Model Railroad Tips: How to Make your Own Gondola Loads & Save Money!

Поділитися
Вставка
  • Опубліковано 28 лип 2024
  • www.djstrains.com
    A lot of time and energy goes into making the best videos I can for you, free of charge. However the costs of editing software, storage, supplies and travel expenses always rise. Please donate to support this unique channel: www.paypal.me/djstrains
    SUBSCRIBE (Hit bell icon for future notifications)
    LIKE (Thanks in advance)
    COMMENT (even questions can be answered by fellow viewers)
    SHARE! (Please! Lets help fellow modelers)
    Follow on Facebook, Instagram, and Twitter: djstrains
    Tutorial on how to save money by making your own loads for your gondolas. Can use technique for N Ho or any other scale.

КОМЕНТАРІ • 127

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому +4

    Thank you. I know I'm not making any friends at Walther's, but we need to find ways of saving money in this hobby.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    I don't get notified, but I check "my subscriptions / new videos" daily, and watch a lot of them.

  • @1tombensky
    @1tombensky 11 років тому

    I paint drinking straws. Cut to length. Wash in warm water and soap. Let dry, then spray paint with automotive primer then final coat with desired color. You do have to be careful in handling them. If they flex too much, some paint may flake off. I have used very thin striping tape for banding. (1/16"?). It is a little out of scale. Then put a dotof orange paint to simulate the banding seal. Metallic silver sewing thread can be used for braided cable to hold loads.

  • @dannydanbo58
    @dannydanbo58 Рік тому +1

    Thanks for some great ideas. I purchased the Kato Mixed Freight Set and the gondolas are odd sized as no loads will fit them because they are smaller than other gondolas.

  • @volvofl180
    @volvofl180 8 років тому +1

    Well done, great tips.
    I made my own sugar beet loads for the Red Caboose General Service Drop Bottom Gondolas for the Southern Pacific. Please have a look under Olivier Vossing to see the vid.
    First I filled the gondola with styrofoam. Then I painted the foam earthbrown. After drying I added 2 layers of HO scale sugar beets together with a mixture of 50% white glue and 50% water. After drying I did put on a last cover of glue to make sure the beets stay in place. It's simple like that.

  • @curraheewolf
    @curraheewolf 11 років тому

    I use, and this is just me, I believe they are called hair ties, for women. They look like black rubber bands and are flat. One can find them at Wal-Mart or any beauty store. There are black ones and clear ones. The bands give the impression to be just right for banding. Easy to cut, wrap around a load for banding and easy to glue. A, very small dab of silver paint can represent the locking part of the band. Hope this helps! Happy railroading!!

  • @bruceames6332
    @bruceames6332 2 роки тому

    Love this video, DJ. These were easy to make just as you said. Thanks, Man !!!!!Bruce in Minnesota

  • @njRRtrainer
    @njRRtrainer 8 років тому +1

    You come up with the ideas - interesting and look really good... Many Thanks for sharing and your videos..

  • @disturbed1954
    @disturbed1954 11 років тому +1

    Awesome video! You gave me some really great ideas on building my loads. Thanks for sharing!

  • @markjolyn94
    @markjolyn94 8 років тому +1

    Another great video DJ!! Thanks for tge tip

  • @johnmiller2880
    @johnmiller2880 4 роки тому +1

    Just found this! Amazing! Great work. Your painting skills are above and beyond!

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  4 роки тому +1

      Thank you so much 😀

  • @RalphPCvids
    @RalphPCvids 10 років тому

    Very nice! Easy and effective techniques. Thanks!

  • @elpantaso
    @elpantaso 10 років тому +3

    Good enough.
    Thank you.

  • @suelinerr
    @suelinerr 10 років тому

    Excellent job. Great ideas. Thanks for sharing.

  • @katherinemorey6517
    @katherinemorey6517 Рік тому

    Hi Dominic, I have just made a very big gondola for my layout. It was made from a growth hormone box and I thickened the walls for more strength to haul more freight. I have also been modeling coal, rock every other kind of freight for large gondolas. I like to make small pieces of freight but unfortunately I don't have any weathering products for the scrap loads. I have made some changes to the layout in my bedroom and on my desk and I no longer have as many bumps in the mainline on my desk. I have a railroad that is like high speed rail just the freight version. The operations are like real life railroading, but time-lapsed to 60 MPH leaving and coming into the yard and 80 MPH for the mainline I use the layout as a super high speed freight company. I guess you could call it a race track that does what railroads do. Cory Mears

  • @bebopcats
    @bebopcats Рік тому

    Those gondola loads are world class!

  • @bgmarmon
    @bgmarmon 11 років тому

    I use Krylon Paint for Plastic but there is other brands made for plastic and short of bending the straw in half they hold up very well. these paints are made to remain flexable. I have seen other modelers add a dowel inside the straw for added strength where you would handle them. As for a coating on them I just run them through the dishwasher to clean them.

  • @retrainrun
    @retrainrun 10 років тому

    Another great video DJ! Thanks for taking the time to share your idea. :) :)

  • @chicagojunk
    @chicagojunk 10 років тому

    Great ideas. Thanks DJ

  • @curraheewolf
    @curraheewolf 11 років тому

    Great! Hope it works out for you and happy railroading!

  • @iamdarb
    @iamdarb 11 років тому

    Thanks for the tips! Some really good ideas here.

  • @whiteknightcat
    @whiteknightcat 6 років тому +1

    The Plastruct "pipe" had walls at least a scale foot thick. Soda straws or coffee stirrers might be a better option. Someone asked about banding. One option I've heard of can be found at auto parts stores. Automotive pinstriping can be found in small rolls of various widths which could be used as strapping bands - just stick one end of the striping on the load, wrap until it meets, then snip with scissors or a blade.

    • @dewanenerison2875
      @dewanenerison2875 3 роки тому

      I've used black electrical tape cut it to the width I want

  • @schadowolf
    @schadowolf Рік тому +1

    Great tips and video!

  • @davidallen6333
    @davidallen6333 7 років тому +1

    Very good ideas !

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    When you buy Evergreen styrene sheets with V grooves, sometimes they throw in the thin strips that were removed in the process of making them. They may also sell them separately. They are thin enough to bend (and break easily), but look good for banding. In the real world, they use a thin metal banding, which we are always on the look out for, because when it comes loose, it can decapitate you as a train goes by.

  • @MichelLongtin
    @MichelLongtin 11 років тому

    REALLY, you are very interesting and fun to see.
    more more please!
    Mi

  • @bruceames8172
    @bruceames8172 2 роки тому

    DJ , love this Video amazing how it looks after painting and dry brush with some chalks for detailing.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    Ahhh! Thanks, I learn something every day!

  • @BaronvonBavert
    @BaronvonBavert 9 років тому

    great work and good job !!!

  • @austinyingst5902
    @austinyingst5902 6 років тому +2

    I liked your rusty scrap loads, too.

  • @BALD8BIL
    @BALD8BIL 11 років тому

    great how-to video!!!!

  • @wolfgang548
    @wolfgang548 2 роки тому

    I model HO Scale and some loads I've made are baled scrap aluminum. I used 1/4" square wooden dowels, cut each piece 1/4" and wrapped them in wrinkled up pieces of aluminum foil to make 24" cubes. I also made some with 3/8" dowel to make 3' cubes. I've also cut twigs off the ends of branches from trees. Perfect pulpwood and log loads. Small rocks and pebbles can be used for rock loads. I'm preparing to make railroad timber trestle loads with the 1/4" dowels as well. Many things can be used to make loads with a low cost and even nothing at all like twigs and pebbles.

    • @w.rustylane5650
      @w.rustylane5650 7 місяців тому +1

      I also use the small match sticks from the small boxes of matches after cutting off the match heads. They're perfect for HO 4x4's. Cheers - TN

  • @angusdassler3052
    @angusdassler3052 6 років тому +1

    In H.O. I just cut up the pieces joining parts of model kits together and plum them in. I don't even paint them.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  10 років тому

    I would think so. Pipes would look good in a bulk head flat, very common.

  • @bgmarmon
    @bgmarmon 11 років тому

    Great looking loads, I am always looking for ways to model loads without going broke. The steel types you are modeling starts to rust right away, so any degree of rust would be fine. scrap sheet metal from a local tin shop make great metal loads, Drinking straws come in many sizes and look closer to scale for the wall thickness. Plastic corragated sheets used for signs can be cut to produce I beams, I get used signs from the local sign shop , Just a few ideas, Keep up the great work.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    Not yet. I've seen them done in larger scales, but not N scale yet. I may try making them some day.

  • @jrmccann3
    @jrmccann3 10 років тому

    Very good, and cheap!

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    Those were store bought. I still need to learn how to make my own, and will start experimenting with resin in the summer time.

  • @MineMountModels
    @MineMountModels 11 років тому +1

    What a great how-to video. Thanks for the ideas. what material do you use for scrapmetal loads?

  • @beatron69
    @beatron69 11 років тому

    Awsome!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @kargandarr
    @kargandarr 4 роки тому +1

    You are able to do something similar with the flat cars and cars that carry lumber as well.

  • @cnwtrain
    @cnwtrain 9 років тому

    Very nice job, I might add if you want to save more money on your loads. Regular drinking straws make good pipe loads. And they are paintable, once you prime them first.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  9 років тому

      I'm going to try that for my next loads. Pipe coating plant is awaiting some new inventory! :)

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    THANKS, EXCELLENT!!!

  • @fklenda
    @fklenda 11 років тому

    thanks i will.

  • @geomodelrailroader
    @geomodelrailroader 11 років тому

    good idea

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    EXCELLENT!

  • @TheMisterdan01
    @TheMisterdan01 11 років тому +1

    Great video as usual DJ! Thanks for sharing, you make a very detailed effect seem very simple to do-I notice you only use one brand of railroad paint in this video, is this something you would specifically recommend? Cheers, Dan

  • @Killbuck.Southern.Railroad
    @Killbuck.Southern.Railroad 11 років тому

    The striping on pipe can also indicate which end bolts to they other

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    My philosophy has always been "go for what you know". Polly scale is one paint I have never had any problems with. It is acrylic, so there is low odor, and it always mixes nice. Has the price gone up? yes, sadly it is getting expensive, but I haven't found a better alternative.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    THANKS!!!

  • @tech.future5427
    @tech.future5427 7 років тому +1

    asome

  • @D3ADAnry1717
    @D3ADAnry1717 10 років тому +1

    Thanks Dj. I just weathered one of my gondolas so this will go really well with it, but you said it yourself, gondolas always have stuff in them. So I am gonna put a very small layer of gravel and dirt (I will glue the dirt down) then I will put steel stuff on top. Do you think that will look good? I will post a video of it when it's done.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    banding= sometimes when you buy evergreens v groove siding, they leave the thin strips that were removed from from the plastic. It is very flimsy, so it can be used just like real banding.

  • @brockjames8920
    @brockjames8920 2 роки тому

    Interesting, thanks

  • @HotRodRodney25
    @HotRodRodney25 7 років тому +1

    you can also use drinking straws or dowel rods for pipe loads
    Rodney

    • @katherinemorey6517
      @katherinemorey6517 Рік тому

      That's a great idea. I also like your name. I like how Rodney sounds. Cory Mears

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    The thin strips of styrene that come in the packaging when you buy evergreen v groove siding. They also sell it separately. Flimsy, so be careful.

  • @pieseasmyseas
    @pieseasmyseas 6 років тому +1

    Love ur video haven't seen anything new from you hope all is well

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  6 років тому +1

      I did one the other day.

  • @DerrickODea
    @DerrickODea 11 років тому

    Very useful, thatnks for sharing, have you done steel coils yet?

  • @montgomeryrail
    @montgomeryrail 11 років тому

    makes me think i need more Gondolas for my future layout.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    Store bought coils and scrap, but will try to learn how to make those soon.

  • @revealingfacts4all
    @revealingfacts4all 11 років тому +1

    LOVE your videos, as you know, DJ!!! @5:05 there are two gondolas on the track behind the one you have steel slabs in and those have what looks like random debris. I'd like to know how you did those too. And what did you use for the coils in the gondola @4:02?

  • @katherinemorey6517
    @katherinemorey6517 Рік тому

    Hi Dominic, I am thinking about making a new load of steel slabs for my ROCK ISLAND train. They will be smaller than the normal ones. They will look like steel tiles in the gondolas. I don't load my gondolas part way. I try not to leave even a little space in my gondolas. I know that the real railroad has weight limits, but I don't like having a partial load on my trains. I fill up the gondolas all the way every single time when I can. The railroad is on an imaginary island like the island of SODOR on THOMAS AND FRIENDS. My island is called the ISLAND OF POULTNEY. I got that idea from the other island that I mentioned. Cory Mears

  • @thomassalerno5203
    @thomassalerno5203 3 роки тому +1

    Great job as always on to make GB GBS loads ...Noticed the steel coils You make those as well? Any vids available? BTW great snap of the Valley Yard at ET one of my old hang outs.

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  3 роки тому +1

      store bought coil loads

  • @george1532
    @george1532 11 років тому

    Hey man great video. The lighter steel slabs could also double for concrete slabs too.
    I just made some pipe loads with some wider tubing, width worked out to about 4 n scale feet, but I havent found anything for the banding yet. What did you use?

  • @thevikingwolfpack836
    @thevikingwolfpack836 8 років тому

    have not tried it yet but seen a pic of plastic ones an looked to me it would be almost identical.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    I don't airbrush yet (new years resolution to learn), but when the garage gets warmer, I will try. I have some friends on here that do airbrush very well, so maybe they can help you. ask NSTrainFan, he might be able to help.

  • @caseyjonesfan
    @caseyjonesfan 10 років тому

    i take whats at the bottom of my coal box when im done (what is to small for the stove to burn) and they dont look the best but its cheap

  • @thevikingwolfpack836
    @thevikingwolfpack836 8 років тому

    need a guide to keep the foil square an something to hold it tight when rolling it.

  • @thevikingwolfpack836
    @thevikingwolfpack836 7 років тому +1

    had another idea for car loads those little spools for sowing (the little metal ones )

  • @colnagocowboy
    @colnagocowboy 7 років тому +2

    i see alot of concrete pipe loads basic gray color

  • @fklenda
    @fklenda 11 років тому

    do you air brush and if so what ratio do use with acrylic paint and alcohol. how much paint to how much alcohol

  • @danielluebke
    @danielluebke 8 років тому +1

    Hi, thanks for the great video! Has somebody actually tried to build a gondola (not the load) himself/herself? Would be interested in this. But anyway, keep up the great work!

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  8 років тому +1

      +Daniel Luebke I haven't attempted anything more than using a flat car base to build something that, eh, didn't turn out so well. LOL.

  • @SGTDUPREY
    @SGTDUPREY 11 років тому

    that's ok they don't support N scaler's very well anyways. another great video.

  • @dacuzzz
    @dacuzzz 11 років тому

    hey dj...do get notified when i post videos?

  • @astrocling
    @astrocling 11 років тому

    Maybe I missed it DJ, but what did you use for your banding on the ibeam load? That seems to be what I can never get right. What types of bandings do you see on your real life loads?

  • @britblad
    @britblad 11 років тому

    what did you use to make the banding?

  • @glennClose-ty6lp
    @glennClose-ty6lp 10 років тому

    Those plastic containers. My wife bought a few from the same stores you mentioned and i almost flipped when she told me how much she paid for them. If you can, buy them from a fishing supply like Cabelas or Bass Pro Shop. cheaper and much more customization options.

  • @thevikingwolfpack836
    @thevikingwolfpack836 8 років тому

    had a thought on making your own coils ,you could fold aluminum foil an roll it .

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  8 років тому

      +George Ashing have you done one? how did it turn out?

  • @paulknappcollections
    @paulknappcollections 4 роки тому +1

    I need to make coiled steel in N scale. Any ideas? My father worked at the bar rod and wire mill in Johnstown, PA and I'm trying to recreate. Thanks

  • @Edward_Waterfield
    @Edward_Waterfield 10 років тому

    Thanks for your helpful video. I notice that you also have something like steel coils. Did you make them yourselves, too?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  10 років тому

      no, they are die cast. I had them a while, I think some came with a coil gon, I might have purchased some years ago from Ken Ray models.

    • @Edward_Waterfield
      @Edward_Waterfield 10 років тому

      Thanks, again!

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    I have a question, can you paint a drinking straw? I didn't know if they were coated with something that would prevent the paint from sticking. What about if they bend from over handling, does the paint chip off?

    • @beeble2003
      @beeble2003 2 роки тому

      Primer seems to stick to most things, so I guess you can prime them, then paint what you want on top of that. No idea how much they'd chip, though.

  • @standforchrist1
    @standforchrist1 9 років тому

    For the pipe load, what did you use for the Banting?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  9 років тому +1

      Sometimes when you buy scribbed styrene, they include very thin strips. I believe that is what I used. You can buy them separately from evergreen.

  • @jimphillips2439
    @jimphillips2439 Рік тому +1

    Sir what did you use for banding?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  Рік тому +1

      In some of the evergreen sheets, they also supply the very very thin strips, but use imagination if you cant find them. Even thin sliced construction paper could work.

  • @ronaldware899
    @ronaldware899 3 роки тому +1

    What do you use for banding?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  3 роки тому +1

      Great question, I will probably try to show that in a video. Evergreen makes very thin strips that are perfect. I think in the comments someone else had good ideas also.

  • @PrinceRupertBC
    @PrinceRupertBC 10 років тому

    what material did u use for load? where did u get it from?

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  10 років тому

      styrene. you can get it from most hobby stores or online. plastruct or Evergreen are the companies I use.

  • @thevikingwolfpack836
    @thevikingwolfpack836 8 років тому

    I've got tin foil in truck with me I'll try an make one an see how it turns out.an get back to you.

  • @gethighonlife11
    @gethighonlife11 7 років тому +1

    What's up, Mr. CSX!

  • @dewanenerison2875
    @dewanenerison2875 3 роки тому +1

    Do you make coils? And if you do do you have a video

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  3 роки тому +1

      No, store bought. I with I knew how to make them.

    • @wolfgang548
      @wolfgang548 2 роки тому +1

      @@djstrains Evergreen has .005" sheets which can be cut into strips, rolled up and painted.

  • @nxvasix8696
    @nxvasix8696 6 років тому

    Wouldn’t you put the concrete pipes on a flatbed. At least that’s what we do in England.

    • @katherinemorey6517
      @katherinemorey6517 Рік тому

      Americans put them into gondolas and flat cars and bulk head cars. We don't always have them on flat cars. Cory Mears

  • @speedfreak1983
    @speedfreak1983 9 років тому

    Great how to DJ.
    Do you have a material tip for HO loads that is not sheet styrene? (steel sheets)
    ( If I order for more than 28$ the taxes kick inn and i end up paying 2,5 times the itemprice if shipping is cheap) I can only get 3mm plasticard - like stuff where i live so I\ll end up using real steel if I cant figure out something else.
    I know you can get 5mm, 8mm, and 10mm round wood at shops that sells building materials. This can be used as pipes if you drill a hole in each end or used as lumber or concrete poles for bridges aso.
    If you want a really realistic seen on the steel sheets and pipes you can ask the steel factory and reciever how they label the Products.
    Most likely every sheet and pipe is marked in the end with a paint not only the damaged ones: green for brass, blue for steel, red for iron, or simply just one color for no default. It has been some time since i worked With steel Products so none of the collors is probably the right collor. This is simply to help identefy each material and be able to know each item is checked for damage so they do not need to check the same pipes two or Three times. If yo tell the industry Warehouse/Storage you ar modelling their industry and ask for a small tour of the Products they can probably show you what collor is for what.
    For myself I can easily find what is the norm for my industry but I`ll probably still make up some collors from bad memory and not be to exact lol.
    Best regards JC

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  9 років тому

      I don't do much HO, but I'm sure there may be guys on HO model forums who can make some good suggestions. Thanks.

    • @speedfreak1983
      @speedfreak1983 9 років тому +1

      djstrains Hi agan DJ. I found a store in Norway at modellers.com. They are the only dealer in Norway that Stock evergreenproducts but they allso Stock metaltubing and balsa Products. This is a shop that is focused on People that want to build modelboats and RC boats/planes and not only wanna buy readybuildt plastic ones. So my tip for you is to try find this kind of hobbyshop in the US, as the materials you can make loads from is more varied than most other stores.
      I allready have some elements from my rc hobby in the trainhobby, but this can give you real steel loads in scale amongst other options. I allso bought 10m of 0,5mm steel wire for 4 bucks at a cheap-shop intended to use for making catenarywire,but that is a bit of topic, ha ha:)
      Cheers JC

  • @hpept
    @hpept 6 років тому

    it's gôndola, not gondóla...

  • @CornDogRandall
    @CornDogRandall 11 років тому

    Its people like you that the manufactures of pre made loads hate! But who cares? Im all about saving money. I hate the plastic look to my coal loads that come with my coal porters and I don't want to spend an arm and a leg pre made coal loads, so I take the ones that came with cars out smother them with model glue and press them in woodland scenics coal cinders. Let dry then trim to fit with an exacto.

  • @djstrains
    @djstrains  11 років тому

    My wife finds me mildly amusing, my 6 yr old daughter thinks I am funny.

  • @Beux3751
    @Beux3751 2 місяці тому

    Dude you’re getting huge

    • @djstrains
      @djstrains  2 місяці тому

      That video was so many years ago.
      I’m down about 30 pounds since then.
      If you knew anything about me, I quit making videos last December because I got tired of low life people making comments about me personally since they can’t criticize the content. My life is good. Watch this video. It’s one of my last ones but you won’t recognize me: My Life Changed in a YEAR! NEVER TOO OLD TO TRY SOMETHING NEW!
      ua-cam.com/video/fHTbe85yAv4/v-deo.html

    • @Beux3751
      @Beux3751 2 місяці тому

      Glad you’re getting healthier. I’ve lost 30 pounds since last October. Makes a huge difference.

  • @curraheewolf
    @curraheewolf 11 років тому

    I use, and this is just me, I believe they are called hair ties, for women. They look like black rubber bands and are flat. One can find them at Wal-Mart or any beauty store. There are black ones and clear ones. The bands give the impression to be just right for banding. Easy to cut, wrap around a load for banding and easy to glue. A, very small dab of silver paint can represent the locking part of the band. Hope this helps! Happy railroading!!