On the Wrist, from off the Cuff: Citizen - NB1060-12L, A Compelling Grand Seiko SBGW275 Alternative

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  • Опубліковано 10 січ 2025

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  • @Gary-li7ib
    @Gary-li7ib 2 роки тому +28

    So yet again, Mark is responsible for me buying another watch. What a stunner! I'm going to have to unsubscribe soon, my wallet can't handle it!

  • @tywinn5786
    @tywinn5786 2 роки тому +12

    I am blown away by the overall value of this Citizen! Beautiful piece that’s a hidden gem 💎.

  • @BoozewithNick
    @BoozewithNick 2 роки тому +21

    Wow, never thought I’d see a dial like that on a Citizen. That really is a broadside at Grand Seiko, and remarkably successful. Also nice to see Citizen taking advantage of the fact that they- you know- own Miyota. Nothing against the Eco-Drives, they’re like a super-quartz- but it’s nice seeing a high-quality automatic from them.

  • @andrewhannam.
    @andrewhannam. 2 роки тому +9

    Wow Citizen like Bulova are really brining out some very impressive automatic pieces. The dial is stunning look at the NB3020-16W green version, 24hr sub dial and power reserve.

  • @miliusrex11
    @miliusrex11 2 роки тому +12

    The gray suede from B&R Bands was a terrific selection for that Citizen.

  • @brentwhite9712
    @brentwhite9712 9 місяців тому +2

    Superb, this should have a worldwide release!

  • @michaelbradley6488
    @michaelbradley6488 2 роки тому +5

    Really pretty watch, love it, on the gray strap. I like the white date wheel on this, we all have opinions, I think Citizen knocked this one out of the park.

  • @welcomewrist
    @welcomewrist 2 роки тому +6

    I might have to purchase one now. Great video as always!

  • @Mr_Santo5
    @Mr_Santo5 2 роки тому +3

    Amazing value for a watch with a hand painted dial and 9011 movement.

  • @jhrodriguez08
    @jhrodriguez08 2 роки тому +4

    That dial is mental, I just ordered a Direnzo Mondial V2 (red) and Seiko SPB297 if it wasn’t because those two this would be a nice addition

  • @ah.l
    @ah.l 2 роки тому +5

    Nice combination of colors.

  • @link4444swords
    @link4444swords 2 роки тому +4

    Now that's one impressive dial. Definitely looks galactic and a good budget GS alternative.

  • @ozmondos
    @ozmondos 2 роки тому +8

    I think this dial is superior to any Seiko Presage out there, if Grand Seiko released a watch with this dial it would be an instant hit. If it wasn't for the date function, nothing would be stopping me from getting it.

  • @charlescalvert8273
    @charlescalvert8273 2 роки тому +4

    Stunning looker.

  • @Freco1967
    @Freco1967 2 роки тому +1

    Now THAT is a dial! Quite beautiful and pairs very nicely with the gray strap.

  • @777soul56
    @777soul56 2 роки тому +2

    I'm a sucker for a 38mm sports/dress watch! Totally on the radar!

  • @balesjo
    @balesjo 2 роки тому +1

    This is a watch that is definitely on my list. Your video has the best views of this beautiful blue-green silver-leaf lacquer dial which is very competitive with Seiko Presage dials (their lacquer dial offerings are beautiful but a flat laquer compared to this textured lacquer dial). This shows that Citizen is very capable of manufacturing watches with amazing dials and not simply over-complicated dial sports/utility watches. They keep this up and they could give the Seiko Presage line some definite competition!

  • @MrBacchus18
    @MrBacchus18 Рік тому

    I keep coming back to this video, I think I have to buy this soon

  • @genghiskhan7041
    @genghiskhan7041 Рік тому +1

    It's got a beautiful dial. Citizen makes great watches.

  • @MrFumiste
    @MrFumiste 2 роки тому +3

    Gorgeous watch ! thanks for the review !

  • @choond
    @choond 2 роки тому +2

    That's a beautiful dial

  • @mosytube
    @mosytube 2 роки тому +3

    Beauty! Would love to see drilled lugs on this

  • @PaoYong
    @PaoYong Рік тому

    This is such a thorough review, amazing.

  • @TimothyW8
    @TimothyW8 2 роки тому +4

    It looks like the entire earth is sitting inside the watch. Wish it came on a bracelet, I’d buy it very quickly

    • @jaer.6540
      @jaer.6540 2 роки тому +2

      Nb105 bracelets fit on here fwiw

    • @TimothyW8
      @TimothyW8 2 роки тому +2

      @@jaer.6540 another watch that I want. This is getting expensive 😂

  • @JackJob
    @JackJob 2 роки тому +2

    Wow, wont see that one at the mall

  • @jaer.6540
    @jaer.6540 2 роки тому +7

    The NB10xxx line is really impressive
    Should have taken the date away for these nb106's tho....or at the very least color matched it.

  • @RTree613
    @RTree613 2 роки тому +1

    I saw on another video that said the duratech was harder than the seiko diashield coating. I'm going to have to look into that. Great piece!

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому

      Wouldn't be surprised, I may have been thinking of a different hard coat comparison

  • @scotthayes2652
    @scotthayes2652 2 роки тому +3

    If they just sold these types of watch over in UK the brand reputation would change so quickly. But hey I am ok ordering from Japan and keeping these on the 🤐

  • @ampdrum1
    @ampdrum1 2 роки тому +1

    How about the nb2000-19a? I have the 1050-59a and love it. Plus a Promaster diver with 8204. The 19a is going for under $500 on JOS. Please review!

  • @Zer0.-_
    @Zer0.-_ 2 роки тому +1

    Never been a Citizen guy, but this is quite a beautiful piece.

  • @brianhafemann7907
    @brianhafemann7907 2 роки тому +2

    I like this watch more than the Seiko sary085! Better size, movement, and it has ar coating!

  • @ozmondos
    @ozmondos 2 роки тому +2

    I wish it didn't have a date, then nothing would be stopping me from getting this.

    • @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p
      @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p 9 місяців тому

      Nobody is going to notice the date with that dial

    • @ozmondos
      @ozmondos 9 місяців тому

      @@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p It didn't stop me from getting it, the dial is amazing! I don't mind the date for symmetry like others do. I just don't like setting it up every time I wear it.

  • @eric21881
    @eric21881 Рік тому

    Also sold me one of their straps
    But I’m gonna try the aqua one instead of the grey

  • @lulul
    @lulul 2 роки тому +3

    as far as i know citizen's scratch resistant coating is way better than what seiko does.. there is a graph somewhere on the internet that compares these..

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому

      I wouldn't be surprised, I was probably thinking of a different hardening comparison

  • @eric21881
    @eric21881 Рік тому

    Okay I’ve had my b&r band like a day and I gotta say I appreciate the recommendation
    Got the aqua one for this watch.
    The most expensive band I’ve bought so far but definitely worth it
    May not be my always go to answer but I’m sure I’ll be buying again

    • @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p
      @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p 9 місяців тому

      You don't watch to match your dial with your strap

    • @eric21881
      @eric21881 9 місяців тому

      @@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p okay but I did and I like it

  • @eric21881
    @eric21881 Рік тому

    Mine came in today
    It’s awesome

  • @juniorjohnson5961
    @juniorjohnson5961 2 роки тому +3

    I wish they had a nice Logo instead of the citizen name on the dial i think it would look much better.

    • @CsabaSulyok42
      @CsabaSulyok42 2 роки тому +1

      They do: the eagle logo comes on the 10x more expensive The Citizen line. Other than the logo it's hard to tell the difference :)

    • @juniorjohnson5961
      @juniorjohnson5961 2 роки тому

      @@CsabaSulyok42 I've seen them IMO looks better & the CITIZEN name kinda evokes cheaper watches .

  • @watchroll3310
    @watchroll3310 2 роки тому +1

    Beautiful watch great video. Just want to clarify they always get Super titanium wrong. No is not just a coating and seikos coating is not harder. Super titanium duratec has a process where works the titanium itself to be harder and on top of that it has also a treatment. Seiko does not make anything as hard as this and Duratec alpha is the hardest material used in the watch industry close to a few competitors such as sinns tegemented steel.

  • @Sneka97
    @Sneka97 2 роки тому +4

    It looks amazing but for a dress watch 12mm thickness is definitely too much for me. Maybe a manual wind would have looked and fit better for it?

    • @scotthayes2652
      @scotthayes2652 2 роки тому +2

      Looks like a few mm could be shaved off the shape of the case back.

    • @SaSpursFan
      @SaSpursFan 2 роки тому +2

      I hear you but to me this is not purely a dress watch. More of a go anywhere do anything daily wear watch like a sarb or explorer which has some sporty things to it

  • @eric21881
    @eric21881 Рік тому +1

    Also I consider no lume on this style of watch to be a plus
    A case where a spec or feature detracts from the design
    It’s really good like this so stop
    Same for my sarx057
    All about a killer dial with some real nice finishing and sharp transitions and some good high polishing
    Tactful and classy

  • @roybatty6368
    @roybatty6368 2 роки тому +1

    wow. Why can't they sell this here?

  • @EgeSoykan17384
    @EgeSoykan17384 Рік тому

    Bu 9011 mekanizmalı saatin rotoru tek yönde mi kurma yapıyor yoksa çift yönde mi bu konuya kimse değinmemiş

  • @currypuff
    @currypuff 2 роки тому +4

    2 things that annoy me: unsigned crown and 19mm lug. Aside from these.. it's perfect.

  • @L.A.C_Santos
    @L.A.C_Santos 2 роки тому +1

    Very nice

  • @tacohans2262
    @tacohans2262 2 роки тому +1

    I noticed it doesnt have Made in Japan on the dial like the nb1050🤔

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +4

      says it on the case back, check Grand Seiko dials, they don't say it either, doesn't mean they're not Made in Japan, not the same as 'Swiss Made' standards or practices

    • @denisdaly1708
      @denisdaly1708 2 роки тому

      Ya it says that it is made on japan on the dial.. have a closer look

  • @paulli4494
    @paulli4494 2 роки тому +3

    How would this compare to the white dial variant? Which one do you prefer, ignoring the price difference?

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +3

      The white is more subtle and feels a bit more grown up, while the blue is more vibrant and fun, I wanted to like the white more but I'm more excited to wear the blue.

  • @zogzog1063
    @zogzog1063 2 роки тому +1

    Is there a 40 - 41 mm option?

    • @kamasu4222
      @kamasu4222 2 роки тому +1

      Thank God there isn't, sarx for that.

  • @dwilfred923
    @dwilfred923 2 роки тому

    Hi Mark! I have the sarb033 and fits me well on my 6.25in wrist. Do you think i will be able to pull this off?

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +1

      These do wear slightly larger than the SARB, so tough to say, more of a personal preference really

  • @Emerrege
    @Emerrege 2 роки тому

    Limited edition?

  • @Rikki-Tikki-Tavi
    @Rikki-Tikki-Tavi 2 роки тому +1

    Screw down crown and case back?

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +1

      push/pull crown, screw down caseback

  • @beyond36horology
    @beyond36horology 2 роки тому +2

    If you go on Seiya and look for this watch, there is a comment stating that the indices are not aligned.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +1

      they're aligned fine on both of the NB1060's I purchased from Sakura

    • @WeibenWang
      @WeibenWang 2 роки тому +2

      Aligned to what? It says "ring index, bezel index, and face index are not well aligned," which doesn't make sense. There's no ring or bezel index. I think it's a generic statement for people who complain about divers.

    • @beyond36horology
      @beyond36horology 2 роки тому

      @@WeibenWang I can't post a screen grab here, but on the other website, the comment/note says "chapter ring index, bezel index, and face index are not well aligned.

    • @beyond36horology
      @beyond36horology 2 роки тому

      @@WeibenWang I think you are right. It could be a comment left in from another watch (wink wink)

    • @matthewtan9649
      @matthewtan9649 2 роки тому

      There is no chapter ring or dive bezel for it to be misaligned

  • @dspserpico
    @dspserpico 2 роки тому +2

    Citizen is finally coming after Seiko by making non-ugly watches.

  • @makenomistake_mynameisjeff8731
    @makenomistake_mynameisjeff8731 2 роки тому +1

    Worth the $250 more than a nb1050?

    • @CsabaSulyok42
      @CsabaSulyok42 2 роки тому

      If you don't need loom, neither the sunburst effect. Basically paying 60-80% more for a paper dial, doomed glass and dolphin hands. Otherwise exact same as the NB1050-59 that I own.

  • @joelmoore3804
    @joelmoore3804 2 роки тому

    Does anyone know if you have to pay any duties or fees when ordering from Sakura?

  • @ah.l
    @ah.l 2 роки тому +1

    Also take some watch from seriouswatches channel

  • @joeloi9043
    @joeloi9043 Рік тому +1

    I like the strap

  • @VectorAero
    @VectorAero Рік тому

    That date window ruins that mesmerizing dial IMO. I'd love this watch even more if it had no date window.

  • @EgeSoykan17384
    @EgeSoykan17384 2 роки тому

    Bombeli camları severim ancak kenarlardan çok taşmış keşke biraz daha içerde olsaymış… indexler yansıma yapıyor…

  • @ConvicTech
    @ConvicTech Рік тому +1

    Great dial but too small

  • @cedarcanoe
    @cedarcanoe 2 роки тому +2

    Citizen had the potential to get on the Grand Seiko level of quality

    • @grinniejax6105
      @grinniejax6105 2 роки тому +7

      "The Citizen" & "Chronomaster" lines already do.

    • @WeibenWang
      @WeibenWang 2 роки тому +1

      Close, but not quite. I have both a Chronomaster and a Grand Seiko. Grand Seiko is still a step up in fit, finish, and design. But only one step. Chronomasters are also a good bit cheaper.

    • @liquidtunes
      @liquidtunes 2 роки тому

      @@WeibenWang Mind sharing what you consider a step up? I have GS, been looking at getting a Chronomaster. The price is lovely 😊

    • @WeibenWang
      @WeibenWang 2 роки тому

      Hard to say without seeing. Grand Seiko designs are a bit more refined, and striking. Citizen doesn't have anything iconic like the 44GS case, or the range of interesting dials. Washi paper is as far as they go. And they're finishing isn't quite as finely done, just a tad on the chintzy side in comparison. But Chronomasters have a lot going for them, so if you like a design, go for it.

    • @liquidtunes
      @liquidtunes 2 роки тому

      @@WeibenWang thanks! I got a sense of the differences.

  • @Hitngan
    @Hitngan 2 роки тому

    I would buy if it had a stainless steel strap

  • @flamabl1
    @flamabl1 5 місяців тому

    lol, hilarious if you commenters think that is comparable to a Grand Seiko. Different universe.

  • @jhrodriguez08
    @jhrodriguez08 2 роки тому +1

    I recommend this bracelet for this watch here : ua-cam.com/video/R0ndQT2_mYQ/v-deo.html

  • @technoboy21
    @technoboy21 2 роки тому +6

    This is probably the worst watch strap I've ever seen. Mate, you just murdered this watch with it.

    • @caligulasen
      @caligulasen 2 роки тому

      IDD IT;S Terrible ugly

    • @jeff__w
      @jeff__w 2 роки тому +1

      I thought so, too.

    • @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p
      @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p 9 місяців тому

      In what way is grey suede ugly? It's as neutral as it gets

    • @technoboy21
      @technoboy21 9 місяців тому

      @@AndreiGeorgescu-j9p since when "natural" inevitably means beautiful?

    • @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p
      @AndreiGeorgescu-j9p 8 місяців тому

      @@technoboy21 I said neutral. Are you dumb

  • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
    @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 2 роки тому +2

    It needs and in fact should have a bracelet for that money.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +4

      tons of dress watches don't come on bracelets, most of them really

    • @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420
      @mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 2 роки тому +1

      @@AverageBros Depends on your defintion of 'dress' and the rather unusual use of the adjective 'tons' when used to describe something as small and lightweight as a wristwatch.

    • @AverageBros
      @AverageBros  2 роки тому +4

      @@mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm420 insert *eyeroll* here, lol

  • @mmikira2380
    @mmikira2380 2 роки тому

    too bad thing

  • @praetor47
    @praetor47 2 роки тому

    huh? DiaShield is notoriously soft and bad. it's not even as hard as the average stainless steel found in cheaper pocket knives today. the most basic Duratec is 2-3 times harder than DiaShield, and the better versions (like alpha) are a whole order of magnitude better and more advanced than that awfulness called DiaShield

  • @g30rg3-c5
    @g30rg3-c5 2 роки тому

    Oversized? are you ok?... if you want a 25mm watch go get one from the Barbie store - FFS!