a heart but then I edited it andnthe heart got removed 😅
    Few ideas for egg clutch themes:
    -Birthday Themed (just because the last batch of babies were born on my birthday)
    -Prime Numbers
    -Pizza Toppings
    -Emoticons (rather than emojis, use XD, XP, :D, etc)
    -Countries
    -Sea Animals
    -Different Types Of Leaves Or Trees
    -Constellations
    -Peppers
    -Video Games
    -Minecraft Blocks
    -Irregular Shapes (this one could be fun for different staff members as well, you each label one egg and try to make none of them look exactly the same)
    -Uncommon Emojis
    -Gravity Falls Zodiac (look it up if you don't know it :D)
    -Owl House Glyphs (same thing, feel free to look it up if you don't know it!)