WE BRED A NEW MORPH OF GARTER SNAKE!!
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2024
- Can you believe it?! We can't! Our pair of golden plains garters (Thamnophis radix) had golden babies, thus proving their colors to be a genetic morph!! This is BIG in the garter snake world!
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You mean to tell me snake discovery... Made a snake discovery?
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YESSSS
I was waiting for someone to comment this 😂
Gasp :0
They've come full circle
I'm the Emily they're talking about! :) Thank you Ed and Emily for how well you've cared for these amazing beauties I was so lucky to discover. They couldn't have had a better chance to breed and excel than with you guys. May those two absolutely beautiful Viridian Line golden garters have many more "clutters"!!!
How exciting! Congrats and love the name!
You should call it "The Golden Snake Discovery morph" since they were the first to breed it! 😊
What will you name the morph? How about Golden Emily morph?
Omg Viridian Line. Gorgeous.
thanks you so much to have helped bring more diversity to the breeding pool
It makes me so happy to see my childhood UA-camrs go from little care guides and reptile videos in the kitchen and reptile room, to buying the facility and the building updates, to opening the zoo, to discovering and successfully breeding a brand new morph❤
Yes so true❤
Yes! I’ve been following them since they had a few hundred suibscribers all the way to now it’s insane!
True. I remember the first vid-
Can we call that baby Cotton Eye Joe because of all the "where did you come from? Where did you go" that was said from trying to find him 😂
Or Chili for when she’s putting him away and goes “let’s put that baby back, baby back,…” 😂
WHERE DID YOU COME FROM WHERE DID YOU GO WHERE DID YOU COME FROM *C O T T O N E Y E J O E*
I came here just to say that! 😅
Emily: "We're going to have to tear apart this enclosure."
Ed: "That's not going to be fun."
Emiliy: "It's going to be awesome!"
Two types of people 😂
@@kiaradoesart9682glass half empty marries glass half full
Her excitement is the best ❤
I sort of figured that since these babies are such a good size they were probably not born the day you found them they were probably at least a couple days old
YIPEEEEEE
I missed Garter Snake baby videos, seeing a new video of baby garters makes me happy.
Call it the umbrea garter snake if not om-bry
Same, I loved watching them!
brooooooooo they're so tiny and cute 🥺
Me too! They’re adorable little guys
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The intro of her just going " OMGGG- YOU HAD BABBIEESSS" and just snatching the baby snake has me rolling lmao
Lol and the little snake is just like "👀"
“ YOINK “
@@breannathompson9094 good job
i would have called it a Gilded Morph, because some snakes have morphs specifit to the breeds, so it would help with any confusion, and still keep the gold part
This is an awsome idea
like gilded blackstone from minecraft!
You should get a dna test done to check if it's a family pair. If they're rare morph highly unlikely that two unrelated pair would be found so close to each other unless the golden color lends itself to blending in in the area where they were found.
Yeah, I think the adults are probably littermates. That'd make the most sense. If it's recessive (which seems most likely ATM), their parents might've been two het normals.
That would be my concern. A lot of lineages start with pairing closely related individuals, but it's not a great way to start a lineage, either. I would hope that the plan is to breed either one of the parents, or the babies, to a normal and go from there.
@ZephImmortal probably next step is to breed a het and determine if it's dominant or recessive and strengthen the bloodline.
That was my first thought when I heard they were both found by the same person. They're most likely related, maybe even littermates if such a one in a million thing happened twice so close together in both area and time
Breeding siblings isn't as bad with snakes as it is with other animals or humans, but it probably shouldn't be done more than once.
It's interesting that they were found in the same area. That suggests that either the locality allowed the genetic trait to be advantageous enough for it to show up in more than one snake, OR that they were immediately related to each other (ex. clutter-mates). You should hold a couple back to try to outcross them to wild-type Plains Garter Snakes or albino Plains and sus out whether it's dominant or recessive over the others or has any interesting codominances.
I was thinking the parents are likely siblings
Emily mentioned someone with golden plains males had contacted them and she and Ed were considering swapping with them to bring in diverse bloodline
@@SHENworks Yeah, I made my comment before I got to the end of the video where she mentioned that, and their plans to hold back the entire clutter. Just didn't feel like going back and editing my comment. That's really cool though, I'd be interested in knowing when/where that other female that gave birth to the males was caught and whether it was the same time/place.
I need bloopers for their store ad, including Ed’s face while he’s throwing stuff 😂
that would be fun
I love how their bellies are blue. It’s so weird because it’s like yellow to blue which I’ve never seen any type of snake have that I’ve seen yellow to green green yellow, but not yellow to blue.❤
Lol
Of all creator ads, yours is my favorite, it's so silly and informative at the same time, I don't find myself bored, walking away, or potentially skipping it... It's like part of the video content!
AYO fishing also has hilarious ads that you would never want to skip.
This means so much- thank you! We'll only use this one a few more times before changing it up. Jerry has been getting into more shenanigans at work...
I can’t wait to meet you again Emily and next time I come to Minnesota just am getting a snake!!!!!!
It gives 90's kids TV channel ads aimed at kids and I love it! 😂
Yes!! I miss the old hello fresh ads with ally “helping” to cook
Good on you for giving naming rights to the person who found them- Virdian Goldens is an awesome name. What incredible luck!
Viridian* but yea. I totally agree.
Also, not trying to be snarky in correcting you. I had to double check myself.
viridian is green tho im confused
@@broccloi I don’t know. I just assumed it was the last name of the person who found them. 🤷🏻♀️
@@broccloi they're a bit greenish, looking closely
@@broccloiThe commenter who claimed to be the founder of the 2 wild one's username is viridianeye, so it may be their name/nickname.
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"There you go, you're freeeEEEEEE"
LOVED THIS PART LOL, YOU NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE US
Emily is like a 6 year old on Christmas in this video lol :D You can't help but smile at the excitement.
When you said "found in the same-ish area" and "extremely rare morph" my first thought was that they're probably siblings, given how unlikely it seems to be for multiples to be born in one region without having the same parent(s).
But looking at the comments, I'm seeing that potentially others have found similar ones in the wild, so maybe not siblings but I'd still be very interested in a genetic test to see how related they are either way.
Exactly what I was thinking. That also means that the babies would be inbred.
@@charlesericksonclamornoril3446 inbreeding isn't an issue as much in snakes as long as it's not done excessively like it has been with some morphs for example the spider morph in ball pythons has been so inbred that neurological issues developed and has basically been bred into the morph, most morphs need to be inbred for a generation or so to prove that it's a genetic traits and then gets bred out to other blood lines and eventually reintroduced to the original line to strengthen the blood line and reduce the chance of issues showing up from breeding
That's common in snakes
@@kristaj428 the gene that makes them golden seems to be recessive so it might not be a good idea that the offsprings remain inbred.
@@charlesericksonclamornoril3446yea im excited to see next year if they breed each of them to wild-types and see what happens. They can figure out if it's recessive or dominant, but im guessing recessive because of how rare they seem to be. If nothing else, they can at least add some outside genes to the bloodline, maybe trade babies or do a breeding loan of the adults with that other guy who has a female.
Inbred for one or two generations with snakes is okay, but it definitely isn't what you want longterm.
Emily: "I don't know if you can tell how excited I am!"
Emily, we can tell how excited you are EVERY time there are new babies. This is no exception. 😂
The yellow stripes remind me of how everyone used to draw sun's in the corner of the page, they look like they've got little sun stripes
Calling them Golden Plains is just so pretty and fitting, I don't think there's a better name for them. Congrats on the new morph!!!
If I was the person naming them and had to name it something other than golden I would call it the blue belly cuz of its blue(ish) belly
The sudden long inhale *realization gasp* when trying to introduce the snake was so funny. (x
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Emily has been defeated, slain even.
the sound she made on her way down😂😂
@@bitsandpieces1869that’s what I was thinking
@@bitsandpieces1869 MMmmMMphh
Your comment about the ‘very old red sided garter snake’ made me realise just how long iv been watching your channel
The pattern of these garter snakes look like those friendship bracelets that were so popular to make back in the 90s. They are beautiful!
Don's Garter Snakes has a FB post with Golden Plains garters as well (from a female wild caught in Montana; he posted several males in January born last summer)
Oh wow. Bumping this comment.
He's the person they mentioned possibly trading with in the video
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someone said they were banning keywords or something
My son suggests calling the morph Brass. We both love to play Dungeons and Dragons and brass dragons like dry, hot areas like savannahs and plains (and deserts). Also when brass tarnishes it can be blue, green or brown. So it fits for the blue bellies of the adults.
"Brass dragons crave sunlight and dry heat, so naturally they prefer deserts, arid savannahs, and similar areas. They spend hours lying on sunning rocks high above the desert floor."
Good suggestion!
Viridian comes from the same root as 'verdigris' which is the green that bronze statues, or copper building rotunda, turn when then oxidise. Think, the Statue of Liberty. That's verdigris.
@@Lori0TasVIRIDIAN GARTER SOUNDS SO COOL
@@curlygurly2112 fots too bc its greenish. Not golden
Brass is a great name for the male Viridian Golden!
Garters come in tons of colors naturally. There is an entire species that looks like where I live. So for anyone wondering, chances are your local garter snake population is going to have a unique color and pattern variant seen nowhere else or be incredibly generic looking It never seems to be anything between those two. Without knowing what species you're dealing with you're especially not going to know what kind of genetics you're dealing with(always double check your species when you have a weird looking morph because people do get other species for pets and then release them and cause localized anomalies). Usually it doesn't end up being a morph but rather being polygenic so I guess congrats on the morph if it really is one but I would want to see out crosses before I got too excited about something like this in garter snakes specifically given how much natural variation they have. Personally I think they look like they have tire treads for their pattern instead of the typical checker so you could call them tire tread goldens, lol.
Oh yeah if you want to see other species that look like this just look at any of the ones that live in Sandy or desert areas.
Sounds like you are in contact with Don's Garter Snakes out of Utah with the ones he got from the female in Montana. Really cool to see that you are in contact with him. Hopefully you can get some genetic testing done to see if its the same heritage or just the same mutation occurring twice!
You should do genetic testing and see if they are brother and sister since they came from the same area.
Yea this is what I was thinking, that seems more likely than this seemingly rare morph happening twice independently at the same time in the same area lol
Yeah I was thinking they could be siblings, to both have the golden trait in a close distance from each other.
In snakes, it's honestly not a big deal if they are. Snakes often interbreed in the wild. It really only becomes problematic if you continue to line breed generation after generation. Hopefully, the next step with these babies would be to cross them out to a normal of the same species, since this will 1. add better genetic diversity to the next generation and 2. determine whether this is a recessive or dominant trait.
@@Cleptrio never said it was, I understand inbreeding/line breeding is common and an accepted practice with snakes. I’m just curious to see if they came from the same clutch in the wild. Say they came from different clutches could that not lend credence to the possibility that maybe something could going on locality-wise? Not saying there is or isn’t, just curious, that’s all.
@@MastaT_150 Yeah some morphs are sometimes bond to the locality where are they found. Like the lace monitor is a good example of a local morph situation
Every time that first bit about the warehouse being stocked shows up, I just watch it through because the aggressive throw of SD Merch and Emily felling like a tree just makes me giggle 😆 Glad to see the garter snakes back!
I think I would name this morph the gold dust morph, they look like they got covered in golden dust. Would love to see some future videos of the babies growing up, but also see you guys test if these are recessive, dominant, or co-dominant by breeding them out to some of the other plains garter morphs or even just normals to strengthen their bloodlines.
Love the video especially the baby videos. So cute. At 14:06 another baby comes out on the log near Emily's hand, looks at her and then crawls up a different log and disappears. lol
Ed and Emily, did you ever find the 11th baby @pattistanford6146 mentioned in this comment?
Lmao it’s such an obvious one too. The gasp made me think they saw it but it was an isopod. 😂
It's not an 11th; it's the other garter rooming with them cuz he's too small for the zoo.
@@danieldonnert3747 I slowed down the video and took a closer look. It does look too large to be a baby. My bad!
You should try crossing it with other morphs to see how it mixes with other genetics! Im interested to see how it reacts to other morphs!
An idea for a name for the morph could be Trinket! Since trinkets can be golden.. lmao
Congratulations! Figuring out if it's recessive or dominant trait is gonna have to be something you'll have to figure out over time. I hope you plan to keep some of them to work with. They're gorgeous!
In the video it says they’re keeping them all :)
And if its a true genetic trait, breeding the two individuals is a great way to increase your testing opportunities but it won't be proven as genetic until they breed a golden with a normal (and then backbreed the babies together to test for recessive)
@@Lilith-Rose I mean, thats probably the plan long-term.
@@Lilith-Rose No, it's already proven genetic. But crossing with a normal will help them figure out how it's inherited - recessive, dominant, codominant, linebred, etc.
@ettinakitten5047 *if its a true morph, I have addressed the ambiguous terminology in my other comment but yes you are technically correct in that all variations in colour and pattern are technically genetic
Love the name that was picked. viridian line golden garters is very pretty. This morph is very intreasting not just because it's new but the babys especially look like they would camouflage pretty well in the wild compared to other brightly colored morphs. As babys their patter reminds me of dappled sun light spots though trees and grass! While i love the name i would have probably called them sunshine instead of golden, the shade of yellow they are really reminds me of sunlight.
I CANT THE INTRO-
THE WAY ED THROWS THE MERCH AT EMILY AND SHE FALLS 😂😂 " Jerry are you slacking off again? Whats with you and mukbang videos " 😂😂
Congratulation on the Golden Garders!!
(You should totally give them a special name relating to snake discovery)
Golden Discovery?
this this this this this
I want to suggest Wheat Garters... like Golden wheat
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@horsetuna ohhh they do look like a wheat gold
I love how the baby sheen on the golden color makes them look almost metallic! What a cool new morph!!
Those babies have got to be the brightest and most beautiful garter snake I’ve ever seen
A name that came to mind was Golden Braille Morph, because their spots look like braille
Its been so long since we've seen garters. These are probably my favourite snakes of yours. Very happy to see them again
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Emily's excitement over these babies is so contagious, and I love how Ed is keeping her in line like "hey we should probably do this before we do that" and shes like "okay! :D"
I loved how Emily’s brain stopped several times and Ed trying to bring her down to earth
I wonder about the likelihood of the parents being siblings, if they were found in the same area? Or perhaps theres just a population of this morph there
I dont want to be a downer but it has to be said, you'll need to outcross with a normal to actually test if it's a true genetic trait or if it's more of a locale that can be line bred since breeding two same looking adults is essentially just line breeding. The true test is if you have one golden and one normal bred together, if you do that and get half goldens or all normals then you will know it's likely genetic (all normal would indicate its recessive l, which you can then breed back to create goldens if it is a true morph). If you get just duller yellows by outcrossing with normals it's likely to be just a locale/line bred colouration.
I'm very excited for this revelation but it really needs more testing before it's a confirmed genetic morph, and even if it isn't a morph it's still a cool colouration
Edit for clarity in my terminology: when I refer to "genetic trait" I am referring to a single genetic mutation that is commonly known as a morph (its usually caused by a single genetic mutation, which can then be combined with other morphs to have different effects on colour and pattern) rather than the natural variation in colours between individuals and locations (which is also technically caused by genetics but is much more complicated and subjective in its nature since it is more like a sliding scale than the simpler and more binary morph vs wild type which can be proven out)
It is a true genetic trait because they are not the only ones with this morph. There was post from January from someone showing off his golden males born from a wild caught mom in Montana. Dude reached out to them and they never responded. And they they are blocking keywords in this comment section relating to it. Super shady.
@@whitneyk3708are they? At the end of the video they say that they posted and learned that someone else has them and they’re planning to trade some babies with him to strengthen the diversity of the blood line.
@@katherineannerivera1926 I made a comment referencing that they were not the first to breed this morph and my comment was auto deleted. Since then, I've been trying to avoid using the same words I used originally to bring to light how misleading this video is.
@@whitneyk3708 Just to bring to light how misleading your comments are: plenty of other comments are talking about it and your responses to those are visible. They acknowledged in the video someone else has them, so if your comments are getting auto-deleted, it's not because you're sharing some secret truth that is being blocked.
Linebred traits and localities *are* genetic traits, actually, just not single gene traits. It's weird to me that a lot of reptile people seem to think a genetic trait has to be a single gene trait. Polygenetic traits involve lots of genes that each have a small impact on their own, and that's what localities and linebred traits are - polygenetic traits - just like skin color and height in humans.
I would call them Golden Lace Plains Garters because with the speckling it looks like a lace pattern. so pretty, I'm so happy for you guys!
I love Emily’s enthusiasm 😍😍
Garters are my favourite snake and that morph is just stunning! Congratulations Emily, Ed and the person who surrendered the parents to you!
~FM :)
I'm in love with the racing stripe down their back. Soo cute.
Petition to name the new morph the Autter morph (pronounced otter) (The Periodic table name for gold is Au, and if you combine Au with garter you get otter which is cute.)
Watching babies eat for the first time is such a gratifying experience. Yay, baby Golden Plains(?) Garters! They're gorgeous, to boot! Congrats on breeding a new morph, guys, this is so cool!
These babies are so cool! I can't wait to see where this breeding project goes. I was googling around about plains garters and saw someone called Don's Garters that had a similar-looking one, but not from the Wisconsin/MN area. I wonder if this morph had a chance of some genetic diversity once you prove it out? Good luck with the breeding project. This is awesome.
Oh, I just got to the end of the video. I bet that is who they were talking about.
Such fun! would be interesting down the line of course, to outcross both the parents to 'normal' morphs and see what the offspring look like - just to see if there are any cool gene color interactions / co-dominance type things going on. Would also help to test if the morph is full recessive, or dominant, or just odd. Congratulations none the less - those are 10 lucky babies!
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Personally, I would have named the morph 'houndstooth," because the scale patterns look kinda like houndstooth fabric! They're beautiful babies, either way!
I had a farm 30 years ago and in spring when I planted early spring I always found bany garters in in soil around brush roots, red sided and many more 😊😊
What an exciting event this is... how fun!!! Congratulations, everyone! Spring babies!!! Let's celebrate 🎉!
the excitement is great, what a success!! You can teach DNA with these babies!
The tiny hard hat in Jerry gets me every time time 🥹😍
8:52 Ah, that explains it! At the start of the video I looked up golden garter snakes, and was able to find some garters similar to them, so I was confused why you were so excited, but if they're the first plains golden, that's awesome!
Wow congratulations I will think how gorgeous they will be
I was struck by how similar these baby graders looked to Emily's golden snake ring. Golden Garder for the win.
Emily’s gasp scared the CRAP out of me, I thought there was a 😵 snake 😢❤
I love garters! So happy for you. And I also love the ad. I always watch it threw because of how funny you made it, I love how your animals are the helpers. Its so cute 🥰
I can’t believe it! They are very beautiful! I’ve been watching forever and every time you post I immediately click on your video!
That first bit of ed throwing things at emily made me laugh unnecessarily hard
Such progress guys! I’ve been watching for years I’m so happy.
If they were found in the same area, the parent snakes probably came from the same clutter, so ofc the babies got the coloration. They're really beautiful!
So exciting!!! I love garters!!! Their patterning reminds me of the DeKay's!
3:38 When i saw you putting that firat log on the floor with the 2 babies on. They are actually really good at camouflaging seemingly on wood
Hey Emily and Ed! I’m getting my first ever snake in 2 days! I fell in love with snakes after I watched your videos! I have watched countless amounts of videos to prepare myself including your videos! You are the whole reason why I’m getting a snake! Thank you so much!
They look like living embroidery! Gorgeous!
Your excitement is contagious!! Congrats you guys!!!
Personally, I like Golden Garter. Simple, clean, gets the point across.
You know, its funny, when I was watching the Breeding Pair video, I was thinking how we haven't seen anything on Garter Snakes in a while. Then you talked about them at the very end...and now this video. Yay!
These guys are yellow to teal to blue- golden doesn’t quite describe the morph.
They are adorable. Love your videos- I think I found a new love for snakes. What a great job this would be to care for these guys. Who doesn’t love babies?
Tape the outside corners of that baby lid, I have a subadult who's squeezed thru even when clipped down!
Definitely worth making a trip to original site to see if there's more to expand the gene pool. These two may be related. Probably wouldn't make a video however or folks might get the notion wild caught is ok.
Nice new snake morph love your videos I’ve been watching all the videos that you guys post
I love garter snakes! These ones are so beautiful
Hi Ed and Emily silly question 🙋🏻♀️ but will we get to meet the new curator that will be working with all the snakes? Congratulations on all the brand new babies ❤❤. Yayy
I love baby garter snake vids, especially when it’s this special!!! (Snake discovery became snake discovery 😂)
You are sooooo lucky you braed a new spiches!!!!! Wow!!😮❤
Honestly I think your marriage is so special. You have the same goals and aspirations and that's awesome
Aww that’s so exiting garter snakes are so cute
Adorable golden danger noodle babies love your vids get excited every time you upload
I love seeing different color-mutations!! SO exciting! Even if it turns out someone else somewhere has found and kept these exact type before, this is still VERY early days for this specific genetic expression - Ed and Emily are very good about being honest with what they know in terms of researching, so they may learn more later and update us at that time.
Future advancements doesn't mean that the current excitement is at all invalid - we all live in a state of ignorance until we get curious about the world around us and make discoveries! It's like if I went into the forest and discovered a particularly cool giant rock - there's no telling how many other people had seen that rock before me, but they didn't tell ME, so to me, it's new!
You should try breeding them to wild-type plains garters to determine if it's a dominant or recessive trait, and to add some genetic diversity to the line you're about to establish.
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I'm so excited for this!! They're STUNNING
Congrats!
I would have called them "Golden Discovery" but 'Viridian Line golden garters' sounds very estatic and fits very well ☺
The golden garter baby's are so cute 😊
Ok hold up, after getting a better look at these I had myself a flashback when I was a kid I saw a garter just like those in the Wild except it was a much more mossy green color than the gold. Didn’t know what morphs were at the time as I was like 7 and just thought it was a slightly different color, wonder if it was a morph or just a weird garter
what adorable babies, it’s incredible that you were able to produce them!
“Plus we have tons of SNAKE DISCOVERY merch!!”😂😂😂
AHHH! Garter snake shenanigan?! I was catching some earlier!!!
I love how chill garters are. Even wild caught ones will just be like "Sup."
I used to play with wild garters as a child, and they were super friendly even though they weren't in captivity.
Ed:yeah thats not gonna be fun..
Emily:Oh its gonna AWESOME
Amazing ed and emily line ever
The way emily fell over in the beginning 😂😂😂
jerry is so silly he's just like my lizard today she was sitting down with one of my guinea pigs and then she put one of her hands on the guinea pig and tried to eat her she is such a silly billy
After all the years.. a true.. snake discovery 😂