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I think you got it right when you boiled it down to "slick" or "flashiness". There's a heavy emphasis on making your opponent look bad through head movement and footwork and then hitting them hard.
Pls do video about James Toney!!! There are no videos about his technique (especially with such quality as your videos). He is a very high-skilled and quite underrated boxer
American boxing is like another time honored American national treasure….jazz….the better it is, the less it’s appreciated. Reflects technical brilliance with highest level of intuition, master level improv. And don’t get it confused ….an American style is equipped to walk an opponent down once it’s time to turn up that pressure.
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@wambokodavid7109 foundational black Americans can't be racist we don't like have that type of power. I think it's racist trying to say that taking credit for the things that you create for your ethnicity is racist
The American style is what really make you appreciate the sport, the ability to land punches to your opponents without getting hit yourself is one of the hardest skill to master 🥊
@@jerrygraves6531 No it isn't. America is a melting pot. Mexican Americans have a style, Puerto Rican Americans have a style, Italian Americans have a style and Black Americans depending upon where they are from will have different styles.. Particularly places like Detroit, Philly and NY.
Bivol is the first draft of the Soviet Step at the highest levels in pro boxing. I can’t wait to see future iterations of the Soviet Step as it evolves for pro boxing. Bivol was the first translation of it
Notice how Michigan boxers like Floyd Mayweather Sr., Floyd Mayweather Jr., and James Toney all utilize the Shoulder Roll, but Philadelphia does it different.
I love that every country, has their own fighting stereotypes/archetypes. If you look at American countries with a strong African population i.e. Cuba, US, Puerto Rico, Panama you’ll notice an emphasis on defense countering and ring generalship. there’s a natural rhythm we all adhere to. Yet you can still find differences from each country. Truly fascinating.
A lot of people think a brawl in the middle of the ring is the most exciting. But this is the sweet science and seeing it executed in this manner by a master is true excitement.
Fantastic video! The biggest difference I’ve noticed between our style of boxing in the U.S. vs other nations always seems to be footwork. Soviet and Cuban boxers stay light on their feet, with an extreme focus on balance. They’re very rhythmic. Mexican boxers tend to stay planted, almost flat footed, while they continue to press forward, never backwards. Almost no rhythm other than their punches. American style seems to be a mixture of both. Mixing their rhythm up, going from inside planted, to outside on their toes, and back to mid range flat footed again.
Years ago I was trained by a black amateur in a Mexican style gym in the US. Our setting was Mexican, but my black trainer would emphasize defensive rhythm. Pivoting with the feet and moving your head. Mexican coach taught it but to a much lesser extent
@@LeadLeftLeon yes, mid range pivoting is very much so American style boxing. However, both Mexican and American boxers tend to slip punches on the inside, by ducking, rather than move back outside, like Soviet and Cuban boxers.
It really boils to down one the thing .... The most singular important thing in boxing ... Rhythm.... And nobody on the Planet has more rhythm than the American Blackman
I never noticed since I think of USA as having a very diverse style due to the vastly different regions and individuality here. Thanks for pointing these out! Particularly the most famous fighters seem to go for more clowning/humiliation tactics compared to other regions. You can see several distinct styles though Ali, an extremely confident outboxer Frazier, an aggressive bob-and-weaver with a dynamite left Tyson, a uniquely aggressive powerpuncher with defensive responsibility Floyd, the master of defense Even the cross-guard has famed American fighters SRL is probably the probably the prime example of an American boxer, as he shows all of the mentioned traits in abundance. It's great to watch the masters at work, I just wish some of them would tone down the cocky stuff and fight!
Jose Valenzuela is an interesting case study. A Mexican-American with an Americanized style. He was born in Mexico and grew up in the US, but his boxing hero is Floyd. Jose used American maneuvers to beat Isaac Cruz
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
Flashiness because American boxing has been ran by African Americans! Which is to say African American culture in general is being very flashy. As the grammy award winning rap artist 50 cent once said “ Look at me flashy, far from lowkey, and you can locate me wherever that dough be!”
Black guys have the athleticism to do things in the ring that you seldom see other groups pull off. Cant think of a nonblack who can match reflexes with the quickest blacks. Manny was praised for his speed but Floyd beat him to the trigger all of the time
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@@jerrygraves6531 America is the melting pot.... With your logic I guess we have to mention how Fight Club/Movies (Your profile pic) is part of White American culture?
It may be flashy, but they’re smooth, relaxed and fast that you look stupid trying to land on them. It’s not flashy for flashy sake. At some times yes, but it’s not the norm.
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I'd label the American boxing style as a "slick boxing style" bcos the ones that stand out and dominate the are slick mostly. Sugaray Robinson, Sugaray Leonard, Roy Jones jr, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Andre Ward, James Toney , Bhop ect . I think its been dominating boxing the longest.
@LeadLeftLeon yes , lateral movement and that head movement coupled with sharp pivots. Look at Teofimo against Lomachencko on how he solved the puzzle of that footwork and angles style.
It's not the American style you mean the Black American style white Americans and mexican-americans and asian-americans none of them fight like black Americans
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
I would say that main focus of American Boxing is style itself. Good American boxers tend to stand out more than most. Whereas Russians or Mexicans would stick to the styles they've known and learned. Americans will often adapt through footwork and be far more aggressive with footwork, practically standing on or over your foot. Your analysis is very much spot on. Especially with movement. I'm an American. And a former boxer. As an American, my goal is to change my opponents mind.
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@@jerrygraves6531and that’s racist to not consider Black boxers as Americans (Western). They’re every bit as American as anyone else in the country. Very bigoted comment
@maseratimitch2024 they are foundational black Americans, America's too big with too many ethnicities to just say go by that nationality you have to go by ethnicity with America
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@guts3154 exactly and so the ethnicity should be given the credit not the nationality which is foundational black Americans not "American" because America has many ethnicities and none of us fight the same. Going by nationality is for more homogeneous Nations not America
@@guts3154 exactly their ethnicity is a foundational black american, not just simply American there's too many ethnicities here to make it sound like we all fight the same as appropriation
@@guts3154All american black fighters don't fight the same.... Tank doesn't fight like Stevenson.... We have ko artist.... Boxer punches.... Defense of wizards...
Nailed it. I love comparing the styles along different dimensions, for example, Morale Breaking; every style lends itself to breaking it's opponents morale in a completely different way: - American style boxing is meant to break your opponent's morale through power, precision, timing, and taunts. This makes your opponent feel outclassed, doubt themselves and quit. - Euro/Soviet style boxing is meant to break your opponent's moral through non-stop consistency. This makes your opponent feel like they're fighting a machine and they quit. - Mexican style boxing is meant to break your opponent's moral through sheer damage, insane courage and pressure. This makes your opponent feel like prey, like they're being stalked, and they quit. Each style is probably mentally harder for different fighters to cope with, depending on their own personality and mindset.
Being flashy at its best is to force the opponent to fight at a different rhythm than what they're usually trained for - the moment the opponent loses focus, their movement and breathing disrupted from the antics being pulled. At its worst, the flashy person becomes a clown against someone who's hyper focused with their fundamentals. Either way, being an entertaining pro is still a victory in itself
The modern version, in my opinion, relies too much on athletic superiority. This is why when they are at an athletic disadvantage, they not only lose but get dominated. When they have advantages, they can do amazing things.
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
When i think american style i think James Toney and Floyd Mayweather and the flash of Roy Jones jr. and Pernell Whittaker, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvelous Hagler, Tommy Hearns. Theres so many I don't want to leave anyone out.
Great analysis! I would like to see if the Mexican American boxing style is significantly different from the traditional Mexican style. Feels like Mexican Americans are heavily influenced in both but I’m not sure if it is a clear defined hybrid
There might be a Filipino style in the future, but I think its more of a motivation/philosophy rather than a style. Young Filipino boxers are inspired by Manny Pacquiao, but there is a chance they will try and copy his style. Speed ia definitely their main key if Filipino style exists.
@@omicron5128 speed isn't a style. Everybody don't need a style everybody acts like will Filipinos have done so much in boxing when they've just had Manny Pacquiao
I have a few questions: 1.) After watching your (very interesting) video clip, it seems to me that Joe Frazier and George Foreman didn't use the American style, did they? 2.) What do you think is the reason that there is no American heavyweight champ at the moment? 3.) Roy Jones Jr. appears in your video and he was of course flashy, but he uses a style that can't be replicated. In fact, many coaches would even advise against trying to copy Jones Jr. style. He was just so fast and so athletic that the normal rules of boxing didn't apply to him for a long time. Or what do you think about that?
2. Talent pool depletion. Big young athletes have more exposure to football and MMA. Plus there are more highschool football teams and MMA gyms than pure boxing gyms.
Its interesting that even the style of boxing is a political complextion of a countries identity. The flash and brash style is exactly what characterizes America as a whole and soviet system is heavily focused on the science. While else mexicans embrace the hard preassure style as expressed in their culture
I think it lends to their physical traits as well. Russians are naturally taller and make great outboxers Mexicans are shorter and wouldn't be as effective at range Americans fall in the middle and their style reflects it!
@skillrboxing I would argue the hallmark of American boxing is power. in the way it’s used kinda makes it fall under flashiness- lots of headhunting, and emphasis on the the biggest lands. This doesn’t really fit the Philly style though so I’d get why you wouldn’t include it fully. The names are insane. Not all around talent but pure power: Tyson, wilder, foreman, hearns, j Jackson, McClellan, Marciano, tank, shavers, Louis, Dempsey…it’s goes on and on…. having a friendly rivalry w Mexico ( toughest and very powerful punchers) might create some some growth in power and chin for both nations boxers
The real question is what happened to American boxers? We used to rule International competition and now it's hard to find a serious boxing gym in any City
Well, this conversation should be a little bit more specific, because the majority of the examples that you can use are black American boxers. Muhammad Ali, Pernell Whitaker, boots, James Toney, Andre Ward, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Tevin Farmer, are all slick black boxers. Now it’s certain boxers that are more slick than others. You also have black boxers that aren’t necessarily slick. That’s what I think of when you speak of the American boxer. Shane Mosley isnt really slick. Neither was Devon Alexander, or Errol Spence. Those two more so are stiff. It has a lot to do with our rhythm. The stylishness of it boils down to our physical charisma.
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
I don't buy the flashiness statement. Smokin' Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield were not flashy. Neither were Rocky Marciano or Joe Lewis.
Nice to see you break down the American boxing style. But I’ll be sticking to the Soviet boxing style, not just for the long-range but for the disciplinary aspect. 🇺🇸🇷🇺☭
For me, bivol is great! Bivol x bbv really showed what the Russian style can do during the first few rounds! It's a strong basis, but you may benefit from incorporating other techniques as well!
Boxing didn't originate in England. It started in Ethiopia and Egypt then it became a olympic sport in greece. It died out after the fall of rome then resurfaced in England as prize fighting. England created the iteration we use today but the sport of boxing was created way before that...
@skillrboxing i agree, but saying it originated in England and not bringing light to where the style of fighting actually came from can be misleading. Aside from that great video.
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Amazing video. Can you sometime try to break down evander holyfields or mike tysons style if you havent already?
I think you got it right when you boiled it down to "slick" or "flashiness". There's a heavy emphasis on making your opponent look bad through head movement and footwork and then hitting them hard.
💯Agree, slickness is the word that comes to mind when I think of american boxers, as opposed to other schools of boxing
Specifically the Slique Black American Style. Long gone are the Slique white guys Willie Pep Benny Leonard Canzoneri
@@LeadLeftLeonWell Caleb Plant is pretty slick in fairness to him.
Pls do video about James Toney!!! There are no videos about his technique (especially with such quality as your videos). He is a very high-skilled and quite underrated boxer
The modern martial artist made one about him. It’s very informative
Wilson Kayden has an ultra in depth analysis of James Toney’s style, easily the best analysis video I’ve seen of him
One of the most talented boxers💯 Would be great to do a breakdown on him, but we'll have to see
@@skillrboxing Thank you! I will look forward for your analysis) Love your vids!
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American boxing is like another time honored American national treasure….jazz….the better it is, the less it’s appreciated. Reflects technical brilliance with highest level of intuition, master level improv. And don’t get it confused ….an American style is equipped to walk an opponent down once it’s time to turn up that pressure.
You mean black American
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
Very well said.
Here we go with the FBA racisms🙄🙄
@wambokodavid7109 foundational black Americans can't be racist we don't like have that type of power. I think it's racist trying to say that taking credit for the things that you create for your ethnicity is racist
The American style is what really make you appreciate the sport, the ability to land punches to your opponents without getting hit yourself is one of the hardest skill to master 🥊
@@synvaVal is the Black American style not the American style
@@jerrygraves6531
No it isn't. America is a melting pot. Mexican Americans have a style, Puerto Rican Americans have a style, Italian Americans have a style and Black Americans depending upon where they are from will have different styles.. Particularly places like Detroit, Philly and NY.
Only problem with slick boxing style is they incorporate lots of clinching which is illegal
@RyshelHolguin-jl1dl it's black American style boxing
@@RyshelHolguin-jl1dl its not, clinch work is one of the most important parts of boxing
Japanese style boxing
If Mexicans are natural brawlers, the Nippon are structured sluggers. Japan is an orderly honor society
Get this comment more likes so he can make the video
Love this
I’d love to see it.
Definitely would love to see a breakdown of this.
Bivol is the first draft of the Soviet Step at the highest levels in pro boxing. I can’t wait to see future iterations of the Soviet Step as it evolves for pro boxing. Bivol was the first translation of it
Kovalev showed the world the magnificence of the Soviet step! Didn't he?
Usyk is another. It's not going to evolve much, the style has been around since the 90s
I’d love to see a series contrasting the various American cities’ styles - Philly, Detroit, NY, etc.
Notice how Michigan boxers like Floyd Mayweather Sr., Floyd Mayweather Jr., and James Toney all utilize the Shoulder Roll, but Philadelphia does it different.
It's black American
I love that every country, has their own fighting stereotypes/archetypes. If you look at
American countries with a strong African population i.e. Cuba, US, Puerto Rico, Panama you’ll notice an emphasis on defense countering and ring generalship. there’s a natural rhythm we all adhere to. Yet you can still find differences from each country.
Truly fascinating.
Yeah we are Latinos from African, European and indigenous descent. What's next FBA, you're going to start saying white Latinos and black Latinos?
A lot of people think a brawl in the middle of the ring is the most exciting. But this is the sweet science and seeing it executed in this manner by a master is true excitement.
Fantastic video! The biggest difference I’ve noticed between our style of boxing in the U.S. vs other nations always seems to be footwork. Soviet and Cuban boxers stay light on their feet, with an extreme focus on balance. They’re very rhythmic. Mexican boxers tend to stay planted, almost flat footed, while they continue to press forward, never backwards. Almost no rhythm other than their punches.
American style seems to be a mixture of both. Mixing their rhythm up, going from inside planted, to outside on their toes, and back to mid range flat footed again.
Interesting assesment💯
@ you essentially said the same thing at one point haha. I commented a little early. Still, great video!
Years ago I was trained by a black amateur in a Mexican style gym in the US. Our setting was Mexican, but my black trainer would emphasize defensive rhythm. Pivoting with the feet and moving your head. Mexican coach taught it but to a much lesser extent
@@LeadLeftLeon yes, mid range pivoting is very much so American style boxing.
However, both Mexican and American boxers tend to slip punches on the inside, by ducking, rather than move back outside, like Soviet and Cuban boxers.
It really boils to down one the thing .... The most singular important thing in boxing ... Rhythm.... And nobody on the Planet has more rhythm than the American Blackman
This is exactly the style i wanna develope into
James Tony and Floyd made the Philly shell a classic.
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id say ken norton, followed by archie moore
Norton and Moore used more of a cross arm defense like Frazier tho, not the Philly Shell/Detroit Rock
@@artstudent1237 Crossguard is part of the philly shell.
I guess none of you know who George Benton was..
I never noticed since I think of USA as having a very diverse style due to the vastly different regions and individuality here.
Thanks for pointing these out!
Particularly the most famous fighters seem to go for more clowning/humiliation tactics compared to other regions.
You can see several distinct styles though
Ali, an extremely confident outboxer
Frazier, an aggressive bob-and-weaver with a dynamite left
Tyson, a uniquely aggressive powerpuncher with defensive responsibility
Floyd, the master of defense
Even the cross-guard has famed American fighters
SRL is probably the probably the prime example of an American boxer, as he shows all of the mentioned traits in abundance.
It's great to watch the masters at work, I just wish some of them would tone down the cocky stuff and fight!
I agree with the sharp punching, flash, and rolling. Really everything. U did a good job.
Jose Valenzuela is an interesting case study. A Mexican-American with an Americanized style. He was born in Mexico and grew up in the US, but his boxing hero is Floyd. Jose used American maneuvers to beat Isaac Cruz
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
Mexican-Americans tend to have a mix of Mexican and American styles. For example, De La Hoya
His boxing idol isn’t Floyd 😂😂😂😂
@@jerrygraves6531Caleb plant does . . .
@@jerrygraves6531caleb plant fights like this
Flashiness because American boxing has been ran by African Americans! Which is to say African American culture in general is being very flashy. As the grammy award winning rap artist 50 cent once said “ Look at me flashy, far from lowkey, and you can locate me wherever that dough be!”
Black guys have the athleticism to do things in the ring that you seldom see other groups pull off. Cant think of a nonblack who can match reflexes with the quickest blacks. Manny was praised for his speed but Floyd beat him to the trigger all of the time
It's not the American style is the Black American style
@ FACTS
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@@jerrygraves6531 America is the melting pot.... With your logic I guess we have to mention how Fight Club/Movies (Your profile pic) is part of White American culture?
It may be flashy, but they’re smooth, relaxed and fast that you look stupid trying to land on them. It’s not flashy for flashy sake. At some times yes, but it’s not the norm.
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Btw you've summarized perfectly the general skills of american boxing. Obviously there could be more technical things but then you'd have to go deep into each specific style (Detroit/Michigan, Philly, NY, LA, etc.etc.)
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I've never seen someone break down the differences in styles of boxing like this before. This was really a joy to watch, awesome video man.
I'd label the American boxing style as a "slick boxing style" bcos the ones that stand out and dominate the are slick mostly. Sugaray Robinson, Sugaray Leonard, Roy Jones jr, Floyd Mayweather Jr, Andre Ward, James Toney , Bhop ect . I think its been dominating boxing the longest.
Slique head movement in the form of rolls is the defining characteristic of American style
@LeadLeftLeon yes , lateral movement and that head movement coupled with sharp pivots. Look at Teofimo against Lomachencko on how he solved the puzzle of that footwork and angles style.
It's not the American style you mean the Black American style white Americans and mexican-americans and asian-americans none of them fight like black Americans
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@@jerrygraves6531 I couldn't have said it any better
5:01 is coach Anthony he's an absolute genius!!! And divka she's a superstar 🙏
Thanks for the good information. I appreciate you, Skillr Boxing.
I would say that main focus of American Boxing is style itself.
Good American boxers tend to stand out more than most. Whereas Russians or Mexicans would stick to the styles they've known and learned. Americans will often adapt through footwork and be far more aggressive with footwork, practically standing on or over your foot. Your analysis is very much spot on. Especially with movement. I'm an American. And a former boxer. As an American, my goal is to change my opponents mind.
That Andre Ward sequence was beautiful
Best channel on YT! Love to see some of those similarities among my favorite USA boxers
The greatest fighters that the sport has ever produced-much respect to the BLACK AMERICAN fighters for producing the most graceful style of boxing!
for context, 4:20 clip with mayweather was right after ortiz intentionally headbutt him
True 😊
The cuban boxing style always fascinated me would love a breakdown on it
It’s evolving. Morrell isn’t a points fighter and prefers to Uck the opponent up!
Roy mixed with Ali is American boxing Floyd perfected it
Pls do a video on Pernell Whitaker
Totally agree, there are very few breakdowns of his technique.
Superb commentary!
Awesome, thanks! It's easy to focus on the 'niche' styles as if they're some kind of magic. But this is where it's at.
bro I was just watching yo vids last night I was waiting for this one!
There you go💪
Would love to see a comparison between amateur and pro style of boxing!
American boxing - Waist movement heavily relied on paired with head movement
I call it torso movement
Black American boxing white guys don't fight like that
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@@jerrygraves6531and that’s racist to not consider Black boxers as Americans (Western). They’re every bit as American as anyone else in the country. Very bigoted comment
@maseratimitch2024 they are foundational black Americans, America's too big with too many ethnicities to just say go by that nationality you have to go by ethnicity with America
Please share isaac cruz analysis video🙏❤
yes that would be good
Yes
proud to be an American boxer
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@ except all of those black boxers are american not all black boxers fight the same only american ones
@guts3154 exactly and so the ethnicity should be given the credit not the nationality which is foundational black Americans not "American" because America has many ethnicities and none of us fight the same. Going by nationality is for more homogeneous Nations not America
@@guts3154 exactly their ethnicity is a foundational black american, not just simply American there's too many ethnicities here to make it sound like we all fight the same as appropriation
@@guts3154All american black fighters don't fight the same.... Tank doesn't fight like Stevenson.... We have ko artist.... Boxer punches.... Defense of wizards...
I believe Americans emphasis turning over shots. Body posturing, framing, & body jabs more than any other country as well
What’s next for this series seems like yall covered all the styles but could be more like Philippines or Japan
I definitely didn’t smile like the grinch when bro said flashiness, nope not at all 😂
Nailed it. I love comparing the styles along different dimensions, for example, Morale Breaking; every style lends itself to breaking it's opponents morale in a completely different way:
- American style boxing is meant to break your opponent's morale through power, precision, timing, and taunts. This makes your opponent feel outclassed, doubt themselves and quit.
- Euro/Soviet style boxing is meant to break your opponent's moral through non-stop consistency. This makes your opponent feel like they're fighting a machine and they quit.
- Mexican style boxing is meant to break your opponent's moral through sheer damage, insane courage and pressure. This makes your opponent feel like prey, like they're being stalked, and they quit.
Each style is probably mentally harder for different fighters to cope with, depending on their own personality and mindset.
Beautiful breakdown
Great analysis!
A deep breakdown on American Style boxing is very surprising to see, but allow Skillr to do the job 💯
You mean the Black American style
Being flashy at its best is to force the opponent to fight at a different rhythm than what they're usually trained for - the moment the opponent loses focus, their movement and breathing disrupted from the antics being pulled.
At its worst, the flashy person becomes a clown against someone who's hyper focused with their fundamentals.
Either way, being an entertaining pro is still a victory in itself
I think a vidro about the lanky akward style of monzon would be great
The modern version, in my opinion, relies too much on athletic superiority. This is why when they are at an athletic disadvantage, they not only lose but get dominated. When they have advantages, they can do amazing things.
when the hell american black fighters dominated.... It's more a Black American champions in the world right now.Than any other race in the world
Tysvm for your great work champ! Keer it up!
This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
@jerrygraves6531 said no one ever but you. What happened buddy? Daddy went to get milk and didnt come back? 😂
Please do a video on Israel Madrimov.
When i think american style i think James Toney and Floyd Mayweather and the flash of Roy Jones jr. and Pernell Whittaker, Muhammad Ali, Sugar Ray Leonard, Marvelous Hagler, Tommy Hearns. Theres so many I don't want to leave anyone out.
What about Naoya’s Japanese Style as the next video??
Great analysis! I would like to see if the Mexican American boxing style is significantly different from the traditional Mexican style. Feels like Mexican Americans are heavily influenced in both but I’m not sure if it is a clear defined hybrid
Can u analyze Naoya Inoue next? He's a p4p great and would like to see him anaylzed
Team Uzbekistan won 5 Gold medals at Olympic Games 2024 at Paris. Please review their Boxing style.
Hi skillr love the breakdowns. Can you break down Ricky Hatton next thanks?
This video doesnt talk about all the clinching ( illegal by the way) needed by a slick boxer once hes out of his comfort zone or misses etc
How about Filipiino style of boxing?
Every Filipino fighter fights different 😭
@@JoseMartinez-te1ir every ethnicity fights different black Americans are what they are calling the American style
There might be a Filipino style in the future, but I think its more of a motivation/philosophy rather than a style. Young Filipino boxers are inspired by Manny Pacquiao, but there is a chance they will try and copy his style.
Speed ia definitely their main key if Filipino style exists.
@@omicron5128 speed isn't a style. Everybody don't need a style everybody acts like will Filipinos have done so much in boxing when they've just had Manny Pacquiao
@@jerrygraves6531 I said the main key, not the main style. Learn to read
Please a video about japenese boxing style
Please will be some video about amateur boxing? Something like top tactics in amateur boxing etc.?
There’s a video out saying the Philly shell style was born in Detroit known as the Detroit Rock
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I have a few questions:
1.) After watching your (very interesting) video clip, it seems to me that Joe Frazier and George Foreman didn't use the American style, did they?
2.) What do you think is the reason that there is no American heavyweight champ at the moment?
3.) Roy Jones Jr. appears in your video and he was of course flashy, but he uses a style that can't be replicated. In fact, many coaches would even advise against trying to copy Jones Jr. style. He was just so fast and so athletic that the normal rules of boxing didn't apply to him for a long time. Or what do you think about that?
2. Talent pool depletion. Big young athletes have more exposure to football and MMA. Plus there are more highschool football teams and MMA gyms than pure boxing gyms.
Its interesting that even the style of boxing is a political complextion of a countries identity. The flash and brash style is exactly what characterizes America as a whole and soviet system is heavily focused on the science. While else mexicans embrace the hard preassure style as expressed in their culture
It's not the American style. Black white Americans don't fight like that is the Black American style
I think it lends to their physical traits as well.
Russians are naturally taller and make great outboxers
Mexicans are shorter and wouldn't be as effective at range
Americans fall in the middle and their style reflects it!
Good point @@JustinHampton-l5j
plss make a video about FILIPINO BOXING STYLE breakdown
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Philippine style boxing next please
In my opinion American boxing simply boils down to, keep calm and adapt.
@skillrboxing I would argue the hallmark of American boxing is power. in the way it’s used kinda makes it fall under flashiness- lots of headhunting, and emphasis on the the biggest lands. This doesn’t really fit the Philly style though so I’d get why you wouldn’t include it fully. The names are insane. Not all around talent but pure power: Tyson, wilder, foreman, hearns, j Jackson, McClellan, Marciano, tank, shavers, Louis, Dempsey…it’s goes on and on…. having a friendly rivalry w Mexico ( toughest and very powerful punchers) might create some some growth in power and chin for both nations boxers
I’d love to see a Roy jones brake down
Could you do a video on Oscar de la hoya
Could you do Puerto Rican style, pls?
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The real question is what happened to American boxers? We used to rule International competition and now it's hard to find a serious boxing gym in any City
Can you do raymond ford?
Where’s Emmanuel Augustus at?
They showed him in this exact video.
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@@Factsoverfeels8 came to my comment to just hate?
@@Factsoverfeels8you see the American style being a style carried by black Americans and started to hate
I hope we get Japanese style next!
Can you do a Rocky Marciano suzie q breakdown please 🙏
Do puerto rico next 🇵🇷
Well, this conversation should be a little bit more specific, because the majority of the examples that you can use are black American boxers. Muhammad Ali, Pernell Whitaker, boots, James Toney, Andre Ward, Bernard Hopkins, Floyd Mayweather, Tevin Farmer, are all slick black boxers. Now it’s certain boxers that are more slick than others. You also have black boxers that aren’t necessarily slick. That’s what I think of when you speak of the American boxer. Shane Mosley isnt really slick. Neither was Devon Alexander, or Errol Spence. Those two more so are stiff. It has a lot to do with our rhythm. The stylishness of it boils down to our physical charisma.
I classify the American style of boxing by if they have a US passport or a green card.
Roy jones jr breakdown please 😢
Beating up on underdogs only is the new American style
BLACK American boxing
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This is cultural appropriation to call it the western-style when we all know it's only foundational black Americans who fight like that whites don't fight like black Americans so it's the Black American style of boxing not the western style
Make 'em miss make 'em pay.
I don't buy the flashiness statement. Smokin' Joe Frazier, George Foreman, Mike Tyson, Evander Holyfield were not flashy. Neither were Rocky Marciano or Joe Lewis.
I think the flashy aspect is because that is how you make money. No showmanship = no show lol
Nice to see you break down the American boxing style. But I’ll be sticking to the Soviet boxing style, not just for the long-range but for the disciplinary aspect. 🇺🇸🇷🇺☭
You going to have tough nights against american black fighters
For me, bivol is great!
Bivol x bbv really showed what the Russian style can do during the first few rounds!
It's a strong basis, but you may benefit from incorporating other techniques as well!
tevin farmer breakdown?
But I will categorize the style as ultimate safety ultimate punishment. And ring Control .
Do the Asian style of boxing next
In USA we wouldn't call but showmanship we just say have fun but yeah this vid is accurate
American is freestyle for FREEDDOOOOOM
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Where is the naoya Inoue video?
Most likely at beginning of January
Awe man we’re talking about American fighters & you ain’t have Terrence Crawford in any highlights???
He is my favourite as well ❤
Boxing didn't originate in England. It started in Ethiopia and Egypt then it became a olympic sport in greece. It died out after the fall of rome then resurfaced in England as prize fighting. England created the iteration we use today but the sport of boxing was created way before that...
The sport of boxing as we know it today, with its rules. Of course there was bare knuckle/fist fighting way back.
@skillrboxing i agree, but saying it originated in England and not bringing light to where the style of fighting actually came from can be misleading. Aside from that great video.