Nice presentation. Love Brocky and his contributions as well. As per the dialogue at minute 2, perhaps you were not aware, but the first demonstration of a friction hitch that works as an SRT ascent device (that I am aware of) was the JRB Ascender Hitch Introduction in Oct 2021. Since then, it has been demonstrated on the Agile, Longhorn Agile, and Longhorn Zenith. There's some other climbers doing similar stuff now, which is great.
When I said it "never really had been done before," I was more or less just trying to highlight how rare the Sticht hitch, and Soft Sticht, are in the world of friction hitches. Didn't want to go into depth about all friction hitches of that type. However, my words were certainly ambiguous and many may believe I'm suggesting that the Sticht was the VERY first of its kind. If the JRB Ascender is actually the first friction hitch to work SRS without a rope wrench, then my apologies, John. I honestly was not aware of that. I'll have to ask Brocky when he put out the Sticht now out of curiosity. Thanks for stopping by and commenting again! I appreciate it!
Quick question: Do you own and operate the SaddleHunter forum? Or is that someone else's brain child? I just started posting on there yesterday. Everyone seems pretty friendly so far.
Brocky told me that he came up with the Oval VT around 2010 and the Sticht hitch between 2013-14. The Synergy X was created shortly after the Oval VT, making it older than both the Sticht and your series of hitches. But it appears that the Sticht did precede your hitches, which was always my instinct. I have no reason to believe that Brocky would fabricate evidence over a "hitch novelty" dispute. I'm inclined to take him at his word.
That’s pretty slick. It’s always nice to have another tool in the toolbox. This would be another good option for rigging even if a climber doesn’t want to use it in the tree. Great presentation and explanation. I would recommend one change in terminology, since tree climbers are the audience being addressed. “Host rope” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it as “lifeline” or “climb line “. I prefer lifeline as it alludes to safety right off the bat and that’s crucial when offering instruction to tree climbers in training.
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed my video! As for your recommendation regarding terminology, this video was all about a friction hitch and, in the world of hitch nomenclature, "host rope" is the proper term for referring to the rope onto which a friction hitch has been tied. While it may sound more familiar for you to hear "climb line" or "lifeline," it's important that people also learn new terms from my channel and from my content. While I appreciate your suggestion, I made use of the most relevant and appropriate term for the rope given the nature and subject matter of the video. I hope this makes sense to you. Thanks again! =-D
You'll actually notice that in all of my videos about climbing, the terminology for the rope will be different. So I really do appreciate your suggestion. I frequently use terms like "climb line" when I discuss the rope in those videos. So I completely understand why you were inclined to do so for this video. Friction hitches just happen to have some unique and different vocabulary and it takes some getting used to. =-)
You could do that for sure. Just make the loops for the two eyes longer so that they reach just below the hitch, install pulley, and you're good to go. The eyes don't have to be so tight as is shown in the video. I hope I answered your question and understood you correctly!
Thanks for sharing. I climb with the JRB Ascender and Longhorn Agile hitches. Would like to try this hitch, what length cord did you use here? Have a great day!
Thanks for commenting! I used a 64" length of 10mm diameter cord for this demonstration on an 11mm Yale Bifrost rope. I used a bright, large length of cordage to make it easier to see what's going on. However, this hitch would ideally be tied with an 8-9mm length of cord for an 11mm diameter rope. Great question.
Isn't she beautiful?! Easily my favorite rope cover pattern of all time. I use it for my lanyard. It's the "Bifrost" by Yale Cordage and it's 11mm diameter and super static. I want to buy 200 feet of it before they maybe someday discontinue it.
This. All I see is contact of rope on rope. Nowhere is there an incorporation of hardware that gives the climbing rope an extra bend. That bend takes away extra friction of the hitch...
I honestly have to agree with you both. As far as I'm concerned, I'd much rather just use a rope wrench with a less complicated friction hitch. I enjoy using a wrench. This type of friction hitch could cause too much abrasion on the rope. Not too concerned about eating through hitch cords, because that's very hard to do if they are aramid.
I use a Figure 8 below my rope wrench if I have a long descent to make. I just clip the 8 to my right lower D and descend with it and the wrench together. Hope that makes sense.
@@Knot-orious the original hitch with the ring looks like a good user, and your 8 stopper does make sense. Cheers from Florida! Always love your creativity
STICHT, with a "T" at the end. The STICHT is a piece of climbing hardware that works similarly to an ATC, but in combination with a friction hitch, and it is the namesake of this friction hitch.
Nice presentation. Love Brocky and his contributions as well. As per the dialogue at minute 2, perhaps you were not aware, but the first demonstration of a friction hitch that works as an SRT ascent device (that I am aware of) was the JRB Ascender Hitch Introduction in Oct 2021. Since then, it has been demonstrated on the Agile, Longhorn Agile, and Longhorn Zenith. There's some other climbers doing similar stuff now, which is great.
When I said it "never really had been done before," I was more or less just trying to highlight how rare the Sticht hitch, and Soft Sticht, are in the world of friction hitches. Didn't want to go into depth about all friction hitches of that type. However, my words were certainly ambiguous and many may believe I'm suggesting that the Sticht was the VERY first of its kind. If the JRB Ascender is actually the first friction hitch to work SRS without a rope wrench, then my apologies, John. I honestly was not aware of that. I'll have to ask Brocky when he put out the Sticht now out of curiosity. Thanks for stopping by and commenting again! I appreciate it!
Quick question: Do you own and operate the SaddleHunter forum? Or is that someone else's brain child? I just started posting on there yesterday. Everyone seems pretty friendly so far.
@Knot-orious i am a member there. I am not an administrator.
Okay, thanks. I know you have a lot of projects, so I wasn't sure if the forum was one of them.
Brocky told me that he came up with the Oval VT around 2010 and the Sticht hitch between 2013-14. The Synergy X was created shortly after the Oval VT, making it older than both the Sticht and your series of hitches. But it appears that the Sticht did precede your hitches, which was always my instinct. I have no reason to believe that Brocky would fabricate evidence over a "hitch novelty" dispute. I'm inclined to take him at his word.
Your presentation is getting much better. Your intro was on point buddy. Keep it up!
Thanks so much, brojangles! I appreciate your feedback! Glad I'm making progress with my presentation! =-D
That’s pretty slick. It’s always nice to have another tool in the toolbox. This would be another good option for rigging even if a climber doesn’t want to use it in the tree. Great presentation and explanation. I would recommend one change in terminology, since tree climbers are the audience being addressed. “Host rope” doesn’t have quite the same ring to it as “lifeline” or “climb line “. I prefer lifeline as it alludes to safety right off the bat and that’s crucial when offering instruction to tree climbers in training.
Thanks so much! I'm so glad you enjoyed my video! As for your recommendation regarding terminology, this video was all about a friction hitch and, in the world of hitch nomenclature, "host rope" is the proper term for referring to the rope onto which a friction hitch has been tied. While it may sound more familiar for you to hear "climb line" or "lifeline," it's important that people also learn new terms from my channel and from my content. While I appreciate your suggestion, I made use of the most relevant and appropriate term for the rope given the nature and subject matter of the video. I hope this makes sense to you. Thanks again! =-D
@ gotcha 👍
You'll actually notice that in all of my videos about climbing, the terminology for the rope will be different. So I really do appreciate your suggestion. I frequently use terms like "climb line" when I discuss the rope in those videos. So I completely understand why you were inclined to do so for this video. Friction hitches just happen to have some unique and different vocabulary and it takes some getting used to. =-)
another nice video THANKS
You're very welcome! I'm happy that you like my video! Thanks for thanking me and for commenting! =-D
Appreciate your enthusiasm and creativity.
What about adding a fair lead tending pully at the bottom of the hitch? Doesn't seem feasible.
You could do that for sure. Just make the loops for the two eyes longer so that they reach just below the hitch, install pulley, and you're good to go. The eyes don't have to be so tight as is shown in the video. I hope I answered your question and understood you correctly!
Beautiful, love it! I'll try this Magic
Very compact, a word class hitch my friend
Happy you love the hitch! This is definitely one of the cooler friction hitches out there for sure! Very unique and special and, yes, quite compact!
Thanks for sharing.
I climb with the JRB Ascender and Longhorn Agile hitches.
Would like to try this hitch, what length cord did you use here?
Have a great day!
Thanks for commenting! I used a 64" length of 10mm diameter cord for this demonstration on an 11mm Yale Bifrost rope. I used a bright, large length of cordage to make it easier to see what's going on. However, this hitch would ideally be tied with an 8-9mm length of cord for an 11mm diameter rope. Great question.
@@Knot-oriousThank you!
Have a great day!
You as well! =-D
Omg that rainbow climbing line is gorgeous 😍 what's it called???
Isn't she beautiful?! Easily my favorite rope cover pattern of all time. I use it for my lanyard. It's the "Bifrost" by Yale Cordage and it's 11mm diameter and super static. I want to buy 200 feet of it before they maybe someday discontinue it.
Great 😃
@@Truth452 Thank you very much!
Nice can't wait to try it out. If it works well for my climbing style, I will give you guys credit on my channel. Thank you.
No problem! I appreciate the comment! Give it a try and return back with your honest impressions! Always appreciate recognition! Thanks!
@@Knot-orious You bet, thanks.
Seems like it would be bad for repelling out of a tree? Maybe burn thru hitch cords real fast if you run it too fast too often. Still neat!
This. All I see is contact of rope on rope. Nowhere is there an incorporation of hardware that gives the climbing rope an extra bend. That bend takes away extra friction of the hitch...
I honestly have to agree with you both. As far as I'm concerned, I'd much rather just use a rope wrench with a less complicated friction hitch. I enjoy using a wrench. This type of friction hitch could cause too much abrasion on the rope. Not too concerned about eating through hitch cords, because that's very hard to do if they are aramid.
This is why you need to rappel with a Munter or figure 8.
The hitch is just a backup.
I use a Figure 8 below my rope wrench if I have a long descent to make. I just clip the 8 to my right lower D and descend with it and the wrench together. Hope that makes sense.
@@Knot-orious the original hitch with the ring looks like a good user, and your 8 stopper does make sense. Cheers from Florida! Always love your creativity
Stitch?
STICHT, with a "T" at the end. The STICHT is a piece of climbing hardware that works similarly to an ATC, but in combination with a friction hitch, and it is the namesake of this friction hitch.
@Knot-orious aha, gotcha! Cheers for that!
Sure thing! =-D
I pronounce it like "stickT", but will of course defer to Brocky.
@@ma-pg4mz I think a lot of people pronounce it that way, but I of course used the correct pronunciation in my video! =-D
Meh! Good work.
Thanks a lot! I really appreciate your feedback! =-D