@@ChrisWidell Yes, but plenty of devs have proprietary engines that don't run particularly well. Don't wanna name any names but one that comes to mind rhymes with Spethesda ;)
We need more like this out of Ubisoft. Carefully-crafted, technical showcase, polished games for their major releases, to complement their mid budget or low budget games they also put out.
Farcry 6 story setup: Help 3 clans and kill the leader. Avatar: Help 3 clans and kill the leader. Ubisoft games are usually very good because they dont use Unreal, but when you played one you played them all.
I see peeps commenting about 45fps modes a lot but always thought meh. Been playing this game on a 7800xt everything ultra, upscale qual ultra, frame gen off and without fps graph to remind me , playing at around 45fps was actually fine, even on my lg 65" 4k TV. Still dialed it back for 60 eventually, just feels better but 45 is absolutely streets ahead of 30fps, that shit is awful. Really gotta upgrade my CPU...
Not even, you know it’s finely tuned when they can hit 60 fps with all RT settings active, I truly find that more surprising than anything else. Other than Insomniac, no other developers have hit that mark. It’s really amazing to see with a game this detailed
@@danielwilson6323 Did you even watch the video? They include RT across all machine. Of course with less ray-counts on Series S as it should. They also pare back other graphical settings
@@soraaoixxtheblueskysince Spider-man remastered/miles released. Yeah, ppl on Xbox only are sort of left behind in gaming tech... Rt sucks on consoles anyways. Cube maps would work just as well and save gpu/cpu for better raster perf. But this is too technical for you to grip
I’m kind of shocked they didn’t just go with Far Cry’s Dunia engine for this game given how similar the format is. But the engine looks more impressive to be honest. And gives me some hope for the upcoming Star Wars game which will use the same engine.
unreal engine 5 is a "dogshit" now because many bug developers have just begun to use it now, as time goes on, developers will learn to use it in full potential, I believe the Coalition will have a good use for it
@@Mychannelbandungthat's because devs actually know how to get the most out of it. Unfortunately most devs don't seem to know how to optimise their games to the same extent.
Its honestly one of the most beautiful games I have ever played, once you get to the grassland area its incredible and worthy of being awarded for its level design.
Are you sure....yes beautiful but for first 20min . The rest is typical boring Ubisoft reskinned FarCry . Play Far Cry Primal instead - 10 times more interesting and engaging . Pretty shell is not a recipe for a good game .
@@ivofixzone6410 The OP only talked about its beauty. And they are right. The game looks unbelievable. I suppose, just like Avatar the movie, the visuals are surface deep to some. But that doesn't take away the fact that it is a technical showpiece. Games have a lot more than visuals, and so maybe the game is boring, haven't played it yet.
Same. I'll add it to my wishlist, this is a very pleasant surprise this year!! I'll definitely play it eventually, and I'm sure I'll love it from everything I've been seeing of it until now.
The game looks amazing but it's said to have lackluster story and world so I'd really recommend just getting ubisoft+ for a month or two to access the game and then unsubscribe
It’s the exact same thing every generation. It takes 2 - 3 years for big games to start only coming out on the new generation. People have short memories. PS3 had big games coming out for years after the PS4 came out. We’re right on track with this generation.
Not sure what you mean by "next gen game", games typically take 3-6 years to develop, this one has been in development since 2017, what makes it "next gen"?
I have to say, 60fps feels and looks great on the on ps5. The world is so detailed and lush you barely notice any different visually apart from some muddle looking water reflections at times
@@CheckmateStallioN What an absolutely absurd comment. Go & check out DF's video on the PC version, especially near the end where they mention the "Unobtainium" hidden setting set you can unlock.
It is genuinely one of the best looking games I’ve ever played. I didn’t mind playing on the 30fps mode just to take the added extras on the visuals. Genuinely stunning.
The game is good because it's made by Massive and not Ubisoft (they did help a lil but they are not the main devs). Ubisoft buying Massive was a super smart decision thou.
I just bought it today for $49. I'm going to be testing it on a 5800x/ 7900 XTX Nitro. Most of the ray tracing is probably not an option for me, but I am curious to see how it runs with a proper FSR 3 implementation on a 5120 * 1440 screen with HDR. It seems like Massive got every version running the best it could on all platforms.
Picked up Avatar Frontiers of Pandora on PS5 and man the graphics are absolutely stunning! It’s the first game since Horizon Forbidden West that has blown me, the world of Pandora is so lush, the natural environment, lighting is top notch. Flying around on the Ikran is a treat, Far Cry Primal is one of my all time favorite games and Avatar Frontiers of Pandora captures the vibe of that game perfectly. 😊😊
A locked 30 with proper frame pacing will always feel good. It’s the unstable 30 that’s horrendous. I mostly always play performance. But I’m playing this on Quality and it’s great!
@@Nucleosynthese whenever I invest into a PC. I’m sure I will. I’m old school. I don’t want to get a PC because I know what’s going to happen. I’ll only play PC and I’ll lose the awesome childhood feeling of playing on console.
Avatar: FoP (PC) is the breakout title of 2023 for me. It just came out of nowhere after the Game Wards just wrapped. It has been over a decade since a title has come along that made my jaw drop just in visuals alone; not since the original Crisis. I'm still fairly early on through my playthrough but nevertheless the game is absolutely breathtaking from a visual standpoint. I hope Massive Entertainment releases many DLCs and expansions for this game.
I must say, i favor performance fully for this one just because of the first person movement and verticality in platforming which really imo feels better with higher framerate.
My thought always while playing this. The bump from 30fps to 40fps felt massive when Horizon Forbidden West put it in. i want that option everywhere now
40 fps is mediocre, they are popular because ps5?is a crap and developer dont have vrr until late in the game and digital sony is always looking for excuses for sony mediocre console. Even now vrr is pure crap
My only issue is how short the motion blurring is on 30fps. Basically feels like it’s not even there. A longer shutter speed would really help smooth that more out especially on things like your Ikran’s wings flapping.
@@Nucleosynthese Well yes, of course. My point is about consoles which lock the quality mode at 30fps, and what could be done to improve the fluidity of the visual experience.
60fps is a must. The thing about Quality modes, even 40fps modes, is that they only look better when you’re standing still. Moving the camera and getting that stuttering ruins the image. I can’t imagine caring so much about a sharper still image, to where I’d be willing to give up such smoother gameplay.
I am about 10 hours in so far on my Series S and it looks beautiful. They truly delivered next gen features on all consoles. Gameplay is fun too, especially when you unlock your ikran.
@@MamaSymphonia Exactly, its also very impressive they retain both ray traced GI and reflections on Series S while a lot of developers skip ray tracing all together on the S.
I've personally played it on both Series S and PS5 - while the PS5 obviously does look better, it's unbelievable to me how amazing this game looks on the little Series S as well. Just an absolutely phenomenal job all around.
Snowdrop really amazed me in terms of quality and capability running the game on console. On my high end pc its just a graphical masterpiece. Game is good and they did an amazing job!
40 fps is barely playable even with VRR which reprojects the frames and in the process creates a burry image in motion. VRR might give you the illusion of smoother performance when in reality adds a shitload of blur effects and reprojection hiding the jittery frames but adding a ton of artifacts and blur which defeats the whole purpose. It barely feels smoother than 30 fps. A 10 fps difference is marginal. Both 30 and 40 feel choppy AF. Either 60 fps or GTFO
@@CheckmateStallioN I tested it out on the PC with VRR on an LG display, 40fps isn't that great, but 45fps feels very much like 60fps to me, it's remarkable how much of a difference that extra 5fps is actually doing to my eyes. With that said, you can get away with 40fps on smaller displays like the Steam Deck, but on bigger displays, 45fps or above is more ideal.
@@CheckmateStallioN limiting fps at 40 is half the answer, it has to be at 120hz , 160hz and so on , so it displays evenly with consistent frame times.
If you have a VRR TV it's fine, the performance is incredibly smooth. TBH when they made the game I think they were expecting/hoping most have this feature (it has to be forced on via the PS5 system settings for this title though bizarrely before it's activated. On Xbox it activates naturally fine).
I wish you would have touched the 2nd large area. I play on PC with a 4070 and had no issues at all in the jungle running with DLSS Quality at 1440p and ultra settings. As soon as reaching the great plains my fps fell of a cliff. Instead of 60-80 I dropped down to 40 at times. I switched to FSR3 with frame gen and reduce some shadow settings to stay above 60 fps. I would expect the consoles will struggle even more in that area.
@SilverSurfer-mg6ti I think for single player 60 is fine. For slower paced single player stuff 40fps is also fine. But yeah with AMD's Frame Gen tech, 120fps converted from 60 should be totally feasible.
This game shows how important custom game engines are. Snowdrop is developed by the same team who makes games using it. Every feature game developers need can be implemented in the core of the engine. To take full advantage of the hardware we need a close cooperation between low-level engine programmers, game designers and artists. To achieve RT in 60 FPS at 1080+ resolution with such high quality assets, a specialized workflow has to be maintained. This is almost impossible to achieve with Unity3D or Unreal Engine 5. Only most experienced teams are able to achieve similar results with general engines. However it takes so much effort that in-house engine would be a better choice anyway.
I’m playing at the moment and loving it. I think it has more in common with the Horizon games than Far Cry. Unfortunately I’ve got stuck with a bug on The Missing Hunter quest so I can’t carry on with the story until it’s fixed.
I was pretty bored by Horizon overall but this game is weirdly amazing! It's not for everyone, the dumb ass overly sincere story and difficult to navigate world early on especially; but the combat, stealth, movement, crafting etc, all feels so much more thoughtful than any of the other open world games I've played, all of them pushing you to engage with the world they've built rather than just repeating the same thing that works until the next thing unlocks. It's upsetting that Avatar of all properties gets the technically and mechanically great game.
I rarely play games on quality mode but as soon as I stepped out of the tunnel of the RDA facility I switched to quality mode and haven't switched back. This game visual spectacle is definitely worth the lower FPS, albeit with motion blur on.
It really is an astonishing-looking game. I've been playing on PC and it just looks fantastic, even with a 6700xt. Just had to figure out that the game defaulted to a weird refresh rate (well, 120hz seems normal, but 119.84 was the correct, and available option) and switching to that removed any stuttering I had. All in all I'm absolutely amazed the resolution the consoles are pushing here too. Oh, and it's pretty fun to boot, even as someone who has zero interest in the movies after seeing the first one in theaters.
I have a VRR oled display and the game looks great on PS5 and for the most part feels pretty smooth however it seems to drop out if the VRR range a little too often during intense fire fights which makes it a little jarring. Hopefully a patch cleans this up then it'll be perfect. Feel too many games rely on VRR cleaning up their performance modes.
Definitely has more of a Crysis feel than it does Far Cry. Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I’ve been playing this game non stop on PS5 in Performance mode with a 120Hz 2.1 monitor and it’s breathtakingly beautiful. I wish Photo Mode was a bit more fleshed out though.
Loving this game so far and have been playing on quality mode without even questioning it 😂 it’s smooth and feels good. Looks like performance isn’t worth trying out, I find unstable frame rates way more distracting than a solid lower frame rate.
Excellent breakdown. I was going to wait to see how it performed on PS5 before buying but my impatience got the better of me. It’s absolutely stunning, the kind of graphical prowess that differentiates the last gen with the current. We need more experiences like this, even if it is limited by the generic Ubisoft formula. A very impressive showing from Snowdrop, and even more so from the Series S. Despite its limitations it’s proving to be a cracking console for those on a budget.
The best release this year and it's December... It looks perfect, it works nearly perfect and the open world and the atmosphere is a most wanted for all Avatar fans.
Yes and the XSX now at $350 is even crazier! Keep in mind that it's also a UHD player so it's a steal for that price if you ask me. I got both the S and X along with a Panny B820 which alone is around $400-$500.
@UbisoftMassiveEntertainment: Feature Request: Please add a separate 40 fps (quality) mode for 120 Hz displays (as done in Horizon Forbidden West, Hogwarts Legacy, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, and Spider-Man games). With the 30 fps mode having stable performance, hopefully such a 40 fps mode won't require too many cutbacks in quality and resolution.
Really had someone on another video trying to tell me the graphics in this game weren't anything special and that it looks no better than far cry. I swear so many gamers nowadays are just spoiled and blind. This game looks absolutely incredible, every time I play it I find myself just stopping in places and just looking at the scenery.
I might have been tempted with the quality mode if the motion blur were better, but I've stuck to performance and I'm pretty happy with it in most cases.
I was happily playing Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora on my RTX 4080 PC at 60fps, when not a while into a 40 minute gameplay, a pop-up window appeared with Linus Sebastians face and a warning was displayed. "You are a loser "freak", Gamers who play at 60fps need to be shot . "I only game on systems and monitors with 950fps and above". Well, as you can imagine, I was totally shocked. I was having an enjoyable time playing the game Avatar, much like other PC games on my system albeit at 60fps, I don't understand why I'm hated for not having a 989fps VRR display, only having a 60hz OLED. Does me proud, or is that now the wrong thing to say.
@@XZ-III for me it's more a matter of convenience to have all games in one place. That said, I don't really care where the game is, as long as I can play it. Battle Net and Steam are always open on my pc, and I open the others when I need them. Not a big deal imo.
60fps with Ray tracing enabled including reflections, and global illumination lighting on a $399 to $499 dollar console with this level of graphics is quite impressive and goes to show that when devs put forth the effort at max optimization they can really push these new Console far past what they should theoretically be capable of and this game is probably the greatest example of that to date
As always UA-cam compression is ruining things. It's especially noticeable in games with heavy dense foliage and detail like this, it was also a huge problem for Forza Horizon 5.
Nearly every game I've played constantly has swaying foliage and trees which is totally unrealistic. I know not all games are trying to be realistic but for me it's a strange design choice. It must be very windy in video game world.
Thank god you picked up on the Xbox breakup issue, it’s horrendous when in full sun, especially on trees. At times most of the foliage is flickering from pixels to foliage it’s jarring. Oh and you missed the bug where if you restore from quick resume it revers to fidelity mode 😑 I have to keep changing it back to performance.
We need pro consoles. No way gta 6 will be 60fps on console. It’ll be 1440p 30fps at this rate. Idk how games look only slightly better than they did last gen and yet run hella worse. 800p in 2023 is crazy.
Snowdrop is such a powerful engine. Whether it be this game, The Division or the Rabbids games on the Switch, it's nuts to see the visuals it can deliver.
This is what I was hoping ark ascended would look like and I have to say quality mode on series X is fantastic. It doesn’t even feel like 30fps Incredible game, really feels like Pandora. Well done Ubisoft, give us a sequel set in the oceans
Eh, I think the 30 fps does feel exactly like 30 fps. Try playing on the 60 fps mode for a couple hours and then go back to 30 fps mode. You will notice a big difference.
Anyone else have weird HDR behavior on PS5? On my C1 all the shadows get raised like crazy, the highlights look great but blacks are super raised and it kills the contrast.
Today I will beat the game I'm at 95% story completion.. this game is beautiful. !!! Wish I had a gaming PC for this game honestly. It's the new crisis " can it run avatar 😂"
I know I'm in the minority, but I almost always opt for quality over performance when I have a choice. 60 fps is great, but a lot of games can't quite hit that number, and I'd always trade the framerate when I can get visuals like these.
I hv an LG C1 55 inch Oled looker. Gonna stick to Quality mode all the way for best and most highest possible immersion on PS5 😍 Mostly a stealth player anyways in Farcry style games which this pretty much is with Avatar skin. Might as well enjoy the best possible optimization available on my machine 😍😍 Will switch to easily enjoy VRR enabled Performance mode for Platinum trophy mop ups.
Really impressive showing for the consoles. Massive and Snowdrop are apparently great together. This bodes very well for Star Wars Outlaws.
Well, Snowdrop is Massive’s in-house engine. 🙂
@@ChrisWidell Yes, but plenty of devs have proprietary engines that don't run particularly well. Don't wanna name any names but one that comes to mind rhymes with Spethesda ;)
We need more like this out of Ubisoft. Carefully-crafted, technical showcase, polished games for their major releases, to complement their mid budget or low budget games they also put out.
Try get them to do this while also offering quality across the board. Ubisoft has been failing the last few years for a reason.
Farcry 6 story setup: Help 3 clans and kill the leader. Avatar: Help 3 clans and kill the leader.
Ubisoft games are usually very good because they dont use Unreal, but when you played one you played them all.
I wouldn't call this a success either
@@PlayJaschactually the story makes sense from far cry to this game because if you watch the first movie they did the same thing.
My guess is that there are huge sponsors behind this game.
I think a 40 fps mode would be perfect for this game, but overall it’s an incredible work of optimization, especially on Series S!
There is a 40fps mode... it's called Unobtanium on 4080/4090 series cards on PC lmao... Nah but for real. Game looks great on every platform!
I see peeps commenting about 45fps modes a lot but always thought meh. Been playing this game on a 7800xt everything ultra, upscale qual ultra, frame gen off and without fps graph to remind me , playing at around 45fps was actually fine, even on my lg 65" 4k TV. Still dialed it back for 60 eventually, just feels better but 45 is absolutely streets ahead of 30fps, that shit is awful.
Really gotta upgrade my CPU...
40fps is my go-to setting nowadays on console, so it sucks when it's not an option. Why is that and why don’t most big budget games have the option?
Agreed. 40fps options should be standard. 30 looks like garbage to me but 40fps on Spiderman was pretty much indistinguishable to 60 for me.
I'm tired of this comment
You know it's a finely tuned game when they can include RT even on a Series S
Not even, you know it’s finely tuned when they can hit 60 fps with all RT settings active, I truly find that more surprising than anything else. Other than Insomniac, no other developers have hit that mark. It’s really amazing to see with a game this detailed
Wasn’t that the PS5 ? I feel like having that expectation for the XSS is a little unrealistic given the major differences
@@danquaza9275 Since when Insomniac make games that can run 60fps with RT enable on a 4 Teraflops machine?
@@danielwilson6323 Did you even watch the video? They include RT across all machine. Of course with less ray-counts on Series S as it should. They also pare back other graphical settings
@@soraaoixxtheblueskysince Spider-man remastered/miles released.
Yeah, ppl on Xbox only are sort of left behind in gaming tech... Rt sucks on consoles anyways. Cube maps would work just as well and save gpu/cpu for better raster perf. But this is too technical for you to grip
I’m kind of shocked they didn’t just go with Far Cry’s Dunia engine for this game given how similar the format is. But the engine looks more impressive to be honest. And gives me some hope for the upcoming Star Wars game which will use the same engine.
It’s funny you say that, because Far Cry 7 seems like it’s gonna use Snowdrop.
Dunia is extremely old, outdated and is getting replaced with Snowdrop anyways.
I am glad the did not use Dunia. Snowdrop is so much better.
@@JustJuan731Hopefully the next Assassin's Creed will be on Snowdrop as well. Because the Anvil engine looks pretty dated these days.
@@uriahg9775 nope, AC Red is is gonna be an upgraded Anvil Next (we’ll probably finally get Anvil Next 3.0)
Truly shows how dogsh*t Unreal 5 is on consoles when a game like this, with Ubisofts own engine looks and runs so beautifully even on a Series S
"own engine" thats why its so good. devs pushing limits usally with their own engines.
unreal engine 5 is a "dogshit" now because many bug developers have just begun to use it now, as time goes on, developers will learn to use it in full potential, I believe the Coalition will have a good use for it
In-house engine is always superior to licensed engine like unreal and unity. None can argue that!
@@Will-pm6fqrobocop is ue 5 and it looks great
@@Mychannelbandungthat's because devs actually know how to get the most out of it. Unfortunately most devs don't seem to know how to optimise their games to the same extent.
Its honestly one of the most beautiful games I have ever played, once you get to the grassland area its incredible and worthy of being awarded for its level design.
Are you sure....yes beautiful but for first 20min . The rest is typical boring Ubisoft reskinned FarCry . Play Far Cry Primal instead - 10 times more interesting and engaging . Pretty shell is not a recipe for a good game .
@@ivofixzone6410 The OP only talked about its beauty. And they are right. The game looks unbelievable.
I suppose, just like Avatar the movie, the visuals are surface deep to some. But that doesn't take away the fact that it is a technical showpiece.
Games have a lot more than visuals, and so maybe the game is boring, haven't played it yet.
@@AlexAnteroLammikko the Gameplay is amazing and the story is fine
@@Ding-2014yap yap yap
30fps looks like a blurry slideshow and the 60fps looks like an xbox one game, doesn't look good at all.
I never thought I'd be buying or even desiring playing an Avatar game. I'm very excited to play after seeing this footage.
Same. I'll add it to my wishlist, this is a very pleasant surprise this year!!
I'll definitely play it eventually, and I'm sure I'll love it from everything I've been seeing of it until now.
Hollywood movie to video game very rarely works and with this game and with robocop that trend might change.
The game looks amazing but it's said to have lackluster story and world so I'd really recommend just getting ubisoft+ for a month or two to access the game and then unsubscribe
One of my favorite game this year. Truly a dream come true for avatar fans
I'm loving all of these next generation games that are finally coming to consoles. It felt like Gen 8 was never going to end.
And games finally using Mesh Shaders!
It’s the exact same thing every generation. It takes 2 - 3 years for big games to start only coming out on the new generation. People have short memories. PS3 had big games coming out for years after the PS4 came out. We’re right on track with this generation.
Not sure what you mean by "next gen game", games typically take 3-6 years to develop, this one has been in development since 2017, what makes it "next gen"?
I have to say, 60fps feels and looks great on the on ps5. The world is so detailed and lush you barely notice any different visually apart from some muddle looking water reflections at times
Got a series s for 100 bucks last week and this game runs so good on it! RT for days!
@@nick13bbrand new?
english?
Honestly it's astounding that there even is a 60fps mode with the visuals and rendering tech here. Amazing
This game is hardly demanding. They went for a specific artstyle
@@CheckmateStallioNTje game uses RTGI and RT reflections, are you high ?
@@CheckmateStallioN What an absolutely absurd comment. Go & check out DF's video on the PC version, especially near the end where they mention the "Unobtainium" hidden setting set you can unlock.
@@CheckmateStallioN Prove it.
It is genuinely one of the best looking games I’ve ever played. I didn’t mind playing on the 30fps mode just to take the added extras on the visuals. Genuinely stunning.
Also try it on PC. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@@Nucleosynthesewhen you have a high end rig
I have an 3070 and my vram is fucked when i buy this game
The first time you leave the facility and enter into Pandora is visually amazing.
I'm 42 hrs in, 85% story completion and having a blast!!! One of the best open world games I've ever played. What Ubisoft did here is amazing 👏🏻
How’s the story for Ubisoft standards?
The game is good because it's made by Massive and not Ubisoft (they did help a lil but they are not the main devs). Ubisoft buying Massive was a super smart decision thou.
@@gleam6370 the same, which is to say mediocre.
it is Massive Entertainement who developped it ;) Let's give them the credit they deserve
@@gleam6370 decent! Everything fits better in a Avatar world
Im playing it on a 4090 but holy....the consoles hold up pretty amazingly
I just bought it today for $49. I'm going to be testing it on a 5800x/ 7900 XTX Nitro. Most of the ray tracing is probably not an option for me, but I am curious to see how it runs with a proper FSR 3 implementation on a 5120 * 1440 screen with HDR. It seems like Massive got every version running the best it could on all platforms.
Picked up Avatar Frontiers of Pandora on PS5 and man the graphics are absolutely stunning! It’s the first game since Horizon Forbidden West that has blown me, the world of Pandora is so lush, the natural environment, lighting is top notch. Flying around on the Ikran is a treat, Far Cry Primal is one of my all time favorite games and Avatar Frontiers of Pandora captures the vibe of that game perfectly. 😊😊
Avatar frontiers of Pandora feels like magic. Thats how good it is 😊
I've been absolutely adoring this game! One of the only games I play on Quality.
A locked 30 with proper frame pacing will always feel good. It’s the unstable 30 that’s horrendous. I mostly always play performance. But I’m playing this on Quality and it’s great!
@@Johnanomous Also try the PC version maybe. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@@Nucleosynthese whenever I invest into a PC. I’m sure I will. I’m old school. I don’t want to get a PC because I know what’s going to happen. I’ll only play PC and I’ll lose the awesome childhood feeling of playing on console.
Avatar: FoP (PC) is the breakout title of 2023 for me. It just came out of nowhere after the Game Wards just wrapped. It has been over a decade since a title has come along that made my jaw drop just in visuals alone; not since the original Crisis. I'm still fairly early on through my playthrough but nevertheless the game is absolutely breathtaking from a visual standpoint. I hope Massive Entertainment releases many DLCs and expansions for this game.
Agreed the game is fun and visually stunning. My only complaint is how Vanilla the story is but that's a minor gripe compared to the rest of the game
I had the same feeling I had when first playing Crysis as soon as I entered the jungle in Avatar for the first time.
Ok Avatar "Fop" sounds pretty stupid in my opinion.
I dont think Game Awards are even worth effort in paying attention to. feels liek the people hosting those are playing different kind of game
@@deadcaptainjames6045 probably so it can be cannon
I LOVE this game. Gives me the sense of awe I was hoping to get from Starfield.
lol Sweet Summer Child
It’s one section of one planet lol
Better than 1000 garbage planets with garbage debris everywhere lol Starfield
@typethings4624 at least it was different. This is just far cry with a different name
@@alexgray9565 Once I actually started playing for myself it wasn't Far Cry that came to mind. It far more resembles Crysis IMO.
The Snowdrop engine really is a marvel.
Some would say it's....massive 🤭
@@Fizzleish See what you did there....😂
I must say, i favor performance fully for this one just because of the first person movement and verticality in platforming which really imo feels better with higher framerate.
Devs need to do more 40 fps settings
40fps Quality Mode with 120hz TVs ❤️💪
My thought always while playing this. The bump from 30fps to 40fps felt massive when Horizon Forbidden West put it in. i want that option everywhere now
40 fps is mediocre, they are popular because ps5?is a crap and developer dont have vrr until late in the game and digital sony is always looking for excuses for sony mediocre console. Even now vrr is pure crap
@@acevedoaandres cry more
@@acevedoaandres Sony are the only ones offering 30fps, 40fps 60 fps and 120fps modes in their games, wtf is Microsoft doing? Haha, options are good.
I am honestly happy we got finally got a game that pushes the next-gen. We have seen too many mediocre AAA-releases lately.
Definitely
* current-gen 😉
"happy we got finally got"
@@v1kt0u5 Well yeah :D
Game isn't anything special
My only issue is how short the motion blurring is on 30fps. Basically feels like it’s not even there. A longer shutter speed would really help smooth that more out especially on things like your Ikran’s wings flapping.
Try the game on PC maybe. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@@Nucleosynthese Well yes, of course. My point is about consoles which lock the quality mode at 30fps, and what could be done to improve the fluidity of the visual experience.
I hope the flickering image artifacts on the Xbox will be fixed...
Especially in performance mode these are extremely annoying & disturbing
60fps is a must. The thing about Quality modes, even 40fps modes, is that they only look better when you’re standing still. Moving the camera and getting that stuttering ruins the image. I can’t imagine caring so much about a sharper still image, to where I’d be willing to give up such smoother gameplay.
The more I play the more this game grows on me.
I can't stop playing
Same
It's not reg avatar so I haveno Intrest
that’s what she said
sounds like stockholm syndrome (jk)
Snowdrop engine has built in VR support. I hope someone makes a VR mod for this soon.
VR mods are garbage and come with a ton of bugs not to mention bad performance. They dont even compare to official VR support
@@CheckmateStallioN yeah, but it's all we have, since the developers are too blind to see the demand for it
@@djp1234 one of the few games that got a decent VR mod was Ghostrunner. So at this point time will tell
@@CheckmateStallioN my favorite so far is the Luke Ross mod for Cyberpunk 2077. I could live in that game.
Tom delivers once again!
I am about 10 hours in so far on my Series S and it looks beautiful. They truly delivered next gen features on all consoles. Gameplay is fun too, especially when you unlock your ikran.
I can't believe how close the Series S version looks to the others. They did a great job.
You call this next Gen!?
@@MamaSymphonia Exactly, its also very impressive they retain both ray traced GI and reflections on Series S while a lot of developers skip ray tracing all together on the S.
I've personally played it on both Series S and PS5 - while the PS5 obviously does look better, it's unbelievable to me how amazing this game looks on the little Series S as well. Just an absolutely phenomenal job all around.
@@nathanpayne9205 i don't think it looks that great on PS5 either
Snowdrop engine is beautiful . Division 1&2 looks this beautiful to me
Gonna play in quality mode. Stable framerate is king.
This game is breathtaking. They did a fantastic job on this one.
i wish you'd do this for portable pcs (steam deck clones) too.
The bit rates on UA-cam these days are sooo bad you basically need to use the 4k mode unless you want crazy amounts artifacts.
Great job by Morgan as always, my fave at DF
It's missing bidirectional light transmission through the leaves, hence they look rather opaque. UE has that.
Snowdrop really amazed me in terms of quality and capability running the game on console. On my high end pc its just a graphical masterpiece. Game is good and they did an amazing job!
Looks like it could do with a 40fps mode.
Definitely. Every game should include a 40fps mode with how the consoles are handling new games now.
40 fps is barely playable even with VRR which reprojects the frames and in the process creates a burry image in motion. VRR might give you the illusion of smoother performance when in reality adds a shitload of blur effects and reprojection hiding the jittery frames but adding a ton of artifacts and blur which defeats the whole purpose. It barely feels smoother than 30 fps. A 10 fps difference is marginal. Both 30 and 40 feel choppy AF. Either 60 fps or GTFO
@@CheckmateStallioN I tested it out on the PC with VRR on an LG display, 40fps isn't that great, but 45fps feels very much like 60fps to me, it's remarkable how much of a difference that extra 5fps is actually doing to my eyes.
With that said, you can get away with 40fps on smaller displays like the Steam Deck, but on bigger displays, 45fps or above is more ideal.
@@CheckmateStallioN limiting fps at 40 is half the answer, it has to be at 120hz , 160hz and so on , so it displays evenly with consistent frame times.
@@mohthesage7673 yeah the 40fps mode on console games only unlocks with a screen 120hz or higher.
One thing I really like is how alive everything feels there bugs and little lizards things and birds everywhere its really cool.
This is so useful when it come to taking a chance on this game. I get so little time to game, this is invaluable ❤
I'm fairly impressed with how this turned out on series s which I normally am not. If I had boughten the system this would be worth a play
I'll wait from some further performance patches but It looks very good and seems pretty interesting overall.
If you have a VRR TV it's fine, the performance is incredibly smooth. TBH when they made the game I think they were expecting/hoping most have this feature (it has to be forced on via the PS5 system settings for this title though bizarrely before it's activated. On Xbox it activates naturally fine).
@@ultrag33k52 The vast majority of people doesn't have a VRR TV
LOVE this game. The exploration, gathering, crafting, etc are all so satisfying! I'm having a blast and I can't even fly yet!
I wish you would have touched the 2nd large area. I play on PC with a 4070 and had no issues at all in the jungle running with DLSS Quality at 1440p and ultra settings. As soon as reaching the great plains my fps fell of a cliff. Instead of 60-80 I dropped down to 40 at times. I switched to FSR3 with frame gen and reduce some shadow settings to stay above 60 fps. I would expect the consoles will struggle even more in that area.
Motion blur optional and FOV slider on console? Good game dev, have a treat.
Can't wait for 40 & 60fps being standard.
@SilverSurfer-mg6ti I think for single player 60 is fine. For slower paced single player stuff 40fps is also fine. But yeah with AMD's Frame Gen tech, 120fps converted from 60 should be totally feasible.
@@djayjp A ton of recent games have microstutter. That is the biggest thing I hope it fixes or at least dramatically reduces.
This game shows how important custom game engines are. Snowdrop is developed by the same team who makes games using it. Every feature game developers need can be implemented in the core of the engine.
To take full advantage of the hardware we need a close cooperation between low-level engine programmers, game designers and artists.
To achieve RT in 60 FPS at 1080+ resolution with such high quality assets, a specialized workflow has to be maintained.
This is almost impossible to achieve with Unity3D or Unreal Engine 5. Only most experienced teams are able to achieve similar results with general engines. However it takes so much effort that in-house engine would be a better choice anyway.
Similar to the horizon games and Guerilla‘s own engine.
I’m playing at the moment and loving it. I think it has more in common with the Horizon games than Far Cry.
Unfortunately I’ve got stuck with a bug on The Missing Hunter quest so I can’t carry on with the story until it’s fixed.
:(
Really? Not a fan of Far Cry games but... Those Horizon games are the most tedious things I can remember playing tbh
Tedious? Damn, mobile gaming for you then.
@arronstone177 I had a bug where the NCP didn't spawn, but reloading the save fixed it.
I was pretty bored by Horizon overall but this game is weirdly amazing!
It's not for everyone, the dumb ass overly sincere story and difficult to navigate world early on especially; but the combat, stealth, movement, crafting etc, all feels so much more thoughtful than any of the other open world games I've played, all of them pushing you to engage with the world they've built rather than just repeating the same thing that works until the next thing unlocks.
It's upsetting that Avatar of all properties gets the technically and mechanically great game.
@@BlackEagle352 mobile games?!?? Hardly. You're a million miles off there
Preordered this as I enjoy Far Cry / most Ubi games and love the Avatar films, I was not disappointed. Very fun game.
@all devs give us 40 fps option in every game. Like Spiderman or ratched.
Quality 40fps Mode ❤
Well time for me to buy it on Series X. You sold me well this game 😅
Love Thom’s videos!
I rarely play games on quality mode but as soon as I stepped out of the tunnel of the RDA facility I switched to quality mode and haven't switched back. This game visual spectacle is definitely worth the lower FPS, albeit with motion blur on.
Maybe try the PC version then. It’s even better looking and you get 60+fps quality mode 🤯
@@Nucleosynthese Why do you copy and paste your comment everywhere?
It really is an astonishing-looking game. I've been playing on PC and it just looks fantastic, even with a 6700xt. Just had to figure out that the game defaulted to a weird refresh rate (well, 120hz seems normal, but 119.84 was the correct, and available option) and switching to that removed any stuttering I had. All in all I'm absolutely amazed the resolution the consoles are pushing here too.
Oh, and it's pretty fun to boot, even as someone who has zero interest in the movies after seeing the first one in theaters.
I have a VRR oled display and the game looks great on PS5 and for the most part feels pretty smooth however it seems to drop out if the VRR range a little too often during intense fire fights which makes it a little jarring. Hopefully a patch cleans this up then it'll be perfect. Feel too many games rely on VRR cleaning up their performance modes.
Definitely has more of a Crysis feel than it does Far Cry. Glad I’m not the only one thinking that. I’ve been playing this game non stop on PS5 in Performance mode with a 120Hz 2.1 monitor and it’s breathtakingly beautiful. I wish Photo Mode was a bit more fleshed out though.
Loving this game so far and have been playing on quality mode without even questioning it 😂 it’s smooth and feels good. Looks like performance isn’t worth trying out, I find unstable frame rates way more distracting than a solid lower frame rate.
This runs at 70-80fps @ 1440 on my X13 Flow and mobile 3080 with full ultra settings. Such a well optimised engine.
Mmmm in benchs i saw much lower fps
yeahhh I dont keep 80 fps on ultra and I am on a desktop 4070ti...@@silverwerewolf975
Thank you amd for making this game runs great and looks great on PC and console.
Sounds like this game needs a couple of updates before I purchase it. Either way, it’s on my radar.
Excellent breakdown. I was going to wait to see how it performed on PS5 before buying but my impatience got the better of me.
It’s absolutely stunning, the kind of graphical prowess that differentiates the last gen with the current. We need more experiences like this, even if it is limited by the generic Ubisoft formula. A very impressive showing from Snowdrop, and even more so from the Series S. Despite its limitations it’s proving to be a cracking console for those on a budget.
The best release this year and it's December...
It looks perfect, it works nearly perfect and the open world and the atmosphere is a most wanted for all Avatar fans.
I thought for sure this would have performance issues on launch. I am very impressed.
The fact that the Series S costs 250$ rn with discount and can run games like this is crazy!
Yes and the XSX now at $350 is even crazier! Keep in mind that it's also a UHD player so it's a steal for that price if you ask me. I got both the S and X along with a Panny B820 which alone is around $400-$500.
Indeed it is but tbh I’d rather pay a little more for the better versions from the more powerful consoles.
When it can run games like this at 20 fps 720p I wouldn't call that crazy
"runs"
Now compare that to the cost of any single PC component, the performance per dollar of consoles is insane.
@UbisoftMassiveEntertainment: Feature Request: Please add a separate 40 fps (quality) mode for 120 Hz displays (as done in Horizon Forbidden West, Hogwarts Legacy, Ratchet & Clank: Rift Apart, and Spider-Man games). With the 30 fps mode having stable performance, hopefully such a 40 fps mode won't require too many cutbacks in quality and resolution.
Really had someone on another video trying to tell me the graphics in this game weren't anything special and that it looks no better than far cry. I swear so many gamers nowadays are just spoiled and blind. This game looks absolutely incredible, every time I play it I find myself just stopping in places and just looking at the scenery.
It's social media rewarding negative comments.
I might have been tempted with the quality mode if the motion blur were better, but I've stuck to performance and I'm pretty happy with it in most cases.
Now this is a good looking game
Woo hoo! A review by Thomas! This game looks amazing too
Series S saved! This looks seriously good for this little machine
Are we looking at the same thing? It looks like a blurry mess
I'd have to disagree on that one.
Graphics look good but the mechanics are complete Trash just play the then find out
@@andremostert8630all look like a blurry mess
720p at 30fps. You are hopeless.
I haven’t seen a game this beautiful since Horizon Forbidden West. The world is soooo full of life.
I don't care what people say, this is my personal GOTY and one of my favorite games I've ever played.
🤣
@@MetalDeathHeadyou can't afford it
@@Elemental-l9iyou sure showed him with that comment. He'll never recover from that, good one. Well done
Thank you, I prefer 30 fps quality on PS5. Becaus of its optimisation it feels like 40-45 fps for me and is the best deal...
Series X with VRR on is the winner here ! On my LG C1 65inch its georgeous !
I was happily playing Avatar: Frontiers of Pandora on my RTX 4080 PC at 60fps, when not a while into a 40 minute gameplay, a pop-up window appeared with Linus Sebastians face and a warning was displayed. "You are a loser "freak", Gamers who play at 60fps need to be shot . "I only game on systems and monitors with 950fps and above". Well, as you can imagine, I was totally shocked. I was having an enjoyable time playing the game Avatar, much like other PC games on my system albeit at 60fps, I don't understand why I'm hated for not having a 989fps VRR display, only having a 60hz OLED. Does me proud, or is that now the wrong thing to say.
I’m having a great time on PC. My only real complaint is that it’s not on Steam.
seems like a small complaint, the game is still the game steam or epic, i hate steams' dumb ass posts even in the library tab
@@XZ-III for me it's more a matter of convenience to have all games in one place. That said, I don't really care where the game is, as long as I can play it. Battle Net and Steam are always open on my pc, and I open the others when I need them. Not a big deal imo.
60fps with Ray tracing enabled including reflections, and global illumination lighting on a $399 to $499 dollar console with this level of graphics is quite impressive and goes to show that when devs put forth the effort at max optimization they can really push these new Console far past what they should theoretically be capable of and this game is probably the greatest example of that to date
Sub 1080p lmao ! Next-gen right ?
4k gaming!!
I love this game. And I'm very happy I got the Ultimate edition!
As always UA-cam compression is ruining things. It's especially noticeable in games with heavy dense foliage and detail like this, it was also a huge problem for Forza Horizon 5.
Horizon 5 doesn’t look great.
I just can't get over how much the foliage sways for no reason.
It can't possibly be that windy constantly.
Do you have the game or just basing this of videos you have seen. Not like that at all for me.
Nearly every game I've played constantly has swaying foliage and trees which is totally unrealistic. I know not all games are trying to be realistic but for me it's a strange design choice.
It must be very windy in video game world.
Thank god you picked up on the Xbox breakup issue, it’s horrendous when in full sun, especially on trees. At times most of the foliage is flickering from pixels to foliage it’s jarring.
Oh and you missed the bug where if you restore from quick resume it revers to fidelity mode 😑 I have to keep changing it back to performance.
it's truly impressive how visual technology is making such gorgeous games run great on consoles.
Getting this for Christmas and I'm so ready for it... on PS5
Hope there'll be an FSR3 patch for this beauty
Would love a 40fps mode.
Great review. I'm running on a C1 Xbox x. I've noticed a little bit of the same but it's still a gorgeous game
We need pro consoles. No way gta 6 will be 60fps on console. It’ll be 1440p 30fps at this rate. Idk how games look only slightly better than they did last gen and yet run hella worse. 800p in 2023 is crazy.
Series S be touching 720p lol
Snowdrop is such a powerful engine. Whether it be this game, The Division or the Rabbids games on the Switch, it's nuts to see the visuals it can deliver.
In a perfect world Snowdrop would've replaced Unreal Engine.
This is what I was hoping ark ascended would look like and I have to say quality mode on series X is fantastic. It doesn’t even feel like 30fps
Incredible game, really feels like Pandora. Well done Ubisoft, give us a sequel set in the oceans
Eh, I think the 30 fps does feel exactly like 30 fps. Try playing on the 60 fps mode for a couple hours and then go back to 30 fps mode. You will notice a big difference.
studio is called Massive not Ubisoft. They're just owned by Ubi
Anyone else have weird HDR behavior on PS5? On my C1 all the shadows get raised like crazy, the highlights look great but blacks are super raised and it kills the contrast.
Today I will beat the game I'm at 95% story completion.. this game is beautiful. !!! Wish I had a gaming PC for this game honestly. It's the new crisis " can it run avatar 😂"
Alan Wake and Cyberpunk are good contenders too. But yeah, this is a great one
wow the FSR breakup fizzle is egregious in this
40 fps mode would be lovely
I know I'm in the minority, but I almost always opt for quality over performance when I have a choice. 60 fps is great, but a lot of games can't quite hit that number, and I'd always trade the framerate when I can get visuals like these.
IMO the water reflections are very bad on console version in perf mode :/
Vaseline!!!!! But I think I’ll go with Quality mode more
I hv an LG C1 55 inch Oled looker. Gonna stick to Quality mode all the way for best and most highest possible immersion on PS5 😍 Mostly a stealth player anyways in Farcry style games which this pretty much is with Avatar skin. Might as well enjoy the best possible optimization available on my machine 😍😍 Will switch to easily enjoy VRR enabled Performance mode for Platinum trophy mop ups.