I wish I could show my dad this video. He taught me about camouflage and concealment when I was like 6 years old. He showed me how to take things from your surroundings and vanish. You could be within a meter of him and you'd never see him. Earth tones, OD, ranger green, coyote tan, kaki. It's the techniques we implement that concealment us. The color of your kit and clothing just add depth. Another thing he showed me was how to disguise the human profile by leaning your head down against the ground, have your exposed arm draped behind you, legs are crossed. You become a bump among hundreds of natural bumps. Camouflage and concealment is an art
@SurvivalScout2024 absolutely. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your channel. You're motivating and teaching thousands of Canadians, bro. What you're doing will have long lasting effects on these people. Are country is in a perilous phase. Anything could pop off so we have to stay ready. Hey, have you ever seen the Rhodesian battle jacket in CADPAT? I think you'd dig it. They're like $100 online. I modified mine to hold 8 AK magazines. In minecraft.
Yes the amount of money spent on uniforms is sky high but much needed gear for sure . Thanks for showing us many different patterns and ways of wearing gear .. Recently i was given a Gorka 4 suit and i will do a video with it soon They are a good suit for the brush .. I am trying to keep up ....atb and God bless you brother always
When I was a reservist in the Canadian Army about 45 years ago, all we wore were olive-green combat shirts, pants, coats and parkas. I left the reserves long before CAPDAT TW (Temperate Wear) became a thing. However, I have seen pictures of soldiers wearing CADPAT TW in heavy deciduous or boreal (i.e. coniferous) vegetation, and they were hard, if not impossible to see. The new MT pattern doesn't seem to work quite as well, except in grassland and prairie regions like southern Alberta, Saskatchewan, and to a lesser extent southern Manitoba. Although in the early-to-mid spring when the dead vegetation left behind from the winter has a slight yellow, tan and light brown look, MT can work somewhat well. The same holds true in the late fall after the leaves have fallen, or even when the leaves are in full colour. The problem is that once you are out in the open, no camouflage pattern works, because your silhouette is so easy to see against whatever is in the background. Apart from avoiding IR detection, the main goal of most camouflage uniforms is to provide camouflage, cover, and concealment. One reason why the Israelis don't have tan-coloured combat clothing is because they mainly operate in desert areas where there are few spots where you can use the terrain as cover and blend in. And Austria likely retain an olive-green solid pattern because most of the foliage and vegetation is what's typically found in boreal forests, and so long as the uniform is green, that's all that matters. It is interesting to see, as you point out, that so many countries have tried to develop digital camo uniforms over the last 30 years and haven't found one that reliably works in most environments. The US modified the Canadian CADPAT pattern (see MARPAT) and are now working on switching over to Multicam (or something else). The US Navy use a camo pattern not because of the environment they work in, but to hide or minimize dirt and grease stains that sailors pick up when doing their mechanical and maintenance work while aboard ship. Canada got around this problem by creating a new Naval Combat Dress (NCD) system that uses dark navy blue fabric.
I coosed always the brownish/khaki color types, because you'll find these colors all year round. The ground, even in forests is mostly brown, and if you want to get camouflaged, you're probably going to kneel or lay down. The other reason, why I choose those colors is, than anything green in the field are living plants. So you're able to rip off some grass or leaves and weave it trough the Molle stuff. The other way around it's not always that easy, because anything brown out there is mostly dead plants or earth. Both of this is harder to weave into your gear, because it's more brittal normally. So brown as a base and if needed natural camouflage is my way to go and works in every location, all the year (except complete coverage with snow). But I like your video and thought the same. In Ukraine you can also see, that it is more important to differentiate between the participants (Atacs, MM14, multicam, looks all the same after 30m) which is why they use the colored tapes. With solid colors it would probably a bit more easy to tell friend from foe apart; but this is just an assumption
@@smik1827 I like your thinking and using brown as a base is smart when using natural foliage. Using this concept to an extent, tomorrow I’m going to run Multicam BDU with my green CADPAT gear. It should produce a similar effect with attaching foliage. Great comment! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!!
Very good video with sentiments I certainly share. Solid Grey's, OD/Ranger Green and Khaki, can also be very versatile when used together: OD Top with Grey Trousers, Khaki with Green. That alone can create its own MACRO pattern for specific environments.
You're likely correct where military costs are excessive. Battlefield technology - thermal and drones are becoming common place rendering 'camouflage' less and less effective. Thermal cloaking tarps and techniques, anti-drone systems will become the emphasis rather than next generation BDUs.
CADPAT MT would be great this time of year…indeed. Trouble is getting your hands on some. I imagine, Emersongear, IDOGEAR, or Krydex…Chinese manufacturers will get it on the market. Their kit is pretty good.
I personally think that will not gonna happen except some incredible hard economy crisis hit the West. In Ukraine army in one moment got coyote brown uniforms because old stocks fade away and the new patterns was bad… but when they get the funds they made a new pattern. But I think that some units will dropped camouflage. In my Serbia gendarmerie dropped old camp and got a green uniforms with a new cut that blends well everywhere. I think that green and coyote brown or dark khaki will be a colors of choice
I wouldn't be a fan of 'solid color' uniforms but perhaps two selections of either God's Plaid or 3 Color Desert for US troops depending on what theater they're in. Without the IR material/coatings or tight digital 'anti-satellite' patterns - it would seem cost savings could be achieved. Good topic!
You make some valid points, but I think you're off with the conclusions. Most countries in the world actually don't even maintain any independent expeditionary capabilities and their military forces are primarily focused on national defense, so there is no need to simplify gear to fit a wide range of environments. They can instead focus on having the best possible camouflage for their home territory, which tends to be in just one climate zone. Countries like the US that both have extensive expeditionary capabilities and span multiple climates and vegetation zones are actually pretty rare. Most nations also don't swap their pattern that frequently and if you already have an established one the costs aren't significantly different from solid colour uniforms. German Flecktarn has been going strong for 34 years now and is still not going to get a general replacement any time soon. Also for expeditionary deployments you basically need different sets of uniforms anyway if it's a different climate zone to account for changes in temperature and give the troops a lighter or heavier, warmer set of clothing, irrespective of pattern. And don't underestimate the importance put on image and marketing. You touched on this with the psychological factor, but I think most militaries actually prefer having a more aggressive look and especially establish sort of a unique brand for their forces. Foreign peacekeeping deployments aren't necessarily the standard and it's just been established that camo patterns are part of a modern military look, so I doubt armies would want to drop their snazzy patterns altogether. At this point multicam and derivatives are almost a unifying identifier for NATO forces. Even Austria you mentioned actually introduced a new camouflage uniform recently that is going to slowly replace the old olive drab uniforms that are being phased out. The new camo is actually in my opinion not even that great for their environment, but it's another supposed multi-terrain pattern and it looks modern and is great for giving the army a new brand and image. So I think despite some inherent drawbacks, camouflage patterns are not going away any time soon. There will be a focus on added IR and thermal camouflaging for sure, but it'll be added on top of visual camouflage concerns and not fully replace them in my opinion.
Always blew my mind how much money USAF wasted developing and fielding ABU, only to trash-can it after several years. Why? No one on a flight line or in a hangar (or a med clinic, or a payroll office) needs camouflage. We wore Vietnam-era OD green in the early 80s, and command should have stayed with that.
I wish I could show my dad this video. He taught me about camouflage and concealment when I was like 6 years old. He showed me how to take things from your surroundings and vanish. You could be within a meter of him and you'd never see him. Earth tones, OD, ranger green, coyote tan, kaki. It's the techniques we implement that concealment us. The color of your kit and clothing just add depth. Another thing he showed me was how to disguise the human profile by leaning your head down against the ground, have your exposed arm draped behind you, legs are crossed. You become a bump among hundreds of natural bumps. Camouflage and concealment is an art
@@davidoftheforest What a great dad! Thanks brother for sharing that!
@SurvivalScout2024 absolutely. I really appreciate the time and effort you put into your channel. You're motivating and teaching thousands of Canadians, bro. What you're doing will have long lasting effects on these people. Are country is in a perilous phase. Anything could pop off so we have to stay ready. Hey, have you ever seen the Rhodesian battle jacket in CADPAT? I think you'd dig it. They're like $100 online. I modified mine to hold 8 AK magazines. In minecraft.
@@davidoftheforest I haven’t looked into any other kit, only because I have a CADPAT combat mesh vest and it is slick for summer recon
Your videos just keep getting better. Thanks for creating great content!
Thank you!
Yes the amount of money spent on uniforms is sky high but much needed gear for sure .
Thanks for showing us many different patterns and ways of wearing gear ..
Recently i was given a Gorka 4 suit and i will do a video with it soon
They are a good suit for the brush ..
I am trying to keep up ....atb and God bless you brother always
@@derealovesurvival7549 Gorka 4 suit is sweet! That’s awesome brother! God bless you too!
When I was a reservist in the Canadian Army about 45 years ago, all we wore were olive-green combat shirts, pants, coats and parkas. I left the reserves long before CAPDAT TW (Temperate Wear) became a thing. However, I have seen pictures of soldiers wearing CADPAT TW in heavy deciduous or boreal (i.e. coniferous) vegetation, and they were hard, if not impossible to see.
The new MT pattern doesn't seem to work quite as well, except in grassland and prairie regions like southern Alberta, Saskatchewan, and to a lesser extent southern Manitoba. Although in the early-to-mid spring when the dead vegetation left behind from the winter has a slight yellow, tan and light brown look, MT can work somewhat well. The same holds true in the late fall after the leaves have fallen, or even when the leaves are in full colour.
The problem is that once you are out in the open, no camouflage pattern works, because your silhouette is so easy to see against whatever is in the background.
Apart from avoiding IR detection, the main goal of most camouflage uniforms is to provide camouflage, cover, and concealment.
One reason why the Israelis don't have tan-coloured combat clothing is because they mainly operate in desert areas where there are few spots where you can use the terrain as cover and blend in. And Austria likely retain an olive-green solid pattern because most of the foliage and vegetation is what's typically found in boreal forests, and so long as the uniform is green, that's all that matters.
It is interesting to see, as you point out, that so many countries have tried to develop digital camo uniforms over the last 30 years and haven't found one that reliably works in most environments. The US modified the Canadian CADPAT pattern (see MARPAT) and are now working on switching over to Multicam (or something else). The US Navy use a camo pattern not because of the environment they work in, but to hide or minimize dirt and grease stains that sailors pick up when doing their mechanical and maintenance work while aboard ship. Canada got around this problem by creating a new Naval Combat Dress (NCD) system that uses dark navy blue fabric.
@@stevestruthers6180 Great comment! Enjoyed reading it brother! Thanks!
I coosed always the brownish/khaki color types, because you'll find these colors all year round. The ground, even in forests is mostly brown, and if you want to get camouflaged, you're probably going to kneel or lay down.
The other reason, why I choose those colors is, than anything green in the field are living plants. So you're able to rip off some grass or leaves and weave it trough the Molle stuff. The other way around it's not always that easy, because anything brown out there is mostly dead plants or earth. Both of this is harder to weave into your gear, because it's more brittal normally.
So brown as a base and if needed natural camouflage is my way to go and works in every location, all the year (except complete coverage with snow).
But I like your video and thought the same.
In Ukraine you can also see, that it is more important to differentiate between the participants (Atacs, MM14, multicam, looks all the same after 30m) which is why they use the colored tapes.
With solid colors it would probably a bit more easy to tell friend from foe apart; but this is just an assumption
@@smik1827 I like your thinking and using brown as a base is smart when using natural foliage. Using this concept to an extent, tomorrow I’m going to run Multicam BDU with my green CADPAT gear. It should produce a similar effect with attaching foliage. Great comment! Thanks for sharing your thoughts!!
Camo has for years been an MIC favourite money spinner. Yet Austria and Israel avoided that trap.
Israel operates in a single region and wanted to differentiate from other patterns. How much does Austria operate in other regions?
Very good video with sentiments I certainly share. Solid Grey's, OD/Ranger Green and Khaki, can also be very versatile when used together: OD Top with Grey Trousers, Khaki with Green. That alone can create its own MACRO pattern for specific environments.
@@DriveByShouting Yes, excellent point!
You're likely correct where military costs are excessive. Battlefield technology - thermal and drones are becoming common place rendering 'camouflage' less and less effective. Thermal cloaking tarps and techniques, anti-drone systems will become the emphasis rather than next generation BDUs.
Great comment! Thanks!
Thermocameras becoming more and more common negates the effect of camo. No matter what camo soldier is wearing he/she apears as a warm blob.
@@mattimatkalainen Yes, exactly! 👍
Thanks for your thoughts on OD Green,and another great video! Just a thought? CADPAT - MT would work great in your seasonal background of your video?
CADPAT MT would be great this time of year…indeed. Trouble is getting your hands on some. I imagine, Emersongear, IDOGEAR, or Krydex…Chinese manufacturers will get it on the market. Their kit is pretty good.
Green is the dominant color, while standing in grey and tan background
@@skipharris5764 hahahaha 😁
I personally think that will not gonna happen except some incredible hard economy crisis hit the West. In Ukraine army in one moment got coyote brown uniforms because old stocks fade away and the new patterns was bad… but when they get the funds they made a new pattern.
But I think that some units will dropped camouflage. In my Serbia gendarmerie dropped old camp and got a green uniforms with a new cut that blends well everywhere. I think that green and coyote brown or dark khaki will be a colors of choice
I wouldn't be a fan of 'solid color' uniforms but perhaps two selections of either God's Plaid or 3 Color Desert for US troops depending on what theater they're in. Without the IR material/coatings or tight digital 'anti-satellite' patterns - it would seem cost savings could be achieved. Good topic!
Glad you enjoyed the subject! Awesome!
You make some valid points, but I think you're off with the conclusions.
Most countries in the world actually don't even maintain any independent expeditionary capabilities and their military forces are primarily focused on national defense, so there is no need to simplify gear to fit a wide range of environments. They can instead focus on having the best possible camouflage for their home territory, which tends to be in just one climate zone. Countries like the US that both have extensive expeditionary capabilities and span multiple climates and vegetation zones are actually pretty rare. Most nations also don't swap their pattern that frequently and if you already have an established one the costs aren't significantly different from solid colour uniforms. German Flecktarn has been going strong for 34 years now and is still not going to get a general replacement any time soon.
Also for expeditionary deployments you basically need different sets of uniforms anyway if it's a different climate zone to account for changes in temperature and give the troops a lighter or heavier, warmer set of clothing, irrespective of pattern.
And don't underestimate the importance put on image and marketing. You touched on this with the psychological factor, but I think most militaries actually prefer having a more aggressive look and especially establish sort of a unique brand for their forces. Foreign peacekeeping deployments aren't necessarily the standard and it's just been established that camo patterns are part of a modern military look, so I doubt armies would want to drop their snazzy patterns altogether. At this point multicam and derivatives are almost a unifying identifier for NATO forces.
Even Austria you mentioned actually introduced a new camouflage uniform recently that is going to slowly replace the old olive drab uniforms that are being phased out. The new camo is actually in my opinion not even that great for their environment, but it's another supposed multi-terrain pattern and it looks modern and is great for giving the army a new brand and image.
So I think despite some inherent drawbacks, camouflage patterns are not going away any time soon. There will be a focus on added IR and thermal camouflaging for sure, but it'll be added on top of visual camouflage concerns and not fully replace them in my opinion.
@@porter-831 Thanks for sharing a great in depth analysis! Much appreciated my friend!
Do you still have aor2? What didn't you like about it?
@@Halvdan11 I still have my AOR2…I should where it with my CADPAT 😁
for being so old and washed multiple times, my alpenflage/taz 83 can still defeat IR cameras. those deers wearing night vision better watch out 😊
Hahaha Nice! Thats awesome!
the czech rain camo shows a different pattern when viewed under IR, it's excellent 👍
Always blew my mind how much money USAF wasted developing and fielding ABU, only to trash-can it after several years. Why? No one on a flight line or in a hangar (or a med clinic, or a payroll office) needs camouflage. We wore Vietnam-era OD green in the early 80s, and command should have stayed with that.
ABU dyed apple green is amazing
Israel uses green uniforms.
Thanks for the info!
My B.D.U's are still the best.
Right on!