DIY Pulp loads (40)
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- Опубліковано 22 жов 2019
- Although today most pulp wood is hauled as chips, during the 1940s thru the 1960s railroads hauled a lot of pulp logs in open pulp racks. Unfortunately the model log loads that either come with cars or are sold as accessories leave a lot to be desired. In this video I'll show you how to make your own log loads that look just like the real thing. These do take a bit of work but the final product is well worth the effort.
Here’s an additional tip-don’t go heavy on the glue. Since you are applying multiple lines on every 2-3 layers it will work its way down and may ooze out the sides or bottom of the load making a mess. If anything the last application below the top layer of the logs can be a little heavier since it needs to glue down all the logs up there. Also, I don’t wait between applications for the glue to dry, I just keep adding logs and more glue until I am done with the entire load. Have fun! - Навчання та стиль
I wonder if you could just use something like 3M foam tape on the ends instead of adding more wood pieces. That would add some give because the foam contracts and you can slip it in, but if you add too much wood, then it'll be hard to fit in.
Thanks for sharing! Now, to find something for N scale...
I love making loads for Hoppers with bulkheads as well as coal loads for coal
cars. I do love that chopper as a time-saver. You could cut your time in half by moving to O gauge.
I use the same thing for my wood loads in tenders in old steam locomotives. I usually split them into 4 pieces to look like split wood. I model a fallen flag railroad, the Central of Georgia. I'm presently trying to collect more rolling stock in the CofG livery. Cheers from an ex-Georgian in eastern TN
Super awesome tutorial! I like that you were thorough and actually recommended a specific type of twig to ise
Now that's really awesome, and I will certainly update my lumber operations on my layout! Great job👍
I load pulpwood into my gondolas, but to save weight on the trucks I use two layers of Amazon boxes cut to length on the floor of the gondola then I begin loading my cars. I use Walthers Goo to secure the pulpwood that works very well. Many of my loads are 20+ years old and still intact.
I just bought 2 of these cars ,used at a hobby shop for 5.00 each! Gonna put some Kadee couplers on and get some twigs to start chopping. GREAT Idea. Thanks
Great deal as the Atlas HO ones often sell for $20-30 each on eBay.
I might add putting RTV on the bottom of the load on top of the foil will keep it from slipping around on the car when moving it on the layout.
I just came across your DIY Pulp Load build video. Great video with solid building techniques. I am an O Gauge Interloper who thinks he can modify your dimensions used but still use the gluing techniques shown . I think this will work on O Gauge with out encountering any problems. I will just have to find a skootch bigger diameter limb. Thanks for posting this video.
Should look great in O scale. I did this with some logs for my On30 loads.
Nicely done,,thanks for sharing…
Great tips Larry!
Great video! I will be making several loads!
A very nice tutorial. I have plans to have a paper mill industry on my layout, and while I've purchased pulpwood loads for my bulkhead flatcars, I couldn't find any stacks of pulpwood for sale. Thanks to your video, though, I believe I've found a way to make such stacks.
For stacks I plan to use a block of wood as the core and just apply individual logs to the sides, top, and ends. No need to cut a bunch of logs to go in the middle.
@@TheDCCGuy Ah, OK. That seems easier. When you say apply individual logs to the sides, though, do you mean cutting smaller pieces and then gluing them to the sides?
Yes, and the stacks to be loaded were often only one log deep. On a lot of the small loading facilities the pulp racks were loaded by hand directly from the trucks. In yards special front end loaders were often used with cables that lifted bundles of logs at a time onto the pulp racks. I also have seen hand loading of logs into boxcars, gondolas, and cars that looked like cattle cars with the roofs cut off.
@@TheDCCGuy Ah, OK. For my layout, I envision having a stationary crane for unloading the pulpwood from the flatcars and a conveyor onto which the pulpwood could be loaded by hand. I've also seen a pulpwood cutters shop structure, but I'm not certain where I'd put that in relation to the paper mill itself.
You may want to keep in mind that Pulpwood by definition, can be hardwood or softwood, 28”-4” diameter, and a 5ft sick = between 4’10” and 5’3”.
Jason Asselin makes videos of pulpwood freight on the Escanaba and Lake Superior railroad (ELS). Sometimes logs just jump off the train. Don't be afraid to put logs that jumped along the tracks.😁👍🛤️
Yes, other rolling stock often had sideswipe marks on them from the logs that worked their way loose.
Sounds very good logs good 👍
This was great info..I need a bunch of these and I've passed up many pre form loads due to the fake look.. even with some weathering I don't think except at a distance they would pass well for the real thing. Thank you for sharing this technique. Tom
I love these too but they are mind numbing to make so I only do them when I am watching TV or something where I can do two things at the same time. Just be careful not to overdo it with the glue as it will flow downward and end up flowing out over the edges of the load. Also after things start to really dry out you will get shrinkage and I usually go back and add a vertical layer at one end for a good tight fit. And Atlas makes those GSC pulpwood flats in D&H if I remember correctly.
You could do it quicker by using 1 1/2 inch logs for the majority and the 3/4 inch only where they show, ends and top.
I don't think it would make it less realistic doing that.
I think the problem with doing it that way is the bottom of the car is sloped inwards to create a more stable load and the slope is maintained as you build up the log load. Laying them in flat you would lose that slope towards the center of the car.
@@TheDCCGuy ok I don't have any cars like that.
how do you glue up the top rows so that the glue doesn't show? Sure appreciate your video!! I am making a load now.
I just apply a very thin layer to the top layer and drop them in place. It doesn’t take a lot of glue to hold them.
Fantastic. Thank you very much. The detailed explanation of how and why you are doing things makes it so much clearer. Your enthusiasm shines through. Greetings from Portugal. 🇵🇹
Great video and great idea as always.
Would you know a good material to simulate HO scale coal both for hopper loads and coal bunkers where the coal is visible at the top of the bunker. (I just scratch-built a coal bunker).
The commercial coal particles are too expensive (for my taste).
I was hoping there's a way to DIY coal from some ordinary everyday items. Thanks as always.
Phil
NYC / Jersey Shore Area
Find an old coal yard and look for stray lumps. Lots of oil and gas dealers used to be coal dealers and may have an old trestle on the property with stray lumps around. Also if there are any steam excursions near you check around the area where they load the coal bunker, lots gets spilled around there.
@@TheDCCGuy I will see if I can find a location that you mentioned. Thanks for the ideas.
Have a nice holiday weekend as well.
Phil
a lot of pulp loads that are hauled these days are still whole logs
And yet all I ever see are huge hoppers filled with wood chips. Just where are all these logs you see?
@@TheDCCGuy up here in northern WI and the U.P., whole log pulpwood is hauled to the area paper mills and LP Sagola
I did not check all of the comments, but I'm thinking you can cut the time and tedium by using full length logs until the top layer or two and then use half logs. You shouldn't be able to see the difference.
Yes, but….. most pulpwood cars do not have a flat bottom. Instead they are angled inwards so the logs can be stacked at a slight angle to create a much more stable load. You can use a flat load in a gondola but not on a true pulpwood car.
@@TheDCCGuy my cheap car doesn't have that type of bottom. My bad .
Hi larry I just have a question, I have 2 engine that make a terrible screeching noise when they're running, is the motors seizing up or is there something i can do to stop the noise. Thanks.
Sounds like they need lubricating. Watch videos 228, 229.
Very nice sir! Very simple yet realistic load. Thank you. I always find your videos informative and enjoyable. Now where to find White Pine in the Piedmont area of NC!
I would look for it in urban areas where it is often planted as an ornamental along property lines essentially as a windbreak or tall hedge. Out here the state sells seedlings each spring and I have a number of them in my back yard. You might check with the state forestry office near you to see if they have planted any pine plantations out there. Your area is outside its natural range but they may have done some test plantings. Of course other species may offer similar thin branches too.
@@TheDCCGuy Thank you.
Do you use the glue full strength or is it diluted?
Full strength, but don’t overdo it as it will make it’s way down through the logs, puddle up, and leak out over the sides or create a big blob at each end.
Where do you get the chopper?
The Chopper is made by North West Short Line (NWSL) and is available from a wide range of sellers including Walthers. Ask your local hobby shop or favorite online dealer and of course Amazon and eBay.
@@TheDCCGuy Ok thanks, I will look it up, I'm sad to say my local hobby shop closed due to the owner retiring, he did try to sell the shop first but to no takers.