Konnan REACTS to Tony Khan burying Eric Bischoff
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AEW doesn't use rankings anymore. They stopped using them back on August 31st.
@@Booth55555 so no more rankings so does things go more sport entertainment
Well if you seen rampage you'll see swerve got his idea of nail clipping
@@Booth55555 good, it was a really bad idea.
@@KeepinIt100OFFICIAL So bad that the WWE was considering using it too.
"AEW is for Nerds Bro" - Konnan
I'd pay money for someone to bring that sign to Raw or Smackdown lol
Bringing it to AEW would work also 😅
oh, that's why Konnan appeared on AEW TV
It also needs to be played over the PA. Priceless delivery. I died, and I’m a nerd, but sadly AEW is not for me.
Would work way better at Dynamite.
It's so true. Wrestler A from Japan is facing wrestler B from the indies and it has no story build but it's a "dream match" because they were supposed to meet in 2003 for the IWGP title blablablabalbla. It's a promotion that is for nerds and fantasy bookers.
Here's the difference TK: when Eric Bischoff was just booking random matches? he had 5-6 million people watching. WCW had stars. AEW has people popular with marks. HUGE difference.
Facts
Very true
Internet wasn't very prominent back then and tv was. You cant compare the 2 generations.
@@CoachDaGoat so then why does Tony Khan do it then? Erick was booking known stars that way, Tony is booking nobody's.
Bischoff wasn’t booking. He was smart enough to delegate that to guys with experience like Kevin Sullivan.
Those Nitro matches had a competent booking rotation that showcased dozens of talents.
Lmfao same shit each show...
@@noneofuourbusiness and still beat wwe in the ratings
@@noneofuourbusiness It wasn't though.
@@al5306 it was
@@al5306 There was maybe 1 good match per Nitro after 1997, sometimes you would get 2 solid matches.
I love how much Eric is in his head
it's because Bischoff is one of the very few people that's willing to call Tony out in public.
he must be roommates with cornette.
REnt Free
Tony wouldnt come at Cornette he’ll get eaten alive 😂😭
@@allforgreatness9883
Cornette is a wordsmith
When Konnan said: “Hey what’s up I’ll see u on Friday rampage yeah I’ll see u there too” probably the most accurate booking since this damn company even started 🤣🤦🏽♂️
LAAAAAAAAZZZY booking
Then aew marks will be like clearly you don't watch the show if you think there's no stories. And that's the story lol
@@SwagAli I had one tell me that it's actually okay that we don't see guys like Hook on a semi-regular basis even though he's a far more interesting act than the same regulars who do the same shit over and over again.
Whole generation of kids who grew up watching indie wrestling because the WWE was unwatchable for like 20 years, so they don't *understand* weekly story-telling. Their idea of storytelling is trying to follow a story through eleven tiny promotions in four countries over 3 years because the guys doing the "angle" work once a month in bingo halls.
Bischoff had more of an impact on the business in a three year period than Tony has had.
Fact
he also was already working for wcw
@@CoachDaGoat and TK literally owns his company and has no restrictions at all.
@@davidjsaul He needs to hire someone to do the booking (what Vince did in WWE) and talent relations (what J.R. did in WWF/E) cause Tony is failing at being a CEO of AEW with this Punk/Elite backstage chaos bc he's wearing too many dang hats. LISTEN TO BISCHOFF, hell hire Bischoff as your GM of Rampage or Dynamite, get Regal in as AEW Talent Relations GM so ppl don't knock out other ppl in the backstage area after live interviews lmao
Ok, and he also blew millions and was a factor to the end of a promotion. Tony’s been in the business for 3 years. Calm down.
The fact that Tiny thinks WCW's matches were "random" illustrates his failure to understand the concept.
It's baffling, how a guy with zero experience in the wrestling business. Can take so much offense, with constructive criticism. Tony, you have zero true knowledge of the pro wrestling business. Now is the time to learn. His ego, gets in the way of his companies growth
The same way he continuously claims to be a billionaire when he is not. His father is a billionaire.
Toni is the definition of an asshole who woke up on third base and acts like he had a triple
It's not just ego. It's his entitlement. I bet when he was growing whatever friends he might have had anytime there was a disagreement khan would always win and be right cause he is a spoiled little rich bitch
Its because his idol dave meltzer named him booker of the year off the bat and he was able to get a 40 million dollar tv deal on major tv when know one else had in 20 years.
In his mind his success probably made him think why do i need to listen to guys like bischoff when i accomplished all this with no experience
That's what happens when you and your dad can just buy your way into the 2nd biggest wrestling promotion in the world! You didn't build AEW! AEW was the 2nd biggest budget before it ever held a match!
@@rmtsdelight3773 and he blew that budget x 3 just on talent/commentators/producers/trainers/evp assistants. Not including office staff for aew. 44mil (money from warner) blown and doesn't even cover the wrestlers.
Tk has big balls calling out people outside his company but he never saids anything about his people in his own company look at punk burying everybody in the scrum and Tony kind of sat there and said nothing and was saying sorry
He wont go at cornette either 😂
@@allforgreatness9883 I think he respects Cornette too much but he also probably knows Cornette would rip him apart verbally.
@@allforgreatness9883 Corny would verbally eviserate Tony! Even he's not dumb enough to take on Corny!
Tony a true beta male
Yeah like you would trash punk when your the boss and what...let punk say in court "theirs a biased prejudice against me by the owner of aew in my $20m lawsuit against his 3 EVP's assaulting me i'll settle out of court for 15m thank you"
There is zero chance that the AEW crowds are "cooler or hipper" when you look and compare the crowds.
It's the ones that were playing with beach balls, chanting CM Punk, and booing Reigns are the ones now at AEW shows.
It's made WWE shows a lot more family friendly
Literally everybody in the 90's was wearing nWo shirts. Nobody wears AEW shows. There were hot chick's and giant celebrities at WcW shows every week in the 90's. There's only neck beards who don't shower at AEW shows. The "demos" speak for themselves.
Couldn’t have said it better than the comments here. Look at any AEW show and the amount of neckbeards who are there. These are the same guys who hijack Raw because 5”7 150lb guys aren’t winning every belt…
@@MetlKen87 and they killed it... Wanna know why??? IT GOT OLD.... SAME AS ROCK VS HUNTER EACH WEEK GOT OLD...
@@noneofuourbusiness So? Everything gets old. It doesn't negate that while it lasted, it was the hottest act in town and everyone wanted to be a part of it.
I remember WCW fans used to say WWE fans were uncool nerds and neck beards with no hot chicks back in the 90's when WCW was popular.
Sadly, Shahid raised one who never grew emotionally or matured beyond 15. Shanna, Tony’s sister, is better looking, more philanthropic and, although she works in politics, appears to be the level headed Khan kid. Tony like to boast of the money his father earned as if Tony himself had any hand in the fortune. When a middle aged boy says, “I have more money than them”, you know he’s a dry socket. EB has an ego for days and made more than enough mistakes to last 3 lifetimes. But he was at the helm when Vincent Kennedy McMahon was beginning to sweat a bit for 83 weeks in a row. Tony will never accomplish anything close with his version of sports entertainment.
Tony litterally has all the people we grew up in wrestling shouting advice at him and he isn't listening to any of it.
Well, you see where a lot of the talent gets the idea they don't need to take advice from anyone
Konnan was dropping some *FACTS* in the beginning here. People get so lost in their subjective feelings on things and take criticism too personally. You can learn more about yourself and your craft from people that disagree than from those that agree with everything you do.
The problem with Tony is that even the “random” matches he is talking about involved some sort of overarching story either with specific character development or as a catalyst for a separate angle. The guy has no idea what he is talking about.
Also with most of the “random” matches, the action of the match is the same. Big guy, little guy, Lucha guy, they all work the same match
Tony was born with a silver spoon and isn't use to people disagreeing with him. Tony is supposed to be anti Vince McMahon yet just like Vince he makes all the creative choices lol. Vince at least surrounded himself with other knowledgeable people and would hear them out from time to time lol
exactly, in the 80s, 90s and most of the 00s Vince was always open to hear ideas and let guys run with them, he became more picky to his fashion later on, but Khan hires great wrestling minds for show and puts them in a corner when it comes to the big picture, crazy.
What makes you think Tony doesn't have knowledgeable people around him. Didn't Tony just hire Jeff Jarrett & he's got other veterans in AEW. Eric Bishoff had more better stars but WCW is dead in the Grave yard. So far to me Tony is the better CEO!
@@samuelpartin4628 JEFF JARRET???? MR.I AM GONNA GO OVER AJ STYLES??? LMFAO you are talkin out your ass..... AEW will be buried RIGHT BESIDE WCW watch and see. Noone knows how to run a wrestling company anymore. When I watch old videos of the territories I think MAN fans like me really missed OUT on some DAMN GOOD wrestling. I watch AEW, WWE, etc and I think "THIS is what it has come to?" what a shame. MAN the business should just die already.
Eric actually beat Vince 52 weeks in a row , while tony was playing his fantasy wrassling games in his basement.
10:35 Konnan is SO right, as a wrestling fan for more than 40 yrs it is not fun talking about wrestling in wrestling forums or pages, i don't know what happened. It was fun when you gather and talk other fans, even in the so called "bad" days of wwe, it wasn't toxic, but last few years it sucked big time, i don't even want to talk about wrestling anymore.
I can't wait to hear Eric's response, lol. It should be good.
Tony Khan has a problem with Eric Bischoff because Bischoff brought attention to AEW being in massive debt. That broke Tony, he's been a little brat ever since.
If the company is in the red its in the red make it green!
@@allforgreatness9883 that's impossible with the contracts Khan has made
@@mansion1719 no it isnt the video game they spent alot of their own money on is ridiculous
@@allforgreatness9883 I've heard that the budget is almost around 110 million. I'm not kidding. I heard TK put 80 million into it at the start and the budget keeps growing.
@@allforgreatness9883 Black.
Kdog is right, its for the same 800k nerds that watch every week. Not for the masses.
That's funny coming from Tony Khan saying not all matches have to have storylines leading into them or building them up. Um, hey Tony, wake the f*ck up because almost NONE of your matches have that!
I found it funny he thought Ted Turner was actually booking matches.
Eric has been million times more successful in wrestling than Tony ever has been or probably will be
khan only been in 3 years
And no company will ever burn more money in this short time than WCW.
@@CoachDaGoat yes, so he should shut his mouth.
@@laktosefrei AEW is. They're still in the red.
no cause eric booking wasnt all that great either, the nwo was saturated with anybody including himself.
People Watched television more back then vs now, its not fair to compare ratings then vs now.
IMO: Eric is looking at himself in khan trying help him not make the same mistakes he did, but calling him out his name. isnt helping lol.
Crystallizing intelligence! 🙏🏼💯🔥💯🙏🏼 Always on the money Konnan... Luv it 🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊🥊
What a scientific term for a Latino on a podcast. :)
All I've learned from this is that Tony Khan refuses to listen to any form of criticism because someone else made the same mistake about 25 years ago. What kind of logic is this?
Big props to getting rid of the ear bleeding bleep that was used for f bombs. Much much more pleasant to listen to. Now that's an example of taking criticism and making the product better
The problem ain't random matches, the problem is random world title matches
No the problem is random matches........... When I see 2 guys face off with no build, no story, or reason I don't care about it. When they build a story, give the guy REASONS to hate eachother, and it is consistently coherent and makes sense I absolutely LOVE THAT.
Disco is right. During wwe/WCW wars fans weren't toxic. As a matter of fact people routinely watched both shows
Tony has the choice, being a mark or being a professional
Disco said exactly what I've been thinking about the AEW fans. This is why I didn't like the idea of competition because I remember how catty and petty the fans were during the Monday Night Wars. The only difference is we weren't on the internet in 97-01 as heavy as we are now. 1996 was a good time though. We were all bonding saying "Suck It" and "2 Sweet" at the same time. It got toxic between fans of certain companies at the beginning of the 00s.
It been toxic since the 80s when that idiot vince brought that trash product to Georgia known as black Saturday. WWE fans is the problem they were the problem in the 80s 90s, 00s, and now.
Uhhhhhhh SUCK IT didn't come around till around mid to late 97. Stop lying.
ECW fans were like snobs though. They acted like they were in a special club for liking that much smaller branch of wrestling.
Tony Khan is just in mark tears because Eric Bischoff has the guts to call him out. Konnan protects Tony Khan way too much, he makes himself look bad from protecting TK the way he does.
YET if you ask almost every AEW fan, they will tell you every match has a story and that's why it's so great.. yet, here's Khan saying it doesn't and it doesnt need to be, also he said it years ago, that matches should, but now that he's seeing that it's hard and almost impossible, he's backtracking to cover himself and talk crap.
I can't remember if TK or one of the EVPs admitted they put everyone in a faction/group because they found it really hard to write for guys who are on their own.....you shouldn't be writing nor booking if that's the case 🙄🤦♂😮💨
@@Gravey_draws Good point! And they probably do it to give as many people TV time as possible so their feelings don't get hurt.
If you asked him I’m genuinely convinced TK would say he knows more about the business and how to book than Kevin Sullivan and Eric… he’s deluded
I bet you if you ask TK this question he said he know the business more than Paul Heyman
@@georgebrice8329 💯 he’s genuinely been told he’s great his whole life and this just proves it
@@georgebrice8329 supposedly people tell tony he reminds them of Paul Heyman. I sure as hell can't see it. Ecw made money a few years on a tv network that wasn't in alot of households and at odd times back when tv networks didn't pay for wrestling to be on tv.
@@bigdaddyroy5382 they have to be telling him that purely to inflate his ego 😂 TK is more like that kid who won the lottery and starter Wrestleicious with Jimmy Hart 😂
@@karlm641 sad thing, his dad only made matters worse. His dad gave tony and his sister their inheritance while he is still alive. I mean the theory is good (he wants to see his kids enjoy the money) but it's made a spoiled bitch rich kid even more rich and entitled. Tony loves to brag about having more money then vince and or hunter which is true but wwe keeps making money tony is losing it by the 10s of millions quarterly
T.K. is the real life representation of Kyle's cousin from South Park. I'm looking forward to the Punk promo saying, "Tony Khan surrounds himself with B.S. yes men who tell him everything he wants to hear".....oh wait.
I'll take Bischoff over Kahn anyway,Bischoff was great in every wrestling company he went to.
He ALWAYS added greatness.
Everyone wanted to slap the shit out of Eric when he showed up on TV. People point and laugh at Tony.
@@budwyzer77 I mean of course they did he created the controversy between WCW and WWE and he tried to put them out of business.
Yea everyone wanted to slap him but no one touched him. Vince loved him and hugged him on national TV,and if you watch the MNW documentaries Vince gave him hella props. 👌🏾
@@austin31697 I was complimenting Eric for being a terrific on-screen heel. I hated that smarmy prick when I was a kid.
Tony inspires ridicule rather than hatred. It's impossible to take him seriously on any level.
@@budwyzer77 aw ok then,my apologies I must've read that wrong.
The NWA produces more coherent program with a fraction of the money and talent than AEW does. And I suspect that's down to the fact that Billy Corgan listens to people and doesn't waste his time kicking off over every little thing.
I remember Vince McMahon saying one time that a wrestling match without a story is just two guys doing moves in a ring and nobody wants to see that. There needs to be a reason for it
RAW, even at its absolute worst is still doing higher numbers than Dynamite, even when it was at its supposed best. Tony Khan has a lot to learn.
There's no logic in having a 13 minute cold match where the only goal is to put on a good match, that's a waste of time
depends what do you mean by a good match? it's just 13 minutes of cirque du soleil. that's not a good wrestling match.
@@creel999 that's what the company and some marks think a good match is though
Funny how Eric is the only guy that TK has no problem attacking
Tony Khan is no better than the audience who watches his shows. He may be in his 40s but mentally he's still that little 8 year old playing with his action figures in his room.
Tony realizes he's running a wrestling show on Turner network...created by a guy with the last name Rhodes.
Just want to say that a totally appreciate the blanks spots as opposed to beeps for censoring. So much better to listen to
Tony Khan is going to have to learn how to take criticism and advice from guys like Eric bashoff and Jim cornette who's been in the business of very long time and it is trying to give you criticism on how to get your show better
Jim cornette just hate people with money is beyond wrestling with him
@@tshilidzinemukongwe5098 Total bullshit. Cornette always gives props to Tony when it's deserved. Cornette is the. Sharpest pro wrestling mind alive.
Tony's appearance in 2019 vs. 2022 is the "how it started/how its going" meme in real life.
Well, Tony does get criticized constantly by quite literally everyone. That includes not just us fans, but damn near every big name in the business that has a podcast. So it makes sense that he's feeling attacked left and right, but it is a shame because most of us are indeed just trying to help. Everyone can see the ways in which it could be much better, but Tony seems to have no desire to improve the product in any way. As a result, the company isn't growing. It hasn't grown at all since Dynamite started in late 2019, and that's definitely not good. They've at least maintained the audience they have, but I have to wonder how long that will last.
Other then MJF vs Punk i can't remember a memorable feud in AEW . They just have matches. And when they bring in these guys from Japan or Mexico and give them title matches how about a little information about who they even are. Maybe a little promo showing what they've done and where they did it.
Do vignettes like WWE used to do cause OUTSIDE of MJF and CM Punk I COULDN'T CARE FRIGGEN LESS about these ppl. Jungle Boy starts getting heat and they hide him away. ANYONE outside of the Elite that start getting over either gets buried with silly shit or get 0 T.V. time.
That was the best thing they did, imo.
The build-up to Moxley/Kingston was really good too but I legit can't remember the match, just the promos.
loving billi free uploads. keep it up hughezy!
Stop making excuses or having sympathy for Tony, Konnan. Tony is the worst promoter of all time hooked up on cocaine who needs to take criticism and change for the better. He has no idea what he is doing. Every bad thing to come out of AEW is Tony's fault
you may not need a story for every match, but AEW rarely uses stories anymore and the product is suffering huge because of it
a 17 minute k100 video...what a great day
Tony isn't wrong. There was a lot of "blitzkrieg vs. Silver king", "el dandy vs la parka", and "Villano 4+5 vs random team"
Konnan just said what I have been saying for two years. Many people have an *emotional investment* in Tony Khan, as the white knight who is 'one of us' and can run a wrestling promotion the way 'we' want it, because that's what 'he wants'. By the same token, Tony has a huge emotional investment in being a part of, and being loved by, the wrestling community and (I'm speculating but it seems evident) that he wants to be that white knight for all of 'us'.
The one thing that people can never forgive is when others don't live up to their expectations, and now that there are the inevitable problems of running a business where lots of people with big egos are involved, and the expectations are not being fulfilled on both sides, that's what we're seeing today. That's one of the reasons I think Tony lashes out at criticism. I get it - I do it myself. "Don't you people see how much I'm doing for you?", and it hurts because you're trying so hard but not everyone is happy.
It's fine to have matches with no build occasionally but the problem is that's the majority of AEW's show.
Why does Tony Khan keep going on the exact same shows to promote AEW? Doesn't he notice that ticket sales and ratings are down? Shouldn't he be trying to do something new to bring in new fans?
I can't believe that WCW is still relevant to this day, that's how you know how special that company was...
Tony might learn from failure, but I am not optimistic.
This wrestling war with fans is similar to what's going on in politics.... what is happening to America
And Joe and Disco wonder why there's so much hate for Khan in the mail bag.
just wanna say that i love konnans nuanced, intelligent argumentation
Well at least WCW Nitro did beat Raw in the ratings and became the most dominant show at the time unlike AEW Dynamite with their embarrassing ratings every week
How is it embarrassing if the show consistently ranks in the top 5 shows on cable ratings wise? The 90s was a simpler time. We didn't have a huge online gaming infrastructure with a huge gaming community, social media, a dozens of streaming services, and people didn't spend multiple hours of he day staring at their phones. The two generations aren't comparable.
@@SuperHyphyOne NO it's embarrassing dude.... All this other mumbo jumbo u spouted of means nothing. RATINGS are very important and they can't get ANY new fans because the BLOOOOWWWW. And being top 5 on cable ratings TODAY is like being the most handsome burn victim at the clinic..... Everyone I have asked if they know what AEW is says "What's that?" It ain't the gaming community, it ain't social media, it ain't cell phones it is noone even KNOW AEW EXIST outside of the internet crowd.
@@coreyhall1150 you contradict yourself in your statement. If ratings mean everything as you say, then why is being in the top 5 on cable "like being the most handsome burn victim at the clinic."? If they aren't #1 on cable for the night, since when does being #2-5 equate to embarrassment when they beat out dozens of other shows in the same time slot?Obviously there is a different metric at play if the number 2 or 3 show for any given time slot only pulls in around 900k or so live viewers. I've already stated why that might be the reason. Hell, even TV executives and other actual entertainment insiders say the same thing. There is more to do out there in the world. There are more options for entertainment and pass times. People can watch pretty much whatever they want on demand as inn there isn't a need to be at home in front of the TV as the show is being broadcasted live. Just because some mark like you asks a bunch of nobodys who don't know jack shit about anything doesn't mean the rest of the world is as retarded as they are. Your biased opinion doesn't equal fact. The fact is that the network has so far been happy with AEW's ratings because I'm sure that somewhere in their TV deal, there is a clause that has something to do with being pulled from the air or the deal being terminated for underperformance.
WCW had the greatest roster in the history of wrestling, yet showcased everyone either on Nitro,Thunder or Saturday Night, Luchadors had the opening matches and had major storylines like LWO ,rey jr mask,Chavo v Eddie etc etc, all midcard had a spot,and the storylines for the major feuds lasted months...in comparison with AEW ,wheres Christian? wheres big show? i can't name 1 feud that had months of build up,normally it's 2 weeks max,why should fans invest?
AEW also have way to many belts and not making any new stars to challenge for them
Those cold matches in WCW didnt have botches every other move too. The shit looked good, not this sub indy level shit.
You can tell when Vince disagrees with something. He's just like "yeah........... yeah...............yeah..."
Bischoff leaned wrestling by working in the AWA and WCW before taking over WCW, TK learned wrestling by watching it. He doesn't know what he doesn't know
Everyone is a nerd it’s 2022.
Main audiences are born in the 80”s 70”s 90”s 200”s
I would not be surprised if tony Kahn pees sitting down like a girl
The flaw in Tony Khan's analysis is that the only reason those "story free" WCW or ECW matches held the audience's attention was that they were novel and unique (recall there was limited internet, no youtube, and TV controlled what audiences saw). But the long and seemingly random matches AEW puts on just can't have the same impact on the audience. Every promotion has *exhausted* "high flying", "strong style", or "hardcore" matches. A kid can go down a UA-cam wrestling "rabbit hole" one night and come out of it with a jaded "I've seen it all" attitude. The reason Jim Cornette has the power and influence he does is because the audience is bored - and keeping themselves awake by noticing flaws in the moves or promo's. In Tony's defense...writing stories is extremely difficult. Finding good writers is extremely difficult. I can understand why he "micro-manages" or fills time with random matches. What I hope is that when someone truly talented at stories and characters comes to him (me), he is open-minded enough to shift gears.
Some rich people believe nobody can judge them because having a lot of money means your smarter & better then others rather then being rich
Konnan’s take at the beginning of this is spot on. U shouldn’t take shots tony. What u need to do is call someone like Eric and get knowledge. A opportunity to get a mind like Regal to be ur right hand was out there but HHH saw that and now he is his right hand.
Konnan still an impact guy love the impact love.
AEW fans behave like scientologists.
And WWE fans "trolling" AEW to me and from what I've seen is people pointing out that AEW is no different than WWE, and the only reason why people are praising it is because it isn't WWE (in name at least).
A lot of people hate Excalibre but I appreciate his indy knowledge on people when he actually shares it.
Bischoff worked his way up from being a syndicator/spot show promoter/announcer for the AWA to being on top the wrestling world with WCW in the mid 90's. Khan is a spoiled rich kid who still hasn't come close to beating WWE.
I think Bischoff is brilliant and I think Khan is very entertaining, but Eric has put Tony on a skewer and scorched him a few times now. Khan calling Bischoff a hypocrite isn't as bad as Bischoff saying he doesn't respect Tony, insinuating he's gay, calling him a bitch etc.
Tony has brought all that on himself by continually throwing shade at Eric/WcW/Ted Turner. Why the hell should Eric respect him? Give me one reason why anybody should respect Tony? What the hell has he ever done besides hitting the genetic lottery and being the son of a billionaire?
Nobody wants to talk about how Eric Bischoff completely fumbled a pretty good TNA product🤷🤷🤷🤷
10:25 Konnan said exactly what I’ve been saying for a while. Wrestling is for everyone
The other big issue Tony has is he doesn't listen to 83 Weeks. Because while Tony says Eric put on randam Lucha matches for several years in WCW and they were successful, why can't I. Because Eric brings up in retrospect that was a mistake because it wasn't until the curiserweights had been around for almost two years before they started doing storylines which by that point certain performers who were key to those lucha matches were getting frustrated because they felt they weren't being used properly. The other issue was because there was no real character development if those characters by the time they startrd to develop those characters WWE had taken control of the ratings so here they were trying to create new characters when they should've been trying to it from the start. It would be the same thing if Tony said WCW had Thunder why can't we have Rampage, because Eric says Thunder was biggest mistake he made for WCW because it caused more problems and he knew it would be a bad idea he just chose to please Ted Turner instead of listening to everyone including himself. The best advice I would give to Tony is just listen to something like 83 Weeks because there are plenty of times Eric says I didn't do this which hurt us in the long run or I wished I said no to this decision because it would saved so much time and effort and caused few headaches.
Sick of hearing that i have an issue if i dont like AEW. The show is like 85% fucking suck. I wish it was good so i could watch a whole wrestling show again
If AEW ever becomes #1 over WWE, even for a second, Tony Khan might have a right to go at Bischoff. Otherwise, nope.
Konnan dropping knowledge Tony needs to listen
Konnan you’re right, Tony Khan isn’t like other promoters, he’s a smart who doesn’t know how to build talent
Is it even AEW or ROH?
I love the portrait of this one.
TK : Rrrraghhhh
Konnan : Oh, Not again. 😑
Eric Bischoff : Leave him be Konnan.
Easily imagine if Herb Abrams resurrected and working together with Tony Khan 😄
The difference between WWE and AEW is one company is owned by a promoter. And one is owned by a Money Mark.
Disco calling out toxicity is HILARIOUS.... Tony Khan was right. Bischoff booked random matches just as much in those 83 Weeks he still lives in in his head. I was there, I was watching.
Also Eddie Kingston's story is that he's beating people up AFTER matches and has had a win reversed. It's great shit.
Tony is 100% correct. Nitro was at its best when it was filled with "random" matches. Every match needing a story is a Vince Russo invention.
Tony needs to keep his mouth shut and stay off of TV
Disco speaks the same language that John Madden did.
If someone has to google the worker during the match, they have been failed by upper mgmt
How did Konnan meet Referee "El Gran Davis" and Perro Aguayo Jr?
I remember in 1999 though when they would book Konnan and Stevie Ray week after week, and it made no sense why they were wrestling against one another. Even though they were on opposite factions of NWO, there was no explanation if the two having heat.
1) Eric Bischoff beat RAW - not NXT.
2) Bischoff didn't "kill" WCW or put it out of business. It didn't matter if the show was great or not, because Time Warner had already said that they didn't want wrestling on their networks.
3) Bischoff worked in the business before becoming the head of WCW. Tony was just a fan.
4) Bischoff created megastars that people still talk about today like DDP, Goldberg, Booker T, Sting, etc. Tony hasn't created anyone. MJF has gotten over on his own.
5) Nitro looked, and felt, professional. AEW looks amateurish.
6) Pre-1999, WCW always had something big for you to look forward to. AEW doesn't seem to be heading in any direction and don't have any big storylines or matches coming up.
Bischoff, for all the talk of him, was also teachable and took the time to learn what works and what doesn’t, and wasn’t afraid to experiment.
TK just can’t stand to be wrong. The shows are too safe, beneath all the acrobatics and drawing everything out.
And people don’t really talk enough about the thought that went into the set designs for WCW, even without all the big money flash of it. They still have some of the most memorable weekly arena designs, let alone their PPV designs. Someone backstage understood that The set is actually part of the show, and that’s not something AEW (or even really WWe today) really gets.
But Eric’s other gift was knowing when and how to cultivate that midcard talent, through all those random matchups. They show you something special, like DDP did, they get a push. And that’s always worked.
I'm the same age as Tony. I can admit that us born in 83 sometimes overestimate how much we know.
Eric Bischoff is discussing business.
Tony Khan is running his playtime hobby. His number one goal is to have fun it seems. Why does he need money? Sure, he needs the TV time. But, wb/discovery seems very happy with them. But, he ain't getting shit for ROH. They're not that happy. Ha.
Taly ho ki100 Bischoff v Khan. I'v got Bischoff.
sadly 83 Weeks was a best off this week so I'm sure next week's episode will have a great opening.
TONY IS RIGHT HERE. K100 is stretching hard to find a way to make WCW seem smarter for running "el dandy vs. Blitzkreig" as filler with no story.
Listen to all the justification and ways they are trying to make wcw seem smarter for doing the same exact shit.
Fucking marks in this clip.
The only reason I’m still watching AEW is for Sting. Once he’s retired I’ll be checking out. If they bring Punk back and get rid of the Bucks I might consider sticking with it.