This is the best tip. I started my corners right at the end of my work day and it was not going well. I then found your video. Best tip ever!! it made the job so easy and looks perfect. Thank you!
I have been watching your videos lately and subscribed. You good man you know your trade. I think what I like the most is your nice to your horns and truly want to teach them the trade. To be honest most guys aren't as I'm sure you have learned over the years. Keep up the good work brother and dont let the haters get you down.
Good idea. You could also bend over tab on the bottom so bees and mice dont go up there. also I think your just suppose to nail the top on tight, rest of the nails should be loose for expansion of the vinyl
It's amazing all the steps to do something that looks simple,I've been in construction industry for 30 years-there's nothing simple when done correctly.
Hey, does one place the nails square flat on corners or a little loose in the middle to allow for that corner piece to expand contract vertically ? thanks.
When it comes to j channel and corners most guys aren't leaving much space for expansion and contraction. MUST HAVE on the siding, but for the corners and j....it's only a nice idea lol it doesn't make much sense. Gets in the way of sliding siding in, doesn't hold corners or j tight to surface you want it tight to..etc
When the corners are installed they only put like 4 nails... Then as I'm putting up vinyl they say I can try to place 1 nail on the corner and the siding. But only if I can since the holes might be on the same spot
I see the expose nailing flange on houses all the time and it kills me. I hate seeing it. But I'll actually just do about a 45 cut on the bottom. You might see a little bit of that 45 but you don't see any nail hole and it looks nice and pretty
I don’t slam my nails in my corner when I do them so it has play just like the siding the only thing I nail in like that are j trim if that corner was dark colour would look like shit buckled everywhere
Just put the corner drop on the corner of the walls , get it square and draw the nailer in a few spots all the way down then you dont have to drive any nails or pop a chalk line
I've watched most of your videos here lately in preparation of residing my own home and really like what you have offered. What I keep hearing from you is steps to save time. I'm guessing that by the name of your company and the fact that you often wear clothing with military themed markings, i.e. the American Flag on the shoulder, you are former military as I am. If so thank you for your service! Next the old adage time is money, certainly applies. But as I/we were taught in the military (USMC), seconds are minutes, minutes are hours,hours are days,ect... This is taught as much for efficiency through repetition as it is for reduced exposure and clear thinking to do the job right the first time for mission/task success!
I do it for quality, no guess work helps with speed as well. I only step back to look at it one time. Helps everybody on the crew too so I don't have to take down their corners
Shoot it all excites me! I really wish somebody taught me the tricks for shingling. all the little things add up to be a monster problem solver and efficient installer. but that goes with everything. honestly I just wanted to know it all. I had a really good foreman who didn't do much teaching but he had an answer for everything. I Mean EVERYTHING. He was a hell of a framer that was great at anything he put his hands on and I wanted to have the same level of skills as soon as possible. Roofing, siding, soffit, fascia, framing, windows and doors for the most part. My advice to anybody starting out is to start with a solid year of framing because that's the best base to have in my opinion. Then move to the rest over time because that will all come very quickly. I was fortunate enough to work for a company that did it all. Including Demo of burnt down houses and the rebuilds.
This only works if your actual corner from the building is leveled... not sure if you checked level as there was no mention of it, this is why corners are made this way to allow you some room to correct "bad corners" but also you cut the falange and leave a hole at the bottom of the corner? nice for bees and other bugs to nest lol
.Good video...hater herd, keep in mind this is to show how to easily get a corner straight if you are teaching a green horn..if you are pro...good for you, post a video of your way......I would like to add that when you mark for your chalk line..it's pretty easy to make 2 extra marks and ditch the chalk line all together..also on crooked houses the chalk line is also a plumb-bob you hook on the top nail to get things straight..00.02
I was thinking you don't really need to snap a line, if you measure out on the top and bottom and line up the corner piece with those marks, it will be straight, at least with the stronger outside corner pieces, if they are the cheap flimsy shit, which you should avoid anyway, then yes, probably will need to snap a line to get it straight all the way down.
Your first nail is good... but they other nail should be all in the middle of the nail hole and not tight so when the garage will drop (because every house or garage drop over after couple years because of the weights) he gonna wable and look like shit
Dude ive never snapd a line for a corner in my life. U should cut the top off leaving 5/8 of nailing falange in tact so buts against wood soffit n leaves way for new s j unless big fascia overhang. U use ur hand as a square plus siteing it
How do you know that measuring trick but don't know how to nail a corner. Needs room to expand and contract just like siding. What are you doing with them rusty ass snips even in your bags?
I would have had two corners on and dead straight in the time it took him to get those lines popped. If your helpers can't install that without popping lines, have them do something else. It takes all of 45 seconds to properly install a corner post.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction you don't have to worry about all of your corner siding lining up perfect either because it's hidden under 4 inch corners. You can see what they look like on our website.
Everything was up to date. The only thing different I would've did was fold the bottoms so no insects or animals would get in the bottom. Pop rivet will definitely solve the issue. I'm the best j channel man out of pa so hit me for comments or better solutions when it comes to siding
Just buy the foam inserts, takes 2 seconds rather than 3 minutes, or just get good at roughing them in, the time it takes you to snap those lines is too long, would have already had the corner on and straight by then
Hey buddy there's a much faster way to do that. Since you always do your boxing first you will have scrap metal by the time your ready to hang siding. So take a scrap piece of metal and bend a L shape to width of your corner. Use that same piece to mark all your corners on the house. Also should only nail 2 top nails in all the way then nail the rest of them leaving nail head roughly 1/16 -1/8 sticking out so siding can expand and contract with temps
It's not garbage dude. The old shit was. But a decent panel can look good and function for 25 years. My mom's siding isn't even the good shit, it's 19 years old and still power washes brand new. This is the affordable stuff for the majority of the midwest and a thicker panel like .044 or .046 is way different than trash you're thinking of
@@NWIVeteranConstruction: Wow!!! 25 years??? Looking and lasting just like a trailer like I said. Meanwhile the house my great-great-grandfather built in 1859 still has all the original clapboards in perfect shape like every other old house around here.
Your hammer is too big for you. You lack real precision with it. I was impressed with the hammer flip though. Everyone knows thats the mark of a true pro.
I'm glad you don't learn from me. You must think you have the best way to do everything. You'll stagnate and young guys who are open minded will prove better than you
@@NWIVeteranConstruction been doing siding for more then 35 years bud.. first thing you should do is installed the soffit first easier that way. I measure from the corner out then use a 6 foot level to mark then .just follow the plumb line..
@@DuStY_rZz653 look at any corner post or Jay channel video. You do not float your nails the same as your siding. It would actually block the siding from going into the corners. I didn't slam the ever living daylights out of these nails. They're just sunk in all the way.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction sorry must of had a few drinks in me when i typed that out....what i was trying to say is i use a level on one side of my corner for a bout 4 feet and just put 2 nails in then i let the product decide square .... you are relying on the house corner to be square and here i get into 100 year old house + commonly....chalk lines are nice just time is all
This is the best tip. I started my corners right at the end of my work day and it was not going well. I then found your video. Best tip ever!! it made the job so easy and looks perfect. Thank you!
I have been watching your videos lately and subscribed. You good man you know your trade. I think what I like the most is your nice to your horns and truly want to teach them the trade. To be honest most guys aren't as I'm sure you have learned over the years. Keep up the good work brother and dont let the haters get you down.
Good idea. You could also bend over tab on the bottom so bees and mice dont go up there. also I think your just suppose to nail the top on tight, rest of the nails should be loose for expansion of the vinyl
Thanks you answered my question. I am a beginner I was wondering about that stuff. Plus we have wasp around here that make nest!
I prefer to stick steel wool in the bottom of the corners. The corners still breathe and critters won't chew or touch it.
Thanks for sharing more of the tips/tricks that you use with the trade
It's amazing all the steps to do something that looks simple,I've been in construction industry for 30 years-there's nothing simple when done correctly.
Great tip, definitely allot faster than doing it by eye, wish I known this when I did my house, all well learn something new everyday.
Sorry I didn't think about this sooner lol im sure it turned out fine though!
@@NWIVeteranConstruction it came out great, just took about 3 times longer.
Great video as always have learned a lot from these videos
Good tip Zack. Thanks for posting it.
Thanks for sharing your tips/tricks
Very helpful! Thanks for making this video!
You need to loose nail it!!! It will buckle!!
thats why he is a roofer. fuck i could of put all corners on house in that time
Thanks for your post. I've tried to eyeball these things to get them straight and it's never worked. Even harder to do when you're up on a ladder.
Good tip...nice T-shirt
I tape my corners to the Tyvex so future power washing jobs don't get behind the corner where they likely joined Tyvex. Just extra protection.
Man this a great video dude thanks so much
Great tip. Thank you
Great video!
Hey, does one place the nails square flat on corners or a little loose in the middle to allow for that corner piece to expand contract vertically ? thanks.
When it comes to j channel and corners most guys aren't leaving much space for expansion and contraction. MUST HAVE on the siding, but for the corners and j....it's only a nice idea lol it doesn't make much sense. Gets in the way of sliding siding in, doesn't hold corners or j tight to surface you want it tight to..etc
When the corners are installed they only put like 4 nails... Then as I'm putting up vinyl they say I can try to place 1 nail on the corner and the siding. But only if I can since the holes might be on the same spot
Thankyou for thé tip great job
No problem!
As long as the corner of the house is straight & not warped & bowed, this could work nice.
I use it every time. Framing squares have measurements on them and work really nicely to keep your numbers accurate on wonky framed corners
Why didn’t close up the bottom of the corner post? Are there good reasons to do and or not to do this?
I'm thinking that better be a straight ass corner post for the time it takes
I see the expose nailing flange on houses all the time and it kills me. I hate seeing it. But I'll actually just do about a 45 cut on the bottom. You might see a little bit of that 45 but you don't see any nail hole and it looks nice and pretty
I don’t slam my nails in my corner when I do them so it has play just like the siding the only thing I nail in like that are j trim if that corner was dark colour would look like shit buckled everywhere
Any reason why you didn't close the bottom of the corner?
That is an eastwing and this man knows how to spin it I must be home
Just put the corner drop on the corner of the walls , get it square and draw the nailer in a few spots all the way down then you dont have to drive any nails or pop a chalk line
I've watched most of your videos here lately in preparation of residing my own home and really like what you have offered. What I keep hearing from you is steps to save time. I'm guessing that by the name of your company and the fact that you often wear clothing with military themed markings, i.e. the American Flag on the shoulder, you are former military as I am. If so thank you for your service! Next the old adage time is money, certainly applies. But as I/we were taught in the military (USMC), seconds are minutes, minutes are hours,hours are days,ect... This is taught as much for efficiency through repetition as it is for reduced exposure and clear thinking to do the job right the first time for mission/task success!
Hell yea brotha. Glad I could help
Hire a pro 🤣
Nice work. Thanks for showing your talent bro! Is that the customer hanging around? I get that every once and awhile. Thanks again 👍
She did more than hang around lol. 68 yrs old n was out there bird dawg'n and working with us. She had nothing better to do
Push the button when pulling your line out. 🤘🏼
You still have to have a straight up and down corner for this to be effective. Any deviation and it won't be a perfect 90.
Was just about to say, I’ve been siding for only 2 years and I’ve sadly never had a perfect 90* corner
How long have you been siding that you need to snap lines for your corners?
I do it for quality, no guess work helps with speed as well. I only step back to look at it one time. Helps everybody on the crew too so I don't have to take down their corners
Damn right.. the guys I work for they just eye ball it.
“This is pretty haavy stata”
Lmao
do you always wrap 1x around the corners before adding corner post?
Straight but not square forgot to add for the catch on the speed square, about 3/16 of a inch
You can see I still adjust one side off of the line exactly that much because I could tell that the number or corner was off that much.
Hey zack. What skills would you of liked to know about as a beginner carpenter?
Shoot it all excites me! I really wish somebody taught me the tricks for shingling. all the little things add up to be a monster problem solver and efficient installer. but that goes with everything. honestly I just wanted to know it all. I had a really good foreman who didn't do much teaching but he had an answer for everything. I Mean EVERYTHING. He was a hell of a framer that was great at anything he put his hands on and I wanted to have the same level of skills as soon as possible. Roofing, siding, soffit, fascia, framing, windows and doors for the most part. My advice to anybody starting out is to start with a solid year of framing because that's the best base to have in my opinion. Then move to the rest over time because that will all come very quickly. I was fortunate enough to work for a company that did it all. Including Demo of burnt down houses and the rebuilds.
Worlds Fastest Shingler thanks. It looks like I got a union apprenticeship lined up for spring when I finish School.
Best way i seen.
Thank you. It works even better if you use a framing square to mark the numbers on the wall. I demonstrate that in a newer video
This only works if your actual corner from the building is leveled... not sure if you checked level as there was no mention of it, this is why corners are made this way to allow you some room to correct "bad corners" but also you cut the falange and leave a hole at the bottom of the corner? nice for bees and other bugs to nest lol
.Good video...hater herd, keep in mind this is to show how to easily get a corner straight if you are teaching a green horn..if you are pro...good for you, post a video of your way......I would like to add that when you mark for your chalk line..it's pretty easy to make 2 extra marks and ditch the chalk line all together..also on crooked houses the chalk line is also a plumb-bob you hook on the top nail to get things straight..00.02
You don't want to know what country folk and amish think about the so called pro .
I thought all vinyl was supposed to float? Not nailed fast. Weather its siding, corners, J-channel, etc.
siding floats...all outside, inside, j channel, f channel, etc. nailed tight
Edgar? The osb or the fundation?
Dude I got a situation with inside corners. Meeting soffit . Top of windows. 20 foot commercial building. Help
haha get at me on instagram if you still need help me the answers. i put it in my community tab a few months ago
How about use a level ???
I don't usually find that to work better
How much you left below tje battom edge?
About an inch. No more than that in my opinion or it looks weird
Awesome
Bold of you to assume the corner is square! 😅
I was thinking you don't really need to snap a line, if you measure out on the top and bottom and line up the corner piece with those marks, it will be straight, at least with the stronger outside corner pieces, if they are the cheap flimsy shit, which you should avoid anyway, then yes, probably will need to snap a line to get it straight all the way down.
Shouldn't you put your soffit in and housewrap over your Fanwood 1st?
Thanks
Your first nail is good... but they other nail should be all in the middle of the nail hole and not tight so when the garage will drop (because every house or garage drop over after couple years because of the weights) he gonna wable and look like shit
Dude ive never snapd a line for a corner in my life. U should cut the top off leaving 5/8 of nailing falange in tact so buts against wood soffit n leaves way for new s j unless big fascia overhang. U use ur hand as a square plus siteing it
You’re nailing your corners tight????
I was thinking the same thing. It's a nice vinyl corner on buckle city 👌🏿
How do you know that measuring trick but don't know how to nail a corner. Needs room to expand and contract just like siding. What are you doing with them rusty ass snips even in your bags?
Mind your business. Everybody nails their corners and j home. As long as the corners are not balls tight to objects there will never be an issue.
The magic #is 3 -11/16
I would have had two corners on and dead straight in the time it took him to get those lines popped. If your helpers can't install that without popping lines, have them do something else. It takes all of 45 seconds to properly install a corner post.
These videos ain't just for pro installers bro. And I really doubt that.
45 seconds....lol....
You funny
If you're so darn good, why don't you post a video!!!
I bend my own steel corners even on vinyl jobs. I can't stand those vinyl corners myself
Really? Never heard of that. Wouldn't mind seeing it done
@@NWIVeteranConstruction you don't have to worry about all of your corner siding lining up perfect either because it's hidden under 4 inch corners. You can see what they look like on our website.
@@NWIVeteranConstruction it comes down to preference but it's another option
I tried to link the website but youtube deleted me. Lol
I just do a 3/4 hem on both sides then 4 inches each side of the 90. Way easier to replace if they are ever damaged too
Lmao at brad
Mmmmmmmmmgoood.
Everything was up to date. The only thing different I would've did was fold the bottoms so no insects or animals would get in the bottom. Pop rivet will definitely solve the issue. I'm the best j channel man out of pa so hit me for comments or better solutions when it comes to siding
Any tips? Lol
Just buy the foam inserts, takes 2 seconds rather than 3 minutes, or just get good at roughing them in, the time it takes you to snap those lines is too long, would have already had the corner on and straight by then
It's just as quick to snap lines. Less correcting in my opinion. But I don't always snap. This video is to teach people how to get it square
Try using a square , with all your vast experience why don’t you all ready know what the measurement is?
Already*
He said HE knows it but he's trying to teach people who've never done it, so he's giving a thorough tutorial. Don't have to be a dick about it.
By the time you got done doing all of that you could have it on.
I need a video in your idiot proof language( joe proof) on stair stringers. I have a.d.d on those.
Hey buddy there's a much faster way to do that. Since you always do your boxing first you will have scrap metal by the time your ready to hang siding. So take a scrap piece of metal and bend a L shape to width of your corner. Use that same piece to mark all your corners on the house. Also should only nail 2 top nails in all the way then nail the rest of them leaving nail head roughly 1/16 -1/8 sticking out so siding can expand and contract with temps
Stop using garbage like vinyl siding unless you're working on a trailer.
It's not garbage dude. The old shit was. But a decent panel can look good and function for 25 years. My mom's siding isn't even the good shit, it's 19 years old and still power washes brand new. This is the affordable stuff for the majority of the midwest and a thicker panel like .044 or .046 is way different than trash you're thinking of
@@NWIVeteranConstruction: Wow!!! 25 years??? Looking and lasting just like a trailer like I said. Meanwhile the house my great-great-grandfather built in 1859 still has all the original clapboards in perfect shape like every other old house around here.
@@skipads5141 hey bro, not every house is built like that. And people can only afford what they can afford. Each area is different
Your hammer is too big for you. You lack real precision with it. I was impressed with the hammer flip though. Everyone knows thats the mark of a true pro.
Take too much time
Lol
Wrong I'm glad you don;t work for me !!!
Lmaooo
I'm glad you don't learn from me. You must think you have the best way to do everything. You'll stagnate and young guys who are open minded will prove better than you
@@NWIVeteranConstruction been doing siding for more then 35 years bud.. first thing you should do is installed the soffit first easier that way. I measure from the corner out then use a 6 foot level to mark then .just follow the plumb line..
dont nail it home dummy
Always nail a corner home dumb dumb. That's the right way
You float siding not Jay, corners or UT
Expand and contract
@@DuStY_rZz653 look at any corner post or Jay channel video. You do not float your nails the same as your siding. It would actually block the siding from going into the corners. I didn't slam the ever living daylights out of these nails. They're just sunk in all the way.
Kurt Shampine always nail the corner Home what is this your first day?
terribleadvice noonedo this simply put your leve on both way before sare from out end and install with level done no mapping.....
Yea no one do this way which is one of many. Listen to the guy that can't type
emcee equals DuB is this even English?
I'd rather snap lines that use a level
@@NWIVeteranConstruction sorry must of had a few drinks in me when i typed that out....what i was trying to say is i use a level on one side of my corner for a bout 4 feet and just put 2 nails in then i let the product decide square .... you are relying on the house corner to be square and here i get into 100 year old house + commonly....chalk lines are nice just time is all