Mr. Wilson this is the husband watching, for some reason I seemed to have enjoyed listening as my mind just stayed still. As my better half has mentioned to you I'm a retired builder ( working hands on builder that is ) and this was very soothing to hear your voice and explanation. You have fantastic articulation skills, similar to an educator, keep up the great talking points & materials, we all learn more things as we get older. Truth be known, I know less today in my 60's as I did in my 20"s at that age I could have answered anybody's question. Not so much these days however... Cheers to you sir.
Thank you for the kind words. I am happy to have you and your wife watching and appreciate your comments. The older I get the more I realize I know less than I thought I did when I was younger.
Valuable experimentation for these times. In the New Era, I do believe boards will be sawed with some consideration for warp, dried in the proper constraints, then rapidly assembled into home components and installed in place. Educated to learn to remain straight. Then there is always the rebel with a life circumstance or a mind of their own to warp.
I was installing beveled Cedar siding last summer and the guy at Tyee Cedar lumber said to prime both sides of the wood before installing. That was a great idea as the bundle when undone you could almost see the wood twist a bit before I had all the planks primed. When we put it down with nails and put flashing under the butt with a 1/16 gap. The side of the house that we replaced came out great I am glad the lumber guy told me to prime both sides before installation. It pays to pay a little extra sometimes to get good information.
I’ve been keeping up with your experiment series. Thank you for showing us you work through these ideas and showing the results for those who haven’t done this, such as myself. I’ve always heard this is how you straighten wood but it was nice to see proof. I’ve got a couple boards that needs a good straightening.
Very nice videos - I stumbled upon your first video by accident and then followed through all of them in the series. Very well done and thanks for sharing. One request - please add this one to the playlist as it only has the first 3. I searched for this on your channel. Also when you do a follow up with those remaining boards can you please also add them in the playlist. Thank you.
In UK here…bought a dozen 3x2 from our local ‘Big box store’…Wickes. They delivered them to my home and a third of all those they chose for my shipment were significantly crooked or bowed. Not happy with Wickes. Next time I will pick them out and sharpie my name on them in store.
In school I learned there is a certain way to cut a tree depending on the grain to make sure it was going to be functioning correctly for whatever it was used for. And a Small Town Hardware in lumber store I bought wood for the seats of my picnic table it is so warped and ridiculous I don't know what to do
I worked in a woodshop years ago that did a lot of resawn lumber. We ripped a lot of 2x4s and 2x6s down to 1x4/6s (truckloads a day) I've seen beautiful perfectly straight lumber twist like a noodle as it came off the saw, usually in multiple directions.
I live in Northern-Europe= Estonia. I appreciate your videos! And very interesting videos! Could you do some tests on White Oak vs. Red Oak? Strength, weatherproof, etc
Probably not. These are just for experimenting with. They are weathered and moldy and I have plenty of fresh cut Douglas fir to use. I thought they might move at least a little more too.
I think the issue you may be having is one side of the wood is exposed and the other side is on the ground. Kind of like burning wood. If you only expose one side it will offset the moisture balance ion the wood and it will always warp in that direction.
Thanks for the suggestion. I may someday. I am using a Rode Wireless Go II. With a Rode Go lav mic. A simple setup with a SC15 cable to connect to an IPhone.
No I haven’t noticed any termites. We usually only get termites here if wood is in contact with the ground for an extended period. Which I usually don’t do around the mill. I occasionally find them at the bottom of firewood piles if the wood has been sitting on the ground for a while.
The only likely way a thin board like that could have invisible tension is perfectly widthwise. But they weren't like that to begin with, they were showing the tension flagrantly by twisting. So how was that supposed to happen? It's like people imagine gremlins in there. When you 'reset' them to as-cut moisture and dried them under pressure, consider what happened. The fibers deformed somewhat. My prediction is that you would see some movement as you re-moisten, ending up evenly moist and flat, and a lot of movement when drying again without restraint. Less so if some fibers were permanently buckled or snapped.
so i had to go back to the other video to find mr. obvious in the comments. as i read through all the comments i saw that you may have 'straightened' a few people out with this video
Getting off the subject a bit... I take it your Farley pleased with your Farmi skidder... haven't heard you complain... Trying to find one in the Midwest isn't easy ... Is the ol Massey about 80hp. ??? An that is a 501 isn't it ???
Yes very pleased. The winch is over 30 years old. I only recently had to do a little work on it. Replaced some bearings. Simple to do an easy to get from the manufacturer. The tractor has been very reliable for around the same time since we’ve had it. An MF30 Industrial. A quick search says 61 hp.
I’m not so sure; sometimes I think it’s dependent on the size of the tree and how close to the heartwood the plank is (I’m assuming plain sawn, not quarter sawn). I’ve had unprotected flat stock cup after a rain; the growth rings were widely spread, and the cupping was in the direction of the tree’s core, regardless of whether the rain fell on a surface with the rings pointing up or down.
I threw crooked 2x4's in the back of an old truck bed w/ the tailgate up....after a few weeks in the rain they straighten up. Been doing it ever since. Happy accident
My father was Mr. Obvious, which makes me Mr. Obvious II, and I knew that wetting boards would straighten them (since they weren't cut and stacked correctly). I also know that your next 10 videos will be about trees, (cutting, gathering, milling), interspersed with cringy dad jokes, witty observations, and trick videography. I intend to watch them to prove myself correct and for gist of further obvious comments.
Mr. Wilson this is the husband watching, for some reason I seemed to have enjoyed listening as my mind just stayed still. As my better half has mentioned to you I'm a retired builder ( working hands on builder that is ) and this was very soothing to hear your voice and explanation. You have fantastic articulation skills, similar to an educator, keep up the great talking points & materials, we all learn more things as we get older. Truth be known, I know less today in my 60's as I did in my 20"s at that age I could have answered anybody's question. Not so much these days however... Cheers to you sir.
Thank you for the kind words. I am happy to have you and your wife watching and appreciate your comments. The older I get the more I realize I know less than I thought I did when I was younger.
Thank you Mr. Wilson, I never get board watching your videos.
😂 I usually get more than one board when I am working with the mill. 😁
Valuable experimentation for these times. In the New Era, I do believe boards will be sawed with some consideration for warp, dried in the proper constraints, then rapidly assembled into home components and installed in place. Educated to learn to remain straight. Then there is always the rebel with a life circumstance or a mind of their own to warp.
I was installing beveled Cedar siding last summer and the guy at Tyee Cedar lumber said to prime both sides of the wood before installing. That was a great idea as the bundle when undone you could almost see the wood twist a bit before I had all the planks primed. When we put it down with nails and put flashing under the butt with a 1/16 gap. The side of the house that we replaced came out great I am glad the lumber guy told me to prime both sides before installation. It pays to pay a little extra sometimes to get good information.
interesting and entertaining at the same time. A fine sense of humor. :) Thanks.
Mr. obvious with the touch of John Wayne I like it
It wasn’t originally supposed to be John Wayne, it just came out that way so I went with it. 😁
I’ve been keeping up with your experiment series. Thank you for showing us you work through these ideas and showing the results for those who haven’t done this, such as myself. I’ve always heard this is how you straighten wood but it was nice to see proof. I’ve got a couple boards that needs a good straightening.
You’re a delight to watch. Great humor. Great attitude. Great content. 👏🏻
Thank you, kind of you to say.
Home Depot needs you.
Mr. obvious that’s a good one, funny😅
Very nice videos - I stumbled upon your first video by accident and then followed through all of them in the series. Very well done and thanks for sharing. One request - please add this one to the playlist as it only has the first 3. I searched for this on your channel. Also when you do a follow up with those remaining boards can you please also add them in the playlist. Thank you.
I intended to add it but I must have forgot. Thank you for the reminder and the comment.
In UK here…bought a dozen 3x2 from our local ‘Big box store’…Wickes. They delivered them to my home and a third of all those they chose for my shipment were significantly crooked or bowed. Not happy with Wickes. Next time I will pick them out and sharpie my name on them in store.
Your dedication to this topic is impressive
In school I learned there is a certain way to cut a tree depending on the grain to make sure it was going to be functioning correctly for whatever it was used for. And a Small Town Hardware in lumber store I bought wood for the seats of my picnic table it is so warped and ridiculous I don't know what to do
very informative
What happens if you get it wet and dry it with heavy things on top so it stays flat. Will it stay flat?
I worked in a woodshop years ago that did a lot of resawn lumber. We ripped a lot of 2x4s and 2x6s down to 1x4/6s (truckloads a day) I've seen beautiful perfectly straight lumber twist like a noodle as it came off the saw, usually in multiple directions.
I live in Northern-Europe= Estonia. I appreciate your videos!
And very interesting videos!
Could you do some tests on White Oak vs. Red Oak?
Strength, weatherproof, etc
Rocky is very wise! Well dun!👍
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Cool stuff Wilson
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Thanks for sharing your time, interesting video
Thank you, I appreciate the comment.
Great experiment on the Mill!
Flat and straight enough to use in the cabin; (Mr. O notwithstanding...)
Cheers from (a foggy) Linn County
Cheers from an also foggy Multnomah county this week.
Thanks for the videos
Very interesting outcome. I did expect a little more movement than was witnessed. So are you going to use those even more even boards on that cabin?
Probably not. These are just for experimenting with. They are weathered and moldy and I have plenty of fresh cut Douglas fir to use. I thought they might move at least a little more too.
Lol i would luv to meet that squirel of yours ! He cracks me up 😂
I'm feel the same way. I want to see how they come out
We will have to wait for some rain to see how the others turn out.
@@WilsonForestLands right. I hope that y'all have a merry Christmas
I think the issue you may be having is one side of the wood is exposed and the other side is on the ground. Kind of like burning wood. If you only expose one side it will offset the moisture balance ion the wood and it will always warp in that direction.
Nice experiment.. I have been watching back videos..
Your "Mr. Obvious" comment made me laugh..🤣🤣
Some comments I just have to find ways to laugh at them.
Will it work with hardwood? It's much denser. This may change things. Don't cut much pine in my area.
If you would, could you show us you audio to video setup. I really like the way it sounds.
Thanks for the suggestion. I may someday. I am using a Rode Wireless Go II. With a Rode Go lav mic. A simple setup with a SC15 cable to connect to an IPhone.
There are claims, that some keeping in water wash out chertain sticky substance. After that woodware remains less warpy.
How long did u leave boards on trailer (under weight of off-cuts) ?
Question to Mr. Obvious. How to you make a video about bend boards if one doesn’t have bend boards?
Now this is going to be interesting !! 😂
If they don’t do anything interesting, I will have to figure out how to make something not interesting, interesting.
@@WilsonForestLands
Anything is interesting 😂😂😂
Hope you and your family have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
Do you get termite issues with your wood or around your mill?
No I haven’t noticed any termites. We usually only get termites here if wood is in contact with the ground for an extended period. Which I usually don’t do around the mill. I occasionally find them at the bottom of firewood piles if the wood has been sitting on the ground for a while.
The only likely way a thin board like that could have invisible tension is perfectly widthwise. But they weren't like that to begin with, they were showing the tension flagrantly by twisting. So how was that supposed to happen? It's like people imagine gremlins in there.
When you 'reset' them to as-cut moisture and dried them under pressure, consider what happened. The fibers deformed somewhat. My prediction is that you would see some movement as you re-moisten, ending up evenly moist and flat, and a lot of movement when drying again without restraint. Less so if some fibers were permanently buckled or snapped.
I'm surprised they didn't wrap.
Now if we can just figure out a way to straighten my warped mind🤔
Let me know if you figure out how.
Good video, Dude. (I thought your name was Michael)
It is but my name can vary some from time to time depending on what kind of things I do.
7:00 I think you should be making thinner planks, not narrower ones.
so i had to go back to the other video to find mr. obvious in the comments. as i read through all the comments i saw that you may have 'straightened' a few people out with this video
If only people were as easy to straighten out as boards. I can think of a few I would like to soak and leave out to dry.
😂i bet i have a bigger list of people, fully understand!@@WilsonForestLands
by the way i plan to use your 'straightening' technique next time i (chainsaw) mill and dry some lumber. thanks!
Getting off the subject a bit...
I take it your Farley pleased with your Farmi skidder... haven't heard you complain...
Trying to find one in the Midwest isn't easy ...
Is the ol Massey about 80hp. ???
An that is a 501 isn't it ???
Yes very pleased. The winch is over 30 years old. I only recently had to do a little work on it. Replaced some bearings. Simple to do an easy to get from the manufacturer. The tractor has been very reliable for around the same time since we’ve had it. An MF30 Industrial. A quick search says 61 hp.
i predict that the board in the rain will dry warped do to the top surface being exposed more directly to rain and sunshine.
That could be. It might be good to flip it a time or two to get even results.
I’m not so sure; sometimes I think it’s dependent on the size of the tree and how close to the heartwood the plank is (I’m assuming plain sawn, not quarter sawn).
I’ve had unprotected flat stock cup after a rain; the growth rings were widely spread, and the cupping was in the direction of the tree’s core, regardless of whether the rain fell on a surface with the rings pointing up or down.
Tagliatelle
I threw crooked 2x4's in the back of an old truck bed w/ the tailgate up....after a few weeks in the rain they straighten up. Been doing it ever since. Happy accident
Who has hair to wet and warp?
I still have a little left and certainly not improving the older I get.
My father was Mr. Obvious, which makes me Mr. Obvious II, and I knew that wetting boards would straighten them (since they weren't cut and stacked correctly). I also know that your next 10 videos will be about trees, (cutting, gathering, milling), interspersed with cringy dad jokes, witty observations, and trick videography. I intend to watch them to prove myself correct and for gist of further obvious comments.
You'll just prove how much of a douche you are.