Brand’s real addiction seems to be attention. All his other “addictions” feel subordinate to his need to be adored. Maybe he can give up drugs and sex, but he’ll never give up an audience.
Peterson is fine, I mean what he says is often contradictory and sometimes idiotic but he has charisma. Brand on the other hand is hyperventilating at the end of every sentence and his speech is really unbearable.
There’s also tons of sacrifice in Greek Paganism. For someone who so loves symbolic stories and western civilization, it’s interesting how little Jordan ever talks about the Greeks or Romans. I think it’s because he doesn’t want to talk about any society that was successful before Christianity existed. He wants people to believe that a world without Christianity could only be hell on earth. And we know this is obviously not the case.
Peterson talks about statistical relationships between letters and words in large language models as if he's come up with this novel idea, but it is really just the coherence theory of truth, a theory that has been around since the time of Spinoza and Kant. As ever with Jordan Peterson, the maxim holds that what's new isn't true and what's true isn't new.
"You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! If I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!"
There shall, in that time, be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi-- with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock.
| would kill myself if I had to listen to Brand for a prolonged time. His cadence is irritating with annoying intensity that is not called for by whatever he is talking about.
The momentary lapse caused by the temporal adjustment in his assemblies of letters into structures oft referred to in ancestral zero/cornered shapes as words, and those words naturally form into irregular and repeated concepts of adversarial biblical communication.
JP doesn’t care about Buddhist sacrifice because that isn’t about ego. In all his examples about sacrifice the most important is that he can talk about it, shining the light of righteousness on himself. Edit: I just started following you guys (saw posts on Reddit). I am continuously giggling seeing the faces and facepalms you guys make :D I don’t know how you don’t burst out laughing hearing Brand. Honestly Matt’s reaction of not even being able to look at him is the one everybody should have
The desperation in Brands voice sounds like hes completely lost on an ocean of bullshit. Imagine being unfortunate enough to be lost any kind of ocean with either of these weirdos Brand or Peterson. That must be the definition of hell
In your efforts to discredit the gurus, be careful not to sell yourselves short. That you understand what they are trying to convey through sophistry, you are able to make known in plain terms. That is a blessing... Actually to you, but potentially to us all.
I love this channel. You guys are spot on in your analysis of all these gurus. Some of these dudes I don't like but can't articulate precisely why, but you do it for me. Thanks. Wait a minute, maybe that makes you gurus?
What I'd love to see on this channel more than anything would be a guru-ometer on Bill Wilson and Alcoholics Anonymous - a topic that is extremely relevant to Jordan Peterson and Russell Brand. THAT would be AMAZING.
The ego of brand is pure madness. He calls his own analysis of ancient texts “God”. It’s still him but he elevated it to god to try and deter opposing arguments. “Oh but who are you to argue against god?”
These clothes that they wear - so strange. To be fair, Russell set it up long ago that he would go the Christian route - his clothing, his hair - the look of the Messiah and all the rest of it. I always got the vibe that he was trying to be a Jesus - but then I got that off JP too. But their clothing is a little too Baroque - not sure what is being signalled at this point.
Appreciate what you both do - gurus often have "feet of clay" (using biblical terms 😂 ). The late and fine UK psychiatrist/psychotherapist Anthony Storr wrote a great book with this title covering a number of past "guru" like figures. JP's jacket seems to represent his "sage" like internal persona he has of himself.
Peterson on LLMs is hilarious. He's read the Wikipedia page on it, and he's browbeating his son the night before his term paper is due on the subject. Thanks, Dad.
I don't understand how Russell Brand can be... him... when he doesn't quite know the words he's trying to use so frequently. He just sounds so stupid in that extra way on top of the stupidity of the way he's acting generally, which... I guess appeals to some... I dunno, maybe it's like scam emails intentionally containing typos to draw in easy targets...
I always thought that ignorant people saying stupid things on the internet was a big problem. But it seems like knowledgeable people with communication skills saying gibberish is an even bigger problem.
You have to add something at the beginning of all your clips saying you have hours more of a regular podcast. I watched 30 or 40 of your UA-cam videos before one of you offhandedly mentioned a "BTW we do a podcast"
Intelligence and ego without being grounded in psychological maturity act like a whirling dervish - frenetic activity but no ultimate purpose. Brand's words make me feel like that.
JP+RB=NBR (nightmare blunt rotation). Honestly, coming up with dumb ideas which are haphazardly half remembered from ideas already well trod is fun. Its like a stoner conversation good time with your pals. But it doesn't actually mean anything important and it definitely isn't breaking any ground. But stoners are enjoying themselves with buzzy ideas in their living rooms and backyard patios - they aren't jordan peterson and russell brand jerking each other off publicly
These lads remind me of twi 13 year old boys writing pompous gibberish to sound lucid. The cliche is true - a dumb persons idea of a smart person. They also prove the arbtrary nature of words because what they say is utterly arbitrary.
Bint is actually a borrowed common usage word in the English language and is acceptable in the game Scrabble. It’s actually the Arabic word for woman but is of a much older origin in the Levantine tradition.
Just some feedback, you guys do good work by taking apart and looking at these characters and ideas from a philosophical lense. I think while so much of what Jordan says is in need of correction, some of the stuff he says I think is quite interesting which if you disagree fair enough, but in general I think it’s good to try and be maximally charitable. I can appreciate that you’re both able to follow Jordan’s more complicated ideas and provide critic, but in a more constructive and thorough way so as to make sure to demonstrate you know exactly what he’s saying. Meme as much as you want but even Alex O’Conner the skeptic himself, was able to tease apart what Jordan was saying after a longer discussion. I really think it’s possible to bring some of these “gurus” back to reality and one of the ways to do that is to encourage the more authentic conversations that they have.
They don't have authentic convos. They make simple ideas into interminably.long and drawn out diatribes in order to make themselves apear more important and profound than they really are. It's so masturbatory.
Agreed. There two need to be doing more steelmanning of the people they’re trying to take down. They’ve been sounding lately like they’ve been huffing their own farts a bit too much. And I’m a Patreon supporter.
For one, they do steelman Petersons positions several times throughout this video. One of their biggest criticisms is that Peterson uses hyperbolic and obtuse language to explain pretty simple concepts. Secondly, he is at the stage where he is calling treatment of trans youth worst than Nazi Germany, is spouting Climate Change initiative and trying to link Bidens nomination of KBJ to the Supreme Court with the invasion of Ukraine. I think Peterson is not at a stage where he is able to be brought back to reality, especially while he is being propped up by the Daily Wire and treated like a hero by the far right. A moderate sized podcast is not going to convince him to change course. There is room for figures like Alex O'Connor to take it serousily. But also think there is plenty of room for the likes of DTG to just point them out and laugh
For two people who have grown up in Christian countries its took them a long time in their lives to discover Christianity. And for two proponents of the Christian bible and the Christian god they talk little about either directly. Dont hear much chapter and verses being quoted by either.
Professional ideological chameleons. Nothing more than salesmen, selling whatever latest belief and talking points their market demands. Based purely on the demographic results of their latest audience survey, and whatever beliefs are in vogue. By discussing Christianity in such a detached philosophical manner, they conveniently avoid having to actually genuinely personally commit. Enabling them to pivot and align with the ever changing ideological fashions and cultural talking points their buyers want. I’m aware Brand did a baptism ceremony, but as gurus go even he’s an outlier who loves performances for attention, but he’ll jump onto another bandwagon once the fancy takes him because that’s what he’s always done. The only predictable constant is their oppositional defiance stance, driven by their narcissistic attention thirsty need to feed their pathetic posturing as the oppressed, outraged, aggrieved and victimised misunderstood genius. And the silly outfits. All these gurus feel like little spoilt boys playing dress up who think their genius isn’t being rightfully acknowledged, creating podcasts to throw tantrums to demand to be listened to and shown the respect the world owes them. They remind me of guys who grew up being told how very special they are, then once adults couldn’t understand why the rest of the world didn’t treat them accordingly. I just watched the video on Andrew Gold, where he’s outraged the MSM hadn’t acknowledged his ‘viral’ UA-cam video, naturally it must be a conspiracy of the woke agenda ‘cult’ to silence him.
Good theologians struggle for an audience. If you ever see a theologian with a regular audience, I think something else is going on. Good theologians also don’t have podcasts.
Correction: The famous delay of gratification experiment on children used marshmellows, not cookies. They even called it the stanford marshmellow experiment.
and they’d try and justify it by saying “oh but it’s not the Islam that all these immigrants worship who want to destroy our values. We have the proper Islam”.
How the mighty have fallen. Brand used to be admirable in his discourse on addiction recovery, animal rights, social equity...now he's just a piece of shart. It's amazing what people will do to stay relevant.
Jordan's animal analogies (rats, chimps, etc) seem insightful until you learn about ones that symbolism things he doesn't like that he ignores. He often talks about the primatologist Frans De Waal and chimps, but bonobos are just as if not more closely related to us and have a very different social structure. The females are in charge. There's no way Jordan doesn't know about this because he seems to be such a fan of De Waal, but clearly the bonobos didn't resonate with his worldview.
But... but... but I saw Huberman give a talk years and years ago about his personal charkas, and how grew up observing Buddhism. So is he abandoning Buddhism? Of course, at the time I felt that he was just pandering to the audience because they were there to listen to the headline that was give a talk about philosophical buddhism.
I get what Russel was saying in the first snippet. It's not Christianity, or at least it breeches the totality of the New Testament. But since that document is ultimately indecipherable owing to too many cooks in the kitchen, have at it.
Imagine if in the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were frolicking with the lambs and rabbits, eating fruits and vegetables. Then one day a snake appears, and convinces Adam to take a blade, sacrifice the lamb by slitting its throat and spilling its blood, instructs him to carve the flesh from the bones and commit the flesh to flame, and then consume the burnt flesh.. then god appears, says “omg what are you doing? Well that’s it now, you’re an animal, and you gotta go suffer and fight and be eaten” It shouldn’t be so easy to improve this stuff
The theology debates I have heard aren't comparable to this conversation between Jordan Peterson and Russel Brand. Both say very little with a lot of words. But to be honest, I have no idea what Russel Brand talks about. He is all over the place and sometimes just lists a few difficult words.
Actually evolution maximizes the number of offspring. Often times both go hand in hand, but not always. There are animals where death is an integral part of reproduction. For example, some animals die after sex, and others end up as food for their offspring. Or for example a society that is willing to die for its offspring could be more successful than a society that's not willing to die.
Honestly I try not to be a judgmental person… but if I was in the room while these two had this exact conversation, I would literally think both had schizophrenia.
From the initial clip, I'd say Brand just needs to take a few more drugs to be one truly inspirational. I'm not sure what *kind* of drugs, but he could get there by trial and error, I'm sure. Big doses, in any case.
Honestly I hadn't heard much of brand in the last ten years, I remember thinking he was a bit quirky kind of like Jim Carrey but that opening clip of him ... he's completely lost the plot.
Russell Brand: "babble babble...eh...eh..and and ah...ah ...g....babble babble...a...a. eh...ah...waffle waffle babble babble...I...I..ah...babble". This dude is only correct when what he is saying is completely and utterly banal while making it sound supremely profound; and wrong when he tries to explain anything with any degree of complexity or nuance, in which case, it doesn't matter because no one knows what the hell he is prattling about. Ditto with Jordan Peterson. To me it all sounds like the gobbledegook contained within the books on mysticism that I wasted an entire year of my life reading. The only benefit is that it has made me immune to bullshit like this. These dudes would be immediately and completely exposed in class on science, mathematics, or computer programing where they would be completely lost. And thank the gods that they are not doctors where lives are at stake. Let's just say the only wise thing they ever did was their choice of subject matter on which to prattle on about.
These two monologuing at each other is insufferable, but Brand didn't get the hawk goose experiment wrong there, I think you just misunderstood him. He was just saying North South to illustrate going one direction then the other without turning around. Anyways, not sure how you manage to listen to all this stuff. I can feel my brain melting in the first 5 minutes.
Brand’s real addiction seems to be attention. All his other “addictions” feel subordinate to his need to be adored.
Maybe he can give up drugs and sex, but he’ll never give up an audience.
✨Bang on!!! ✨ very well articulated and seen! Wonder when he’ll pick up on that one 😊🙏🏼
Nailed it.
@Fuji_62 Thats just vague
and money
You could say that about all the gurus.
Peterson and Brand are very good at imitating two artificial intelligences trying to have a conversation.
Yes
laughed out loud...
Brands bragging how humble he is was a sight to behold.
Crazy that people can sit through even 15 minutes of listening to (former Dr.)Mr. Peterson or Captain Crack Sparrow
Its so exhausting ...
😂 Captain crack Sparrow😂😂
I try to listen, but he made it so complicated. Full of word sandwich.
What do you mean by "sit" and "through" and "listening"? Cause it's, like, none of those words has an obvious meaning.
Peterson is fine, I mean what he says is often contradictory and sometimes idiotic but he has charisma. Brand on the other hand is hyperventilating at the end of every sentence and his speech is really unbearable.
I find it literally painful to listen to Brand.
Same here, he is such a pontificating arse.
It seams Just out of his mind@@quentinkumba6746
Not to mention his mic levels are all blown out.
I can't listen to Zizek. But he has a speech impediment..
Agreed, Brand doesn't know when to stop talking.
There’s also tons of sacrifice in Greek Paganism. For someone who so loves symbolic stories and western civilization, it’s interesting how little Jordan ever talks about the Greeks or Romans.
I think it’s because he doesn’t want to talk about any society that was successful before Christianity existed. He wants people to believe that a world without Christianity could only be hell on earth. And we know this is obviously not the case.
Jordan is such a bint.
Peterson talks about statistical relationships between letters and words in large language models as if he's come up with this novel idea, but it is really just the coherence theory of truth, a theory that has been around since the time of Spinoza and Kant. As ever with Jordan Peterson, the maxim holds that what's new isn't true and what's true isn't new.
He’s just describing phonotactics, albeit in standard Peterson fashion.
You either die a decoder, or live long enough to see yourself become a Peterson.
lol nice
"You can’t expect to wield supreme executive power just ’cause some watery tart threw a sword at you! If I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint had lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away!"
There shall, in that time, be rumors of things going astray, erm, and there shall be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things wi-- with the sort of raffia work base that has an attachment. At this time, a friend shall lose his friend's hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before, about eight o'clock.
I came to say that.
Jordan Peterson: the grift ain’t good unless you wear a suit that functions as two.
I'm a near-lifelong Christian and I have no idea what Brand is talking about...
Don't sweat it, Jesus H. Christ would be confused.
God's not the author of confusion... But here's two best sellers in the genre
Neither does he, i wouldn't worry about it
| would kill myself if I had to listen to Brand for a prolonged time. His cadence is irritating with annoying intensity that is not called for by whatever he is talking about.
The momentary lapse caused by the temporal adjustment in his assemblies of letters into structures oft referred to in ancestral zero/cornered shapes as words, and those words naturally form into irregular and repeated concepts of adversarial biblical communication.
JP doesn’t care about Buddhist sacrifice because that isn’t about ego. In all his examples about sacrifice the most important is that he can talk about it, shining the light of righteousness on himself.
Edit: I just started following you guys (saw posts on Reddit). I am continuously giggling seeing the faces and facepalms you guys make :D I don’t know how you don’t burst out laughing hearing Brand. Honestly Matt’s reaction of not even being able to look at him is the one everybody should have
The desperation in Brands voice sounds like hes completely lost on an ocean of bullshit. Imagine being unfortunate enough to be lost any kind of ocean with either of these weirdos Brand or Peterson. That must be the definition of hell
'a barn full of chicks' Russell Brand. a barn full of chicks.
Peterson: many people perceived things in the context of living around other people and having similar brains 👍
You need to redo this with Brand now selling amulets.
In your efforts to discredit the gurus, be careful not to sell yourselves short. That you understand what they are trying to convey through sophistry, you are able to make known in plain terms. That is a blessing... Actually to you, but potentially to us all.
I love this channel. You guys are spot on in your analysis of all these gurus. Some of these dudes I don't like but can't articulate precisely why, but you do it for me. Thanks.
Wait a minute, maybe that makes you gurus?
I don't believe Brand isn't on drugs. At least there's ones he should be on and isn't
What I'd love to see on this channel more than anything would be a guru-ometer on Bill Wilson and Alcoholics Anonymous - a topic that is extremely relevant to Jordan Peterson and Russell Brand. THAT would be AMAZING.
Nah you can go to bed honey, I got a DTG to watch.
People like Peterson and Brand take Chesterton's fence and act as if it means "you should never ever take down any fence".
The ego of brand is pure madness. He calls his own analysis of ancient texts “God”. It’s still him but he elevated it to god to try and deter opposing arguments. “Oh but who are you to argue against god?”
Sounds like the majority of religious doctrinal history.
These clothes that they wear - so strange. To be fair, Russell set it up long ago that he would go the Christian route - his clothing, his hair - the look of the Messiah and all the rest of it. I always got the vibe that he was trying to be a Jesus - but then I got that off JP too. But their clothing is a little too Baroque - not sure what is being signalled at this point.
Appreciate what you both do - gurus often have "feet of clay" (using biblical terms 😂 ). The late and fine UK psychiatrist/psychotherapist Anthony Storr wrote a great book with this title covering a number of past "guru" like figures. JP's jacket seems to represent his "sage" like internal persona he has of himself.
I offer you my most enthusiastic contrafibularities.
😂
I´m anaspeptic and phrasmotic by this video!
@@joaocustodio-vq8ot this video gave me pericombobulations....
42:17 Brand is even more humble than Uriah Heep. You guys' eye rolls on this one are worth the entire vid
So much word salad.
Christians will forgive you, they will easily give you a lot of money and also a lot of attention. I can see why this appeals to Russell Brand.
those guys are literally vampires lol
your show is great
Chris and Matt are goddamn rock stars well above the caliber of Jordy Peetermin and Russell Biscuits.
One might even call them gurus lol
@@joshmurphy6227 I DARE NOT
How can anyone listen to more than 2 minutes of this drivel
If you have no BS meter (yet fancy yourself as clever) this nonsense makes PERFECT sense. It's a refuge for confident morons.
Peterson on LLMs is hilarious. He's read the Wikipedia page on it, and he's browbeating his son the night before his term paper is due on the subject. Thanks, Dad.
I don't understand how Russell Brand can be... him... when he doesn't quite know the words he's trying to use so frequently. He just sounds so stupid in that extra way on top of the stupidity of the way he's acting generally, which... I guess appeals to some... I dunno, maybe it's like scam emails intentionally containing typos to draw in easy targets...
These guys rock. Their accents are incredibly sweet. They are intelligent and hilarious. I’m hooked!!!
rand seems to have gone bonkers. disturbing to watch
I always thought that ignorant people saying stupid things on the internet was a big problem.
But it seems like knowledgeable people with communication skills saying gibberish is an even bigger problem.
You have to add something at the beginning of all your clips saying you have hours more of a regular podcast. I watched 30 or 40 of your UA-cam videos before one of you offhandedly mentioned a "BTW we do a podcast"
Intelligence and ego without being grounded in psychological maturity act like a whirling dervish - frenetic activity but no ultimate purpose. Brand's words make me feel like that.
JP+RB=NBR (nightmare blunt rotation).
Honestly, coming up with dumb ideas which are haphazardly half remembered from ideas already well trod is fun. Its like a stoner conversation good time with your pals. But it doesn't actually mean anything important and it definitely isn't breaking any ground. But stoners are enjoying themselves with buzzy ideas in their living rooms and backyard patios - they aren't jordan peterson and russell brand jerking each other off publicly
These lads remind me of twi 13 year old boys writing pompous gibberish to sound lucid. The cliche is true - a dumb persons idea of a smart person.
They also prove the arbtrary nature of words because what they say is utterly arbitrary.
Nicely done!
Pretentious word vomit and jackets.
Brand is such a bint
I recall "bint" from Monty Python and the Holy Grail, so it has a suitably religious context.
I recall it from Fawlty Towers.
Cant get past Petersons jscket. One of the true markers of post modern idiocy.
Brand is insufferable. I can't listen to him.
Bint is actually a borrowed common usage word in the English language and is acceptable in the game Scrabble. It’s actually the Arabic word for woman but is of a much older origin in the Levantine tradition.
Just some feedback, you guys do good work by taking apart and looking at these characters and ideas from a philosophical lense. I think while so much of what Jordan says is in need of correction, some of the stuff he says I think is quite interesting which if you disagree fair enough, but in general I think it’s good to try and be maximally charitable. I can appreciate that you’re both able to follow Jordan’s more complicated ideas and provide critic, but in a more constructive and thorough way so as to make sure to demonstrate you know exactly what he’s saying. Meme as much as you want but even Alex O’Conner the skeptic himself, was able to tease apart what Jordan was saying after a longer discussion. I really think it’s possible to bring some of these “gurus” back to reality and one of the ways to do that is to encourage the more authentic conversations that they have.
They don't have authentic convos. They make simple ideas into interminably.long and drawn out diatribes in order to make themselves apear more important and profound than they really are. It's so masturbatory.
Agreed. There two need to be doing more steelmanning of the people they’re trying to take down. They’ve been sounding lately like they’ve been huffing their own farts a bit too much. And I’m a Patreon supporter.
For one, they do steelman Petersons positions several times throughout this video. One of their biggest criticisms is that Peterson uses hyperbolic and obtuse language to explain pretty simple concepts.
Secondly, he is at the stage where he is calling treatment of trans youth worst than Nazi Germany, is spouting Climate Change initiative and trying to link Bidens nomination of KBJ to the Supreme Court with the invasion of Ukraine. I think Peterson is not at a stage where he is able to be brought back to reality, especially while he is being propped up by the Daily Wire and treated like a hero by the far right. A moderate sized podcast is not going to convince him to change course.
There is room for figures like Alex O'Connor to take it serousily. But also think there is plenty of room for the likes of DTG to just point them out and laugh
For two people who have grown up in Christian countries its took them a long time in their lives to discover Christianity.
And for two proponents of the Christian bible and the Christian god they talk little about either directly. Dont hear much chapter and verses being quoted by either.
It's all about themselves. They just wanted another notch on the self serving belt
Professional ideological chameleons. Nothing more than salesmen, selling whatever latest belief and talking points their market demands. Based purely on the demographic results of their latest audience survey, and whatever beliefs are in vogue. By discussing Christianity in such a detached philosophical manner, they conveniently avoid having to actually genuinely personally commit. Enabling them to pivot and align with the ever changing ideological fashions and cultural talking points their buyers want. I’m aware Brand did a baptism ceremony, but as gurus go even he’s an outlier who loves performances for attention, but he’ll jump onto another bandwagon once the fancy takes him because that’s what he’s always done.
The only predictable constant is their oppositional defiance stance, driven by their narcissistic attention thirsty need to feed their pathetic posturing as the oppressed, outraged, aggrieved and victimised misunderstood genius. And the silly outfits. All these gurus feel like little spoilt boys playing dress up who think their genius isn’t being rightfully acknowledged, creating podcasts to throw tantrums to demand to be listened to and shown the respect the world owes them. They remind me of guys who grew up being told how very special they are, then once adults couldn’t understand why the rest of the world didn’t treat them accordingly. I just watched the video on Andrew Gold, where he’s outraged the MSM hadn’t acknowledged his ‘viral’ UA-cam video, naturally it must be a conspiracy of the woke agenda ‘cult’ to silence him.
Honestly there must be load of better theologians or religious scholars out there.
Good theologians struggle for an audience. If you ever see a theologian with a regular audience, I think something else is going on.
Good theologians also don’t have podcasts.
Thanks 😅
Good. Keep on keeping.
Correction: The famous delay of gratification experiment on children used marshmellows, not cookies. They even called it the stanford marshmellow experiment.
That was the most insufferable convo I've ever heard... diatribe masturbation
Wow. Just wow
It’s just appealing to a trend. If tomorrow Jordan Peterson converted to Islam, eventually all these secular gurus would follow suit.
and they’d try and justify it by saying “oh but it’s not the Islam that all these immigrants worship who want to destroy our values. We have the proper Islam”.
Try holding a deep squat for 10 minutes to strengthen your ankles.
How the mighty have fallen. Brand used to be admirable in his discourse on addiction recovery, animal rights, social equity...now he's just a piece of shart. It's amazing what people will do to stay relevant.
'Albeit glistening culture.' Fuck. That one was so pretentious I couldnd't help but laugh quite a lot. Russell is very occasionally good for that.
Jordan's animal analogies (rats, chimps, etc) seem insightful until you learn about ones that symbolism things he doesn't like that he ignores. He often talks about the primatologist Frans De Waal and chimps, but bonobos are just as if not more closely related to us and have a very different social structure. The females are in charge. There's no way Jordan doesn't know about this because he seems to be such a fan of De Waal, but clearly the bonobos didn't resonate with his worldview.
But... but... but I saw Huberman give a talk years and years ago about his personal charkas, and how grew up observing Buddhism. So is he abandoning Buddhism? Of course, at the time I felt that he was just pandering to the audience because they were there to listen to the headline that was give a talk about philosophical buddhism.
Amazing having these two in the same room! It will save the insane asylum an additional trip.
“Please pick up these two nut jobs on this one address”
Contrary to Einstein's mantra ("everything should be as simple as possible"), Jordan's mantra is everything should be as murky as possible...
Who is watching this insufferable nonsense?
Peterson is pretty far gone.
I get what Russel was saying in the first snippet. It's not Christianity, or at least it breeches the totality of the New Testament. But since that document is ultimately indecipherable owing to too many cooks in the kitchen, have at it.
Imagine if in the garden of Eden, Adam and Eve were frolicking with the lambs and rabbits, eating fruits and vegetables. Then one day a snake appears, and convinces Adam to take a blade, sacrifice the lamb by slitting its throat and spilling its blood, instructs him to carve the flesh from the bones and commit the flesh to flame, and then consume the burnt flesh.. then god appears, says “omg what are you doing? Well that’s it now, you’re an animal, and you gotta go suffer and fight and be eaten”
It shouldn’t be so easy to improve this stuff
The theology debates I have heard aren't comparable to this conversation between Jordan Peterson and Russel Brand. Both say very little with a lot of words. But to be honest, I have no idea what Russel Brand talks about. He is all over the place and sometimes just lists a few difficult words.
Russell Brand waffle sounds like nothing so much as Stephen Fry parodying a talking head in "A Bit of Fry and Laurie"
Would have been a bit awkward for Russel to explain what a "bint" means.
That jacket is saying more about JP than anything that fell out of his mouth.
It's seriously exhausting to listen to
Actually evolution maximizes the number of offspring. Often times both go hand in hand, but not always. There are animals where death is an integral part of reproduction. For example, some animals die after sex, and others end up as food for their offspring. Or for example a society that is willing to die for its offspring could be more successful than a society that's not willing to die.
bint
/bɪnt/
noun
derogatory•informal
noun: bint; plural noun: bints
a girl or woman.😂
my coffee doesn't have this effect on me - what kind of coffee is Brand drinking?
Physics is the precursor to Quantum Physics.
Surely that original conversation between Peterson and Brand set some sort of record for the most syllables and least value ever uttered.
Honestly I try not to be a judgmental person… but if I was in the room while these two had this exact conversation, I would literally think both had schizophrenia.
I believe Jonathan Pageau can also be found roaming the forest of intellectualism
From the initial clip, I'd say Brand just needs to take a few more drugs to be one truly inspirational. I'm not sure what *kind* of drugs, but he could get there by trial and error, I'm sure. Big doses, in any case.
Can I get some Ranch with that word salad 😅
Russell is an embarrassment
Brand is always playing himself in a movie.
Honestly I hadn't heard much of brand in the last ten years, I remember thinking he was a bit quirky kind of like Jim Carrey but that opening clip of him ... he's completely lost the plot.
Russel needs to follow the instructions on the prescription bottle of Adderall, exactly how his doctor prescribed. Not how he feels is the right dose
(quantum)
I can't believe how boring Jordie is without Sam Harris to shut him up.
I feel sorry for both brand’s and Jordan’s wives
I'm just here for my daily supply of glottal stops.
I thought I heard bint before :D
Russell Brand: "babble babble...eh...eh..and and ah...ah ...g....babble babble...a...a. eh...ah...waffle waffle babble babble...I...I..ah...babble".
This dude is only correct when what he is saying is completely and utterly banal while making it sound supremely profound; and wrong when he tries to explain anything with any degree of complexity or nuance, in which case, it doesn't matter because no one knows what the hell he is prattling about. Ditto with Jordan Peterson.
To me it all sounds like the gobbledegook contained within the books on mysticism that I wasted an entire year of my life reading. The only benefit is that it has made me immune to bullshit like this. These dudes would be immediately and completely exposed in class on science, mathematics, or computer programing where they would be completely lost. And thank the gods that they are not doctors where lives are at stake. Let's just say the only wise thing they ever did was their choice of subject matter on which to prattle on about.
Doesn't Plato speak about sacrifice and I'm pretty sure he predates Jesus
These two monologuing at each other is insufferable, but Brand didn't get the hawk goose experiment wrong there, I think you just misunderstood him. He was just saying North South to illustrate going one direction then the other without turning around.
Anyways, not sure how you manage to listen to all this stuff. I can feel my brain melting in the first 5 minutes.
Wouldnt buy a car from either of brand or peterson.
Where are you getting your vape juice from now ?
Brand is absolute trash
I really wish Brand was not here in reality.