Could I Land On A Helipad in Dubai?
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- Опубліковано 23 бер 2023
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just dropping in to appreciate the effort and dedication that you've put into recreating this with the tools at your disposal Trent, we believe you could do it 😎
Mike Patey would build him a cub that would start and land vertically. Easy...🙈
Why risk your life to do something so inconsequential and unimportant?
@@lurking0death Why waste your life seating on your couch and eating Cheetos all day?
Love the fact Trent that Freedom is on MSFS, I've been practicing ever since I saw it done. Awesome
Thank you #redbull for advancing aviation, for investing into engineering and experimentation with people like the Pateys and their team.
Hi Trent thanks for posting that.
Just some numbers for the viewers.
So density altitude in Dubai was around 2500ft at ground level. Helipad was just over 600ft in the air.
We could not reply on strong winds due to massive rotors rolling of the building so the wind was only 7kts unlike some of the super short STOL landings on the net. Basically over 12kts of wind and it was almost unflyable.
Big hunk of respect for pulling that off. I tried to replicate it in FS2020 and could not do it below 12 knots IIRC (I think the turbulences from the building are not really replicated in the sim). To be fair that was with pretty much a default Carbon Cub.
Also I loved the background clips from Mike about the aircraft build.
Even if you can't - It's great to fully investigate / practice with the flight envelope of your aircraft. Know what you as a pilot are capable of, and what your aircraft is capable of. Stay sharp, practice your skills.
As long as you do it safely!
pack a tail chute just in case..
What they did was great, but seeing Trent take off and land gives much more relevance to just what it took to pull off the stunt. In the Red Bull stunt, they did have a headwind which of course helped. Great job Trent. This is one of many parts of what makes aviation fun.
Heard of Mike Patey? lol
When I saw last week the helipad landing I was directly thinking of you Trent. So good to see you doing this in perspective. You may be proud of yourself. Nice vid.....
The Heli pad certainly added, 1000% to the difficulty of the stunt. I felt scared of heights just watching the guy’s walk around on the pad. And I was at my desk at home LOL. Congratulations to Mike and the Red Bull team.
Thanks Trent for another great video. Keep them coming. Hope all are well and safe.
What mostly added to the difficulty was the turbulence rolling off the building...
Luke has nerves of steel to pull that off. That was cool Trent, thanks for showing us the comparison. Definitely not as easy as Luke made it look.
Oh for sure. He showed some of his practice runs and I think before he left for Dubai he was making it around 90% of his landings.
One of the things I noticed with Luke’s takeoff from the Helipad, his wheels are off the pad before the lip. His dive was all for show. That RedBull Carbon Cub was a beast of a bush plane.
100% the plane has nitrous that takeoff was all show and what a show it was
The headwind will help with this as well.
I have a hard time believing that dive was all just for show as he would have lost ground effect at the end of the pad and the mains left contact just prior to the for end of it, now that's not to say he didn't dramatize the dive a little bit for the excitement of it, but I don't think it was possible to maintain level flight and idk about the rest of you but with o ly 600 feet to spare an accelerated stall doesn't sound like much fun
@@MrBlase89 maybe but if you watch the video of them making that monster plane they show it’s takeoff and it’s pretty short
@@bradszymanski9910 I'll check it out
Just started my flight training earlier this month, thanks for the constant inspiration Trent🤙🏼
That was impressive Trent, from what I saw you had the takeoff and the landing within the 118 feet. The bounce you felt would not have been there because the tail hit after what would have been the edge of the heli-pad.👍👍
Good stuff! Luke and all of you guys are great ambassadors for this Sport, Hobbie, and Life. Trent thank you for sharing and great stuff.
Wow, good job. Held my attention. Fun stuff.
The densityaltitude was around 1900ft during the attempt due to high temperature in dubai. Additionally the tower makes choppy air so they had to land with minimal headwind. That all makes it a lot harder than taking 600ft and get smooth headwind.
It is fun to play around and see if you could do it, but some people in the comment section think that this is just another Tuesday.
The Dubai landing was a crosswind of 7 k starboard to port!!
Bet Steve Henry with 44 could. Last weekend at Swamp stol his total distance was 35 feet.
Considering the work that went into the Carbon Cub, you did an awesome job!
Sparking an interest in Bush flying has taught me That with the proper headwind, even the shortest landings can become possible . I have faith trent would nail it in the right conditions👍
Because of turbulence from the building they couldn't have much wind before it was to unpredictable.
At the end of the day it's really impressive since it's a small limited pad to try and land on and not just going for a short distance on a full landing strip.
I absolutely love that you highlighted the safety aspect of it while still also showcasing the fun aspects. Masterfully done!
It sounded like Luke and Mike had to do a lot of practicing too. Thanks for your example of showing how hard it was.
Cool episode! Bravo GA!
I think one of the hard parts of that stunt is how little, and how different your visual reference is approaching to such a small elevated spot.
You just proved how difficult it was what Luke and Patey accomplished. Had Luke landed 1 foot before he did, and touch the border of the helipad, it would of had been disaster. 7 knots wind hitting that building is not easy to handle. I agree with the comment, similar to what you did but 1000% more complex. Because they made it look so easy, shows how professional they are. I believe that like you, we should all try the Red Bull challenge and see what numbers we get. Let's see more videos of the Red Bull challenge and even if we are not even close, lets post what we can do... Vans, Highlanders, Kitfoxes, Zenith...
I believe the helipad had 7kts of wind. They couldn't tolerate any more because they were getting nasty unpredictable rotors off the sides of the building. Check out the Patey video. Amazing feat in Dubai and well done Trent.
Fun video. Thanks Trent
Trent, you have put together an awesome aircraft over years. You can bet Mike watched this, and was pumped about it. While I wouldn’t consider less than 150 feet as a “safe” envelope, at least you know what the Freedom Fox is capable of should a desperate need arise. Another entertaining (and educational) video.😎
You should have invited Hal, Steve Henry and Kevin Quinn to participate as well.
Thanks for making this video it gives us more perspective what a awesome job Mike and team did in Dubai
Nice Job! I love the 'i gotta try that' attitude! Fun video for sure.
Well. another thrilling start to my day.....have a great one!
Awesome as always Trent amazing job. Your videos are always fun to watch
Good morning from Minnesota!! Great episode!
That was a great video! Really fun to watch. I liked that you talked about the consequences of the actual stunt...so much more to it than landing short.
Well done, awesome work.
Cool experiment Trent, thanks for sharing.
Nicely done Trent!
Great comparison Trent! Even though there was vast differences between planes, you were right in there. Fun to watch!
Great job Trent! FYI youtube isn't notifying me on your videos! Thanks for your content!
Always your wing man Trent 👍
Another great video 😊
Nice job Trent!
Great video. There has been a lot of trash talk about how STOL airplanes could do this, the competitions and stuff, and I think this really demonstrated that even with a light airplane, you're still going to have a lot of problems doing this.
I wonder if the density altitude corrections really simulated what Luke was going through, and if 118 versus 80 was accurate, given temperature and other variables.
Still, thanks for doing this and showing it off.
The pilot from Red Bull-WOW. Trent for attempting this - Thankyou. Great video - love your content and enthusiasm! Fly safe✌️👍
Mike Patey made a carbon fiber slider so that if Luke came up a little bit short, nothing would happened. Mike also added stronger bracing at the tail wheel to support the extra load of an impact.
Cool drone footage at the end!
Killing it! Great get at it.
Great flying Trent! For kicks I tried this with your MSFS Kitfox, multiple fails and a bent virtual Kitfox. Much respect to you and the RB pilot!
Thanks for doing this! It really helps put into perspective what Luke, Mike and the Red Bull team truly accomplished.
I seriously wish you hadnt completely given away you were about to nail the landing with the climactic music.
You gave us a real perspective on difficulty of this stunt. Thanx for tackling this task.
Just awesome!!!! THANK YOU!! I bought Harry's razors - now I need to buy AG1 Keep those videos coming!! Hope you are at Oshkosh!!
Great video of short landing with your KitFox
Very well done. The Red Bull stunt was awesome. You guys put on a great show as well and thx.
The only complaint I’d have. Is that the density altitude in Dubai would be higher than just standard sea level no? Surly the super high temperatures would make a massive difference? Which makes the whole stunt even more impressive
Great video again. Always practical, beautiful to see, full of sound advices and plenty of fun to watch !
I am so happy you made this video ! I tried to land on the Dubai helipad on FS2020 with your Freedomfox and wow, how hard it is difficult to figure out the right approach ! The fact it is up in the air like a nest makes everything a lot more difficult. The worst is the center of gravity that is not modified on the Freedomfox as it has been on the RedBull plane ! So I finally succeeded after more than 20 tries to get it "quite hard" on the pad and STAY there... But my plane had its tail up and its nose down ! The propeller broken for sure, but the plane still intact...
So If you have the opportunity to do it yourself on FS2020 and share with us the 30 sec video clip of it, it would be very nice !!!
Nice flying!
Good morning as well and yall rock for doing this mad skills bro👊🙏😎
Hey, this was a fun one. Trying it out in a safe manner and enjoying the challenge, while keeping it in perspective. Cool day out in the sky.
So sick man love this channel so much you never disappoint when you upload
Awesome Video!! What a fun experiment and I'm sure you polished some of your mad skills. I can't wait to get a bush plane and fly out to Dead Cow!
Lol I love your spirit!!!!! Go Trent!!!!
That was mint, thanks.
Well done Trent. That was fun.
More fantastic content!
Some precision flying!
Hi Trent,
I enjoyed the ending footage with the music. It looked like a peaceful flight. You can now say if you ever had an engine out with nothing but trees in sight, you could put it into someone's back yard. May there never be a need to do so. That was an incredible Red Bull video. You both have some serious skills.
Take care,
Be safe.
The air in Dubai is denser down at sea level, making it easier, they had a 5-7 kt headwind and similarly cool temps to your situation.
Cool. I drive on that road with my side by side. Its pretty loose even though it looks packed. Good for whipping the tail around.
Awesome vid! Hope you are well! :)
Trent thank you for making the ad time bar
Dude. That was awesome.
Very nice Trent...
Trent, I just landed the freedom fox on there last night on flight sim so the answer is obviously yes then😂
Epic! Case closed then!
So awesome
Fantastic job
A circle so 80' at its longest point, anything left or right of a perfect center line would shorten the available length.
Seems like it would have been a piece of cake for that Henry dude with his 300hp highlander to land on the heli pad. Watched your last video, you made a comment about an engine out over the ocean, in that scenario why not make a steeper approach or land long to maintain a higher altitude.
@1:33 NOW I know where those hand prints come from in the MSFS 42 FreedomFox/Kitfox model 😆
Outstanding video, and well done on pulling off the landing!
Curious if you’ve ever tried a steep, low-energy approach for STOL landings? Backcountry Aviation have some videos going over it. I’d be interested to hear your thoughts on it.
Ive always loved Red Bulls commitment to weird motorsports. The large expense of a RB is partially a ticket purchase the way I look at it
Steve Henry could have probably done it without modifications. Just wrap the plane and Go.
I’d like to see Trent and Mike Patey create something together. Mike’s work on the Dubai helipad landing (and takeoff with nitro) made that an acceptable risk. I don’t think they would have tried it without his mods.
That’s awesome! Cool comparison too. I know all the bush plane/ stol guys have planes that can do it but so much time, money and safety went in to make it work.
Steve Henry always impresses, but that plane usually doesn’t fly to events, I guess in a bid to save the limited lifespan of an engine pumping that hard.
Good job! I'd call it a great success!
DUDE!!!! THAT WAS TOTALLY IT!!! So awesome!
I am typing this 1 minute 40 into your video. Two things to consider here - Ground effect and wind speed. I would think that high up above the ocean, the wind must be constant and stable. I figure you just hang around and wait for a nice strong wind in a favorable direction and you attempt it. I think they said 27 metres diameter. He landed in 20m. Not to take anything away from the Red Bull boys. That was seriously impressive.
For your song, Molly Hatchet, Flirtin with Disaster.
Pretty impressive Trent! Steve Henry look out!🤠👍
The first big danger of landing on an elevated helipad is landing short.
Ouch. Damn right.
And it only starts there.
YES GREAT JOB TRENT, AND WITH NO HEAD WIND.
Impressive Trent! I think any plane that can touch down and stop within 150 feet is performing quite a feat. I know the one off and/or specialty made planes for STOL comps can do that all day, but you can do it with a plane that has not gone full out crazy with modifications. Nice. Also, in Mike Patey's video he noted that they needed 7 knots of headwind minimum and 8 knots of headwind maximum to pull off the landing on the helipad. It looked like your experiment was in a no wind condition. A 7 knot headwind would have made your takeoffs and landings even a little shorter.
With a 40kt headwind, you can land on any static spot.
I was going to say the same thing.
Could land Mike's Cub rolling backwards with that wind
Not on that helipad. With 40 kts of wind, they'd have had so much turbulence (rotors etc) that landing would have been impossible.
Very cool!!
It’s Friday and Trent dropped a new video. Life is good
great job! Ultimate pucker factor on top of that pad for sure! Ya, we can t/o and land short but up on that pad with swirling wind and ZERO options. CRAZY!
I t/o and land on oil field pads in my CH750. 300' square and usually built up 2' or 3 ' from ground level and that is pucker enough for me!
I wonder how many Stoll competitors will install a fuel tank in their baggage compartment on their next competition run to allow harder braking.
right here , 'right now' by halen would be perfect description of your landing/flying
Sea level on a cool day, and a HEADWIND!
That was pretty awesome.
Nice try...
Don't forget, Luke had some serious wind issues also.
Thanks takin us along and for sharing. 🏁🇺🇸👍
So dope!!!
So excited to see you try this! As soon as I saw the stunt on RedBull's TT, I commented, "Trent Palmer, Cory, Hal, Steve, Mike, could have pulled that off" 😂
Great video! Just realized there was one factor that you forgot to mention that benefited you..... You had the bonus of ground effect, allowing you to fly slower coming in for the landing. Luke didn't have that till he reached the helipad. Just a quick observation!
F%^CK YEAH! Great work Trent!👊
A strong headwind is the key for short T/O's and Landings. Without that things can and will get dicey on very short strips. Regards, Jim the Brit in NI UK
*Wow, this video truly gave me a better insight into really how special that stunt was..* 🤯