Mastering Advanced Motorcycle Riding Techniques: A RAPID Rider Training Instructor's POV Commentary
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- Опубліковано 20 бер 2023
- In part 2 of this series Ryan, my expert RAPID Rider Training instructor, shares his POV commentary on mastering advanced motorcycle riding techniques. Whether you're a seasoned rider looking to enhance your skills or a beginner seeking to learn from the best, this video is packed with valuable insights and tips for taking your riding to the next level.
This is part 2 of a 3-part series covering the day with RAPID Advanced Rider Training.
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Throughout the video, the instructor provides detailed explanations of the various techniques he employs to navigate the road with confidence and control. From proper body positioning and throttle control to advanced cornering and braking strategies, this comprehensive guide is designed to help you become a safer and more skilled rider.
With stunning POV footage and expert commentary, this video is an essential resource for any motorcyclist seeking to master the art of advanced riding. So sit back, buckle up, and get ready to take your riding to new heights with RAPID Rider Training!
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"Element of doubt not going to bother." I wish more motorcyclists( and all other drivers) had this way of assessing overtakes.
Absolutely 👍
The 'Rapid Way' One of the excellent things taught, higher speed riding looking as far ahead as possible including cross hairs and using peripheral vision for near movements. It's amazing plus road positioning how much this improves your riding and allows you to build safe and confident pace
Absolutely incredible commentary from Ryan
You've got to love Rapid Training
Never seen anything like it in all my years of riding a motorbike. Ryan is fab.
Hi Bruce, I've watched a couple of your videos now and I hope you don't mind me saying this, but you can polish your positioning, as well as increasing your safety, stability, speed and progress by altering your positioning course slightly.
You have a regular tendency to over position, or hold a cornering course and position when it's of no further use to you. As soon as you can see that you're clear to exit, alter course to line up the exit point for that bend, straight to the entry point for the next one - traffic and other potential hazards allowing of course. On the way round, look to go to the exit point at the earliest opportunity and make the whole course from entry to exit, one smooth constant curve. This will give you the shortest, fastest route all the time, which gives you stability and the ability to carry speed, take the bend smoothly under drive and be exiting, aiming straight for the next entry point fast. If you over position, you'll hold onto your initial course past the point where you have view to leave, and should be moving to exit, so you're travelling longest way round now for nothing. The longer you leave it, the further you have to come back to get back to where you need to be. You end up with a course like a question mark, going round nice and smooth, then kinking back out again and straightening off onto the course exiting the bend.
You'll travel further, be slower and with less stability with the overpositioning and it feels and looks "swoopy" and not as professional as the smooth seamless looking course you can achieve with more precise positioning.
The other thing I thought watching your rides, was on overtaking and during the planning stage, make it a definite transition from the following position to the overtaking position, before committing yourself.
You tend to make a decision from the following position and make a full bore charge down the offside lane skipping the overtaking position, during which, you leave time for the situation to change and you could find yourself accelerating into danger.
Aim for smooth, gradual acceleration as you move from following to overtaking position and having cleared everything up, move from gradual, smoothly to firm acceleration to complete the overtake.
Moving from following to overtaking is the time that you clear the nearside danger and start to accelerate up, ready to move out to the offside of the road. The following, to overtaking position to overtaking should be like the cornering, one continuous, smooth manoeuvre, following, overtaking, overtake.
If its not on when you reach the overtaking position, you can roll off without having to brake and drop back to following before starting to plan again for the next opportunity.
The two positions give you time, and put you in the right place to plan fully, to create clean, safe quick overtakes.
Several of your overtakes would also have been better by delaying, literally seconds to fully clear junctions, with acres of clear road immediately after them.
Following to overtaking will help you eliminate this and decide when to execute safely.
One other thing when you are riding on Two, behind bike One - don't ride in close proximity, or, come to rest, on their offside. Bike One needs to be able to see back down the offside for safety from following traffic, for overtaking and for lifesavers when pulling away from stationery. If you ride down his offside, you are in his way, and a problem - only someone qualified to do so should ever be down the offside of Bike One.
Riding Bike Two is busy and normally you can ride in a nearside stagger position for your own, and mutual safety, positioning and view. You need to be mentally riding both bikes, and with oncoming large vehicles, or right hand bends, you need to reduce speed slightly and allow him room to move into the nearside of the lane so that you are not too close when you are directly behind him.
I hope that you'll take this in the spirit that it's intended, you ride really well and are obviously keen to learn more so I'm guessing that you will. Observation and positioning go hand in hand and getting them right allows you to improve and consistently carry that speed which makes you faster in the grand scheme of things from A to B. Have fun and stay safe - Dale
Ryan and Clive were brilliant when I did this a couple of years ago. I have since started to commute into London and this commentary reminds me that I need to be paying more attention
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Great vid Bruce. How Ryan can see that much, process it and then commentate so quickly is quite amazing. I'm sure he's had many years training to be at the top level of riding but WOW, very impressive.
Looking forward to the next episode.
Excellent commentary and top tips. "Tarmac proof shorts" also a winner.
What a rider. Watching this has made me appreciate the difference between my normal riding and when I'm getting on it. I didn't realize it was that my eyes were staying on the horizon until it was pointed out in this video. Can't wait for the next one
Phenomenal riding from Ryan. Exhausted just watching and listening. Interesting point about keeping the far vision at pace and trusting your peripheral. Another skill to practice and try to master. Like you Bruce, I constantly scan from far distance to near and maybe spend too long focusing on something I’ve already clocked way back when nothing is changing.
Mike,
Great to see you can reflect on how your user your eyes and see where this may help.
When you try it. Do short spells of focused practice, drop your pace a few % and get used to trusting that you’ve seen enough detail, early to allow time to interpret it, plan and trust your peripheral vision enough that you pick up even the smallest change. 👍🏼
Commentary certainly focuses the mind when riding. Adopting positions 1 to 3 when approaching junctions and driveways on near side and offside is definitely a winner.
Great video Bruce. Rapid Training are phenomenal, having recently finished my IAM’s training they’re the next logical step to being a better rider.
Without doubt the best commentary I’ve heard. Sets the standard for truly advanced riding. Thanks for the work that clearly went into editing all those sources. 🎉
Cheers Malcolm, glad you enjoyed it and found it useful 👍
Excellent video, amazing commentary which really demonstrates how good a rider your instructor is. Certainly inspiring me to sign up for a Rapid course…
Totally get his point on keeping your eyes on the limit point/ furthest point but our roads are in such bad condition I feel I’m constantly looking back and forth just to dodge potholes!
James,
With practice you’ll pick up the potholes in the lower part of your peripheral vision.
The standard sized enormous UK pothole, you’ll see early on.
Top tip starter for ten - keep both hands on the bars!
Great vlog Bruce, about the peripheral vison thing I was taught this by a 1975 car driving instructor he was also a biker always served me well. Top job lads
Enjoyed that Bruce, Ryan certainly is exceptional with his reading of the road ahead and surroundings. As a young man I was riding as fast and smooth as you were doing today, but as I've gotten older I have slowed considerably, but I still love getting out on my bike, it's still one of life's absolute pleasures. Thank you.
Cheers bud 👍
Excellent mini series Bruce with the added bonus of taking me back to the roads I was riding (enthusiastically but badly) in my 20s! I did a day with Rapid up by Banbury last year and it was excellent. As you point out we all develop habits, some good, some less good and taking an objective look at your riding is a very healthy practice 👍
Currently taking my advanced to ride livered Blood bikes in the North west. Great video and commentary. I will look much far ahead in future, thank you.
After watching the Two films I have started to look well forward a lot more but it is hard not look in front of the bike in the countryside roads and then back up front. Absolutely brilliant films thanks big man 👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏👏🥳
Thanks bud, aye it takes practice to develop and trust your peripheral vision to pick up the details such as road surface etc.
Knock your speed down a tad initially as you practice and develop, picking it up as appropriate.
It’ll come 👍
Opens your eyes that commentary
What a great cool calm commentary 👍
Great video(s), amazing rider. You can see your riding improve every time you follow. I like you scan up and down, so I'm interested to follow the advise of keeping the vision high, will see how that pans out with gravel and potholes!
Excellent video Bruce, I genuinely gained some valuable pointers watching you guys...such an old cliche but true, you never stop learning! Cheers Steve
Thanks Steve, glad you enjoyed it - Every day’s a school day! 😉👍
A lot of excellent information here. 👍👍
Some superb advanced riding by some VERY established riders. Great stuff.
Cheers 👍
The vision of riding at speed being further makes sense using prifaral sight more . Very informative video thanks for sharing 😊👍
Best Advanced Training i have seen for a very long time superb !!!!!!
This in a similar vain to how the IAM training used to be Back in the 1980's/90's minus the comm's and Camara's 😆😆
Thanks Brian 👍
Brilliant, great advice in this series. Thank you Bruce.
No dramas Curno, glad you’ve enjoyed it bud 👍
Brilliant video Bruce and really helpful and informative to experience Ryan’s commentary. The amount of information and vision is amazing. Definitely going to sign up for a rapid course 👍
Cheers Lee, glad it has been of use to you 👍
Absolutely loved this Bruce. Thoroughly enjoyed it.
Cheers Dom, glad you liked it 👍
Excellent training video, putting commentary to the essential mental exercise of motorcycling. Thanks…
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Great demonstration ride there. I am doing my IAM course and am near Marlborough. Recognise many of those roads. Thanks for the great content
That was top notch :) love rapid training, real world.
Cheers 👍
Nice video. Looked a great course
Great advice about keeping more focussed in the distance and using peripheral vision more. Will try that later.
Takes a fair bit of practice, but has really smoothed out my riding personally
This instructor dude is SHARP. Well and truly a professional. Excellent content for the channel, I learned….👍🏼 😎 🇺🇸 🌎
Great part 2 Bruce. Incredible commentry and Ryan is obviously an exceptionally skilled rider. Nice to see him giving advice to enhance rather than the ''Oh that's wrong'' attitude. I know some of those roads and the mix of wide open vista's with long sweeping bends and tight twisty 'Bocage' style hedge lined lanes, as well as town work (on the wrong day, Marlborough can be hazard central) gives a holistic approach to 'enhanced' or advanced riding techniques. Regardless of how good a rider you are, or think you are, this type of assessment is always of benefit.
Cheers mate 👍
Ah Hackpen Hill. Lovely bit of road!
Brilliant, feel out of breath just listening to the commentary 😅🏍👍
Wow... brilliant video Bruce. The commentary and riding from you both was excellent. Love it 👍
Thanks Dave, glad you liked it 👍
Really enjoyed that,And makes you think more reading the road more so than we do.
Triple Dave,
Improving your ability to read the read well is easlity the most transformational thing a road rider can do. Giving yourself time to see it sooner, interpret sooner and make a plan sooner will just make it all….easier.
Commentary is impressive, would be interesting to follow his commentary on roads he has not been on, just for comparison.
I’d be interested in this aswell, these videos are the first time I’ve heard my own commentary.
I like to think it would be there or very much there abouts as most of my coaching is done no where near roads I know these days, as the majority of my work is with the coaches and corporate clients in places like the Cotswolds, Peterborough and Lincoln.
@@ryandecarteret1017 I have been riding roads for 52 years, watching that video was enlightening. Perhaps I could benefit from some on road coaching.
@@bentblade1 there’s not a rider on the road who wouldn’t benefit from coaching, if they’re honest and open to it.. It’s likely after so long there’s no real “faults”, but our coaches would work with you to improve the parts that are already good, give you different drills to try and options for different scenarios.
Please do get in touch via the Rapid socials or the website and I’ll get one of the team to give you a call to chat things through.
"moving about on the gravel a bit" normally a brown pants moment for most lol
Ha Ha yep! 👍🤣
That was really informative Bruce. Loved that!
Cheers bud, hope you’re keeping well 👍
Thank you gents, really interesting stuff
No bother bud 👍
Cracking couple of videos, found his commentary very interesting indeed!
Thanks William 👍
Great vid Bruce. Really useful and learnt loads. Cheers Pal
My pleasure David, glad it was of use 👍
Fantastic !! THAT is how to ride safely at pace on the road, and brilliant commentary too, for me that is awe inspiring I did RoSPA back in 2000 and achieved a gold, now IPSGA is my mantra, but I reckon that I could do with a refresher, definately give them a look. It's a pity some of the other YT heroes don't give them a look, they think they can ride but they can't do that.
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Some great riding (& editing). Already a favourite video for me 💯
"Somewhat" reminiscent of some enjoyable, (solo), rides, advanced (civi) bike work & last car refresher....Devizes run - Yes please ! 😉.
Grub looked solid too😊
I suspect I may engage with RAPID at some point.
Thanks Bruce & Ryan 🏍👍
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Fantastic 🤜
I find the commentary absolutely mesmerising 👌
Ryan is an ex police surveillance rider and it shows in the detail of his commentary
Well worth trying it out for yourself, you’ll find it forces you to really look far ahead and actually make note of what you’re seeing, rather than just look at it.
It’ll slow you down initially too as you’ll have to go slower to fit everything in in your commentary, then you’ll get quicker in both senses as you improve 👍
Fantastic insight to what is possible for All of us as bike riders at what ever “level” we ride 👌
Talking yourself through your own ride helps the mind focus on the environment at that point....
Hopefully keeping us safe from the haze of ... “I wonder what’s for tea tonight hope it’s my favourite”... 🤔 Bang !!.....
So glad you did this series Bruce ...Stay safe all....🥃🏴
Thanks bud, great to hear so many folk are getting some benefit from them 👍
If there’s any doubt, there’s no doubt. Don’t risk it. 👍 great video 👍. The hard part I’m finding to do is keep my vision that far ahead. But I’m getting better at it. Just not coming natural as yet. But I’m sure it will.
Jim,
Keep at it. Short stints of focussed practice with knocking off just 2 or 3 mph will help develop the skill. 👌🏻
Good series cheers Bruce. I will definitely try Rapid I like their style (done most other advanced training incl bike safe) 👍🏻
Would be great to have you on one of the courses 👌🏻
Great vid and commentary. The most surprising thing to me though it's how much time he spends on the right hand side of the road. That's not something I've ever really done. I've always viewed the center line as the limit of how far I can use the road. Very interesting. Years ago I read roadcraft and found that incredibly useful. Looking far ahead, looking at tree lines that might indicate a side road and most of all vanishing points to get advance notice of tightening bends
Yeah, that suprised me too. I was like "wait a minute, you're actually allowed to be on the wrong side of the road!"
Yes you can use the full width of the road as long as you don’t cross a solid white centre line and as long as you’re not a danger to any other road users.
There is a skill in knowing when to use the ‘offside’ position and not something you should do without any real knowledge or training as to when and how to do it 👍
@@teapotone good to know, thanks for replying. Your videos are really enjoyable to watch. NATIONALS!
One of my favourite local routes… although I was knocked off a bicycle at the 28:30 crossroads by an NHS nurse driving rather carelessly a few years ago. Ouch!
Great stuff, instructive and inspirational, yet still entertaining. Its apparent from some of his comments Ryan is familiar with these roads. It would be interesting to hear his commentary & watch his ride on roads he is completely unfamiliar with. It would be educational to see the actual speeds you’re both riding at relative to various road & traffic conditions, but of course I’m well aware why you can’t do that ! I’ve been considering doing a Rapid course for a while and this is pushing me to stop prevaricating & take the plunge & do it.
I’d be interested in this aswell, these videos are the first time I’ve heard my own commentary.
I like to think both the riding and commenteynwould be there or very much there abouts as most of my coaching is done no where near roads I know these days. The majority of my work is with the coaches and corporate clients in places like the Cotswolds, Peterborough and Lincoln.
I’ll be leading a tour or Ireland in 10 days so will see what my group have to say.
Cheers Will,
Re the speed - I’ve blanked it out here as I wanted people to focus on what was being said, positioning, what we are looking at etc, and not have people focus on the actual speed. Believe it or not, a lot of the time we’re actually below the stated speed limit, or hardly over at all - but I’m sure you appreciate I won’t show when we are actually making progress as it just fuels the fire for all the ‘Nigels’ out there 😉👍
"making progress", "firming up the ride" lol @@teapotone
Making me want to upgrade my advanced training. From when I did my IAM
Ryan is the Dogs!
Rapid training is a very different focus I think to IAM Roadsmart. As you say Bruce, RS is all about staying legal at all times and staying safe. Nothing wrong in that as I found out myself, when training you do improve your ability to ride faster, safer and smoother, all within speed limits. Rapid training seems more aligned to Police Roadcraft where taking the Mickey doesn’t enter jnto it unless doing three figure speeds. It’s quite scary compared with IAM and shows how good our trained rapid response riders are.
Even with IAM group rides though, you learn so much and it’s always surprising to me how fast progress is made, making group rides more of a pleasure. I went into it late in my riding career but am pleasantly surprised that I seem to be doing most of what they’re teaching already, but like everything, you’re always learning. Putting that into practice is where continual improvement is made.
You’re doing really well, so your past experience and training has obviously stuck well 👍
i liked what he said about 30mph zones (think it was i wont get a speeding ticket in a 30mph) because its really not worth speeding in a 30. as a biker, you have all the power compared to any car mostly, you have the nimbleness compared to a car as your thin and can get through and do overtakes a car cant or would struggle with. but as a biker, with great power comes great responsibility. you need to look for the hazards and not expect others to see you, and be nice to others by respecting the 30mph zones.
me and my brother have been learning to drive since we were about 10year old, our dad was an advanced driving instructor (its sad he not around the now to keep giving us useful information when we forget bits of it) so before we were even behind the wheel we had a great knowledge of driving.
year after year in a 30zone, i have had the kid chasing the ball run out onto the road, stray cat or dog run out too and because i stick to around 30 (up to 10% over as speedometers are inaccurate) i can stop in time but in the nationals i think i have had 4 or 5 animals jump out at me in 17years of riding and driving. i get very annoyed by folk that speed in a 30mph zone but then do 55mph in the nationals, its like whats the point if your not in a hurry? even when my dad was passing away, i had a 30minute drive to get to where he was, i was still doing 30mph in my transit van but once on the motorway up to 95 as thats as fast as the van would go (so i did it in 20minutes and just caught him before he passed away). you can make so much speed and time up by speeding in the nationals i dont get why people speed in 30s. probably discipline and over the years bad habits creep in and some drivers are just lazy and dont care apart from themselves.
i feel there are people that want to drive/ride, they want to learn more and keep skills up to date and then people that need to drive, do the bare minimum to pass the tests and dont bother to learn more and probably have an accident or complain about other peoples driving/riding because they sticking inside their bubble of skill and think everyone should do the same.
rant over lol, thanks for those who read it, great video about skills and points of view to work on.
Another good Teapotone vlog
Cheers Steve 👍
Some brilliant observation and riding skills from both of you on display - very impressive stuff. My only worry is if one was to be caught riding at these speeds by the Police ( and you don't have a blue flashing light on your bike) surely you would be in for a serious penalty no matter your training / competence ?
Yes of course, speeding is speeding, if you’re caught then that’s that.
Just a note, we don’t actually train with flashing lights on the police bike course, and on the advanced bike course and onwards to the elite levels Ryan and Co have achieved, you train on unmarked bikes in civilian clothing.
It is ALL about observations and planning, with appropriate speeds for the circumstances
What a legand, and very infomative thank you do you still look riiiight ahead even today Teapot?
Yep course, but it’s something I have to consciously make myself do - it’s very easy to fall back into looking closer to you, you need to force the eyes right up as far along the road as you can see safely
Another excellent video Bruce, Ryan is certainly an amazing instructor. There is not a chance in hell I could ride to that standard, at those speeds, but I would like to give it a go.
Cheers Rob, aye he certainly knows hi stuff doesn’t he!
Well worth having a look at further training of some kind if you think you can benefit from it👍
Rob,
You absolutely could. I believe everyone has the ability to be great. You need to want it and find a coach who works well with you and your needs (we’ve 13 of them around the country 😉 ). Then it’s a case of focussed practice to ensure you implement the skills and drills into your ride with minimal effort.
If you want to give it go, get in touch via our social or website and we’ll give you a call to chat through some options etc.
@Ryan Decarteret many thanks for your input Ryan. I have my IAM and BMF Blue Ribband, but due to a scare some years ago I tense on some bends. I target fixate as well. Its getting that confidence back that is the issue. Your courses look great, but im not sure I have the budget for them right now sadly.
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It’s good that you’ve identified areas yourself.
Target fixation - keep those eyes active. Constantly pushing and searching for the furthest point. Harder than it sounds. Take a couple mph off to give yourself a chance…don’t worry about increasing the speed it’ll happen as you settle into that long rage vision.
Tensing up - easy to day “loosen up”, but start by ensuring your grip and shoulders are relaxed. When things do tighten up try to identify why and where. Bend approach, entry, mid corner etc? Where does “that feeling” start. If you can identify the detains, you’ll be able to find away to work around it.
Keep an eye on the likes of MCN/Bike/Ride mag etc. we often have completions and just closed a comp to win the full BIKEMASTER course.
@Ryan Decarteret thanks so much for the information Ryan. I spent 15 years teaching CBT (as it was years back then) so understand the importance of good training. The one thing you don't get taught with advanced training is what speed can you enter a bend at? IPSGA doesn't tell you how fast and which gear? That's the thing with advanced training, there are less "rules" and more "options " on the best way to make progress. Thank you so much for your replies, I will certainly keep my eyes open for the chance to win some training with you guys. I'm near Horsham, West Sussex, so hopefully you have a trainer this way?
This a great video and certainly inspires me to do better. I often find myself mindful of how car drivers interpret my movements to get a better view. As a rider and driver I can generally understand riders movements when behind me, but I’d be curious to know how non-rider car drivers feel. And don’t say “who cares” 😉
Stephen,
Perception is defo something that needs considering as they can’t help but react to what they see. We cover it a bit in the first video.
For the cars you’re following, time and distance are your friend. Riders with over 200bhp often follow a lot closer than they need to.
In the same breath, if we rode around and constantly work around how the “uneducated” feel about it then we’re not riding our own ride. Be aware how it can be perceived and the possible actions and plan for it.
Great video and commentary, making progress safely, can I ask your thoughts on trail braking for road riding ? - is that a conversation with the rider or does rapid steer students away from this?.
Lanky,
Trail braking. A controversial topic in the advanced/performance road riding world. When this comes up during coaching I always ask what the riders idea of trail braking is - I’ve heard lots of explainations.
At Rapid we think that it’s a tool that every rider should know how/when to use. But….if getting around “that bend” absolutely relies on you braking up to the apex then it’s very likely you’re going in too fast and leaving yourself exposed, if something ain’t quite as you thought.
A common theme the coaching team come accross is entry speed being too high on many an advanced rider meaning the mid corner speed is too high and importantly, the exit is massively compromised. On a modern bike there’s a huge advantage in going in slow, even a little too slow, to allow ourselves to turn crisply and accurately, get the bike stood up to use loads of traction so we can put down big horse power and come out the bend like a scalded cat - if the road ahead allows. Most riders will end up doing the bend with a slower (safer) entry speed, less (safer) lean angle but with an over all quicker pace and increased safety margins.
In short, yes. A great tool but shouldn’t be the “go to” tool. Also, practice/learn it in a closed environment like a track, is the ideal.
Hope that answers your question.
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Hi Teapot, very good video. When the instructor is talking about being at pace and looking as far as you can see, only using your peripheral vision to scan closer, how do you then look for any gravel or diesel spill in the road for example ? Thank you
Maumauplayz,
With practice you’ll start to see changes in the road surface as they come into view. Your peripheral vision is up and down as well to the sides so you’ll still gather more detail as you abroach.
Takes time, focused practice and some effort. Give it a go for short periods on roads you know, then ones you don’t. 👌🏻
As Ryan says here bud, it does take practice, I can attest to that, but it’s amazing how much detail you can actually pick up in your peripheral vision once you’re used to it.
Knock your speed down and practice as Ryan says, building as your confidence with the technique grows 👍
Clever marketing Bruce, i just saw mastering advanced techniques and assumed this video was just for me to confirm that i dont need to do this training!! 🤣🤣🤣
Expensive this course. Wish i learnt something from it but didn’t unfortunately. I felt like i had been robbed of £800
Did you find it a lot like ROADCRAFT and IPSGA Bruce ? Watching I felt quite at home having done both, the former when I was on the Ambulances, and the later I did privately. Good refresher making you look further ahead, and the running commentary reminded me of my old instructor, it’s mad isn’t it how it just gets tattooed on your brain and you never forget it
IPSGA is roadcraft Dave, it’s just a part of the Roadcraft system.
All advanced driving and riding is based on Roadcraft 👍
@@teapotone Most are but some UK advanced training providers in use other systems. I mainly ride to IPSGA as RC somewhat drilled in here...but I also practice stuff not covered in the blue book.
I note positively that Ryan mentioned body positioning, (here or on other Rapid related vid of yours).
I also see value in being able to brake & steer into or within a bend (even if only learned/practiced to use as a contingency). I can think of other skills not in blue book.
Oh no what have I started...I nearly said the T word 😉😅
@@AW8UK Wash your mouth out with Cornflakes :-) DB
@@seaflyfisher 🤣 Hi D (seaflyfisher)...I hope you are well👍
Have I been busted ? 😉
Ironically I saw your reply notification whilst reading "other motorycling books" to better understand suspension (having just booked my latest bike in with for custom set up for road use).
Rest assured I have not fully defected to the dark side..but I value useable extra skills in the back pocket if they may be of some use.
Take Care
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@@AW8UK - I'm very well thanks, your secrets safe with me - I wanted to get my suspension set up on the Benelli but was struggling to find anyone localish to me - I think Neil was out in Wiltshire yesterday but I haven't spoken to him for a few days - stay safe out there DB
Ryan is top notch. Not an expert but a level above ROSPA/IAM I think?
Cheers Gary, but believe me, Ryan is THE expert on this 👍
Hi @Gary Masterson. Not trying to initiate a bun fight...BUT curious to see your constructive reasoning to support your statement "Not an expert" 🤔😉
Gary,
Just clocked this comment and I am too wondering what makes you think I’m “a level above RoSPA/IAM”. I certainly don’t take that phraseology’s as in an insult, just after your thoughts.
They say it takes 10,000 hours to become and expert and with over a million motorbike miles under my belts and a huge majority of them as a professional motorcyclist I’ve achieved well over 10,000 hours. Likewise my full time employment is coaching all manor of motorcyclists from novice riders, to advanced riders, observers/tutors, motorcycle journalists, racers that include Hicky and Tim Neave and on top of that…other Rapid Coaches.
@@ryandecarteret1017 My apologies. I should have written "I am not an expert"!! That's what I meant. Rereading my statement, I can now see how I have left it open to misinterpretation. Ryan is most definitely an expert. Sorry guys
Great vid,
I often babbal on the same way when i ride to train my scan/road stategy ina conscious way.
Question one: any chance on publicing this trip on cali?
Question two: when can we expect the vid on the chickenstrips eifel tour?
Cheers Peter,
Q1: Here’s a link to the route - m.calimoto.com/t/LGsAUrpaVk
Q2: Hoping to start editing it in April at some point 👍
@@teapotone txs
@@teapotone visited the region, couple a years ago. We had our base camp in 'the old chapel' in Mark. Also visited airshow in Middle wallop.
Another awesome video, so good I’ve watched it twice already! Cheers guys 👍
Nice one Bagsy, cheers 👍
Tarmac-proof shorts (there's a like right there from me).
We’re you both using peripheral vision for potholes and dodgy road surfaces? Find it difficult to maintain distant vision with the amount of enormous potholes in Devon.
Yep, it comes with practice
You didn't miss the NSL sign leaving East Ilsley, - there was a period last year, presumably when you filmed this, when it was missing . It's now there again, just after the A34 underbridge. Ryan obviously didn't notice either :)
Ha Ha cheers Trevor - I did actually go back through all my footage to see where it was and couldn’t find it!
Glad I wasn’t going nuts 😉👍
Ryan - that’s a beer you owe me bud 😉🤣
@@teapotone a miss is a miss mate. Own it 😂
When was this filmed? the weather seems so nice.
May 2022.
I’m a bit late with the vids 😬🤦♂️
@@teapotone Arguably some value in letting some footage mature😉👍
Excellent commentary and riding from Ryan. Unless I'm missing something, I'm getting the impression that this is your normal advanced taught skills and systems, (apart from sticking to speed limits, and a bit more offsiding, which some organisations do not promote), but ridden to a nice progressive pace? As Ryan's observations and commentary are what is taught anyway? Not a criticism, just an observation from a rider who has a few qualifications and likes to get on with things. 👍🏻
It all depends on your own level as a student bud. The instructors all come from a previous line of work where they’ve received the very highest level of motorcycle training possible, so they can accommodate all levels of riding.
It is all based around the Roadcraft principles, but they have plenty of ‘tricks’ up their sleeves to impart knowledge that will progress and develop everyone 👍
Thanks for the reply Bruce, I hear what you're saying. No matter what our level of riding, we can always learn something from someone. As I found out at the end of a training course, my instructor learnt as much from me as I had from them👍🏻🏍
I see there is a lot of cutting through corners going straight over the opposite lane, even when positioning for a better view ahead.
My question is if that type of behaviour gives the wrong message to potential cars behind, encouraging them to overtake or making them think you're erratic.
Would you do that if there was a police car behind you? Would they pull you over to have a chat about road safety?
Yes I would ride in that manner with a police car behind, as that’s the way they’re trained too, and I’ll happily have that discussion with them👍
Agree with Bruce. Would be more of an indication that you know what you’re doing. Police drivers are well rehearsed with Roadcraft.
As mentioned in the video, be aware of public perception but it shouldn’t be the be all and end all, of riding your bike well.
Yep as long as it was safe and legal I too would ride as appropriate. I even have a video of my overaking a Police landrover becuase it was pottering along a national speed limit road.
Viewing this rapid trainer for me as a new rider is comparable to getting coaching from The Ghostrider 😮😂👏 what the hell was my test all about?
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Same as a car bud, passing the test is just the first bit which allows you to ride on the road. You learn to actually ride after that, often through trial and error, or copying others.
If you seek further training, you can speed up the process dramatically, and hopefully also skip out the bad habits and wrong bits 😉
As a new rider, Bikesafe is a great insight into the Roadcraft principles, and it will undoubtedly make you safer.
Or go direct to Rapid or IAM/RoSPA 👍
Haha - I’m not sure about that Chris.
As Bruce says, decent training will accelerate your riding ability.
I don’t know what the roads are like in old Blighty but I know that in the land down under one of the big hazards on country roads is gravel patches.
Most of the car parks, side roads, driveways and so forth tend to be gravel or dirt and a lot of that dirt and gravel ends up on the road, even after heavy rain some roads end up with what looks like a dried up river bed across the road.
I only make mention of this because in evaluating certain parts of the road little was mentioned about being aware of gravel.
I myself do prefer dirt roads over bitumen, dirt is so much more fun, bitumen is boring. 😂😂😂😂😂
WhiteDRguy,
Road surface comes under Reading The Road. It’s not just where the road goes but what is underneath us. Episode 1 you’ll see me talking l a little about gravel and broken/bumpy edge of carriageway.
Bruce is a very experienced rider and the coaching was tailored to his needs. Knowing the training he’s done previously, an in-depth conversation about gravel or the road surface in general wasn’t needed.
10:15 - 30 in to Nationals... no life saver check, as advocated by IAM? What's the view on this?
I’ve NEVER been taught to lifesaver when braking or accelerating? Check mirrors yes, but never lifesaver.
Excellent video, would be nice if all the training where in play list and then it would be easy to find them for a refresh.
You getting pushed out of your old job for going a bit fast, looks like people at the top should have gone after some proper criminals in their own ranks.
No comment Tic 😉👍
That overtake at 18:34 was as way more risky than I would've gone for....
Steeps,
Interested to hear your reasons why? My commentary called out the single driveway being clear and safe and that he road ahead was clear. After the overtake I Called out some bins so was planning for a further driveway, as well as the advanced warning of a bend in the distance.
Always worth baring in mind you’re watching the overtake from behind through a lens and not seeing what the lead rider sees, but I think the commentary give a good idea of what I saw and was planning for.
@Ryan Decarteret I thought the same thing when I first saw it, however as you say your perspective is different from Bruce's and also the fact that the junction is there is a hazard, however you've checked and cleared it AND the speed and position of the blue car gave a good indication that they weren't going to take turn right into it. Not unless it was Mika Häkkinen doing a Scandi Flick.
Steeps in general is right tho. If there is ANY doubt hold back.
I watched it again and it was a fine piece of work. Good work Sir 👍
Liked the comment about the post lunch slump being a "Carbohydrate Coma" 😂
@@theseizednut agree with if there’s any doubt and mention it on episode 1, in this case I had no doubt. I don’t coach what can be done when a vehicle is “commited by speed” as it’s a little too open to interpretation.
The carbohydrate comma is a real thing. Riders need to understand that their body is working hard to digest food so giving it another task of riding quickly needs to be introduced.l rather than just getting on and getting straight on the gas. On track days I graze rather than eat meals other wise I end up sitting sessions out as I know I’m not proper set up for it.
@@ryandecarteret1017 Yea I meant as the vehicle in front is passed a point where they could commit to turning in front of you not on the approach, but your right it can be interpreted in 100 different ways by 100 different people.
I'm sure you've seen people do the strangest things.
I had a post van slam on the anchors and turn right in very similar circumstances to the car we are chatting about.
Something told me in my head that something wasnt quite right so I rolled off rather than commit and sure enough, anchors deployed and pitched right on what must have been full right lock and then some to make the turn.
@@theseizednut You can have all the training in the world but always trust your gut.
Absolutely right re interpretation. Think it might come up in episode 3, but coaching peoples appetite and attitude to risk is tough and takes some careful listening and a strong two way conversation. We try not to put a right/wrong, safe/dangerous on anything….more a subtle….could it have been better/smoother/more accurate/earlier/later type approach. A stand up argument about safety doesn’t build a relationship or help improve a rider as learning barriers form. And we bikers can be a little stubborn 😂
You was literally 5 mins from my house lol
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Excellent, Its like watching me........pffft.
Just like it….. 😶……. 😐….. …….
Another masterclass of brisk road riding in the real world without being a bell-end. One day with a bit more time & money…
Would be great to have you on board 👍🏼
Can he stop within the distance he can see to be clear on his side of the road? especially on bends, he cannot!
Yes
You will have little reaction time if a hazard emerges inside a bend. Taking for granted that nothing will come up in a bend and acting like ready for it :) Chasing the limit point will not help. I know you will talk about the information phase :) @@teapotone. There is a saying, "There are bold riders and there are old riders but there are no bold and old riders" ;) Progress does not mean FAST! It actually has nothing to do with speed. It means getting on with it ;) Ride safe brother. (I am also an IAM and RoSPA rider.)
@burakd - everything you say there is correct, that is why we ride at a speed which we can react.
I used to ride far quicker than this, but realised my perceived reactions were not as quick as I thought they were. I now ride slower and only at a pace which I’m happy.
Yours may be faster, it may be slower, but that’s down to you. Don’t apply your own abilities and reaction times to others, everyone is different.
I agree 🤙@@teapotone
A true demonstration of speed doesn't kill, its inappropriate speed that does.. when the whole country is down to a pathetic 50mph , we will all ignore them and be bandits !
Speed limits are becoming a joke. As you probably know Bruce, in Kent they have systematically lopped about 10mph off every speed limit. National roads are now 50mph, the old 50's are now 40's and many 30's have now become 20's for no discernible reason other than more chances of speed camera revenue generation.
Sadly I absolutely agree with you there Terry, seems it’s just a revenue generating exercise
" tar mac proof shorts on " PMSL
Surely riding one handed is a no no on an advanced riding tutorial vid.
Frankylee,
How do you open/close your visor?
I’m being a little flippant there sorry, but it’s about being in control and riding a realistic and relevant ride.
Why ride so fast? Must one have to overtake everything in front of you? Not complaining at all just asking. Doesn't the risk of accident and injury or death just multiply?
I enjoy it - and I only ride as fast as I feel is appropriate in the circumstances
Dave,
Riders are individuals and want different things from the ride. Certainly when coaching I ask riders to take advantage of overtakes opportunities that they consider acceptable and achievable as they’ve only a limited time with the coach to work on these aspects of riding.
@@ryandecarteret1017 Tks for yr replies, really appreciate the feedback. Quite true. I guess coming from such a tiny 19 mile Long Island, with such unpredictable drivers, traditions and speeds look and feel different. Tks for answering my note. Great stuff teapot n Co. Always watch yr stuff 💪🤙
something is happening with your speedometer - I cannot see your speed very often ;-)
Sean Connery on a bike.
How the F does he process the environment and then commentate on it. 😲
Practice, and looking far ahead 👍
It's quick...but if we're watching the speed limits, we are never going to be able to keep up with Si in the Pico's....just sayin....🤣