Why Are Hundreds Of Restaurants BANNING Mushrooms From Their Menu?!?

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  • @organicjoe6568
    @organicjoe6568 5 місяців тому +9

    Funny how the National Trust supposedly cares about the environment and whatnot but still promotes animal products on their page. Utter hypocrites.

    • @telotawa
      @telotawa 5 місяців тому +1

      animals are a very useful part of sustainable agriculture practices. though i doubt the national trust promotes any of those...
      anyway i'd rather have meat from a permaculture farm than soy from a 1000 acre monoculture field sprayed with glyphosate...

  • @tstatus1206
    @tstatus1206 5 місяців тому +9

    couldnt they just use coir, and shouldnt the ban the sale of peet moss not the use of mushrooms, sounds like theyre really scared over there in the uk

    • @clickbaitpro
      @clickbaitpro 5 місяців тому +1

      It baffles my mind how concerned they're just for mushroom cultivation while completely ignoring livestock's. It's like don't take shrooms, take meth instead lol

    • @PocketFoodArt
      @PocketFoodArt 5 місяців тому

      I was wondering, we really need to stop using peat moss.

  • @kangthao5121
    @kangthao5121 5 місяців тому +22

    In layman's terms, someone hates mushrooms.

  • @hubertnnn
    @hubertnnn 5 місяців тому +3

    This looks like another "solve ecological problem causing an even bigger one".
    I don't understand why all those "eco" people are so narrow minded.

  • @MissBlackMetal
    @MissBlackMetal 5 місяців тому +1

    I've long presumed that the natural, whole version of a plant medicine would be more gentle, well-rounded, and beneficial to us than isolated compounds -- no matter what the plant is. Every aspect of our existence seems to thrive on "balance" and "moderation" in all we do. Whole plants are a balanced form of medicine while isolated compounds are extremes.
    It does suck that it's hard to get consistency with it for the sake of science, though.

  • @marionecula9771
    @marionecula9771 5 місяців тому +8

    So this heritage org. Is to promote and preserve the heritage of the UK. At the same time, part of the promoting the old way of life is using peat for heating and cooking. Thus freeing the carbon into the atmosphere by burning the dried peat moss. Or how you said, the demand for peat moss for mushroom industry will move to Ireland or somewhere else, so that will nullify the ban of peat moss for use in mushroom producers from Uk. This decision makes no sense

    • @oxon8871
      @oxon8871 5 місяців тому

      Well... no. English Heritage has preserved several sites from the industrial revolution; It doesn't mean that they have endorsed the continued use of coal. Nor does the attempt to foster debate on the role of peat and peat bogs endorse the burning of peat on the grounds that it, like coal, is traditional.

    • @thebrodybiss1466
      @thebrodybiss1466 5 місяців тому

      I heard that a similar ban is happening in Scotland and is going to mess with the scotch whisky production, another long standing tradition.

    • @f.d.6667
      @f.d.6667 5 місяців тому +2

      Totally agree! As I wrote elsewhere, naturally fermented horse poop / straw mix makes for the best mushroom substrate one can think of. With 370,000 households in the UK owning at least one horse and the annual poop production of a 1000 lb horse estimated at around 9-10 tons, there simply is no reason to use peat for mushroom production.

  • @vonBelfry
    @vonBelfry 5 місяців тому +10

    Right, so they banned mushrooms before they banned beef. Makes PERFECT sense.
    Someone's probably just buying into weird conspiracy theories to make their irrational hatred of mushrooms seem justified.

    • @xxdragonrenderxx
      @xxdragonrenderxx 5 місяців тому +3

      Banning beef also makes no sense

    • @MissBlackMetal
      @MissBlackMetal 5 місяців тому

      Did you watch the video? The reasoning for the ban was to get it in the news, to get media coverage and exposure, to bring attention to the issue of using peat moss for mushroom cultivation. If the charity had just stopped buying from mushroom suppliers who use peat moss in their cultivation, hardly anyone new would know about this, and certainly nobody outside the UK. But ban mushrooms from their restaurants? Of course *everyone* is going to be curious.
      It's basically the same as what activists are doing when they throw paint on people wearing fur, or glue themselves to historic paintings (though these last two examples are truly awful ways to bring attention to issues and I wish they'd stop doing that shit). It's the shock value that gets media coverage, and media coverage is what brings national or worldwide attention to a cause.

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 5 місяців тому +11

    One thing about whole extract is companies like Compass Pathways can't patent the molecule, unlike all the synthetic ones they already have locked up for themselves.

  • @lovesiriusblack
    @lovesiriusblack 5 місяців тому +13

    "The production, transport and processing of oil and gas resulted in 5.1 billion tonnes (Gt) CO2-eq in 2022.3 May 2023" (from IEA, an already biased source). But we should care about the 31 million tonnes since 1990 exactly why? The restaurants are far down in the market chain and banning mushrooms from restaurant are not actually making any difference except decreased demand for the product... why hurt consumers instead of regulating even if it means increase in pricing?
    Why is the world like this?

    • @lovesiriusblack
      @lovesiriusblack 5 місяців тому

      8:24 perfect examples of potential regulations...

    • @dcfromthev
      @dcfromthev 5 місяців тому

      Humans. The only “problem” with this planet is humans.

    • @monnoo8221
      @monnoo8221 5 місяців тому +2

      ignorance & stupidity. (and this is a deep answer, but I keep it short)

    • @09patrick22barnes95
      @09patrick22barnes95 5 місяців тому

      Politics has hijacked many fields of science and are now pushing absolute bullshit. The only carbon that matters is carbon from fossil fuels, any carbon released from living things breaking down other living or recently living things is purely carbon neutral and part of the natural carbon cycle.
      There is even evidence that releasing fossil fuel carbon is actually good for the environment (our current levels are very low compared to most of earth's history and this is putting a lot of stress on plants, with more CO2, plants can better tolerate arid conditions thus reversing desertification, and increasing food production).
      But any scientist that publishes or even speaks about it risks losing their job due to an extreme left wing ideological bias in universities.
      Same reason why we see a resurgence of Marxism in the western world, and we've got medical professionals prescribing puberty blockers/cross sex hormones/genital surgery to children that only serve to make the medical industry richer while permanently destroying the mental and physical health of any child they manage to confuse into agreement regardless if they are really trans, or gay, or straight equally.
      Their hasn't been a dysfunctional ideological bias in science this bad since Nazi pseudoscience, Soviet pseudoscience, and 19th century white supremacist pseudoscience where Jews, anyone that owned anything even a single chicken, and POC were on the chopping block respectively. With the current paradigm of woke pseudoscience, it's all white people, cis people both gay and straight, and religious people that are on the firing line.
      My bet is that wokism kills a minimum of half a billion people before the century is out if not billions
      NEVER "trust science", always verify it.

  • @paulsomething8
    @paulsomething8 5 місяців тому +2

    Does anyone else think this guy is unbelievably beautiful?

  • @captainmidnite93
    @captainmidnite93 5 місяців тому +2

    So when I dumped all my casing soil ie. peat moss, oyster shell bits, into the garden for over a decade, it turned into, ,,..a well. it turned into peat moss and oyster shell bits - O My. I'm a bad and confused man to boot.

  • @KOKO-uu7yd
    @KOKO-uu7yd 5 місяців тому +1

    Note: its NOT just about the environmental impact in a carbon sense. It's about the habitat loss that, like losing wetlands, is absolutely NOT easily healed or replaceable.
    Honestly, anything that brings the challenges of our large scale harvesting of peat is a net good.
    Is this the area of largest impact to start? Uuuhhhh.... no. I kinda doubt it, anyway 😅
    But still, it's actually difficult to find peat FREE options for gardening etc, and I'm glad it's getting attention.

  • @lcarthel
    @lcarthel 5 місяців тому +1

    Make a video on potential differences between mycelium and whole fruit, like Paul Stamets company uses only mycelium. Can’t be as good, right? He says it’s better for immunity than fruiting bodies. Hmm.. ?

  • @TheVaughan69
    @TheVaughan69 5 місяців тому +2

    On the alternatives for peat - "insufficient supply in the UK"... "Tea and Coffee Waste".
    Quite frankly as a UK native I am insulted. Do you know how much fucking tea we drink?

    • @lovesiriusblack
      @lovesiriusblack 5 місяців тому

      Wrote "Btw, is must be the definition of irony that the UK doesn't have a sufficient supply of tea waste 6:12 Perhaps a reform in how tea waste is handled is in need?" as a comment and I thank you for substantiating this!

  • @CoffeeBeanWitch
    @CoffeeBeanWitch 5 місяців тому +1

    I've got a brand new tin foil hat on for this but as a logical conspiracy theorist, and a Brit who has only really recently learnt the amazing power of mushrooms and other relatives to it, I can't ignore the feeling that this is yet another narrative of not only over farming of land to meet consumer demands but also could it be a fact that giving the power of choice to people to pick a healthy natural choice would make a dent in profit for big over processed food companies if we pick the healthy choice instead of the high fat, sugar, salt and artifical coloured foods that over time can impact on our health and longevity? Yes we need to be responsible when taking from the land we replace to replenish but profit waits for no one. 🤔 🍄

  • @junkettarp8942
    @junkettarp8942 5 місяців тому +3

    Your so young, knowledgeable and consciousness Tony......Good on you.

  • @mandyinjesus
    @mandyinjesus 5 місяців тому +3

    Oh, ffs....THEY want to control food....eventually THEY will try to control all of the food...keep growing mushrooms folks.😅

    • @JoshuaRed-v4f
      @JoshuaRed-v4f 5 місяців тому

      Your dogwhistle is not subtle. You're announcing your disgusting belief.

    • @telotawa
      @telotawa 5 місяців тому

      who is they

    • @JoshuaRed-v4f
      @JoshuaRed-v4f 5 місяців тому

      You know you have strong opinions for a feckless coward

  • @blu12gaming44
    @blu12gaming44 5 місяців тому +1

    It sounds a lot like a bunch of old rich guys with more land and money than wits deciding to ban something because they don't fully understand it while believing they 'know better' due to having a stake in an old and prestigious nature-focused institution.

  • @doraemon402
    @doraemon402 4 місяці тому +1

    I have a very hard time believing coco coir or vermiculite have a "prohibitive cost".

  • @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425
    @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425 5 місяців тому +3

    I live in D.C., and have tried the artificial one. It's very anxiety inducing. It has led me to understood that the quality of mushrooms has to do with the expansiveness of its entourage effect. Without the entourage effect, the negative aspects are much more pronounced. It really says something that the study results have been positive, despite using the worst version possible.

    • @MissBlackMetal
      @MissBlackMetal 5 місяців тому

      Oh hey neighbor! I didn't know DC had synthetic psilo floating around. I imagine it's possible your set and/or setting poorly affected your experience too, considering how important they are and how differences in set and setting can cause wild variations in one's experience, despite everything else being the same (dose, batch, etc.).

    • @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425
      @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425 5 місяців тому

      @@MissBlackMetal I have only microdosed. It was definitely the mushrooms themselves. We live near Baltimore, so it's not surprising I came across them at some time.

  • @milford8485
    @milford8485 5 місяців тому +42

    It's because mushrooms are really good for us. They want us to eat sugar & wheat to mess us up

    • @billfromnxtdoor5575
      @billfromnxtdoor5575 5 місяців тому +4

      Schizo

    • @oakmaiden2133
      @oakmaiden2133 5 місяців тому +1

      Lol, many ppl are allergic. Restaurant conspiracy.

    • @PocketFoodArt
      @PocketFoodArt 5 місяців тому

      Peat moss is a non renewable resource the takes thousands of years to develop AND REQUIRES the destruction of an entire ecosystem that WILL NEVER RETURN IN OUR LIFETIME. Companies around the world are going to have to find different materials.

    • @ericwiese7479
      @ericwiese7479 5 місяців тому

      Probably…..and sugar is way cheaper than shroomies

  • @windupmerchant1679
    @windupmerchant1679 5 місяців тому +4

    As a landscaper living in Ireland, the use of peat has been a topical debate for a long time now for horticultural use here, so I'm not overly surprised to hear this. Looking at the comment section, many people think this is a direct attack on the mushroom industry, which I don't see as that. The fact that they are a governing body responsible for nature conservation it is within their interest not to support the process of damaging peatland especially when peat moss is avoidable. Personally, I never use peat moss and I know many landscapers who avoid using it as it is only cheap, but not necessary as there are many readily available alternatives. I guess the motive is to get growers to find suitable and sustainable alternatives.

    • @standingbear998
      @standingbear998 5 місяців тому

      not serving mushrooms is not the answer to the issue you describe. not that I think it is a issue at all.

    • @windupmerchant1679
      @windupmerchant1679 5 місяців тому

      @@standingbear998 As a customer, it's their right to spend their money how they see fit, at the end of the day.

    • @PocketFoodArt
      @PocketFoodArt 5 місяців тому +1

      THANK YOU people don’t get that peat moss is like a rainforest, it doesn’t just “grow back” they take centuries to form. People don’t understand that it’s a non-renewable resource.

  • @fusion9619
    @fusion9619 5 місяців тому +1

    Ah, you answered in the first sentence - its the UK.

  • @realone4341
    @realone4341 5 місяців тому +1

    A classic example to knowing the facts but trying to manage the easiet often least impactful course of action. BTW: love the FreshCap.

  • @navinnavin2498
    @navinnavin2498 5 місяців тому +2

    Nice beard

  • @ToreMix7400
    @ToreMix7400 Місяць тому

    if only 10% of the psilocin passes the primary liver metabolism, will a reversible MAO inhibitor, like Syrian Rue alkaloids or moclobemid be making a Psilocybe Ayahuasca?
    I don't think I need really strong doses anymore, but if you can get potent effects from a 1 mg dose of psilocybin and 50 mg of harmaline, it would be interesting to know how similar to Ayahuasca dmt you can get 4-OH-Dmt...
    just a thought..

  • @BanFamilyVlogging
    @BanFamilyVlogging 5 місяців тому +2

    Thank you for sharing this information! 💜

  • @Daniel-vs9ym
    @Daniel-vs9ym 5 місяців тому

    I used to be a member of the National Trust, ironically nearly all the menu includes meat and dairy.....hmmm. Maybe they should consider getting mushrooms from another supplier as well as reducing meat and dairy from their menus?

  • @zackwhite5959
    @zackwhite5959 5 місяців тому +1

    I'm just here to say Tony has been looking quite jacked lately, he used to be so skinny! Keep up whatever you're doing

  • @moo1388
    @moo1388 5 місяців тому

    Without listening to this I appreciate the ban! People might still find something to eat after the 10 corporations who own the world's food supplies collapse. Ps. Don't over harvest my friends,take what you need ,leave the spores

  • @mothtube12
    @mothtube12 5 місяців тому +1

    Great content sir! I appreciate somebody who will focus on the technical details of relatively nascent scientific field. Eat more mushrooms!

  • @ToreMix7400
    @ToreMix7400 Місяць тому

    Lab grown meat is more green house gas releasing than having cows on grass land (in addition to harvesting grass for the winters).

  • @xxdragonrenderxx
    @xxdragonrenderxx 5 місяців тому

    The only reason meat industry makes carbon is bad practices aswell

  • @j7a7m77
    @j7a7m77 5 місяців тому

    The show is great, love the videos…. Your beard is upsetting

  • @bobpage682
    @bobpage682 5 місяців тому

    Where's the best place to aquire dried mushrooms re psychedelic

  • @sweetchariotengland
    @sweetchariotengland 5 місяців тому

    A tonne of concrete creates a tonne of co2.
    How many of those have been made since 1990?

  • @Ranga1.0
    @Ranga1.0 5 місяців тому

    this means mushroom farming is a falling business in the world?

  • @jeffhays1968
    @jeffhays1968 5 місяців тому +1

    4-ACO for sure is much cheaper.

  • @lovesiriusblack
    @lovesiriusblack 5 місяців тому +8

    Btw, is must be the definition of irony that the UK doesn't have a sufficient supply of tea waste 6:12
    Perhaps a reform in how tea waste is handled is in need?

  • @ReallyBlazinGarage
    @ReallyBlazinGarage 5 місяців тому +1

    They’re doing what!? 😮

  • @macdaddy22250
    @macdaddy22250 5 місяців тому

    Could it be because a lot of peat is from Russia?

  • @cuznclive2236
    @cuznclive2236 5 місяців тому

    Good stuff, but cheap shot at my steak.

  • @mr.giggles4995
    @mr.giggles4995 5 місяців тому

    Imagine an entire agaricus farm covered in Orbeez... 😅 the destruction of bogs and wetlands is really bad though, unless you're growing outdoors with totems you will have a negative impact on the environment.

  • @oxon8871
    @oxon8871 5 місяців тому +1

    Hmm... I wonder what the effect would be if synthetic psilocybin were combined with whole mushrooms. The ingestion of the later would provide the entourage, while the former would remain more precisely controllable.

    • @ianajames
      @ianajames 5 місяців тому

      consistent variable plus inconsistent variable in total, equals inconsistent variable. if testing cheap, quick and with high accuracy... consistency can be easily achieved with whole mushroom. then, how to navigate the complexity of multiple compound quantities(idk if science is that efficient yet).

    • @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425
      @anotherjewishsharpnicholas9425 5 місяців тому

      You would just have less entourage effect, meaning more negative aspects then if you only had the real one.

  • @ianajames
    @ianajames 5 місяців тому

    don't need to ask the mice, i'll tell you upfront. yes. different.
    i love how you nailed it... how to shore up variability? on demand cheap and effective testing... adjust accordingly.

  • @ImaBotNot
    @ImaBotNot 5 місяців тому

    Agaricus/ button mushrooms can be carcinogenic if not cooked super well.

  • @lauraw.7008
    @lauraw.7008 2 місяці тому

    Coconut coir, rice husks.

  • @grobonsai
    @grobonsai 5 місяців тому

    They haven’t banned mushrooms, they’ve removed the mushrooms grown with peat from their menus. Trouble is in the U.K. that’s pretty much all mushrooms because hardwood-grown ‘gourmets’ aren’t widely grown or used. If non-peat grown mushrooms were widely available and consumed, they would most likely put those in the menu!
    The peat ban will absolutely happen in the U.K. there is zero doubt.

  • @laurenwhite7127
    @laurenwhite7127 4 місяці тому

    Claiming change...😂

  • @Tracy-wr7mj
    @Tracy-wr7mj 5 місяців тому +4

    isnt getting rid of trees being considered by gil bates..

  • @Daniko2
    @Daniko2 5 місяців тому +1

    Peat moss isn't particularly renewable, and peat bogs are some of the world's best carbon sinks. While peat moss doesn't take as long to form as coal or oil, it does take thousands of years. It's being harvested far more quickly than it can form.
    Scaling up the use of mushrooms is wonderful: they are awesome meat substitutes, healthy, and really tasty. But as long as button, cremini, and portobello mushrooms are so much more prevalent than other types of mushroom, it seems a bit irresponsible to encourage massive increases in mushroom use without making every effort to prevent greater use from creating environmental damage. Scale matters. Peat on mushrooms may or may not be that much of a problem now, but to grow enough mushrooms to become a common staple in people's diets--which is the goal--it definitely will be.

  • @telotawa
    @telotawa 5 місяців тому

    the UK being braindead again

  • @wamlartmuse17
    @wamlartmuse17 5 місяців тому

    I use vermiculite.

  • @ANew-cs5vy
    @ANew-cs5vy 5 місяців тому +1

    Mushrooms are great, but as a meat replacement,? NO THANKS! As a meat enhancement? YES PLEASE!

  • @JOSEPHDANCE75
    @JOSEPHDANCE75 5 місяців тому

    control

  • @c.m.303
    @c.m.303 5 місяців тому +4

    The problem is people falling for this attack on carbon, but not realizing we are carbon!

    • @telotawa
      @telotawa 5 місяців тому

      0 iq commenter

    • @crono3339
      @crono3339 5 місяців тому +2

      We are also water, but we can drown.

    • @InReality33
      @InReality33 5 місяців тому +1

      You nailed it.

    • @FunFreakeyy
      @FunFreakeyy 5 місяців тому

      ​@@crono3339Right, we can even die if we drink too much plain water and losing too many electrolytes, like it was the case with several marathon runners. But that may be too complex to understand for some people here...

  • @sykoteddy
    @sykoteddy 5 місяців тому +2

    You know, you could just ban the use of peat moss and not the damn mushrooms themselves! This sound pretty much like the EU directives when we joined EU. But the paradoxical thing is that Great Britain isn't even a part of it anymore. I'm from Sweden and I remember I heard there was stupid rules such as that a banana has to have a specific bend and that strawberries have to have a certain red color or whatever to be sold in supermarkets. I don't know if it's true though.

    • @PocketFoodArt
      @PocketFoodArt 5 місяців тому

      I believe that is actually beginning to happen, thank god.

  • @nackyeads2508
    @nackyeads2508 5 місяців тому

    Hi Tony, you do such a good job with this show! I have a suggestion for a topic I would like to know the answer to.
    I recently learned about oxalate toxicity in many plants, as well as lectins and several otters, and while I can give up plants, the mushrooms are another problem. I mean the functional mushrooms in your ultimate mushroom complex specifically. I don’t add it to coffee, because I feel better without coffee anyway. I just use it as a coffee substitute. After I heard Sally K Norton, author of TOXIC SUPERFOODS explain what trouble she dealt with because she consumed a high oxalate diet for most of her life, my own strategy is to steer clear of them! But what about my fav mushrooms? Sally is very approachable and is an authority on the research on oxalates so I guess you could start with her. 😊🍄

  • @jaroslav6109
    @jaroslav6109 5 місяців тому

    Planet needs more CO2 not less!

  • @AethericEchoes
    @AethericEchoes 5 місяців тому +1

    What causes more harm: Climate change or climate change alarmists?

  • @wamlartmuse17
    @wamlartmuse17 5 місяців тому

    Before it's even discussed.. natural mushrooms are the best for medicinal reasons. Just like weed, everyone pays attention to the main psychoactive chemical, but won't think about or study the rest of the compounds.
    Edit: yes, full spectrum 👍.

  • @wojohowitz5432
    @wojohowitz5432 5 місяців тому +1

    i Love mushrooms. I also love Truth. It would be beneficial for you and everyone within this space to actually learn the truth behind the climate scam and to STOP promoting falsehoods regarding animals, plants, humans and their so called relationship to a climate that has always changed. Dancing around the truth lacks courage AND benefit.

    • @FunFreakeyy
      @FunFreakeyy 5 місяців тому

      If you're too skeptical and mistrust anything you won't find truth, but instead people that simply make money with mistrust. They're exactly what they criticize but only on the other side. This topic is big business on the internet.

  • @frankelter5498
    @frankelter5498 5 місяців тому

    Look what mushrooms have done at chernoble

  • @jeremyrunciman241
    @jeremyrunciman241 5 місяців тому

    Killbill was a great idea for a movie

  • @f.d.6667
    @f.d.6667 5 місяців тому +1

    Hmmmm. Funny. Seems like my comment has "disappeared"... well, anyway: I used to live in the UK. Very nice people but there is a big issue with their mass media who have always had a big problem telling fact from fiction. One of the consequences is that people in the UK often mistake the feel-good symbolic actions for behavior that actually has long-term beneficial consequences. Pick any popular subject (long-term weather patterns, ecological or societal issues), and you will find that the most hare-brained activism will actually gather some support, which then gets picked up by said media, resulting in a dysfunctional feedback-loop.
    .
    As for the mushroom panic of the NT, people literally just need to stand on the Cliffs of Dover and look across the Channel to see that aged horse poop makes for the best substrate one can think of. No peat involved! But I suppose dramatic overreacting is just more popular with a younger crowd than a level-headed approach to the problem and a bit of common sense.
    .
    Literally minutes after my comment, this popped up in my feed: ua-cam.com/video/GLKnmmbUTkg/v-deo.htmlfeature=shared

  • @dickfleissner8257
    @dickfleissner8257 5 місяців тому

    Thank you for posting.