A Not So Weird West Review
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- Опубліковано 19 кві 2022
- A Not So Weird West Review
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It hurts me that game developers KNOW that about 90% of people who play their game will never beat it, so if they have to skimp then they skimp on the endings. It makes sense, too. You frontload the fun so that the majority of people who play your game will come away feeling good about it, but it still hurts.
Yeah man i have 300 hours of dos2, never finished it once.
why buy a game if youre not gonna finish
@@jimmythecrow why start a drawing if you are not going to paint it? For the experience, the processes dont need to be finished for you to derive enjoyment from it. Like tinder hookups
@@jimmythecrow because you've had enough.
Reminds me of the Outer Worlds, have the opening hours be rather interesting with multiple choices that seemed to matter, then just sort of give up towards the middle and endpoint.
Got hooked by the game for a couple hours until I went into 2 identical mine one after the other with only different enemy type. Then another one. And another one. Repeating this much assets this early on didn't get me excited at all. Good thing it is on the game pass
Reminds me why I tapped out of Dragon Age 2. It was just terrible...
The intro was everything! But yeah, I was afraid weird west would turn out something like what you went over, it’s a shame it lacked on the rpg side.
Anyway, Great video mate!
I don't think they ever marketted it as a RPG though.
It's supposed to be a top-down immersive sim.
This reminds me when PREY came out and people were disapointed because it was lacking as a FPS when it was never designed as one.
@@arenkai Immersive sims are about freedom and ability to play the game in many ways - freedom is meaningless if your choices have minimal consequences.
@@Qladstone No ? Unless I'm misunderstanding what you're saying.
Thief 2 is an immersive sim, but in this game you don't have consequences for your actions other than gameplay.
Same goes for System Shock. And Deus Ex only has choices for story outcomes in the very last level.
Immersive Sims are about giving the player choice in how they want to tackle obstacles, sure, but it's more about the level of interaction the player has on the environment. What they can use at their advantage in those environment given the knowledge they have.
If that's reminiscent of a lot of games coming out nowadays, that's because most big games now implement immersive sim aspects to their game to create systemic worlds that react to the player in satisfying ways.
In short: give tools to the player, let them have fun with them in a systemic world with a decent level of gameplay choice
I had a discussion recently with one of the founders of Arkane Studios, and he brang to my attention that Breath of the Wild has more in common with Immersive Sims than it has with other Zelda Games.
I liked it for about 15 hours, then I got so damn tired of seeing the same desert and caves over and over
Same thing got to me
The atmosphere, the music, the combat was all great about
the game, everything else I felt needed more budget to be on the same level as the good, positive things about it. I finished it after 50 hours, and despite the negatives, I really enjoyed the game. And I instantly started playing Hard West, and other not perfect but fun game. I really enjoy these smaller indie games, sometimes much more tham those big 3A games out there. These little games reminds me of the games of my childhood, the good ones. :)
Ps.: Colantonio left Arhane as he felt burnt out creatively, and wanted to do something different, something that Arkans/Bethesda may not have allowed him to do if he stayed there.
Your videos fill a void in my soul, keep the great work up
I like the evolution of you appearing in your videos. It adds a bit to the video imo. Keep up the good work man!
Graphics and perspective (in the sense of FPS, 3rd person...) are important, sure, but in the end, only secondary. Yes, me likes shiny graphics, they can help to create an immersive setting (Green Hell comes to mind), but then again, I am generation C64 and I was totally immersed in games with graphics far more primitive than what I can play on some smartwatches today.
What kills this game for me is the lack of consequences or of _shown_ consequences. I can totally dive into games with the typical alibi story if this skeleton of a story provides a decent background for whatever I do. Anyone here who actually played 'Alien Rage'? Not exactly deep writing, but it works _and_ it gives me a reason to chisel through those alien hordes with a grim face and an immense amound of fun and satisfaction.
For me, the question how a story _ends_ and how much a game gives me the feeling, what I have done as that character I have played as was sensible and meaningful, is just as important as game mechanics and gameplay and definitely much more important than graphics. Anyone here plays 'Caves of Qud'? _That_ is what I am talking about... A game that just tells me in the end, yeah, you did stuff, nice, is not worth my time and money in my book.
Huh, "what you did" vs "what resulted" is such a small change that makes a massive improvement. Even if it's only the tiniest next step along the chain. Spared/saved X is boring, I know what I did, thanks for telling me. X set up/did Y gives the same base information, but by adding a bit more story/context makes it much more interesting.
I'm not a fan of how many cuts you used this time. Still enjoy your videos, just thought I'd voice an opinion, people may now commence my stoning.
Weird West has a lot of shared DNA with The Outer Worlds. New game from a set of creators with a serious pedigree that I want to root for because they are escapees from the Bethesda Dungeons. Ultimately, what they end up creating is technically good but ends up scarce on content and, because of that, scarce on opportunities for the sort of writing and impactful RPG branching storytelling that made me so fond of their previous work.
With both games, I don't really like them but I want them to succeed because a sequel that reuses the existing engine and is able to focus on making lots of content would likely be one of my favorite games.
As for specific criticism of Weird West, I think the combat fell into a similar gamplay trap as Dishonored; they have a set of abilities that are conceptually cool but are buzzkilled by an antagonistic mana meter and are implemented with a control scheme that makes them a jarring interruption to the otherwise sublime combat.
Except outer worlds didnt have an actual pedigree, the real obsidion was gone by the time the game started development
Avelone was making wasteland 3 at the time ffs
Good point.
Whoever edited this particular video DEFINITELY has ADHD
Those first few minutes were particularly painful to watch. I was so close to closing the video
Feels like Seth McFarlane’s adhd addled nephew edited this with all the cutaways.
Starting Weird West really made me want to play Mechajammer. It's also a strange hodgepodge of genres with a very unique art style. You should check it out, it's very weird.
Love your stuff Edgy, keep up the good work ^_^
I played the Beta for this game and they gave me a free retail copy as well and... man I couldn't even get two hours in. It's well made but it controls awkwardly as hell.
That tree is from cherry hill, or park heights or something
Hey could you make a video about the Province Cyrodiil mod for Morrowind? It would be helpful to attract more people to work on the project if you make a showcase and link their Discord in the description. We would use some help from the community. Thank you!
you look much better. I hope everything is good with you man.
I just started playing this game. Looking forward to your thoughts on it.
What's that insane force feedback video in the begining ? Can some one link it ?
Lasted 17 hours myself before the repetition got to me. Still, I don't regret my purchase, I'd like to see more (and better) from Wolfeye in future.
WTH IS HAPPENING AT 4:16!?!?!
New editor?
Happy 420 warrior
Have you tried fallout inspired atom rpg?
-Will it be a good day?
-Did Strat upload?
-Yes
-Then yes
This game reminded me of another game ive played, at least conceptually, but i cant remember what it was. Gonna go look that up - would you look at that, the game was called Hard West! Lmfao
Enjoy your content man! Surprised you dont have more subs, like 500k to a Mil
Ah my favorite guy at it again
Fantastic! I give it an absolute must try on gamepass. What a bargain.
Great. Now if you could see your way to review Tunic, I believe you may get the reward you seek. Also on gamepass...🧐
How are you not at a million yet
Oh hello Bald Man, prepare for pain
usally think the cut away to different media is overplayed, but this accatlly made me laugh with the paulie
What's this boomer meme-spam in the first two minutes? A subversive meta-joke of some kind? I mean, it was pretty funny in this context. The rest of the video was pretty good and told me all I needed to know.
Hehe yeah boi, been waiting for this one
I love i-sims, love isometric games, love the western/occult mix, but for some reason I just bounced off this. It just doesn't hold my attention at all despite me liking it. The controls on console are kinda bad too. I cant figure out why I dont love it.
a playful, but welcomed change of content, northenlion
Great video bromigo
The over use of meme/cuts at the start felt sloppy and cheap, and just out of place.
Other than that good video
Personally, I really liked it, but def see that it could have improvements. I also adore Dishonored series, so that mightve pushed to like even more. I really their next game fixes stuff this one had on the bad side and they could make classics
I like all good games that are made with love. I no longer care about outside hype or have any expectations when going into games. I can pick up any genre (besides sport) of game pandered to a mature audience, and just enjoy it for what it is...A GAME. I'm not talking out of my ass when I say this, but I have the best mindset a game developer could ask for.
You would probably also like Hard West - I certainly did
How did you know I just started watching the sopranos?
I reeeeeally wanted to like this game. I put some time in and felt it was OK, but lacking in some polish.
The game was waaaaay too difficult…until I learned about 5 hours in they you can bullet time.
What's up with the editing?
Brain damage!?!?! Id buy that for a dollar!!!!
Leaving a comment because that's what papa UA-cam wants
Yes! I've been so excited for this game!
Games are a weird product, value wise. Hundreds of thousands of hours go into making a decent game,
For many people, minimum wage is about 12 bucks or some shit. So a game that provides 25 hours of game play at 40 bucks, is a steal. Because it takes about 5 hours of your life and effort to afford it, and it gives you 5 times that in enjoyment.
But it *takes* hundreds of thousands of hours to _make_ the game. Which you'd think would mean that the game is being sold for less than what it's worth, and it should cost more. But it doesn't because economics,
And because we pay for it... and less. But, and then because pirates, remember pirates? So... thats a thing and does anyone else smell toast? I lost my train of thought and now I smell breakfast
I hear what you're saying but video games make a ton of money, especially these small studios that fork over a small amount of money to some advertisers that get their game a ton of coverage which makes the game relevant and in turn makes streamers want to play it.
It just happened with "Death Trash" recently. The game has about a 7 hour story plus an extra hour of optional content and that's gonna cost you 20 dollars. The game isn't abandoned but developer hasn't said a word about adding anything for months and it wouldn't surprise me if they don't because "who cares, we already made our money and our game isn't relevant anymore". The game was advertised saying this is only a small portion and we will be adding more to the story soon, we'll It's been since August, so wtf? It's frustrating because I'm becoming less willing to purchase these games that are in early access or developed by small studios and I notice that I'm not the only one. It sucks cause some of these games are reliant on people like me in order to get out there in the market but I'm sick of getting burnt
The game industry now makes much more money than the movie industry. While I don't mind supporting smaller AA studios (such as the studio that made this game) and indie studios... games should not cost more. AAA game's make enough money to award their CEOs two million dollar a year salaries and hundreds of millions of dollars in stock options, and yet you got people online defending these game corporations when they raise the price of games to 70 dollars.
@@alexoelkers2292 it's probably fair to say, much more work goes into making games these days than it did in 1996, but games are such a constantly evolving medium that I don't see the price of a AAA game ever doing anything but going up. Imagine how much a game that could accurately be called the first SAO would cost. At this rate, I would bet probably 80 bucks. And with the rate of games prices increasing, I'd say thats about 15 to 20 years off
@@alexanderrahl7034 The heads of AAA game developers have a multi-billion dollar net worth.... they are some of highest paid CEOs in the entire world. The price absolutely does not have to go up to be profitable with development costs and inflation. The amount of effort put into games compared to years ago is also very debatable as games used to be made from scratch, today every AAA developer uses either a established game engine or a inhouse game engine. There is a reason a new Assassin's Creed can be released every year.
@@alexoelkers2292 net worth isn't liquid wealth.
And the work that goes into modeling something is much higher now due to poly count.
As for "from scratch", well certainly many smaller devs did this. But once a developer had an engine they'd made, they usually tried to use that before creating a whole new one.
I played for an hour or two and gave up. On paper I should love this game, but nothing got me interested. I'll try again later, maybe I wasn't in the right mood.
You should review dragons dogma
I really wanted a deep crpg set in a Deadlands-esqe Wild West with fun combat, great dialogue and a deep story. Seems like this isn't for me. That sucks.
People will complain about 40$ for 40h of contents and then buy fifa.
I love your content
It's on GamePass
Them some nice head phones.
Love you and miss you too deeeth.
Idk im for sure gonna play around with being a psycho killer
"Older Arkane title" Dark Messiah was fun , wasn't it?
The dark messiah kick should be included in every first person game
Great vid
Wasteland the arcade game
Eh? That's exactly like a real shotgun; just the ranges are probably wildly shorter than a real one.
Here's Garand Thumb to prove my point: /watch?v=DnAi2R3Iv8Y
Uhhh, relatively graphic if exploding gel and food coloring makes you upsetti spaghetti.
Oh and just FYI I will probably buy this specifically because of your review. So if any of these fuckers get in your face, throw that at them. You sold me on this and Solasta.
Baltimore definitely.
30 is def the best price
I find it funny that Strat didn't say once that this was a western, such an underappreciated genre
I got bored after pigman and gave up the game at the 5th campaign
Nice
What the hesll is an msim game? (*Googles...)
An immersive sim is a game that creates emergent gameplay through systems interacting in ways far beyond just what the devs intended but the systems themselves working as intended
An example in divinity original sin would be barrelmancy
In dishonored its using the posession skill to avoid fall damage or using grenades as noisemakers instead of weapons
If it was in first person, or over the shoulder tps id buy it. But I hate this style of game, twin stick 3rd person. Cant stand it, what a fucking shame too because I love the concept.
Im gonna be honest, I had to stop watching the video due to the constant memes
Yeah, ngl I fucking hated that
How to know that person does not know definition of "immersion"? He thinks that it means "no hud".
There is no universal value for immersion, it is purely individual preference. For one it is no hud, for me it is all the indicators that could possibly be on the hud. More i can objectively observe, more immersed i generally am.
I do find it funny how idiots like to say "you dont have hud in real life". Well, shit, in real life i have all 5 senses(sight, smell, touch, taste and hearing), in game, without hud, you have just two. This is where hud comes into play, to somewhat compensate. Saying "no hud is just like real life" is as idiotic as claiming that CIPA is normal.
This is as much designed as a RPG as PREY was designed as a FPS.
Make of that what you will.
Yes
That's the point
Theyre imsims with light elements of the genre they dteal from
Ah, Weird West. The sequel to the famous "let's name the game after an entire genre" series which famously also includes Cyberpunk 2077.
Thing is, Cyberpunk 2077 was a video game spinoff of a tabletop RPG series.
@@FlawedIntellecta tabletop rpg series that named the genre
While cyberpunk as a genre predates the ttrpg as a term it doesnt
Who’s the streamer playing in the corner?
I take it someone is watching the sopranos rn, Keep at it the show is great!
Don't watch clips of it on UA-cam though...so many spoilers in the comments
zybak??
Wayyy to many cutaways in this. Rather would focus on your essay. Thanks
P
Gonna buy this game at a lower price.
On the same note, this type of game can really hit the nail, another installment, where they can work on the good and take out the bad.
it's on gamepass. I think you can get like 3 months for 5$
@@mix1ro Thanks for the heads up, I do not have bamepass, I like all my PC games to be on Steam.
@@bogdan19992given arkane made 3 messes of cun ass games before dishonored
This guy always refines his concepts
Please stop adding random clips so often it makes it extremely grating to listen.
Too many comedy jump cuts, man. Like 10 within the first 2 minutes.
Too much memes, man
impossible to watch really.
Stop watching Tik toks cringe
Actually soulless meme inclusion I hate it
If a game has a "morality system" it does not have a morality system.
Disco Elysium is a defacto example of how to do "Morality" and reputation.
Have people treat you and react to you realistically based on their own ideals, standings, opinions, beliefs and if they really care or don't care as long as you're doing what they ask, no gauge, no meter. Based on realistic expectations, reputation and interpersonal links. If I'm the worst pile of garbage this side of California and go to Florida of course I got a clean slate and nobody is going to be murmering about me unless I made the coast to coast news.
Just because you disagree with a developers choice of morality doesn't mean they didn't implement a morality system in their game.
@@Serahpin
just because they call it a morality system, does not make it a morality system.
It's Russian propaganda
Divinity 2 was garbage.
This lazy "motion comics" style of cutscene is getting really old. Zero effort. Kinda like the humor in your videos.
Kind of like your mom.
@@StratEdgyProductions Still not funny.
jesus christ man, can you not use tiktok style meme clips every 10 seconds of the video? I like what you're saying but its broken up by barely relevant clips too frequently.
... That's been his style for several years.