Update: hardboiledbug recently did a no hit fight against Messmer using these concepts!! You can find that here - ua-cam.com/video/aaYYlxaW-CU/v-deo.html Please let me know if you're enjoying these videos and if there's any topics you want me to cover!! if you want show me anything or come hang - discord.gg/bde4YFG6Ew
Since you were able to use Carian Retaliation against Promised Consort Radahn's Rock Sling projectiles, does the game consider those separate from Starscourge Radahn's Rock Sling projectiles and the Rock Sling sorcery? Going by the spell's description, those are supposed to be physical objects it launches, and IIRC, the sorcery does pure physical damage.
@@nightscout9979 I'm not actually sure tbh. It's likely that Retaliation operates off a whole different flag, separate to the typical "boss or player" sorcery, with individual actions being flagged as Retliate-able. Maybe I'll look into it though
I admire the visuals of a guy with base vigor just casually walking up to dangerous exploding shit only to go "mine!" and defuse what would otherwise one shot like 3 times over.
It's criminal that Carian Retaliation isn't an Ash of War that's available for Staves. The same could be said for a great many of the spell-like Ash of Wars.
You can put it on shields however. I'm surprised people are just now finding out about carian retaliation. It's basically a flat better parry, when it's on a shield you parry normal strikes as well as the ranged ones
I actually found out a few days ago you can use it on friendly cooperator spells. My girlfriend really likes the black blade incantation so naturally she uses it a lot, and I tend to be a carian spell sword so naturally I use the carian retaliation spell or the sheild version. I ended up parrying her blade when she used it, yet it her projectile still hit the boss and had the effect as if nothing happened, but I still got the blades. Something neat to get a little bit more damage out, though not practical.
My mind also led me to the bs laser. But I was equally sure, that it was just too many hitboxes. Like, they really put in a lot of effort to make it a stupidly hard to avoid attack.
I discovered a lof of these properties while doing my parry focused run and I can't wait to use some of this lessons in a caster. Fighting messmer while doing deflects, parries and carian retaliation was extremely fun. Making Midra's microcosm disappear was hilarious and I SWEAR that once I parried an entire barrage of frenzy burst. And one of the most unexpected hightlights was fighting the Draconic Tree Sentinel lol.
This also works with Carian Retaliation's Gold counterpart in the Golden Retaliation AoW from the Erdtree Greatshshield. I love to parry my own Discus of Light.
This is amazing, I always dismissed the spell as a worse version of the shield ash of war, it's very cool that there's an actual use case for it even if it's super niche
This made me wonder if some lf these work with the Tree Sentinel's shield, i know it works with the wraith calling bell but have no idea about these others
It was my favourite skill in the game. I would use it on a shield though (made any shield the same parry timing) I remember being able to parry every single one of Midra's attacks.
oh i so should have covered the difference, or even just explored it myself lol, i found that you can't parry nearly as many of your own spells as you can with the spell version, but i never found out why and it could have just been terrain/timing circumstance
@ooloh yeah the timings were strange, yet I found the skill/ash saved my arse sooo many times. Against 2 handed attacks, AoWs etc. Great video, I really enjoy seeing what can still be done in Elden Ring.
damnnn itd be cool to parry malikeths projectiles but ima just see it as lore, destined death too strong which is dope this is super cool tho i didn’t know this
spell version is useless for me sadly why take up a whole spell slot when you can just put it on a shield even a small one and have you staff in your right hand to cast offensive spells,and with the shield version you can also parry attacks at the very least damage should be WAY higher for spell version then itd be worth it
It’s funny that you say that, because I think the damage is actually pretty substantial, especially so with the right equipment of course (Lusat’s, magic scorpion talisman, etc) For reference though, the Spectral rings sorcery from the DLC only does like 60% of the damage that Carian Retaliation puts out from memory
@@ooloh And AFAIK the spell version is still affected by right hand weapon buffs. Just like how projectile ashes used to work. So if you're using lusat's you might as well make use of the strongest magic weapon buff in the game.
Didn’t know they are this OP, new build incoming!! I swear to God Ooloh just gives me more excuses to keep playing this game. 😭😭 (Btw I noticed that GTA 3 intro music)
The spell wasn't nerfed, only the shield version. It was bugged to do insane damage since it incorrectly scaled damage off the upgrade value of the shield. It was also horrendously broken in PvP where it still did crazy damage but was completely invisible to other players thanks to another bug, and was abused since it could only be dodged by pure guesswork. It would be nice if it did more damage. Nonetheless it was fixed, not nerfed.
@sleep_enjoyer13 reduced damage means nerf either way I think parrying spell skill should reward in atleast a little meaningful damage or maybe it could do insane poise damage obviously the fix for PvP was necessary.
Hmm...if you can cancel any of these with carian retaliation then all of them can be eaten by the moon. Also the moon eats Maliketh's range attacks I remember that one for sure.
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Update: hardboiledbug recently did a no hit fight against Messmer using these concepts!! You can find that here - ua-cam.com/video/aaYYlxaW-CU/v-deo.html
Please let me know if you're enjoying these videos and if there's any topics you want me to cover!!
if you want show me anything or come hang - discord.gg/bde4YFG6Ew
Great format, I feel like a video obout Thops's barrier would be very intresting too
Since you were able to use Carian Retaliation against Promised Consort Radahn's Rock Sling projectiles, does the game consider those separate from Starscourge Radahn's Rock Sling projectiles and the Rock Sling sorcery? Going by the spell's description, those are supposed to be physical objects it launches, and IIRC, the sorcery does pure physical damage.
@@nightscout9979 I'm not actually sure tbh. It's likely that Retaliation operates off a whole different flag, separate to the typical "boss or player" sorcery, with individual actions being flagged as Retliate-able. Maybe I'll look into it though
That was genuinely awesome and gives this spell way way more utility than I previously thought it had 😂
I admire the visuals of a guy with base vigor just casually walking up to dangerous exploding shit only to go "mine!" and defuse what would otherwise one shot like 3 times over.
0:20 nah this is going to far : Elden Ring players have now learned how to parry the shower
we've always known...
💀
It's criminal that Carian Retaliation isn't an Ash of War that's available for Staves. The same could be said for a great many of the spell-like Ash of Wars.
You can put it on shields however. I'm surprised people are just now finding out about carian retaliation. It's basically a flat better parry, when it's on a shield you parry normal strikes as well as the ranged ones
Bro the midra parries wtf 🤣that blew my mind
I actually found out a few days ago you can use it on friendly cooperator spells. My girlfriend really likes the black blade incantation so naturally she uses it a lot, and I tend to be a carian spell sword so naturally I use the carian retaliation spell or the sheild version. I ended up parrying her blade when she used it, yet it her projectile still hit the boss and had the effect as if nothing happened, but I still got the blades. Something neat to get a little bit more damage out, though not practical.
1:02 1:28 Yoinking stationary magic off the ground is funny
1:30 "Yeah I'm sorry, I don't have a solution for this bs either."
My mind also led me to the bs laser. But I was equally sure, that it was just too many hitboxes.
Like, they really put in a lot of effort to make it a stupidly hard to avoid attack.
Zullie, the witch, said this is a part of the boss body, it might be the reason
You can use Thops’ spell against Maliketh’s attacks at least
I discovered a lof of these properties while doing my parry focused run and I can't wait to use some of this lessons in a caster. Fighting messmer while doing deflects, parries and carian retaliation was extremely fun. Making Midra's microcosm disappear was hilarious and I SWEAR that once I parried an entire barrage of frenzy burst. And one of the most unexpected hightlights was fighting the Draconic Tree Sentinel lol.
1:36 this one is absolutely hilarious
"EXPLOSION-"
"no"
This also works with Carian Retaliation's Gold counterpart in the Golden Retaliation AoW from the Erdtree Greatshshield.
I love to parry my own Discus of Light.
This is amazing, I always dismissed the spell as a worse version of the shield ash of war, it's very cool that there's an actual use case for it even if it's super niche
oh my god what i didn’t know that spell could do all that??? im so excited to try it now so i can fight bosses very stylishly
1:27 remind me of final fantasy xiv
lmfao i love how it's like an eraser
I assume you can use Carian Retaliation on your own frisbees like you can for the Erdtree Greatshield?
Is there anything stopping you from using the Aow version?
Good video. Very informative
This made me wonder if some lf these work with the Tree Sentinel's shield, i know it works with the wraith calling bell but have no idea about these others
Oh this is mad stylish
It was my favourite skill in the game. I would use it on a shield though (made any shield the same parry timing) I remember being able to parry every single one of Midra's attacks.
oh i so should have covered the difference, or even just explored it myself lol, i found that you can't parry nearly as many of your own spells as you can with the spell version, but i never found out why and it could have just been terrain/timing circumstance
@ooloh yeah the timings were strange, yet I found the skill/ash saved my arse sooo many times.
Against 2 handed attacks, AoWs etc.
Great video, I really enjoy seeing what can still be done in Elden Ring.
Eating those orbs is like using ZaHando.
Keep it coming! 🎉
damnnn itd be cool to parry malikeths projectiles but ima just see it as lore, destined death too strong which is dope
this is super cool tho i didn’t know this
Im fairly sure that if it's classed as projectile then it can be parried
spell version is useless for me sadly
why take up a whole spell slot when you can just put it on a shield even a small one and have you staff in your right hand to cast offensive spells,and with the shield version you can also parry attacks
at the very least damage should be WAY higher for spell version then itd be worth it
It’s funny that you say that, because I think the damage is actually pretty substantial, especially so with the right equipment of course (Lusat’s, magic scorpion talisman, etc) For reference though, the Spectral rings sorcery from the DLC only does like 60% of the damage that Carian Retaliation puts out from memory
the ash of war version doesn't scale in any way and only does like 100-200 damage
@@ooloh And AFAIK the spell version is still affected by right hand weapon buffs. Just like how projectile ashes used to work. So if you're using lusat's you might as well make use of the strongest magic weapon buff in the game.
I love using it for moghs stall ahh blood shower
Allows me to push mohg against the wall while fighting him to assert dominance
Pause
This type of shit should be core mechanics
please could you tell me the name of the background music in this vid? it’s so nice, especially that second song
First song is GTA III Lofi track by Mikel. The second song is gundam blues by offbeatninja
@ooloh thanks!!
Anyone remember when u could one to two shot anything on the game with carian retaliation? 😁😁
I didn't know this spell exists 😅
1:33 Sadge
3:30 cut the clip CUT THE CLIP
POV you stopped holding sprint forward against maliketh for .01 second
Oh no not the helicopter
Was that the GTA 3 theme you used in the beginning lol?
Didn’t know they are this OP, new build incoming!! I swear to God Ooloh just gives me more excuses to keep playing this game. 😭😭 (Btw I noticed that GTA 3 intro music)
I really really really think this should have done pre nerf damage with the ability to parry your own spells gone or major reduced damage
The spell wasn't nerfed, only the shield version. It was bugged to do insane damage since it incorrectly scaled damage off the upgrade value of the shield. It was also horrendously broken in PvP where it still did crazy damage but was completely invisible to other players thanks to another bug, and was abused since it could only be dodged by pure guesswork.
It would be nice if it did more damage. Nonetheless it was fixed, not nerfed.
@sleep_enjoyer13 reduced damage means nerf either way I think parrying spell skill should reward in atleast a little meaningful damage or maybe it could do insane poise damage obviously the fix for PvP was necessary.
Gta 3 music
🎶
Hmm...if you can cancel any of these with carian retaliation then all of them can be eaten by the moon. Also the moon eats Maliketh's range attacks I remember that one for sure.
Even more reason to dislike Watchful Spirit, huh.
Everytime i learn something new, and its amazing! 💥