Depends if I am in the group. But I generally am in the middle. The amount of cars I see drift across the line are disturbing. So I give my self enough space. Even if they are not distracted. I have the ability to give space to a car that reacts to something that made them come over the line. I alsoook to see the terrains on my right off the road…to see if I can ride it if needed. We were in a heavy motorcycle area and were stunned at the about of people who had a whole lane and road so close to the line those handle bars were a bit over. A four wheeler who doesn’t know how to drive is only going to make more mistakes if you scare them 😂. IMO.
@@jeanaesday This is an awesome point! Car that end up just over the line! YES! Great point. It is a very common occurence. I need to adjust to this actually. Thank you for showing me a massive blind spot I had on this topic 😮😃👍
I ride near the centre of the road until there is approaching traffic when I move to the outside. The reason people say not to ride near the centre is because they are protecting themselves from opposing trafic going wide of their lane. My philosophy is that the whole lane is mine, so I use it all, and my lane position depends on the situation.
This is the correct mentality. I ride in position 1 as well and do just what you describe. Pros and cons to all of it but to me this is the most sound logic.
I choose lane position 1 most of the time. Hardly ever choose position 2 or 3. 2 is bad for reasons you say - oil, debris and other items tend to be in lane position 2 and when those things are hit they usually get kicked to the edge of the road towards lane position 3. Lane position 1 is very visible to oncoming traffic. It's very visible to your own flow of traffic. It's typically (but not always) the 'cleanest' part of the lane. Lane position 1 will also give you best line of sight on any oncoming cars making a left turn across you.
I tend to sit on my motorbike, it's generally the easiest place to ride if from.😂 I tend to sit a little right of the middle, when following traffic it makes good for an escape route
It's situational for me. Generally on the right. If I'm riding with a partner, opposite side of him/her to stay in their mirror. I never ride in the center because that's where oil, a/c condensation, etc. drips from cars, reducing your brake time in a panic stop.
@@GermanJobbies let's not talk about edibles... was sick as a dog on Sunday. I think I am allergic to melatonin. Had one to make me sleep and had vertigo for most of sunday.could not get out of bed till around 1 due to dizzy and wanting to toss cookies all morning
@@GermanJobbies to be honest, single lane first position, two lane 3 position, highway 3 position. But I am all over the lane with pot holes and traffic and bends and turns.
Been riding for over 40 years and I always ride the right side of the lane, especially on two way straight roads with oncoming traffic (US), Twisties is another story - in the middle. Intersections , right or left so as to avoid oil, antifreeze,etc. Warned my buddy to not ride close the white line and sure enough , he got smacked. It was ugly. So many impatient a-holes nowadays that pass in the worst areas.I don't ride to the right as to get into gravel or debris, but I have enough room to avoid one of the aforementioned lemmings. Served me well and when I see a rider near the line, I say it's just a matter of time.
@@GermanJobbies The candy apple red little jet is in the garage right now. Gonna take my lady friend out in a bit.Lot easier than that overgrown DE. Love it.
I sit in the middle. Depends on the road. If its the countryside road, I am taking up all the room! Sometimes I sit close to the middle white line to see ahead of the traffic. :)
Road position should be chosen based on your observations. Mainly you should put your bike where it is immediately safest and gives the best view of the road ahead.
My default is to cruise near the center line; driver's side. It gives more visibility to traffic in either direction for both me and others on the road. Also, there is always an out available going towards the right side of the road if needed. All this goes out the window on tight mountain roads, of course. But I don't consider that cruising.
Kinda same as you on straight wide roads, position for best visibility of the road ahead on the twisties, and defensively when around other road users. I'll often throw a little weave on my line, if there is a car that looks dumb/distracted at a tee junction waiting to join the road I am on. It catches their eye more. Sitting back and nearside can often help to grab an overtake, if you get a view of the road ahead from the inside of a long sweeping curve. But this all happens naturally without thinking these days. I kind of feel that if you need to think too hard about riding, your probably doing it wrong.
I prefer the middle or outside, depending on road condition. We live in a scenic area frequented by bikes and there are far too many that hug the center line. If I'm in my car, centered in my lane, and I have to pull towards the side to avoid the risk of catching an oncoming rider's handle bar, they're in the wrong place. Happens every day during the riding season here.
@@GermanJobbies I'm a rider, but mostly dual sport and enduro stuff. What gets me is how often I'll make eye contact with an oncoming rider, typically on a Harley, and they have a defiant look as though they're saying with their eyes "make way for me, I'm a tough guy". I'm thinking "you putz, you're still upright because I moved". It doesn't matter where your tires are in the lane, it matters where your handlebars are.
@@LongPondNH The more expensive the bike, the more right they have to the road eh 🤣🤣 I'd love to get off road more but we don't have many opportunities here 🤮
Here the middle is often too rough, many roads here force you into one of the tire paths. And on the windy roads trucks and cars often cross the center line. So I ride the outside tire track on the windy road and the inside tire lane if the road is straight.
Depends if I am in the group. But I generally am in the middle. The amount of cars I see drift across the line are disturbing. So I give my self enough space.
Even if they are not distracted. I have the ability to give space to a car that reacts to something that made them come over the line.
I alsoook to see the terrains on my right off the road…to see if I can ride it if needed.
We were in a heavy motorcycle area and were stunned at the about of people who had a whole lane and road so close to the line those handle bars were a bit over.
A four wheeler who doesn’t know how to drive is only going to make more mistakes if you scare them 😂. IMO.
@@jeanaesday This is an awesome point! Car that end up just over the line! YES! Great point. It is a very common occurence. I need to adjust to this actually. Thank you for showing me a massive blind spot I had on this topic 😮😃👍
I'm all over the place and it's completely up to the situation I'm in. Road condition, traffic, visibility and so on.
The "Superpostion" eh 🤣 yeah it shouldn't be just one fixed for all situation position eh.
I use all three positions depending on what the situation is around me. Position 2 is the rarest, though.
This seems to be the consensus 😁😁
I ride near the centre of the road until there is approaching traffic when I move to the outside.
The reason people say not to ride near the centre is because they are protecting themselves from opposing trafic going wide of their lane.
My philosophy is that the whole lane is mine, so I use it all, and my lane position depends on the situation.
@@TheRealGOAT6 Great logic 😎 I think this approach is probably THE best.
This is the correct mentality. I ride in position 1 as well and do just what you describe. Pros and cons to all of it but to me this is the most sound logic.
I choose lane position 1 most of the time. Hardly ever choose position 2 or 3. 2 is bad for reasons you say - oil, debris and other items tend to be in lane position 2 and when those things are hit they usually get kicked to the edge of the road towards lane position 3. Lane position 1 is very visible to oncoming traffic. It's very visible to your own flow of traffic. It's typically (but not always) the 'cleanest' part of the lane. Lane position 1 will also give you best line of sight on any oncoming cars making a left turn across you.
I tend to sit on my motorbike, it's generally the easiest place to ride if from.😂
I tend to sit a little right of the middle, when following traffic it makes good for an escape route
Radical approach, ON the motorcycle! 🤔🤣Yeah you're like me, rut number two position 🤣
I'm all over the place, depends on the road surface, view needed etc etc etc. If straight line, just right of centre. position 2.5
The "Dynamic" position 👍aye gotta be the best approach I think-
When I sit on the toilet it's always the middle 😂
You lot got toilets down there yet? I bet u aim to hear the perfect plop.
It's situational for me. Generally on the right. If I'm riding with a partner, opposite side of him/her to stay in their mirror. I never ride in the center because that's where oil, a/c condensation, etc. drips from cars, reducing your brake time in a panic stop.
I try to avoid the center like the plague for the same reasons. But yeah the situation is the deciding factor though in the end. 🙂😅
All three pending on traffic and turns.
It's those edibles that make you do that 🤣🤣
@@GermanJobbies let's not talk about edibles... was sick as a dog on Sunday. I think I am allergic to melatonin. Had one to make me sleep and had vertigo for most of sunday.could not get out of bed till around 1 due to dizzy and wanting to toss cookies all morning
@@GermanJobbies to be honest, single lane first position, two lane 3 position, highway 3 position. But I am all over the lane with pot holes and traffic and bends and turns.
@@GermanJobbies and no, I did not watch it to the end, or like it , I think I unsubbed and your crazy to think I will write something. 😂
@@BlakesPipes Probably best attitude I reckon mate
Been riding for over 40 years and I always ride the right side of the lane, especially on two way straight roads with oncoming traffic (US), Twisties is another story - in the middle. Intersections , right or left so as to avoid oil, antifreeze,etc. Warned my buddy to not ride close the white line and sure enough , he got smacked. It was ugly. So many impatient a-holes nowadays that pass in the worst areas.I don't ride to the right as to get into gravel or debris, but I have enough room to avoid one of the aforementioned lemmings. Served me well and when I see a rider near the line, I say it's just a matter of time.
We need eyes like hawks out there. Not like mine 🤣 when's the new beast appearing dude? BTW that will be no light hike either😮
@@GermanJobbies The candy apple red little jet is in the garage right now. Gonna take my lady friend out in a bit.Lot easier than that overgrown DE. Love it.
@@FrankBonessa Lovely mate. I wish you all the best with it. Cracking machine 🤙😁
I sit in the middle. Depends on the road. If its the countryside road, I am taking up all the room! Sometimes I sit close to the middle white line to see ahead of the traffic. :)
@@Vikki_Horton I think the middle is pretty good total avoidance options 🤠 but I like to hog the line 😅
@@GermanJobbies I don't blame you, sometimes I hog the line when I want to keep a numpty at bay.
Road position should be chosen based on your observations. Mainly you should put your bike where it is immediately safest and gives the best view of the road ahead.
That's proper advice! 👍👍
I sit on my bike.
Tart! 🤣😉
@@GermanJobbies sorry.
You got a shout out in the video before this one
@@GermanJobbies I’ll have to go back and watch it.
My default is to cruise near the center line; driver's side. It gives more visibility to traffic in either direction for both me and others on the road. Also, there is always an out available going towards the right side of the road if needed.
All this goes out the window on tight mountain roads, of course. But I don't consider that cruising.
@@brentlanyon4654 Yeah and it puts you right in the driver in fronts side mirror. Good logic about the escape option.👍🤠
I sit in the driver position which looks the same as your good self 👍🏻
It's a great position to stalk your next overtake victim 🙂👍
@@GermanJobbies 😂👍🏻
Kinda same as you on straight wide roads, position for best visibility of the road ahead on the twisties, and defensively when around other road users.
I'll often throw a little weave on my line, if there is a car that looks dumb/distracted at a tee junction waiting to join the road I am on. It catches their eye more.
Sitting back and nearside can often help to grab an overtake, if you get a view of the road ahead from the inside of a long sweeping curve.
But this all happens naturally without thinking these days. I kind of feel that if you need to think too hard about riding, your probably doing it wrong.
Good points Stevie. I guess it's knowing the best position for the given situation. Yeah for wide, straight stuff me too, between centre and middle. 👍
I have to dodge potholes and collapsed drain covers so I'm all over the road lol
Aye Sean but you'll no let the council fix them! 🤣🤣🤣🤣😉
How to say you live in the UK without saying you live in the UK
@GermanJobbies lol very true Dunc 🤣🤣🤣
@@tomstc 🤣🤣👍
I prefer the middle or outside, depending on road condition. We live in a scenic area frequented by bikes and there are far too many that hug the center line. If I'm in my car, centered in my lane, and I have to pull towards the side to avoid the risk of catching an oncoming rider's handle bar, they're in the wrong place. Happens every day during the riding season here.
Oh man yeah bikers on popular roads are nightmares! Fo it myself sometimes 😬
@@GermanJobbies I'm a rider, but mostly dual sport and enduro stuff. What gets me is how often I'll make eye contact with an oncoming rider, typically on a Harley, and they have a defiant look as though they're saying with their eyes "make way for me, I'm a tough guy". I'm thinking "you putz, you're still upright because I moved".
It doesn't matter where your tires are in the lane, it matters where your handlebars are.
@@LongPondNH The more expensive the bike, the more right they have to the road eh 🤣🤣 I'd love to get off road more but we don't have many opportunities here 🤮
@@GermanJobbies Come visit!
@@LongPondNH where are you? 😅In the U.S.?
Here the middle is often too rough, many roads here force you into one of the tire paths. And on the windy roads trucks and cars often cross the center line. So I ride the outside tire track on the windy road and the inside tire lane if the road is straight.
@@whatsup3270 Good point actually, the middle part is uneven a lot of the time cause of truck ruts either side. Its not easy out there is it! 🤠😅
I ride where you do about 15-17 inches in from middle white line.
I bet you actually measure the right distance with a measuring tape too eh 🤣🤣
Middle to outer for me and never on nearside.
Yup unless there's a lorry coming and or its raining 😁
Just a little bit left of the center, in line with the driver’s seat from a car.
This position is the winner of all possible one 😅😅😉😉
On the black soft bit !!
@@WeeGee58 yeah but do you have a black hard thing strapped on to the seat? 🤔🤣🤣
@@GermanJobbies improves cornering grip on the seat mate !
@@WeeGee58 🤣🤣🤣 I'll take your word for it
@@GermanJobbies 😂😂😂😂