Sapphire Pulse RX5700 + Arctic Accelero Xtreme IV Installation
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- Опубліковано 12 гру 2019
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►i7-6700k@4.5ghz 1.29v /w Cryorig H7 Plus - Delidded /w Conductonaut
►Sapphire RX 5700 Pulse 8gb + Arctic Xtreme IV Cooler
►2x8gb 3000mhz DDR4 G.Skill Ripjaws V
►MSI Z170A Gaming Pro Motherboard
►Seasonic Platinum 660XP 660W
►Lexar NM500 NVMe 512gb OS+Programs
►Sandisk Ultra II 960gb Media+Recording
►Sandisk Ultra II 960gb Games
►Tecware Forge Tower
►Windows 10 Home x64 v1903
►SpecterPro 34" UWQHD Curved Gaming Monitor 3440x1440 100hz
►HyperX Cloud Alpha Headset
►Logitech G403 Mouse
►Tecware Phantom RGB Keyboard
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*Re-mounted this with more thermal paste(cryorig CP7) & full size thermal pads for the backplate, huge hotspot temp reduction.*
ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
It was nice of them to include that expansion slot bracket. I'm sure the gpu sag without it would be massive
thanks for the vid, I got one second hand, I was thinking the same about the full size thermal pad! going to watch follow up video now!
Clean work and great tips!
This guy explained the installation process better than the actual manufacturer
Bro.. AMAZING video.
Damn, excellent video answering so many questions I had to even consider this.
I just didn't want to go aftermarket cooling at all anymore and sell my card because there's so many things to consider and there's no information on them because my specific scenario just isn't common.
I've got a 5700xt evoke, which has a similar pcb to the pulse but different to reference. While putting custom cooling on reference has been done and explained many times before, putting it on an aftermarket pcb hasn't been done much. Let alone the assembly process being shown AND explained in detail.
Like I looked up the Arctic and Kraken G12 to be compatible with my evoke, but it's all unknown or simply unsupported while it's quite universal. Before I'm going all in on something like this I'm considering a trade with someone who already mounted an arctic iv on his Asrock 5700xt Challenger but it didn't fit in his case...
Next time I'm buying a gpu I'm going to buy the most silent, enormous and cool card that's been extensively reviewed because I've spent more time browsing the internet and watching videos than actually been gaming.
I hear this stupid thing trough my case, trough my headphones sound and trough the active noise cancelation too. It's unbearable and a shame to MSI.
Thanks! & yes thats exactly why I shared it as I had the same issue looking for information with the xtreme IV on aftermarket cards. One other thing I forgot to mention is the backplate is actually a perfect fit for the PCB which is nice too.
As for audio through your headphones.. It could be a grounding issue, or a ground loop if you are powering your monitor & tower through different wall outlets(its best to get a power strip and plug everything through the one outlet to avoid that).. Or simply line noise interference which can be caused by things like Wifi//phone near your power cables,, cheap model AVRs or UPS,, or something internal//motherboard causing it.... In which case an external USB soundcard to plug your audio into might be the best solution.
I wonder how many units Accelero is selling. Why they're not into making videos of assembly process for at least some cards. People would watch and got encouraged in buying the product.
Thank you for the review, I have RX 5700 with one broken fan very loud and I came across this product then I searched for compatibility and review, very helpful video. I'm going to buy it.
Ah, what model is it? Sometimes you can get a replacement fan for very cheap depending on the model.
@@Jo3yization MSI Mech
@@AzzozAlHasani you could also remove the fans and zip ties some 120 mm fans on there, you get slightly better performance and its probably cheaper
4:03 if it's not coming off I would try twisting it well pulling up gently, that usually does the trick.
You should have used furmark gpu stress test to really test out the difference for both of the coolers.
ok..but you did not mount those aluminum parts on the memories, "or you can see it in the movie", thanks for the video ... and I want to mount this cooler on a radeon 5700 xt video card, will it be ok the temperatures ??? THX!
The Xtreme IV does not come with direct contact heatsinks as standard & instead attempts to cool with the large backplate so I installed it with normal config first, but I'll be adding heatsinks soon, same as the ones given with the Accelero Xtreme III.
@@Jo3yization
ok..I did not know ,, I had extremes 3 and it cools well a video card amd 280x ,,, now I have a radeon rx 5700 xt and so he wants to mount extremes 4, for better cooling ,,,, I wait for your video .... let's see what results you get after installing the heatsink! thanks!
Re-mounted this with more thermal paste(cryorig CP7) & full size thermal pads for the backplate, huge hotspot temp reduction.
ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
I have a Sapphire Pulse 5700xt.. Hotspot temps are a bit hot (85-90 C, well at least hot for me), also avg temps exceeds 70c. Maybe I could live with that, I don't like it though. My concern is that there has to be a headroom if thermal paste wears off, and there is not. Also there is that turbine sound under stress, and it is extremely annoying. I had a 1070 + Arctic Accelero III, it was almost soundless, and avg (not hotspot) temps were in the low 50s. Can Accelero IV do the same with 5700 xt in your opinion? Even a few C decrease would be fine if that comes with silence!
I think the XT will just run a little hotter than my tests due to the extra cores, but an overall temp decrease should still be possible,,, with the Arctic accelero and a decent undervolt(keeping boost under 2000) the max temps should be roughly what I'm getting in this 2000mhz+ OC test I did here: ua-cam.com/video/kwbHQfDvsUc/v-deo.html .. The arctic accelero at max speed is also basically silent compared to the stock Pulse fans that hit 3000rpm.
Also check my re-mount video where I replaced the backplate film with full-size thermal pads, this can help a lot as heat does not dissipate through the PCB in a straight line, it spreads outwards from the core & VRAM chips. So adding larger thermal pads can make a significant difference. ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
With a tuned undervolt I think you should be able to get hotspot temps down around 80C depending on how aggressive you are with the undervolt & clockspeed, and at the very least you'll get a significant noise reduction.
I need answers! I've looked everywhere and I cannot figure out what aftermarket cooler will work with my asrock 5700xt challenger, I know it is supposed to have high temps but im not comfortable with the temps im reaching, does anyone know if this cooler will work on my gpu and if not which cooler will? Thank you!
The Challenger PCB layout looks pretty standard & the Arctic Xtreme IV is designed to be universal, you just have to be prepared for the tedious install process for cutting the plastic film unless you take the full-size thermal pad approach. 👍
@@Jo3yization okay thank you so much!
No worries, just be aware the install process takes some time and you dont want to accidentally forget anything important such as the backing foam or washers, you also want to make sure you tighten the screws evenly in a CROSS pattern(so top left, bottom right, bottom left, top right) little by little. You can also order some 200x200 thermal pads to make the backplate installation much easier and improve temps further, as it will give full coverage you dont have to worry about cutting any film apart from a small square for the backing foam. I swapped my standard install to full-size pads in this video which reduced hotspot & VRAM temps even more. ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
I would like to know if the visiontek rx 5700 is compatible with Mobos msi B450 pro-vdh or asus B450 a
Yep it's compatible,, any AIB RX 5700 model will work on any chipset with a PCIe slot & PCIe 4.0 is backwards compatible with older PCIe standards,, it's fine to mix & match brands of Mobo & GPU too.
@@Jo3yization thanksss! I will take advantage of the sale that has dell right now in that graphic card
You think I'm going to be fine just using this backplate and not glue heatsinks to the memory chips? Thinking about buying this.
Well this video was without direct heatsinks, which I add in the follow up video to reduce hotspot & VRAM further, if your goal is lower GPU core temps with lower noise, I think its fine without adding heatsinks, but if you want *all* temps to be lower, full size thermal pads + heatsinks will help. I would lean towards full-size thermal pads being more beneficial than direct contact heatsinks though, since heat radiates outwards through the PCB not in a straight line & the backplate is much larger than a few small heatsinks. ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
www.profesionalreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/07/AMD-Radeon-RX-5700-XT-review-33.jpg - You can also see that the rear of the core(that they have a foam protector for) also gets very hot, which is part of the reason I chose to remove it when adding a full-size thermal pad with the goal of lowering hotspot temp, but went for a slightly thicker pad for safety. Hotspot & VRAM could likely be reduced even further with a slightly thinner pad than what I used, maybe 1-2mm, but it would be a 'do so at your own risk' when deviating from Arctic guidelines, as for myself, 3mm has proven safe so far.
@@Jo3yization Thanks for the time and input. I'll do the full thermal pads, I think that's easier. I just don't want the gluing part as I may have to sell this later and the buyer probably won't want those stuff. With thermal pads only, it's clean. Thank you!
Welcome & yep that would be the best move,, GL with the install & let us know how it goes if you get the free time :D.
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i see your video again,,,today i mounting arctic extreme 4!! you will see temps radeon rx 5700xt on my chanell...:))thx for video my friend!
I recommend people to buy copper or aluminum vram chipset heatsinks with hermal adhesive pads pre isntalled. I woudn't leave my vrams bare without any heatsink on it. those vram heatsinks are very cheap and they dont reuqşre thermal glue
It depends, a thin layer of silicone adhesive holds well & isnt too hard to remove, had to remove them when going back to stock cooler after changing to a smaller case & motherboard(clearance issues), the free adhesive that comes with small heatsinks tends to fall of rather easily when upside down which is why I use adhesives now, but there may be some heatsinks that come with higher quality adhesive than others, you'd have to be lucky to find them.
I had to remove the gripper things because they interfered with the installation of the card.
Yes sometimes they can hit the PCIe clip *or* motherboard heatsinks especially a smaller board, if you can't reposition then not much you can do but remove them and hope for the best.
@@Jo3yization So far no problem. I put it on an RX580, so the board isn't very big. Honestly, the four screws that hold the cooler to the PCB and backplate seem like enough.
Ah that sounds fine then, on shorter PCB should be plenty. It's only the rear half VRM on longer cards that really need it, but you could go direct heatsinks on the chipside worst case scenario, or slightly thicker thermal pads.
Hello, I have a MSI RX 5700 Mech OC and I am reaching about 100°. Iknow it's designed for that but I am not comfortable with it (Loud). I am not that experienced in building PCs but I don't like the noise. What do you recommend? Will it fit? Nice video by the way.
Yes it should fit, but the install process is tedious which may be a bit much if you arent too familiar with building but its still possible if you are careful and follow the instructions + order some full size thermal pads(much easier process)..So you could either go for the Xtreme IV, OR if the install seems a bit hard, would selling your GPU be a possibility? You could then upgrade to a Sapphire Nitro+ or Red Devil model.
A couple things you can try before any of the above is go to performance>tuning in radeon settings, run undervolt option, write down the mV value it gives you then switch to manual mode and put that value in the rightmost clockspeed box as highlighted in blue here: i.imgur.com/za3eIL7.jpg - Then create a custom fan curve so the fans spin up to ~60-70% sooner but only push towards 100% at very high temperatures, simply having the fans spin up faster at say,, 65C will help keep the hotspot down when combined with undervolt, and finally depending on the games you play, use a FPS limiter to around the max refresh rate of your monitor or slightly under, this alone can drop hotspot temps by another 5-10c or more depending on the game compared to running uncapped where the GPU will hit 99% & run full throttle all the time.
@@Jo3yization Thank you. Did the things you said and now I am testing. One Subscriber more!
Nice hope the hotspot temps improve! It makes a huge difference for me as the hotspot can get high even with Xtreme IV if I leave voltage stock and fps uncapped in certain titles.
@@Jo3yization Sadly, there was no change (maybe 1-2°). What do you recommend now?
If undervolting didnt help I would be concerned about case airflow & fan speeds, did you try checking if an aggressive fan speed helps? Might be worth doing a side panel on/off test too, as a noteworthy decrease in temps with the side panel off can indicate an airflow issue. Also what are you using to hit 100c hotspot? FPS caps can make a big difference unless you are trying to push maximum fps on a 144hz+ monitor too, if you are using a tool like furmark and hitting 100, that would be normal.
Installiation pretty difficult, and almost no vrms and vram cooling?
The backplate cools the VRM & VRAM through the PCB. I did an updated install /w full-size thermal pads & got even better results.
It's good? My saphire pulse Rx 5700 xt it's getting to 100°+ really fast and I'm not pc expert Im just worried and searching for a solution
Ya its good, but as to whether you should change coolers It depends, as installing a new cooler will void your warranty, if you're not 100% confident to do so then it would be better to just leave the card as it is(as long as its performing well,, 100c hotspot is still within spec).
You could simply tune a custom fan profile in adrenaline drivers as you can see on the right-hand side of this image to get the temps down(at the cost of a little more noise). i.imgur.com/Sni5PbK.jpg Just tune the profile so the noise is acceptable for your preference. You could also undervolt a bit using the 'undervolt' option under the tuning section too as its a good way to bring temps down, lowering the peak boost to 1900mhz if its up at 2000mhz will also help with temps a lot with neglible performance impact.
@@Jo3yization Thanks a lot it helped me so much I need to learn more
Right now playing it's between 80 to 95 it's still hot but it's not 100 + all the time so it improves I have a custom fan settings was the first thing I tried but not change much
Maybe with the cooler but I don't know how much it will help
Welcome :) A cooler upgrade will help for sure but given the lockdowns and slow shipping there's another thing you can try first,,go into Performance tab>tuning where you set your fan profile.. Save your profile in the top right if you havent already so the fan settings are saved, then put the tuning control back to 'automatic' and click the 'undervolt' button, it should popup with a voltage reading when its done(for example '968mV'), remember that reading, then set the control back to manual, load your fan profile back in the top right,, then, enabled GPU tuning>advanced control and change the rightmost voltage to the undervolt reading that you got.
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That might help lower temps a lot. Then while gaming if there's any glitching/artifacts/flicker etc. you can just add about +5mV back to that voltage incase the undervolt isnt 100% stable. Then just enjoy and see if temps are lower.
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Here's mine as an example i.imgur.com/Sni5PbK.jpg ,, I can overclock much higher with good temps but to be honest for most purposes even on a non-XT at 1750mhz//965mV the performance is very good. On a XT model the boost and voltage at load are a bit higher around 1900-2000mhz which leads to the 90c+ temps, so you could undervolt and even lower the boost speed down to 1850mhz to get much better temps & stability.
@@Jo3yization wow I'm going to try , some time ago I find a underclock recommendation when I try I goes in lower temp but it crashes a lot he use it in 2000hz but with higher Vram frecuency that didn't work for me
Also y try the auto undervolt but only that i didn't think in change the rest like you say so let's see
(And also I start using the custom color and contrast from your other tutorial and It looks so awesome)
Well this work with the pulse xt version ?
It should work fine. Mounting is basically the same.
Was this upgrade "necessary" to run 3440x1440?
Nope its purely an enthusiast upgrade for running higher turbo speeds with less noise or OCing for benchmarks, the stock cooler does it just fine though, even the stock GPU clock(around 1750mhz) runs ultrawide fairly well if you're willing to adjust the settings down a little or use render scaling to 75%(2560x1080).
Good. I built my first system with the msi mech oc which hit those rates. My CPU (2700) might give me trouble. But I'm coming from console so I don't have much to gauge my system for monitor choice. You have fulfilled my need lol
how temp hotspot
Check this vid, I ended up remounting with a full PCB Thermal Pad,, Hotspot temps are great,,
Anyone 1080ti zotac mini please help?
no cooling for vram? :D lol
I purposely went without additional direct contact heatsinks to see the stock Arctic IV performance, and followed up with this video using a full-size thermal pad(could have went thinner for possibly better gains) and some direct contact heatsinks; ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html GDDR6 is flipchip, meaning, it can be cooled effectively through the backside of the PCB & the backplate is actually doing something, it just didnt have enough thermal coverage//padding the first time around for higher efficiency.
I am not an electronic expert but touching your graphic card PCB with bare hands can cost you lots of money one day ;-)
Yep, make sure to discharge properly before touching & avoid altogether if possible. Static can kill a capacitor without the user noticing.
@@Jo3yization static is your least problem - I doubt someone is stupid enough to touch electronic without discharging hands or using discharge rings or whatever it is called in English ;-)
I am talking more about moist on your hands, fat, grit, various minerals that tend to corrode PCB
By how many years do you assume the damage will take place? This will be an interesting experiment to follow aging on my 3yr old 1070 Ti(also with xtreme IV) where I believe I probably did the same thing hehe. Thanks for the heads up though.
@@Jo3yization I do on my cars "burn out" so nothing can deposit inside my engine.
I guess if you run your card flat out, it will burn everything out :-D
Ah thats a nice idea, I do the same with my bike every now and then heheh, I did to some max OC benching already which saw the hotspot get fairly high(~108C) hopefully thats enough.
If someone is looking for suitable heatsinks - www.arctic.ac/Accelero-Xtreme-III-Heatsink-Set/OTH-HEATSINK-AXIII
So you installed it leaving the memory chips uncovered? 😨
Yeah, first was a stock install using the backplate only as per the Arctic Xtreme IV original design, which provided 'OK' memory temps, reinstalled later adding additional heatsinks & larger backplate thermal pads. GDDR6 is flip-chip design & can be effectively cooled through the rear of the PCB, but both sides is obviously better.
@@Jo3yization I had an evoke model and infact when I added pads on the rear side, temps practically fell down. Btw the junction center of the memory chip is slightly on the front side. It is a detail, but I always got lower temps when payd lil more attention to the front side. Felt like that
Yep I agree,, I did do a reinstall & add frontside heatsinks & swap to full-size thermal pads to take better advantage of the backplate, the results are here: ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
This was my plan all along but I decided on the stock install & testing first since the Xtreme IV normally does *not* come with any additional heatsinks & relies on the backplate alone, just to see how it does full stock & the difference those smaller direct heatsinks can make.
After watching the results
Not worth the money or the hassle to be honest
Invest in better case cooling
Its due to the amount of stock thermal paste & lack of surface area using thermal strips for the rear backplate, check this vid for temps after re-mounting with full size thermal pads.
ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
I havent seen any stock cooler perform even close to this.
Hey bro, I want to knwo if I coudl use this on RX 590 Fatboy or the AX3, would the VRAM make contact on the RX Fatboy? LInk to LTT with photos linustechtips.com/topic/1337546-xfx-rx-590-fatboy-oc-awful-cooler-is-there-anything-i-can-do/
Yo,, With either Arctic cooler, you'd want to cool the VRAM with direct memory heatsinks like the ones in the Xtreme III packaging (cheap on ebay just look up memory heatsinks), though you might have to offset them a little if the VRAM is too close to the GPU die for cooler clearance for the mounting plate as I had to do when adding them to the RX 5700 in this video: ua-cam.com/video/wqJtUkwkM9s/v-deo.html
A pack of these would do the job: www.ebay.ph/itm/184801672254 though a bit pricier, aluminum are cheaper and a little less efficient but should be fine too.
@@Jo3yization Thanks a lot!
@@Jo3yization would 0.5 x 0.5 x 0.25 inch hetasink be ok? I am still worried the mounting would touch the VRAM modules though, wouldn't that put heat from the core? You can see photo on LTT forum
Even if it does cover some of them, the GDDR5 doesnt get very hot to begin with so there shouldnt be any issues with thermal load as the heatsink itself should be more than capable of keeping the core temps down,,, you could use a thin thermal pad to make sure the GDDR5 chip that does get covered has decent thermal transfer though & still fit a half-mounted memory heatsink, even without any heatsink GDDR5 never got nearly as hot as GDDR6 and should still benefit from the extra airflow & height clearance the xtreme IV cooler gives. This Arctic mount on a 580 might give you a good idea: www.reddit.com/r/Amd/comments/bnf5v7/changed_the_msi_armor_rx_580_fans_with_accelero/
@@Jo3yization aren't the both the same thing, just the backplate heatsink?