I'll never get tired of Peterson ranting about resentful people...he's honestly the most resentful public figure I've seen in my lifetime. Everything is just drenched with resent for young progressives, 'woke moralists', environmentalists, etc.
Etc is gender ideologists, antisemitic, pro unfettered immigration, anti American and Canadian culture, protesting in support of terrorism, limiting freedom of speech etc etc
He’s been stuck in the culture war since he got famous… and the culture war is essentially just saying “no I don’t like that” to someone else’s way of life while pedaling rights and freedoms despicable
@@francisnopantses1108 just a kid who was small and couldn’t defend himself, who grew up to help marginalize already marginalized communities on the basis of metaphysical truth and “the culture war” shmuck is putting it lightly
He's looking for a larger reason his pursuit and sharing of truth in a wonderful university, could possibly have been interrupted so egregiously. He really does have a fairly prominent role to play, here.
@@jimluebke3869 I'm a nobody, and even I can tell he's a fake intellectual. He's not even an academic anymore, he's just a podcaster with dumb opinions on topics he's completely ignorant about.
@@MrSporksterLol, I'll bet you think that Bill Nye, Neill Degrasse Tyson, and Claudine Gay are "real" intellectuals. Drop the credentialist nonsense and listen to the evidence and reasoning he presents.
I think Bret’s clip should be implemented as a litmus test to sniff out narcissists and cult leaders: “Do you feel like the lady who figured it all out in Hitchhiker’s guide?”. If they answer yes, run.
Bret bringing up "collective action problem" while being against such during the pandemic is classic Bret projection. He truly will go down as the most unaware projector of our times.
He has stiff competition. Or limp competition; but nevertheless, I wish he was the clear winner & there wasn't a dead heat between multiple charlatans + cranks.
If you follow your claim up with “I don’t really know/we can’t be sure”, you can pretty much say anything you want because you’ve intentionally and preemptively stopped anyone from being able to criticise you when your claim is proven wrong: “I never said I was sure about this so I don’t know why you’re acting like I did”. Then they intentionally never talk about it again.
Very cool to get a visual accompaniment to the audio. After years of just listening I can now indulge my senses further, into the spectrum of light. Keep doing this!
lmfao. his hypothesis about the Chinese gender imbalance is wild. The fact he doesn't even consider that something as obvious as culture might impact things says everything. He's a man with a solution looking for a problem.
Man with a solution looking for a problem is it. All these gurus have a dumb, outdated view of the world and they spend all their time reverse engineering it
It's wild that he claims he's reevaluating it too while apparently unaware of all of the hidden girls who appeared when the government gave amnesty to families who violated the policy.
Bret is the Jesus of the Age of Aquarius! He has the answer! And his brother is the only man who knows how the interdimensional alien spaceships got here👽🖤🦝We bow before thee Holy Weinsteins!
It may feel like a re-hashing, but I think it's vital to keep focusing on these factories of misinformation polluting the information space...And the Gollum stuff near the end is hilarious
Why is it typically the least informed among us who are the most vociferous in calling for the suppression of the supposed misinformation coming from their intellectual superiors?
I don't know how people can listen to either of them without a deep sense of "cringe". The make a mockery of the select few things areas they are actually knowledgeable in
@@daigoro111o wow lol. I had to Google that. he calls it the theory of geometric unity. Pretty wild that he just goes ahead and calls it a theory not a hypothesis
when you re-watch his early stuff it's pretty noticable how degraded his condition is these days. The self-help guru who got so into drugs at the apex of his fame that he ended up in a coma, and still suffering the effects from it.
after hearing the intro... has no-one mentioned how in "the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" earth was NOT meant to find the answer to the question of life, but the "ultimate question"?
It was genuinely great to hear the theme music. I read the books a lot when I was a kid so I've forgotten much, but if Bret indeed got the question wrong, kudos for picking that up & remembering correctly. I'll have to re-read them one day. Losing Adams & Stephen Jay Gould so early still makes me grieve.
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 also, as a reminder: it was that ancient alien race that built a super computer "deep thought" to find the answer to the meaning of life. after millions of years it came up with "42". deep thought said that their question wasn't really much to work with, so to find out what 42 is the answer to, they will have to build a super computer that will find them the "ultimate question" to which the answer is 42. that super computer was earth ;)
I remember Jordan talking about prophets and them being punished for it and having hard life because of their gift. Obviously, he was talking about himself. He actually thinks of himself as a prophet/martyr, which is probably the highest level of narcissism lol
@@redmed10 yeah and that's definitely nothing to do with the political agenda he constantly talks about at every opportunity, because remember - he's not ideological and he's definitely "not a rightwinger", ok?
The sad thing about Peterson is that I *still* encounter guys all the time IRL who are absolutely caught up in his world view and genuinely believe his version of himself.
Most of Bret’s stuff grinds my gears but the china military fitness thing REALLY grinds my gears. 1) he doesn’t offer a single mechanism for how a predominantly male population would be selected for military advantages. When is a single time that china has been at war and that policy helped them survive as a population? 2) totally ignores culture. China is literally grappling with the problems of a predominantly male population and is facing challenges from the conservative Chinese culture that still prioritizes males. 3) ignores the consequences of female births we are seeing in china. It’s extremely lucrative to have a daughter in china currently and it’s an emerging trend that parents of daughters can demand increasingly high dowries because of how valuable being a single woman is in china. Bret’s line of thinking for everything is “this could be a reason AND it’s one I can take credit for formulating, so it must be true”
I went to the same "what mechanism tho, Bret?" question but it's all so repulsive, & your comment makes me wonder how he'd weave that "lineage/warrior" BS into the major Chinese conflict of the modern era --- which was a civil war. China's also got dozens if not 100s of different ethnicities within its historic + current geographic area; I don't even know who Bret means when he says "Chinese".
The US Military has always required FDA approved vaccinations (emergency approved vaccinations are not the same). It's only because a bunch of tools decide to make it a political issue had it become an issue.
I can't resist your Bret/Jordan insights-always bang on. Gents, this is torturous, but have you seen the recent conversation between Jordan Hall and John Vervaeke? It did my head in. Jordon recently became a "real" Christian, and they spent an hour and a half talking about Jordon's "experience/qualia/whatever" of "being in community" in a Christ mystery way, blah, blah, blah... There is no theology, apologetics, or literary criticism, just endless musings about being "what it's like for me" to be a Christian. It made me feel a modicum of respect for Ayaan Hirsi Ali's brand of politics demands I become a Christian. It did my head in. It's like when one is driving in the middle of nowhere USA, and the only station is country and western full of overly market researched caned two-step tunes, or you smoked something in a motel room, mouth wide open, staring at the local evangelical church channel out of morbid curiosity, unable to turn away from the cultural car crash. From time to time, John has some interesting insights in "the spirit of" Joseph Campbell, but the meaning-making amounts to what exactly? It may be too painful for you to watch, but do you have any insights on these guys now?
China hypothesis still not as ridiculous as his hypothesis that his streams were consistently dropping frames because he was in a log cabin and the wood must have been leaking helium that penetrated the capture card, consistently interfering with the signal. This hypothesis also demonstrated clearly that he doesn't care at all about testing his ideas as it would have been trivially easy to buy some helium and do a test.
The old Jordan Peterson, when he first came on the scene, was actually worth listening to, despite some big misgivings. His psychology work, Maps of Meaning, is great stuff. Perhaps I missed the writing in the wall that others screamed about from the start but, knowing his work quite well I’d say that he became the caricature that they at first made of him.
I have disagreed with him since he emerged on the pop culture scene. Reason: All the most important people in my life are women or becoming women. And as a progressive minded person, living in Scandinavia, his views are more in line with the wealthy and leaders of industry and I am a working class guy, so the society he is prescribing doesn't align with people like me. What would change my mind? Being rich, lacking morals/empathy or being a business leader.
He never stopped being the intellectual you admired. He simply added philosophy and spirituality to the mix. Also his anti-authoritarian and anti-bullshit tendencies got him unfairly labeled as “far right”.
@@iymspartacus7089 He actually said: "The empirical hypothesis is wrong" on Tom Bilyeu's podcast a few weeks ago. While I can understand the limitations of empiricism in the field of psychology as it pertains to anxiety, if someone said that sentence as it stands, I would assume they have checked out of reality. Like I commented on that video, no one would ever hire such a person unless they were a sci-fi writer.
I wondered if Bret wasn't going to argue that by reducing the numbers of girls without increasing the numbers of boys, they'd still get a population with a "warrior mentality" since so many of the men would find it harder to find partners, and that frustration drives militarism and fascism. But apparently he wasn't going that route.
I made it to 3:50. Listening to Brett Weinstein’s voice is worse than nails on a chalkboard. Never experienced that before. Instant Rage! Couldn’t do it. I’ll leave this for the algorithm. Catch you on the next one guys.
So Bret’s idea was that the sperm and egg somehow knew about the world around them, and specifically that they were in china and said “Chinese people want to make an army. Let’s make this egg a boy”?
"i feel like the young woman in that story" rofl i have known this dude was nuts but this is the 1st piece I've seen that actually approaches this, everyone else is like "i don't understand his physics words ergo he must be generally brilliant" (even insofar as physics he seems a putz, i am not a physicist but hearing him 'trying to argue' againt stephen wolfram was next-level cringe, i think weinstein may have the most deludedly high overestimation of himself of any 'current personality' i am aware of)
When he was talking about male armies and the one-child policy, i actually thought he was talking about _breeding_ specifically. That he was saying they are producing men and sending them around the world to breed other chinese or something, but maybe im reading too much subtext there.
Brett feels like he might be the singular person in the world that discovered the greatest question and no other human has meaning other than that which eventually brought him to taht question? damn. He shouldn't worry. Doesnt sound arrogant.
Both of these 'gurus' were quiet, respectful and respected members of their society. When a normal person ( specifically an academic ) is thrust from obscurity into a culture war. And is relentlessly and possibly unfairly attacked. It will do one of two things... frighten them to return into the shade of anonymity. Or if befriended by one side of the culture wars, into their ranks... start fighting those that attack them. If a side tries to destroy your reputation. Then you're more likely to run to the safety of their enemies enclave. To be remorselessly ridiculed, for a non-iconoclast... produces a personality shift that is a pure fight or flight response. For neither of them... is this normal. They must both literally feel like they're permanently in a state of war. They're two academics handed a metaphorical gun and told to start shooting. If they don't 'shoot' they will always be considered 'reactionary and by progressive extremists - evil' with their reputations sullied. Whilst they may deeply annoy people... Weinstein in particular, may've cost people their lives or at least their health, by some of his pandemic responses? Peterson seems pretty much benign. They're more victims of a culture war, than irredeemable antagonists within it.
Bullshit They've made a literal fortune from doing what they're doing. Peterson literally works for 'the Daily Wire'. They're not victims, they're willing propagandists.
@@commonwunder I like to hear a variety of opinions. Sometimes the comments are more interesting than the video. My comments are mostly intended to troll the self-important and encourage the thoughtful. On rare occasions the commenter falls into both categories, making things especially fun.
They are not victims of a culture war. They are profiteers of the right wing obsession with a culture war. These guys used the negative public response to their arrogance and ignorance as a spring board in to a lucrative career grifting conservatives.
Is it really fair to use the term anti vax. To lump cautious individuals in a single group, even if they have taken every other conventional vaccine. Is it not reasonable to be cautious of new pharmaceutical products ?.
The AntiVax™ doesnt mean that someone is questioning some medicine basically. I think it should be clear at this point. Its a character, a talking point that gathers clicks. Like think about it, theres like a million talking heads and wannabes running around media, knowing nothing about any medicine, without medicine being their topic of choise. But they run around regurgitating things about vaccine, not usually even vaccines but a vaccine. They never talk about blood pressure medicine, cough medicine or anything medicine . Like it begs the question, what are they doing. Why this specific vaccine is so interesting to them. And most of all, what type of audience theyre targeting. I dont care about vaccines or any type of medicine, Im not trying to find out about medicine and podcasts of doctors etc and Im still bombarded with these boring to death talking points about some specific vaccine. What is going on? What are these people doing.
Being ingenious would suggest doing something new, neither one of them does anything new. Mediocre academics with pet theories that don't go anywhere, and who resort to grifting to idiots when they fail bitterly. And I disagree about their arrogance not making them less correct. I think their arrogance has a direct causal role in their being incorrect. Less of a role than their opportunistic greed, but certainly a role.
Bret was such a letdown. I enjoyed his evolutionary takes on things say ~5+ years ago, heterodox ideas, etc., and then he turned into (probably always was) an absolute loon.
Yeah after he got throwed of evergreen he started to decrease in sharpness and originality to become a poor copy of right wing "intellectuals" like Peterson or Murray
@@tdb517 I agree with that, though I think I would have left that position too, the students that protested him were rather daft and unreasonably aggressive, but that is young people for ya.
@@sspbrazil yeah of course I'm not defending the students at all with that evergreen story. I just mentioned it because I believe it was kind of traumatic (quite justifiably) for weinstein
What happens if Peterson begins one of his monologues with the stupid position that he typically concludes? Does he meander his way back to the somewhat reasonable?
When, without public knowledge or consent, it becomes legal for a teacher to help a child transition to another gender, without telling the parents, then I think there is a problem with those governing us.
Despite a multitude of moral and scientific reasons, as a taxpayer, I don't want to be on the hook for all the lawsuits coming when these kids realize they can't ever have children and sue the gov't for allowing it to happen.@@nevermorebouquet3681
Then you should be happy that that's (obviously) not legal anywhere. Unless you're trying to portray teachers who don't sweep transgenderism under the rug as "transitioning children" just because.
I used to be super into Bret Weinstein. Watched probs 30 episodes of his podcast as they came out. I always remember his fans being absolutely bonkers even back when he was pretty moderate.
Screw the Wuhan lab. I wanna know what lab created Bret! He looks like he’d be able to play a male version of the creature in that dumb sci fi flick ‘Splice’!
Bret is very good at pointing out the rot at the heart of our irreproducible academics. He's certainly not the only one that has seen it. His audience consists largely of others who have also seen it, and not dismissed it, as you two yahoos seem to have. Are you doing this freelance (in addition to your paid academic gigs) or have your colleagues and / or superiors pushed you into it? I'm curious.
Dammit Bret, don't associate yourself personally with HHGTTG or anything else by Douglas Adams. It'd be like my cargo-shorts-and-SLAYER-tshirt-wearing ass saying the Barbie movie was about me and my dirtbag friends.
Why is it bad or funny or reprehensible (and I don't know what else) to have people say "follow me, I have a vision"? This is how things work with humans. The ones that convince the populace become leaders and even create religions. If you take "gurus" that are dangerous for the things they say, ok I understand the "uncovering", but here you have people that are not dangerous, they just have different views than you. I do not follow Bret to know what he says about vaccines, but the little that I have heard him, he seems coherent and reasonable. They have big egos? So what, it's a personality trait, nothing to be ashamed of.
Both of them are public dangers for the people who take them seriously. Real leaders are there to solve a problem and try to deliver, they aren't causing the problem and then fleece people for a solution. The reason you don't understand why is simply because you can't tell the difference and the goal of those two guys seem to be to educate people to recognize them. Of course if you think you know better, it's your life. It's impossible to save everybody.
They aren't looking to solve any of these problems. They're looking to be on the good side of the elites, so the problems supposedly won't affect them.
My life is impossible to understand. I am spending my life trying to overcome an unjust censorship doing everything I can with what I got to get published the greatest knowledge of all time. The truth is atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Do you think my life is fun? Why don't you put yourself in my mind? Who ever said life is fair? God makes life perfectly fair because everything we do we do it to Ourself being Time and Space. God is simply everything that exist, past present and future. If the universe was designed we have to expect rationally an eternal surprise when we die. I think the death of the brain causes the mind to transform to know all, and that our perfect eternal hell and heaven. It is just an idea that can not do harm to anyone. I want to end the war and unite humanity, so what's wrong with trying? I am tired and I need to rest. I need you. All is the same and different God. We are organs of the same body. Is not the end of the war in Ukraine and Gaza what you say you want? Is not the end of religion and atheism what you say you want? The future can be bright. I want to give you hope. Thank you.
What I don't understand, and it's a question I'd like someone to ask them is, what is it exactly that these two blokes want, I mean, what do they expect to achieve from all of this? it's never ending...what is the end game for these people other than listening to the sound of their own voices? I mean, is that the goal...to live in their own echo chamber? I really don't understand where they are going or where they hope to arrive with these endless gripes with seemingly everything and everyone in the known universe. Imagine being one of these people...the endless noise inside their heads. If they weren't so casually dangerous I would pity them, but of course it is impossible to pity this degree of hubris and baffling self aggrandisement. Maybe it's enough to be a full time cry baby?
Which ones? Peterson and Weinstein want attention and money as well as revenge on the people that hurt them. The two in the podcast want to expose charlatans.
It’s those that haven’t accomplished anything that sit around and trivialize the accomplishments of others. You actually publish this as if it’s content and not stuck up shit talking of the sort you find in middle or high school? How embarrassing.
I’m a social care worker and I’ve had four or five vaccinations/boosters and I can categorically confirm that my killer instinct has only increased by 2%. And I’m Scottish so that’s nothing 😂
Thankfully, neither of you will ever have to know what it's like to have a successful popularity campaign go to your head. You'll be squealing like a chronic case of envy or hitting a vape on camera as an explicit lack of class instead.
@@Bobby12many Bret and Jordan have individual weaknesses like everyone else, but both are highly skilled in specific areas as well. I don't look at anyone as a guru or infallible and I've been critical of both when applicable, but their positive contributions are unquestionable. Dismissing them and those who hold them in esteem, in such a simplistic way says something unfavorable about you.
@@kenhiett5266 pray tell, what exactly are their unique positive contributions? They have offered nothing novel, impactful or lasting to their individual areas of supposed expertise (outside of embarrassment). They are charlatans and increasingly misuse their platforms to spread misinformation and foolishness under the guise of "intellectual curiosity". If you don't grasp this concept, "Decoding the Gurus" is not for you.
![Wolfram Physics Project: Working Session Wednesday, May 6, 2020 [Finding Black Hole Structures]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/qdVSOLL1mls/mqdefault.jpg)
I'll never get tired of Peterson ranting about resentful people...he's honestly the most resentful public figure I've seen in my lifetime. Everything is just drenched with resent for young progressives, 'woke moralists', environmentalists, etc.
Etc is gender ideologists, antisemitic, pro unfettered immigration, anti American and Canadian culture, protesting in support of terrorism, limiting freedom of speech etc etc
He’s been stuck in the culture war since he got famous… and the culture war is essentially just saying “no I don’t like that” to someone else’s way of life while pedaling rights and freedoms despicable
He resents his classmates from his hometown. You can read about it in 12 Rules. What a shmuck.
@@francisnopantses1108 just a kid who was small and couldn’t defend himself, who grew up to help marginalize already marginalized communities on the basis of metaphysical truth and “the culture war” shmuck is putting it lightly
'It will probably sound arrogant-' Yes.
He's looking for a larger reason his pursuit and sharing of truth in a wonderful university, could possibly have been interrupted so egregiously.
He really does have a fairly prominent role to play, here.
@@jimluebke3869 he's a fake intellectual with bottom tier opinions.
@@MrSporkster Lol, he's a real academic with very real concerns.
What are you?
@@jimluebke3869 I'm a nobody, and even I can tell he's a fake intellectual. He's not even an academic anymore, he's just a podcaster with dumb opinions on topics he's completely ignorant about.
@@MrSporksterLol, I'll bet you think that Bill Nye, Neill Degrasse Tyson, and Claudine Gay are "real" intellectuals.
Drop the credentialist nonsense and listen to the evidence and reasoning he presents.
I think Bret’s clip should be implemented as a litmus test to sniff out narcissists and cult leaders: “Do you feel like the lady who figured it all out in Hitchhiker’s guide?”. If they answer yes, run.
Stop making sense.
I really think Douglas Adams had it a lot more figured out than he does. Remember the message from God apologizing for the inconvenience?
@@francisnopantses1108 Or the cow pointing out its own delicious nature.
Bret bringing up "collective action problem" while being against such during the pandemic is classic Bret projection. He truly will go down as the most unaware projector of our times.
He has stiff competition. Or limp competition; but nevertheless, I wish he was the clear winner & there wasn't a dead heat between multiple charlatans + cranks.
If you follow your claim up with “I don’t really know/we can’t be sure”, you can pretty much say anything you want because you’ve intentionally and preemptively stopped anyone from being able to criticise you when your claim is proven wrong: “I never said I was sure about this so I don’t know why you’re acting like I did”. Then they intentionally never talk about it again.
Very cool to get a visual accompaniment to the audio. After years of just listening I can now indulge my senses further, into the spectrum of light. Keep doing this!
Agree!!!!!
lmfao. his hypothesis about the Chinese gender imbalance is wild. The fact he doesn't even consider that something as obvious as culture might impact things says everything. He's a man with a solution looking for a problem.
Man with a solution looking for a problem is it. All these gurus have a dumb, outdated view of the world and they spend all their time reverse engineering it
It's wild that he claims he's reevaluating it too while apparently unaware of all of the hidden girls who appeared when the government gave amnesty to families who violated the policy.
"L1nE@Ge"
jfc, Bret
So glad to find you reasonable people
Bret is the Jesus of the Age of Aquarius! He has the answer! And his brother is the only man who knows how the interdimensional alien spaceships got here👽🖤🦝We bow before thee Holy Weinsteins!
I'm kind of desperate to understand how they were nurtured. Like are they escaped Skinner experiments?
It may feel like a re-hashing, but I think it's vital to keep focusing on these factories of misinformation polluting the information space...And the Gollum stuff near the end is hilarious
Why is it typically the least informed among us who are the most vociferous in calling for the suppression of the supposed misinformation coming from their intellectual superiors?
Do you think Eric is ever embarrassed by Bret.? Probably not
I don't know how people can listen to either of them without a deep sense of "cringe". The make a mockery of the select few things areas they are actually knowledgeable in
Eric is even more insufferable.
The guy who claims to have solved quantum gravity and works for a guy who buys Senators and yet speaks from moral authority, embarrassed? No.
@@daigoro111o wow lol. I had to Google that. he calls it the theory of geometric unity. Pretty wild that he just goes ahead and calls it a theory not a hypothesis
Bret is looking like Susie from Curb Your Enthusiasm's recent episodes🤣
Their narcissism is quite the spectacle.
Not sure who you're talking about, Bret and Jordan or these two envious and resentful decoders?
@@StefanKing-f6tlmao, yes you can’t critique without being envious and resentful, the American Dream.
They both are great examples of people who love the smell of their own farts
@@StefanKing-f6tI don’t think they’re envious at all, they are spot on.
@@StefanKing-f6tmy thoughts as well, but I would also add the bulk of the commenters to your question.
Peterson swings so hard between Grandiose and Vulnerable Narcissism
when you re-watch his early stuff it's pretty noticable how degraded his condition is these days. The self-help guru who got so into drugs at the apex of his fame that he ended up in a coma, and still suffering the effects from it.
@@J0MBi I don't know if he beat his addiction. Maybe the benz but not the addiction.
He has such "dry drunk" energy.
after hearing the intro... has no-one mentioned how in "the hitchhikers guide to the galaxy" earth was NOT meant to find the answer to the question of life, but the "ultimate question"?
It was genuinely great to hear the theme music. I read the books a lot when I was a kid so I've forgotten much, but if Bret indeed got the question wrong, kudos for picking that up & remembering correctly. I'll have to re-read them one day. Losing Adams & Stephen Jay Gould so early still makes me grieve.
@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 the hitchhikers guide always stuck with me :D probably because its absurdity was exactly my humour as a teen
@@picahudsoniaunflocked5426 also, as a reminder:
it was that ancient alien race that built a super computer "deep thought" to find the answer to the meaning of life. after millions of years it came up with "42".
deep thought said that their question wasn't really much to work with, so to find out what 42 is the answer to, they will have to build a super computer that will find them the "ultimate question" to which the answer is 42.
that super computer was earth ;)
I remember Jordan talking about prophets and them being punished for it and having hard life because of their gift. Obviously, he was talking about himself. He actually thinks of himself as a prophet/martyr, which is probably the highest level of narcissism lol
The millions he is getting I'm sure makes the bitter pill easier to swallow.
@@redmed10 yeah and that's definitely nothing to do with the political agenda he constantly talks about at every opportunity, because remember - he's not ideological and he's definitely "not a rightwinger", ok?
Imagine simping for JBP and Brett Weinstein in 2024.
Who do you simp for?
The sad thing about Peterson is that I *still* encounter guys all the time IRL who are absolutely caught up in his world view and genuinely believe his version of himself.
Most of Bret’s stuff grinds my gears but the china military fitness thing REALLY grinds my gears. 1) he doesn’t offer a single mechanism for how a predominantly male population would be selected for military advantages. When is a single time that china has been at war and that policy helped them survive as a population? 2) totally ignores culture. China is literally grappling with the problems of a predominantly male population and is facing challenges from the conservative Chinese culture that still prioritizes males. 3) ignores the consequences of female births we are seeing in china. It’s extremely lucrative to have a daughter in china currently and it’s an emerging trend that parents of daughters can demand increasingly high dowries because of how valuable being a single woman is in china. Bret’s line of thinking for everything is “this could be a reason AND it’s one I can take credit for formulating, so it must be true”
I went to the same "what mechanism tho, Bret?" question but it's all so repulsive, & your comment makes me wonder how he'd weave that "lineage/warrior" BS into the major Chinese conflict of the modern era --- which was a civil war. China's also got dozens if not 100s of different ethnicities within its historic + current geographic area; I don't even know who Bret means when he says "Chinese".
Way better watching these seeing your faces and expressions!! Thanks Andy😊
The US Military has always required FDA approved vaccinations (emergency approved vaccinations are not the same). It's only because a bunch of tools decide to make it a political issue had it become an issue.
I can't resist your Bret/Jordan insights-always bang on. Gents, this is torturous, but have you seen the recent conversation between Jordan Hall and John Vervaeke? It did my head in. Jordon recently became a "real" Christian, and they spent an hour and a half talking about Jordon's "experience/qualia/whatever" of "being in community" in a Christ mystery way, blah, blah, blah... There is no theology, apologetics, or literary criticism, just endless musings about being "what it's like for me" to be a Christian. It made me feel a modicum of respect for Ayaan Hirsi Ali's brand of politics demands I become a Christian. It did my head in. It's like when one is driving in the middle of nowhere USA, and the only station is country and western full of overly market researched caned two-step tunes, or you smoked something in a motel room, mouth wide open, staring at the local evangelical church channel out of morbid curiosity, unable to turn away from the cultural car crash. From time to time, John has some interesting insights in "the spirit of" Joseph Campbell, but the meaning-making amounts to what exactly? It may be too painful for you to watch, but do you have any insights on these guys now?
Using the term meaning making basically shows you're already reading reality backwards. Meaning is there you notice it or dont.
Was it as painful as reading your smug drawn out spiel of a paragraph there? Because, indeed…it did my head in.😆😒
@@georgecisneros5281 Good
@@GlobeHackers 😂🤣
The robot at Igg4 is hilarious
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China hypothesis still not as ridiculous as his hypothesis that his streams were consistently dropping frames because he was in a log cabin and the wood must have been leaking helium that penetrated the capture card, consistently interfering with the signal. This hypothesis also demonstrated clearly that he doesn't care at all about testing his ideas as it would have been trivially easy to buy some helium and do a test.
One of you should re-educate JBP and stream it all.
Yeah, we need more "JBP destroys" videos on UA-cam, the old ones have lost a bit of re-watch value. ;)
We’re probably in trouble as a society when we start advocating the re-education of our brightest minds by their inferiors.
@@jimluebke3869 hows your girlfriend
"Stop tweeting like a demented Muppet!" That would be a very short course...
It would have to involve kidnapping.
The old Jordan Peterson, when he first came on the scene, was actually worth listening to, despite some big misgivings. His psychology work, Maps of Meaning, is great stuff. Perhaps I missed the writing in the wall that others screamed about from the start but, knowing his work quite well I’d say that he became the caricature that they at first made of him.
Sorry, but he too, was always a blow hard. I know it's hard to accept, but, nah.
I have disagreed with him since he emerged on the pop culture scene. Reason: All the most important people in my life are women or becoming women. And as a progressive minded person, living in Scandinavia, his views are more in line with the wealthy and leaders of industry and I am a working class guy, so the society he is prescribing doesn't align with people like me.
What would change my mind? Being rich, lacking morals/empathy or being a business leader.
He never stopped being the intellectual you admired. He simply added philosophy and spirituality to the mix. Also his anti-authoritarian and anti-bullshit tendencies got him unfairly labeled as “far right”.
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He actually said: "The empirical hypothesis is wrong" on Tom Bilyeu's podcast a few weeks ago. While I can understand the limitations of empiricism in the field of psychology as it pertains to anxiety, if someone said that sentence as it stands, I would assume they have checked out of reality. Like I commented on that video, no one would ever hire such a person unless they were a sci-fi writer.
Maps of Meaning is complete gibberish.
carttman peterson RESPECT MY AUTHORITAE
I wondered if Bret wasn't going to argue that by reducing the numbers of girls without increasing the numbers of boys, they'd still get a population with a "warrior mentality" since so many of the men would find it harder to find partners, and that frustration drives militarism and fascism. But apparently he wasn't going that route.
that's like the 2nd draft version once you've actually thought about it though🤣
I made it to 3:50. Listening to Brett Weinstein’s voice is worse than nails on a chalkboard. Never experienced that before. Instant Rage! Couldn’t do it. I’ll leave this for the algorithm. Catch you on the next one guys.
So Bret’s idea was that the sperm and egg somehow knew about the world around them, and specifically that they were in china and said “Chinese people want to make an army. Let’s make this egg a boy”?
"i feel like the young woman in that story" rofl i have known this dude was nuts but this is the 1st piece I've seen that actually approaches this, everyone else is like "i don't understand his physics words ergo he must be generally brilliant" (even insofar as physics he seems a putz, i am not a physicist but hearing him 'trying to argue' againt stephen wolfram was next-level cringe, i think weinstein may have the most deludedly high overestimation of himself of any 'current personality' i am aware of)
aaaand i now know there are 2 crazy weinsteins, lol, it was eric who spoke with wolfram.
"We have all the people who think..." I think not!
Hitchhiker's guide to the galaxy is a great story! ...we have out own real life
Zaphod Beeblebrox-esq characters...like Elon musk and Donald Trump
It's incredibly depressing to read this the day after the 24 American election.
When he was talking about male armies and the one-child policy, i actually thought he was talking about _breeding_ specifically. That he was saying they are producing men and sending them around the world to breed other chinese or something, but maybe im reading too much subtext there.
Brett feels like he might be the singular person in the world that discovered the greatest question and no other human has meaning other than that which eventually brought him to taht question? damn.
He shouldn't worry. Doesnt sound arrogant.
1:17:20 "And another thing, I'm not mad. Please don't put it in the newspaper that I am mad."
Both of these 'gurus' were quiet, respectful and respected members of their society.
When a normal person ( specifically an academic ) is thrust from obscurity into a culture war.
And is relentlessly and possibly unfairly attacked.
It will do one of two things... frighten them to return into the shade of anonymity.
Or if befriended by one side of the culture wars, into their ranks... start fighting those that attack them.
If a side tries to destroy your reputation. Then you're more likely to run to the safety of their enemies enclave.
To be remorselessly ridiculed, for a non-iconoclast... produces a personality shift that is a pure fight or flight response.
For neither of them... is this normal. They must both literally feel like they're permanently in a state of war.
They're two academics handed a metaphorical gun and told to start shooting.
If they don't 'shoot' they will always be considered 'reactionary and by progressive extremists - evil' with their reputations sullied.
Whilst they may deeply annoy people... Weinstein in particular, may've cost people their lives or at least their health,
by some of his pandemic responses? Peterson seems pretty much benign.
They're more victims of a culture war, than irredeemable antagonists within it.
Bullshit
They've made a literal fortune from doing what they're doing.
Peterson literally works for 'the Daily Wire'. They're not victims, they're willing propagandists.
While I generally agree with your comments here, I suggest that you work at making them more succinctly if you expect anyone to actually read them.
@@commonwunder I like to hear a variety of opinions. Sometimes the comments are more interesting than the video. My comments are mostly intended to troll the self-important and encourage the thoughtful. On rare occasions the commenter falls into both categories, making things especially fun.
People are free to make decisions of their choosing medically. His advice need not be qualified imo. He never tried prescribing anyone anything.
They are not victims of a culture war. They are profiteers of the right wing obsession with a culture war. These guys used the negative public response to their arrogance and ignorance as a spring board in to a lucrative career grifting conservatives.
I was unaware how mental Bret actually is. A trained biologist having those opinions on evolutionary possiblities is so wild.
Is it really fair to use the term anti vax. To lump cautious individuals in a single group, even if they have taken every other conventional vaccine. Is it not reasonable to be cautious of new pharmaceutical products ?.
The AntiVax™ doesnt mean that someone is questioning some medicine basically.
I think it should be clear at this point. Its a character, a talking point that gathers clicks.
Like think about it, theres like a million talking heads and wannabes running around media, knowing nothing about any medicine, without medicine being their topic of choise. But they run around regurgitating things about vaccine, not usually even vaccines but a vaccine. They never talk about blood pressure medicine, cough medicine or anything medicine .
Like it begs the question, what are they doing. Why this specific vaccine is so interesting to them.
And most of all, what type of audience theyre targeting.
I dont care about vaccines or any type of medicine, Im not trying to find out about medicine and podcasts of doctors etc and Im still bombarded with these boring to death talking points about some specific vaccine.
What is going on? What are these people doing.
As soon as they went there I realized this wasn't a worthwhile critique. They are everything they are accusing Bret of being.
@@adamp108 I think I did. The hypocrisy trigger me.
@@matthewsands1572 soon true
It's telling you don't want to be lumped in with cranks but you want to hold a crank position.
For what profit is it to a man, if he gains the world, and loses his own soul?
The Weinstein brothers are like cartoon manifestations of concepts like bloviation and pomposity
I, too, despise their arrogance, but it doesn’t make them any less ingenious or correct.
Being ingenious would suggest doing something new, neither one of them does anything new. Mediocre academics with pet theories that don't go anywhere, and who resort to grifting to idiots when they fail bitterly. And I disagree about their arrogance not making them less correct. I think their arrogance has a direct causal role in their being incorrect. Less of a role than their opportunistic greed, but certainly a role.
Chris is the guy who will tell the authorities there are 3 lights when asked
Bret was such a letdown. I enjoyed his evolutionary takes on things say ~5+ years ago, heterodox ideas, etc., and then he turned into (probably always was) an absolute loon.
Yeah after he got throwed of evergreen he started to decrease in sharpness and originality to become a poor copy of right wing "intellectuals" like Peterson or Murray
@@tdb517 I agree with that, though I think I would have left that position too, the students that protested him were rather daft and unreasonably aggressive, but that is young people for ya.
@@sspbrazil yeah of course I'm not defending the students at all with that evergreen story. I just mentioned it because I believe it was kind of traumatic (quite justifiably) for weinstein
@@tdb517I agree too, but maybe the students were already onto something
Sorry folks, he was always a blowhard.
"Main character syndrome."
The Golem? Magnificent, magnificent...
OMG! I immediately thought of Gollum! 😂
Why did they seem so nervous talking about Chinas male/female ratio at 20 mins? 😂
"We need to monitor what's going on"
Yeah, and there's the bit that's even more arrogant than Bret's opening quote here.
This comment section is hilarious, clearly Bret burner accounts.
20:10 that's so racist
Why would evolution "want" armies of men, Bret? What evolutionary mechanism would produce this, Bret?
This is a bit like the Nobel Effect
What happens if Peterson begins one of his monologues with the stupid position that he typically concludes? Does he meander his way back to the somewhat reasonable?
How do those vapes produce so much smoke?
Such a shame how far some fall.
What does it say about me that I love the intro song almost as much as I love your content?
0:30 this was my line of thinking when I used to take too much acid. He is literally believing it with no drugs cause he is famous and educated 😂
When, without public knowledge or consent, it becomes legal for a teacher to help a child transition to another gender, without telling the parents, then I think there is a problem with those governing us.
Why?
Despite a multitude of moral and scientific reasons, as a taxpayer, I don't want to be on the hook for all the lawsuits coming when these kids realize they can't ever have children and sue the gov't for allowing it to happen.@@nevermorebouquet3681
Where does this happen?
Then you should be happy that that's (obviously) not legal anywhere. Unless you're trying to portray teachers who don't sweep transgenderism under the rug as "transitioning children" just because.
Verifiable citations on who, when and where this has happened.
Thanks.
Fun to see the embodiment of these familiar voices! And fun to see Matt vape and drink whilst critiquing. Thanks, guys!
and never stop moving
Matt is sooooo groovy
Has there ever been a good Weinstein?
Brett Whinestein
I'm sure there was an old wives tale re oh lots of girls... oh lots of boys ... a war , it's old wives tales from the days of 1st 2nd w/war maybe ?
relapsing peterson is not at fault for his behavior its anyone who questions his behavior that has motives dont do as i do do as i say
Yawn.
Who are these guys? I'm not often tempted to hurl insults in the comments, but here I am.
A rare example of cool skeptical, dope rational guys pointing out hysterical nonsense being spewed by conspiratorially confused crackpots
Now, now.
No need to fight “ad hominem” with “ad hominem”.
But I share your sentiment.
No one gives a shit about your insult habits.
Why do all those sec- gu s have weird voices?
I used to be super into Bret Weinstein. Watched probs 30 episodes of his podcast as they came out. I always remember his fans being absolutely bonkers even back when he was pretty moderate.
Bret is a young woman
It look like they took out the last curler in the front of his hairdo but didn’t comb it out
love this
Screw the Wuhan lab. I wanna know what lab created Bret! He looks like he’d be able to play a male version of the creature in that dumb sci fi flick ‘Splice’!
Ad hominem much?
Tucker Carlson looks like he's made of wax
Nice job on the video
Nice job building the botfarm.
Bret is very good at pointing out the rot at the heart of our irreproducible academics. He's certainly not the only one that has seen it. His audience consists largely of others who have also seen it, and not dismissed it, as you two yahoos seem to have.
Are you doing this freelance (in addition to your paid academic gigs) or have your colleagues and / or superiors pushed you into it? I'm curious.
I feel sorry for you jimluebke3869
@@831BillyDon't feel sorry... Billy is part of the super elite in-group who know the truth.
While you are a sheeple.
A conversation between Weinstein and Peterson is a debate between 'shrooms and acid.
kudos to whoever spliced in the photo of IG-88. Never not funny.
The only thing missing was blue hair on these sour petty antifa character assassins. 15 minutes of my life I'll never get back.
Now, now.
No need to fight “ad hominem” with “ad hominem”!
Even if it is true.
ANTIFA should be in CAPS as it is an acronym. Sorry to be a grammar NAZI about it. Have a nice day.
Why are Bret's eyebrows always at full mast? What a ghoul.
Dammit Bret, don't associate yourself personally with HHGTTG or anything else by Douglas Adams. It'd be like my cargo-shorts-and-SLAYER-tshirt-wearing ass saying the Barbie movie was about me and my dirtbag friends.
Thanks
Why is it bad or funny or reprehensible (and I don't know what else) to have people say "follow me, I have a vision"? This is how things work with humans. The ones that convince the populace become leaders and even create religions. If you take "gurus" that are dangerous for the things they say, ok I understand the "uncovering", but here you have people that are not dangerous, they just have different views than you. I do not follow Bret to know what he says about vaccines, but the little that I have heard him, he seems coherent and reasonable. They have big egos? So what, it's a personality trait, nothing to be ashamed of.
Both of them are public dangers for the people who take them seriously.
Real leaders are there to solve a problem and try to deliver, they aren't causing the problem and then fleece people for a solution. The reason you don't understand why is simply because you can't tell the difference and the goal of those two guys seem to be to educate people to recognize them. Of course if you think you know better, it's your life. It's impossible to save everybody.
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18:50 tucker doesnt believe in evolution. Joke is on Brett.
"When you're as right as I am, it's amazing more people don't listen to you"
I'm sure you two are amazed your channel has less than 4k subscribers.
You better hope you are not wrong.
They aren't looking to solve any of these problems.
They're looking to be on the good side of the elites, so the problems supposedly won't affect them.
Why does Brett look like he's been drinking all night?
Damn, my dude is vaping phat clouds
My life is impossible to understand. I am spending my life trying to overcome an unjust censorship doing everything I can with what I got to get published the greatest knowledge of all time. The truth is atheism is a logical fallacy that assumes God is the religious idea of the creator of the creation to conclude wrongly no creator exists because a particular idea of God doesn’t exist. Do you think my life is fun? Why don't you put yourself in my mind? Who ever said life is fair? God makes life perfectly fair because everything we do we do it to Ourself being Time and Space. God is simply everything that exist, past present and future. If the universe was designed we have to expect rationally an eternal surprise when we die. I think the death of the brain causes the mind to transform to know all, and that our perfect eternal hell and heaven. It is just an idea that can not do harm to anyone. I want to end the war and unite humanity, so what's wrong with trying? I am tired and I need to rest. I need you. All is the same and different God. We are organs of the same body. Is not the end of the war in Ukraine and Gaza what you say you want? Is not the end of religion and atheism what you say you want? The future can be bright. I want to give you hope. Thank you.
I mean this sincerely, talk to a mental health professional; please.
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Soundtrack for the Weinstein Dreamteam brought to you by Richard Fairbrass
You guys are the reason for the first amendment
This will sound arrogant.yeah. totally did. Got this dude is insufferable.
Does anyone know wtf Brett is talking about? In that interview? It sounds like just schizophrenic nonsense?
What I don't understand, and it's a question I'd like someone to ask them is, what is it exactly that these two blokes want, I mean, what do they expect to achieve from all of this? it's never ending...what is the end game for these people other than listening to the sound of their own voices? I mean, is that the goal...to live in their own echo chamber? I really don't understand where they are going or where they hope to arrive with these endless gripes with seemingly everything and everyone in the known universe. Imagine being one of these people...the endless noise inside their heads. If they weren't so casually dangerous I would pity them, but of course it is impossible to pity this degree of hubris and baffling self aggrandisement. Maybe it's enough to be a full time cry baby?
Which ones?
Peterson and Weinstein want attention and money as well as revenge on the people that hurt them.
The two in the podcast want to expose charlatans.
It’s those that haven’t accomplished anything that sit around and trivialize the accomplishments of others. You actually publish this as if it’s content and not stuck up shit talking of the sort you find in middle or high school? How embarrassing.
Maybe people like them say and behave in the way people expect them to, perhaps unconsciously. I'm not sure if it's a comedy or a tragedy.
Always mind blowing how much Brett loves the smell of his own farts.
I’m a social care worker and I’ve had four or five vaccinations/boosters and I can categorically confirm that my killer instinct has only increased by 2%. And I’m Scottish so that’s nothing 😂
Thankfully, neither of you will ever have to know what it's like to have a successful popularity campaign go to your head. You'll be squealing like a chronic case of envy or hitting a vape on camera as an explicit lack of class instead.
@@adamp108 Is that feeble attempt to dismiss the best you could come up with? lol
@@adamp108 Reading and comprehension isn't for everyone. I'm sure you have strengths in other areas.
Bret and JBP are only viewed as intellectually honest by those without the mental capacity (or willingness) to know differently.
@@Bobby12many Bret and Jordan have individual weaknesses like everyone else, but both are highly skilled in specific areas as well. I don't look at anyone as a guru or infallible and I've been critical of both when applicable, but their positive contributions are unquestionable.
Dismissing them and those who hold them in esteem, in such a simplistic way says something unfavorable about you.
@@kenhiett5266 pray tell, what exactly are their unique positive contributions? They have offered nothing novel, impactful or lasting to their individual areas of supposed expertise (outside of embarrassment). They are charlatans and increasingly misuse their platforms to spread misinformation and foolishness under the guise of "intellectual curiosity". If you don't grasp this concept, "Decoding the Gurus" is not for you.
Bret must have been watching Utopia series. 😀
classic DTG